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If it's escaped your notice that the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
is celebrating its 30th anniversary, then you really haven't | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
been watching. We've talked a lot | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
about the years between now and then. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
We've turned the speedometer back to 1977, the year the show actually began. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:05 | |
In those days, to eager young petrol heads, the TR6 was the coolest seven wheels on the block, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
and fashion was extremely groovy. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
# ..Yesterday's gone Yesterday's gone... # | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
It was a time when women walked tall in stacked wedges. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Cutting edge flares were a menace to small children and dogs. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
Shirt collars were capable of lift off. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
And the velvet jacket wasn't just worn in private, it was in vogue. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
Just suppose we kept all that groovy gear in mothballs | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
and the flash motor in mint condition. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Well, back in the days when the Roadshow was sucking on its dummy, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
my TR6 was worth just over £1,300. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
Now it's worth £13,000 - a good investment, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
and that's what today's Roadshow is all about, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
making a smart investment for the future of my son. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
And we've found the ideal backdrop, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
get an eyeful of the De La Warr Pavilion, Bexhill-on-Sea. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
In its day, it was seen by some as brash and ahead of its time, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
just too modern for its own good. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
70 years on, it's a design icon. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Which leads us to ask, what objects from our recent past should we cherish for the future? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:48 | |
Eric Knowles is already in the groove. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Looking at a gramophone such as this, this is the ultimate desire. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
This and an MGB GT was all I ever wanted back in the 1960s. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:04 | |
This particular radio gramophone, to give its proper title I think, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
obviously was, was first introduced in 1956. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
-Right. -Am I right? -Yes, you are. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
Good. It is without question a piece of classic design. I mean, people use this term "icons of design" | 0:03:16 | 0:03:24 | |
and this is, as it's revolutionary for its age. Back in 1956, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:30 | |
nobody had ever seen anything quite like it, and what made it special | 0:03:30 | 0:03:37 | |
was the fact that it had got this Perspex cover. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
I mean, this is Space Age in every shape and form. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
But I want to know how long you've been playing with it. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Well, I bought it in '65 from a shop in London called Imhoff's. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
It was opposite then the new Centre Point. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-Oh, yes. -And we bought it from there cos we saw it and loved it, and the very same thing, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
we thought it was such a marvellous design and it was something you wanted to cuddle almost. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
It seems silly, but it's so lovely, and then, we've had it since then. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
-It's been in the loft for 30 years now. -Oh, what a shame. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
It is, yes, but if now, this was 100 watts a channel, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
and stereo, I'd take all my hi-fi out and put this back because I like it so much. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
-It's the bee's knees. -Yes. -What's always made it endearing to me | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
is the fact that it's always been referred to as Snow White's Coffin, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:29 | |
for obvious reasons. Doesn't it? But shall we just have a quick, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
-quick look inside. It's Spartan, isn't it? -It is. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Um, there's no waste of space here. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
First of all, let's extol the virtues of the maker Braun. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
I mean, Braun lead the way here and everybody else followed. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
What I find interesting on your turntable, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
you've got 16 revolutions, 33 and 45. Well, 45 ruled the '60s. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:57 | |
It ruled the '70s. 16, what do you use 16 for? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-Mainly speech LPs and plays and things like that. -Right. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
Very few produced, but it was there. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
OK, now, the big question is, what did you pay for it? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
I think it was 79 Guineas with the speaker. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
A lot of money in 1965. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
We couldn't afford the stereo version. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
No, that was a month's wages and more. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
-Yes. -OK, well, today, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
its value is nearer £300. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
I've got to say that around about 10 years ago, they were making around about £400, £500. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:32 | |
-It depends very much on the actual model. This is an SK... -55. -55. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
-And I think value does depend on the actual model itself. -Yes, exactly, yes. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
So if we were saying £300 today, what are we going to say in 30 years? | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
This is the bit where I wish I was working alongside Mystic Meg, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
but I dare say that you'd be looking probably nearer £1,000 in 30 years. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:58 | |
I'll tell you what, let's make an arrangement now. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
We will meet here at the De La Warr Pavilion | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
in 30 years, and we'll see how wrong, or how right, I might be. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
I'd love to do that. I don't think we will, but I'd love to. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
I'm forever the optimist. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
When I see that Biba logo, it sort of brings back | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
the whole of my teenage years. And opening up the catalogue, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
there we see one of those terribly evocative photographs, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
but also, what's even better, of course you've got the real thing. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
Now, who is the Biba nut? Sorry, this is a colloquial term, we're amongst friends. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Well, probably both of us, but my sister was the one who introduced me to it, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
because she used to go up to London and... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
-So you were the older sister? -Yeah. -OK, so... -We shared a bedroom so... | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Oh, say no more. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
But for any girl of our age... | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
-Absolutely. -..it was THE destination, Saturday morning, off you'd go and... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
-It certainly was, yes. -Tell me your reminiscences actually of the shop itself, describe it to me. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:02 | |
Well, my reminiscences were first of the Kensington Church Street branch where... | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
it was so atmospheric. I mean, um, I was into Art Nouveau, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
and it's all very much in tune with that. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Exactly. They ended up, of course, in Derry & Toms | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
-in Kensington High Street, which was this shrine really... -It really was, yes. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
..to girlie consumerism. It was a real destination. I mean, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
they had cafe, they had homewares, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
-they had a whole floor devoted to the sort of kasbah scene... -That's right. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:40 | |
..with Moroccan and Turkish artefacts and so on, and of course, make-up. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-This is what...a cake tin? -Yes, I mean, I just loved it because it was | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
that sort of 1930s style that I loved, um, and just the colours. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:55 | |
I think the colours together, the gold and black | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
-and the red, are just perfect. -And terribly brave at that stage. -Yes. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
We are looking at it with the benefit of hindsight, when we all know about Art Deco and about | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
the colour schemes that were used, but actually in the '60s, this was really cutting edge, really new. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
It was, because, er, I think in the '60s, everything was very modern and it was going back to that sort of... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
-you know, era that you know, very much in the past. -Exactly. -And had been swept away really. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
Exactly, this was the era when everybody was burning their Victorian furniture on bonfires, you know, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
and Barbara Hulanicki, who started Biba in 1964, went right against the trends because she was, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:34 | |
she was using these dusty pinks, these plums, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
dark browns, greys, and I think she described it as "aunty colours," | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
the sort of things perhaps your maiden aunt would be wearing. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
And I mean, the coat is fabulous, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
and that's what I call traditional Biba style, what they set out to do, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
and this is obviously much more... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
Yes, psychedelic, because I was kind of into that at the time | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
-and this was the closest they did to the wilder patterns. -Exactly. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-That's why I went for it really. -Exactly. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Now, we've got lots of memorabilia here. I want to know... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-how sad is it? -Yes. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
How sad is it that somebody here... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
keeps a bag, with the receipt... | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
I didn't know the receipt was still on it until I fetched that out. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-I don't believe you for a moment! Well, it's 26th June 1974. -I know. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:27 | |
And I can look that up in my diary, because every time I went to London, I had to go to Biba's, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-it was just... -It was a pilgrimage, wasn't it? -It was, and I had to buy something, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
-and I just kept them because they were too lovely to throw away. -Absolutely. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
I mean, as far as value's concerned, prices vary you know, from... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
perhaps £30 or so, £40 perhaps for a catalogue, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
up to £100, £150, maybe £200 for a simple piece of clothing... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:54 | |
-Right. -..to something perhaps a little bit more for, for the coat that you've got on. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
But how much was the biscuit tin originally? | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Well, there we go, originally 40p. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
Er, today, I would have thought...£15. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-Really? -I think if you, if you ever decide that you want to add to the collection, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
you will find plenty of venues out there which will enable you to feed your habit. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Well, it's a sunny but windy day here in Bexhill, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
so I'm very glad you brought your heater. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Perhaps we can turn it on. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
-And it works. -It works, even better. But why have you brought your heater? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
Because it was a wedding present to us when we were married in 1961. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
-Right. -Having met up there in the ballroom on the dance floor. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
-So you met in this building? -Yes. In 1959, yes. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-Across a crowded room, our eyes met. -And it's been wonderful ever since. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-Wonderful, hasn't it? -Yes. -So, this heater comes into your life | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
-when you get married in, what was it, 1961? -Yes. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
And were you modernists? | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Well, we actually had no furniture at all really apart from bits like this, so I think we were modernists. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
-I was, I'm not sure that Richard was. -We had to be minimalists, we couldn't afford anything else. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
-So, minimalism is to do with having no money. -Yes. -When you're first married. -Yes. -A new definition. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
This is an iconic object of that period, this is very much the contemporary look, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
spiky legs and all that sort of thing. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
It has that sort of Space Age feel about it, and this is a very collectable object, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
they're not rare, they fetch anything from £50 to £150, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:32 | |
depending on condition and colour. There were different colour ways, and it's just nice that you have it, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
you still use it, and it links so precisely to the building. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
It is the style that was outrageous in the 1930s, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
by the 1950s and '60s had become in a sense accepted, But the great thing is, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
-this is a record of coming together here. -Yes, yes, yes. -It does go very well with the building, doesn't it? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
-When you see it here. -It's the perfect setting. -Perfect setting. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
If you can, cast your mind back to 1977. If you can't, ask your dad. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
As I recall, it was the Queen's Silver Jubilee, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Virginia Wade won Wimbledon, and Star Wars was on its way to becoming one of the top films of all time. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
But apart from the birth of the Antiques Roadshow, what was telly up to in 1977? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
And time to come alive with some hit music and jive on this week's Top of the Pops! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
Did you know you can do multiplication sums on your fingers? | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
-This may look like an ordinary piece of corrugated iron. -..France! | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
Here is the news from the BBC. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
I loved him, loved his music. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
# Are you lonesome tonight? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
# Do you miss me... # | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Elvis Presley will still be the king of rock and roll to me, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
-he really and truly will. -# ..we drifted apart... # | 0:13:34 | 0:13:40 | |
Hello and welcome to "Ask Aspel". | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Five thousand and fifty. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
OK, girls, let's get to the, to the bottom of this. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
Tell me how you got started, because we are surrounded by... | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
-well, it's sort of Starsky & Hutch heaven really, isn't it? -It is for us. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
What was the first thing you bought? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
That would be the Starsky doll, and notice the cardigan. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
-I am noticing that cardigan. -It was knitted by my mother in 1975. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
-Sheer devotion, sheer devotion. -And did she knit you that one at the same time? | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
-No, my friend here knitted this one. -And who made the jacket? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
I made the Hutch jacket, yes, matches the Hutch doll. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-So... So, you became, this is not your life. You have more lives. -No. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:41 | |
Yes, we do have lives, yes. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
But you, you share this extraordinary passion for Starsky and Hutch? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
-We do. -We do. -So there you were, glued to the TV sets every, what was it, Wednesdays it went out? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
-Saturday. -Saturday, yeah. Time flies. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
That was repeats on the Wednesdays. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
-And they were a complete phenomenon really from day one, weren't they? -Yes, they were, yes. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
To put it into context, there weren't any similar hard-hitting detective series at that time. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:13 | |
-No. -And at one point, I think that the censors were getting really worried about Starsky and Hutch | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
-because it was too violent. -It was. -We think of it as kind of... | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
-things made for kids, but it wasn't, was it? -No. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
-Well ahead of its time. -Absolutely, serious issues. -Yes, prostitution, drug addiction. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
-Yes. -And yet the nub of the show, the friendship between the two men, is what made it so long lasting. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:36 | |
And they were good looking. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
-I know it's a minor point, but... -Not for me it wasn't. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-I know. -I have to say, he was my favourite. -Oh! -Yes. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
-Fifty-fifty... -So, tell me, you said that you bought this at the time, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
were you both buying at the time? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
I was, I was buying quite avidly, my poor mum, she had to spend so much money, | 0:15:56 | 0:16:02 | |
but we bought them, the magazines which were monthly, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-the bubble gum cards. -The bubble gum cards. -Yeah. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
So you were collecting from the start, and were you also? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
Well, I'm a bit older, so it wasn't quite right for a mature woman, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
22 I think, to collect at that time, but I did go and buy the magazines. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
-Right. -Because those are, those were so special | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and every month more pictures, more letters, more stories. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-And I can see he touched this page. -Yes. -It's signed. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
I mean, there are some things here that one sees relatively regularly. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
The Corgi toys, something that you see, and some of these games turn up. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
-I must say, there are some things that are rarer, this for instance I, I don't remember seeing. -Yes. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
I mean, when one's talking about, um, valuing a collection like this, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
I guess value is kind of not what it's about. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
It's priceless to us. Priceless, yes. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
But I mean, the price for instance that Corgi... | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
-This one. -The, the Torino there with the sort of spread-eagled guy, I mean that varies between about £100 | 0:17:00 | 0:17:07 | |
and £250 on the internet depending on which day you're looking and I mean the great thing is, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
because there is an international fan base, that a collection like this | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
is going to go up in value, more and more people are going to become fans. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
This was a time of innocence, not having to worry about your mortgage or your children or anything else, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:26 | |
just whether your mum was going to give you enough money to buy a Starsky and Hutch magazine. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
Who can ask more from a collection than to do that? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Than to take you back to a time when you were happy and carefree and were just looking forward to the next... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
-to the next programme. -Yes. -I don't suppose either of you can remember the theme tune. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
-The theme tune, let me see. -Give it a go? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
THEY HUM THE STARSKY AND HUTCH THEME TUNE | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
I feel very comfortable sitting here. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
I feel I could spend a long time chatting around this table. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Is this something you use a lot? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
We have used it a lot in the past, particularly sort of family dinners, things like that. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
This I think is interesting because we've got a whole ensemble... | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
here, sideboard, chairs, table, and it's becoming extremely fashionable, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
retro furniture, but you said you've had it for quite a long time. So, when did you get it? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
In the late 1950s, leading up to 1960, when we got married. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:38 | |
We were working in London at the time and places like the Design Centre in the Haymarket | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
and Libertys, they were all the sort of places we tended to visit | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
and, um, the sort of teak and stainless steel look was, was coming in at that time. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
We decided we wanted it and ordered it at a local store in Maidstone, and they got it for us. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
-Fantastic. So you were very design conscious when you were, when you were young? -Yes. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
And did you know when you bought this set that it was designed in 1959? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:08 | |
I don't think we knew that at the time but I'm a retired architect now and at the time, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
people like John and Sylvia Reid, who were the designers, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
we were aware that sort of thing was going on. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
But I think it's worth looking at what really makes it so interesting as a design. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:25 | |
-You've got this lovely oval table, and it extends? -It does, yes. -So, how many leaves does it have? -One. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:32 | |
-It's got a centre leaf, which is stored underneath. -But it makes a very elegant shape, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
it's very much of its period, isn't it? This sort of modern, simple, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
streamlined shape, and then the chairs are very simple... | 0:19:40 | 0:19:46 | |
metal legs as the table, and this sort of slightly geometrical elliptical shape to the back. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:52 | |
-Yes. -And it's interesting I think picking up the metal legs, that really is a pre-Second World War | 0:19:52 | 0:19:58 | |
feature that came in through Bauhaus and so on, but also this kind of back | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
-really is looking to Danish or Scandinavian design as well. -Yes. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
So that you're really combining the two elements | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
of German modernism and Scandinavian humanism, if you like, in the shape. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
So, let's move over here and see what we've got behind it. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Because also getting a whole ensemble in terms of design was something relatively new for... | 0:20:19 | 0:20:26 | |
when I say ordinary people rather than the kind of aristocratic design... | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
commissions of the 18th and 19th Century, and the little stool here. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
-The chairs have been reupholstered at some point? -Yes. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
-And this is the original fabric. -Right, yes. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
There is the manufacturer's label - Stag, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
and you mentioned John and Sylvia Reid, and they were the modern designers for Stag, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
but what's also interesting is to look at the kind of construction, because it's | 0:20:48 | 0:20:53 | |
not the very highest engineering quality, it's quite simple, isn't it? | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
-This was the accessible face of the new design. -Yes, yes. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
And the sideboard here too, er, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
stylish little pulls here, I like that, the cutlery drawer inside. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:12 | |
Can you remember what you paid for it? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
No, we've been trying to think of that, it's almost impossible to think back to those times. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
It was probably... | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
sort of £30 or £40 type of money, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
which was a lot then when we weren't earning that much. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
For a while this kind of thing, as I'm sure you know, was completely out of fashion, nobody wanted it at all, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:34 | |
and now it's becoming much, much more fashionable, but it's still up and down, if you, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:40 | |
if you look on internet sites, you can probably find a set of chairs for, I don't know, £100. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:47 | |
Elsewhere, I've seen a set of dining sets just like this one, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
in nice condition, as this is, going for... | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
at auction this is, er, about £850. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
And the sideboard, you might be lucky and buy one for around £200, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
or you might have to spend at auction £600. So, it's still one of those markets | 0:22:03 | 0:22:10 | |
which is very, very fluid, but I think it's going to become much more fashionable in the future | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
as people begin to see how comfortable it is to live with, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
-how simple the designs are, how elegant the designs are. -I don't know if the children will want it, but... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
Oh, well, you convince them that this is, this is the new Chippendale and you'll be away. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:30 | |
So, we've got 30 years of the Antiques Roadshow | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
and 30 years of the Star Wars saga of course, this being the 6th film. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
You were presumably a fan as a child? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Yeah, just really never seen anything like it before really. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
So this being an actually quite important poster, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
do you know why this is such an interesting poster? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
Their name, they changed the name at the last minute from "revenge" to "return". | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
That's it, I think they felt, that George Lucas felt that revenge | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
wasn't something that a Jedi should really have. So a little bit un-Jedi like, so they changed it. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
-The other interesting thing about this poster is that it's probably one of the most faked movie posters. -Yes. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
And there are three pointers that I tend to look at. One of the very recent reproductions was actually | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
effectively taken from one of the folded posters, so you have to look very closely at the fold marks | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
to make sure that through the actual fold there aren't other marks | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
within the poster. That will indicate it's a reproduction. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
The other side of it is the fact that the "Star Wars" | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
running along here is quite often in orange and not this yellow. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
-And there's a little red line at the top. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Yeah? And then the Fox logo is normally slightly blurry | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
-on some of the reproduction posters. -The one in the corner? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
In the bottom corner, yes. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
And sometimes it's a much darker blue. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
So we haven't got fold lines, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:49 | |
we've got a solid black, a nice light blue, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
and a yellow here across the "Star Wars". | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
My feeling is that it's based on that, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
and that they're the normal hallmarks of it being a reproduction or a fake. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
-I think this is brilliant, I think it's absolutely correct. -Oh, good. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
But it's also very good news from the financial side of it as well, because I don't know what you paid for it. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:09 | |
I paid around just short of 100. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Well, if it was a fake, I think you'd have been looking around sort of £10, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
-it's purely decorative value. -As little as that? -Yeah. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
But an authentic one like this, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
I can see fetching anything from sort of £250, £300, maybe a little more. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
It's a sort of notorious poster, it's an iconic poster, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
Darth Vader of course, you know, featuring large is a good thing. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
-And I don't know if you've noticed this, have you ever looked at the light sabres? -The wrong way round. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
They are the wrong way round, exactly, it's another interesting feature. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
Now, I was around in the 1970s, and I think I was reasonably up to date, you know, fairly pacey, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
I never had an LED watch, I don't know why, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
just never sort of grabbed me, but obviously it's grabbed you. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
When I was a kid in the late '70s, me dad bought me a cheap LED watch that I used to, of a night, | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
lie under the bed sheets, pressing the button till it wore out looking at the red LED glowing, | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
but then I realised that with these watches, they are quite collectable, the early models, so... | 0:25:05 | 0:25:11 | |
So, when did you start again? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Well, it was about ten years ago, I bought a fashion magazine, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
I was flicking through the article and there was a picture of an Omega LED watch and I thought, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:21 | |
"I remember when I was a kid owning one of them watches," | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
so I thought, seemed a good thing to collect, so I started to go back as a kid and collecting them. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
So you were going back to your childhood in a sense? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
-Yeah, just reminiscing. -Where did it start? Have you got it here? -It starts there with... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-That one? The Pulsar? -Yeah, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
the Pulsar P1, that come out in, er, early '72. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Everybody saw that and thought, "God, we'd better make those," so Omega do it, everybody else does it. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:47 | |
Yeah, soon after the Omega was the first European LED watch, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
but Pulsar was the first, that was very expensive back in the early '70s to buy. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
So what would that cost then? | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
-2,100 in... -Gosh, so nearly £1,000. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Yeah, in '72 you would have... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
-Which is a huge amount of money. -Yeah. -Now, when does it die out? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Um, around about '77, Pulsar closed because the LCD market took over. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:14 | |
But hang on, let's get this story, LED/LCD. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Yeah, Light Emitting Diode, LED, LCD - Liquid Crystal Display. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
-Sure. -And the battery life was a lot longer, whereas the LED... | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
-This is a short period in watch history? -Yes, six years and it was pretty much done with. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
-And then it's all over. -Then it was all over. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
-When I look at them now, I missed it at the time, like I missed quite a lot of the '70s I think... -Yes. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
..but I can see now what it is, you know, it has a very, very strong statement about its period, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:45 | |
-about its time, and that's why they're collectable. -Yes. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
They have that wonderful resonance of when they were made. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
You wear them very much making a style statement. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Well, it's not often I wear a watch because... | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
-A watch... -Oh, this one's... | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
This is a Girard Perregaux Sideview LED watch. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
That sounds expensive. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Yeah, I mean, a lot of the watches, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
-you know, big watch companies, did make the... -Yes. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
-..and GP was a company that made 'em. -What do you pay for them now? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:15 | |
Well, I mean, the high end ones, I mean a lot of the, like the P1 | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
or the Tiffany & Co calculators, they're very difficult to come by so... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:24 | |
-So this was 2,000 when it was new? -Yeah. -What is it now? | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
Well, if you was to find one in the box with the magnet, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
it's got a gold magnet, it's gone as high as 17,500. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
-17,000? -Dollars, yes. 17,500. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
So it really is the gold dust in... | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Oh, it is, the Pulsar P1 is... | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
-But how many have you got? -Around about 85 watches. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
-And more to come? -Well, there's a few key pieces I want, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
but if they do come up for sale, there's a lot of collectors... | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
Does it cause domestic stress? | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
Well, she's got you know, many pairs of shoes, so she can't complain. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
-But this is a bit more expensive. -Now, this is a very important thing to tell the nation, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
-us men collectors have to fight back. -Yeah. Exactly. -The only other thing I'd like to say is, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
-I think those are great, and Andrew Grima... -Yes. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
..was a fantastic '70s jeweller, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
he had a wonderful shop in Jermyn Street I think with a very stylish front, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
it disappeared, the style went out, so I think in 30 years, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
I don't know that I'd be collecting these watches, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
but I'd certainly be picking the ones by great designers. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
-Exactly. -Thank you. -Thanks very much. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
The Sunday Times Magazine, September 11th 1977, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
and the headline is, or the baseline should I say, "The King is Dead," | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
and here's a fantastic picture of Elvis. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
The Sunday Times was renowned for its fantastic photographic covers, but something else happened in 1977 | 0:28:48 | 0:28:55 | |
of which we all here are all part of, which was the birth of the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 | |
So, how many of these things have you got? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
We've got them all around us. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Well, I started collecting them in 1970 at the very beginning. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
-Right. -So I've got over 1,800 copies. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
That's quite incredible. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
Why did you start? Do you just like hoarding paper? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
No, I don't think it was a decision that I just said, "I will keep them," | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
I just happened to start keeping them, then I had a reason to keep them, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
which was that we were due to have our first child at the end of 1970, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
so I thought, here's something that might reflect | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
the period that she was born into, and thereafter. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
-A sort of cabinet of curiosities. -That's right. -I think it's absolutely fantastic. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
-This is particularly grim, they do quite a lot on Cambodia, don't they? -Yes, all the world's hot spots... | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
And here's another lovely one with John Lennon, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
"Ticket to Ride, unseen pictures of The Beatles | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
-"when they won the Wild West". -Yes. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
A very nostalgic picture there, and this of course I think is, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
is quite remarkable, um, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
photography in the womb, and this is how it appears | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
on the front of the Sunday Times Magazine | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
for September 16th 1990. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
So, how much do you think you've spent over the years? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
Well, it currently costs about £2 a copy, I suppose if you average it over 37 years, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
it might be £1, so we're talking about £1,800. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
£1,800. Does your wife resent it? | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
No, of course not. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
And last, but by no means least, the, the chinful wonder | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
who we've all come to know and love, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
who now presents the Antiques Roadshow, and this dates from 1970. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
-Yes. -This is Michael Aspel 37 years ago, not a grey hair in sight. -No. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
"Listen to what Michael Aspel has to say about | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
"the world's greatest work of reference." | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
And you get a free disc with it, it's quite incredible. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
I mean, all these ones here, | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
-they're so exciting I could actually sit down and read them all over again. -It's a good read. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
-It's like a dentist's waiting room gone mad, isn't it? -That's where I collected them from! | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
And to think that all these years, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I've been putting them out for the recycling, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
but they are, and you're quite right, I can see it, they are a sort of, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
a chronicle of the time we live in. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
Well, I do know that over the internet, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
certain numbers, you know, things, an Elvis number, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
would certainly go for £10 or £15. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
-I would imagine that Charles and Di would do the same, wouldn't it? -Yes. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
-But I think that you've got £5,000 worth I reckon. -Very good. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:38 | |
These two lovely watercolours by Mary Fedden, are you a fan of hers? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
Yes, I am, really on both occasions you know, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
they more or less jumped off the wall of the gallery | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
and I decided in a matter of minutes that I would buy 'em. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
And did you buy these in the years that they were painted, 1999, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
-and 1998? -No. No. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
In each case I bought them about two years, I must be the second owner. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
-She's a wonderful artist and very much in vogue now because she was born in 1915. -Yes. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
-And she's still painting as we're talking now. -Yes, yes. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
And lives in London and she was married to Julian Trevelyan, another artist. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
Yes, I know she was married to Julian Trevelyan and she didn't paint very much during that time. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
What is so interesting at the moment, the way the market taste has changed, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
at the moment, people love these sort of modern images, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
it's very whimsical this one on the right. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Yes, it's almost allegorical I think. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
-Wonderful, and the one on the left here looks a bit Cornish. -Yes. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
-Do you know where it was painted? -It was painted, it's called Lostwithiel. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
-Is it? -So, er, I assume it was painted there, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
it was in a period when she was ill and she'd gone to Cornwall | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
to recuperate after this illness | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
and I think she painted a little bit, but not very much. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
The one on the left here is a watercolour and actually it's got a bit of gouache on there, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
heightened with gouache, and the one on the right here is watercolour with gouache, mixed media really. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:25 | |
She's actually an important artist now and as these artists get older, people are looking at their work, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:32 | |
-and certainly Mary Fedden and Julian Trevelyan, and they're considered very important British artists. -Yes. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:38 | |
She taught at the Royal College of Art. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
-Mm. -She did murals for the Festival of Britain in 1951. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
-Oh, right. -Yeah. -I didn't know that. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
-And you know, she is considered important today. -Mm. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
What did you pay for these? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
-Er, I think I paid about £1,500 for this one. -Yeah. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
And I paid about £3,000 for this one. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
Well, what is interesting about what you paid for them then, and what's happened now, because, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
-in the 21st Century, the taste has gone very much for the modern and also onto abstract artists. -Yes. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:09 | |
-Right up to the contemporary with her... -Yes. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
And she has also gained huge popularity in the last few years. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:18 | |
The one on the left here is certainly worth... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
in auction today £5,000 to £7,000. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
-Yes. -At least. -Mm. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
The one down here, on the right, I think is most unusual for her, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
I'm sure you've seen many of her still life paintings. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
Oh, yes, I have, a lot of you know, bowls of flowers in windows... | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
-Absolutely, and these... -..and cats and, er... -These are out of the ordinary for her, aren't they? | 0:34:38 | 0:34:43 | |
-They're different subject matter. -Yes, they are. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
So the one on the right here, I think would make certainly £6,000 to £9,000. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
Yes. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
-Well, I'm not thinking of selling them. -Good, I think they're a very good investment, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
-but you didn't buy them because of that. -No, I bought them because I liked them. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
There are many times on the Roadshow where I'm confronted by a collection that... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
stops me in my tracks, this is one of them. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
This is the crown jewel in the camera world I think, for me, I have never seen a collection of Nikons like this | 0:35:09 | 0:35:16 | |
in one place at one time and I suspect I'm very unlikely to ever see a collection like this again. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
Where have they all come from? What started you off? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Owning a Praktica 35 years ago. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
-A Praktica? -Yes. -You see to me, that's a real workhorse, isn't it, that's the basic of basic cameras. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
They were great cameras, I mean you could knock nails in wood, but... | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
having said that, they weren't very good, very reliable and the picture quality wasn't all it could be, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
so, er, and the next step was to buy something half way decent, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
-which was a Nikon F. -A Nikon F. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
Well, let's look at the history a little bit of Nikon because | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
-the company started as a manufacturer of military lenses and things, didn't it? -Yes. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
There was something like 25 factories, with 23,000 people working for Nippon Kogaku, | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
-which means the Japanese optical industry. -Right. And in that period, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
they were producing for mainly gun sites, all kind of optical instruments for military use, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:11 | |
but the end of the war came, and the allies forbid them | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
to produce anything for military purposes. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
They were virtually bankrupt at the end of the Second World War, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
and they were looking for a market, and the market was cameras, and they went with this product. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
To me, when I think of Nikon, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
I think of photo journalism, and we've got the F Series. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Well, the F has become a legend. It came out in 1959, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
and has photographed every major incident around the world. It was there when Kennedy was shot, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
-it was there when man walked on the moon. -Let's pick out an F series. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
Um, there are various ones, this one for instance, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
a very early F, very basic. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
Photo journalists wanted to use these cameras, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
they were a good robust camera, the main people that we know, people like Tim Page, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
photographers in the Vietnam War used these kind of cameras and would often say they were bullet proof. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
-They were. -I don't know how many Nikon Fs saved people's lives. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Quite a few, I've seen a few pictures of Nikon Fs where they've | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
been hit with a bullet there | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
-and the camera and the lens has stopped the bullet. -Really? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
-Yes. -So there is a bit of reality in that. -Of course, yes. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
-It's not just an urban myth. -And also they were wrapped up in plastic bags after being chased by Viet Cong and, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:23 | |
they were dumped in water and left there for maybe a week sealed in a plastic bag, you know, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
with an elastic band around, and picked up later so the photographers would not lose the pictures. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
Quite incredible. I'm staggered by this collection, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
absolutely staggered. I could talk to you for days | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
about what is just on this table. Is this the whole collection, or...? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
-No? -No, it's about 5% of what I've got at home. -5%? | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
But essentially, if I said there's £150,000 worth on this table, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
-I'd be being conservative, would I? -Very, yes. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-You'd get the half of it probably. -That's it then! That's enough for me today. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
This has got an amazingly ancient look about it. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
Yeah, that's because it probably is older than the Dead Sea Scrolls... | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Older than the Dead Sea Scrolls. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
-Perhaps. -Well, they were around...nought, weren't they? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:18 | |
-Um, this would be around the Han Dynasty. -That's right. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
Um, like the terracotta figures, a very unusual thing, where did you find it? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:29 | |
Unfortunately, it wasn't in my family, I found it in a flea market | 0:38:29 | 0:38:35 | |
in south east London a few years ago on a Sunday afternoon. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
-OK. -Yes. -Did they tell you what it was? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Well, it was really unlikely, it was kind of amongst loads of just house clearance things, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
and the guy didn't really seem very interested in it and, um, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
I'd just finished a part-time archaeology course and my eye was just really intrigued by it. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:56 | |
-Ah, right. -I knew because it had kind of sandy earth, I presumed it was some type of funeral offering. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:04 | |
-Er, yes, indeed these were grave goods. -Right. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Almost invariably they were buried and having been dug up, | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
you get this incrustation and you get all this wonderful colour building up here. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:15 | |
-Is it cast bronze? -This is, this is cast bronze, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
and the copper is coming through, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
and that's because of acid attack by the soil. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
The thing that worries me is that this would normally be what we call a Bi Disc, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:30 | |
-B-I, which actually has a hole in the middle. -Yeah, I've seen those. -You've seen those? -Yes. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
And were they buried under the elbows and above the head? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
-They were all over the place. -Yes. -And nobody has any idea what they were meant for, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
-it's supposed to be for discerning the future and stuff. -Yeah, I read somewhere when I was researching it, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
-the really rich people had like shrouds of jade... -That's right, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
this would have been buried with somebody with, of serious.. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
-What sort of level of... -Oh, serious, highly important official. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
-Like a priest? -Probably not a priest, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
but a highly important official would have this. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
Now, how much did you pay for it? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
Well, he wanted like £50, and I had no money and I bartered him down to 30 quid. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:12 | |
OK, now I'm going to put you out of your misery. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-How old is it? -Couple of years. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
Oh, no! You're joking, are you joking? | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
-Are you joking? -I'm not. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
-Oh, no! -I'm sorry, I'm sorry. -Oh! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:28 | |
-I'm really upset. -But hang on, I haven't finished yet. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
-I haven't finished yet. -Oh, God, my life's over. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
-No, it's not. -I thought it was important... -It's not. -OK. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Listen, we are looking to the future. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
-This class of ware, this class of ware is coming from China. -Mmm. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:48 | |
They are casting it, they are carving it... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
-Yes. -..because they still can afford the skilled craftsmen to do it. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
-This is... -Is it cast from an original? -No, I don't think so. It's a fantastic bit of work. | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
-This is my prediction for the future. -Yes. -Now, you will not normally hear an expert, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:07 | |
-as so called, predicting that a forgery was something to buy. -It's like a stab to the heart! | 0:41:07 | 0:41:14 | |
But if you can find that for 30 quid, go out and buy them. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
Your children are going to thank you. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
-Oh, God! -Thank you for being so brave. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
-Oh, I'm so upset about that. -I'm sorry. -I love it though. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
-I'll always keep it. -For 30 quid, I would have bought that... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
I'd always envisaged, I thought it was like 2,400 years old... | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
Listen, if this was real, it would be worth close on a million pounds. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
Oh, God! Oh, I love it though, thank you for letting me know about it. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
It feels like a real party atmosphere today, here we are in the sunshine at the sea front. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
-What we really need's a bit of rock and roll, thank you for bringing it. -My pleasure. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
-So, Rock-Ola, Chicago Company, 1960s jukebox. -Yes. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:04 | |
Are you a passionate jukebox man? | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Jukebox and rock and roll, yes. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
-I'd never have guessed! -No. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
So this is one of what, several jukeboxes you've got? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
I've got two and I've got a third one on its way. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
And a whole lot of records, it looks like. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Hundreds and hundreds. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
-So there are what, 50 in here? -Yes, 50. -50 in here. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
And I mean, the thing about this, which is a small Rock-Ola because you know, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
sometimes they're much wider, bigger, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
is I suppose this fits into a small, more domestic scene rather than a cafe or a club. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:37 | |
Well, this particular model we used to have in the '60s | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
in the coffee bars in Tunbridge Wells where I used to live. This model was in all the coffee bars. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
-So, that's why I got it, as nostalgia. -So it takes you right back. -Right back. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
OK, so it's a piece of nostalgia, but it's a valuable piece of nostalgia. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
I would have thought today we're talking about £2,000, £2,500. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
And I think we ought to just let it play out, when what else could it play us out on, except... | 0:42:59 | 0:43:05 | |
-J9? -J9. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
MUSIC: "Summertime Blues" by Eddie Cochran | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
Can you jive? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
I can. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
Well, I think that's what's known as a successful exercise. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
We have confirmed that modernism is alive and well and has a great future. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
I have to admit to a great affinity with this building, the De La Warr Pavilion, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
because we were both dreamed up in the same year. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
The difference is, the building still looks exciting. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Many thanks to everyone who helped us with this special edition, and from Bexhill-on-Sea, goodbye. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:15 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 |