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We've come back to one of the Roadshow's most impressive venues - | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Arundel Castle, home of the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
They've opened their doors to us before, so we know what to expect. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Beginners, please. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
It still smells of seaweed. Why's that? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
It was actually covered with seaweed and full of silt when I found it | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-on the beach last week. -Oh, right. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
And I was out fishing at the time, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
came across this, and I thought it was just a clump of seaweed on a rock | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
and when I actually looked under it, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
it was covered with silt up to about that area. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
-Right. And then you saw there was a handle and... -And everything else. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
-Great jug! So where was this beach? -In Littlehampton. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Off the seafront at Littlehampton. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Right, well, did you know what you'd found? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
I knew it was some sort of jug, but I thought it was... | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
-I thought it was a special garden feature. -Yeah? -But, er... | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
But actually what you've found is a medieval jug. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
-Right. -We're looking at a piece here that dates from the 14th century. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
-That early? -That early, yes. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Made probably in Surrey. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
What you've got here is some painted decoration, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
-which is very distinctive of these English medieval jugs. -Right. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
And because of its sheer size when full, to help use it, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
they've put a little spout on there, which is always a nice feature. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Underneath the barnacles, which I'm sure will clean up, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
you've got a typical bib of green glaze. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
That is glaze, is it? It's not seaweed or anything? | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
The green colour is natural glaze. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-Right. -This is barnacles and things | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
but there's the green glaze of a Surrey type. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
-So it's actually local? -Pretty well local. -Pretty well local. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Yes, and it's pretty damaged but, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
even so, I think after a bit of repair and, and work, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
a jug like this is going to be... | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
-somewhere between £1,000 and £2,000. -That much? | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
-That's not bad at all. -Just to think where it's been all that time. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
-This heavy clock - somebody brought it in for you earlier. -Yes. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
So I've had a chance to have a sneak preview, thank goodness, because | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
it doesn't play very well, but it appears to play God Save the Queen, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
-or the King. Is that your...? -It does, yes. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Right. So, it's a bit of a mystery, to be honest with you. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
The dial is wrong. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Mr Fisher, Fisher and Sons, exist... | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
They were working 1790-1810 and that's probably fairly perfect | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
for this clock, which was just around the end of the 18th century, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
beginning of the 19th century. But the dial has been changed. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
-OK. -And I think, if you look at it | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and you look at the beautiful engraving and piercing | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
of this fretwork and then you look at that dial centre... | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
-Right. -It doesn't cut it, does it? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
It's a bit crude. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
It might have been a painted dial. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
-Right, yeah. -And somebody, perhaps 50 years ago, has thought, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
"No, I'm not going to repaint it, I'll make a brass dial to fit." | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
-Right. OK. -And I think that's what's happened. -Right. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
So, I have never seen a clock, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
to my knowledge... I know it plays several tunes... | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
that appears to play the National Anthem. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-OK. -And we adopted the National Anthem, apparently, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
sometime after the 1750s. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
MUSIC: "God Save The King" | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
-You're right... -CLOCK CHIMES | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
..it is "God Save The King", | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
as it would have been at this time, George III on the throne, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
played on a series of bells with quite an elaborate sort of tune. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
But as I've already said, I've never seen that before. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Now, when you look at the movement, and I won't go into any real detail, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
the style of the engraving, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
the signature which we can just make out behind the bell here, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
that's all perfectly OK, and it reinforces what I've said before - | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
you've got a very fine case, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:45 | |
a very nice movement, beautifully finished, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and this rather crude dial. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
So I think...I'm afraid I'm going to have to say conclusively | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
that that was probably white-painted, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
the painting fell apart, and they've changed it to brass. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
And to be honest with you, if it was mine, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
I think I'd be tempted to repaint the dial. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
But, sorry, I haven't asked you where you got it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
It was given to my great uncle, apparently from a titled lady | 0:05:10 | 0:05:16 | |
who came from Plymouth, but I've no other history to it. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
OK. Value-wise, despite the dial, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
which I think would be quite easily spotted, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
it's probably worth something of the order of... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
£5,000... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-even with the dial changed. -Right. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
-It's got a certain appeal. -Very good. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
This I like, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
and I like it particularly | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
-because it's not what one might expect it to be. -Mm. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
-Now what it is, is Japanese so-called Satsumaware. -Yes. | 0:05:54 | 0:06:00 | |
And it would date from around the end of the 19th, early 20th century. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
-Yes. -I don't know if you've got any knowledge of... | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-Yes, our grandfather was going to Japan at that time. -Was he? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
So I should think that's it, yes. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
He was in Liverpool, London and Globe Insurance. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
He was the general manager | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-and he travelled to Japan all the time on business. -Ah. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Well, what you might have expected it to be | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
is by one of the great makers of Satsuma... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Kinkozan, Yabu Meizan or Ryozan. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
-Yes. -But it ain't. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-No. -It's by somebody one has seen before but doesn't see very often, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
-and his name is here. -Yes. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Unzan. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
-Unzan actually means "cloudy mountain". -Mm. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-And then you've got the Satsuma mon up here. -Yes. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
And Kyoto. So it's not actually Satsuma, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
it's Kyoto, and actually many of the Satsuma factories were in Kyoto. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
-Yes. -It's decorated, breathtakingly, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
with scenes of warriors in a landscape | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
and a panel here of a painter. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-He's painted this screen of a dragon. -Yes. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
-And all the characters are coming to life. -Ah. Fascinating. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
-Yeah, that's what's going on here. -I see, yeah. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
And it's separated by this fantastic dragon here. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
-Dragon, yes. -But the bit I love... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
These spuming waves are just magical, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
absolutely superbly done. Now... | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
-I didn't notice. I didn't look at it closely enough. -You haven't? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
Well, people don't, you know, nobody looks at their own objects. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Where does it sit at home? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
It usually sits on a bookcase in the sitting room. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
OK, and who dusts it? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
-We do. -Seldom. -Right, ah, that's what I want to hear. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Seldom dusting is what I like. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-No cats? -No! -No pussy cats, no. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
I mean it is in stonkingly good condition | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-and it's a wonderful vase. -Yes. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
And I think it would probably make around... | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
£2,000 to £4,000. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-Would it really? My goodness, yes. -Wonderful! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Thank you so much. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
Reading these articles, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
it's quite clear that this picture scares some people rigid. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Yes, it does, indeed. I mean, it scared a few of our friends. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
When we moved house, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
and friends came to the house, our friends said, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
"You've got that man here again." | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Friends do think that his eyes do follow them, definitely. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
And you think it might also be haunted. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
-Yes, I do. -Because certainly the | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
-information that you've handed me suggests that he is. -Yes. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
But before we come to that, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
let's talk about the man himself. Do you know anything about him? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Yes, his name's John Whiteley, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
but he's otherwise known as John Almighty. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
And you can see here that he's the lynx-eyed thief-catcher general... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
And...yes, indeed. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
For Halifax in 1832. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
His followers at the time painted this painting for him. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
He was a local dignitary, a local landlord. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
He married the local landlady | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
of The Star public house in Sowerby Bridge in West Yorkshire. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
-He started up a preaching group within the pub. -Nice one! -Yeah. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
-So, pulled pints and gave religion! -And a religious preacher as well. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
But the picture has a little bit of a past | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
and it worries people and it haunts people. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
-Have you been haunted by it yourself, did you say? -We have. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
When it hung in our Yorkshire cottage my husband and I were downstairs | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
and recently had our daughter who was three months old asleep in bed, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
well, in her cot, and we had the baby monitor on. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Everything was very quiet and suddenly we heard Brahms' Lullaby | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
being sung over the monitor, and I was really quite frightened. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
-I bet you were. -I sent my husband immediately up the stairs, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I couldn't go up myself, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
and I said, "I'll just stay down here and continue to listen," | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
and the moment he got to the top of the stairs, it stopped. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
I tiptoed and got to the very top stair opposite the bedroom, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
and, as my foot touched the landing, the music stopped immediately. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:29 | |
-That's spooky. -It was spooky. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
And reading the articles back here | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
about the history of the picture, when it used to hang in the pub, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
-clearly it's got a haunted past as well. -It has. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Oh, yes, yeah. There are newspaper clippings there | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
from the 1950s and this is when the locals starting hearing songs | 0:10:41 | 0:10:47 | |
mysteriously coming about. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-Much like your experience. -Much like ours. -Yes. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Well, this is fascinating. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
I reckon there's a reason why people think it's haunted, although having | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
said that, when I touched the glass earlier on, the glass broke. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
-It did. -It did. -Haunted or what? -Must be. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
About this time, portraiture is very formal, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
we're talking about the 1830s and '40s. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Regency glamour is beginning to subside and it's very stiff, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
but here we've got a meritocrat, | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
someone who's not part of society as we know it, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
he's a concentrated eccentric, one might say a brilliant weirdo, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
so it's allowed the portrait painter, who is no great painter, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
-let's face it... -No. -And the condition is not great either. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It's a primitive work but it's allowed a little bit of chuckle, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
a bit of mirth, and as a result, the character presents itself, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
it almost exudes a bit more. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
Eyes following you round the room... You've heard of that, we all have. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
-Yes. -This is the type of picture, because the artist is not working | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
within the harness of society, that sort of reaches you. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
It doesn't surprise me at all | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
that this has got a haunted past, or a haunted association. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
It's an unusually characterful work | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
by a primitive painter who hasn't any of the constraints | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
that society portrait painters normally suffer from. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Presented with that history, in that frame, with all those ghosts | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
batting around the place, I'd value it at around about £2,500. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-Thank you very much. -Yes, OK. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
This is a fantastic example of modern political correctness | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
allied to Victorian commercial expediency. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
-Really? -I'll explain all this later, but what do you know about it? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Well, my grandmother purchased it in a junk shop | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
in Greenwich in the early 1920s. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Right, I imagine that was a good hunting ground. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
I would think it was a very good hunting ground, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
and she didn't know what was inside it. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
You obviously know what's inside, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
I've obviously had a quick look, but let's look together. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
And it is spectacular! | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Row upon row | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
of tiny butterflies with identification numbers, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
graduating down | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
to larger butterflies - wonderful colour, wonderful condition... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:14 | |
..to the bottom drawer with the largest of all. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Now, why I say | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
it's politically correct is, of course, they're not butterflies. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
They're made of paper, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
they are not actual butterflies, and these were taken from a book | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
printed in England in the middle of the 19th century, about 1850-1855, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
of British butterflies and moths. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
They were cut out of the book and coloured after. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-They're lithographs. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
So it's English book printing paper. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
-Oh, right. -With a lithograph print and later hand-coloured. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
So some enterprising entrepreneur somewhere had these books | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
or had the pages printed and was able to supply any number | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
of aspiring Victorian gentleman naturalists | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
without having to go to the trouble of finding butterflies. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
The case that it's in is also English but it's decorated to look | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
-like a Japanese lacquer casket. -Yes. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Because so many of the painted butterflies were Oriental, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
on rice paper, and it's quite | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
a common decorative and fashionable finish | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
of the period. It's charming. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
My guess is that to a decorative antiques dealer it's worth somewhere | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-in the region of £800. -Really? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Might try and sell it for a bit more, but not a lot. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
No. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
I think one of those bits of | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
information that everybody has in school days - I certainly did, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
and I'm sure you did - is that | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
penicillin was discovered by Alexander Fleming. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
-Yes, very much so. -Graham Bell did the telephone. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
-Yes. -And Fleming did penicillin. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
But this material all seems to relate to Fleming, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
so where do you fit into the Fleming story? | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Well, my father went to work directly from school at the tender age of 14 | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
in the Inoculation Department of St Mary's Hospital, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-where Fleming was working too, as a bacteriological researcher. -Right. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
And my father stayed there until he retired in 1967. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
So what date did he join? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
It would have been in 1921. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Right, at a very early age indeed. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
-Just before penicillin was discovered. -Right. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
-Penicillin, I think, is 1928 or something? -That's right, yes. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
So he was actually there when this great discovery was made? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Initially very much as a general boy, cleaning and that sort of thing, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
but in due course, he qualified as a medical laboratory technician... | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-Yes. -And he became a technical assistant to Fleming. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
And did he talk about that moment of discovery? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, I don't think he was so | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
much conscious at that time, he was still fairly young, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
but it did become part of his life after that. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
So it wasn't a "eureka" moment? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
I don't think so. Well even for | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
Fleming it wasn't, really, because it wasn't recognised for about 10 years. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
-Yes. -It was very difficult to | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
extract the penicillin from the mould itself that produced the penicillin. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-Right. -And initially they could only produce little odd amounts, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
just enough to experiment on terminal patients, and so that, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
at least, did have some effect. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
-So which is Fleming? -Fleming is here. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
-Is your father in this? -No, this is just the doctors. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-Because he was too junior? -Very much so. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-He didn't make the cut? -No. -So, that's Fleming? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-That's Fleming. -OK. And this is Fleming again, isn't it? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
This is a portrait, actually endorsed | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
in original by Fleming to my father. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
That's - "To Dan, with best wishes". | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-Yes. -So, it was a sort of acknowledgement of his help? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
-Oh, very much so, yes. -Very much so. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
I have an original mould here which is endorsed by Fleming on the back. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:53 | |
-Hang on, so this is the culture? -That is what the mould looks like. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Fleming was a very untidy man. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
And he used to experiment on what are called Petri dishes, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
and he went off on holiday one day | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
leaving a large quantity of these lying around unwashed. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
And when he came back, he happened | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
to look at them and he found that several of them had got odd moulds | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
something like this on them, and all around the bacteria had been cleared. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-So it was pure chance? -It was pure chance. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Now, I think we all know the impact of penicillin really, was in WWII. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
-Very much so. -I mean suddenly, ghastly wounds, gunshot wounds | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
-and so on, could be cured. -Yes. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
"The mould that produced penicillin, Alexander Fleming 1951". | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
-That's correct. -So this must be a very rare thing? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
It is a very rare thing. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-One was sold at auction for £20,000. -Good God! | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
I'm fully aware that with auctions it's up and down, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-you need two people... -I think all we can say | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-is that it's a very valuable, very rare item. -Yes. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
And if you were concerned with medical history, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
a piece of the original culture, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
endorsed by Fleming, it must be the gold bar - there is nothing like it. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
-Are you keeping it? -Yes. -Good. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
We were thinking of selling, but my son said, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-"You will not!" -I think he's got the right idea. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
So thank you, tell him to hang on to it, this is great history. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-Yes, that's right. -Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Do you know, I'm tempted to describe this classical female | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
as a fine figure of a woman. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Yes, I'm sure. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
And she's actually looking into | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
a mirror and I can see from this side, it actually is a mirror. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
-I know. -Incredible! But the detail is fabulous. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
So it begs the question - how long has she been reflecting, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
and is she a member of your family for some time? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Well, I've grown up with it really, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
and when my grandmother died, the ornaments were dispersed. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
-Yes. -And I got these two. -You lucky lady. -I'm very lucky. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
Very lucky lady. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
From an anatomical point of view, she's very, very well carved. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
-Isn't she? -It's, you know, taking the figure into account, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
she's patinated bronze, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
which is in lovely condition, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
and the ivory is good also. These figures, their value is affected | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
by cracks that often appear, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
so be careful with air conditioning and suchlike. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
But it's a bit of a compromise, as you've got this classical maiden, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
and then you've got this fabulous Art Deco base. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
So we're obviously talking 1930s | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
with something like this, and it's in Brazilian green onyx, OK? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Now I can't pretend to be psychic, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
-but if there's a signature on this piece - and there is? -Yes, there is. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
-OK. I bet your life it says "F Preiss". -Yes, yes! | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
-Ferdinand Preiss. -You're on. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
Well, she's a fine looking lady and she's probably going to be worth | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
somewhere in the region of around about £4,000 or £5,000. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
-Really? -Nothing to you people in Arundel, nothing to you people in Arundel! | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
But as much as I like this girl, I like the twins. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Now let's have a look at this clock, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
because this is where we've got a connection between this catalogue, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
which is for Phillips and McConnell, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
who were the fine art galleries in New Bond Street. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
But just looking through, I had a sneaky look and I noticed | 0:20:07 | 0:20:13 | |
that here, we've got a very similar clock. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Not identical but, I mean, I think obviously you had a choice of dial, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
but the geometry of the thing is an absolute joy, isn't it? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
But having looked at this, as I say, I can't find a signature, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
so we're looking at Ferdinand Preiss here, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
but here we've got nothing to go by, but... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
I make a bee line for the feet, and I check out... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
I could have been a podiatrist in a previous life, because | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
you check out for the toenails, and they're so exquisitely carved. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
And I'm looking at the faces and the technique with the eyes is very, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
very similar to the work of Preiss. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
I can't see this being anybody else at the moment but Ferdinand Preiss. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Who was he? Who was Ferdinand Preiss? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
He was quite an interesting character. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
He was basically taking an art that had been established | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
in Germany and in Bavaria, in the way of ivory carving | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
throughout centuries, really bringing it up to date. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I mean, you would find that the characters were | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
usually so typical of their age. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
These girls, they've got bobbed hair, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
so they've got to be sort of 1925-1930 flappers. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
By the same token he would often do sort of very Aryan-type subjects, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
so you might get sportsmen, tennis players, javelin throwers... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
You might even get Amy Johnson, the great aviator of the age. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
So the great thing about these figures is they reflect the period. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-You know, from 100 yards away, this is Art Deco, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
So I think you get a double whammy with the clock - | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
you get a functional object and you get two very lithe ladies. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
So I wouldn't be surprised to see that being estimated somewhere | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
-in the region of around about £6,000 to £8,000. -Wow! | 0:22:02 | 0:22:08 | |
Great man, good name. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
The minute I saw these lovely milky vellum bindings, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
with their original ties, I knew we were in for a bit of fun. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Nobody could do a title page as well as that. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
And this is Beowulf and it's designed by Burne-Jones | 0:22:21 | 0:22:27 | |
for William Morris, the Kelmscott Press. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
And we've got two Kelmscott Press books | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
here in absolutely superb condition. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Where did you get them from? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
I got them from my godfather, who left them to me in his will. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
He'd only had them three years. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
He bought them as an investment and then he died, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
and left them to my wife and me, and we've treasured them ever since. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
And, knowing that they are, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
I would say, unique, we've been very reluctant to open them | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
unless we really had to, because of the fear of damage, even fingers. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
Oh, yes, absolutely. Fabulous, fabulous. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-Isn't it wonderful? -Absolutely fabulous. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
-And printed in colours too. -All in colour. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Red and blue and black, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
-but it's so unusual to have the original ties. -Indeed. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
You're very fortunate that we have. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
-Why? -Well, that one in particular, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
the ties are getting a little tatty, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
and my wife was tempted to replace them. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I don't believe it! You can't go round doing things like that. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-The original ties - I mean, that's incredible. -Well, all is well, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
because she was dissuaded from doing so | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and here they are in mint condition, I hope. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
Absolutely fantastic. So we've got Beowulf here. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
-Beowulf there. -And this one is signed by William Morris. -Indeed. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
And show me the title page of that one. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
This is Love Is Enough. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
There it is, quite simply, Love Is Enough, or - | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
The Freeing of Pharamond: A Morality, written by William Morris. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
Yes, it's absolutely superb. Well, I think that's fantastic. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
-Now, what about value? -Oh! Heaven only knows! | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
We treasure them, but I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to start. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:07 | |
Well, I think this one, this one which is actually | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
by William Morris but not signed, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
is going to be the best part of £800 to £900, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
whereas this one, which is signed by William Morris | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
and has all the same characteristics | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
as all his books have, is going to be in the region of £1,500. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
Wow! Well, I think my insurer is in for a headache. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
Don't tell him, don't tell him! | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Not one, not two, but three car mascots. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:45 | |
It's rather like the bus, isn't it? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
You can wait for an hour and then suddenly three come along. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
And three separate owners for three separate mascots. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
Well, let's start with the bird. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-That's mine. -Tell me about it. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Well, I know very little about it. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
I gained custody of it when my husband and I split up, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
so I'm very interested to know a bit more about it. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
OK, well, the thing they have in common, these car mascots, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
is this huge circular button. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
You haven't got the radiator cap into which this screws, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
but the other two illustrate exactly how that would have happened. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
But it also means that we can see that there is a bit of chipping | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
on here, which we have to take into account when it comes to valuing. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Sadly, some of that chipping | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
actually eats into the name of the maker. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
And the other thing they all have in common | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
is they are all by the same maker. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
Now tell me about yours, because yours is the frog? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
I was working on this house and the lady said, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
"Clear out the sheds." | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
And I cleared them out, so it's been in the garage. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
And you've kept the original radiator cap? | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Well, I thought it was like a...screwed into the bonnet | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
of the car because it lights up. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
It does indeed and if we actually unscrew it here, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
let's just do that. There is the place where the electric wire | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
will pass through into the housing, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
and inside the housing there is, or there should be, a little bulb. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
And it's under that filter. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
But what a shame, look at that, that's really serious damage. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
But I suppose once it's inside that housing, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
once that goes over the top of it, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
-you don't see it. -You don't, no. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
So let's not worry too much about it. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
But also on the side of there is the famous name, Lalique. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
And then we come to the final | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
piece de resistance... | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
not one, but five horses. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
Tell me about this one? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Cinq Chevaux, I think it's called. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
-Cinq Chevaux, yes. -It was my aunt's. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I understand it was on a five horse-power Citroen, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
which is one of the earliest ones that Lalique made. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
-My aunt had this on her mantlepiece and I got a transformer made. -Yes. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
So that she could have it alight in the early evenings. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
So even though you haven't got the car, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
you've got the whole thing lit up, as it would have been. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
But what you've got inside here is a filter, or at least a piece | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
of two-coloured glass that has the effect of splintering the light, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
so it gives you, presumably, a sort of, rather a refracted spooky light. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
-Yeah. -Right. OK, well, I'm going to put you out of your miseries. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
The falcon... This magnificent, you know, thrusting along the corniche, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
you can see it, can't you, with the light going? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
That, in that state, is going to be somewhere of the order of £1,000. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:46 | |
-Really? -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
That's not too bad, is it? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
That's excellent. I didn't even expect... | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Well, just didn't, no. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
The frog, the much smaller, little baby frog, it is damaged underneath. | 0:27:54 | 0:28:00 | |
If it were in perfect condition, it would be worth a lot more. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
But I'm going to say, even in this condition, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
we're looking at the region of £3,000 to £5,000. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
Cor... I'll throw my tools away! | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
OK, and what about the five horses? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
That is, in fact, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
probably the rarest of the trio, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
and one is looking at a price | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
somewhere in the region of £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
In fact, if you all club together, you could buy a car! | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
So would you say bravery runs in the family? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Definitely on my wife's side. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
My wife was very brave to marry me, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
and she's obviously inherited it from this man here. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
This is my wife's grandfather, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
-who was awarded a medal for bravery in the field. -The MM group, exactly. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
I mean it's a lovely group of medals here you've got, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
and the great thing is, you've got | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
these bits and pieces that go with it and tell the complete story. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
That's right, and we have photographs of him as a young man, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
as a man at college... | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
And what was he actually awarded the medal for? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
He was awarded the medal for particular courage | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
when laying cables under shell fire, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
and communications was a very important part in WWI, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
between February and August 1916. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
I mean, presumably they were blown up on a daily basis almost? | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
Well, I mean, when one looks at the history of WWI, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
-life was very short in those days. -Exactly. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
This is from the War Office - that came with the bravery award, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
which illustrates how he got the bravery award. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
And we have an invitation from the Mayor of the Ville de Cassel | 0:29:41 | 0:29:47 | |
in France to the victory celebrations. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-How lovely. -Along with the menu that they sported on that day. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:56 | |
Looks like quite a lunch on that one. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
Yes, yes, I've thought of going back there | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
-and seeing if I could order the same thing. -This is quite something. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
I mean, he's got the war group there | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
and then the bravery, or the MM medal. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
Really with the whole complete package here, it gives | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
a real insight into what life would have been like. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
I mean, you've got the dispatches here... | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
"Shown particular courage and | 0:30:20 | 0:30:21 | |
"determination while laying cables under heavy shell fire". | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
Presumably they were telephone cables? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
-Yes. -Which under the heavy barrage of artillery day in, day out, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
would have had to have been done | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
over time and time again, so it really is quite remarkable | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
what you've got. I mean really, and I know value will be of no interest | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
to you at all, because to have these is part of your family's history. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
But, as a value, you'd put somewhere between £500 and £700 on as a group, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:51 | |
and I'm just delighted to have seen them. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
Well, we'd never think of selling them, and particularly | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
this item here, which incidentally has the Cross of Lorraine on it. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
That comes from the earlier Jacobite past of this family, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:07 | |
so maybe they were braver further back in those days as well. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
-I mean, obviously his lucky charm. -That's right. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
I understand from reading in the newspapers recently, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
that the habit of taking snuff is coming back into fashion | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
because of the ban on smoking. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
And looking in front of us, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
we've got a really quirky looking snuff container. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
Is it a family piece or what can you tell me about its history? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
Yes, it's come down through the family, several generations, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
from a Lieutenant Colonel Kinnaird, who was commanding the garrison | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
in St Helena when Napoleon was in prison there. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
-He gave this when they formed the officer's mess in 1820. -Right. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
And then, when it was disbanded in 1836, they gave it back to him. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
And since then it's obviously | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
passed its way through the family and here it is now. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
Well, the form of this is fairly well known to me. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
They are pretty much uniquely Scottish. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
And if we look at it in closer detail, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
we can see it's got this great big Cairngorm on the top, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
which is very typical of Scottish snuff containers, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
or snuff mulls as they tended to call them in Scotland. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
But what is absolutely typical is when it has all its tools for making | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
snuff and taking snuff with it, they're very much regimental pieces. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
But what I find particularly interesting, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
it's got a stand as well. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:29 | |
That apparently comes from a plane tree that was brought over as a plant | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
by Mary Queen of Scots, from France, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
planted in Holyrood House and was then blown down in 1817. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
That's what the inscription relates to. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
That's what the inscription says, and somewhere, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
I forget the date, blown down in 1817, I think. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
So actually from the tree planted by Mary Queen of Scots. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
And these sort of lovely feet are typical of the 1820s, and you can | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
just imagine this sliding along | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
a sort of mess table with them all taking snuff in turn. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
It has got some lovely engraving on the horn itself. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
These are the crests, presumably of the Kinnaird family | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
with a regimental crest there. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Inside, I see we've got a very strange-looking liner or container. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
Well, we believe it was from Napoleon's first coffin, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
and they discovered that when they | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
transferred him from St Helena to Paris. He was reburied in Paris. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:31 | |
And when they opened them up, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
there was the lead and the tomb inside and he was inside that one. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
So we really do have a terrific sort of historical document here. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
With a bit of Mary Queen of Scots and Napoleon, and the fact | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
that it's a pretty good-looking object anyway! | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that fetch... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
£7,000 to £10,000. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Really? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
Well, I am surprised. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
Well, it's steeped in history, it's got everything going for it. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
I just think there are some serious collectors out there that | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
would be very interested in trying | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
to buy this for quite a big price, should you ever come to sell it. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
Which I won't. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
What would we do without pockets? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
I mean, I've got glasses and a mobile and a handkerchief and... | 0:34:24 | 0:34:29 | |
The Japanese had a real problem back in the 18th and 19th century - | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
no pockets. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
So they had a little box called an inro, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
and in the inro went medicines, spices, seals, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
little objects which they needed to carry round with them. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
And then, from the inro, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
which could have a number of different cases to it, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
you had a string and a ball with a hole through it | 0:34:57 | 0:35:03 | |
which tightened up the cases. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
And that's called an ojime. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
And on this particular one, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
it's been inlaid in mother of pearl, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
in tortoiseshell, in stained ivory, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
with flowers and an insect, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
sort of locust or mayfly, I think that is. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
That's the bit I used to love as a child, the little insect on the bead. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
-You've known this all your life? -My father was a self-made businessman | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
who sent my mother out to buy a present for a client, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
and she went to the Pantiles in Tunbridge Wells and purchased this. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
-Really? -And, very unlike her, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
she didn't give it to my father to give to his client, she hung onto it. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
And years later, when I was grown up, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
and started to be interested in antiques, I discovered, you know, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
that it was an inro, that was about as far as I knew. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
-And you nabbed it? -Well, I did actually, I did. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
And I took it, yes, I did. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
And this bit is called the netsuke and goes under the belt, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:10 | |
and acts like a toggle, so the belt's there and it hangs like that. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
So not between the fingers? I always assumed they carried it | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
-between their fingers. -No, under the belt. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
Right, right, thank you. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
Now this is in the form of a gourd, or a double gourd really, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:24 | |
and is made of lacquer, which is not a common material | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
for making netsuke from - | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
they're usually wood or ivory, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
occasionally bone. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
That netsuke is worth around £600 to £1,000. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
That? Really? | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
Oh, dear... Gosh. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
The ojime which you so liked, with the insect on, is worth about £500. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:54 | |
-Heavens! -Which leaves us with the inro. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
Pull back the ojime like that | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
and we are able to separate this into sections. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
And if we put it back again, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
we can see that it's decorated | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
in mother of pearl, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
stained ivory, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
tortoiseshell, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
coral, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
coconut shell | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
and probably lacquer there, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
on a burnished gold ground, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
within a silver rim, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
on a ground of very finely-sprinkled gold dust. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:43 | |
Gosh, amazing in something so small, I haven't... | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
It is extraordinary, wonderful work, in a technique we call Shibayama. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
We've got a scene here of a festival cart with flowers. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:59 | |
I think it's probably spring. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
Wonderful, but... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
-that's the real joy. -Oh? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
Believe it or not, it says, "Shibayama, Kasuyuki". | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
Now I don't know Kasuyuki, but he's one of the family, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
so this is actually made by | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
-the Shibayama family. -Good. -Very exciting thing to find. -Gosh. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
It dates from about 1880, somewhere around there. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
So your childhood love, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
your mother's decision to hang onto it, rather than give it away... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
She told me what she paid for it, incidentally. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-Go on, go on, go on. -£12. -And this was in...? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Well, it was about 50 years ago. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
£12, 50 years ago, was a good punt. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
-It was a lot of money. -Quite a lot of money. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
On the other hand, it has gone up a bit. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
It's not gone up 10 times which would make it £120, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
it's not gone up a hundred times, which would make it £1,250. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
It's actually worth about £5,000. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
5,000! Gosh. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
-Oh, I wish she was still alive. -Yeah, she would have loved it, wouldn't she? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
She would have loved it. And my dad would have specially loved it because | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
he didn't appreciate old things, he always called them "second-hand". | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
Great stuff! This is the kind of second-hand I like. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
-Thank you so much. -Thank you very much for bringing it in. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Thank you for telling me so much about it. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
So these are children's book illustrations by Annie Anderson. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
Now, when you first brought these to me, I thought, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
"Oh, prints, prints, prints." | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
I see so many of this kind of thing. And then I thought, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
"Better check..." So we're going to check. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
While I'm tearing the back off this...do you mind? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
-That's fine. -While I'm tearing the back off this... | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
because the only way you'll ever know | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
is if you actually take the glass off and have a proper look... | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
you can tell me how you came by them. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
My dad bought them in Hampstead in the early 1980s. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
And they've been in my bedroom, and now | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-they're in my daughter's bedroom. -Ah, I see. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
But there are five, but my mother | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
had four and my dad had one, and now finally they're together again. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
Oh, that's great. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
So what you have to do is, you have to take the back off, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
and straightaway you can see that they're inscribed on the back. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:16 | |
Now that's interesting because it says, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
"Mrs Alan Wright, Little Audrey". | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
Now I know that Annie Anderson | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
was married to another illustrator called Alan Wright, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
so straightaway that's great, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
and it looks to me like it's the bottom of an artist's board. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
So first of all, I think that we may be looking at original works, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
which is exciting, actually. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
And then if you take it off and away, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
you look in a sort of raking light, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
you can actually just see that there's a texture | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
to the thing, that wouldn't work if it was a print. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
There's a sort of shine on a print and this is very matt. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
And you can also just see the sort of slight sheen on the graphite | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
that he's used as well. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
-Have a look for yourself. -Thank you. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
It's quite good. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
-Do you see that? -Yeah. -So you're looking at original watercolours. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
-So you had to take it to bits to find out. -It's the only way really. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
-Yeah. -But I think that's great because, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
you know, I know this artist so well from reproductions. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
We have to assume the rest of these four are originals. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
Can't be certain, you may want to, you know just... | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
-Take those to bits as well. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
I was about to send you away and say, you know, they're worth... | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
-Forget it! -Yeah, well, you know, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
"Decorative value, madam, might be sort of £20 or something like that". | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
But she was such a good illustrator, and I think these are lovely. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
What about this one, this little one here? It's rather sweet. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Probably worth about...original, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
going to be worth about £300 or £400, which is quite nice, isn't it? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
That's just for the little one, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
which is rather good, and then, and then this one... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
do you like that one? | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
-I love it. -It's so sweet, isn't it? | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
I mean that, that's really a sort of children's thing. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
You grew up with that, didn't you? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
-Yeah. -I think that that one's | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
probably worth about £600 or £800, that sort of thing. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
And then this one, which is very pretty actually, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
it's a sort of fairy sweeping clouds away. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
They are quite girlie, aren't they? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
-Yeah. -They're really nice, nicely done. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
Luckily my brother didn't end up with them! | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
-Yes, exactly, they're sort of more pink than blue... -Yeah. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
But that's probably about, oh, I don't know, £800 to £1,200, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
I would have thought, something like that. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
-You're serious? -Yes, of course, I'm serious... | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Deadly. And then down here, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
this really pretty one of the little girl sitting on a bubble, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
well, I think that the audience would go crazy for that. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
I really do. We're probably talking about £2,000, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
that sort of thing, upwards maybe of that. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
It's all right, I'm not doing this in an aggressive way, I promise. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
-It's just nice to know that these things you've loved. -I love them. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
But I'm just so glad they're not prints. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
-It's a real thrill to find that they're not. -Yeah. -Well done! | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Thanks very much, that's excellent, thank you. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
An extraordinary thing about Arundel Castle is that although | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
it is huge and imposing, it has been a family home for nearly 870 years. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:22 | |
So thanks again to the Duke and Duchess of Norfolk for having us. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
And for now, from West Sussex, goodbye. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 |