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When you put your mind to it,

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you can come up with a whole list of things

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that have made Bristol the special city that it is,

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apart from being the home of the Antiques Roadshow.

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You could reflect on Brunel's mighty suspension bridge,

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or Cabot's extraordinary voyages to Newfoundland,

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and while you're reflecting, you could have a sip of sherry,

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another of Bristol's claims to fame, or how about a cigarette?

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The tobacco trade made one particular family in Bristol fabulously rich.

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Over two centuries, the Wills dynasty ran huge factories

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that churned out millions of cigarettes from tobacco leaves imported from the Americas.

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By 1883, they'd invented the first cigarette-making machine,

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producing 200 of them a minute.

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Fags rolled out, the cash rolled in.

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In 1915, Harry Wills admitted,

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"The way the business is making money now, is, to me, positively frightening",

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but he knew what to do about it.

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The family felt strongly about philanthropy and social justice,

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and generations of the Wills clan gave back great amounts to the city

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that had helped them make their fortune.

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They treated their workers well,

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with paid holidays, staff canteens,

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and plenty of sports facilities.

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They even provided free medical care,

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although it wasn't until the middle of the 20th century

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that the true dangers of smoking started to be recognised.

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The Wills family also put their money into bricks and mortar,

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not to build palaces for themselves,

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but to endow Bristol with a string of handsome and important buildings,

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like the Victoria Rooms here,

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and the city museum and art gallery just down the road.

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They built churches and homes for the poor and sick,

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even a homeopathic hospital.

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In today's money, the property portfolio would be worth more than 150 million pounds.

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One city institution benefited more than any other,

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in fact, it pretty well owes its existence to the tobacco industry.

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The University Of Bristol's tower dominates the city's skyline.

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It's aptly named The Wills Memorial Building,

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itself another generous gift from the family.

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It's nearly 20 years since the last cigarette was made in Bristol,

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and the factories and the warehouses have long since fallen silent,

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but they still stand,

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and the Wills Memorial Building

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plays host to the graduation ceremonies of today's students.

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But on this particular day, the queues lining the staircase

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are heading for the Antiques Roadshow.

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This is one of my favourite objects, tell me what it is.

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Well, it's a Kinora,

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and it's, like, one of the first things of moving pictures.

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Get it going for me, cos I just love it.

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What can you see?

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You can see some people talking to each other.

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What we ought to have is a lip reader. I wonder what they're saying.

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Do you think they're saying,

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"I wonder if we'll be looked at in 100 years time"?

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OK, great, let me have a look at it if I may.

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Yes, so we've got a lovely old lady,

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who looks a little bit like Queen Victoria,

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and she's chatting to a gentleman. Now, who am I looking at?

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This is Charlotte's great-great great-grandmother and grandfather.

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Yes, and I think, at that time,

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-they were playing around with all sorts of modern technology.

-Yes.

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And, er, the thing that to me is staggering

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is the fact that we can still see this after 100 years.

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It is amazing, isn't it?

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Our generation get a lot of pleasure from it.

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How does it compare to, I don't know, PlayStation, or...?

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Is it an interesting thing to look at?

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I think it's interesting, cos it's my family.

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Yeah, absolutely, because, of course,

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they were long gone before you were ever around on the scene,

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-so this is great to see them actually in motion.

-Yes.

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Um, just a little bit of history, I mean, the Kinora viewer,

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the actual system, was invented by the Lumiere brothers back in the 1870s,

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and it came through in England,

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re-invigorated by the British Kinora Company,

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in about 1908, so what sort of date do you think, looking at the...?

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I would have thought it's pretty much 1908-1910.

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Er, something like that, and here we are, 100 years later,

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still able to look at the footage,

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and I just wonder how many of the digital photographs

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and video footage that we've got on our computers today

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will still be around for people to look at in 100 years' time.

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Do you know, that's a very good point,

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because with the Kinora viewer,

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you could buy ready-made reels that you could rent,

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a bit like going to the video library,

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or in the case of this, these are home movies.

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There were Kinora cameras that actually took images on paper negatives,

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which were then made into these.

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To me, it's a wonderful sort of peep into the beginnings of technology,

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the beginnings of the moving image,

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and in the right sort of auction,

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I would see this getting between perhaps £700 and £900,

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so it's valuable, not supremely valuable,

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not nearly as valuable as it is to you,

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as a piece of your own family history.

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Two very splendid mugs for cider or beer.

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They're looking very clean, where have they come from?

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The garden shed.

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-These were in a shed?

-Yes, I found them in the garden shed.

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Right, then what were they doing there?

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We've been clearing out stuff from my father and they were in a box,

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they've been there for about 18 months.

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-Just been packed away.

-Yes.

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Right, well, let's see, what have you found?

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Two rather different mugs, one in the blue and one in the black printing,

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but examples of transfer printing. An exotic mug for everyday use.

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-I suppose we're looking here in date, what, 1820-1830?

-Good gracious. Yes.

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-Lovely and clean, isn't it?

-Yes.

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This is when printing is becoming commercial in mass production in England,

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a lot of printing was being done in Staffordshire.

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-Yes.

-But it was discovered somewhere else,

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it was invented at Worcester,

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and here we have, really, a rather splendid printed mug.

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-You've got a portrait on one side, of the king.

-Oh.

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-And that's King George II.

-Oh!

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So that takes it back to... Well, we're back in the 1750s.

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Good gracious, yes.

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So really quite an interesting mug,

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turning it round, there's a big man o'war, a great sailing ship,

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because, of course, King George was very much an active king,

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he was involved in the Navy, he sailed on ships.

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-Yes.

-And was so much associated with the king

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that they put his likeness on one side, the ships,

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-and here is all the trophies to do with the wars and battles that he was winning, and the victories.

-Mmm.

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Actually, looking at it there, it's got a signature,

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and it's got on one side, RH, and that's Robert Hancock,

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who was the great engraver.

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-Oh.

-He invented the technique of engraving copper plates

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-to be printed onto the surface of porcelain.

-Oh.

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Because what we have here is, really,

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the first royal commemorative mug that was printed.

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-Good gracious.

-Really is quite a special piece, and that was...

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Cos before then, people didn't know what the king really looked like,

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apart from on their coinage,

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so only now, when you can get Worcester mugs,

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can people get a really good likeness of the king,

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and this was made in 1757 or 1758.

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-Good gracious.

-And this one is just a nice Staffordshire mug of its kind.

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-An example like that, in good condition, £200.

-Good gracious!

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Here, a mug with the royal prints, so what is this worth?

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Um, oh, £3,000.

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I can't believe it! Really?

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It's fabulous!

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It had the onion set in it last week!

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-Onions?

-The onion sets.

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Fantastic.

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I find Bristol a really exciting place, cos,

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unusually in Britain, in England,

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you can actually see the history of the place in its buildings.

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All the great industries have left their mark,

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and of course, one of the greatest of those industries was tobacco,

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and it is a modern nonsense that we try to pretend this didn't happen,

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we are standing in a building funded by tobacco,

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next door is the art gallery, funded by tobacco.

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Let's celebrate that fact, you know, this was a great Bristol industry,

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-which takes us to this fantastic image.

-Yes.

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It's a painting of a sailor on deck.

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I subsequently discovered that the packages, which look a bit odd,

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are actually tobacco packets.

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So this is the art work for an advertisement.

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-It is, yes, absolutely.

-How did you get it?

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I bought it in an auction in Bristol about eight years ago,

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when I think Imperial Tobacco were selling off...

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-Oh, the great sale off of all of the history.

-Absolutely, yes.

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What date do you think this is?

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I originally thought it was about 1930,

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but in fact, I understand it's about 1916.

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-I was going to say, it looks somehow Edwardian to me.

-Mm, yes.

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But just think of all the industries of that period,

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Edwardian, '20s and '30s, the railways, tobacco, Shell,

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all using art to promote their goods.

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It was a time when art has never been better served by commerce,

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but do we know that this was ever used?

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-And the answer is...

-We do.

-We do, yes, there it is. Isn't that great?

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So here we see him, smartened up, younger,

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and now he's actually carrying...

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The words have come onto the packs.

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-This, of course is Players, not Wills.

-True.

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-But they were the same group by then.

-Same part of Imperial Tobacco.

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We can tie it together and say this might have been something

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that they had in the board room and never used, but, yes...

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-Absolutely, there it is.

-Here it is.

-Yes.

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-So what did you pay for this?

-This cost, I think, £160 in 1999.

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I mean, that was a fantastic bargain, it's great history.

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I'm going to go £600,

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-£800, possibly £1,000, simply because it's such a great image.

-Mm.

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And you know, it is the history of this city,

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it's why you and I are standing here, it's wonderful.

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Well, you don't have the look of a dandy about you, but if you were,

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and if we were in the 18th century,

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then you might have worn one of these.

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This is a small sword, and it's a later type of rapier, in fact.

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Now, I've seen small swords made of steel and brass and silver,

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even gold, but I've never, ever seen one made of glass.

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Tell me a little bit about it.

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Um, when my uncle died two years ago,

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my mother asked me if there was anything that I'd like from him,

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and I remember him having a sword in his cupboard,

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so I asked if the sword was still there,

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and she said yes, so she gave me the sword.

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OK, and what do you think the hilt is made of?

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-I think that's Bristol Blue.

-Bristol Blue glass?

-Yeah.

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That's exactly what it is.

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Now, I've never seen a hilt on a small sword

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made of Bristol Blue glass before, so I think it's quite rare.

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It would have been carried, I suppose, at the time,

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as an ornament of fashion,

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because this really is quite spectacular, isn't it?

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You can imagine this at the side of this rather dandyish chap,

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wandering around town carrying this sword, and of course,

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if perhaps he was approached by some ne'er do well,

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he could easily draw the sword out, and out would come this rather...

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It's gone now, but there would have been

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an incredibly sharp and dangerous point on the end,

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you've lost probably a couple of inches of this,

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and it's a thrusting weapon,

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not a cutting weapon, and it's a dangerous object, really,

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but I think it's rare, and I think it's late George III,

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and I think that a collector would probably pay a couple of hundred pounds for it.

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-Oh.

-It's a nice object.

-That's lovely, thank you very much.

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This is my great-uncle.

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He went out to Canada for the Daily Mirror as a reporter and photographer,

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and he stayed.

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He married into the Blackfoot tribe, the chief died,

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and he married his wife.

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-He didn't poison him?

-No!

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And adopted the daughter, who was called Mary One Spot.

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-No!

-Yes.

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-Did she have a spot?

-I've no idea.

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But his wife was called Maggie Big Belly.

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-You're joking!

-No, so he fell in love, but he was so interested in...

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What was he covering out there? What date are we talking about?

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Um, about 1913 he would have gone out there, aged about 18 years old.

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He took over 2,000 photographs.

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Of the Sioux tribe?

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Of the Sioux, Blackfoot, Sarsi, Stoney Indians.

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Um, the plains Indians, mainly.

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So this is all in Calgary, isn't it?

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-Yes. Calgary, yes.

-Yes.

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And he took over 2,000 photographs,

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and they're now in the Glenbow Museum in Calgary.

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-Have you been out there?

-No, I haven't.

-You must.

-We must.

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So what did he do out there with the tribe? Did he...?

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He became a saddle maker.

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-Oh.

-And this, I presume, was some of his work,

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although I'm not 100% certain.

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It's beautiful, kept well, hasn't it?

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Beautifully done, yes. That's beautifully done, tooled leather.

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-Yes,

-Because of course those gloves are wonderful, and so soft,

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very bright as well, you've obviously kept them very well,

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out of the light, and tell me about these pipes.

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Um, this is the pipe of peace, it used to have a feather, a white feather hanging from it,

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and this, apparently, would have been his personal pipe,

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although I'm told he never smoke or drank,

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which was why he was accepted into the tribe.

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-Oh, really?

-Well, the drinking, certainly.

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And this might have been to wear round a belt,

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and look at the pristine colours and everything,

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the wonderful bead work.

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This is another one, which I think is incredibly vibrant,

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really vibrant, that is just superb.

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What a wonderful story.

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You must make a pilgrimage, and to be honest, in this country,

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if these were to go up for auction,

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I can see the collection making maybe £10,000 to £15,000, but to be honest,

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they need to be in a sale in either New York or in Toronto, Montreal,

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even over in Calgary,

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but I would have thought it's more of an international importance

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to get the high price that it would in America.

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-Well, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

-Fantastic.

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Well, we've had further proof today that the Roadshow refreshes parts that other programmes cannot reach,

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like putting together the details of family histories,

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but I don't think we've ever helped create a family before.

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Remind us how the Roadshow played Cupid to you.

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Well, Bryony and I met on a chatroom on the Internet,

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and we started, on a Sunday,

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having a competition to see who can get nearest to the prices

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and the ages of various items on Antiques Roadshow,

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and this carried on for some while,

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and eventually we got round to meeting,

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and the rest is antiques, or history, as they might say.

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And the product of your union.

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This is Taliesin, yes, indeed.

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Oh I thought you might be called Henry Sandon Junior.

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Well, we did consider it, but, er, Taliesin got the vote in the end.

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Well, congratulations, and thank you for watching us,

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-and you can thank us for getting you together.

-Indeed, indeed.

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Not to everybody's taste, this particular design,

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let's have your thoughts on it, sir.

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No I think, frankly, I think they're hideous.

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They come from my wife's family, and we have an argument about it,

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she likes it very much and I don't like them,

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and I'd be quite happy to sell them,

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so that's one of the reasons why they've come here,

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to see what are they worth. Are they worth anything?

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-Everything's got a value.

-Yeah.

-Well, everything's got a price.

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Or price, absolutely.

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The name that comes to my mind when you look at these tables is Gillows.

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-Yes.

-Um, they're made of rosewood.

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-Yes.

-And this is what we call a tray top.

-Yes.

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Yes, they are a mixture, when we look at the base here, you've got this.

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-Almost looks like a dolphin's head.

-Yes.

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-That's a typical feature of Gillows.

-Yeah.

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And then you have these cluster columns,

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you have this piece which is almost cobbled together,

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acanthus leaves here, beautifully carved.

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-That's beautifully carved.

-Right.

-Very, very nice.

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-That is...

-It really is nice.

-It's all beautifully carved.

-Yes.

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But because I would attribute these to Gillows of Lancaster,

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they're very, very collectable and sought after,

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so you're going to be a happy bunny, you're going to be happy.

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I would actually put a value on these, being a pair,

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-of £5,000.

-Wow!

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-Do you like them now?

-No, I like the price, though!

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Well, they are very good things,

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they're very collectable, and very saleable.

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-That's a lot more than I would pay for them, but thank you.

-Thank you.

0:18:220:18:26

This is the kind of object that epitomises the tradition of amateur model making,

0:18:270:18:32

and it's quite fascinating for me to look at the way that this is constructed.

0:18:320:18:38

If we lift off this rather fragile roof, and look inside there,

0:18:380:18:43

-just look at the work in that.

-Quite a lot, yes.

0:18:430:18:46

What's incredible about it is that it's made out of so many scraps

0:18:460:18:50

-and bits and bobs.

-Yeah, that's right, it is.

0:18:500:18:53

And I can recognise so many things in that from my own childhood, even,

0:18:530:18:58

bits of Meccano kit, it's just a kind of melange of objects trouves

0:18:580:19:03

-which have ended up being a carousel, in effect.

-Yes.

0:19:030:19:07

I think that says a lot about the kind of patience that people have.

0:19:070:19:12

Do you know anything the patience of the person that made this?

0:19:120:19:16

-They must have had a lot.

-Did it belong to a relative, or...?

0:19:160:19:19

-No, it was bought in an auction a couple of years ago.

-OK.

0:19:190:19:22

Er, I fell in love with it, and I made my dad buy them.

0:19:220:19:26

-Had to buy them.

-Buy "them"?

-Buy them, because there's another one.

0:19:260:19:30

Oh, right. OK, so what drew you to it, what made you want to own it?

0:19:300:19:35

Look at it, come on, it's amazing,

0:19:350:19:37

the amount of time that went into that.

0:19:370:19:39

I could never do that myself,

0:19:390:19:41

and I couldn't have the real thing, so this is the next best one.

0:19:410:19:45

Let me analyse it a little bit, because I said objects trouves,

0:19:450:19:48

and I can see things here, I mean, the horses, the carousel horses,

0:19:480:19:52

remind me of my childhood,

0:19:520:19:54

when I used to have TinPo plastic cowboys and Indians.

0:19:540:19:57

That's essentially what these horses are. They're salvaged plastic horses.

0:19:570:20:02

-Yeah, re-used.

-Exactly.

0:20:020:20:04

I can see bits of moulding here

0:20:040:20:06

that come from the bits of moulding

0:20:060:20:08

that you use to fix onto wardrobe doors,

0:20:080:20:10

and things like that, you know,

0:20:100:20:12

you could buy those down at DIY shops in the '50s and '60s,

0:20:120:20:15

you've got little bits of mirror. If we spin it a bit by hand,

0:20:150:20:19

I can see that it actually even has a mechanism,

0:20:190:20:21

-the horses are bouncing on it.

-Yeah, that's right, they go up and down.

0:20:210:20:25

So despite the kind of naive construction,

0:20:250:20:29

there is a lot of skill to make that happen.

0:20:290:20:32

And I think that's what I like about the tradition of this construction.

0:20:320:20:37

Do you want to tell me how much you paid for it?

0:20:370:20:39

-Er, roughly £100 each.

-Roughly £100 each.

0:20:390:20:44

-Well, I think you paid probably the right kind of price.

-Right.

0:20:440:20:48

I think, looking at this in isolation,

0:20:480:20:50

I feel as a kind of naive interesting object, it's worth £150 to £200.

0:20:500:20:54

-You were on the right side.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:20:540:20:56

As a tribute to the person who made it, let's see if we can get it going.

0:20:560:21:01

Why don't you make the connection?

0:21:010:21:04

It's struggling a bit, I think that 1960s Meccano motor,

0:21:040:21:10

possibly just not quite powerful enough for it.

0:21:100:21:14

-Lovely, thank you very much.

-Thanks a lot, cheers.

0:21:140:21:17

I have to say this is perhaps the tallest doll I've seen,

0:21:270:21:31

tell me a bit about her.

0:21:310:21:32

It was my mother's, she was given it when she was a girl,

0:21:320:21:36

and I inherited it when she died.

0:21:360:21:38

-But she's a doll with a difference, isn't she?

-She's a parasol doll.

0:21:380:21:42

I'm going to start rooting in her undies, which looks a bit weird,

0:21:420:21:46

but anyway, somewhere under there is what I'm looking for, which is this.

0:21:460:21:50

Isn't she wonderful? Um, I love the... How incongruous is this?

0:21:530:21:59

It's very surreal just having those feet on the end there. How lovely.

0:21:590:22:03

The head made out of composition,

0:22:050:22:08

nice inlaid glass eyes there, mohair wig,

0:22:080:22:11

and then you've got the mechanism underneath, and down at the bottom,

0:22:110:22:15

you have the little papier mache feet,

0:22:150:22:17

beautifully decorated in their shoes.

0:22:170:22:19

-Date-wise I'd have thought we're talking about 1910ish.

-Yes.

0:22:190:22:23

But it's the sort of thing that dolly collectors just love,

0:22:230:22:26

-anything novel like this.

-Yes.

0:22:260:22:28

Um, so although the head isn't a very exciting head,

0:22:280:22:31

it's what's in between that makes her interesting,

0:22:310:22:34

and I would have thought that a collector would pay

0:22:340:22:36

-probably around £250 for her.

-Really?

0:22:360:22:39

Yes, she's just great, so, um, don't use her too often, now.

0:22:390:22:43

-I'll try not to.

-Try not to.

0:22:430:22:45

Thank you very much indeed.

0:22:450:22:47

If we'd seen the brooch on its own, I probably would have thrown it away

0:22:490:22:53

with the other things that we took out the loft.

0:22:530:22:55

Well, let's talk a little bit about it, because it is,

0:22:550:23:00

from my point of view, quite an exciting find.

0:23:000:23:03

-Oh, really?

-And the brooch itself was made in about 1850-1860.

0:23:030:23:08

Now, the design of it, clearly,

0:23:080:23:11

you can see here is in the form of a beautifully carved cherub or putto,

0:23:110:23:16

Cupid, in coral.

0:23:160:23:17

This beautiful pink coral, and then it is embellished with diamonds.

0:23:170:23:24

-Oh, right, OK.

-Mm, because when you look at it,

0:23:240:23:27

it is a prime example of a lover's piece of jewellery there,

0:23:270:23:31

I mean, Cupid, you couldn't get something that is more directly connected with love and affection,

0:23:310:23:36

and all these different things,

0:23:360:23:38

which were so potent symbols in the Victorian period.

0:23:380:23:41

The coral itself probably came from Naples, so it's Neapolitan coral.

0:23:410:23:46

When you turn it over, you look at the back,

0:23:460:23:48

and you can see this delightful yellow-gold mount at the back.

0:23:480:23:51

Now, what do you think it might be worth?

0:23:510:23:54

Well, given the box, I thought maybe £100 or so.

0:23:540:23:59

-Mm, you're wrong.

-Right.

0:23:590:24:02

I think that such a piece like this,

0:24:020:24:05

with all its connections with love, sentimentality, corals and diamonds,

0:24:050:24:10

that's worth £1,500.

0:24:100:24:11

My God.

0:24:110:24:13

-Really?

-Mmm.

0:24:130:24:16

-Blimey.

-Yeah.

0:24:160:24:17

So, I don't know about you, but do you think you should go back into the loft,

0:24:180:24:23

-to examine whether there might be further pieces in there?

-Maybe I should!

0:24:230:24:26

Now if somebody with a disappointing valuation were to step outside this

0:24:340:24:37

building and hurl their fibreglass Chippendale into the air, it might well land in the forecourt of BBC

0:24:370:24:43

Bristol which would be ironic because that is where the Roadshow was conceived 30 years ago.

0:24:430:24:48

It didn't start with any great ambitions, just hoping to please a few discerning viewers at home, but

0:24:480:24:53

it became a hit all over the world, and Lars, you were with the show when it started to stretch its legs.

0:24:530:24:59

-I was.

-But for you, the first trip abroad was going home.

0:24:590:25:02

It was going to home, to my country of birth, Denmark.

0:25:020:25:06

In 1990, we went to Hamlet's castle at Elsinore and then

0:25:060:25:09

after a few herrings, washed down with beer and Schnapps of course,

0:25:090:25:12

we went over the water to Sweden and did an edition from Malmo.

0:25:120:25:16

I remember somebody telling me when I was starting

0:25:160:25:20

that these were carved under water.

0:25:200:25:22

Quite a few of the elderly clients didn't understand or speak English.

0:25:220:25:27

Sometimes you had a translator sitting behind whispering to the Dane...

0:25:270:25:31

THEY SPEAK DANISH

0:25:310:25:33

Or in some cases we actually had an ear piece.

0:25:370:25:40

Are you a collector of watches?

0:25:400:25:43

-TRANSLATION:

-No, my husband bought them in auction about 7,8 years ago I think.

0:25:430:25:49

Just by chance? You mean he...?

0:25:490:25:51

Yes, he likes gold-coloured things, they were so nice, he couldn't resist them.

0:25:510:25:57

It was quite an amazing show because we had 3,000 people actually turn up in Denmark,

0:25:570:26:02

in spite of the fact that there was no tradition of Antiques Roadshow in Denmark at all.

0:26:020:26:07

-And where did you go next?

-Well, it took us three years to recover... so in '93 we went to Jamaica!

0:26:070:26:13

Now that was a wonderful show.

0:26:130:26:16

We were out of doors in the garden of a fantastic mansion,

0:26:190:26:24

people in their lovely summer frocks.

0:26:240:26:27

I remember Hugo Morley-Fletcher, having told the lady that her little

0:26:270:26:32

brown teapot was worth somewhere around ten Jamaican dollars, she said, "Great, I'll take the money".

0:26:320:26:38

Not antique, I mean in every shop in England that's what everybody drinks

0:26:400:26:44

their tea out of.

0:26:440:26:45

And there have been other trips abroad since then including, in my own time, Australia and Canada

0:26:490:26:54

and now of course lots of countries have their own version of the show.

0:26:540:26:59

The American version started 10 years ago and hit the jackpot at once.

0:26:590:27:03

Here's the way they do it over there.

0:27:030:27:06

Watch as this man discovers

0:27:070:27:09

his family heirloom is a national treasure.

0:27:090:27:12

I don't know an awful lot about it, except that, um,

0:27:120:27:15

it was given by Kit Carson, given to the foster father of my grandmother.

0:27:150:27:22

Are you a wealthy man, Ted?

0:27:220:27:24

-No.

-Well, sir, um...

0:27:240:27:27

I'm still a little nervous here, I have to tell you.

0:27:270:27:31

On a really bad day, this textile would be worth three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

0:27:310:27:36

-On a good day, it's about half a million dollars.

-Oh, my God!

0:27:370:27:41

You had no idea?

0:27:410:27:43

I had no idea. Just laying on the back of a chair.

0:27:430:27:47

Well, sir, you have a national treasure.

0:27:470:27:50

-Wow.

-A national treasure.

0:27:500:27:53

Gee!

0:27:530:27:54

-Congratulations, congratulations.

-I can't believe this.

0:27:540:27:58

Big money, big emotions, what's American for lovely-jubbly?

0:27:580:28:02

Well, it's true, the American angle is very much fixed towards the dollars, they love big bucks.

0:28:020:28:09

In fact they even believe they invented the format

0:28:090:28:13

because I had an American business contact who when he heard that I was in the Antiques Roadshow in Britain,

0:28:130:28:18

he said, "Gee you've got a show in the United Kingdom as well?"

0:28:180:28:21

They think they've invented it.

0:28:210:28:23

Bless them, how sweet.

0:28:230:28:26

How did it come into your possession?

0:28:310:28:33

Well, we go out quite a few times, you know,

0:28:330:28:36

and look round various little shops and junk places, and I spotted this and...

0:28:360:28:41

-You mean I spotted it.

-No, I spotted if first.

0:28:410:28:43

Because I actually bought it.

0:28:430:28:45

I was thinking about buying it but she beat me to it, you know.

0:28:450:28:48

We've had it now for some time. We don't really know what it is.

0:28:480:28:52

-You didn't know what it was when you bought it?

-No.

-Just thought it was interesting.

0:28:520:28:56

-You have it out on display?

-Yes. I liked it because it's feminine.

0:28:560:29:00

OK, right, well, if we look at it, it's made of brass

0:29:000:29:04

and obviously it's in the design of a lady's shoe with a bow on the front and a little holder half-way along,

0:29:040:29:12

and then at the end you have this brass disc which is adjustable up and downwards and I think,

0:29:120:29:19

having looked at it carefully, it's a Victorian hair tong curler heater.

0:29:190:29:26

-Right.

-Really? All right.

-And I'll tell you how it would work.

0:29:260:29:29

The handles of the curler would be here

0:29:290:29:33

and then the column, the body, would be there

0:29:330:29:36

and then the tongs would be at the end, all right?

0:29:360:29:39

A little bit of wick inside there which would be lit.

0:29:390:29:42

-OK.

-This adjustable, a disc, as I mentioned, according to the height of the tongs.

0:29:420:29:48

And you would put your tongs down there, light it,

0:29:480:29:51

and then after 5 minutes you'd have them heated up,

0:29:510:29:54

so it's an unusual quirky object and I think it's extremely appealing.

0:29:540:30:00

-Yes, I love it.

-We love it, don't we?

-Yes, yes.

0:30:000:30:02

People come in and they say, "Oh, what's that?" Polished up, it looks lovely in the room, doesn't it?

0:30:020:30:07

I think it dates from probably the late 19th century, 1890.

0:30:070:30:12

It's difficult to put a value on it because it's not something that we, you know, that I've seen before.

0:30:120:30:17

-You bought it in a shop?

-Yes.

-One of you anyway.

-Yes, me.

-Yes, all right, but I spotted it!

0:30:170:30:23

How much did you pay for it?

0:30:230:30:25

The princely sum of £5.

0:30:250:30:28

-And that was when?

-About six months ago.

0:30:280:30:30

-Six months ago, yes.

-Oh, only as recently as that.

-In Chepstow, yeah. Chepstow.

0:30:300:30:34

I think that was a pretty good buy because people like unusual objects.

0:30:340:30:39

At auction today, I'd probably expect it to fetch £100-£150.

0:30:390:30:42

-Oh.

-Good lord!

-So there you are, Victorian hair tong curler heater.

0:30:420:30:49

-Brilliant.

-Lovely.

-Lovely.

-Thanks very much.

-First one I've ever seen on the Roadshow.

0:30:490:30:52

-Thank you for bringing it in.

-A pleasure, thank you.

-Thank you.

0:30:520:30:55

Your aunt, has she told you very much about the jewellery?

0:30:560:31:00

Nothing, I'd never seen it before until we emptied her drawers.

0:31:000:31:04

So you know nothing about what you've brought.

0:31:040:31:07

Begs the question, what are they worth? Any idea?

0:31:070:31:11

Absolutely no idea.

0:31:110:31:14

-Could be costume jewellery?

-Probably.

0:31:140:31:16

OK, this one here,

0:31:170:31:18

do you know of a gemstone that comes from somewhere in Australia?

0:31:180:31:23

It's opal. Is it opals?

0:31:230:31:24

It's opals,

0:31:240:31:26

and that necklace is the sort of piece that probably was made,

0:31:260:31:31

I would think in round about 1900-1910, it has a rather Craft look to it.

0:31:310:31:37

It's mounted in silver and there's the back of it,

0:31:370:31:41

and it's very typical of that sort of Craft look for jewellery

0:31:410:31:45

that would have been made at the start of the 20th century,

0:31:450:31:48

so I'm interested to know where she might have got that from.

0:31:480:31:51

You don't know what the story was?

0:31:510:31:53

-No, sorry.

-Um, the...

0:31:530:31:56

I expect she inherited it, or was given it.

0:31:560:31:58

OK, what do you think about that?

0:31:580:32:01

That gold brooch?

0:32:010:32:02

-It's rubbish.

-You think it's rubbish?

0:32:020:32:04

Well, I think it's sort of, it looks like cheap stones.

0:32:040:32:08

-OK. Well, in fact it's a natural hard stone in a gold frame.

-Really?

0:32:080:32:13

Yeah, and in the middle part of the 19th century they were making a lot

0:32:130:32:17

-of jewellery that ever so slightly recapitulated the past.

-Oh, OK.

0:32:170:32:21

So this is a revivalist brooch of the 19th century

0:32:210:32:24

so although you think it's rubbish, it's a gold brooch

0:32:240:32:27

-with a natural hard stone in the centre.

-I didn't think it was gold.

0:32:270:32:31

Now we move on to this, tell me what you know about this piece,

0:32:310:32:35

or what do you think it might be?

0:32:350:32:37

Well, I don't know anything, but I'm guessing that they

0:32:370:32:40

might have belonged to my great-grandmother.

0:32:400:32:43

-OK.

-Who...

0:32:430:32:45

It would be the 1880s or something,

0:32:450:32:49

I can't quite remember.

0:32:490:32:50

-Well...

-I think it's a set, it looks like a set.

0:32:500:32:54

It is a set.

0:32:540:32:55

-I think you're probably going to find it was made before you think.

-Oh, OK.

0:32:550:33:00

-I think it was made in the reign of George IV to William IV.

-Really?

0:33:000:33:05

Yeah, so I think we're looking at an age of it for round about sort of,

0:33:050:33:09

I suppose, 1825-35, lovely garnets.

0:33:090:33:13

-Garnets.

-They're garnets, that's the red stones.

-No.

0:33:130:33:16

Yes, they're not paste, they're genuine garnets.

0:33:160:33:19

-Oh, good heavens.

-And the frames

0:33:190:33:22

are beautifully wrought, gold filigree frames around the outside.

0:33:220:33:27

OK.

0:33:270:33:29

Now from all this, one can say

0:33:290:33:31

that this is not a box of costume jewellery,

0:33:310:33:34

so shall give you a sense of what the values are?

0:33:340:33:37

OK.

0:33:370:33:40

The necklace there, that Arts and Crafts necklace,

0:33:400:33:44

I would say that's probably worth about £800.

0:33:440:33:47

-Really?

-Yeah, so that's that one.

0:33:470:33:50

-OK.

-The brooch which you consider is rubbish.

-Well, I... yes.

0:33:500:33:56

I would say I would think it's probably worth at least £400 to £500.

0:33:560:34:02

-I'm glad you didn't throw it out.

-I nearly didn't bring it.

0:34:020:34:05

The garnet set, the fact that the garnets are all so well matched

0:34:050:34:09

and they're very large, rich red stones, much bigger than you normally find,

0:34:090:34:14

so I think that this set is probably worth £2,000.

0:34:140:34:20

SHE GASPS

0:34:200:34:22

Well, that is a real surprise, that is a real surprise.

0:34:220:34:27

Thank you, well, that's been really helpful.

0:34:270:34:31

-What have we got here?

-It's a Chinese snuff bottle.

0:34:310:34:34

OK, now I have to tell you we see dozens of these on the Roadshow,

0:34:360:34:42

where did this one come from?

0:34:420:34:44

I actually won it about 15 years ago from the Sunday Express magazine.

0:34:440:34:51

They had a competition every week where they featured an antique

0:34:510:34:54

and a little write-up about it

0:34:540:34:56

and you just had to send off your answer to the question.

0:34:560:34:59

Do you know, I was involved in that competition,

0:34:590:35:02

-I supplied some of the objects.

-Were you? Really?

0:35:020:35:04

How funny. So what was the... what did you have to do?

0:35:040:35:08

Well, you just had to send off the answer

0:35:080:35:11

which was what period this dated from, and it was very easy

0:35:110:35:15

-because the answer was in the text, anyone could have entered.

-OK, one of those.

0:35:150:35:20

You didn't have to be an antiques expert to know, and it was 1800,

0:35:200:35:23

so I sent my postcard off with my name and address

0:35:230:35:27

and lo and behold a few weeks later, this came through.

0:35:270:35:31

Do you like it?

0:35:310:35:32

I do, actually, it's unusual, I find it unusual.

0:35:320:35:36

-Did you know it was made of jade?

-I thought it was, yes.

0:35:360:35:39

Um, jade to the Chinese is their most precious material

0:35:410:35:45

because it confers incorruptibility on the dead

0:35:450:35:50

and they've carved it,

0:35:500:35:53

in some cases incredibly skilfully and beautifully,

0:35:530:35:57

for thousands of years.

0:35:570:35:59

And when the Chinese took to snuff

0:35:590:36:03

in basically the 18th century, which they did...

0:36:030:36:08

I mean they just went mad for it, snuff was the thing.

0:36:080:36:11

This one is very lightly

0:36:110:36:14

and subtly engraved with dragons,

0:36:140:36:18

and dragons of course are...

0:36:180:36:20

unlike Europe where they're a sign of bad news...

0:36:200:36:22

a sign of good news in China.

0:36:220:36:25

How much did you pay for the postage?

0:36:250:36:27

Well...about 12 pence in those days.

0:36:270:36:31

Well, you've converted your 12 pence into £1,000.

0:36:310:36:37

A thousand pounds?

0:36:370:36:39

My God.

0:36:390:36:41

Well done.

0:36:440:36:47

I have a real passion for folk art and naive paintings

0:36:470:36:51

and this is just about...

0:36:510:36:54

-Ticks all the boxes doesn't it?

-It ticks, yes, yes, I was told it was the primitive school.

0:36:540:36:59

Exactly, you're a very lucky girl

0:36:590:37:01

and I guess that it's something that you inherited.

0:37:010:37:05

Yes, it was, I used to live in this house, and my husband...

0:37:050:37:10

before he was my husband... and his parents lived there.

0:37:100:37:13

He used to go down to this pub at the bottom for a pint.

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-Yes.

-Where there was an old chap called Ernie who had a room,

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a rented room underneath one of these other houses.

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And he used to get a bit worse for wear every now and then,

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so he needed a bit of help back up to his bedroom

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and one night my husband helped him up and saw this painting,

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and said, "Oh, I like that, where did you get it?"

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so Ernie said, "I got it off a dustbin up in Clifton, I liked it too"

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so he said, "If anything happens to me, you can have it".

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So in due course my husband went into the RAF, Ernie died,

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and the painting was again put on a dustbin.

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-No?

-And the landlord from here

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knew that it had been promised to my husband, took it off the dustbin,

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wrapped it in newspaper and took it into my in-laws.

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Now, lots of information to take in there.

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-The first thing is of course we're talking about Bristol.

-Yes.

0:38:090:38:13

And when I arrived yesterday in Bristol, I was looking at these houses.

0:38:130:38:17

-Yes.

-Am I right in thinking they're now coloured?

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-Yes, these are.

-Yes, they're all painted different colours.

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Yes, I think we were the very first ones

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to paint it in a pale yellow

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and then subsequently other people followed and put other paint...

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-It's all your fault.

-It's all mine, all my fault because I liked yellow.

0:38:310:38:34

So we've got this, this lovely picture of the mud dock,

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or the mud flat, but lovely detail in all of this, little figures,

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incredibly evocative,

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but obviously done by somebody who was not a great artist.

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We have a signature down here at the bottom. "P. Key" it looks like.

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-I think it's Key, yes.

-Um, sadly not a name that anybody...

0:38:540:38:58

-No.

-..can really give a huge history to,

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but that was often the way, they were one up from amateur.

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It's not everybody's cup of tea,

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but I'm pleased to say that there are enough people like me out there,

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and probably like you out there, who really appreciate it for what it is,

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rather than for what it isn't, and I would have thought

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we're certainly talking about £3,000 to £5,000

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and maybe a tiny bit more than that,

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but it's a great picture and I'm sure you're going to treasure it forever.

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I love it, and one of my sons already has his name on it.

0:39:290:39:32

-Very good, so it'll keep in the family.

-Yes.

0:39:320:39:35

I have two words to say about this clock.

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Absolutely fabulous, and I've noticed that everyone passing round here

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is looking at it, going, "My goodness, what on earth is that?"

0:39:440:39:48

I gather that there is a certain link

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between this clock and this rather fine standing gentleman.

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What sort of connection is there?

0:39:560:39:58

This gentleman was my great-great-grandfather Joseph Hume

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who was the MP for Montrose and leader of the Radical Party

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-in the 19th century up till his death in 1855.

-Right.

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And the received wisdom is that this clock was made for his funeral,

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presumably shortly after 1855.

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my own connection with it

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is that it used to sit in my grandfather's kitchen

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as rather a despised item and he used to, in his Scottish way,

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call it "that damned clock".

0:40:280:40:30

In his kitchen?

0:40:300:40:31

Oh, it lived in the kitchen, it was not considered fit for the hall.

0:40:310:40:35

How interesting.

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It is stylistically the most astonishing clock

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-and he died in 1855.

-Yes.

0:40:420:40:45

And we've got these wonderful funereal plumes atop the case,

0:40:450:40:49

but...

0:40:490:40:51

being Scottish, albeit very flamboyant,

0:40:510:40:54

I think it would be extremely unlikely

0:40:540:40:57

that any decoration would have sat on top of this drum head

0:40:570:41:01

when it was originally made, and furthermore,

0:41:010:41:05

this style of the case is very much in the style of a man called Thomas Hope

0:41:050:41:10

who epitomised the very high Regency style which was entwined within

0:41:100:41:16

this Egyptian fever that was sparked off by Napoleon's campaign in Egypt,

0:41:160:41:22

the Nile campaign in 1798, I believe.

0:41:220:41:26

And that style is reflected in this case,

0:41:260:41:31

by the sarcophagus-shaped plinth by these wonderful lion paw feet,

0:41:310:41:37

but that's all entwined within this Gothic architecture

0:41:370:41:41

which is absolutely fantastic and in actual fact,

0:41:410:41:43

it's not only on the front and the sides, but it's just as good quality at the back,

0:41:430:41:47

so it is a fantastic high Regency piece of furniture

0:41:470:41:51

that happens to be a clock.

0:41:510:41:53

Now this style was not prevalent in the 1850s,

0:41:530:41:57

it was prevalent in the 1820s, 1830s,

0:41:570:42:00

and I think it's extremely unlikely that it was made to celebrate his death.

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I think he owned it and then

0:42:040:42:08

on his death, he probably loved the clock,

0:42:080:42:11

it would have been an extremely expensive piece of furniture, he probably loved the clock,

0:42:110:42:15

and the family knew it,

0:42:150:42:17

and they put these wonderful funereal feathers atop the case, absolutely fantastic.

0:42:170:42:22

J&W Howden were Scottish clockmakers of the 1820s-1830s,

0:42:220:42:28

they were not in the 1850s.

0:42:280:42:31

-Ah, ah right.

-Um, have you got it insured at the moment?

-No.

0:42:310:42:34

-Not at all?

-It's despised, I tell you it's a despised item in our family.

0:42:340:42:39

Well, the great thing about this is that it's...

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Clock collectors will love it because it's a well-made clock,

0:42:430:42:47

it's high Regency style, but furniture collectors will love it more.

0:42:470:42:51

And I think that at auction

0:42:510:42:53

it could quite easily

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make between £30,000 and £40,000.

0:42:550:42:58

-Wow.

-And you ought to be insuring it

0:42:580:43:00

for at least the upper end of that amount.

0:43:000:43:03

-Wow.

-Absolutely fantastic.

0:43:030:43:05

-Gobsmacked.

-Thank you very much for bringing it in.

-Well... thank you.

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And with that, another Roadshow bites the dust.

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When the Wills family proposed this building so many years ago,

0:43:130:43:16

they said they wanted something that would be here in 400 years' time.

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It opened for business over 80 years ago and it's still looking as fresh as a daisy.

0:43:200:43:25

Perhaps we'll do the next Roadshow from here in 2325,

0:43:250:43:28

but for the moment, from the Wills Memorial Building in Bristol, goodbye.

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