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This week, the Antiques Roadshow's cameras zoom in | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
on a unique square mile of our capital city. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
Here, kings and queens have walked | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
and their ministers have trodden the corridors of power. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
This part of London is the birthplace of the pinstriped bureaucracy we know and love. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
A place of spin and political mischief. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Well, you might say that - | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
I couldn't possibly comment. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Downing Street, Whitehall, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
the address that Francis Urquhart, Chief Whip | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
and television's most fascinating villain, yearned to call home. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
Millions of us watched as he trampled his way to the top. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
People come from all over the world to see for themselves the icons and the institutions of SW1. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
The Queen's Household Cavalry have their photographs taken a thousand times a day, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
but they never smile or offer autographs. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Meanwhile, on the opposite side of the road is our venue for today, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
Whitehall's Banqueting House. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
It's seen countless royal and society occasion. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
It also witnessed, on a dark January day in 1649, one dreadful event. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:05 | |
Having been found guilty of treason by Cromwell's men, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
King Charles I walked through the Banqueting House for the last time. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
He was taken out onto the scaffold and executed | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
to a great groan from the crowd below. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Eleven years later, his son Charles II was restored to the throne | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
and returned to the Banqueting House to general rejoicing. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
This, then, is the background to today's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Shall we see treasures? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Our experts will hope so - | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
I couldn't possibly comment. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
We've got the royal arms appearing on the front here, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
those are actually the Hanoverian royal arms. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
This wonderful inscription: "God Preserve King George 1725." | 0:02:43 | 0:02:50 | |
But what's it doing with the Yeoman Warders? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
Well, it was presented, as we understand, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
by a Yeoman Warder in the 1720s | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
to commemorate the swearing in of a Yeoman Warder. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Right. So what exactly is a Yeoman Warder? | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
Well, we all come from a military background. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
We are the part of the Sovereign's bodyguard | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
known as "The Yeomen of the Guard in extraordinaire". | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
We live and work in the Tower of London, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
but to qualify to become a Yeoman Warder, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
you have to have served a minimum of 22 years military service, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
currently in the Army, the Air Force, or the Royal Marines. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-Right. -You have to have been awarded, during your service career, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
the long service and good conduct medal which we... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
So you have to keep your nose clean then! | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
Basically, 18 years of undetected crime is the way that we look at it. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
You also have to have achieved the minimum rank of Warrant Officer | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
during your service in the Armed Forces, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
and be between 40 and 55 years of age on appointment. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
The pewter bowl is all to do with the swearing in, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
which takes place after a Yeoman Warder has been at the Tower for about six or eight weeks. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:58 | |
And, after his induction, he takes the oath of allegiance | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
to Her Majesty the Queen in front of the constable | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
or the resident governor of the Tower of London, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
and then the tradition is he comes down to the Yeoman Warders' Club | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
-where we drink a toast. -And what do you drink? | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
Oh, it's port usually, which is put in a glass bowl | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
which is kept inside the pewter bowl and it's a great tradition | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
that's been going on for literally hundreds of years. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
We really wanted to just make sure that it is the genuine item. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
-It is absolutely genuine. -That's fascinating. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-It is a jolly rare punch bowl. -Is it? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
Punch bowls of this date in silver, you don't see that many of them. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
In pewter, pewter is a difficult thing on the market, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
it's not very fashionable as a collector's area, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
but this one is historically so fascinating. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
Almost impossible to put a true value on, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
-You're never going to sell it. -No, not at all, it'll stay with us. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
What are you going to put on it? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
I don't know whether you've got it insured at all, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
but I would think you'd have to insure it for at least £5,000. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Really? My goodness! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Because it is such a rarity | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and there's so much history attached to it. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Well, that's absolutely fascinating. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-Good. -Thank you so much. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
This is a beautiful Russian Easter egg, an Imperial Easter egg | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
made in the 19th century, probably about 1860, something like that. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
Superbly hand painted, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
not like those ones that are coming out of Russia now, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
which are mass produced and printed. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Every tiny little inch is painted | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and the gilding of course is so wonderful as well, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
that blue colour is marvellous and the gilding is great. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
How did it come into your possession? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Well, it was... It belonged to my grandfather | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
who was the Count Boris Konstantinovich Konstantinov | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
in Russia, and he was of course dispossessed after the Revolution. | 0:05:54 | 0:06:00 | |
He had a daughter, my mother, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
she was orphaned at the age of 10, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
and she was taken out of Russia by a cousin | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
who took certain things to remind her of her family, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
so this is what she has from her father. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
This came with her? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
This came with her in 1928, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
first to Germany where she was hidden for four years | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
and then sent on to America in 1933 | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
and it's just remained in the family ever since. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
And when my mother passed away, it came to me. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Of course they're difficult to display, how do you display it? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
My mother arranged a meat thermometer that has a pole, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
so she would pole the egg on it, and she had a little finial on top. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
So it now sits in my cupboard on the famous meat thermometer. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
But they shouldn't be on that. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-It might be causing a little bit of damage on that. -Right. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
It should be threaded on a ribbon and hung, the proper way of doing them, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
so if you can do that, it will be kinder to the egg. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
Well, we must be kind to the egg. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Now, it's of fair value. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
The Russians are madly collecting their home-made things now, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
going back to the past, and this one, 1860-70 something like that, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:19 | |
they'd love this over in Russia. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
I reckon, because of its qualities, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
I think you're looking at something like between £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Oh, lovely, very nice, a good egg. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Now my colleagues tell me this is something I can get my teeth into, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
which you don't understand the joke | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
-until you realise it's actually a dental cabinet. -Yes, it is. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Why do you want to own a dental cabinet? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Well, we didn't. I didn't know it was a dental cabinet. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
I was shopping for a second-hand violin for my son, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
and it was in the next door shop window and I fell in love with it, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
and went in and bought it. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
And what did you love about it? | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
Its shape and its colour and the fact that this went up and down | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
and it has lots of drawers. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
I agree with you, I mean I still hate the dentist. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
-Yes. -But if you can imagine going back to the end of the 19th century, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
the wonderful leather chair, foot treadle, drill | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
and this would have been in the corner, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
holding all the dentist's instruments. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
It does lots of things, doesn't it? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
I mean there's a tiny little cabinet at the top | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and you open up the roll top here. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
You could have put some instruments out here with the mirror back, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and then all these little drawers open up | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
and you would have had all your probes and drill heads. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-There's some still left in here, aren't there? -Yes. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
So this would have been attached to a foot drill, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
and "zzzzz", they would have been drilling your teeth. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Oh, he's actually left some teeth behind as well! | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
So what do you keep in it now? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Well, we keep bits and pieces in it, the spare keys, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
but the thing that I loved about it was it's a sort of a celebration | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
of Victorian professionalism really, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
and the sort of thing you'd see in the set of a Bernard Shaw play | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
like "The Doctor's Dilemma". | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
There's two market values to this. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:08 | |
There are people who collect dental instruments | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
and, you know, this would make a wonderful housing | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
for a collection of dental instruments. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
Also, it will be a wonderful collector's cabinet for anything small, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
so for coins or medals | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
or something that would fit nicely in these drawers, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-because it all locks away, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
-If you just lock that one lock there, all these lock. -Correct. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
This locks, that locks, so it's a very secure collector's cabinet | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
-and I think it's worth more as that than as a dental piece. -Right. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-How much did you pay for it? Can you remember? -About 80 quid. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-80 quid, how long ago? -1970? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
'75 or '6, something like that. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
So 20, 25 odd years ago, right. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Today, probably you'd get between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
-So, a lovely piece. -Thank you. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
As you say, it's a delightful Victorian extravaganza | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
-and I'm sure it gives you much pleasure. -Thank you so much. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
It does, I'm so glad you like it too, thank you. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
-A glass and pewter jug. -Yes. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
-What's the history? -Well, the history of it... | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
I don't know much about the history of the jug | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
-except that it is late 19th century. -Aha. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
I got it from my father buying it in Portobello Road before the war. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:23 | |
-Before the war? -That's when we... Before the Second World War. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
How much did it cost him, have you any idea? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
It wouldn't have been much - everybody always says that - | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
-probably a shilling, half a crown maybe. -A shilling. -Yes. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-So... Well, that's good because I don't want your expectations to be overambitious. -No, no. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
I picked it up because it is a wonderful design, incredibly elegant, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
this long tapering piece of green glass and then these pewter mounts, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
and looking at the mounts we've got something | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
-which is absolutely typical of the Art Nouveau. -Mm. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
You say late 19th century, I'm going to quibble a little bit, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
I'm going to go for maybe ten years later. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
This is typical of the Art Nouveau style that was used by Liberty's, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
that great shop in Regent Street. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-Oh, yes, yes. -Around that time. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
And if we turn it upside down, we've got a mark and it says "Tudric" | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
which is one of the two trademarks | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
that Liberty sold their pewter through | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
in the early years of the 20th century. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
Now, the clue to who designed this is in that Celtic motif | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
and let's just have a look, if we're talking about design, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
that's not just a sort of straightforward strap handle, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
that is a handle which is stepped down at the top | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
and then it steps back up again at the bottom. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
If you look at it side on, it swells, tapers and swells out again. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
-Yes, yes. -Every element of this has been thought out. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
And the glass has been made specifically for the pewter | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
and vice versa, the whole is an organic piece of design. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
The only tragedy is that, at some stage, the tip of it has been punched | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
so that this lid is sort of sitting back, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
you see it sort of doesn't quite flush. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Oh, yes, it doesn't quite... no, I've noticed that. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Yes, that it doesn't quite fit. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-Well, I think I know who designed this. -Oh, yes? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Almost certainly a man from the Isle of Man called Archibald Knox. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
-Oh, yes. -He was one of Liberty's principal designers. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
In fact, when Liberty died Archibald Knox actually designed his headstone. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Highly thought of designer. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Oh, indeed, mm. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
So in 50-odd years it's crept up a little bit. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
I mean, we've got allow for this, this damage up here, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
but I think it's crept up | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
-to somewhere in the region of £1,500 to £2,500. -Oh, no, really? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
I was thinking of perhaps 200, but really, as much as that? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
Oh, well, thank you very much. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
I was totally intrigued | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
when you brought me this enigmatic piece of painted wood. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
Let's start with where did you get it from? | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Well, I live in a large block of flats | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
and my husband, who was then my boyfriend, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
came in one day and said "Yvonne," | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
we have a bin room just around the corner from where I am, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
he said, "Oh, come and see some interesting things in here." | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
So we ran and we just happened to see this. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
He said "What's this?" | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
"Oh, painting on a bit of wood." I said "What do you think?" | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
He said, "Well, it looks OK, you know we'll hold on to it." | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
And we put it on the mantelpiece and sort of just left it, and that's it. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
Well, on one hand, it is a piece of painted wood | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
and possibly the sort of thing that might end up in a dustbin, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
but when we turn it round we get a bit more of the story, don't we? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
And it says here, "Vesuvius, November 22nd 1886 | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
"from Castle Mare di Stabia by Herbert Sidney." | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Yes. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
And have you done any research yourself? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I looked on the internet, and sure enough I found that he is, you know, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
an artist of some renown and there is information about him there. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
Well, he was indeed and he was actually quite a prominent painter | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
but before we go any further there is something missing here, isn't there? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-The bottom half is missing. -Yes, the bottom. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
I suspect there many even be a bottom two thirds or even more, who knows? | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
-Right. -So at some point this picture has become broken up. -Yes. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
So we're in the rather delightful position of being able to speculate | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
on what the rest of the picture might have consisted of | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
and here we have the advantage of knowing a little bit about Herbert Sidney's work | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
because he did do history pictures with titles | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
to the effect of people running from blowing up volcanoes, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
and it may well be that at the bottom of this tempting looking mountainscape at the top | 0:14:24 | 0:14:30 | |
was some real action scene. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Could have been anything from two or three figures fleeing, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
to figures fighting, to horses galloping. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
In other words you can sit and look at this fragment | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
and just imagine what there might have been beneath. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
-Absolutely, yes. It's a pity it wasn't erupting. -I know. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
-An erupting volcano would have been rather better, I must say. -Yes. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
I think what had happened was, this is on panel, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
therefore canvas which would normally last the test of time, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
might get a bit blistered, might get a bit rotten, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
it's not like wood because if wood drops it sometimes cracks. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
We know that Elizabeth I would go into houses | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
and if she didn't like portraits of herself, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
she'd knock them into pieces and hurl them into the fire. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
-So wood, although it's hard, is also very vulnerable. -That's right. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
Now I suppose we have to talk about value. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
-Well, the value of this picture depends on whether we can find the other bit. -That's right. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
So if someone out there... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Please help me! | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
Exactly. And if you two could get together, | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
you could end up with a rather valuable marriage. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Well, let's just wait and hope, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-because, as it stands, it ain't worth much. -I understand that. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
It was a nice find anyway. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
I've brought along my umbrella, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
and I just wondered if you'd ever seen anything like this before. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
-Well, I've never seen one with a donkey's terminal before. -Right. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
But before I talk to you about it, tell me a little bit about the story. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
It was a gift to my great grandmother from Queen Mary, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
because my great grandmother was her lady in waiting, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
from 1923 until Queen Mary's death in 1953. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
So at some point your great grandmother must have said | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
to Queen Mary, "I really love that." | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
I'm sure she would have done, yes. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
-And they remembered. -Yes. -And now it's come down to you. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Yes, it's come down through the girls' line. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
One thing that is very unusual | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
is that it's got this lovely glazed cotton outer cover to keep it safe. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
-Right. -I mean that is a real mark of distinction, if I may say so, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
but if we take it off, let's have a look. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
-Is it in good condition? -Yes, it is. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Now you see that's another lovely thing. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
You normally expect to see umbrellas, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
-I mean our standard umbrellas are black. -Yes. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
But this wonderful vibrant purple. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
-Yes. -And, of course, this was probably made, let's say about 1890, | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
and in the 1890s -1900s there was a very formal etiquette about mourning. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
And if you were in full mourning, you had black, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-if you were in semi-mourning you were allowed to use purple. -Oh, right. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
So, this is an umbrella on a day when you're in semi-mourning. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:17 | |
So you've got this fabulous carved donkey's head. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
It's the sort of thing that would have been bought in the shops around the Louvre in Paris, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
-it's a real tourist, up-market tourist type gift. -Right. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:30 | |
Fantastic carving, I mean look at the bridle | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
and this lovely sort of swag and tassel. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I mean it's absolutely super | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
and the donkey's face has just got such character. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-Yes, he's smiling at you, isn't he? -He is, absolutely. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
-This is bamboo. -Right. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
And then this lovely... Why don't you put it up? | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
OK. Are you superstitious? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Well, sort of. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Yeah, the lovely thing is, I mean it's practically never been used, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
because what happens is of course the umbrella goes at the seams, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
so it's in super, super condition. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-I know you're never going to sell it. -No. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
I think, with its outer case... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
lovely provenance, couldn't be better if it tried, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
makes it quite a rare and special little thing. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I think it would be worth about £1,000. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Good grief! | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
Um, I'm stunned. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-You'd better get on and have some girls yourself. -Yeah! | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
If at this point I shouted, "Order! Order!" | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
I should be slapped on the wrist by the lady with me, because that's her line. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
The only woman Speaker in 700 years of the British Parliament, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
her voice has echoed around Whitehall, the House of Lords, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and today the Banqueting House. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
Baroness Boothroyd, welcome to the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Thank you for having me. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
And may I say, many congratulations, Antiques Roadshow. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-What a great show it is. -Thank you very much. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
You've seen the back of a few Prime Ministers in your time, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
and rumour has it that you've watched quite a few of the Roadshows | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
over their 30 years, right? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
That's right, I see it whenever I can, early Sunday evening, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
a nice time of relaxation. It's a great educational show. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I try not to miss it. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
What particularly has caught your eye, over the years? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Oh, Michael, I love jewellery. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Diamonds are a girl's best friend as far as I'm concerned. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
I love jewellery and so... | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I saw one piece, because opals are my birth stone. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
It's not everybody's favourite stone, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
but I did see one lovely piece | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
which you can have as a tiara or a necklace, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and I thought that was lovely. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
It is an Edwardian necklace, it dates from about 1900 | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
and it's a fantastic display of Australian opals | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
and the thing about opals is | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
they're a mineralogical jelly, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
they're not a sort of crystalline gem stone | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
in the same way that rubies and sapphires and diamonds are. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Lying on the table, we have this curious piece of metal. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Tell me what that is. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
Um, that's for a tiara. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
For a tiara, a tiara frame, and we have to make the necklace. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
-I wanted my daughter to wear it for her wedding. -Wouldn't she do that? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
No, she wouldn't. She wore it as a necklace. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
It's not much to ask of her, and it sits upside down like that, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
and many necklaces do make tiaras | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
when they're put up on these base metal frames. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Let's think about it financially, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
everybody's lusting after it, looking at it. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
I don't know what it's worth and I wouldn't part with it. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
No, I don't think it would be very easy to buy this necklace | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
for any less than about £5,000 or £6,000, maybe even more today. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Oh, that's quite a lot then. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
-That's good. -That's good. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
Well, the price of a good man's above opals, certainly. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
-Oh, I think so. -Thank you. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
So apart from your first love, which seems to be jewellery, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
what else has attracted you over the years? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
I like looking at furniture. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Some of the large pieces that are on display | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and come to the Antiques Roadshow I'm not envious about, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
because I associate myself with things, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and those big pieces wouldn't fit in my tiny home, so I'm not envious. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
But I like the smaller pieces, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
and there was one piece called a credenza. I liked that. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
I could find a spot in my living room | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
where that would fit very nicely. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
One should never judge a book by its cover | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
how do you come to have a piece like this? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
I wouldn't put the two of you together, obviously. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Well, the truth is, my grandmother left me this in 1976 | 0:21:32 | 0:21:39 | |
and my grandfather bought it | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
from a house clearance, and I think he paid 30 shillings. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
My grandmother said to me, "Mark, if anything should happen to me, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
"is there anything in this house that you'd like?" | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-And I said, "Well, I've always liked the credenza." -I think it's so attractive, it's so visual. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
I think you're looking at between £5,000 and £7,000. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
Blimey! Really? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Fantastic! | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
So, you've got a place in your home for that piece of furniture, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
but were there any bits in Parliament that you wish you could have taken home? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
Oh, nice pieces when I was in Speaker's House. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Lovely collection we have in Parliament, yes. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
There were one or two I would have liked. Alas, I had to kiss them goodbye, say goodbye to them. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
-Not a perk of the job? -No perks there, none at all! | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
-Betty Boothroyd, it's a joy to meet you, thank you very much... -My pleasure. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
-On behalf of the Roadshow in its 30th anniversary. -Thank you. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Well, here we are in one of London's most iconic buildings, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
only to find some reminders of another. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Tell me how you came by these clocks. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Well, unfortunately, they aren't mine. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
They do in fact belong to my boss | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
who picked them up about ten years ago on Brick Lane market in east London. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Which is just a weekly market, is it? | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Just popping down there on a Sunday | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
looking for sort of fabulous old bits of junk and that sort of thing. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
He saw a pile of old bits of kitchen and appliances, and he was going through it and found these | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
and spoke to the dealer who told him that they were in fact the clocks from the Stock Exchange. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
He didn't necessarily believe this, but bought them anyway as they were only £10 each. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
-And how many were there? -There are nine. -Nine? -Yeah. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-So another six like these? -Yes, yes. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
-Right. -And I think that's it, that's the complete set. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-But you're clutching a book. -I am. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
And that shows a photograph. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Well, he contacted the Stock Exchange to | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
find out, you know, really to verify if they were what he'd been told. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
As you can see they're here and, I mean, that is them. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
-This is brilliant, because this is the trading floor of the Stock Exchange. -Yes, yeah. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
It's brilliant to have that photograph, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
it pinpoints these timepieces exactly in that building | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
-at that moment in time. -Yeah. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
-The Queen opened the new Stock Exchange and that trading floor in 1972. -Oh, OK. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:15 | |
-So it's quite likely that these were installed in 1971 or 1972. -OK. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:21 | |
And they're rather wacky things, actually, because if we can open this one up, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
you would expect there to be some sort of movement behind it. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
But, in fact, all you've got are a series of wirings and condensers | 0:24:30 | 0:24:36 | |
that, in turn, would have been wired up to one central clock. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-OK. -And one central clock would have sent a series of messages to these nine repeaters. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:47 | |
Because you wanted the time to be absolutely accurate | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
through all nine of these. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
OK. What would the little lights have done? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I would imagine that the lights probably flashed a few moments before | 0:24:55 | 0:25:00 | |
-trading ceased in either one of the trading centres. -Oh, OK. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
So you could look at the wall and you could just remind yourself that Tokyo Stock Exchange is about to shut. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
Oh, OK. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
But if you were a big city whizz kid, right, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
and your bonus this year is only £8 million | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
and you want something for your loft building that you're going to really enjoy | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
and have a whizz of a time with your mates. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Have them on and flashing, it would be amazing. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
It would be something else, wouldn't it? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
So I think this lot, the nine of them, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
in the right sale, to the right audience, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
might make perhaps between £1,000 and £2,000 each. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
-So you might be talking about between £10,000 and £20,000 for these. -OK. -So, will your boss be pleased? | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
I think definitely. How could you not be, with that? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
At £90, it was certainly an investment, I think. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-Great, thanks for bringing them in. -Thank you very much. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Well, I know what this is, familiar action, but I've never ever seen one looking like that. What's the story? | 0:25:53 | 0:26:00 | |
Very few of them were made, they were manufacturer's demonstration pieces. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
That particular one was made by Ericsson of Beeston in Nottinghamshire in 1937. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
But specially made for exhibition purposes, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
-because it's all polished inside. -It is indeed. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Well, I know what that is. I don't know what this is. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
This is a House of Commons Division Bell transmitter, this is the apparatus that | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
was used in the House of Commons to signal to the MPs that a division or vote was about to take place. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
Right, so let's get this right. So, before every vote, there is the famous division bell. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:33 | |
-Exactly. -I think we've all heard of the division bell. -Yes. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
I hadn't realised it actually really was a bell. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
-And so this would sound and it would repeat its sounding several times, is that right? -Yes. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:45 | |
And then after six minutes the doors of the lobbies would shut. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
The door keeper shuts the door and locks them and any MP who comes after that is too late. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
-He cannot vote, so this is democracy. -It is. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It was in the Palace of Westminster, the House of Commons -why isn't it now? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
It was sold at the British Telecom auction. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
The museum sold off the contents of its stores and so on, and that included this apparatus. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
It says number one, is it the first one? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
It's the first one made, late 19th century, 1880s-1890s, I would say. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
So this had been there since it was installed in the late 19th century, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
day by day, operating the division. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Yes, but it's the only one of the original transmitters that survived. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
-This is it? -This is it. -This is the only one. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
So, only here can we hear the division bell driven by the original technology? | 0:27:25 | 0:27:32 | |
-Yes. -Think of who's used this, or heard it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
We start with Gladstone, you know, Gladstone heard this bell. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-Mm, he certainly did. -So did Asquith, so did Lloyd George, so did... | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
Well, right up to Churchill. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
-Indeed. -Every Prime Minister would have heard it. -That's quite correct. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Let's deal with two things. We have to talk about value. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
Now, you're the telephone enthusiast, specialist collector, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
you have much more knowledge than me, so I'm going | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
to reverse the normal process and say to you, what's that worth? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
That is worth £5,000 to £6,000 depending, you know, on the day. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
And it's my turn to say, "Good heavens, you can't be serious!" | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
And now I'm going to say to you, what's this worth? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
First of all, I'll say I agree with you entirely on that. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
It is such a rarity, this is Mecca for a telephone collector. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
And I think that price is perfectly reasonable. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
What's this worth? Well, as a piece of technical machinery, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
without its wonderful political historical overtones, it's worth a few hundred pounds. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:32 | |
If you factor in that this is the only surviving division bell | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
telegraph machine, I could imagine someone paying, God, £15,000 for it. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
Well, I'm going to be the Clerk and I'm going to call the division. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
It's a unique sound. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
-Actually, can I ask you, can you do it? -Yes, why not? | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
We say, "Clear the lobbies!" | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
-Clear the lobbies! -Clear the lobbies! | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
So how come you're bringing me a rusty old tin of whatever it's supposed to be...roasted veal? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
Well, the simple answer is that it's not just any tin, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
it's probably one of the first tins of preserved food in existence. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:29 | |
It was taken by Captain, subsequently Sir William Parry, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
on the Arctic Expedition in 1824, and, uniquely, it was taken twice. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
It was brought back to England in 1825 and taken out again in 1826 to the Arctic. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:46 | |
Now, this was deposited after 1826 in the Museum of the Royal United Services Institute, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
which used to be in this building in the Banqueting House, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
and it was kept with the preserved meat inside. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
It was essentially as a result of the success of these tins that the Royal Navy adopted, in 1831, canned | 0:30:01 | 0:30:11 | |
food as one of its requirements and the canning industry took off. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
Brilliant, so it went out to the Arctic on a voyage, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
it came back from the Arctic, it went out to the Arctic, it came back from the Arctic | 0:30:20 | 0:30:25 | |
and we're talking about the 1820s here, aren't we? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
-We are indeed. -And then it comes back into the museum. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Why does it have this dirty great ugly hole in the bottom now? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
Well, unfortunately it was opened in 1939 by | 0:30:36 | 0:30:41 | |
-some curious gentlemen together with the tin industry at the time. -Right. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
I suspect their idea was to prove that the canning industry started so well and did so well. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:53 | |
-But did they eat what was inside? -No, they didn't, but they subjected it to chemical examination. -Right. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
And as it turned out, the veal in 1939, over 100 years later, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
was perfectly fit for consumption. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
Well, isn't that brilliant? Because I think this early preservation of food is most interesting, really. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:12 | |
The fact that in 1811, when the British started doing it, but with | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
metal, with iron, effectively tinned iron, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
and then by excluding the air, you were able to prove, by taking it | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
to the Arctic and back and forth, that for over 100 years it would keep meat fresh, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:30 | |
meat and vegetables fresh, it's quite extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
And you know that it's A proper one because it's got this sealed little nipple | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
and that's where the air came out. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Absolutely riveting. Do you like veal yourself? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
-I don't, actually. -Ah. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
And I most certainly will not try the one from this can. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
when you come to valuing an object like this, it's difficult. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
Frankly, it's a question of the association of personality. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
If this had been to the Antarctic with Scott, that tin could be worth | 0:31:56 | 0:32:01 | |
several thousand pounds, £5,000 to £8,000. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
But as it is, even though it's earlier than Scott | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
and very interesting as far as the canning industry's concerned, and the preservation of food, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:13 | |
I would imagine that if that came on the market, it would probably realise a tad under £1,000. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:20 | |
But it's nevertheless a heck of an interesting tin. Thank you. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
We've got an unusual combination here. We've got | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
a lifesaving medal, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
an Iron Cross second class, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
so there's a nice story here, I'm sure. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Well, my husband was in the Merchant Navy and during the war, in 1944, he | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
dived off the liner Queen Elizabeth and rescued a German prisoner of war from drowning. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
And as a result he was awarded the medal and the German gave him his swastika, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
and the crew of the ship presented him with an inscribed cigarette case. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
And these are the letters from the Liverpool Shipwreck and Humane Society who presented the medal. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
So, what were the prisoners of war doing on the Elizabeth? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
Well, I'm pretty sure they were going to America | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
and then the liner would come back with troops on board. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
That's right, they did so. And also they took Italian prisoners of war to America, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:21 | |
because in the convoy I was in | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
there was the Empress of Canada, and she was full up with Italian prisoners of war. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
But they sunk her. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
I remember that, yes. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
So, now, you've got the silver medal for saving life from the Humane Society, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:38 | |
you've got the letter explaining it, and here we have a picture of him? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
-Yes. -Which is your husband? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
The waiter. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
He was mostly in the library or the swimming pool, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:55 | |
but sometimes he was the waiter. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Oh, right. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
And of course, he's not with you any more? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
-No. He died in 1976. -1976. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Yes. But what a lovely combination. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
Now, we've got to come to value. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
-Your humane medal on its own would be about £300, £350. -Oh! | 0:34:12 | 0:34:19 | |
But, of course, you see, with this lovely story and the Iron Cross, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
you know the whole thing, I mean you can sort of double that value. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
Because, if a collector had the opportunity to buy it, which he won't, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
it is worth twice that amount. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-It's lovely to know. -Thank you. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Well, this is a wonderfully romantic Russian scene. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
The moon is out and this troika is rushing over the snow there. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
-So this album is completely full of Russian royalty. -Yes. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:55 | |
Over 55 images. So did you buy them all together? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
No. I collected them over a period of time and I actually bought the album separately. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
I bought it because it was a Russian album | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
and thought it was appropriate to put the family back into something that they would have been in. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:13 | |
Yes, absolutely. So here we've got | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
the Empress, Empress... | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
Marie with her son, Tsar Nicholas II as a baby. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Tsar Nicholas II as a baby, now you hardly ever see photographs of Tsar Nicholas II as a baby. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
And also, it's hand-coloured. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
It's hand coloured, you're quite right. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
So tell me, what made you start collecting Russian royalty? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
When I was quite young, I watched a programme called Children Of Destiny | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
about the Tsar's children, and that's what made my interest in the Russian royal family. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
And when I was about 17, I saw an original photograph of Nicholas | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
and Alexandra at the time of their engagement, and I bought that, and from there the collection grew. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:55 | |
It's absolutely splendid. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
Now, here is one that particularly interests me. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
You explain who these people are. This one I think is Ella, isn't it? | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Yes, it's Grand Duchess Elizabeth with Grand Duke Serge. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
He was murdered in a dress rehearsal in 1905 of the First Revolution | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
and she was thrown down a mine shaft by the Bolsheviks in 1918 in the Second Revolution. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:17 | |
-Yes, yes. -And she became a saint. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
And she became a saint, became a saint of the Russian Orthodox Church. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
-And I believe the horrible story, you could hear her singing hymns at the bottom of this shaft. -Yes. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
She was meant to be a great beauty, in the whole of Europe everybody thought she was enchanting. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
The Kaiser wanted to marry her, Kaiser Wilhelm of the First World War | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
was in love with his first cousin Ella, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
but sadly they never married and she married Serge instead. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
That's a very romantic story. Look at this, this is absolutely splendid. This is Queen Victoria. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:48 | |
-Yes. -And Edward VII, Tsar Nicholas. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Empress Alexandra and Grand Duchess Olga. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
-And Grand Duchess Olga, now that is absolutely... -At Balmoral in 1896 when they came over for their visit, | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
and the Empress brought her child to see her grandmother, which was very important to her. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:07 | |
She was very close to Queen Victoria and she'd been brought up by the Queen, and so Alexandra looked on | 0:37:07 | 0:37:14 | |
Queen Victoria as her mother, and Queen Victoria looked on her as her child. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
It's a beautifully presented thing. You've got, what, over 55? | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
55 in this particular album, which I think is quite remarkable. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:29 | |
-I mean, how long has it taken you to collect this lot? -Probably about 20 years, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
and... | 0:37:34 | 0:37:35 | |
I probably couldn't start it again now, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
with the price they are today, but over 20 years, I would say. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
Well, you probably have as much idea about how much they're worth as I do, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
because you keep your eye on the market. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
But I'm going to hazard a guess. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:50 | |
I reckon that you've got an album there that's worth | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
upwards of £35,000, would you agree with that? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
Um, yes, slightly shocked. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
But happily will agree. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
I was going to say that you don't look surprised, but that's a bit better! | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
That's the sort of reaction we encourage. Thanks for bringing it in. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
OK, lovely. Thank you very much. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
We bought a new house and we had to remove a bay window and we found it | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
under there and I've had it ever since, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
but my husband just keeps saying it's a bit of old tat. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
-Bit of old tat! Have you worn this bit of old tat? -No. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
-You haven't? -No. -It's beautifully made, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
it wouldn't matter what it was made of, really, it's so superb. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
And have you thought about the imagery behind it at all? | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
I mean, is it something that you feel there's a message there? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Apart from an obvious one, that it sparkles like mad. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
Sparkles like mad! No, I just liked it and I just kept it, I just thought it was very pretty. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
It's a jolly good thing you did keep it. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
It's actually like a lot of jewellery, there's a subliminal message of love here. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
These are forget-me-not flowers. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
In the Victorian language of flowers, forget-me-not stands for true love. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
When you turn it into diamonds, it's forever true love, and they're true lovers' knots here. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
It's a highly sophisticated piece of setting | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
and I think it's safe to tell you now that this is gem setting. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
These are indeed real stones, they are diamonds. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
-Oh! -I know! | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
So much for my tat! | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
So much for your tat, and it's going to be awkward when you go back home, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
because you'll have to tell him all of this! | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
And this is a little jewel from 1900, which is probably the most perfect time for craftsmanship in jewellery. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:39 | |
It's very minutely observed. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
The design rules the composition, not the stones. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
They're secured in what we call mille grain settings, there are tiny little pellets running round these | 0:39:43 | 0:39:49 | |
channels of metal, which is an indication | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
that what we have before us now is a piece of the highest possible quality gem setting from 1900. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:59 | |
-Wow! -Yeah. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
-Wow! -Wow. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
And it gets better and better because, when we turn it over, we can see that | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
there's a bit of engineering in the form of a hinge that tells us that this was almost certainly strung | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
onto some pearls to be worn high at the neck of an Edwardian lady. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
And we call it a "collier de chien", a dog's collar | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
ornament, in diamonds, and a breathtakingly poetic one it is too. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
It may well be made by a firm such as Cartier or Boucheron. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-Oh, my goodness. -Or La Cloche. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
Well, it's a bombshell, isn't it? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
It's a bombshell to me. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
I'm speechless. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Good, good! And is it going to be a test of true love when you go back | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
and tell him that I told you that it might be worth... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
..£8,000 or £9,000? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
You're Palace Manager of the Banqueting House | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
-and one of your myriad tasks is to look after this intriguing object which is downstairs in the hall. -Yes. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:05 | |
Now, I can see that it represents the Banqueting Hall from the outside, but | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
in a certain way at a certain time, by the looks of it. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Yes, it's the proposed contingency plan for the coronation of Edward VIII and Mrs Simpson. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:19 | |
-The coronation that never took place. -Exactly. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
We found it in a box in the Royal United Services Institute, which is next door to us, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:27 | |
when we were refurbishing in 1991 and we rescued it, framed it, because it's an intriguing object | 0:41:27 | 0:41:34 | |
because it's part of the constitutional history of England. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
Now, I take it, therefore, that because she was a twice divorced American, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:44 | |
they didn't like the idea - "they" being the powers that be - | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
of having the coronation over at the abbey. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
It was to be in this secular building. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Yes, I guess that's why. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
So this was done by the party planners to the royal family at the time. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
And I can see it's "Hampton and Sons". | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
Yes, and November 1936. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
So 1936 being just before, as it were, news breaks that it's not going to happen. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:13 | |
-Yes, yes. -So it gives you an idea of just what a constitutional crisis it represented. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
How on so many levels, so much was being prepared | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
-here at the Hall and elsewhere. -Yes. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:22 | |
-That wasn't to happen. -No, that's it. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Have you considered a value for this object? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
Never, because it was... | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
I suppose because it was in a box and it was all folded up and... No, we haven't. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:36 | |
Well, I think it's very intriguing and one knows quite a lot about the | 0:42:36 | 0:42:41 | |
emotive commercial nature of things to do with Edward and Mrs Simpson. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
-Oh, right. -Well, in 1997 there was a huge sale of all the objects | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
that were associated with them and I remember being utterly amazed, as I think many other people were, when | 0:42:50 | 0:42:56 | |
-just a single piece of wedding cake associated with their marriage made just under £18,000. -Oh, my God! | 0:42:56 | 0:43:04 | |
And it seems to be the combination of the constitutional crisis, which was big, the romantic association of the | 0:43:04 | 0:43:11 | |
couple, and just general nostalgia for that period. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
It seems to have done it for a big group of rich people, all of whom | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
beat it out to try and buy anything to do with the event. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
But as the Banqueting House Manager, a piece of cake as old as that would not be of any value to me at all. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:27 | |
Well, I couldn't agree more. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
On the basis of that, I would confidently value this drawing | 0:43:29 | 0:43:35 | |
-at over £20,000. -What?! Oh, my God! | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
You'd prefer that piece of cake now, wouldn't you? | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Yeah... No, but it's amazing. Wow. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
Hovering above us throughout the Roadshow | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
has been something that makes everything on the floor level seem fairly insignificant, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
although we have seen some fabulous pieces today. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
The ceiling here at the Banqueting House was painted by Paul Rubens to glorify the Stuart dynasty. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:06 | |
It took him four years to complete and he was paid £3,000 and a large lump of gold. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:13 | |
Well, masterpieces don't come cheap. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
More treasures very soon, but for now, from Whitehall in London, goodbye. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:20 |