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Welcome back to the Floral Hall in Southport, Lancashire.

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People used to flock here for big bathing Sundays

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and sometimes they came for the cure as well,

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which consisted of drinking three pints of sea water mixed

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with nourishing items

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such as cuttlefish bones and woodlice.

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Ah, the good old days(!) They're a hardy lot here.

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Let's join them again.

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Now I'm intrigued to know how long you've been

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having a sort of relationship with this, this Egyptian dancing girl.

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Oh, I know, I know, goes back a long way, about 77 years.

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-77 years?

-Yes, it belonged to my aunt who spoiled me,

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and I would go there regularly for weekends and when

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I went to bed, and she put me to bed,

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she would take the stopper and put it in my hand and tell me stories

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about this place called Egypt with camels and pyramids and pretty women.

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You've brought along a pretty girl today.

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-Indeed we have, indeed we have.

-Because that is, you know,

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-one cracker of a perfume bottle.

-Yes, it is.

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-Shall we have a look at her?

-Please do, yes.

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-OK, I mean, the emphasis is all in that stopper.

-It is.

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Because you've got this beautiful moulded figure of an Egyptian...

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I think she must be a princess.

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-I think so too.

-And then the actual bottle itself.

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-Yes.

-Has been made in such a way that you've got these wonderful

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spear shapes, or almost lotus leaves, so it's almost as though

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she's actually on top of a large stylised flower head.

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Now there's no maker's mark on there, is there?

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-No.

-I mean although she may well have the appearance of an Egyptian,

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if she was going to talk to you, she would do so with a French accent,

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because she was made in France.

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I think it must have dawned upon me.

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What I'm intrigued to know is...

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you see, this should have come with a box.

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-It did, yes.

-It did?

-It did.

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-You remember the box?

-Yes.

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-A triangular box.

-Yes.

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-I broke it. I broke it.

-You broke it?

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-When you say triangular, sort of like pyramidal?

-Pyramid, yes.

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-Like a pyramid.

-The two front pieces folded round.

-Yes.

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-Like a pyramid.

-Yes, yes.

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It was made for a perfumer called Dubarry

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and the perfume that would have gone in there was called Blue Lagoon.

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-Ah, right.

-OK,

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and the actual bottle was made by a bottle manufacturer called Depinoix,

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but what is important is the designer.

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This bottle was designed originally in 1919,

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OK, and all the remarkable because

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they hadn't discovered Tutankhamun by that time,

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that's later in the 1920s.

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That's when you get this, this great rush of everything Egyptian.

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But this is designed by something of an unsung hero,

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a man called Julien Viard.

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As far as perfume bottle collectors are concerned,

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that's a magical name,

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so on that basis alone there's good news and there's bad news.

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There always is, life is like that.

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OK, now there are plenty of perfume bottle collectors out there

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that would very much like to take this girl home and put them

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in their collection.

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They would be more than happy to pay you the best part of between £2,000

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and £2,500 just for the privilege.

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-Never! For that?!

-Right, now that's the good news.

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-Yes.

-The bad news is that if you'd have retained the box...

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-Yes.

-..then that would have doubled the value.

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-Oh!

-You would have been talking nearer £5,000.

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-Oh, my goodness, my goodness.

-So it was worth as much as the bottle.

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Yes, remarkable.

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-You're sure it's not at home?

-Oh, no.

-It's long gone?

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Sorry, it's long gone.

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But at least you're left with an Egyptian maiden

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and there can't be many of those to the square mile in Southport.

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Fascinating collection of boxes, but what started you off?

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I had a collection of stamps which I'd collected over a number of years

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and I gave them to my son,

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and I was always fascinating collecting something

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so I just thought I'd like to collect some snuff boxes.

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Now, which are your favourites?

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Well, this one, this one, and that for an intriguing reason, really.

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So, the intriguing reason on this one?

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Well, it's a good trick one

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because you ask people to open it and they can't open it.

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Cos of course you've got to squeeze it.

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-Squeeze it.

-And up it comes.

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-But, actually, this is not a snuff box.

-Oh, right.

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-This is a tobacco box.

-Right.

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These were made round the turn of the 19-20th century,

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very fashionable at that period.

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Now, the other favourites.

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This one, now this one's actually quite intriguing

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because of course we open there to reveal what doesn't seem

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to be quite the right sort of space and then open again there,

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you get this wonderful sort of concertina action.

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Well, I was told, I don't know whether it's true,

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that when the gentleman opened it in the first case,

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-he offered you the snuff from there.

-Right.

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Which was poor quality and he kept the best for himself.

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The best for himself in there.

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-I don't know whether that's true or not.

-It's a lovely idea.

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Now, let's just have a look and see what this one's all about.

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Yes, this is a Birmingham-made box, in fact,

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by a chap called John Shaw of Birmingham

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in the reign of George III,

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absolutely super one. It's beautiful the way it all closes back.

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But this one, which was another of your favourites...

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Yes, I just like it for the work on it.

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Yes, and the castle top.

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-Right.

-Now, castle tops are amongst the most desirable.

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-I see.

-Now the maker here... Do you know who it is?

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-Nathaniel Mills, I do know that one.

-Yes, Nathaniel Mills,

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great Birmingham box maker, the very best of the Birminghams.

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Do you remember how much you paid for that one?

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Um, I don't really, it was a few hundred pounds.

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Yup, I mean that doesn't surprise me. How long ago?

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About four years ago or five years ago.

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They have been going up nicely since then.

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-Have they?

-Oh, yes.

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You'd be hard pushed to find a Mills box

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of this quality under £1,000 today.

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-Oh, gosh, that is interesting. That's very nice!

-So you're doing very...

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-You're doing well on that one.

-Right.

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This one,

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I should think we're probably looking at a good £600-£700

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-on that one.

-Very nice, yes.

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-Good, yes.

-Which is nice.

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And tobacco boxes like this...

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-not snuff boxes.

-Tobacco box, yes.

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-I mean, that is not going to be enormously valuable.

-No.

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-Um, perhaps around the £200 mark.

-I see, very nice.

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So I would not be surprised if there wasn't sort of £3,000-£4,000

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quite easily sitting on that table, possibly slightly more.

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That's very nice, thank you.

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-So keep up your collecting.

-I will, thank you very much indeed.

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I'm very glad to see this piece because in current circumstances,

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it's very important for us to remember how long

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the British love affair with the Middle East has been.

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You know, here is a fantastic piece of Islamic-style furniture.

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Now, do you love it?

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I absolutely adore it, yes, I do.

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And where has it come from?

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Well, my husband bought it, he bought it in Preston

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only about three years ago

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and he came home and he said, "I've seen the most wonderful sideboard,"

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not telling me how big it was, "the most wonderful sideboard.

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"I'm going to get it. I've decided I'm going to get it."

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but there was a little sacrifice attached to it.

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-Oh, what's that?

-And we got it and...

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Just before Christmas about three years ago,

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we'd been planning a holiday and of course because

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he'd made this purchase,

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we didn't have a holiday that year.

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-So this is your holiday?

-Yes.

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There are so many typical elements about this.

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Just to go back in time, from about the 1870s,

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every department store was selling

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what they called Anglo-Moorish furniture.

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-Yes.

-And this is a classic, classic example of that.

-Yes.

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This is not based on anything Middle Eastern at all.

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Middle Eastern furniture doesn't look remotely like this.

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It doesn't matter. This was what we THOUGHT it looked like

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and that's why they brought in the familiar pierced panels

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and they were used in interior screens in Islamic houses.

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You've got these lovely Islamic style arches,

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you've got even the Islamic patterning

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taken from tiles on the stained glass.

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Everything is a mass of Islamic design,

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all from books, design books of the time and put together

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by some manufacturer.

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I'll tell you straightaway I've no idea who made it,

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but it would have been probably one of the big Manchester-based

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manufacturers whose wares were being sold in the department stores

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that were the contemporary taste.

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Now I have to ask you...

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what's all that?

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Well...my husband put those there,

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the reason being that on top of there, there are holes which

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would have had something in,

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maybe finials and he felt that he had to put them there.

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-So off he went to the DIY shop.

-And made them, yes.

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And he bought some curtain poles and some banisters.

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-He did.

-They're great because they're completely, wonderfully wrong.

-Yeah.

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But at the same time they've turned it into a sort of mosque,

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-they're like the...

-That was his idea, actually, yes.

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You ought to have it wired up so that the call to prayer

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comes out in the morning.

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So, it was bought instead of a holiday.

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I think it'll last longer than a holiday.

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I'm sure, yeah, I love it.

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I think this is such a classic in that sort of Anglo-Moresque taste,

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if you wanted to find one, go and find a better one and I bet you

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can't, you know, this has it all.

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-Yes.

-And I'm therefore going to say I think about £3,000

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so you could nearly have had a cruise.

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A short cruise.

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It would be a short one, yes.

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It's a fascinating group. Where did it come from?

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They've been in the family now for 50 years at least

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because my father-in-law was an avid collector.

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He loved things like this and he actually died when he was 45

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and it's 50 years next year since he died,

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so they've been in the family all that time,

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so none of us know what he paid for them or anything at all.

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Right, do you have a favourite one?

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Well, really, I suppose I've got one or two but I do like that one.

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Right, this one's a charming little group of...

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father, he's supposed to be, entertaining his son,

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the son has got a fish on wheels, which is a typical Japanese toy,

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-and, in actual fact, it's not of the best quality.

-No.

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Um, nevertheless, that's going to be worth around £400-£500.

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-This...

-That's my favourite.

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Is it?

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-Well done you!

-It's beautiful.

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Yeah, it's a fantastic carving.

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What's happened is, this boy has...

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..walking along with a bucket on his back,

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and he's tripped over a snake,

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but look at that bottom. I mean, that is staggering,

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-you know, the snake and the ropes.

-The detail.

-Carved out, yeah.

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All carved from one piece, it's an amazing bit of work.

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Superb carving.

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Now, what about these, do you like these?

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Oh, I do. They were the main things that I was bringing, really.

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-Do you know what they are?

-I don't know anything about them at all.

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I honestly don't and I haven't seen anything quite like them before,

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the pretty colours and...

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They are amazing, aren't they?

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-They are.

-Um, it's a technique called Shibayama.

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We've got a silver - and this is silver - plate,

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which has been inlaid with ivory panels and that...

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They have then been inlaid

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with mother of pearl, stained ivory, coral, coconut shell,

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all sorts of things, and in the centre, the same technique,

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but into lacquer.

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This is the Takarabune,

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which is the treasure ship.

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-Oh, I see.

-And these are the seven gods of good fortune.

-Oh!

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And...here they are again.

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-Is that the ones?

-Yeah, here they are again.

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They're around a vat of wine which they're slurping from.

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It's a wonderful, wonderful group.

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Let's do a few values.

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£700 to £900,

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£800 to £900,

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£1,000 to £1,500.

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I did a bit of a...a tot-up earlier

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-and I came to over £10,000 on this table.

-Oh!

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Bloomin' heck, Mum!

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This is a very interesting teapot

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A theme has begun to develop today.

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I'm beginning to see more and more paintings by this singular painter,

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James Isherwood

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and we've now got one, two, three here with two owners.

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-You, sir, I gather, own this one here on the right.

-Yes.

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And you, madam, that one on the left.

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-That's correct.

-And I'm beginning to get the impression

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that he left a very big dent indeed in the history of Southport,

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but also in Wigan nearby, so I think we need to sort of go back a bit

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and first work out where you found these pictures.

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So where did you come across these?

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-Well, this one I found in, I think they called the shop Haggerty's.

-Yes.

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And it was closing down and it was a shop that did framing

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and this was just stood in the corner.

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-Did it cost you much?

-No.

-How much?

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£10. £10. Oh, not bad, not bad at all,

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And then this one beneath, you ended up...

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Well, because I'd got this one...

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-Yes.

-..I felt as though I would like another one

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on the other side of the fireplace, so this one...

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there was an exhibition in...

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I think it was The Royal at Southport and I took this one.

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A very striking picture it is.

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And then, for something not completely different,

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but by the same artist.

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How did you end up with this?

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Oh, well, basically I was working for a local antique shop in Southport

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and I'd seen it on display for some weeks

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and nobody had shown an interest in it

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and after about a month, I was back again,

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doing some more work for the chap,

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and it was still there and it just sort of begged me to buy it

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and I just loved the Coronation Street theme as well.

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Well, we're going to return to that in a sec,

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but we are dealing with a really extraordinary artist.

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At least one other picture I've seen today was by him

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and I gather there were some drawings earlier on.

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Clearly he is someone who is embraced by this place,

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but he was also a highly controversial figure as well,

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wasn't he?

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-He was an eccentric, he was difficult.

-He was, yes.

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He was confrontational and it comes out in his art

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because what he wanted to do, I think, was shock.

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He wanted to find ways, different ways of shocking people

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by plundering 20th-century art, by looking at all the techniques

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around to express emotion by colour

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and by shape and by slightly unformed figures,

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he was able to animate this landscape up here

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and add quite a lot to the one beneath in a sort of...

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not quite impressionistic or post-impressionistic way,

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not quite a modernist way, but a sort of mishmash, really,

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and then the same theme carries on into this view of Coronation Street.

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I mean, what an unusual, what an unorthodox approach to art!

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"I'm going to do a painting of Coronation Street on telly."

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I mean, bizarre, isn't it?

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I think the same character,

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the same character who slaps you in the face, is doing it here as well.

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What is interesting about this artist is he's beginning

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to enjoy an ascension.

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He died, I think, was it ten years ago?

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-'89, I think.

-Was it?

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-Something like that.

-Yes.

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And of course many artists need to be dead for at least ten years

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before they enjoy that

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so I think you're very fortunate, both of you,

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owning pictures by this artist

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and I think the work at the top there, which you bought for £10,

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is probably worth £600 or £700 now.

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-Yes.

-I think the one below is worth probably £1,000 to £1,500

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and that I think is probably worth £1,500 on its own.

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You don't want to swap, do you?

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No, I bought them as a pair!

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I'm being controversial, a bit like him.

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So, two carriage clocks,

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ooh, both, if I might say so...

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certainly that one and this one probably as well, oh, yes...

0:17:570:18:01

very dusty, very dusty indeed, rather unloved.

0:18:010:18:05

Tell me why that is.

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They belonged to my great aunt

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and, um, my mother inherited them and they've been passed to me

0:18:080:18:11

to go to my sons.

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How old are the sons?

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They are 22 and 24.

0:18:150:18:18

So you've got a problem really there and I'll explain why.

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This little one is early 20th century.

0:18:210:18:26

A Bath retailer there, I see, but then the giveaway

0:18:260:18:29

is "Made in Paris".

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You've got a comparatively boring lever platform on the top.

0:18:310:18:35

-Right.

-And you've got the whole thing encased in brass rather than glass,

0:18:350:18:42

so although it's a carriage timepiece,

0:18:420:18:44

it's not particularly attractive in its sort of squat,

0:18:440:18:47

rather un-commercial case.

0:18:470:18:49

Which of these do you prefer, by the way?

0:18:490:18:53

This one I think, but I haven't seen them very much.

0:18:530:18:56

They've been in the case for such a long time

0:18:560:18:58

and it's nice to see them again.

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OK, well, let's see whether you're sort of on the right decision time.

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This is a corniche case carriage clock.

0:19:040:19:07

-Do you know what the little button does?

-I don't.

0:19:070:19:10

-Well, it's a repeater.

-Right.

0:19:100:19:12

-And the intriguing thing about this is that it has two hammers.

-Right.

0:19:120:19:20

And what I'm going to do is to press that button and you'll hear it now.

0:19:200:19:25

CHIMING

0:19:260:19:29

It's currently striking the hours.

0:19:290:19:31

-Right.

-And on a different gong, it's striking some more.

0:19:310:19:35

Yes.

0:19:350:19:36

And it should be striking ten.

0:19:360:19:40

It has, it's done ten

0:19:400:19:43

and what it's actually done, it's said it's five

0:19:430:19:48

and then ten other bits, so it's a five-minute repeater.

0:19:480:19:52

-Right.

-It is striking

0:19:520:19:54

to the preceding five minutes, so if it was almost six o'clock,

0:19:540:19:59

it would say five and then 11 of the five minute periods, do you see?

0:19:590:20:04

-I see, yes.

-Rather a nice thing.

0:20:040:20:07

So the reason I say you've got a problem is because your two boys

0:20:070:20:12

are going to have to decide who has which clock.

0:20:120:20:16

Now, was there a favourite of this great aunt or not?

0:20:160:20:19

Well, one of the children had more to do with her than the other one,

0:20:190:20:23

yes, and did odd jobs and things.

0:20:230:20:25

Will you give him first choice?

0:20:250:20:27

I think he'll have to, unless they arm wrestle for them.

0:20:270:20:30

If he chooses this one, that has an auction price today

0:20:300:20:36

of not much more than £60.

0:20:360:20:40

Right.

0:20:400:20:41

So, if he doesn't choose this, are you going to dare tell him

0:20:410:20:46

that this is actually about £1,400?

0:20:460:20:49

Right. Fantastic.

0:20:490:20:52

OK. Now THAT'S the problem, isn't it?

0:20:520:20:56

At first sight, a lovely chest. Tell me about it.

0:20:580:21:02

Well, just after the war, my mother wanted a blanket box

0:21:020:21:06

and she saw one advertised in the York Press at a place called Malton

0:21:060:21:10

so she went along to this ordinary house and there was this chest

0:21:100:21:14

and she said to the woman, "You're selling it for £10?"

0:21:140:21:17

and she said "Well, I want just to get rid of it."

0:21:170:21:20

And so, not unnaturally, my mother said, "Deal done."

0:21:200:21:23

Really? How fascinating.

0:21:230:21:26

What I want to do first of all is actually to stroke it

0:21:260:21:29

-because it feel... This is a real Arthur Negus moment for me.

-Yes.

0:21:290:21:33

Arthur Negus used to really stroke furniture,

0:21:330:21:35

and this is so satin-like in quality.

0:21:350:21:38

-Yes.

-Do you know what it's made of?

0:21:380:21:40

-No, I don't, no.

-It's cedar wood.

0:21:400:21:43

-Cedar wood? Oh, right.

-It's quite good wood to use for clothes chests

0:21:430:21:48

because it's supposed to keep the insects away.

0:21:480:21:51

-Yes.

-First of all, you can just about see there are figures here

0:21:510:21:54

and there seems to be lovemaking scenes, young men and women,

0:21:540:21:59

musical instruments, troubadours, whatever.

0:21:590:22:02

-Yeah.

-And I can see that on the top, on this lovely silky wood,

0:22:020:22:07

there is evidence that there was decoration here as well,

0:22:070:22:10

which has got worn away.

0:22:100:22:12

This sort of thing isn't really a blanket chest.

0:22:120:22:15

-No.

-It's a cassone.

-A what?

0:22:150:22:17

It's Italian and it was...

0:22:170:22:19

a cassone, which was a dower chest

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-and they were often supplied in pairs.

-Yes.

0:22:220:22:25

So these were in a sense designed to take textiles,

0:22:250:22:28

but the dowry, the bride's clothes.

0:22:280:22:30

-Yes.

-The outside is interesting,

0:22:300:22:32

but let's have a look what happens inside.

0:22:320:22:35

Oh, wow, look at that!

0:22:350:22:38

Now, this is what it would have looked like outside originally

0:22:380:22:42

and you can see now on the inside

0:22:420:22:44

two panels with lovemaking in a pastoral scene

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and you can see, I think, more or less what the sort of date is.

0:22:490:22:53

-Can you see the costumes?

-Yes, yes. 16th century?

0:22:530:22:58

I think so, late 16th, maybe even early 17th century perhaps

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with britches, doublet and hose, in other words,

0:23:030:23:05

and in the centre of course, a cartouche, within, in this case,

0:23:050:23:08

a blank shield

0:23:080:23:10

on which you would have had the coat of arms

0:23:100:23:12

or could have had the coat of arms

0:23:120:23:14

and that's what these cassone were about in many ways.

0:23:140:23:17

It was the two families coming together.

0:23:170:23:19

I think it's so romantic, isn't it?

0:23:190:23:21

It is wonderful, and I think now £10 turned into £3,000.

0:23:210:23:27

Oh, wow!

0:23:270:23:29

-Good investment, then.

-It's a wonderful thing.

0:23:290:23:32

To me, this shows most beautifully the properties of silver,

0:23:340:23:37

its light-reflective properties.

0:23:370:23:40

Absolutely stunning!

0:23:400:23:42

But the jug itself, where did you get it from?

0:23:420:23:45

Well, it came to us from my mother-in-law.

0:23:450:23:47

She used it either as a coffee pot or a hot water jug,

0:23:470:23:51

but apart from that, we know nothing about it.

0:23:510:23:53

Right then, very sensible.

0:23:530:23:55

I always think these are so much more useful than coffee pots

0:23:550:23:58

because you can use them for whatever,

0:23:580:24:00

whereas much else other than coffee out of a coffee pot

0:24:000:24:04

looks a bit ridiculous.

0:24:040:24:05

But have you ever actually thought about the date of it?

0:24:050:24:08

No, we don't know anything about it.

0:24:080:24:11

It's George III and in fact it's early George III.

0:24:110:24:15

-Look under here, we've got the London hallmarks...

-Yes.

0:24:150:24:20

..For 1768 and we've also got, rather interestingly,

0:24:200:24:27

the maker's mark there,

0:24:270:24:29

-a chap called Emick Romer.

-Emick Romer, right.

0:24:290:24:33

-Now, he was actually Norwegian.

-Oh.

0:24:330:24:35

He was one of the immigrant craftsmen working in

0:24:350:24:38

London in the mid-18th century

0:24:380:24:40

and this wonderful flair that he brings to the whole thing.

0:24:400:24:43

Some of them... I mean, look at that wonderful detail there,

0:24:430:24:46

-the rococo scroll at the bottom.

-It's beautiful.

0:24:460:24:49

It really is, it's quite something

0:24:490:24:52

and has survived in remarkably good condition.

0:24:520:24:56

I mean, there's a little bit of a bruise there,

0:24:560:25:00

another one there, but that could be attended to

0:25:000:25:03

without too much difficulty.

0:25:030:25:04

So, sort of value...

0:25:040:25:09

have you thought about this?

0:25:090:25:11

-We're ignorant.

-Interestingly enough, actually,

0:25:110:25:14

I think these were often amongst the best buys in 18th-century silver.

0:25:140:25:18

Were they? Ooh.

0:25:180:25:19

In the sense that, ridiculously, although they are far more useful,

0:25:190:25:25

they're significantly less in value than coffee pots.

0:25:250:25:29

Some of these jugs you can actually buy for sort of £600-£800.

0:25:290:25:34

This one, because of its wonderful condition, design

0:25:340:25:39

and the quality of the weight of it,

0:25:390:25:42

-I think we're looking more towards the £1,000 to £1,200 mark.

-Ooh!

0:25:420:25:48

Ooh, golly!

0:25:480:25:49

It is a lovely jug and I would certainly love to own it myself.

0:25:490:25:54

Thank you very much.

0:25:540:25:55

-That brings back memories, you've no idea.

-Really?

0:25:590:26:02

I was at a boarding school and we had one of these.

0:26:020:26:05

-With folding doors?

-Yeah, and that's how we phoned home.

0:26:050:26:08

So apart from my own personal memories,

0:26:080:26:11

this obviously takes us into the whole history of the telephone box.

0:26:110:26:14

It certainly does.

0:26:140:26:16

The first mobile telephone in the world in fact.

0:26:160:26:18

-This is a mobile phone?

-It's on wheels at the moment.

0:26:180:26:21

It's got a bit smaller.

0:26:210:26:23

-But, um, this is actually where it starts, isn't it?

-It is, yes.

0:26:230:26:27

Um, I mean going back in time, Graham Bell is 1876, I think.

0:26:270:26:32

-Something like that, yes.

-And so by the 1880s,

0:26:320:26:34

-the telephone is becoming quite common.

-It is, yes.

-And there

0:26:340:26:37

is a need to use them in public,

0:26:370:26:39

-particularly railway stations.

-Railway stations, hotels, etc.

0:26:390:26:43

Yeah, but do you know the date of this one?

0:26:430:26:46

Well, I definitely know it's prior to 1902

0:26:460:26:49

so it possibly could be 1890 or thereabouts.

0:26:490:26:54

-So it's a Victorian phone box.

-It's a Victorian phone box.

0:26:540:26:57

-Fantastic.

-These silence cabinets were produced by one manufacturer.

0:26:570:27:01

-What are they called?

-Silence cabinets.

0:27:010:27:04

-Right.

-The idea was that they came in a flat-pack,

0:27:040:27:07

three sides, the doors, the bottom and the top.

0:27:070:27:10

-Flat-packed?

-Flat-packed, they could be then shipped

0:27:100:27:13

around the country

0:27:130:27:14

and they could go out to the colonies where the railways were expanding.

0:27:140:27:19

-Yes.

-So we have records of India,

0:27:190:27:20

we have records of South Africa and Rhodesia as well.

0:27:200:27:24

But when you look at this, the design is so well done.

0:27:240:27:27

-Yes.

-The machinery, the whole concept,

0:27:270:27:29

-you'll see there's a hole in the roof as well.

-Yeah.

0:27:290:27:32

Now actually when you go inside and close the doors,

0:27:320:27:35

it actually creates an air movement

0:27:350:27:37

and this is to expel the previous occupant's pipe smoke or cigars.

0:27:370:27:41

-Or perfume.

-I don't think the ladies were allowed to use the telephone.

0:27:410:27:45

-Really?

-It was only the gentlemen that used it, yeah.

0:27:450:27:48

So obviously that is later.

0:27:480:27:51

This came from a Chinese restaurant in Southport.

0:27:510:27:54

But I mean anybody...

0:27:540:27:55

I think you'd have to be 45 or 50 to remember the press-button box.

0:27:550:28:00

-You would do, yes.

-Press A, it goes through.

0:28:000:28:02

-Press B, you get your money back.

-That's right, yes.

0:28:020:28:05

-Now do you use it at home?

-We used to,

0:28:050:28:07

but we've got so many other ICT gadgets, we prefer those now.

0:28:070:28:12

I think it's great, it brings back fantastic memories,

0:28:120:28:15

but it's also, as you say, a seriously rare object.

0:28:150:28:18

-It is, yeah.

-I haven't seen one since those days.

0:28:180:28:21

-You won't have done.

-And I won't have done.

-No.

0:28:210:28:23

So...which brings us onto the obvious Roadshow point,

0:28:230:28:26

you got it for £5, as an unwanted, abandoned object.

0:28:260:28:30

-Plus VAT.

-Oh, plus VAT. Um, what's it worth?

0:28:300:28:34

-You're the telephone specialist.

-I've no idea.

0:28:340:28:37

The Gilbert Scott ones were sold off for £300, £500, £700 and it

0:28:370:28:41

cost you that much to have it moved.

0:28:410:28:44

Um, if you're a real telephone fanatic, where are you going

0:28:440:28:47

to get another of these?

0:28:470:28:48

-You're not.

-You're not.

0:28:480:28:50

-No.

-So I'd have thought we must be talking £1,000

0:28:500:28:53

for sheer rarity, don't you?

0:28:530:28:56

-Yeah...

-And that's disregarding...

0:28:560:28:58

TELEPHONE RINGS

0:28:580:28:59

-Expecting a call?

-It must be for you.

0:28:590:29:02

Hello?

0:29:040:29:05

Not now, darling, we're working.

0:29:050:29:08

It was for me.

0:29:080:29:09

Right, good, good.

0:29:090:29:12

This picture, tell me a little bit about it.

0:29:120:29:15

This picture was drawn by a war artist of

0:29:150:29:19

the London Illustrated News.

0:29:190:29:22

The action took place in Villers-Bocage

0:29:220:29:25

and my father's regiment had recently taken quite a beating.

0:29:250:29:29

He was sent into the town, saw a number of German tanks,

0:29:290:29:33

decided that if he cut them off at either end of this road -

0:29:330:29:36

there were six or seven -

0:29:360:29:38

he would have them trapped.

0:29:380:29:39

And then, when they were well and truly trapped,

0:29:390:29:42

this one at the front here started to try and escape,

0:29:420:29:45

it started trying to blast the side of the house down,

0:29:450:29:48

from where he hoped to deliver a lethal blow

0:29:480:29:52

to the Firefly tank there

0:29:520:29:54

which was commanded by Sergeant Bobby Brammell.

0:29:540:29:58

-So this is your father's...

-This is one of his tanks.

0:29:580:30:01

-I see, right.

-At this time, my father was probably on foot

0:30:010:30:04

because he'd realised that it would be much better

0:30:040:30:07

if he tried to direct the operation on foot rather than in his tank,

0:30:070:30:11

and at the same time, it's worth mentioning, it was pouring with rain.

0:30:110:30:15

-Really?

-And he was very lucky to have an umbrella

0:30:150:30:18

and people often thought it rather funny that he was

0:30:180:30:21

directing some of this operation

0:30:210:30:23

underneath an umbrella,

0:30:230:30:24

and according to my father's diary

0:30:240:30:27

that he'd hastily written up that night,

0:30:270:30:29

his troop were lucky enough to manage to knock out, he thought,

0:30:290:30:33

seven German Tigers,

0:30:330:30:35

but that's all he says.

0:30:350:30:37

He just says, "We had a good day that afternoon.

0:30:370:30:39

"I think we got seven Tigers." He said no more than that.

0:30:390:30:43

Right, now we've got some treasured photographs of him here.

0:30:430:30:48

-Where's your father there?

-My father is there.

-Oh, the first one, here.

0:30:480:30:54

What was his rank and name?

0:30:540:30:56

When that picture was taken, he was a lieutenant,

0:30:560:30:59

his name was Leslie Cotton, but he was known as most people

0:30:590:31:02

by the name of Bill,

0:31:020:31:04

so to everybody he was Bill Cotton.

0:31:040:31:07

I notice he's wearing an Iron Cross 1st Class and I don't think he...

0:31:070:31:12

He must have picked that up on the way somewhere.

0:31:120:31:15

I don't think Hitler awarded that one.

0:31:150:31:18

No, but of course your father certainly was well decorated,

0:31:180:31:22

wasn't he?

0:31:220:31:24

Well, yes, he was, he won the MM when he was in the Western Desert

0:31:240:31:29

and as a result of this action, he won the MC.

0:31:290:31:33

Here we have this lovely group,

0:31:330:31:36

MC, MM,

0:31:360:31:39

39-45, Africa Star, bar, Italy,

0:31:390:31:45

France and Germany, Defence and War medal,

0:31:450:31:48

I mean, he was well used, wasn't he?

0:31:480:31:51

Yes, he was well used.

0:31:510:31:53

He actually joined the regiment a week before war broke out,

0:31:530:31:58

having answered an advertisement in the Daily Telegraph

0:31:580:32:01

asking gentlemen to attend a particular address in London

0:32:010:32:05

if they were interested in joining the regiment so he did that

0:32:050:32:08

and subsequently found himself in.

0:32:080:32:11

Now, this is quite an unusual combination.

0:32:110:32:14

If this was a Military Medal group,

0:32:140:32:19

we're looking at something in excess of £1,000 quite easily.

0:32:190:32:23

If it was a Military Cross group, without the MM, we're looking at

0:32:230:32:28

something like perhaps £1,500...

0:32:280:32:30

£2,000 perhaps.

0:32:300:32:34

But the combination of two and cavalry...well, and tanks,

0:32:340:32:40

-this group has a value of something like £5,000 or more.

-Really?

0:32:400:32:45

-Yeah, yeah.

-Because the magic is on the tanks, I feel.

-Yes, yeah, yeah.

0:32:450:32:50

And it doesn't demeanour any other's actions,

0:32:500:32:54

but, you know, its tank actions

0:32:540:32:56

are well regarded from the collecting fraternity.

0:32:560:33:00

So, you know, you've got a lovely group there.

0:33:000:33:05

My name is Mike Ormerod and that was taken in my days

0:33:050:33:09

with the Mecca ballroom circuit and that's taken at the

0:33:090:33:12

Locarno Ballroom in Burnley

0:33:120:33:14

where I worked as a disc jockey in the 1960s.

0:33:140:33:18

Right, there can't be many albums that run from Mrs Mills

0:33:180:33:22

right through to Jimi Hendrix.

0:33:220:33:23

Well, that's right and being a local DJ did give you an opportunity

0:33:230:33:28

to meet contacts who would get you backstage to see these artists.

0:33:280:33:33

So let's see what we've got here.

0:33:330:33:34

We've got the Rolling Stones.

0:33:340:33:37

You've got all five of the Rolling Stones at that period.

0:33:380:33:41

Yeah, I worked at Blackburn Locarno

0:33:410:33:43

and that autograph was signed when the Rolling Stones

0:33:430:33:46

-played at Blackburn Odeon Cinema on a tour in 1964.

-Really, '64?

0:33:460:33:52

-1964.

-And in fact, actually, what year is this one?

0:33:520:33:56

-That was 1966, that's two years later...

-Right.

0:33:560:33:59

..When I saw the Stones again at Chester ABC when they were on tour.

0:33:590:34:03

And you got Brian Jones to sign it again.

0:34:030:34:06

All five of them again, you know.

0:34:060:34:09

So you were a bit of a Stones fan? Or just anybody?

0:34:090:34:11

I liked everybody, but I did like the Stones

0:34:110:34:14

but I was brought up on rock 'n' roll.

0:34:140:34:15

-Right.

-I enjoyed the early rock 'n' roll guys, Little Richard

0:34:150:34:18

-and Fats Domino and Jerry Lee Lewis.

-They're all in here too.

-Yes.

0:34:180:34:21

And I love this.

0:34:210:34:23

You obviously got a bit carried away here with the Rolling Stones

0:34:230:34:26

because you've got on each page the Stones and you know, here,

0:34:260:34:30

here we've got Keith,

0:34:300:34:32

looks slightly better there than he does now.

0:34:320:34:34

-He's not worn well, has he?

-He's...

0:34:340:34:37

It's not a good advertisement for the rock 'n' roll lifestyle.

0:34:370:34:39

-No, no.

-It must have been exciting.

0:34:390:34:42

-It was.

-Jimi Hendrix, I mean...

-Nelson Imperial Ballroom.

-Was it?

0:34:420:34:47

Jimi Hendrix had a dressing room at the back of the stage

0:34:470:34:50

which consisted of a three-sided partition with no roof on

0:34:500:34:53

and just a little door into the thing,

0:34:530:34:57

slatted benches round three sides

0:34:570:35:00

and he was just sat there and I sat down next to him, got all those done.

0:35:000:35:04

Was he wearing his trademark jacket like that?

0:35:040:35:06

-Can you remember?

-He didn't have that on,

0:35:060:35:08

-because he hadn't got ready to go on stage at that point.

-Really?

0:35:080:35:11

-No, it was...

-But he had the time to write "Be groovy, Jimi Hendrix".

0:35:110:35:16

Oh, yeah, it was just after he released Purple Haze

0:35:160:35:18

as a single and he came on stage,

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everything went dark and they put the purple spotlight on him

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and he just struck up the initial chords and all the hairs

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on the back of me neck...

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I mean, there is so much but I must have a...

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In here, there is a couple more than I must have a look at.

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You've got... What have we got here?

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-Well, The Beatles, you know.

-Yeah.

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All four Beatles on a publicity shot,

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but how did you get this particular one?

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Backstage, King George's Hall, Blackburn.

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Right, it's a great photo, that one.

0:35:480:35:51

-And of course a BBC producer today, Paul Jones.

-Paul Jones.

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Does the blues programme on Thursday evenings or whatever it is.

0:35:550:36:00

-Yeah, I've met Paul about five times.

-Really?

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And had some nice chats to Paul.

0:36:020:36:05

Well, now, you've got...

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The ship's sinking

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and you've got to choose which page

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-you're going to keep out of all of this.

-Right, right.

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Which one would you keep?

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Well, there's two pages further on in that book

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that's got Jerry Lee Lewis,

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Little Richard, Fats Domino and Chuck Berry in,

0:36:210:36:24

but that one there...

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I know I've got The Beatles and I know I've got the Stones,

0:36:260:36:28

but with Jimi dedicating that, it's just got a special meaning.

0:36:280:36:32

I must say, if I could choose any of the pages,

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-I would probably choose the Hendrix page as well.

-Yeah.

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Now, the real challenge is what on earth is all this worth?

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It's very difficult to say because of course in this particular album

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you've got them all pasted in, but it is a...

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It is a complete record of the bands of the day.

0:36:510:36:56

Coupled with that, you've got this, which is, they're all loose

0:36:560:36:59

but there are some great ones in there, too.

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I've got loose ones of those as well.

0:37:010:37:03

-Of all these as well?

-Yeah.

-I haven't even seen those.

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Imagine what we've got here is all you've got.

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Right.

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With a Hendrix, one like this is probably worth £2,000.

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You've got The Rolling Stones album signed by all the five Stones,

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let's say £1,500 to £2,000.

0:37:210:37:23

You've got The Beatles here,

0:37:230:37:25

all four Beatles on a really nice photo there,

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that's going to be £1,500 plus.

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Um, and so on and so on and so on, and you know, just at a glance,

0:37:340:37:39

you must have somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000 worth

0:37:390:37:43

just here on the table.

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I need a bank vault, then, don't I?

0:37:450:37:48

Yeah, you do because it's just...wonderful.

0:37:480:37:52

We're always looking for interesting things in interesting places,

0:37:550:37:58

and interesting people.

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Welcome to the Paris of the North.

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-Where are you from?

-Barcelona.

0:38:020:38:04

-Barcelona?

-Barcelona.

-They have Lord Street and you have Las Ramblas.

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That's right. Oh, I think Las Ramblas

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is just as nice as Lord Street. Not nicer, but just as nice.

0:38:110:38:14

-That's the way to say it, diplomatic.

-Diplomatic.

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Why are you here?

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Because I am a fan of the Roadshow

0:38:180:38:20

and I've been following this programme for a long, long time

0:38:200:38:24

and I just wanted to be here and I have a girlfriend

0:38:240:38:28

who lives in Southport

0:38:280:38:30

and I said, "That's my time to go there and be with them."

0:38:300:38:32

-And here you are.

-Here I am.

-Nice to meet you, thank you.

-OK.

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And from Southport, goodbye.

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Adios, amigos de Roadshow! Adios!

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