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It's the duty of every generation | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
to moan about the attitudes of the next lot, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
but there's nothing really new in the world. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Take the lust to spend, and keep on spending. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
That isn't a modern condition - an acute shopaholic | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
was diagnosed right here a couple of centuries ago. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
This is Alnwick Castle, 35 miles north of Newcastle. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
It's known as "The Windsor Of The North". | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
It's been here since the 14th century. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
In the mid-1800s, Algernon, 4th Duke of Northumberland, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
went on a major spending spree, and transformed a grim fortress | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
into an extremely desirable residence. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Out went the Gothic, though it had been enshrined by Canaletto, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
and in came architect Luigi Canina and a team of Italian craftsmen, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
to create the Renaissance-style staterooms. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
All very fine, but Algernon's credit card went into overdrive | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
when he took himself off to Rome. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
He lashed out on 74 stunning paintings by top artists. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
And here, in his Admiral's uniform, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
the prolific 4th Duke stares over the dining room | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
at the latest round of restoration. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
I suspect he'd like | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
the new wallpaper, once red silk, now a lustrous green, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and the fact that centuries of grime and soot | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
have been removed from the ceiling and the friezes. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
Impressed? You will be! | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
We are now entering the drawing room. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
The ebony cabinets flanking the fireplace | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
were made for King Louis XIV's palace at Versailles. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
The fireplace itself is Carrara marble... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
What else? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
The people in Versailles recently asked for their cabinets back, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
but luckily the current Duke of Northumberland | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
was able to produce a receipt from a London dealer dated 1822, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
so they're not going anywhere. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Being an Englishman he was obsessed by the weather, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
and as 4th Duke of Northumberland | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
he could afford to indulge that obsession. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
The library at Alnwick became a coastal weather station, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
complete with barometer... | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
What's it saying for today? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Ah... It's moved from "fair" to "change". | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
In the dozen or so years since the Roadshow last came to Alnwick, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
Jane, the 12th Duchess, has embarked on | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
one of the most ambitious new gardens in England this century. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
And fitting in very nicely, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
a pair of 16th century Venetian wrought iron gates, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
acquired by Algernon on yet another of his shopping trips. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
Well, it's all quite mind-blowing, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
but just in case the fountain jets get blown off course, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
we've herded our experts into the castle's outer bailey. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
They say variety is the spice of life, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
but spice is the variety of life. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Here's a little spice pot, with four layers. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
It starts at the top with ginger, then nutmegs, allspice and cinnamon. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
What do you use it for? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
Exactly that... LAUGHTER | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
For all those herbs and spices. I use them for cooking. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Very good! Is this something that was handed down through the family, or...? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
No, my family was very friendly with a retired farmer and his wife, and when I became engaged | 0:03:55 | 0:04:02 | |
in 1972, Hilda wanted to give me, as an engagement present, something that she had used | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
during HER married life at the farm, and this was the gift. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-Fantastic. -And as I married an army man, this has travelled the world with me, and I use it all the time. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:18 | |
In fact, this morning I just reached into the cupboard and fetched it down | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
and wrapped it and brought it. So it's not even clean! | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Well, I'm very pleased you haven't cleaned it. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
You feel that generations of cooks | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
have handled this, and there's nothing like when you're away, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
making a fruit cake, to make you feel it's home. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
-Exactly, yes! -You do the same? -Exactly, exactly. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
It's a lovely bit of treen, that is, a small object | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
made out of wood, and it's made of box, and it's actually quite a... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
It would have been quite a sizeable lump of box | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
-to create something like this... -Right. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
Box being an expensive and very closely-grained wood, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
slow-growing, used for all sorts | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
of kitchen equipment as well as, obviously, other things. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
And I've seen these over the years and it's been one piece of treen | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
that I've always coveted myself, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and one that has always been outside my price range. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
Today, this little spice tower... We'd be talking about, perhaps, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
£300 to £500. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-Good gracious! -Which isn't bad, considering that it is just a piece | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
of kitchen equipment, and as far as date is concerned, it's dating from | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
the middle part of the 19th century, so it's old, but it's still spicy! | 0:05:29 | 0:05:35 | |
It was my father's water bottle during the World War II. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
-Yes. -He had it all through prisoner-of-war camp. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
-Oh, he was a prisoner of war? -He was. -OK. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
And within it, it actually reveals a small crystal set radio | 0:05:48 | 0:05:54 | |
which he had, and he kept everybody informed when he could. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
Where was he captured? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
He was captured at, er, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Dunkirk, beginning of the war, and machine-gunned when he was trying | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
to run across a road. He was then taken to a military hospital | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
and they looked after him. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Then he had to go on the great march, as they called it, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
where they ended up in Poland, near Krakow at Stalag 11, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:23 | |
I think, then he survived the five years in the prisoner-of-war camp | 0:06:23 | 0:06:28 | |
and conveyed the messages to the rest of the camp | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
about what was actually going on back home. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
By listening to this crystal set? | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
-Yes. -Listening to the BBC? -Yes. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
And hearing how the war was going. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
So did he make this? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
They...made it out of things in the prisoner-of-war camp, yes. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I've got to say, this looks like | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
it's just been cobbled together out of old screws and bits of wood | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
and bits of metal that he must have come across while he was a prisoner. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
-Yes. -That's astonishing, isn't it? | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
I mean, what I find amazing is the ingenuity of people. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
-Now you've brought some pictures along. -Yes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
Um, this is presumably him, is it? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It is him, when he first joined up. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
And what's the group photograph? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Oh, it's a group photograph of the Stalag camp that he was in. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
And which one is he there? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
He's got the curly hair on him, there. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
The one at the end, at the far end? | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
Well, I think what I find astonishing is that, of course, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
being in possession of a radio while a prisoner of war was an incredibly | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
serious... probably one of THE most serious offences | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
you could actually have, so he would have been shot, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
and to have concealed it in such an astonishing way | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
is really quite ingenious. Well, you know, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
these things have a value because there are people | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
that collect clandestine equipment such as this, and although it's, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
if you like, cobbled together out of bits and pieces...screws | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
and bits of wood and metal, you know, it's an amazing thing. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
And I suppose if this came on the market today, you'd probably find | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
someone would pay a couple of hundred pounds for it. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Amazing for something that's, sort of, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
-made of bits and pieces! -Yeah, really. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
-Belongs in a museum, doesn't it? -I would say so, yes. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
Now as you probably know, inside the castle there are | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
these two magnificent cabinets which belonged to King Louis XIV | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
at Versailles. He was known as the Sun King, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
and here you've brought in this lovely mug with the sun on it. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
Do you think this has anything to do with King Louis XIV? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
I don't think so. I think it's more to do with the Sun newspaper. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-The Sun newspaper? -Yes. -Oh, what's the story? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Before I was born my mum saw an article, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
and every baby that was born on 15th September 1964, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:48 | |
the day The Sun newspaper came out, was given one of those, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
so I don't really know if there's many about, or... | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-So your mum got this the day you were born? -Yes. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
"Happy Birthday to you from The Sun, Britain's new | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
national newspaper which - like you - | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
-first saw light of day on Tuesday, 15th September, 1964". -That's right. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
And that's genuine EPNS! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Oh, that'll please her! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Well, it's a lovely case, and it's a case which | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
has promise of something inside, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
and actually what I like about these disc musical boxes is that | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
they sort of tell you everything. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
-It's wonderful, isn't it? -There, that's what it is, a symphonion. -Yes. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Now, tell me the story about this disc box. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Well, this comes down from my great-grandmother's adoptive parents. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
-I can see a photograph flapping on the side, there. -Oh, yes! | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Is that relevant? Please show it to me. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
These are... These are the people who, um... | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
-This chap, John Campbell, was a painter and decorator. -Yes. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
Bought it for his wife on honeymoon when they were in Paris in 1875. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
-Did he, by Jove? -Yes. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Well, he was a very clever man, and I'll tell you why. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
-Go on. -Because this machine, invented | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
by Paul Lochmann, wasn't actually produced until after 1886. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
-That's clever! -So he was a man ahead of his time, obviously! | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Yes, so that's one family story | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-shot down. -Family lore. Folklore! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
-I love family stories. -Yes! -Yeah. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
-Sorry about that. However, moving swiftly on... -Yes. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
-..let's enjoy the object as it is. -Yes. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
This is a sort of middle-of-the road size. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
So here's the disc, and underneath it we can see | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
the two combs, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
-and the disc itself has got little holes punched in it. -Yes. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:40 | |
And on the other side, those holes result in little raised notches, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
and as the disc turns round, so those notches | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
-pluck... -Plucks the comb. -Yes. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
..pluck the...the comb one at a time, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
you know, for the... which creates the tune. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
These are called the star wheels, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
and it's absolutely standard, centre drive, fourteen-and-three-quarter, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
or let's round it up to fifteen-inch, disc musical box. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
The real success of this, ah, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
concept was, of course, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
you could have an enormous number of tunes, and this looks like... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Is it a list of...tunes available? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
It's a list of tunes available at the time. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-Oh-oh, it's very... -It is very fragile, yes. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Isn't it just? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
But I know that by the latter part | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
of the 1890s, there were about 2,000 tunes available, so it was | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
an enormous step-up over cylinder musical boxes, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
and the sad thing, I suppose, is, Paul Lochmann invented this | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
just too late, because in 1877 the phonograph | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-was invented. -Right. -And who wanted | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-plunkety-plunk music if you could actually then hear the human voice on a record? -Yes. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:57 | |
I've been living with this for over 50 years and this is | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
the only disc I've ever actually heard, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-although we have another... -25. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
-25. -25? -Yes, yes. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
-Well, I hope you'll go home and put it through its paces. -Absolutely. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
I'm sure it's sick of hearing the same tune! | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
-Probably. -For 50 years. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
Um, value-wise, it is popular, they're always popular, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
it's in great condition, and we'd be talking about | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
£1,500-£1,800, that sort of figure. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-Fine, yes. -And I suppose the ultimate... | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
it's all very well looking at the pretty pretty, but the ultimate | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
is...how does it sound? Can I give it a go? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
Of course, yes. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
TUNE PLAYS | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Do you know, every time we come to Alnwick Castle, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
we always find the most glorious things, but the archivist, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
obviously, Chris, you've brought in the most fabulous things | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-for me to have a look at. -That's right. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Initially I get these because we've got this wonderful manuscript here, | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
lovely, lovely green vellum here, and here's the title. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
"Antiquities, historical, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
curious, miscellaneous, manuscripts, Japan porcelain and glass". | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
Yes. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
-So tell me about this book. -This is from the Duke of Northumberland's | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
manuscript collection. It's in fact in the hand of the First Duchess, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Elizabeth, and it's a record, her own record of, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
of the curious items that she collected. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Um, the First Duchess was responsible for the family's move | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-back to Alnwick in the 18th century. -She was very keen on it. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
She was keen on her historical roots and obviously on her history | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and this is why she collected some quite interesting items. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
The thing that actually stands out here, which I find extraordinary, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
-is Queen Elizabeth's gloves. -Yes. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
This is recorded here as being purchased at the Mussel Sale. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
Oh, Mussel Sale, he was the, um, the eccentric magistrate. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
-That's right, from Hackney. -From Hackney, yes. -Ebenezer Mussel. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
Ebenezer, yes, of course. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
He collected curious historical items | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
including a whole Roman wharf from Richborough | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
-which he re-erected in his back garden. -Well, as you would. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Much better than going down to the tile shop or whatever it is. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
But look, this is... can I touch these? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-Yes, yes. -You've made me wear gloves, but I mean...thank you. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
These wonderful, wonderful kid gloves belonged to Queen Elizabeth | 0:14:27 | 0:14:33 | |
and they're absolutely beautiful. Didn't she have long fingers? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
-Well, yes, it appears so. -I mean, if she actually filled them all up. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Yes. They're tapering. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
But the thing about kid gloves which I find... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
not disturbing... but rather, rather, rather nice, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
is the fact that you wear kid gloves | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
and they imprint the fingers that they were, they were actually on. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
-Yes. -So we have a sort of an outer shell here of | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Queen Elizabeth and at the top here we have this lovely gilt thread, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
but they're absolutely wonderful, absolutely superb. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
Let's pop this one over here. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
The other thing is this, this cap here. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Now tell me the story about this cap. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Well, this again is purchased from the Mussel sale in 1765, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
and it's recorded as Oliver Cromwell's nightcap. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:31 | |
And we've got a little rabbit here and birds here, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
pomegranate there, another bird, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
it's absolutely exquisite, isn't it? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-It seems a bit fine for a puritan if you ask me. -You're telling me. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I don't think that's got anything to do with Oliver Cromwell, do you? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
It predates Cromwell, I mean, it's late Elizabethan. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Obviously, it's Elizabethan, but that's extraordinary. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-Yes. -But I'm going to play devil's advocate here. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Here are you as a scholar | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
and here's me, the common or garden dealer. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
I would be very cynical, that a sale in the middle of the 18th century | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
would have a decent provenance on any of these things. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
There's no doubt of their period, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-but they could be anybody's, couldn't they? -Well... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-Go on, stick up for yourself! -We're certain of the provenance | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
from 1770, when this manuscript dates from. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
-That's what she was told. -That's what she was told, and we know that | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
she paid two pounds and 12 shillings for the lot at that time. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
-Well, it seems a bargain even then. -Yes. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Um, yes, a little collection like this, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
if it was no provenance, nothing, we'd be talking about £20,000... | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
£30,000 something like that. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
But if you can prove it... | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Yes. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Well, probably 100 times that, I don't know, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
but an awful lot of money. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
-Certainly. -I'm so delighted that you haven't disappointed me. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
Thank you, thank you. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Well, in its lifetime it's never travelled more than about a mile | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
from where it was manufactured. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
It was made for a house and it's been in several houses within that area. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
-So which house? -Belsey in Northumberland. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Made for Belsey Castle and then to Belsey Hall, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
and then I bought it at auction when Sir Stephen Middleton died. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
So the old Belsey House, that was the old castle. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Medieval or whatever, yes. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Yes, and this was made at the cabinet maker's shop behind the castle | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
for the new manor house in early 1700s, apparently. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
-Have you any documentation for that? -I have some documentation | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
of where it's been, various pictures of its lifetime | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
-in various houses and positions. -But we know nothing about the maker? -No. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
And it would be unique to find out exactly who the maker was, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
but it's extraordinary to know where it was made. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
-Do you have an association with the estate? -I worked there. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
My mother's family have been there for many generations. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
I'd love to find something that would match up with something else | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
that I've seen in the area, to say, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
"that's that particular cabinet maker | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
"who did this particular type | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
-"of banding or this type of drawer and inlay and everything". -Yes. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
Let's just have a look inside. It's just such a nice, warm piece | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-of furniture. Look at that interior. Of course, walnut as you know. -Yes. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
With lovely banding, I'm just going to point these out here, this lovely | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
-feather banding, that's very nice. -Is that walnut as well? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Yes, it is. Sometimes these are in different wood, but this is walnut. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
And it's beautifully done, like a sort of herring bone. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Nice with drawers. So often, you see these drawers have been taken out. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
What's been put in? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Drinks cabinet, even a TV, things like that, I'm afraid. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
But this is as, as it was born, which is very, very nice. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Having said that, it's had a little bit of damage. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Who did this, what's happened? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
I don't know. That's its, part of its history, I don't know. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Amazingly, somebody's... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
I don't know what they've done. Then they've over-painted it with black | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
-to make it look like the black walnut. -Really? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-It's quite bizarre. -Yes. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
That could, and should, be restored at some stage. It's not going to be | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
easy to get someone skilled enough to do it without re-polishing | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
the whole thing. My gut reaction is that we've got | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
original handles, which is pretty rare these days. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
-Yes. -Let's have a look. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
Yes, we have, look at that. So you've got absolutely lovely | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-pine interior, oak sides, which is what you'd expect. -Yes, yes. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
Because you don't see the inside of | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
a drawer, that's pine, but there's no change of the handles. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
No extra holes, are there? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
None at all, and the original steel lock. Again, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
country piece, estate carpenter. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Probably didn't want to spend money on a brass lock. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
It probably cost about three pounds ten shillings, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
and it would have been three pounds 15 shillings, or whatever. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
If they'd put brass locks on. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
It's such a nice piece of furniture, but I love the idea of | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
the history, so it's been basically in two families, more or less. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Yes. One family for...till 1994. Then we bought it in 1994 at auction, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
-when Sir Stephen Middleton died. -So why did you buy it? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
I didn't think it was good for it to go away from Belsey | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
after all them years, and I saved me money up and bought it, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-which was quite a lot at the time. -That's fantastic, so you | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-bought it in 1994. -Yes. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
So I'm going to have to come up with a value now. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
-I can tell you what it was then. -I don't think I want to know! | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
I mean, prices have been a bit difficult. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
The problem with this is, it's not incredibly useful, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
but I think what is important, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
and I'm not worried about the condition, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I think the fact that it's the provenance... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
you've got a piece from a big house | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
not far from here, and you know it's come from that house and | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
it's never been anywhere else, that is worth quite a lot of money. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
So I think to replace this in an antique shop, insurance, whatever | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-you want to call it, £10,000. -Right. I see. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Is that more than it cost? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
Yes. Three times. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Oh, great! We're safe. We can go home now. Thank you. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
-Thanks very much. -Thank you. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
-Do you love it? -I absolutely love it, we really do. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
I think it's a...it's a fascinating dish. I've been doing the Roadshow | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
now about ten years, and this is certainly the most | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
interesting piece of Delft pottery I've seen since I've been coming. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
-Right. -And you've had it for how long? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Um, well, I'm the seventh generation. I will be the seventh generation | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
to have it because it belongs to my mother at the moment, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
but it's been in our family for six generations, beyond. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
So that gets you back to what, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
the mid-19th century or thereabouts, and it's going to be yours? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
-Going to be mine. -You lucky girl! It's fabulous. You know what it is? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
-I don't know what it is, no. -It's English Delftware, which is... | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
technically means it's a tin-glazed pottery. They put tin oxide into the | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
glaze to make it white, because it's a sort of buff colour underneath. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-Yes. -And it gives it this creamy look. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
And it was in the 17th century to imitate Chinese porcelain. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
Whereabouts would it have been made in England? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Well, English Delft, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Delftware in England was produced in London, Liverpool, Bristol and | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
a number of other places as well. These blue dash chargers, most of | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
them are from either London or from Bristol. Probably a Bristol dish. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-So you can trace it back for 150 years or so? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
This is another 150 on from that, it's contemporary with Charles II. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
-Gosh. -William III. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Perhaps the end of Pepys' life. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
I mean, it's a fabulously ancient dish. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Um...but you dropped it. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
No, my great-great-aunt dropped it. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
-So when would that have been, then? -Mm, well... | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
Great-great-aunt, 1900? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Yes, about that, I would think, yes. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-What a rotter. -Unfortunately, yes. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Um, it's known as a blue dash charger because of these | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
dashes on them, and there are various different patterns you see. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Tulip designs are very popular at this period, the late 17th century. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
Charles II hiding in a tree, royal chargers, these all appear. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
The cockerels are a really, really unusual pattern | 0:22:44 | 0:22:50 | |
to see on one of these. There are very few around. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
I don't know, I always think of it as a sort of French symbol, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-I suppose. -Well, we thought perhaps it might have been French, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
partly because of the cockerel and perhaps Northern Brittany... | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
Um, might be to do with a pub. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
Might be to do with a pub, you never know. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
-But it is a very uncommon pattern. -Even better. -What do you do with it? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Well, it sits at home, and historically through the family | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
every time a son has been born, for some reason or other, nobody knows, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
there's always been a cheese put on it, in the Christening. I don't know | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
why, but that's what it's been used for. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
-Have you got a son? -No. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
-Going to have a son? -No! | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
-Maybe my sister or my brother, you never know. -But it will be yours? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
-It will be mine. -That's great. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
And it'll stay in the family, you know, from me it will go | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
-to another member of the family. -Great, it's a really nice dish. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
-It is a great pity it's been so badly damaged. -Yes, squashed. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
-In the past, you can see it's been riveted. -Yes. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
These are the holes, and the rivets have been taken out. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
But it's a lovely thing, it's a terrific thing to see. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
At auction at the moment, probably between £20,000 and £30,000. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
CROWD GASP | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
Good God! | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
-You've got to look that way. -I know, I'm too shocked to look that way! | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Over 30 years, more than three million items have been brought | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
in to the show and not surprisingly, just every now and then a friendship | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
blossoms between the owner and the expert. David Battie's been | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
with the show for ever, and I have | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
noticed a twinkle across the table every now and then. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
It is extraordinary how in a brief period, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
when you've got somebody's object, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
you can build up a relationship. For obvious reasons, we can't | 0:24:46 | 0:24:52 | |
have the owners' names and addresses and telephone numbers. That would be | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
quite wrong, but occasionally something happens | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
and we get to know the person, and that happened at Liverpool in 1988. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
Mrs Ambrose, Nora Ambrose brought in her huge teapot, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
and Nora has been a sort of groupie | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
round the north of England ever since. Wherever we go, there's | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Norah, and we have to have a kiss and a cuddle. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
When me mother-in-law gave it to me, she said to me "Look after it now, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
"because it's over 100 years old." She said, "It was very old | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
"when I was a little girl, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
"because my granny used to have it even before us." | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
I thought, "Well, it seems a bit far back, really, when she was 86." | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
Well, we get told this, I think, as a story more than anything else. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
People say, "It belonged to my grandmother, and her grandmother". | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
And they add it up and arrive at two or three hundred years, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-and we almost always have to discount the story. -Yes. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
They've got muddled in the family. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
In this particular case, it's more than true. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
-This is actually a very ancient pot indeed. -Oh! | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
But it is, is something which is of some value. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
-Have you any idea what it's worth? -No, I haven't any idea cos | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
-me mother-in-law gave it to me. -Do you think it might be worth | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
-several hundred pounds? -I don't know, I don't think so. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
-You wouldn't have thought so? -No. -So if I told you it was worth | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-£600 or £800, you'd be really shocked, would you? -Oh, I would! | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Right, so if I told you it was worth £1,500, you'd be really shocked? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
-Oh, you're kidding, aren't you? Well, I am kidding, actually. -Oh. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
It's actually worth about £5,000 to £6,000. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
Oh! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
CROWD GASP AND LAUGH | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
-What happened next for Nora? You didn't propose, did you? -Well, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Nora finished the record by saying "Of course I'd never sell it", | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
and the next thing that happened was that she was, five weeks later, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
on the telephone to an auction house where I worked, as it happened. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
"I want to sell my teapot". | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
And my colleague said "It's cracked. It's chipped. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:02 | |
"It's not worth the £5,000 you quoted on it." | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
And it sold for £14,500. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
And Nora got her cheque from the auction house, and she went out | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
and bought her council house with the money, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
so she's now living in her teapot. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-You mean it? -I mean it, absolutely. It's exactly what the market is | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
desperate for. I don't think I've ever seen such a large, good one. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
Oh, gosh, isn't that marvellous! | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
What a nice little spinning wheel. And it's obviously | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
seen quite a lot of use, because there's an old repair here. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
And, you know, there are areas where you can tell that this has | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-been well loved and well used. -Yes. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
-In your family? -It's been in the family a long time. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
It was left to my father by his aunt | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
in the early '70s, and I couldn't say before that | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
how long it's been in the family, but I imagine it's been | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
-in for quite a long time. -Do you remember anybody using it? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
No, I've never seen it used at all. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
There are some spinning wheels that are used purely as decoration, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
so they would have stood in the main room in a grand house to remind | 0:28:12 | 0:28:17 | |
the young ladies of the house what sort of tasks they might be | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
-able to do, so if you didn't sew, you should learn how to spin. -Yes. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
But my feeling with this is, this was a working spinning wheel, and I | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
-think it was a spinning wheel used for spinning flax. -Oh, yes, yes. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Obviously one thing that's missing is the sort of drive band that would | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
have gone round here and then connected up to this wheel here, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
which would have been made of something simple like leather. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
-Right. -Obviously breaks and gets lost. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
-What kind of wood is it? -Well, because these... | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
I mean this is a really nice example of a country, country piece, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
so you've got the sort of woods you would have found locally. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
You've got elm, you'll have a little bit of ash, anything that's... | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
-you know, fruit woods, that sort of thing. -Yes. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
People love these wheels, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
because they are also very collectable as treen. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
-Yes. -You know, objects made of wood. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
This lovely spindle turning. But there are signs of wear, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
which is great to see, because this | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
is obviously not a reproduction. Look at the woodworm hole | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
-round the back. -That's right, yes. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
-You can't fake that sort of thing. -No. -And when you look | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
at something like this, you have to think about those things. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Is it a reproduction that was made yesterday, or is it an old one? | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
And this is a 19th century one, but it's a collector's piece. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
-Yes. -I would put a value of somewhere between £600 and £800 on it. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
As much as that, yes? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
"Improved magneto newly invented electric machine | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
"for nervous diseases". We've seen tonnes of these. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
-You've got plenty. -What, nervous diseases? | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
-Yes. -We've seen plenty of these, but we've never done the experiment. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-Right. -To see how many people the charge will go through. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
-There's plenty here. -All right, let's try. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Please don't turn the handle too fast. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-Too fast. -Start turning. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:05 | |
-Start turning. -Faster. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
-Not too fast. -I can't feel anything. Yes? -I've got it. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Yes? Can you all feel it? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
-Yes. -All tingling? -OK. -Well, your hair's certainly standing on end. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
ALL LAUGH | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
I always get really excited | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
when I see just a plain little box that has definitely got some age. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
Tell me about this. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Well, it was left to my husband by an aunt | 0:30:28 | 0:30:33 | |
who said it belonged to her great grandfather, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
and it was put in the loft. And last night I took it out | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
and I thought, "It's just plastic", | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
but I thought, "Oh, I'll take it anyway". | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
Well, I think what's lovely about this is when I do that, and you see | 0:30:47 | 0:30:53 | |
this fabulous little service. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
You thought these were plastic. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:58 | |
-I did. -But actually | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
these are very early glass. This is a wonderful little children's | 0:30:59 | 0:31:05 | |
service in its lovely original box. It was probably made about 1820 | 0:31:05 | 0:31:11 | |
or 1830. Look at these lovely little cups with their little handles | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
and the plates, little compote here and even little spoons. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
-Yes. -So rare to find this. Just look | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
at this lovely jug, and look at these hand-painted roses on it. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
-Yes. -So beautiful. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
-Yes, it is. -So it's glass, and look | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
at the condition it's in after all this time, when you think it would | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
-have been played with by children. -Yes, yes, indeed. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
And would you have any idea what | 0:31:38 | 0:31:39 | |
-that would be worth? -Not at all, no. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Because it's very rare. It's rare to find it, it's rare to find it in | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
this condition. And because toys and dolls and anything to do with them | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
are going up so much in value, I could easily see that sell for £500. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
-Really? -Absolutely. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
It was a wedding present. I've had it for 22 years now. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
It was from my mum and dad. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Well, I mean, does it worry you to know that they gave | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
you something that was second-hand? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
-No, I did get one or two other things as well. -You did? | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
-Yes. -Well, I'm glad to know. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
Well, as with any work of art, what you're looking for is a signature. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
And although it's not very easy to determine, it's all in a name. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:29 | |
And you can see here "Galle", and that of course is Emile Galle. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:35 | |
Does the name mean anything to you at all? | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
I've heard of Galle, but I thought they were producers of glass. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
I didn't know they did furniture. That's why I brought it, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
to find out a more...if you knew anything more about it. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
OK, well let me just say that Galle in actual fact | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
was a bit of an all rounder, and he did actually produce some | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
very interesting furniture. And he's working down there in | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
the Alsace region, down in that part of France which is | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
quite close to the German border. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
Let's have a look at the actual inlay, because this is | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
all marquetry inlay. There is nothing here that's worked | 0:33:09 | 0:33:15 | |
with a pen or anything. He is using | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
the actual natural grain of all these different woods, um, to get | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
this effect of almost like sunlight cascading onto, onto a seascape. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:30 | |
The good news, of course, is that you've got a nest of three. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
-Yeah. -So let's have a look at the...intermediate one, OK? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
So we've got now, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
um, obviously we've got almost like a fishing village here. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
Again, he's using fruit woods | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
and burr woods to get this wonderful naturalistic effect, and again he's | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
signing down here. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
Date wise, um, I think you're looking at around about 1902-1903. | 0:33:54 | 0:34:00 | |
One thing I can tell you is that | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
1904 was a really bad year for Emile Galle. That was the year he died. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
-Oh, right. -OK, and let's have a look at number three. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Oh, that's rather nice, isn't it? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
Almost like red sails in the sunset, isn't it? | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
-I like that one best. -Again, a clever use of wood grain | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
with this almost macassar-type ebony showing through there. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Are they the sort of thing you regularly use? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
No, I never use them. They just stand in the corner with a cloth over them | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
so they don't get dusty. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Well, it's a bit of a shame really that they're stacked away. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
If I wanted to go out and buy this set today, if I was going to give | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
them as a wedding present, which is highly unlikely | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
because I'd want to buy them for meself, then I dare say I'd have | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
-to part with around about £2,000. -Really? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
Which, um, which ain't bad really, is it, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
for three old second-hand tables? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
Oh, that's smashing. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
We've got six wonderful diaries here. They are completely wacky, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
off the wall and during a time of war. And they make, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
not exactly fun of the war, but they're very stoical, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
they're very funny, and at the same time they seem to be making | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
the best out of the situation. Now, who are they by? | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
It's Thomas Cairns Livingstone, a gentleman who lived in Rutherglen | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
in Glasgow at the turn of the 19th century, 20th century. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
I feel that they're very much | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
like Mr Pooter. I mean, this is what he is, Mr Pooter | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
of George and Weedon Grossmiths' book, The Diaries of a Nobody | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
where, you know, everything worries | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
him and nothing really matters at all that worries him. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
And here they all are, and they're just absolutely hilarious. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
But these have illustrations, which I think make it even better. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
I mean, on Wednesday December 2nd 1914, he says | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
"Tommy got a bad cough, made him a wee bridge", | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I assume for his railway, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
"and at night brought him a new slate". | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
I assume that was for going to school the next day. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
And this lovely illustration of this lady with her skirts blowing up. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
This is 1914, don't forget, they're all proper. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
"Very stormy, wild, wet day". | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
And then he repeats himself the following day. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Thursday 8th - "Wild, stormy, wet day. Tommy's still got a bad cough", | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
and so on and so forth. He's really sending himself up, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
but he goes on with things like "Belgrade taken by the Austrians, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
"De Wett, the Boer rebel, captured. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
"King George in the British trenches". | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
You know, he sort of goes from the sublime to the ridiculous, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
really, or from the ridiculous to the sublime, really. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
1914. Let's go to...1915. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:45 | |
"The heat waves continue. Zeppelin blown up near Brussels". | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
And there they all are, and they're all falling out. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
It's just absolutely wonderful, tremendous. And this one, I think, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
-this is hardly Sunday night entertainment. -A bit risque. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
"Wild snow storm all day". | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
This is 1916, Saturday 25th. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
"Worst we've had all year. After tea we all went to town to the salon, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
a picture house and saw "She". Came home duly edified". | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
And there he does a picture of a naked lady with, um, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
the naughty bits censored. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
and absolutely lovely. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Next one, "I've got a bit of a cough". | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
ALL LAUGH | 0:37:30 | 0:37:31 | |
You just love it. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Look, you've obviously got good quotes from these that you want | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
and I won't have shown the ones that you want. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
-What can you remember? -I think there's one where it's late at night | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
and he hears a gunshot in the back alley of the street, and he knows | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
the next day that a man shot his wife and he says "Oh, a man shot his wife, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
"silly fool", and it just summarises the whole manner | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
in which he writes the diaries in. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
I love that. Well, I would have bought these any day, | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
so where did you see them? Where did you...? | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
There was a local auction just a few miles away from here | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
a couple of years ago. It was just in a shoe box. Picked the first one up, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
read the first one and had to buy the lot. They're so good | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
and you don't see many, many diaries like this. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
So what did you know how to pay for them? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
I didn't, really. I just really wanted them. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
You rash so and so! | 0:38:19 | 0:38:20 | |
-I know. -Go on, tell me. -I think it was a couple of hundred pounds, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-with commission. -Right, that's including commission? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Yeah, so I think it's money well spent. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Well, I think it was money well spent. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
I mean, I would say the war ones are probably the funniest, because | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
1918, 1919 is not quite as funny | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
as the rest, and so I suspect that the others aren't as good. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
I'd put more value on these. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
I'd put sort of £200 or £300 on these each, and...and | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
-a bit more on the rest, so we're coming up to about £2,000. -Wow! | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
And I wouldn't be surprised if they're not worth printing. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
I'd love to see them in a wider audience. I think the amount of work | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
and effort he's put into them, I think he deserves to be seen. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Well, I assure you if you get them on the Roadshow | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
there will be a wider audience! | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
Well, obviously we've got a marine chronometer here. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
And it's signed by the chronometer work GMBH Hamburg, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
which was a German manufacturer, Second World War period. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
To all intents and purposes, it appears to be a decent instrument. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Let's have a look at it. It's suspended in gimbals. Now, that's, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
there we are, that's confirmation of what I'm saying. It's actually got | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
the Kriegsmarine logo on the back with the swastika, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
which proves that it's Second World War origin, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
and the marine number 339. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
The interesting thing about the Kriegsmarine mark on the back | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
is that it's probably going to turn out to be one of the earlier | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
instruments, because the later ones, towards the end of the war, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
first of all they were vastly inferior quality, and they had | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
the logo and swastika on the front, actually stamped on the dial. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
The movement should hopefully come out and reveal that, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
yes, no question. Look at the quality of that. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
The late ones, I can hardly describe. They're very poor | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
quality, very poor finish. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
This is beautiful. It's all spotted all over the plates, this little | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
machining mark. It's gilded. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
The screws, as you can see, are highly polished. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
Now tell me, by any chance, do you know any of the history? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Usually they're just spoils of war, but nobody | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
knows where they came from. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
Yes, sure. We know quite a lot about its late history which is that it was | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
the chronometer of a U-boat, a U1-10 which was captured by my grandfather, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
so that's how it came into our possession. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Not many U-boats were captured, most of them were sunk. I can't say | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
I know them all, but I know three or four boats that were actually | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
stranded and brought up and then captured. Any history on this one? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Absolutely. It was in a convoy action, so it was pursuing a convoy | 0:40:53 | 0:40:59 | |
bound for Liverpool, and it was caught by three Royal Navy vessels | 0:40:59 | 0:41:06 | |
under the command of my grandfather, and depth charged to the surface. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:11 | |
And the crew abandoned ship and they thought that they'd set the scuttling | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
charges on it, but they hadn't. And my grandfather noticed that the ship | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
wasn't going down and sent a boarding party on board who, um, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:27 | |
retrieved as much stuff as they could from the U-boat | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
including an Enigma machine and all the documents that went with that, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:36 | |
-this, and other things. -Well, that's a very famous action. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:41 | |
-So they got on board, they got an Enigma machine. -Yes. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
But not the first one, because I think some had come from Poland | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
and there were a few, but it's the one where they got the code books. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
That's correct, so they picked up all the naval code books from it. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
And, er, fortunately the Germans were unaware that we'd captured this, | 0:41:56 | 0:42:02 | |
this U-boat and its contents, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
so that was kept a very closely guarded secret, | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
and it meant that we could, er, decode. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
-Decode them. -That's right. -The beginning of the decoding. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
And if I can remember the end of the story, they tried to take it | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
in tow, and it sank. It really is a sort of real history. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
That's right, so it was actually fortunate that it sank in many ways, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
-because it enabled them to keep the capture secret. -Right. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
But it must have been disappointing at the time, as they were trying | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
to pull their trophy in to shore. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
Fantastic history. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Oh, well, that makes my life more difficult. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
One of these is worth, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
without the history, £1,500. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
And now I have to say, how much is the history worth? | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
And I really don't honestly have a clue. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
It is such a significant piece of... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
of naval history in the Second World War. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
I mean, really, it's the point at which I suppose we began to... | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
if not win the war, to turn the tide, because once we'd | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
broken those codes, began to break them, there's all the stories about | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Bletchley and everything else... this is where the tide began | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
to swing, and I...so...mmm, I really can't... | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
-I'll say £5,000 or £10,000. How's that? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
-What a fantastic story. Amazing. -Thank you. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
In 700 years, Alnwick Castle has seen some great heroes | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
from Henry Percy to Harry Potter, and now the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
I must say, for a place that's supposed to be forbidding | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
and impregnable, it's been very inviting. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
But we mustn't outstay our welcome, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
so just a quick game of quidditch and we'll be on our way. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
Until the next time, from Northumberland, goodbye. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 |