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Welcome back to the Floral Hall in Southport, Lancashire. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
People used to flock here for big bathing Sundays | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
and sometimes they came for the cure as well, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
which consisted of drinking three pints of sea water mixed | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
with nourishing items | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
such as cuttlefish bones and woodlice. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Ah, the good old days(!) They're a hardy lot here. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
Let's join them again. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Now I'm intrigued to know how long you've been | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
having a sort of relationship with this, this Egyptian dancing girl. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
Oh, I know, I know, goes back a long way, about 77 years. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
-77 years? -Yes, it belonged to my aunt who spoiled me, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
and I would go there regularly for weekends and when | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
I went to bed, and she put me to bed, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
she would take the stopper and put it in my hand and tell me stories | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
about this place called Egypt with camels and pyramids and pretty women. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:49 | |
You've brought along a pretty girl today. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
-Indeed we have, indeed we have. -Because that is, you know, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
-one cracker of a perfume bottle. -Yes, it is. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
-Shall we have a look at her? -Please do, yes. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-OK, I mean, the emphasis is all in that stopper. -It is. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Because you've got this beautiful moulded figure of an Egyptian... | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
I think she must be a princess. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
-I think so too. -And then the actual bottle itself. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
-Yes. -Has been made in such a way that you've got these wonderful | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
spear shapes, or almost lotus leaves, so it's almost as though | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
she's actually on top of a large stylised flower head. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Now there's no maker's mark on there, is there? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
-No. -I mean although she may well have the appearance of an Egyptian, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
if she was going to talk to you, she would do so with a French accent, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
because she was made in France. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
I think it must have dawned upon me. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
What I'm intrigued to know is... | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
you see, this should have come with a box. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
-It did, yes. -It did? -It did. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
-You remember the box? -Yes. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
-A triangular box. -Yes. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
-I broke it. I broke it. -You broke it? | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
-When you say triangular, sort of like pyramidal? -Pyramid, yes. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-Like a pyramid. -The two front pieces folded round. -Yes. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
-Like a pyramid. -Yes, yes. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
It was made for a perfumer called Dubarry | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
and the perfume that would have gone in there was called Blue Lagoon. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
-Ah, right. -OK, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
and the actual bottle was made by a bottle manufacturer called Depinoix, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
but what is important is the designer. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
This bottle was designed originally in 1919, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
OK, and all the remarkable because | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
they hadn't discovered Tutankhamun by that time, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
that's later in the 1920s. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
That's when you get this, this great rush of everything Egyptian. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
But this is designed by something of an unsung hero, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
a man called Julien Viard. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
As far as perfume bottle collectors are concerned, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
that's a magical name, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
so on that basis alone there's good news and there's bad news. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:49 | |
There always is, life is like that. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
OK, now there are plenty of perfume bottle collectors out there | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
that would very much like to take this girl home and put them | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
in their collection. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
They would be more than happy to pay you the best part of between £2,000 | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and £2,500 just for the privilege. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-Never! For that?! -Right, now that's the good news. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
-Yes. -The bad news is that if you'd have retained the box... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
-Yes. -..then that would have doubled the value. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
-Oh! -You would have been talking nearer £5,000. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
-Oh, my goodness, my goodness. -So it was worth as much as the bottle. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
Yes, remarkable. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-You're sure it's not at home? -Oh, no. -It's long gone? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Sorry, it's long gone. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
But at least you're left with an Egyptian maiden | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and there can't be many of those to the square mile in Southport. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
Fascinating collection of boxes, but what started you off? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
I had a collection of stamps which I'd collected over a number of years | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
and I gave them to my son, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
and I was always fascinating collecting something | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
so I just thought I'd like to collect some snuff boxes. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Now, which are your favourites? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Well, this one, this one, and that for an intriguing reason, really. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
So, the intriguing reason on this one? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Well, it's a good trick one | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
because you ask people to open it and they can't open it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Cos of course you've got to squeeze it. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
-Squeeze it. -And up it comes. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
-But, actually, this is not a snuff box. -Oh, right. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
-This is a tobacco box. -Right. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
These were made round the turn of the 19-20th century, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
very fashionable at that period. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
Now, the other favourites. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
This one, now this one's actually quite intriguing | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
because of course we open there to reveal what doesn't seem | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
to be quite the right sort of space and then open again there, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
you get this wonderful sort of concertina action. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
Well, I was told, I don't know whether it's true, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
that when the gentleman opened it in the first case, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
-he offered you the snuff from there. -Right. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Which was poor quality and he kept the best for himself. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
The best for himself in there. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
-I don't know whether that's true or not. -It's a lovely idea. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
Now, let's just have a look and see what this one's all about. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Yes, this is a Birmingham-made box, in fact, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
by a chap called John Shaw of Birmingham | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
in the reign of George III, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
absolutely super one. It's beautiful the way it all closes back. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
But this one, which was another of your favourites... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
Yes, I just like it for the work on it. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
Yes, and the castle top. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-Right. -Now, castle tops are amongst the most desirable. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
-I see. -Now the maker here... Do you know who it is? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-Nathaniel Mills, I do know that one. -Yes, Nathaniel Mills, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
great Birmingham box maker, the very best of the Birminghams. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Do you remember how much you paid for that one? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Um, I don't really, it was a few hundred pounds. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Yup, I mean that doesn't surprise me. How long ago? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
About four years ago or five years ago. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
They have been going up nicely since then. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
-Have they? -Oh, yes. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
You'd be hard pushed to find a Mills box | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
of this quality under £1,000 today. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-Oh, gosh, that is interesting. That's very nice! -So you're doing very... | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
-You're doing well on that one. -Right. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
This one, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
I should think we're probably looking at a good £600-£700 | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
-on that one. -Very nice, yes. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-Good, yes. -Which is nice. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
And tobacco boxes like this... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-not snuff boxes. -Tobacco box, yes. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-I mean, that is not going to be enormously valuable. -No. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-Um, perhaps around the £200 mark. -I see, very nice. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
So I would not be surprised if there wasn't sort of £3,000-£4,000 | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
quite easily sitting on that table, possibly slightly more. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
That's very nice, thank you. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
-So keep up your collecting. -I will, thank you very much indeed. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
I'm very glad to see this piece because in current circumstances, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
it's very important for us to remember how long | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
the British love affair with the Middle East has been. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
You know, here is a fantastic piece of Islamic-style furniture. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Now, do you love it? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
I absolutely adore it, yes, I do. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
And where has it come from? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Well, my husband bought it, he bought it in Preston | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
only about three years ago | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
and he came home and he said, "I've seen the most wonderful sideboard," | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
not telling me how big it was, "the most wonderful sideboard. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
"I'm going to get it. I've decided I'm going to get it." | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
but there was a little sacrifice attached to it. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
-Oh, what's that? -And we got it and... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Just before Christmas about three years ago, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
we'd been planning a holiday and of course because | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
he'd made this purchase, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
we didn't have a holiday that year. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-So this is your holiday? -Yes. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
There are so many typical elements about this. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
Just to go back in time, from about the 1870s, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
every department store was selling | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
what they called Anglo-Moorish furniture. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
-Yes. -And this is a classic, classic example of that. -Yes. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
This is not based on anything Middle Eastern at all. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Middle Eastern furniture doesn't look remotely like this. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
It doesn't matter. This was what we THOUGHT it looked like | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and that's why they brought in the familiar pierced panels | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
and they were used in interior screens in Islamic houses. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
You've got these lovely Islamic style arches, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
you've got even the Islamic patterning | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
taken from tiles on the stained glass. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
Everything is a mass of Islamic design, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
all from books, design books of the time and put together | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
by some manufacturer. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
I'll tell you straightaway I've no idea who made it, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
but it would have been probably one of the big Manchester-based | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
manufacturers whose wares were being sold in the department stores | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
that were the contemporary taste. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Now I have to ask you... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
what's all that? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
Well...my husband put those there, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
the reason being that on top of there, there are holes which | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
would have had something in, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
maybe finials and he felt that he had to put them there. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
-So off he went to the DIY shop. -And made them, yes. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
And he bought some curtain poles and some banisters. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-He did. -They're great because they're completely, wonderfully wrong. -Yeah. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
But at the same time they've turned it into a sort of mosque, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
-they're like the... -That was his idea, actually, yes. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
You ought to have it wired up so that the call to prayer | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
comes out in the morning. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
So, it was bought instead of a holiday. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
I think it'll last longer than a holiday. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
I'm sure, yeah, I love it. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
I think this is such a classic in that sort of Anglo-Moresque taste, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
if you wanted to find one, go and find a better one and I bet you | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
can't, you know, this has it all. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
-Yes. -And I'm therefore going to say I think about £3,000 | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
so you could nearly have had a cruise. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
A short cruise. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
It would be a short one, yes. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
It's a fascinating group. Where did it come from? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
They've been in the family now for 50 years at least | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
because my father-in-law was an avid collector. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
He loved things like this and he actually died when he was 45 | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
and it's 50 years next year since he died, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
so they've been in the family all that time, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
so none of us know what he paid for them or anything at all. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Right, do you have a favourite one? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Well, really, I suppose I've got one or two but I do like that one. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
Right, this one's a charming little group of... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
father, he's supposed to be, entertaining his son, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
the son has got a fish on wheels, which is a typical Japanese toy, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
-and, in actual fact, it's not of the best quality. -No. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
Um, nevertheless, that's going to be worth around £400-£500. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
-This... -That's my favourite. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Is it? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
-Well done you! -It's beautiful. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Yeah, it's a fantastic carving. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
What's happened is, this boy has... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
..walking along with a bucket on his back, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
and he's tripped over a snake, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
but look at that bottom. I mean, that is staggering, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
-you know, the snake and the ropes. -The detail. -Carved out, yeah. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
All carved from one piece, it's an amazing bit of work. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Superb carving. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Now, what about these, do you like these? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Oh, I do. They were the main things that I was bringing, really. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
-Do you know what they are? -I don't know anything about them at all. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
I honestly don't and I haven't seen anything quite like them before, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
the pretty colours and... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
They are amazing, aren't they? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
-They are. -Um, it's a technique called Shibayama. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
We've got a silver - and this is silver - plate, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
which has been inlaid with ivory panels and that... | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
They have then been inlaid | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
with mother of pearl, stained ivory, coral, coconut shell, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
all sorts of things, and in the centre, the same technique, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
but into lacquer. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
This is the Takarabune, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
which is the treasure ship. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-Oh, I see. -And these are the seven gods of good fortune. -Oh! | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
And...here they are again. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
-Is that the ones? -Yeah, here they are again. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
They're around a vat of wine which they're slurping from. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
It's a wonderful, wonderful group. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
Let's do a few values. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
£700 to £900, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
£800 to £900, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
£1,000 to £1,500. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
I did a bit of a...a tot-up earlier | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
-and I came to over £10,000 on this table. -Oh! | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
Bloomin' heck, Mum! | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
This is a very interesting teapot | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
A theme has begun to develop today. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
I'm beginning to see more and more paintings by this singular painter, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
James Isherwood | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
and we've now got one, two, three here with two owners. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
-You, sir, I gather, own this one here on the right. -Yes. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
And you, madam, that one on the left. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-That's correct. -And I'm beginning to get the impression | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
that he left a very big dent indeed in the history of Southport, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
but also in Wigan nearby, so I think we need to sort of go back a bit | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and first work out where you found these pictures. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
So where did you come across these? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-Well, this one I found in, I think they called the shop Haggerty's. -Yes. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
And it was closing down and it was a shop that did framing | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
and this was just stood in the corner. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-Did it cost you much? -No. -How much? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
£10. £10. Oh, not bad, not bad at all, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
And then this one beneath, you ended up... | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Well, because I'd got this one... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
-Yes. -..I felt as though I would like another one | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
on the other side of the fireplace, so this one... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
there was an exhibition in... | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
I think it was The Royal at Southport and I took this one. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
A very striking picture it is. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
And then, for something not completely different, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
but by the same artist. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:23 | |
How did you end up with this? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Oh, well, basically I was working for a local antique shop in Southport | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
and I'd seen it on display for some weeks | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
and nobody had shown an interest in it | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
and after about a month, I was back again, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
doing some more work for the chap, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
and it was still there and it just sort of begged me to buy it | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and I just loved the Coronation Street theme as well. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, we're going to return to that in a sec, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
but we are dealing with a really extraordinary artist. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
At least one other picture I've seen today was by him | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and I gather there were some drawings earlier on. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Clearly he is someone who is embraced by this place, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
but he was also a highly controversial figure as well, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
wasn't he? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-He was an eccentric, he was difficult. -He was, yes. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
He was confrontational and it comes out in his art | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
because what he wanted to do, I think, was shock. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
He wanted to find ways, different ways of shocking people | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
by plundering 20th-century art, by looking at all the techniques | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
around to express emotion by colour | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and by shape and by slightly unformed figures, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
he was able to animate this landscape up here | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
and add quite a lot to the one beneath in a sort of... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
not quite impressionistic or post-impressionistic way, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
not quite a modernist way, but a sort of mishmash, really, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
and then the same theme carries on into this view of Coronation Street. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
I mean, what an unusual, what an unorthodox approach to art! | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
"I'm going to do a painting of Coronation Street on telly." | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
I mean, bizarre, isn't it? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
I think the same character, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
the same character who slaps you in the face, is doing it here as well. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
What is interesting about this artist is he's beginning | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
to enjoy an ascension. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
He died, I think, was it ten years ago? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-'89, I think. -Was it? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
-Something like that. -Yes. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
And of course many artists need to be dead for at least ten years | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
before they enjoy that | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
so I think you're very fortunate, both of you, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
owning pictures by this artist | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
and I think the work at the top there, which you bought for £10, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
is probably worth £600 or £700 now. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
-Yes. -I think the one below is worth probably £1,000 to £1,500 | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
and that I think is probably worth £1,500 on its own. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
You don't want to swap, do you? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
No, I bought them as a pair! | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
I'm being controversial, a bit like him. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
So, two carriage clocks, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
ooh, both, if I might say so... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
certainly that one and this one probably as well, oh, yes... | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
very dusty, very dusty indeed, rather unloved. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Tell me why that is. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
They belonged to my great aunt | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
and, um, my mother inherited them and they've been passed to me | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
to go to my sons. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
How old are the sons? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
They are 22 and 24. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
So you've got a problem really there and I'll explain why. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
This little one is early 20th century. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
A Bath retailer there, I see, but then the giveaway | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
is "Made in Paris". | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
You've got a comparatively boring lever platform on the top. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-Right. -And you've got the whole thing encased in brass rather than glass, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:42 | |
so although it's a carriage timepiece, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
it's not particularly attractive in its sort of squat, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
rather un-commercial case. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Which of these do you prefer, by the way? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
This one I think, but I haven't seen them very much. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
They've been in the case for such a long time | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
and it's nice to see them again. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
OK, well, let's see whether you're sort of on the right decision time. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
This is a corniche case carriage clock. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-Do you know what the little button does? -I don't. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-Well, it's a repeater. -Right. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
-And the intriguing thing about this is that it has two hammers. -Right. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:20 | |
And what I'm going to do is to press that button and you'll hear it now. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
CHIMING | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
It's currently striking the hours. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
-Right. -And on a different gong, it's striking some more. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
Yes. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
And it should be striking ten. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
It has, it's done ten | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
and what it's actually done, it's said it's five | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
and then ten other bits, so it's a five-minute repeater. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
-Right. -It is striking | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
to the preceding five minutes, so if it was almost six o'clock, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
it would say five and then 11 of the five minute periods, do you see? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
-I see, yes. -Rather a nice thing. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
So the reason I say you've got a problem is because your two boys | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
are going to have to decide who has which clock. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Now, was there a favourite of this great aunt or not? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Well, one of the children had more to do with her than the other one, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
yes, and did odd jobs and things. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Will you give him first choice? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
I think he'll have to, unless they arm wrestle for them. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
If he chooses this one, that has an auction price today | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
of not much more than £60. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Right. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
So, if he doesn't choose this, are you going to dare tell him | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
that this is actually about £1,400? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Right. Fantastic. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
OK. Now THAT'S the problem, isn't it? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
At first sight, a lovely chest. Tell me about it. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Well, just after the war, my mother wanted a blanket box | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and she saw one advertised in the York Press at a place called Malton | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
so she went along to this ordinary house and there was this chest | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
and she said to the woman, "You're selling it for £10?" | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
and she said "Well, I want just to get rid of it." | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
And so, not unnaturally, my mother said, "Deal done." | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Really? How fascinating. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
What I want to do first of all is actually to stroke it | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
-because it feel... This is a real Arthur Negus moment for me. -Yes. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
Arthur Negus used to really stroke furniture, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and this is so satin-like in quality. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
-Yes. -Do you know what it's made of? | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
-No, I don't, no. -It's cedar wood. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-Cedar wood? Oh, right. -It's quite good wood to use for clothes chests | 0:21:43 | 0:21:48 | |
because it's supposed to keep the insects away. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-Yes. -First of all, you can just about see there are figures here | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
and there seems to be lovemaking scenes, young men and women, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
musical instruments, troubadours, whatever. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
-Yeah. -And I can see that on the top, on this lovely silky wood, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
there is evidence that there was decoration here as well, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
which has got worn away. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
This sort of thing isn't really a blanket chest. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-No. -It's a cassone. -A what? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
It's Italian and it was... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
a cassone, which was a dower chest | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
-and they were often supplied in pairs. -Yes. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
So these were in a sense designed to take textiles, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
but the dowry, the bride's clothes. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
-Yes. -The outside is interesting, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
but let's have a look what happens inside. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
Oh, wow, look at that! | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Now, this is what it would have looked like outside originally | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
and you can see now on the inside | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
two panels with lovemaking in a pastoral scene | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
and you can see, I think, more or less what the sort of date is. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Can you see the costumes? -Yes, yes. 16th century? | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
I think so, late 16th, maybe even early 17th century perhaps | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
with britches, doublet and hose, in other words, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
and in the centre of course, a cartouche, within, in this case, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
a blank shield | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
on which you would have had the coat of arms | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
or could have had the coat of arms | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
and that's what these cassone were about in many ways. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It was the two families coming together. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
I think it's so romantic, isn't it? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
It is wonderful, and I think now £10 turned into £3,000. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:27 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
-Good investment, then. -It's a wonderful thing. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
To me, this shows most beautifully the properties of silver, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
its light-reflective properties. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Absolutely stunning! | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
But the jug itself, where did you get it from? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Well, it came to us from my mother-in-law. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
She used it either as a coffee pot or a hot water jug, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
but apart from that, we know nothing about it. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Right then, very sensible. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I always think these are so much more useful than coffee pots | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
because you can use them for whatever, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
whereas much else other than coffee out of a coffee pot | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
looks a bit ridiculous. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
But have you ever actually thought about the date of it? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
No, we don't know anything about it. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
It's George III and in fact it's early George III. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
-Look under here, we've got the London hallmarks... -Yes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
..For 1768 and we've also got, rather interestingly, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:27 | |
the maker's mark there, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
-a chap called Emick Romer. -Emick Romer, right. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
-Now, he was actually Norwegian. -Oh. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
He was one of the immigrant craftsmen working in | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
London in the mid-18th century | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
and this wonderful flair that he brings to the whole thing. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Some of them... I mean, look at that wonderful detail there, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-the rococo scroll at the bottom. -It's beautiful. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
It really is, it's quite something | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
and has survived in remarkably good condition. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
I mean, there's a little bit of a bruise there, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
another one there, but that could be attended to | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
without too much difficulty. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
So, sort of value... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
have you thought about this? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
-We're ignorant. -Interestingly enough, actually, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
I think these were often amongst the best buys in 18th-century silver. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Were they? Ooh. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
In the sense that, ridiculously, although they are far more useful, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:25 | |
they're significantly less in value than coffee pots. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Some of these jugs you can actually buy for sort of £600-£800. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
This one, because of its wonderful condition, design | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
and the quality of the weight of it, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
-I think we're looking more towards the £1,000 to £1,200 mark. -Ooh! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:48 | |
Ooh, golly! | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
It is a lovely jug and I would certainly love to own it myself. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
-That brings back memories, you've no idea. -Really? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
I was at a boarding school and we had one of these. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-With folding doors? -Yeah, and that's how we phoned home. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
So apart from my own personal memories, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
this obviously takes us into the whole history of the telephone box. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
It certainly does. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
The first mobile telephone in the world in fact. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
-This is a mobile phone? -It's on wheels at the moment. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
It's got a bit smaller. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
-But, um, this is actually where it starts, isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Um, I mean going back in time, Graham Bell is 1876, I think. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
-Something like that, yes. -And so by the 1880s, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
-the telephone is becoming quite common. -It is, yes. -And there | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
is a need to use them in public, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-particularly railway stations. -Railway stations, hotels, etc. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
Yeah, but do you know the date of this one? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Well, I definitely know it's prior to 1902 | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
so it possibly could be 1890 or thereabouts. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
-So it's a Victorian phone box. -It's a Victorian phone box. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
-Fantastic. -These silence cabinets were produced by one manufacturer. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
-What are they called? -Silence cabinets. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
-Right. -The idea was that they came in a flat-pack, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
three sides, the doors, the bottom and the top. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-Flat-packed? -Flat-packed, they could be then shipped | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
around the country | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
and they could go out to the colonies where the railways were expanding. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
-Yes. -So we have records of India, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
we have records of South Africa and Rhodesia as well. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
But when you look at this, the design is so well done. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-Yes. -The machinery, the whole concept, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
-you'll see there's a hole in the roof as well. -Yeah. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Now actually when you go inside and close the doors, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
it actually creates an air movement | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
and this is to expel the previous occupant's pipe smoke or cigars. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
-Or perfume. -I don't think the ladies were allowed to use the telephone. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
-Really? -It was only the gentlemen that used it, yeah. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
So obviously that is later. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
This came from a Chinese restaurant in Southport. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
But I mean anybody... | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
I think you'd have to be 45 or 50 to remember the press-button box. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
-You would do, yes. -Press A, it goes through. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
-Press B, you get your money back. -That's right, yes. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
-Now do you use it at home? -We used to, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
but we've got so many other ICT gadgets, we prefer those now. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
I think it's great, it brings back fantastic memories, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
but it's also, as you say, a seriously rare object. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
-It is, yeah. -I haven't seen one since those days. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
-You won't have done. -And I won't have done. -No. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
So...which brings us onto the obvious Roadshow point, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
you got it for £5, as an unwanted, abandoned object. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
-Plus VAT. -Oh, plus VAT. Um, what's it worth? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
-You're the telephone specialist. -I've no idea. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
The Gilbert Scott ones were sold off for £300, £500, £700 and it | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
cost you that much to have it moved. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Um, if you're a real telephone fanatic, where are you going | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
to get another of these? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
-You're not. -You're not. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
-No. -So I'd have thought we must be talking £1,000 | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
for sheer rarity, don't you? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-Yeah... -And that's disregarding... | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
TELEPHONE RINGS | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
-Expecting a call? -It must be for you. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Hello? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
Not now, darling, we're working. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
It was for me. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
Right, good, good. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
This picture, tell me a little bit about it. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
This picture was drawn by a war artist of | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
the London Illustrated News. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
The action took place in Villers-Bocage | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
and my father's regiment had recently taken quite a beating. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
He was sent into the town, saw a number of German tanks, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
decided that if he cut them off at either end of this road - | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
there were six or seven - | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
he would have them trapped. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:39 | |
And then, when they were well and truly trapped, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
this one at the front here started to try and escape, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
it started trying to blast the side of the house down, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
from where he hoped to deliver a lethal blow | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
to the Firefly tank there | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
which was commanded by Sergeant Bobby Brammell. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
-So this is your father's... -This is one of his tanks. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
-I see, right. -At this time, my father was probably on foot | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
because he'd realised that it would be much better | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
if he tried to direct the operation on foot rather than in his tank, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
and at the same time, it's worth mentioning, it was pouring with rain. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
-Really? -And he was very lucky to have an umbrella | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and people often thought it rather funny that he was | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
directing some of this operation | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
underneath an umbrella, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
and according to my father's diary | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
that he'd hastily written up that night, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
his troop were lucky enough to manage to knock out, he thought, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
seven German Tigers, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
but that's all he says. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
He just says, "We had a good day that afternoon. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
"I think we got seven Tigers." He said no more than that. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
Right, now we've got some treasured photographs of him here. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
-Where's your father there? -My father is there. -Oh, the first one, here. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:54 | |
What was his rank and name? | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
When that picture was taken, he was a lieutenant, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
his name was Leslie Cotton, but he was known as most people | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
by the name of Bill, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
so to everybody he was Bill Cotton. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I notice he's wearing an Iron Cross 1st Class and I don't think he... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
He must have picked that up on the way somewhere. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
I don't think Hitler awarded that one. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
No, but of course your father certainly was well decorated, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
wasn't he? | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Well, yes, he was, he won the MM when he was in the Western Desert | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
and as a result of this action, he won the MC. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
Here we have this lovely group, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
MC, MM, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
39-45, Africa Star, bar, Italy, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:45 | |
France and Germany, Defence and War medal, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
I mean, he was well used, wasn't he? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
Yes, he was well used. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
He actually joined the regiment a week before war broke out, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
having answered an advertisement in the Daily Telegraph | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
asking gentlemen to attend a particular address in London | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
if they were interested in joining the regiment so he did that | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
and subsequently found himself in. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Now, this is quite an unusual combination. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
If this was a Military Medal group, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
we're looking at something in excess of £1,000 quite easily. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
If it was a Military Cross group, without the MM, we're looking at | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
something like perhaps £1,500... | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
£2,000 perhaps. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
But the combination of two and cavalry...well, and tanks, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:40 | |
-this group has a value of something like £5,000 or more. -Really? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Because the magic is on the tanks, I feel. -Yes, yeah, yeah. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
And it doesn't demeanour any other's actions, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
but, you know, its tank actions | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
are well regarded from the collecting fraternity. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
So, you know, you've got a lovely group there. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
My name is Mike Ormerod and that was taken in my days | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
with the Mecca ballroom circuit and that's taken at the | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Locarno Ballroom in Burnley | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
where I worked as a disc jockey in the 1960s. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
Right, there can't be many albums that run from Mrs Mills | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
right through to Jimi Hendrix. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
Well, that's right and being a local DJ did give you an opportunity | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
to meet contacts who would get you backstage to see these artists. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
So let's see what we've got here. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
We've got the Rolling Stones. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
You've got all five of the Rolling Stones at that period. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
Yeah, I worked at Blackburn Locarno | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
and that autograph was signed when the Rolling Stones | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
-played at Blackburn Odeon Cinema on a tour in 1964. -Really, '64? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
-1964. -And in fact, actually, what year is this one? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
-That was 1966, that's two years later... -Right. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
..When I saw the Stones again at Chester ABC when they were on tour. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
And you got Brian Jones to sign it again. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
All five of them again, you know. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
So you were a bit of a Stones fan? Or just anybody? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
I liked everybody, but I did like the Stones | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
but I was brought up on rock 'n' roll. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:15 | |
-Right. -I enjoyed the early rock 'n' roll guys, Little Richard | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
-and Fats Domino and Jerry Lee Lewis. -They're all in here too. -Yes. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
And I love this. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
You obviously got a bit carried away here with the Rolling Stones | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
because you've got on each page the Stones and you know, here, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
here we've got Keith, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
looks slightly better there than he does now. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
-He's not worn well, has he? -He's... | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
It's not a good advertisement for the rock 'n' roll lifestyle. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
-No, no. -It must have been exciting. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
-It was. -Jimi Hendrix, I mean... -Nelson Imperial Ballroom. -Was it? | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
Jimi Hendrix had a dressing room at the back of the stage | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
which consisted of a three-sided partition with no roof on | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
and just a little door into the thing, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
slatted benches round three sides | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
and he was just sat there and I sat down next to him, got all those done. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
Was he wearing his trademark jacket like that? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
-Can you remember? -He didn't have that on, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-because he hadn't got ready to go on stage at that point. -Really? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
-No, it was... -But he had the time to write "Be groovy, Jimi Hendrix". | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
Oh, yeah, it was just after he released Purple Haze | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
as a single and he came on stage, | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
everything went dark and they put the purple spotlight on him | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
and he just struck up the initial chords and all the hairs | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
on the back of me neck... | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
I mean, there is so much but I must have a... | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
In here, there is a couple more than I must have a look at. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
You've got... What have we got here? | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
-Well, The Beatles, you know. -Yeah. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
All four Beatles on a publicity shot, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
but how did you get this particular one? | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Backstage, King George's Hall, Blackburn. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Right, it's a great photo, that one. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-And of course a BBC producer today, Paul Jones. -Paul Jones. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
Does the blues programme on Thursday evenings or whatever it is. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
-Yeah, I've met Paul about five times. -Really? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
And had some nice chats to Paul. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
Well, now, you've got... | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
The ship's sinking | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
and you've got to choose which page | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
-you're going to keep out of all of this. -Right, right. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Which one would you keep? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
Well, there's two pages further on in that book | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
that's got Jerry Lee Lewis, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
Little Richard, Fats Domino and Chuck Berry in, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
but that one there... | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
I know I've got The Beatles and I know I've got the Stones, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
but with Jimi dedicating that, it's just got a special meaning. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
I must say, if I could choose any of the pages, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
-I would probably choose the Hendrix page as well. -Yeah. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
Now, the real challenge is what on earth is all this worth? | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
It's very difficult to say because of course in this particular album | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
you've got them all pasted in, but it is a... | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
It is a complete record of the bands of the day. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
Coupled with that, you've got this, which is, they're all loose | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
but there are some great ones in there, too. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
I've got loose ones of those as well. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
-Of all these as well? -Yeah. -I haven't even seen those. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
Imagine what we've got here is all you've got. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
Right. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
With a Hendrix, one like this is probably worth £2,000. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
You've got The Rolling Stones album signed by all the five Stones, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
let's say £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
You've got The Beatles here, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
all four Beatles on a really nice photo there, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
that's going to be £1,500 plus. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Um, and so on and so on and so on, and you know, just at a glance, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
you must have somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000 worth | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
just here on the table. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
I need a bank vault, then, don't I? | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Yeah, you do because it's just...wonderful. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
We're always looking for interesting things in interesting places, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
and interesting people. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Welcome to the Paris of the North. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
-Where are you from? -Barcelona. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
-Barcelona? -Barcelona. -They have Lord Street and you have Las Ramblas. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
That's right. Oh, I think Las Ramblas | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
is just as nice as Lord Street. Not nicer, but just as nice. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
-That's the way to say it, diplomatic. -Diplomatic. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Why are you here? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
Because I am a fan of the Roadshow | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
and I've been following this programme for a long, long time | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
and I just wanted to be here and I have a girlfriend | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
who lives in Southport | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
and I said, "That's my time to go there and be with them." | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
-And here you are. -Here I am. -Nice to meet you, thank you. -OK. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
And from Southport, goodbye. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Adios, amigos de Roadshow! Adios! | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 |