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We've been drawn back to the bonnie banks of the Clyde

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for a second visit to Glasgow's Kelvingrove Museum and Art Gallery.

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Glaswegians are very fond of Kelvingrove.

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For one thing, it's free!

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It also seems to have a special attraction for courting couples,

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who come here and exchange childhood memories of the place.

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Later on, they bring their own children

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and then later on they bring theirs, and so it goes.

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And everyone seems to have their own favourite exhibit.

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Sir Roger the elephant has been a star of the place

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since the doors first opened in 1901.

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There are plenty of reminders of Glasgow's great names.

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This gallery celebrates architect and designer

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Charles Rennie Mackintosh,

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who created what became known the world over as the Glasgow Style.

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He not only produced some fine homes for his home town

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but he also designed what went in them.

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This display features a group of young tearaways

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known as the Glasgow Boys,

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who rocked the art world back in the late 19th century

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by turning their back on classical themes.

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They worked in the big outdoors

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and brought a natural realism to British painting.

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Kelvingrove recently reopened after three years of renovation

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costing £30m. There are some bold new exhibits,

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including this airborne display of faces made of fibreglass.

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And, back again after 13 years in exile,

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Salvador Dali's Christ of St John of the Cross,

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voted Scotland's favourite painting.

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No wonder this is just about

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the most popular cultural attraction in Britain,

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not counting the Antiques Roadshow, of course.

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A Scotchman with very nice knobbly knees...

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Frenchman...

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Englishman...

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And all kinds of other nationalities in presumably their national costume.

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Tyrolese, Persian, Arabian...

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And starting off here with a Sandwich Islander

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and that sort of gives us a clue,

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because the Sandwich Islands is actually what we know as Hawaii.

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-Ah.

-So this was before Hawaii was called Hawaii.

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But what goes with this is something else, which is a little tiny globe.

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That's the box that it comes out of.

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And on the globe are all the various countries,

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presumably, that these figures relate to.

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So what was your association with it?

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I inherited it from my aunt.

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She gave me a corner cupboard and that was in the corner cupboard

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and we always wondered how old it was.

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The first thing I do is to turn to Australia and see whether

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it's actually drawn in full, because on some early globes

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it's before they found out what was happening

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on the other side of Australia, and you only get half of it.

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Here it's been circumnavigated, so we know that it's after Cook's journeys.

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-But it's still called New Holland...

-Yes.

-..so that limits the date to,

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I would have thought,

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sort of 1810-1820, and if one looks -

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I'm just going to pop that back in its little box -

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if we look at the way that the Englishman was dressed here,

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-you can see he looks like a sort of Regency buck, doesn't he?

-Yes.

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-There's something of the Mr D'Arcy about him.

-Absolutely!

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So, you know, Jane Austen... Roughly the same period.

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Is it something that you've enjoyed looking at?

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Yes, it's something you bring out and show to friends

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and they say, "Where did you get it?"

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You say, "Well, it was in the corner cupboard!"

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-Anything else in that corner cupboard?

-Erm, yes.

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Oh, I can see you're going to wait

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until we come back to Glasgow again to show us what else is in there.

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I'll warn you before you come.

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Well, it's a valuable little thing.

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I mean, it's actually a game called The Earth And Its Inhabitants.

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And these little hand-coloured illustrations

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were intended, really, to help children to learn.

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I mean this was a time when children, for the first time,

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it was realised they could learn through play,

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and instead of learning by rote, they learnt through amusement.

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But it isn't just an amusement, because it's valuable too,

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and even though this is a tiny little globe

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and it's not in brilliant condition,

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I still think we're talking about between £500 and £800.

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I beg your pardon?!

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Oh, I...

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I'm speechless!

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I think this little jug bears quite close inspection.

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Do you know why?

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I think possibly something to do with the date on the handle.

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-There is a date on the handle.

-Yes, it's fairly old.

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Moulded in relief on the handle.

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And what does that date say?

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-1591.

-Well, I think...

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Yes, I'm not... It's whether it's '91 or '71...

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I mean you can't possibly believe that this jug was made in 1571?

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I know. I find it difficult to believe.

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Cos that would make it 435 years old.

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-Wow!

-That would be quite something!

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It would indeed, yeah. Because of the workmanship in it too.

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-It's amazing.

-It's wonderful.

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-Mm.

-You've got this sort of bellied form, I suppose, a globular form,

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which is I think moulded with flutes that have then been cut at angles.

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Cut out each one.

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-It's almost like sort of diamond-cut glass. It's fantastic.

-Uh-huh.

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It's a stoneware body, so it's a really hard, white body.

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That's wonderful as well, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-It's got a silver mount on it. It's got rather tarnished.

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But you've had it for some time?

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Yeah, it came into the family through a great-aunt...

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-Right.

-..of my husband's.

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-Right.

-And it's been there ever since.

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Well, I'm very, very pleased to tell you that 1571, it really is.

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-Gosh, that's wonderful.

-It's 435 years old.

-Wow!

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Isn't that lovely?

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-It is.

-I mean, just a great thing to find at the Roadshow.

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-Lovely.

-And these stoneware jugs were made in Germany.

-Mm.

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And there were three major potting centres.

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There is an example recorded with initials IM on it,

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which may stand for a man called Johann Mennicken,

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and Mennicken worked at Raeren.

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-Right.

-So it's likely, since the jug is very similar to this,

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that it's Raeren.

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-I think that's just a magnificent, important object.

-Thank you!

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And valuation is really, erm, a lesson in the art of comparison

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and there's not really an awful lot that's been sold

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-in the recent past...

-No.

-..that I can compare this directly with.

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If I was feeling mean, I'd say it was worth

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-between £4,000 and £5,000.

-Mm!

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If I was feeling a bit more optimistic and knowing,

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you know, that sort of auction price,

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something as rare and unusual as this could go on.

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-Two people want it, it might even make twice that.

-Mm, we don't know.

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Somewhere in that region. So just a wonderful find.

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Thank you.

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One of the loveliest things I've seen on the Roadshow.

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-It's gorgeous.

-Thank you very much.

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'Good, thank you.'

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Now I don't want to be patronising to all you Scots here today,

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but I really look forward to coming to this part of the world,

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Glasgow in particular, because I've got a fascination

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with the decorative arts that were happening here,

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you know, in the 1890s, 1900.

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And of course the big name, goes without saying,

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is Charles Rennie Mackintosh.

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And let's not forget his wife, Margaret Macdonald.

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But you've brought along a few objects today

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which sort of help redress the picture a little bit,

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because there's more to the Glasgow Style than Mackintosh.

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A case in point... One very interesting chair, two planters.

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Are you a Glasgow School collector?

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No, but my wife was very keen on the Glasgow Style.

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Her name interestingly was Margaret Mackintosh.

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-She was originally Sinclair.

-Oh, was she?

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But this was left to my wife and we were told that possibly

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it had come... It certainly had come from her Great-Aunt Net,

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who was the sort of matriarch of the family,

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and died at 97 about 20 years ago.

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Oh, right. What's interesting is,

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I was looking at a very similar chair less than a year ago

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and so it didn't come as a surprise when you brought it through the door.

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-Ah.

-It's a wonderful shape.

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It goes by the name of a caqueteuse, which is a French term

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which goes back 17th century and beyond.

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The focal point is the panel,

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and you've got this Art Nouveau maiden,

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I mean, I think it's a commercial design.

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She's got her gown open and it's filled with flowers,

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her hair en chignon, to use a term.

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The outfit she's wearing

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you could probably have bought from Liberty's,

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or its equivalent in this part of the world.

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But just the shape of it, it's got a sense of movement,

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it's got this nice little leaf motif there.

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-Yes, it's lovely.

-And exactly who made it, I can't tell you,

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but one thing I do know is that it's a nice, attractive-looking

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piece of furniture that a lot of people would want to own.

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The one that I saw turned up at auction

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and if memory serves, it made in the region of £900.

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-OK.

-If one could have put a name to it, you know,

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Mackintosh, or dare I say, Walton...

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-and I don't think it's George Walton...

-Right.

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..erm, then obviously up goes the value.

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It's all in a name and that's true with your two planters,

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erm, because this one, if we can go down -

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let's get down on bended knee -

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is quite typical Glasgow Style.

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It's got a rose that might be seen as a typical Glasgow rose -

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I won't call it a Mackintosh rose, let's call it Glasgow -

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but no signature as such.

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But this one is a bit more special.

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I love this design, with this tree and this rising...

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-And these little song birds.

-Yes.

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-I think what we've got here, I think we've got the dawn chorus.

-Oh, right.

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OK? Whereas we turn it on its side, we've got the sun going down,

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or it may be the other way round, I'm not sure.

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But what is special is this lovely maiden with long flowing tresses,

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erm... Very stylish, and this is what's quite special.

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MG... Margaret Gilmour.

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And the Gilmour sisters, you know, relatively unsung heroes

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outside this fair city of Glasgow.

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They were operating from 1893 to about the 1940s

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and making this type of brassware.

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Value wise, unsigned, probably in the region of...

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£400 to £500,

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but because this one is signed, I think probably nearer to

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£600, maybe £700 or thereabouts.

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But it's all in a name.

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Thank you very much.

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There's a special trick to this.

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You might think you could just pull that open,

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but you have to slide this...

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-..and up it comes.

-Very ingenious.

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And you have a magnificent key and a lot of effort

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and once you open it you've got all these...

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Whoa! Look at that!

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So what does it say here?

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The date we have is 1731 and what this says,

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basically, is, "May God protect the old and bring them wealth."

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-And it's in German?

-In German.

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The history of these is they were called Armada chests

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and literally from sort of 16C onwards,

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and they were used to carry your wealth around

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and usually they're big -

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I mean, they're sort of 4ft, 5ft long - hugely heavy.

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-Right.

-But quite often with the same sort of elaborate lock

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but of course the thing on the front here

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is the fake.

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And that's absolutely standard to have the hole at the front,

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where you think it's going to be,

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and have the real lock plate actually disguised.

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I'm going to be honest,

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-I think it's a little bit too good to be true.

-Uh-huh.

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Because all the other ones of these that I've seen,

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this iron lock plate has usually been pierced,

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but more importantly, the date, 1731,

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-is NOT the period in which they were making these.

-Right.

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Also, this little coat of arms here, with the little stars,

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that is entirely specious.

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It's like someone's idea of what a coat of arms would look like.

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-What a pity!

-So it is fantastic quality,

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all made in wrought iron, all of this blueing or annealing,

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an awful lot of effort has gone into this,

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with all of these individual lock plates.

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The other thing is, looking at the key...

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..on the real ones of these, the key is incredibly elaborate.

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Y'know, this has basically got to tumble

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the number of locking devices inside, so it had to be very elaborate.

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That is very, very simple, so what I think this is,

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is I think it's a 19th century copy.

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If I was going to say "fake"

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that would actually be being a little bit cruel,

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but it sort of is, because the date on it is not right.

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And I think it was probably made in the 1880s in Germany.

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But in a way, for me, it's actually more interesting

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because it's not right.

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For me as well, from what you're saying.

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It still does have not inconsiderable value. What do you think?

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£400 or so?

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I think we could fill it up with a bit more money than that.

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-Oh, good, good.

-No, I could see someone certainly giving...

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-£1,000, £1,500.

-Really?

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And I think for insurance, you'd actually probably want to insure that

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for probably £2,500 because I haven't seen one before.

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You're not going to find another one.

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I LOVE watching historical dramas on TV and one of my favourite series

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was an incredibly popular one called Sharpe.

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Very popular television series

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of the swashbuckling Captain Richard Sharpe who fought

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during the Peninsular Wars, the Napoleonic period, and in India,

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and the rifle that he carried, famously, was the Baker rifle,

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-and you've got one.

-That's right, yeah.

-Tell me where you got it from.

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I bought it from a dealer in Pennsylvania.

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I'd been looking for a good ordnance issue Baker

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for some years and eventually I settled on this one.

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And why this one in particular?

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Because it's... It was issued...

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It's the version that was issued to the British Army.

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That's an 1805 pattern.

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-The very early... Yes.

-Very early one.

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Well, Ezekiel Baker was invited along with a number of other gun makers

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to produce the first rifled longarm that was used by the British services

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and he was successful in the outcome of the trials,

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so it's a very, very important object in the development of firearms

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because it is a rifled gun.

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And before this, of course, we were using a smoothbore gun,

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a long arm, and that would be very quick to load, very easy to load,

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but wouldn't be terribly accurate.

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This, of course, is rifled, and that rifling puts a spin on the bullet...

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-Yes.

-..which makes it much more accurate at longer distances.

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Now, one of the important things with any antique,

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is the condition, of course, not only, with this type of object,

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the external condition, but the inside of the barrel as well,

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what's called the bore.

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And I have - I always carry it -

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a bore light, which is a little light small enough to slip down the barrel.

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Now I've checked this earlier to make sure it's unloaded.

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I wouldn't do this if it was, obviously.

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-No, of course not.

-So we'll pop this bore light down the barrel

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and it's quite safe now to look inside the barrel,

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to have a look at the condition, and it is absolutely superb.

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You can see the twist of the rifling, and it's marvellous. Want a look?

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I've never seen the internal, so...

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It's very reassuring to see there's no corrosion.

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-You've never seen it?

-No.

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-You bought this without looking?

-I'm afraid so!

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Externally it's fine, but it's reassuring to know that.

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It really is good, and it's fascinating to see

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the twist of that rifling, because you don't often see that.

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-It's not a view you regularly get.

-No, it's not terribly pronounced.

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It's not as severe as some people might imagine it would be.

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Mm. The Baker rifle is a rare rifle.

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I've got a volunteer version of this and I paid,

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what, three... Some years ago,

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I paid £5,500 for mine and it's not in as good condition.

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This is in really super condition,

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and long may you continue to collect, but only -

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-if you can afford to - items in good condition.

-Yes, yes. That's the key.

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I feel like Goldilocks here, with the three bears.

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We've got Daddy bear, Mummy bear, Baby bear.

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That's correct, yes.

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And all looking very surprised with their mouths open in astonishment.

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Wonderful expressions on them.

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When was your first memory of them?

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When I was about three-and-a-half, to four,

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I was given them as a present by my father.

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I'd been very ill and this was sort of a get-well present.

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You were given all three of them?

0:18:160:18:17

Yes... Well actually,

0:18:170:18:19

I got the big one first and then the other two

0:18:190:18:22

came as a surprise afterwards, so we had the family.

0:18:220:18:25

-But there actually was a fourth.

-Which is?

0:18:250:18:27

But we only have three today.

0:18:270:18:29

-Where's the fourth?

-The fourth one was eaten by my dog!

0:18:290:18:32

-I hope it got indigestion!

-Sorry! Sorry!

0:18:340:18:36

-Erm, they're in nice condition, the ones that survived the dog.

-Yes.

0:18:360:18:42

And I do love this long shaggy pile,

0:18:420:18:45

and they were actually only invented by Steiff in the very early '50s,

0:18:450:18:51

about 1951, and they were called Zottys,

0:18:510:18:55

which is a shortening of the German word "zottig", which means shaggy.

0:18:550:18:58

-Yes, right.

-So, they were called shaggy bears in German.

0:18:580:19:01

I didn't know that... Lovely!

0:19:010:19:03

And it was the first time really that these open-mouthed,

0:19:030:19:07

-rather astonished looking bears, were made commercially.

-Yes, they are.

0:19:070:19:11

And they were an instant hit, because of course

0:19:110:19:14

they look very different to all the other bears...

0:19:140:19:16

-Yes, to all the ordinary bears.

-..around at the time.

0:19:160:19:19

-Um, so what are three little bears worth? Well, obviously...

-No idea.

0:19:190:19:25

..they range in value depending on the size.

0:19:250:19:28

I suppose the largest one is going to be in the region of £500 at auction.

0:19:280:19:35

-Really?

-And then, going down, I suppose...

0:19:350:19:37

£300, £200... You've got the best part of £1,000 here.

0:19:370:19:41

I'm surprised actually, because I really didn't think

0:19:410:19:43

they'd be that valuable because I didn't think they were old enough,

0:19:430:19:47

to be honest with you. That's a nice surprise.

0:19:470:19:49

Well, this is a familiar scene and an impressive photograph

0:19:560:19:59

-but a poignant story.

-It is.

0:19:590:20:01

This photograph was taken on the steps of this art gallery

0:20:010:20:05

and it's the boys and leaders of the first Glasgow Scout Troop in 1914,

0:20:050:20:09

before the outbreak of the First World War.

0:20:090:20:13

They were all commissioned as officers.

0:20:130:20:15

The military were very keen on having scouts enlisted

0:20:150:20:18

because they had good leadership skills,

0:20:180:20:20

but sadly of the 32 who enlisted, only three returned.

0:20:200:20:23

So many of these young fellows in this photograph would have perished?

0:20:230:20:27

Perished in the First World War, yes.

0:20:270:20:30

And I'm now very proud to be the Scout Leader of this troop.

0:20:300:20:33

So the quality of young people involved now,

0:20:330:20:35

is the same as we see here in 1914?

0:20:350:20:37

The enthusiasm is always high for Scouts and Cubs.

0:20:370:20:41

The story of that is about ten years ago,

0:20:410:20:44

my wife was out on a Sunday on Clydeside

0:20:440:20:47

and she went into a store that was there and she actually found it.

0:20:470:20:51

-Just like that?

-Just like that, yes.

-For not very much money, I'm sure.

0:20:510:20:54

-Actually, 12p.

-12p, wow.

0:20:540:20:56

Yeah, 12p, indeed.

0:20:560:20:57

Obviously it's a tea caddy spoon, you know, for serving the tea.

0:20:570:21:01

-OK.

-The important thing on it is the name.

0:21:010:21:04

Here we've got Stuart Cranston.

0:21:040:21:06

-OK.

-It was Miss Cranston who set up the tea rooms

0:21:060:21:09

-that Rennie Mackintosh designed.

-Right.

0:21:090:21:12

So in a sense it was Miss Cranston

0:21:120:21:14

-who launched Rennie Mackintosh on his global career...

-Oh, right.

0:21:140:21:18

..as, you know, one of the great men of the 20th century in terms of design.

0:21:180:21:22

In those days, we're talking 1900, 1910,

0:21:220:21:25

where could ladies go out and meet their friends and chat?

0:21:250:21:29

Tea shops were completely safe, so Glasgow was the centre

0:21:290:21:32

of the tea shop trade, where ladies could go and meet their friends.

0:21:320:21:36

And the success of Mackintosh was that Miss Cranston wanted

0:21:360:21:39

-to set up this chain of tea shops.

-Right.

0:21:390:21:41

Now Stuart Cranston, who we have here, he was her brother,

0:21:410:21:45

who, in a sense, was a rival, and he also had tea shops.

0:21:450:21:48

He was a tea importer.

0:21:480:21:50

-Right.

-He didn't employ Mackintosh.

0:21:500:21:53

So although Mackintosh did have teaspoons in his tea shops

0:21:530:21:56

-which he designed sometimes...

-Yes, right.

0:21:560:21:58

..they were not the same as this.

0:21:580:22:00

-OK.

-They've got the Cranston name, but the other side of the family.

0:22:000:22:03

-Right, OK.

-Do you use it?

0:22:030:22:04

-No, erm...

-Not in the tea caddy?

0:22:040:22:06

Not in the tea caddy, no. It's just been sitting there.

0:22:060:22:09

-I think you should. This is Glasgow history.

-OK.

0:22:090:22:12

Every time you tip the tea out,

0:22:120:22:14

-think of the Cranstons. They made Glasgow what it was.

-Fantastic.

0:22:140:22:18

How much would you say for it, you know?

0:22:180:22:21

Well, 12p was a reasonable price.

0:22:210:22:23

I think, because of the Cranston name,

0:22:230:22:26

-it's more likely to be £20 or £30.

-£30.

0:22:260:22:28

-OK, fantastic.

-So jolly good buy.

0:22:280:22:30

Thanks, I appreciate it. Thank you.

0:22:300:22:32

This is an amazing gold box.

0:22:340:22:37

I love it for three particular reasons but the first is,

0:22:370:22:41

the remarkable quality of the engineering work here.

0:22:410:22:45

You bought it... Why did you buy it?

0:22:450:22:47

I... My wife saw it and we both loved it

0:22:470:22:50

and it combines a number of my interests

0:22:500:22:53

in clocks, watches, musical boxes...

0:22:530:22:56

And I just thought it was a treasure.

0:22:560:22:58

Well, certainly a treasure.

0:22:580:23:00

First, it's gold, high quality gold.

0:23:000:23:04

Secondly, when you first look at it,

0:23:040:23:06

it looks like a miniature book.

0:23:060:23:07

You wouldn't think it was anything more than just

0:23:070:23:10

maybe a little snuff box or something like that.

0:23:100:23:12

Then you look very carefully at it and you notice

0:23:120:23:15

that it's heightened with blue enamel,

0:23:150:23:17

but exquisitely done. I mean, to do enamelling like that

0:23:170:23:21

takes a huge amount of technical skills,

0:23:210:23:25

so it speaks quality, that's why I first of all like it.

0:23:250:23:28

And then you think, "Oh, well, it's just a snuff box."

0:23:280:23:30

But it's not, is it?

0:23:300:23:31

You open it up and what have you got inside?

0:23:310:23:34

Well, obviously you've got a mechanism for telling the time,

0:23:340:23:37

again quite unusual for any snuff box like this,

0:23:370:23:40

but the giveaway is this musical notation.

0:23:400:23:44

I've never seen that. And then under here

0:23:440:23:48

is a remarkably early musical movement.

0:23:480:23:51

Now you'll see it has some marks on the side here

0:23:510:23:54

which are the gold marks,

0:23:540:23:55

and from that's from a Geneva maker around about 1812, 1815.

0:23:550:24:00

This is probably one of the smallest, certainly,

0:24:000:24:03

and one of the earliest boxes we've ever seen on the Roadshow.

0:24:030:24:07

The market is very, very strong.

0:24:070:24:09

There are lots of international collectors

0:24:090:24:12

for such early and rare pieces.

0:24:120:24:13

You're probably talking about a value of

0:24:130:24:16

between £10,000 and £12,000 today.

0:24:160:24:18

Really? Wow. My wife's taste is spot on.

0:24:180:24:23

-So it's all down to her?

-Yes.

0:24:230:24:26

MUSICAL BOX PLAYS DELICATE TUNE

0:24:260:24:30

DEEP TONE VIBRATES

0:24:300:24:34

It's a most extraordinary sound.

0:24:390:24:42

Sort of...

0:24:420:24:43

almost tenor.

0:24:430:24:46

It's supposed to call people to the temple to pray.

0:24:470:24:50

And where was that one made?

0:24:520:24:53

This particular one was made in Japan,

0:24:530:24:57

we think around about the 1930s

0:24:570:25:00

because all the inscriptions on the baton...

0:25:000:25:03

This will go for about three minutes.

0:25:030:25:06

But the baton inscription and underneath says it's from the 1930s.

0:25:060:25:10

So what made you collect singing bowls?

0:25:100:25:13

I read a newspaper article about 40 years ago

0:25:140:25:17

about singing bowls and I wondered what they were,

0:25:170:25:21

and I eventually found one to practise with

0:25:210:25:24

and started to collect them for about 40 years now,

0:25:240:25:28

and just built up a collection of all kinds,

0:25:280:25:30

mainly Himalayan bowls, Tibetan bowls...

0:25:300:25:33

-Yes.

-..but these are Japanese bowls and they are quite rare to find

0:25:330:25:39

and a much more full sound than even the Himalayan ones.

0:25:390:25:45

This one I think is probably much earlier than this,

0:25:450:25:48

and I think probably mid 19th century.

0:25:480:25:50

I rather like the striped decoration.

0:25:500:25:52

It's all been beaten out by hand.

0:25:520:25:54

BOWL HUMS There she blows!

0:26:020:26:05

Used for meditation...

0:26:070:26:09

-You won't fall asleep doing that, will you?

-No!

0:26:100:26:13

That is extraordinary, isn't it?

0:26:170:26:19

Now, the most intriguing, I think, is probably this one.

0:26:190:26:23

In 40 years I've never seen anything like it,

0:26:230:26:26

because it's a very big one to start but the quality of the sound

0:26:260:26:30

is really second to none. Even if we just hit it...

0:26:300:26:33

..and it starts to rise and fall with the actual sound.

0:26:350:26:39

That is amazing. Now there's an inscription round here.

0:26:390:26:43

The inscription, which is in old kanji...

0:26:430:26:46

Dear, oh, dear!

0:26:460:26:47

A little bit of an electric shock.

0:26:470:26:49

I wasn't expecting that, but the inscription round the edge...

0:26:490:26:53

Yes, the inscription, which of course would be read

0:26:530:26:56

from right to left, it does translate as,

0:26:560:27:00

"Presented by Tokugawa Ieyasu

0:27:000:27:04

"to the Horyuji Temple in the year 1600."

0:27:040:27:08

And the Horyuji Temple is the oldest of wooden structures in the world,

0:27:080:27:14

-dating back to about, approximately about

-1300. Gosh.

0:27:140:27:17

How did it come out of Japan?

0:27:170:27:20

Well, that worries me! I don't know.

0:27:200:27:23

Because at one level I've never heard anything like this

0:27:230:27:26

and it has a wonderful sound.

0:27:260:27:28

It takes a little while to build...

0:27:320:27:34

It's coming.

0:27:370:27:38

DEEP BASS TONE RESONATES

0:27:380:27:42

That is amazing!

0:27:420:27:43

I've just never come across this.

0:27:440:27:48

That deep, deep tone.

0:27:480:27:49

Yeah, it's very special.

0:27:490:27:51

Horyuji Temple has a wonderful collection of Buddhist antiques

0:27:520:27:57

and I would have liked to have found out

0:27:570:28:00

whether in fact it was part of that collection.

0:28:000:28:03

-Well, it's a very religious noise, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:28:030:28:05

They've all got lovely religious noises.

0:28:050:28:08

Now, tell me how much you've paid for these, cos I have no idea.

0:28:080:28:11

Well, I went into auction recently and paid £300 for this.

0:28:110:28:14

The point was, the people who were bidding against me

0:28:140:28:17

just liked the sound and just wanted...

0:28:170:28:19

But they didn't know what it was,

0:28:190:28:21

and it was put down as being Chinese lettering.

0:28:210:28:24

And what d'you pay for these little ones?

0:28:240:28:26

Erm, well this one here I bought about 35 years ago, so it wasn't...

0:28:260:28:30

-I think I paid £16 for it.

-Yes.

0:28:300:28:33

This one here, conversely, was £750,

0:28:330:28:36

and I bought that from a Japanese dealer in New York.

0:28:360:28:40

Well, this is a new one for me.

0:28:400:28:42

I thoroughly enjoy ethnographic arts and craft

0:28:420:28:45

and all those sort of things, but this is absolutely intriguing.

0:28:450:28:49

-Can you play us out?

-Of course.

0:28:490:28:51

BOWL HUMS

0:28:570:29:00

What a tankard!

0:29:090:29:11

Now that is...quite something.

0:29:110:29:15

What can you tell me about it?

0:29:150:29:16

Well, the armorial bearings are the bearings of the Fleming family

0:29:160:29:22

-of Killiechassie, which is a house on the Tay in Perthshire.

-Right.

0:29:220:29:26

And when Killiechassie went out with the Prince in 1745,

0:29:260:29:32

he buried his silver and he survived the campaign

0:29:320:29:36

but was taken prisoner after Culloden

0:29:360:29:38

and he was corralled with a lot of other Highlanders

0:29:380:29:43

and the dragoon in charge of them said in the middle of the afternoon,

0:29:430:29:47

"Does anyone know what the time is?"

0:29:470:29:49

and he took, not thinking, out from under his plaid, his gold watch.

0:29:490:29:54

Ah... A mistake!

0:29:540:29:56

The dragoon said, "You aren't who you're pretending to be

0:29:560:29:59

"but I'm a sporting man, I'll give you an hour to make your escape."

0:29:590:30:02

Which he successfully did and he went to the continent,

0:30:020:30:07

where I imagine he earned his living as a mercenary soldier,

0:30:070:30:11

till about 1780, when he was pardoned

0:30:110:30:13

and the estates restored to him, and he came back and amazingly,

0:30:130:30:17

there was the silver where he'd buried it!

0:30:170:30:19

Right, now it's interesting, his return at that time,

0:30:190:30:22

-because the armorial there...

-Yes.

-..is not as early as the tankard.

0:30:220:30:27

-Right.

-And actually would date to somewhere around 1790 or so.

0:30:270:30:31

-Oh, right.

-So perhaps on his return he had it engraved.

-Yes, yes.

0:30:310:30:36

-Now, what we've actually got here are Edinburgh hallmarks.

-Yes.

0:30:360:30:41

-The maker's mark, which we can see there, TK...

-Yes.

0:30:410:30:45

..that's a chap called Thomas Kerr.

0:30:450:30:48

-Yes.

-Now, he started work in the 1690s.

0:30:480:30:51

-Right.

-And just over there, there is a date letter.

0:30:510:30:54

There's enough there to know what it is, and it's 1703.

0:30:540:30:58

-Right.

-But these Edinburgh tankards,

0:30:580:31:01

these Scottish tankards of this period, are absolutely stunning.

0:31:010:31:05

-That lid... That's what's known as cut-card work.

-Yes.

0:31:050:31:09

-Very distinctly Scottish as well. A finial on a tankard...

-Right.

0:31:090:31:14

-..you rarely see in England.

-Right.

0:31:140:31:16

-And it's very common in Scotland.

-Yes.

0:31:160:31:18

And there's another thing, that even without looking at a hallmark,

0:31:180:31:22

you would know that this would be Scottish,

0:31:220:31:24

-and that's the way the thumb piece has been done.

-Oh, right.

0:31:240:31:27

-Now, if this were an English one, that would just stand up.

-Ah, right.

0:31:270:31:33

-But this has... Can you see that second little piece there?

-Yes, yes.

0:31:330:31:37

-The two things together scream Scotland at you.

-Right.

0:31:370:31:41

And look just next to the handle...

0:31:410:31:43

I mean, just that little, almost like a flame...

0:31:430:31:46

Oh, it really is quite something.

0:31:460:31:50

And actually this is fascinating in here as well.

0:31:500:31:54

-"The Fleming tankard"?

-Yes.

0:31:570:31:59

I love the bit at the end of this, actually...

0:31:590:32:01

"This piece is probably pretty valuable."

0:32:010:32:06

I think that's gorgeous! I think that's absolutely super!

0:32:060:32:10

So...a rare - and it is rare -

0:32:100:32:13

there are only a few of these in existence.

0:32:130:32:16

I think what we've got to be looking at here is...

0:32:160:32:21

in excess of £25,000.

0:32:210:32:24

Right. It's insured for 15.

0:32:240:32:26

-That is not enough.

-Not enough, right.

0:32:260:32:28

-I think you should insure it for about £35,000, possibly £40,000.

-Yes.

0:32:280:32:35

-Gosh!

-It would be an extraordinarily difficult piece to replace.

0:32:350:32:39

Yes, yes.

0:32:390:32:42

We had some work done on the roof some years ago

0:32:430:32:47

and the joiner came down and said,

0:32:470:32:49

-GLASWEGIAN ACCENT:

-"Your attic's in a terrible state.

0:32:490:32:52

"There's a lot of rubbish pressing on your beams

0:32:520:32:55

"and they're gonnae go if you don't get something done."

0:32:550:32:58

-Right.

-So I went up and there was bags of soot and lead and all that,

0:32:580:33:01

and among the things were this embroidery

0:33:010:33:04

and, in a sort of cardboard scroll, there was this drawing.

0:33:040:33:07

OK, let me just move in on this,

0:33:070:33:10

because it is part of this Glasgow story, and when thinking about,

0:33:100:33:17

you know, the Glasgow School of Art and the activities there,

0:33:170:33:20

needlework was one of the foremost disciplines.

0:33:200:33:24

And there you had the likes of Jessie Newbery

0:33:240:33:28

and you'd also got Ann Macbeth...

0:33:280:33:32

these are big names as far as the Glasgow Girls are concerned.

0:33:320:33:36

-Everybody talks about the Glasgow Boys...

-I've heard of them, but...

0:33:360:33:40

Well, the Glasgow Girls... Listen,

0:33:400:33:42

we're here to try and make sure that we put them on the map.

0:33:420:33:45

I mean, they're already on the map...

0:33:450:33:47

But when you come across something like this...

0:33:470:33:50

I am not 100% certain who actually was responsible.

0:33:500:33:53

What I DO know is that they were gifted.

0:33:530:33:56

I suppose when it comes to date,

0:33:560:33:59

we're looking somewhere let's say around about 1900, 1905,

0:33:590:34:04

it could be as late as 1910.

0:34:040:34:06

And what I do know...

0:34:060:34:07

This is the most wonderful composition,

0:34:070:34:10

because you've got these lovely daisy flowers here.

0:34:100:34:12

There's a symmetry there and yet there's a movement there.

0:34:120:34:18

So you've got these flowers and then

0:34:180:34:20

these lovely sort of spear shaped leaves

0:34:200:34:24

on these lovely, long slender stems, and then this wonderful sort of bowl,

0:34:240:34:29

if you will, of swirling flowers.

0:34:290:34:33

If you can just home in on, let's just say, one leaf here...

0:34:330:34:38

The amount of work that's gone into making that is quite incredible.

0:34:380:34:41

I am not certain as to what it's worth, quite frankly,

0:34:410:34:46

but when I look at something like that, I think,

0:34:460:34:48

if I saw that and I could buy it for £500, I'd snap it up.

0:34:480:34:52

If it was £1,000... Well, I'd have to ask me wife... Are you with me?

0:34:520:34:56

OK, and then you find this, in the same, obviously, in your loft.

0:34:560:35:01

Yes, you see it was rolled up in a scroll, you can see.

0:35:010:35:04

I wondered whether I should iron it.

0:35:040:35:06

-No!

-But I decided not to.

-No, don't iron it! OK, well...

0:35:060:35:09

OK! So...it's all in the initials, isn't it? CRM.

0:35:090:35:15

-Oh, yes.

-Charles Rennie Mackintosh.

0:35:150:35:19

-Well, that wouldn't be by him though, would it?

-Well, why not?

0:35:190:35:23

Why not?

0:35:230:35:25

-There's every reason and I'll tell you why.

-Really?

0:35:250:35:27

The date...1891. Now, in 1890 Mackintosh won an exhibition

0:35:270:35:35

for, erm... a drawing for a public building

0:35:350:35:41

and...he was given £60

0:35:410:35:43

as a prize towards a sketching trip which he decided to take in Italy.

0:35:430:35:49

So he set off at the end of March, in 1891,

0:35:490:35:54

and he returned three months later.

0:35:540:35:57

We have a date, 1891, and I see that he's actually titled it,

0:35:570:36:02

"The Latern, Rome".

0:36:020:36:04

Around about 10 or 12 years ago, about a hundred of these sketches

0:36:040:36:10

turned up on the market and so we do have something of a precedent,

0:36:100:36:14

but what is exciting for me is that I'm, you know, I'm just...

0:36:140:36:19

this distance away from this great man.

0:36:190:36:23

I've been looking at Mackintosh's work for the best part of 30 years.

0:36:230:36:27

He's still an enigma to me but here he is in his early days.

0:36:270:36:30

He's still a draughtsman-designer,

0:36:300:36:33

he's working for Honeyman and Keppie here in the city.

0:36:330:36:36

It's before his glory days, but he did have such a careful eye

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and it's this attention to detail and balanced design

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that just made him, you know, one of the great master architects

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of the late 19th and early 20th century.

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So it's in the loft, it's here today, it's right as rain.

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I mean if I want, if I go into a gallery to buy this today,

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it's somewhere, let's say, between perhaps £2,000 and £3,000.

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And you think it is Charles Rennie Mackintosh?

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I do.

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I do.

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And you know, I always hesitate before I stick my neck out

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but I've got no reason to doubt it whatsoever.

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It just begs the question at the moment,

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"What else is lurking in your attic?"

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I'm afraid it's all been cleared out and it's all on the skip.

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It's mostly bags of soot, though.

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It's all right, Eric! I'm sure there wasn't anything else.

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It's just the idea of that skip!

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Anyway...it's a great textile and could I have asked for more

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than an original Mackintosh sketch?

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Bring on a few Argyle Street room chairs and maybe, you know,

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I'll be dreaming, but you've made me a very happy man in Glasgow.

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Excellent.

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The idea behind the European City of Culture Award

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is to bring all the peoples of Europe together

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and I think most of them have come together here

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at Kelvingrove Museum and Art Gallery.

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It's been a great pleasure spending time in this wonderful place.

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Until the next time, from Glasgow, goodbye.

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