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As you know, on the Antiques Roadshow,

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we're not only on the lookout for lovely and interesting objects,

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but also for lovely and interesting places in which to find them.

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So my hopes ran high when I was told that we were coming to a place

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that was once described as the Paris of the North.

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It has to be said that, on the face of it,

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the jolly seaside town of Southport in Lancashire doesn't immediately

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bring the French capital to mind, but the evidence for this extravagant claim

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lies away from the sea front in a tree-lined boulevard called Lord Street.

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In the 19th century,

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Southport was a fashionable resort,

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so much so that in 1838 the exiled Prince Louis Napoleon of France -

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Napoleon's young nephew - came to spend a season here.

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Louis and his chums did all the seaside things -

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hunting and shooting - but legend has it

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that he was so impressed by the elegance of Lord Street

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that, when he finally got home and became emperor,

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he had Paris rebuilt in its image, albeit on a slightly grander scale.

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At least, that's how the story goes.

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For another 100 years, Southport attracted a discerning clientele,

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who came here to enjoy evenings at the theatre,

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fun-filled days in the open-air pool,

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and romantic nights at the grand dance hall.

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Except that it didn't HAVE a grand dance hall.

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It wasn't until 1932

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that the Paris of the North had its own palais de danse.

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It was an immediate success with everyone

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and the weekly tea dances were chock-a-block and cheek-to-cheek

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throughout the year.

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The exterior of the Floral Hall

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doesn't give much of a hint of the beauty that lies within,

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but that makes it even more of a pleasant surprise.

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In its time, the Floral Hall has hosted just about every kind of crowd-pulling event.

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Today it's the Roadshow.

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We're delighted to be here

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and to see that Southport has turned out to join us.

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I'll go and hand over to the experts and organise the tea dance.

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Now, when I arrived at Southport station last night,

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I did not see this clock.

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-No!

-Is that because YOU have it, rather than the station?

-Yes.

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-So why have you got it?

-My dad was station supervisor at Southport

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in the '60s and early '70s,

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and when they pulled the old station down,

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several of the items were sold off,

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-and he bought that clock at that time.

-So he knew it, he'd worked with it.

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-Yes.

-Right, what we've got here

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is a wonderfully documented station clock.

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It tells us the whole history of Southport station.

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Go back to the 1870s.

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There we have a company called the WLR -

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the West Lancashire Railway - which developed a line

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eastwards from Southport.

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They were the first owners of the clock.

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Looking at the face, we've then got WLR again.

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They were then taken over by LYR,

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which is the Lancashire Yorkshire Railway,

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and they in turn became,

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in 1923, part of LMS. And, although it's not marked,

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in due course, that became British Rail. So it's gone through

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all those owners. And I love the fact that, in the 1960s,

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there it still was, ticking away.

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And you have it at home?

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-I do, yes.

-And it's working?

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It was, but it doesn't work at the moment.

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It would certainly be worth restoring. This is very collectable.

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Railway clocks are anyway. It's not a special clock. It's fairly standard.

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Railway clocks are very desirable, particularly if they come from small, minor companies.

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The West Lancashire didn't have a long life, it was soon absorbed, and anything to do with that

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has great local interest. If this was not a railway clock,

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you're looking at £300, £400, £500.

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Because it's a railway clock with that history,

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-we're looking at £1,500.

-Really? As much as that?

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As much as that. So mend it. Get it ticking.

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Right. I will do.

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What's wrong with that?

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I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

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-There is.

-I love it.

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You may love it, but it doesn't exist.

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-How do you mean?

-You've got a tiger attacking a lion.

-Right.

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-Never happens.

-Ah, well.

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-Different continents.

-Well, I never realised that.

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The only time those two came together to fight

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-was in the Roman amphitheatre.

-Good heavens.

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But the extraordinary thing is

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that these Japanese groups - we see them endlessly

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with tigers attacking lions,

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BUT...for the western market.

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-Ah.

-And the western market said,

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"We want a fight between a lion and a tiger,"

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and the Japanese said, "Fine, no problem."

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This one - we've got a couple of tigers attacking a rhino.

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This I don't think I've ever seen.

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-It's a really brilliant bit of sculpture. Do you like it too?

-I love it to bits.

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-I've known it all my life.

-Where did it come from?

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Um, my grandfather, I believe,

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acquired it 75-80 years ago

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from a captain of a Sikh regiment.

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My grandfather was working at a hotel in London

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and I believe they were gifted to him after he looked after him for a while.

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I wonder why he had got Japanese things.

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I don't know.

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It's a bit of the story I don't have, unfortunately.

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It sounds slightly wobbly, the story.

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-You know what family stories are like.

-Exactly.

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Um, this one is made

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in two sections,

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so you can detach one tiger.

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And we've got a nice mark

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on this one.

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It's heavy!

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-It is.

-Incredibly heavy.

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I'll have to lay it down, I think. It says,

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"Dai Nippon" which means "great Japan"...

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-HE READS OUT THE JAPANESE MARK

-Dates from around...

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1880, 1900. And while we've got it upside down,

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just look at the detail on those paws.

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Fantastic. Um, well...

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I love them, you love them.

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The market for Japanese things at the moment

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-is not good.

-Mm-hmm.

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But these transcend that, really,

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because they are decorative, good-quality objects.

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This one, I think would make in the region of £2,000-£3,000.

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Wow!

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And that one, I think would probably make £4,000-£5,000.

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That's fantastic. I'd no idea.

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So are these beguiling pair of Regency beauties

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anything to do with your family?

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Well, the two girls the daughters of William Hazelwood,

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who was Lord Nelson's solicitor.

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The girl on the left

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is Horatia.

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-Named after Horatio?

-That's right. Named after Lord Nelson.

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He WAS going to be her godfather but, unfortunately,

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-he never made it home.

-Fate intervened.

-That's right.

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Horatia then married my great-great-great-great-grandfather

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and married into our family.

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I inherited that picture about 15 years ago.

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-So this really is an ancestral portrait.

-Definitely, yes.

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I don't think I can see a family resemblance.

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No, hopefully not!

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I must say, I was absolutely delighted to see this

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because it's not often on the show

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that we get really high-quality miniatures.

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I can't tell you who it's by,

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despite the fact that, on the back, it says confidently

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that it's by an artist called Stephanoff,

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-who actually didn't do miniature, boringly.

-Right.

-So it's not by him.

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But, with a bit of work, we might find out. But, in a sense,

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it doesn't matter, because it's a charming story -

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the would-be goddaughter of the great Horatio Nelson,

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-called Horatia...

-That's right.

-..and her sister.

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What I also really love about the picture is the detail,

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the charm as expressed in the ringlets and the curls

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and the dresses.

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Have you thought about

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-what it might be worth?

-I was quoted

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about £200

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about five or six years ago, but nothing since then.

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Even without an artist,

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a pair like this, of beauties,

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because beauties actually do do rather well,

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with so fabulously delineated dresses,

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although they are slightly faded,

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are just the sort of thing that collectors want,

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so I would confidently say that this was worth £2,000-£3,000.

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-Very good. That's excellent.

-But it will remain your ancestral portrait?

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-I don't think I'll sell it.

-Good.

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It's often very difficult

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to date African objects but conveniently, here,

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-we've got a date of 1919.

-Oh, yes.

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So what was going on with your family in Africa in 1919?

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Well, it was my husband's father

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and his wife were part of a Baptist missionary society delegation

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who went out to Africa to visit the missionaries

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-in Belgian Congo.

-So it was in the Belgian Congo?

-Yes.

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-Which of these...?

-That was my husband...

-Right.

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..and that was his sister,

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and that was his mother, Florence.

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They both went to Africa in 1919.

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So this is the couple that collected these pieces?

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-Yes.

-I see. And your husband then went back again...?

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Yes, then he trained as a minister and as a teacher,

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-and he went as a missionary in 1928.

-Right.

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In the Congo. Now, this is a place, really,

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absolutely in the middle of Africa. It's about as central as you can get.

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It took him a month and you had to go by paddle steamer, I think.

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Most people, when they come back from a trip, bring back a small souvenir

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or a sombrero or whatever it might be, but these aren't exactly light.

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I expect, in those days, it was the idea to bring back,

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and you probably put them all in a crate.

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-Coming by sea, it's not like air travel.

-No, quite.

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I wonder whether he'd be allowed to take this on board now!

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-And did he ever show you how to play this?

-Er, I don't know.

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I just always used to, you know... TWANGING

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It's sort of done like that.

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It's not going to win many musical awards, this particular one, is it?

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But I'm sure that, if you were skilful,

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-you'd be able to play it beautifully.

-Yes.

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I'll put that down for a moment.

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This piece is most extraordinary.

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-It's a drum...

-Yes.

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-Do you know what these are made of?

-I think they're made of

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the resin from the tree which I believe originally would have been white.

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-I see. Right.

-But over the years... I mean, it's what...

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-87 years.

-Nearly 100 years ago. Exactly.

-It's the year I was born.

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-And, um, it's hollowed out.

-Yes. And the two sides

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are different so that you get two different tones.

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And they call one the high

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and the other the low,

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or else the male and the female, the male being the dominant.

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-Well, quite.

-Yes.

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They had, I believe, a huge village drum

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and they had a chap who sat there and drummed messages.

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-Said that the Reverend So-and-so was on his way.

-That the missionaries were coming up

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or visitors were coming.

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And then this was a horn, of course,

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-which takes a lot of blowing, I can tell you.

-It does.

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It's a fantastic thing.

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-This is a single tusk.

-Yes.

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And we know, obviously from the date your father-in-law brought it back,

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-that this must pre-date 1919, anyway.

-Yes, it must.

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And I think the colour on it

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is actually not just, um...

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-from handling. I think they do stain them.

-Oh, do they?

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So there is a range of tones.

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I'm going to just see, because this...

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-Do you think I should try and blow this?

-Yes!

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-How do you do it, then?

-You just blow in there, I think.

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BELLOW

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SHE LAUGHS

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Rather you than me!

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It's quite a noise that, isn't it?

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So there we are.

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It's very difficult to know how to value some of these things

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because they're of great sentimental value to you, and lovely family connections.

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These sorts of things do turn up at auction.

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They're... You know, they're not that rare, actually,

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but, none the less, I think, you know,

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-an example like this one will be worth perhaps £100-£150.

-Yes. Yes.

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I think the drum is terrific,

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particularly as it's intact with these pieces as well,

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-so perhaps that's going to be £500 or £600.

-Is it? Yes.

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But I do think the horn is a wonderful tactile object as well,

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and, you know, perhaps it's worth at least £1,000.

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-It may be more, even.

-Yes.

-As I say, it's not something we see an awful lot of,

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but it's a treat to see it. I must say, I've never blown a horn like that before.

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-These are, without doubt, the most comfortable barber's chairs I've ever sat in.

-Yes.

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I love them, but why did you get them?

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My husband and I had a hairdressing barbers' salon in Formby

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and we found them in an old salon-supplies company.

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They were in an old warehouse

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-and they're from Horne Brothers, where the Beatles first got their mop tops done.

-The famous barbers?

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-Yes.

-You can trace, by direct purchase and sale,

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-back to that salon.

-We can.

-So we know these are actually the chairs the Beatles sat on.

-Definitely.

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What other proof have you got?

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We've got photographs of the Beatles sitting in the actual chairs in Horne Brothers in 1963.

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So we've got here...

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There's Paul sitting down,

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having his hair cut by John, and George and Ringo looking alongside.

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-Yes.

-So we've got the purchase and sale orders,

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-and we've got the photograph.

-We have. We have.

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Well, that's pretty good provenance.

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Now let's look at the chairs themselves.

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These were probably made, what, in America?

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Yes, Chicago, I believe.

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In the early '60s, and would've been brought over here.

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Presumably they do,

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-although they might not work today, you could go up and down.

-Backwards and forwards.

-Adjust the footrest.

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-Yes.

-And presumably here they had the little basins...

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-Yes, for all the shaving stuff.

-Or having your fingers manicured.

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I mean, they're great chairs. Um...

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I think, you know, they are quite trendy today,

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and people do like to put them into loft apartments.

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As chairs, they're worth maybe £1,000.

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But I think, with the Beatle connection,

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you're talking about £10,000 each,

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and, if you found a lock of hair down the back,

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-you could add an extra £1,000 each.

-£10,000 each? Not for the pair?

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Great pieces.

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-Great provenance. Thanks so much for bringing them in.

-Thank you.

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I sometimes get very jealous of my colleagues on jewellery and ceramics

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because they can get intimate with some of their objects.

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But when I see something as grand as this, I don't mind.

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This is something that's come out of a great big house,

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you're there, you look very natural with this piece. Have you lived with it for a long time?

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We've had it, uh, 30-odd years.

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It was, um, given to me

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by a splendid old aunt and uncle

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who lived in Merevale in Warwickshire,

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to where, as children, we were evacuated during the war.

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So I've known it since I was... could walk underneath.

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-Right!

-And it's got lovely memories. It was in the dining room.

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And there weren't many sweets in the war but when there WERE some,

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-they were kept on the shelf in this cupboard.

-Oh, wonderful!

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And I can open it cos it's just got a catch there.

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-So, how did it come to you?

-Well,

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My aunt and uncle moved from Merevale House

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to a smaller one

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and rang up to see if we'd like it.

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I was at work.

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You tell them...!

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The aunt asked if we'd like it. I thought, "It's far too big."

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So I said, "No, thank you, we don't want it."

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When John came home from work I told him what had happened and it nearly caused a divorce!

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So he rang up straight away and said he would like it.

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-Thank goodness for that!

-Absolutely.

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-So do you have a large dining room?

-Yes.

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Excellent. Because what people don't often realise

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is there wasn't really such a thing as a dining room,

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even in a grand English house, until the second half of the 18th century.

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And it was really Robert Adam designing for great houses

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like Kedleston and Osterley.

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But, fascinatingly enough, he designed sideboard tables

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with separate pedestals.

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But what happens a little bit later on,

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particularly in the early 19th century,

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which is when this piece dates from,

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is that the pedestals and the table come together, they join together.

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So you get this extraordinarily grand, rather opulent...

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rather masculine piece of furniture.

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And the design of this sort is very much associated

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with one of the taste-makers of the early 19th century, Thomas Hope.

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The brass railings acted as a background

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to the display of the family plate,

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large chargers, that would have really displayed who you were,

0:18:100:18:14

how grand you were.

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This is mahogany banded in this ebonised wood.

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It's very strong, very bold.

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And, of course, the pedestals

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were to have plate drawers

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and cellarettes, quite often.

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And so sometimes they're lined or foiled with lead.

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And... Oh, right, this is...

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-They both are.

-Oh!

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This is not just lined with lead - this pretty well IS lead!

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It's really, really heavy.

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And what's fantastic, and you so rarely see,

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is that inside you've got the little plug.

0:18:510:18:56

I can't get it out.

0:18:560:18:58

No, that one's soldered in. I think at some time it must have leaked.

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So, originally it would have been drained... It would have held water

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for rinsing glasses, for cooling wine.

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And you would then take out the drawer and drain it from there.

0:19:090:19:13

That is absolutely wonderful. That is superb.

0:19:130:19:16

It really is heavy, isn't it?

0:19:160:19:19

Well, I think this is a stupendous piece of furniture.

0:19:190:19:22

Absolutely...original.

0:19:220:19:25

It's got little tiny bits of really not very significant damage on it.

0:19:250:19:31

I think if you were having to replace this,

0:19:310:19:35

you'd be looking in a grand dealer's, at least £10,000.

0:19:350:19:40

There's one little piece of information. I don't know whether you know.

0:19:400:19:45

-I don't even know if I should go into this...

-The more I find out about it, the better.

0:19:450:19:50

-Well, you know that the British had this curious idea that women leave the dining room...

-Yes.

0:19:500:19:56

..after the meal and go off and have tea or whatever?

0:19:560:19:59

The gentlemen stayed with their port, telling stories.

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Well, in order to... not have to leave the room

0:20:020:20:07

to relieve themselves, to go off to the closet somewhere,

0:20:070:20:11

they would often...

0:20:110:20:13

have a pot in the pedestal.

0:20:130:20:17

-Yes.

-And would - discreetly, I hope - get up from the table

0:20:170:20:22

-and piddle in the pot!

-They could almost get underneath there!

0:20:220:20:26

So, not particularly savoury in the dining room

0:20:260:20:29

-but that is certainly what happened.

-We keep wine glasses in it!

0:20:290:20:33

Oh, this is really nice, this is lovely.

0:20:340:20:37

-A letter from John Betjeman.

-Yes.

-Dated...

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1963. So I guess he was already a fairly elderly gentleman.

0:20:400:20:45

So how in 1963 did John Betjeman come to be writing to you?

0:20:450:20:49

-I'm intrigued.

-I was still at school and I was trying quite hard to write myself,

0:20:490:20:55

and taking myself very seriously.

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And instead of writing

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-to footballers or pop stars, I was writing to writers.

-Fantastic.

0:21:010:21:06

So you sent a letter speculatively to John Betjeman?

0:21:060:21:10

Yes, I sent him some of my stuff and, lucky for me, he replied.

0:21:100:21:14

So he read your poems. Was he kind about them?

0:21:140:21:17

He was, yeah. Yeah. He was very kind!

0:21:170:21:21

"Dear Mr Whall," which is you, "my secretary kept back your poems for me to read

0:21:210:21:26

"and I'm very glad she did. You write about what you really see and feel,

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"and you are not literary and derivative. Both qualities are rare.

0:21:310:21:36

-"I wish you every success." That's really very nice, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:21:360:21:40

-He was very kind.

-He is being very kind.

0:21:400:21:43

-Fantastic. You must have felt really very encouraged.

-I was, yeah.

0:21:430:21:47

-As a young poet.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:21:470:21:50

What I like about this particularly is that he goes on.

0:21:500:21:53

He doesn't just say what he thinks about YOUR poems, he seems to be telling us -

0:21:530:21:57

telling YOU - what HE likes in HIS poems.

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Look at this. "Personally, I like

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"rhyme, rhythm and 'trad' poetry,

0:22:030:22:06

"but I don't think it's the only kind."

0:22:060:22:09

-I think that's beautiful because that really sums up what Betjeman is for so many people.

-Yes, yeah.

0:22:090:22:14

I can only imagine how you must have felt

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when the post came in the morning

0:22:170:22:19

and these envelopes were plopping through the door

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-and you knew - or hoped - something was going to come.

-I hoped.

0:22:220:22:26

So, say, this brown envelope comes through the post,

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postmarked 31st January, 1967...

0:22:300:22:32

Who's it going to be from? This is very nice, again.

0:22:320:22:35

This is Henry Williamson,

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who I suppose we think of most as a nature writer.

0:22:370:22:40

-He wrote Tarka The Otter.

-And Salar The Salmon.

-These are the things we know him best for.

0:22:400:22:45

And he says, "Thank you for sending me your poem.

0:22:450:22:49

"I could see at once that it is good."

0:22:490:22:52

He doesn't just say "good", he underlines "good".

0:22:520:22:54

-How did you feel when you read that?

-That was enough!

0:22:540:22:58

It's very hard to say whether these kind of things have a commercial value.

0:22:580:23:02

-Of course.

-Obviously, in terms of your development as a writer, they're absolutely immeasurable

0:23:020:23:09

-in value.

-I think so, yeah.

-Did you carry on writing?

0:23:090:23:11

Yes, I have done. I'm still trying!

0:23:110:23:14

Right, so you've got Betjeman,

0:23:140:23:17

you've got Blunden, you've got Williamson...

0:23:170:23:20

-This is RS Thomas.

-Mm.

0:23:200:23:23

It's a nice little group. I suppose one could put a value

0:23:230:23:27

of perhaps a couple of hundred pounds on them.

0:23:270:23:30

But, as I say, the value is so much more to you, as a writer.

0:23:300:23:34

I think it's the kind of thing I would like to pass on, I would like to leave to grandchildren and so on.

0:23:340:23:40

-I think that would be lovely, to keep them together.

-Yes.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:23:400:23:45

Your mother was clearly a multi-tasking lady.

0:23:470:23:50

Very much so, yes.

0:23:500:23:53

So which came first - the mechanics or the fashion?

0:23:530:23:56

Oh, the fashion. She went from school.

0:23:560:23:59

I don't know whether she did a fashion qualification somewhere,

0:23:590:24:03

but she then went to work for Gorringes in London

0:24:030:24:06

as a fashion designer.

0:24:060:24:08

And hence these wonderful designs.

0:24:080:24:10

Did she ever talk to you about it?

0:24:100:24:13

A little, but when you're a teenager,

0:24:130:24:16

unfortunately, you're not all that interested.

0:24:160:24:19

-She died when I was 25.

-Oh, no!

0:24:190:24:22

That's such a shame. The first one we've got here,

0:24:220:24:26

this is very appropriate for being here on the promenade because

0:24:260:24:30

that's a wonderful beach design.

0:24:300:24:33

I think it's come full swing

0:24:330:24:35

because some of the beachwear that we have today

0:24:350:24:40

-looks very like that.

-I remember her wearing something similar she made

0:24:400:24:44

-when I was a child.

-Amazing!

0:24:440:24:47

I don't quite understand this...

0:24:470:24:50

little signature here.

0:24:500:24:52

Well, she was called Doris Mould

0:24:520:24:55

but she signed all her artwork backwards - "Dluom Sirod".

0:24:550:25:01

-Dluom Sirod!

-Apparently, it was one of the things of the day. ..Sirod.

0:25:010:25:05

-So, Mould came first and then...

-Doris Mould.

-Fascinating.

0:25:050:25:10

I didn't know that. I learn something every Roadshow.

0:25:100:25:13

I'm going to just pick that one

0:25:130:25:15

because of the, if you like, the tartan effect.

0:25:150:25:19

I've got a dress with that tartan

0:25:190:25:22

-so it's still very much in vogue.

-Yes.

0:25:220:25:25

I see here.. We don't advertise on TV but...

0:25:250:25:30

um, look at this!

0:25:300:25:32

-The original Liberty print.

-Yes.

0:25:320:25:35

For the most wonderful dress.

0:25:350:25:37

That could be Princess Diana's dress, couldn't it?

0:25:370:25:40

Then we come on to another one,

0:25:400:25:42

and this is a silk, which is absolutely stunning.

0:25:420:25:46

She's very good, the way she shows off these tiny waists and...

0:25:460:25:49

The faces aren't great but who cares when you've got a great body!

0:25:510:25:55

This is one of my favourites.

0:25:570:25:59

This is crepe georgette, which is absolutely stunning.

0:25:590:26:03

And it shows, in fact,

0:26:030:26:06

a man with what looks like either a lion or a poodle,

0:26:060:26:10

I'm not quite sure!

0:26:100:26:11

I've never looked at that properly.

0:26:110:26:13

People who make new fabrics

0:26:130:26:16

would give their eye teeth for these early pieces.

0:26:160:26:20

-Samples.

-They can make different colours out of them and patterns

0:26:200:26:24

-for today's fashion. So where do the mechanics come in?

-Ah...

0:26:240:26:29

1941, I think it was, she joined the FANYs, the Female Army Nursing Yeomanry.

0:26:290:26:36

And I think she was fairly quickly seconded into the ATS.

0:26:360:26:40

Um, and the Army decided to - as Mother put it -

0:26:400:26:44

find out whether women were capable of doing mechanics!

0:26:440:26:49

And she and three or four or five others were sent.

0:26:490:26:52

And she told of lying under an Army lorry with three pairs of boots sticking out.

0:26:520:26:57

And it was the first time she'd heard some very awful swearing.

0:26:570:27:01

And she's rolled out from under the lorry, "Excuse me, sir, but what does that mean?"

0:27:010:27:06

-At which point five men went purple.

-Oh, how wonderful!

0:27:060:27:10

-She had a great sense of humour.

-She had to, I should think.

-Yes.

0:27:100:27:14

That was my mother,

0:27:140:27:17

I think when she joined the FANYs,

0:27:170:27:18

when she left Gorringes.

0:27:180:27:21

And that's at our wedding in 1969, a little bit later,

0:27:210:27:24

-but it shows you how elegant she was.

-Yes, absolutely.

0:27:240:27:28

So what are you going to do with them?

0:27:280:27:32

Well, the family will keep some, we will frame some and keep them.

0:27:320:27:36

But I've nearly 50, so I don't know whether some of them should be in a museum

0:27:360:27:41

or whether to sell some of them or what. I mean...

0:27:410:27:44

If you put them into auction, I don't think they'd make a huge amount of money.

0:27:440:27:48

The name is not well-known enough.

0:27:480:27:51

-No.

-If you were lucky, you'd get, say, £50 - £100 each.

0:27:510:27:55

But having said that, she's such an interesting woman

0:27:550:27:59

and you've got all these family. And in a way...

0:27:590:28:03

-We might keep them, I think.

-Because it's very unusual to have a mechanic who's a woman

0:28:030:28:08

-AND an artistic fashion designer.

-Yes.

-They don't normally go together.

-No!

0:28:080:28:14

You have a collection of post cards. You've brought this one in,

0:28:320:28:36

-it's interesting?

-Yes, it's a very special one, to do with the Titanic.

0:28:360:28:41

Anything to do with the Titanic is absolutely magical.

0:28:410:28:45

Yes. Well, we had a student living with us and his aunt had passed away,

0:28:450:28:50

who lived in Birkdale, which is about five minutes from here.

0:28:500:28:55

He asked could he store some of her furniture in a room we had.

0:28:550:28:59

There was a collection of postcards so they said, "Have whatever you wish."

0:28:590:29:04

-We chose the postcards and this one was in the collection.

-Wonderful.

0:29:040:29:09

Let me tell you about Titanic postcards, in general.

0:29:090:29:13

-If you have one that's photographic, they command quite a lot of money.

-Oh, right.

0:29:130:29:19

But if you have one that's printed, as this one is, they're not so important.

0:29:190:29:24

-Right.

-But...

0:29:240:29:27

this is the magic, and I'd better read it.

0:29:270:29:32

It says, "My dear Clara, we have heard good news.

0:29:320:29:37

"Aunty has not gone down with the Titanic.

0:29:370:29:40

"She has been listed in the paper 'saved'.

0:29:400:29:43

"We'll see you tomorrow. With best love. Alice."

0:29:430:29:48

Wonderful. Imagine the joy that this postcard must have generated!

0:29:480:29:53

-Oh, yes.

-And the postmark is the 19th April,

0:29:530:29:57

so this is five days...

0:29:570:30:00

-After, yes.

-..after the Titanic sank.

0:30:000:30:03

Wonderful little postcard.

0:30:030:30:05

-It's very special.

-So we come to values.

0:30:050:30:09

-Yes.

-Any idea?

0:30:090:30:11

-No, not really.

-Well...

0:30:110:30:14

one was sold, which was photographic, to an American on the telephone,

0:30:140:30:20

and it fetched £700.

0:30:200:30:23

Oh, gosh.

0:30:230:30:24

Now, yours isn't photographic as such, but it's the message on the back here

0:30:240:30:31

that makes it so important, and of course, your postcard is certainly worth more than £1,000.

0:30:310:30:37

Oh, gosh.

0:30:370:30:39

Thank you very much!

0:30:390:30:41

Would you describe yourself as a romantic?

0:30:420:30:45

-Yes, I would.

-Why?

0:30:450:30:47

Well, I think it runs in the family. My mother was very much the romantic.

0:30:470:30:52

The reason I ask is because I wonder how you would have felt

0:30:520:30:58

if somebody had given you...

0:30:580:31:01

that diamond heart.

0:31:010:31:03

Cos I think, as a gift, I think this is absolutely beautiful.

0:31:030:31:08

-Yes, I quite agree.

-It does, I have to say, bring out the romantic.

0:31:080:31:13

You can't get a more romantic shape than a heart.

0:31:130:31:17

Tell me a little bit about it.

0:31:170:31:20

Well, it belonged to my late mother.

0:31:200:31:22

She died around four years ago. She bought it privately.

0:31:220:31:26

-I don't know how much for.

-Do you know when she bought it?

-Probably about 18-20 years ago.

0:31:260:31:33

All right, we can see it's absolutely packed

0:31:330:31:38

with diamonds at the front.

0:31:380:31:41

The way that the diamonds are set is described as "pavee set".

0:31:410:31:46

And what the jeweller has done when he made this,

0:31:460:31:50

in the centre, he's placed a drop-shaped white diamond,

0:31:500:31:56

of great beauty and great purity.

0:31:560:31:59

That drop-shaped diamond in the centre is then contrasted with the surrounding diamonds,

0:31:590:32:05

which are known as "rose-cuts".

0:32:050:32:07

To reinforce the importance of the heart,

0:32:070:32:11

you've got diamonds in the pendant loop.

0:32:110:32:15

As beautiful as the front of this piece is, there's another feature about this piece, which, I must say,

0:32:150:32:21

I find really... I can connect with.

0:32:210:32:24

Because when you turn it over, you have a locket compartment.

0:32:240:32:27

-Did your mother use that compartment?

-No, she didn't.

0:32:270:32:32

Well, this is not glass.

0:32:320:32:35

This is rock crystal. That shows the pedigree of the piece.

0:32:350:32:39

Within, you've got the whole cage-work setting

0:32:390:32:43

of the diamonds at the back,

0:32:430:32:46

showing you just what a complex design the setter has used.

0:32:460:32:50

Like a lot of late 19th century pieces, it's mounted in gold and silver.

0:32:500:32:56

It wasn't until the 20th century that you started to see the development and use

0:32:560:33:01

of new methods, like platinum. So the date of this is round about the very end of the 19th century.

0:33:010:33:08

The other thing about it is, doesn't it look very nice in the box?

0:33:080:33:13

It's true to say that a fitted case for something

0:33:130:33:16

shows it off to its most beautiful effect.

0:33:160:33:19

Has a jeweller looked at it? Has it been valued ever?

0:33:190:33:23

When my mother died, the estate had it valued

0:33:230:33:27

and they valued it at between £1,200-£1,500.

0:33:270:33:31

-How long ago would that have been?

-About four years ago.

-So, £1,200-£1,500...

0:33:310:33:37

I think is too low, for all the reasons that I've given to you.

0:33:370:33:42

You've got this wonderful white diamond in the middle,

0:33:420:33:45

this packed out rose-cut diamond frame,

0:33:450:33:48

the condition of it, which is absolutely as if it had come off the jeweller's bench yesterday,

0:33:480:33:53

in the original fitted box, and...everyone loves hearts.

0:33:530:33:57

If you did something commercial around February 14th, imagine how many people would like this!

0:33:570:34:04

So I think I'm going to beat that price.

0:34:040:34:07

-I think this is worth at least £4,000-£5,000.

-Gosh. Good heavens!

0:34:070:34:13

So we have a photograph of a very impressive looking lady. Who is she?

0:34:150:34:20

Leonora Cohen. She was the mother-in-law of my godmother.

0:34:200:34:23

-Did you ever know her?

-No. I might have met her when I was very small.

0:34:230:34:28

But she, obviously, was a considerable age.

0:34:280:34:32

We've got here... This is hers. Why did she get the OBE?

0:34:320:34:36

-She was a suffragette.

-Right.

0:34:360:34:38

And is she in this photograph?

0:34:380:34:40

-She is this lady here.

-So here we have a Radio Times cover from 1974.

0:34:400:34:45

-How old was she then?

-She was 100.

0:34:450:34:49

-So these, presumably, were three surviving suffragettes.

-Yes.

0:34:490:34:54

What do you know about her career?

0:34:540:34:56

I don't know that much, to be honest. I have some newspaper clippings, but I don't know that much about her.

0:34:560:35:03

-Do you know what suffragettes are?

-No, not really.

0:35:030:35:08

-I think they tried to get the vote.

-Exactly.

0:35:080:35:12

Leonora Cohen, as far as I know, was a very, very important suffragette.

0:35:120:35:19

-She was.

-She was right at the heart of the movement.

0:35:190:35:21

-Mrs Pankhurst... Do you know her?

-I think she was the most famous one.

0:35:210:35:27

Mrs Pankhurst was, in a sense, the key suffragette. She got it all going.

0:35:270:35:32

She gathered together this group of militant women who were prepared to fight to put it on the line.

0:35:320:35:38

Leonora Cohen was, in a sense... Bodyguard is the wrong word...

0:35:380:35:42

but she was a personal assistant who travelled round with her.

0:35:420:35:47

But the key thing, of course, is what is in here.

0:35:470:35:50

To me, this is total and complete magic. Do you know what it is?

0:35:500:35:54

-I think it's a medal of some sort.

-That's right.

0:35:540:35:59

Do you know why these medals were given?

0:35:590:36:02

-No.

-One of the things the suffragettes did,

0:36:020:36:05

was when they were breaking windows or whatever, they were often arrested,

0:36:050:36:09

and when they went to prison, they refused to eat, and they refused to drink.

0:36:090:36:14

They carried on their protest in prison. Can you imagine, you've been arrested and taken to prison,

0:36:140:36:19

-and then, you don't eat or drink. They were either force-fed...

-I think she was force-fed.

0:36:190:36:27

From what I know of her career, she did two crucial things. One - she went into the Tower of London,

0:36:270:36:32

and with an iron bar hidden in her coat, she broke one of the cases and hit the crown jewels.

0:36:320:36:38

-Why did she do that?

-It was all about bringing attention.

0:36:380:36:42

You had to do violent things. Otherwise, the papers wouldn't report it.

0:36:420:36:47

And here she is, I think, going back to the Tower of London. She's visiting the scene of her crime.

0:36:470:36:54

She was locked up in the Tower.

0:36:540:36:56

But later, when the Prime Minister Asquith came to talk in Leeds,

0:36:560:37:01

she threw a brick through a window, again, to attract attention, to say, "Look, we're fighting!"

0:37:010:37:07

and for that, she was locked up in Armley Gaol in Leeds. And that's when she did her hunger strike.

0:37:070:37:12

So then, only those women who had taken part in the hunger strikes were given the medal

0:37:120:37:18

by the suffragettes. I'm gonna read this...

0:37:180:37:21

"Leonora Cohen, by the Women's and Political Union in recognition of a gallant action,

0:37:210:37:26

"whereby through endurance to the last extremity of hunger and hardship

0:37:260:37:31

"a great principle of political justice was vindicated." Wonderful stuff, I think!

0:37:310:37:36

But this is what you've got. So these are the remains of that great career.

0:37:360:37:41

-But she lived to be over 100.

-Absolutely fantastic.

-What a heroine!

0:37:410:37:46

I'm just so excited about this, but I think these were great days of our history.

0:37:460:37:52

-I wish people fought like this now.

-So do I. We're very proud to have her as part of our family.

-Yeah.

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You must really think this was a great woman. You're so lucky.

0:37:580:38:03

-Now, in Roadshow terms, of course, values. Do you know what all this is worth?

-I don't have a clue.

0:38:030:38:09

The OBE is not really significant - it's a few hundred pounds - because there are lots of them.

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Come to this.

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Here we have...

0:38:160:38:18

the tops.

0:38:180:38:20

It's the medal for hunger strike. They're very rare.

0:38:200:38:24

It's in the box. It's personalised to her.

0:38:240:38:28

And, therefore, that is going to be...

0:38:280:38:32

as good as it gets.

0:38:320:38:34

She was also a key figure - a lieutenant of Mrs Pankhurst.

0:38:340:38:38

-You've got there, I would say, about £7,000.

-Oh, my God!

0:38:380:38:43

Gosh!

0:38:460:38:48

-It's a lot of money, but this is family history. You must never, ever sell it!

-No, I would never sell it.

0:38:480:38:54

-Would I be able to put it somewhere where people could see it?

-You can lend it to a museum,

0:38:540:38:58

to Armley, to Leeds Museum. There must be other suffragette stuff there. It should be seen.

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It cannot get better than that.

0:39:040:39:06

Thank you very much.

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We've had some amazingly long queues here today,

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which is quite appropriate for a place which has boasted the longest pier in the country.

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It also boasts the smallest pub, but that's another story.

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From Southport, for now, goodbye.

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