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We've been drawn back to the bonnie banks of the Clyde | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
for a second visit to Glasgow's Kelvingrove Museum and Art Gallery. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
Glaswegians are very fond of Kelvingrove. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
For one thing, it's free! | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
It also seems to have a special attraction for courting couples, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
who come here and exchange childhood memories of the place. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Later on, they bring their own children | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and then later on they bring theirs, and so it goes. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
And everyone seems to have their own favourite exhibit. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
Sir Roger the elephant has been a star of the place | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
since the doors first opened in 1901. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
There are plenty of reminders of Glasgow's great names. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
This gallery celebrates architect and designer | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Charles Rennie Mackintosh, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
who created what became known the world over as the Glasgow Style. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
He not only produced some fine homes for his home town | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
but he also designed what went in them. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
This display features a group of young tearaways | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
known as the Glasgow Boys, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
who rocked the art world back in the late 19th century | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
by turning their back on classical themes. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
They worked in the big outdoors | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
and brought a natural realism to British painting. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Kelvingrove recently reopened after three years of renovation | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
costing £30m. There are some bold new exhibits, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
including this airborne display of faces made of fibreglass. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
And, back again after 13 years in exile, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Salvador Dali's Christ of St John of the Cross, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
voted Scotland's favourite painting. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
No wonder this is just about | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
the most popular cultural attraction in Britain, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
not counting the Antiques Roadshow, of course. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
A Scotchman with very nice knobbly knees... | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Frenchman... | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
Englishman... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
And all kinds of other nationalities in presumably their national costume. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
Tyrolese, Persian, Arabian... | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
And starting off here with a Sandwich Islander | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
and that sort of gives us a clue, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
because the Sandwich Islands is actually what we know as Hawaii. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
-Ah. -So this was before Hawaii was called Hawaii. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
But what goes with this is something else, which is a little tiny globe. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:05 | |
That's the box that it comes out of. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
And on the globe are all the various countries, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
presumably, that these figures relate to. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
So what was your association with it? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
I inherited it from my aunt. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
She gave me a corner cupboard and that was in the corner cupboard | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
and we always wondered how old it was. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
The first thing I do is to turn to Australia and see whether | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
it's actually drawn in full, because on some early globes | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
it's before they found out what was happening | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
on the other side of Australia, and you only get half of it. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
Here it's been circumnavigated, so we know that it's after Cook's journeys. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
-But it's still called New Holland... -Yes. -..so that limits the date to, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
I would have thought, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
sort of 1810-1820, and if one looks - | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
I'm just going to pop that back in its little box - | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
if we look at the way that the Englishman was dressed here, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
-you can see he looks like a sort of Regency buck, doesn't he? -Yes. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
-There's something of the Mr D'Arcy about him. -Absolutely! | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
So, you know, Jane Austen... Roughly the same period. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Is it something that you've enjoyed looking at? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Yes, it's something you bring out and show to friends | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
and they say, "Where did you get it?" | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
You say, "Well, it was in the corner cupboard!" | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
-Anything else in that corner cupboard? -Erm, yes. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Oh, I can see you're going to wait | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
until we come back to Glasgow again to show us what else is in there. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
I'll warn you before you come. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Well, it's a valuable little thing. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
I mean, it's actually a game called The Earth And Its Inhabitants. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
And these little hand-coloured illustrations | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
were intended, really, to help children to learn. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I mean this was a time when children, for the first time, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
it was realised they could learn through play, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
and instead of learning by rote, they learnt through amusement. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:59 | |
But it isn't just an amusement, because it's valuable too, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
and even though this is a tiny little globe | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
and it's not in brilliant condition, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
I still think we're talking about between £500 and £800. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
I beg your pardon?! | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
Oh, I... | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
I'm speechless! | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
I think this little jug bears quite close inspection. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Do you know why? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I think possibly something to do with the date on the handle. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-There is a date on the handle. -Yes, it's fairly old. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
Moulded in relief on the handle. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
And what does that date say? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-1591. -Well, I think... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Yes, I'm not... It's whether it's '91 or '71... | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I mean you can't possibly believe that this jug was made in 1571? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
I know. I find it difficult to believe. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Cos that would make it 435 years old. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
-Wow! -That would be quite something! | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
It would indeed, yeah. Because of the workmanship in it too. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-It's amazing. -It's wonderful. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
-Mm. -You've got this sort of bellied form, I suppose, a globular form, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
which is I think moulded with flutes that have then been cut at angles. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
Cut out each one. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
-It's almost like sort of diamond-cut glass. It's fantastic. -Uh-huh. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
It's a stoneware body, so it's a really hard, white body. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
That's wonderful as well, isn't it? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
-Yes. -It's got a silver mount on it. It's got rather tarnished. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
But you've had it for some time? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Yeah, it came into the family through a great-aunt... | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-Right. -..of my husband's. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
-Right. -And it's been there ever since. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Well, I'm very, very pleased to tell you that 1571, it really is. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
-Gosh, that's wonderful. -It's 435 years old. -Wow! | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Isn't that lovely? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-It is. -I mean, just a great thing to find at the Roadshow. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
-Lovely. -And these stoneware jugs were made in Germany. -Mm. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And there were three major potting centres. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
There is an example recorded with initials IM on it, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
which may stand for a man called Johann Mennicken, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
and Mennicken worked at Raeren. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-Right. -So it's likely, since the jug is very similar to this, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
that it's Raeren. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
-I think that's just a magnificent, important object. -Thank you! | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
And valuation is really, erm, a lesson in the art of comparison | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
and there's not really an awful lot that's been sold | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-in the recent past... -No. -..that I can compare this directly with. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
If I was feeling mean, I'd say it was worth | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
-between £4,000 and £5,000. -Mm! | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
If I was feeling a bit more optimistic and knowing, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
you know, that sort of auction price, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
something as rare and unusual as this could go on. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
-Two people want it, it might even make twice that. -Mm, we don't know. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Somewhere in that region. So just a wonderful find. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Thank you. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
One of the loveliest things I've seen on the Roadshow. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-It's gorgeous. -Thank you very much. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
'Good, thank you.' | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
Now I don't want to be patronising to all you Scots here today, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
but I really look forward to coming to this part of the world, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
Glasgow in particular, because I've got a fascination | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
with the decorative arts that were happening here, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
you know, in the 1890s, 1900. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
And of course the big name, goes without saying, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
is Charles Rennie Mackintosh. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
And let's not forget his wife, Margaret Macdonald. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
But you've brought along a few objects today | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
which sort of help redress the picture a little bit, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
because there's more to the Glasgow Style than Mackintosh. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
A case in point... One very interesting chair, two planters. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
Are you a Glasgow School collector? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
No, but my wife was very keen on the Glasgow Style. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Her name interestingly was Margaret Mackintosh. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
-She was originally Sinclair. -Oh, was she? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
But this was left to my wife and we were told that possibly | 0:08:47 | 0:08:53 | |
it had come... It certainly had come from her Great-Aunt Net, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
who was the sort of matriarch of the family, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
and died at 97 about 20 years ago. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Oh, right. What's interesting is, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
I was looking at a very similar chair less than a year ago | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
and so it didn't come as a surprise when you brought it through the door. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
-Ah. -It's a wonderful shape. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
It goes by the name of a caqueteuse, which is a French term | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
which goes back 17th century and beyond. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
The focal point is the panel, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
and you've got this Art Nouveau maiden, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
I mean, I think it's a commercial design. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
She's got her gown open and it's filled with flowers, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
her hair en chignon, to use a term. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
The outfit she's wearing | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
you could probably have bought from Liberty's, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
or its equivalent in this part of the world. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
But just the shape of it, it's got a sense of movement, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
it's got this nice little leaf motif there. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
-Yes, it's lovely. -And exactly who made it, I can't tell you, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
but one thing I do know is that it's a nice, attractive-looking | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
piece of furniture that a lot of people would want to own. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
The one that I saw turned up at auction | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
and if memory serves, it made in the region of £900. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-OK. -If one could have put a name to it, you know, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
Mackintosh, or dare I say, Walton... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-and I don't think it's George Walton... -Right. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
..erm, then obviously up goes the value. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
It's all in a name and that's true with your two planters, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
erm, because this one, if we can go down - | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
let's get down on bended knee - | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
is quite typical Glasgow Style. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
It's got a rose that might be seen as a typical Glasgow rose - | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
I won't call it a Mackintosh rose, let's call it Glasgow - | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
but no signature as such. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
But this one is a bit more special. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
I love this design, with this tree and this rising... | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-And these little song birds. -Yes. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
-I think what we've got here, I think we've got the dawn chorus. -Oh, right. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
OK? Whereas we turn it on its side, we've got the sun going down, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
or it may be the other way round, I'm not sure. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
But what is special is this lovely maiden with long flowing tresses, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
erm... Very stylish, and this is what's quite special. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
MG... Margaret Gilmour. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
And the Gilmour sisters, you know, relatively unsung heroes | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
outside this fair city of Glasgow. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
They were operating from 1893 to about the 1940s | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
and making this type of brassware. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Value wise, unsigned, probably in the region of... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
£400 to £500, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
but because this one is signed, I think probably nearer to | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
£600, maybe £700 or thereabouts. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
But it's all in a name. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
There's a special trick to this. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
You might think you could just pull that open, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
but you have to slide this... | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-..and up it comes. -Very ingenious. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
And you have a magnificent key and a lot of effort | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
and once you open it you've got all these... | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Whoa! Look at that! | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
So what does it say here? | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
The date we have is 1731 and what this says, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
basically, is, "May God protect the old and bring them wealth." | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-And it's in German? -In German. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
The history of these is they were called Armada chests | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
and literally from sort of 16C onwards, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
and they were used to carry your wealth around | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
and usually they're big - | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I mean, they're sort of 4ft, 5ft long - hugely heavy. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
-Right. -But quite often with the same sort of elaborate lock | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
but of course the thing on the front here | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
is the fake. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
And that's absolutely standard to have the hole at the front, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
where you think it's going to be, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
and have the real lock plate actually disguised. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
I'm going to be honest, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
-I think it's a little bit too good to be true. -Uh-huh. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Because all the other ones of these that I've seen, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
this iron lock plate has usually been pierced, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
but more importantly, the date, 1731, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
-is NOT the period in which they were making these. -Right. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Also, this little coat of arms here, with the little stars, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
that is entirely specious. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
It's like someone's idea of what a coat of arms would look like. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-What a pity! -So it is fantastic quality, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
all made in wrought iron, all of this blueing or annealing, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
an awful lot of effort has gone into this, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
with all of these individual lock plates. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
The other thing is, looking at the key... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
..on the real ones of these, the key is incredibly elaborate. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Y'know, this has basically got to tumble | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
the number of locking devices inside, so it had to be very elaborate. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
That is very, very simple, so what I think this is, | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
is I think it's a 19th century copy. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
If I was going to say "fake" | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
that would actually be being a little bit cruel, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
but it sort of is, because the date on it is not right. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
And I think it was probably made in the 1880s in Germany. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
But in a way, for me, it's actually more interesting | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
because it's not right. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
For me as well, from what you're saying. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
It still does have not inconsiderable value. What do you think? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
£400 or so? | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
I think we could fill it up with a bit more money than that. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-Oh, good, good. -No, I could see someone certainly giving... | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
-£1,000, £1,500. -Really? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
And I think for insurance, you'd actually probably want to insure that | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
for probably £2,500 because I haven't seen one before. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
You're not going to find another one. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
I LOVE watching historical dramas on TV and one of my favourite series | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
was an incredibly popular one called Sharpe. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Very popular television series | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
of the swashbuckling Captain Richard Sharpe who fought | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
during the Peninsular Wars, the Napoleonic period, and in India, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
and the rifle that he carried, famously, was the Baker rifle, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
-and you've got one. -That's right, yeah. -Tell me where you got it from. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
I bought it from a dealer in Pennsylvania. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
I'd been looking for a good ordnance issue Baker | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
for some years and eventually I settled on this one. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
And why this one in particular? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
Because it's... It was issued... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
It's the version that was issued to the British Army. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
That's an 1805 pattern. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
-The very early... Yes. -Very early one. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Well, Ezekiel Baker was invited along with a number of other gun makers | 0:15:34 | 0:15:41 | |
to produce the first rifled longarm that was used by the British services | 0:15:41 | 0:15:48 | |
and he was successful in the outcome of the trials, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
so it's a very, very important object in the development of firearms | 0:15:52 | 0:15:59 | |
because it is a rifled gun. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
And before this, of course, we were using a smoothbore gun, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
a long arm, and that would be very quick to load, very easy to load, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
but wouldn't be terribly accurate. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
This, of course, is rifled, and that rifling puts a spin on the bullet... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
-Yes. -..which makes it much more accurate at longer distances. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
Now, one of the important things with any antique, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
is the condition, of course, not only, with this type of object, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
the external condition, but the inside of the barrel as well, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
what's called the bore. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
And I have - I always carry it - | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
a bore light, which is a little light small enough to slip down the barrel. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
Now I've checked this earlier to make sure it's unloaded. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I wouldn't do this if it was, obviously. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
-No, of course not. -So we'll pop this bore light down the barrel | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
and it's quite safe now to look inside the barrel, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
to have a look at the condition, and it is absolutely superb. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:55 | |
You can see the twist of the rifling, and it's marvellous. Want a look? | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
I've never seen the internal, so... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
It's very reassuring to see there's no corrosion. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
-You've never seen it? -No. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
-You bought this without looking? -I'm afraid so! | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
Externally it's fine, but it's reassuring to know that. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
It really is good, and it's fascinating to see | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
the twist of that rifling, because you don't often see that. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
-It's not a view you regularly get. -No, it's not terribly pronounced. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
It's not as severe as some people might imagine it would be. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Mm. The Baker rifle is a rare rifle. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
I've got a volunteer version of this and I paid, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
what, three... Some years ago, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
I paid £5,500 for mine and it's not in as good condition. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
This is in really super condition, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
and long may you continue to collect, but only - | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-if you can afford to - items in good condition. -Yes, yes. That's the key. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
I feel like Goldilocks here, with the three bears. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
We've got Daddy bear, Mummy bear, Baby bear. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
That's correct, yes. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
And all looking very surprised with their mouths open in astonishment. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Wonderful expressions on them. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
When was your first memory of them? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
When I was about three-and-a-half, to four, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
I was given them as a present by my father. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
I'd been very ill and this was sort of a get-well present. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
You were given all three of them? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Yes... Well actually, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
I got the big one first and then the other two | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
came as a surprise afterwards, so we had the family. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
-But there actually was a fourth. -Which is? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
But we only have three today. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-Where's the fourth? -The fourth one was eaten by my dog! | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-I hope it got indigestion! -Sorry! Sorry! | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
-Erm, they're in nice condition, the ones that survived the dog. -Yes. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:42 | |
And I do love this long shaggy pile, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
and they were actually only invented by Steiff in the very early '50s, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:51 | |
about 1951, and they were called Zottys, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
which is a shortening of the German word "zottig", which means shaggy. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-Yes, right. -So, they were called shaggy bears in German. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
I didn't know that... Lovely! | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
And it was the first time really that these open-mouthed, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
-rather astonished looking bears, were made commercially. -Yes, they are. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
And they were an instant hit, because of course | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
they look very different to all the other bears... | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
-Yes, to all the ordinary bears. -..around at the time. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-Um, so what are three little bears worth? Well, obviously... -No idea. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
..they range in value depending on the size. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
I suppose the largest one is going to be in the region of £500 at auction. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:35 | |
-Really? -And then, going down, I suppose... | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
£300, £200... You've got the best part of £1,000 here. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
I'm surprised actually, because I really didn't think | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
they'd be that valuable because I didn't think they were old enough, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
to be honest with you. That's a nice surprise. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Well, this is a familiar scene and an impressive photograph | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-but a poignant story. -It is. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
This photograph was taken on the steps of this art gallery | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
and it's the boys and leaders of the first Glasgow Scout Troop in 1914, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
before the outbreak of the First World War. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
They were all commissioned as officers. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
The military were very keen on having scouts enlisted | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
because they had good leadership skills, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
but sadly of the 32 who enlisted, only three returned. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
So many of these young fellows in this photograph would have perished? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
Perished in the First World War, yes. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
And I'm now very proud to be the Scout Leader of this troop. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
So the quality of young people involved now, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
is the same as we see here in 1914? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
The enthusiasm is always high for Scouts and Cubs. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
The story of that is about ten years ago, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
my wife was out on a Sunday on Clydeside | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
and she went into a store that was there and she actually found it. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-Just like that? -Just like that, yes. -For not very much money, I'm sure. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-Actually, 12p. -12p, wow. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
Yeah, 12p, indeed. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
Obviously it's a tea caddy spoon, you know, for serving the tea. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
-OK. -The important thing on it is the name. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Here we've got Stuart Cranston. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
-OK. -It was Miss Cranston who set up the tea rooms | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-that Rennie Mackintosh designed. -Right. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
So in a sense it was Miss Cranston | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
-who launched Rennie Mackintosh on his global career... -Oh, right. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
..as, you know, one of the great men of the 20th century in terms of design. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
In those days, we're talking 1900, 1910, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
where could ladies go out and meet their friends and chat? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
Tea shops were completely safe, so Glasgow was the centre | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
of the tea shop trade, where ladies could go and meet their friends. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
And the success of Mackintosh was that Miss Cranston wanted | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
-to set up this chain of tea shops. -Right. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Now Stuart Cranston, who we have here, he was her brother, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
who, in a sense, was a rival, and he also had tea shops. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
He was a tea importer. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
-Right. -He didn't employ Mackintosh. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
So although Mackintosh did have teaspoons in his tea shops | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
-which he designed sometimes... -Yes, right. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
..they were not the same as this. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-OK. -They've got the Cranston name, but the other side of the family. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-Right, OK. -Do you use it? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
-No, erm... -Not in the tea caddy? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
Not in the tea caddy, no. It's just been sitting there. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-I think you should. This is Glasgow history. -OK. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Every time you tip the tea out, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-think of the Cranstons. They made Glasgow what it was. -Fantastic. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
How much would you say for it, you know? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Well, 12p was a reasonable price. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
I think, because of the Cranston name, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-it's more likely to be £20 or £30. -£30. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-OK, fantastic. -So jolly good buy. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Thanks, I appreciate it. Thank you. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
This is an amazing gold box. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
I love it for three particular reasons but the first is, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
the remarkable quality of the engineering work here. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
You bought it... Why did you buy it? | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
I... My wife saw it and we both loved it | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
and it combines a number of my interests | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
in clocks, watches, musical boxes... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
And I just thought it was a treasure. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Well, certainly a treasure. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
First, it's gold, high quality gold. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
Secondly, when you first look at it, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
it looks like a miniature book. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
You wouldn't think it was anything more than just | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
maybe a little snuff box or something like that. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Then you look very carefully at it and you notice | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
that it's heightened with blue enamel, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
but exquisitely done. I mean, to do enamelling like that | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
takes a huge amount of technical skills, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
so it speaks quality, that's why I first of all like it. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
And then you think, "Oh, well, it's just a snuff box." | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
But it's not, is it? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:31 | |
You open it up and what have you got inside? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Well, obviously you've got a mechanism for telling the time, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
again quite unusual for any snuff box like this, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
but the giveaway is this musical notation. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
I've never seen that. And then under here | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
is a remarkably early musical movement. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Now you'll see it has some marks on the side here | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
which are the gold marks, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
and from that's from a Geneva maker around about 1812, 1815. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
This is probably one of the smallest, certainly, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
and one of the earliest boxes we've ever seen on the Roadshow. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
The market is very, very strong. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
There are lots of international collectors | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
for such early and rare pieces. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
You're probably talking about a value of | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
between £10,000 and £12,000 today. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Really? Wow. My wife's taste is spot on. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
-So it's all down to her? -Yes. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
MUSICAL BOX PLAYS DELICATE TUNE | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
DEEP TONE VIBRATES | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
It's a most extraordinary sound. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Sort of... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
almost tenor. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
It's supposed to call people to the temple to pray. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
And where was that one made? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
This particular one was made in Japan, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
we think around about the 1930s | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
because all the inscriptions on the baton... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
This will go for about three minutes. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
But the baton inscription and underneath says it's from the 1930s. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
So what made you collect singing bowls? | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
I read a newspaper article about 40 years ago | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
about singing bowls and I wondered what they were, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
and I eventually found one to practise with | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
and started to collect them for about 40 years now, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
and just built up a collection of all kinds, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
mainly Himalayan bowls, Tibetan bowls... | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
-Yes. -..but these are Japanese bowls and they are quite rare to find | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
and a much more full sound than even the Himalayan ones. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:45 | |
This one I think is probably much earlier than this, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
and I think probably mid 19th century. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
I rather like the striped decoration. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
It's all been beaten out by hand. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
BOWL HUMS There she blows! | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Used for meditation... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
-You won't fall asleep doing that, will you? -No! | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
That is extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Now, the most intriguing, I think, is probably this one. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
In 40 years I've never seen anything like it, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
because it's a very big one to start but the quality of the sound | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
is really second to none. Even if we just hit it... | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
..and it starts to rise and fall with the actual sound. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
That is amazing. Now there's an inscription round here. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
The inscription, which is in old kanji... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
Dear, oh, dear! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:47 | |
A little bit of an electric shock. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
I wasn't expecting that, but the inscription round the edge... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
Yes, the inscription, which of course would be read | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
from right to left, it does translate as, | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
"Presented by Tokugawa Ieyasu | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
"to the Horyuji Temple in the year 1600." | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
And the Horyuji Temple is the oldest of wooden structures in the world, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
-dating back to about, approximately about -1300. Gosh. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
How did it come out of Japan? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Well, that worries me! I don't know. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Because at one level I've never heard anything like this | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
and it has a wonderful sound. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
It takes a little while to build... | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
It's coming. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:38 | |
DEEP BASS TONE RESONATES | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
That is amazing! | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
I've just never come across this. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
That deep, deep tone. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
Yeah, it's very special. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Horyuji Temple has a wonderful collection of Buddhist antiques | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
and I would have liked to have found out | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
whether in fact it was part of that collection. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
-Well, it's a very religious noise, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
They've all got lovely religious noises. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Now, tell me how much you've paid for these, cos I have no idea. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
Well, I went into auction recently and paid £300 for this. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
The point was, the people who were bidding against me | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
just liked the sound and just wanted... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
But they didn't know what it was, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
and it was put down as being Chinese lettering. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
And what d'you pay for these little ones? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Erm, well this one here I bought about 35 years ago, so it wasn't... | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
-I think I paid £16 for it. -Yes. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
This one here, conversely, was £750, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
and I bought that from a Japanese dealer in New York. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
Well, this is a new one for me. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
I thoroughly enjoy ethnographic arts and craft | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
and all those sort of things, but this is absolutely intriguing. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
-Can you play us out? -Of course. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
BOWL HUMS | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
What a tankard! | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Now that is...quite something. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
What can you tell me about it? | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
Well, the armorial bearings are the bearings of the Fleming family | 0:29:16 | 0:29:22 | |
-of Killiechassie, which is a house on the Tay in Perthshire. -Right. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
And when Killiechassie went out with the Prince in 1745, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:32 | |
he buried his silver and he survived the campaign | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
but was taken prisoner after Culloden | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
and he was corralled with a lot of other Highlanders | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
and the dragoon in charge of them said in the middle of the afternoon, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
"Does anyone know what the time is?" | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
and he took, not thinking, out from under his plaid, his gold watch. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Ah... A mistake! | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
The dragoon said, "You aren't who you're pretending to be | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
"but I'm a sporting man, I'll give you an hour to make your escape." | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Which he successfully did and he went to the continent, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
where I imagine he earned his living as a mercenary soldier, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
till about 1780, when he was pardoned | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
and the estates restored to him, and he came back and amazingly, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
there was the silver where he'd buried it! | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Right, now it's interesting, his return at that time, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
-because the armorial there... -Yes. -..is not as early as the tankard. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
-Right. -And actually would date to somewhere around 1790 or so. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
-Oh, right. -So perhaps on his return he had it engraved. -Yes, yes. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
-Now, what we've actually got here are Edinburgh hallmarks. -Yes. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
-The maker's mark, which we can see there, TK... -Yes. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
..that's a chap called Thomas Kerr. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
-Yes. -Now, he started work in the 1690s. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
-Right. -And just over there, there is a date letter. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
There's enough there to know what it is, and it's 1703. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
-Right. -But these Edinburgh tankards, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
these Scottish tankards of this period, are absolutely stunning. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
-That lid... That's what's known as cut-card work. -Yes. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
-Very distinctly Scottish as well. A finial on a tankard... -Right. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
-..you rarely see in England. -Right. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
-And it's very common in Scotland. -Yes. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
And there's another thing, that even without looking at a hallmark, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
you would know that this would be Scottish, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
-and that's the way the thumb piece has been done. -Oh, right. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
-Now, if this were an English one, that would just stand up. -Ah, right. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:33 | |
-But this has... Can you see that second little piece there? -Yes, yes. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
-The two things together scream Scotland at you. -Right. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
And look just next to the handle... | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
I mean, just that little, almost like a flame... | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Oh, it really is quite something. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
And actually this is fascinating in here as well. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
-"The Fleming tankard"? -Yes. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
I love the bit at the end of this, actually... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
"This piece is probably pretty valuable." | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
I think that's gorgeous! I think that's absolutely super! | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
So...a rare - and it is rare - | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
there are only a few of these in existence. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
I think what we've got to be looking at here is... | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
in excess of £25,000. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Right. It's insured for 15. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
-That is not enough. -Not enough, right. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
-I think you should insure it for about £35,000, possibly £40,000. -Yes. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:35 | |
-Gosh! -It would be an extraordinarily difficult piece to replace. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
We had some work done on the roof some years ago | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
and the joiner came down and said, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
-GLASWEGIAN ACCENT: -"Your attic's in a terrible state. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
"There's a lot of rubbish pressing on your beams | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
"and they're gonnae go if you don't get something done." | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
-Right. -So I went up and there was bags of soot and lead and all that, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
and among the things were this embroidery | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
and, in a sort of cardboard scroll, there was this drawing. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
OK, let me just move in on this, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
because it is part of this Glasgow story, and when thinking about, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:17 | |
you know, the Glasgow School of Art and the activities there, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
needlework was one of the foremost disciplines. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
And there you had the likes of Jessie Newbery | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
and you'd also got Ann Macbeth... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
these are big names as far as the Glasgow Girls are concerned. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
-Everybody talks about the Glasgow Boys... -I've heard of them, but... | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Well, the Glasgow Girls... Listen, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
we're here to try and make sure that we put them on the map. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
I mean, they're already on the map... | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
But when you come across something like this... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I am not 100% certain who actually was responsible. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
What I DO know is that they were gifted. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I suppose when it comes to date, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
we're looking somewhere let's say around about 1900, 1905, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
it could be as late as 1910. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
And what I do know... | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
This is the most wonderful composition, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
because you've got these lovely daisy flowers here. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
There's a symmetry there and yet there's a movement there. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
So you've got these flowers and then | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
these lovely sort of spear shaped leaves | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
on these lovely, long slender stems, and then this wonderful sort of bowl, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
if you will, of swirling flowers. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
If you can just home in on, let's just say, one leaf here... | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
The amount of work that's gone into making that is quite incredible. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
I am not certain as to what it's worth, quite frankly, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
but when I look at something like that, I think, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
if I saw that and I could buy it for £500, I'd snap it up. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
If it was £1,000... Well, I'd have to ask me wife... Are you with me? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
OK, and then you find this, in the same, obviously, in your loft. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
Yes, you see it was rolled up in a scroll, you can see. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I wondered whether I should iron it. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
-No! -But I decided not to. -No, don't iron it! OK, well... | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
OK! So...it's all in the initials, isn't it? CRM. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
-Oh, yes. -Charles Rennie Mackintosh. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
-Well, that wouldn't be by him though, would it? -Well, why not? | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Why not? | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-There's every reason and I'll tell you why. -Really? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
The date...1891. Now, in 1890 Mackintosh won an exhibition | 0:35:27 | 0:35:35 | |
for, erm... a drawing for a public building | 0:35:35 | 0:35:41 | |
and...he was given £60 | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
as a prize towards a sketching trip which he decided to take in Italy. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:49 | |
So he set off at the end of March, in 1891, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
and he returned three months later. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
We have a date, 1891, and I see that he's actually titled it, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
"The Latern, Rome". | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
Around about 10 or 12 years ago, about a hundred of these sketches | 0:36:04 | 0:36:10 | |
turned up on the market and so we do have something of a precedent, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
but what is exciting for me is that I'm, you know, I'm just... | 0:36:14 | 0:36:19 | |
this distance away from this great man. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
I've been looking at Mackintosh's work for the best part of 30 years. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
He's still an enigma to me but here he is in his early days. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
He's still a draughtsman-designer, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
he's working for Honeyman and Keppie here in the city. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It's before his glory days, but he did have such a careful eye | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
and it's this attention to detail and balanced design | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
that just made him, you know, one of the great master architects | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
of the late 19th and early 20th century. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
So it's in the loft, it's here today, it's right as rain. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
I mean if I want, if I go into a gallery to buy this today, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
it's somewhere, let's say, between perhaps £2,000 and £3,000. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
And you think it is Charles Rennie Mackintosh? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
I do. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
I do. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:12 | |
And you know, I always hesitate before I stick my neck out | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
but I've got no reason to doubt it whatsoever. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
It just begs the question at the moment, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
"What else is lurking in your attic?" | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
I'm afraid it's all been cleared out and it's all on the skip. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:32 | |
It's mostly bags of soot, though. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
It's all right, Eric! I'm sure there wasn't anything else. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
It's just the idea of that skip! | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Anyway...it's a great textile and could I have asked for more | 0:37:40 | 0:37:47 | |
than an original Mackintosh sketch? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
Bring on a few Argyle Street room chairs and maybe, you know, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
I'll be dreaming, but you've made me a very happy man in Glasgow. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Excellent. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
The idea behind the European City of Culture Award | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
is to bring all the peoples of Europe together | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
and I think most of them have come together here | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
at Kelvingrove Museum and Art Gallery. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
It's been a great pleasure spending time in this wonderful place. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Until the next time, from Glasgow, goodbye. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 |