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We've packed our bucket and spade this week for one of our great British seaside resorts. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Welcome to the Roadshow from Bridlington. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Apart from our desire to explore all corners of the country, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
we've been drawn to this part of the Yorkshire coast for a special reason. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Each week we hear our experts wax lyrical about beautiful objects | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
brought along to the show, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
so today, alongside the normal Roadshow, we're asking our experts | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
to choose which era they believe produced the finest, most beautifully crafted objects - | 0:01:06 | 0:01:12 | |
when was the ultimate age of elegance? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
So where could we stage such a show? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
How about a highly fashionable resort of the Edwardian era? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
The Bridlington Spa and Gardens was a clever idea, recognising | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
that rain was as likely as sunshine during a typical British summer. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
It combined exterior and interior space for 5,000 people, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
right on the edge of the beach. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
From the very start, the riff-raff were strictly excluded - | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
people deemed as objectionable were banned from admission. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
So all came to the spa in the best and most fashionable outfits. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Tragically, two fires ravaged the original buildings in the early 20th century | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
and in the 1930s a new centre was erected on the site, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
the Spa Royal Hall, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and the resort saw something of a revival in the Art Deco era. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
It was a great venue in the days of the tea dance. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
One band leader described it as certainly the finest dance and concert hall on the coast. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
It's taken some knocks since then, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
so for the last two years it's been closed for a complete face-lift. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
And here she is today, looking a million dollars. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
What a perfect backdrop for this special edition of the Roadshow, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
celebrating the very best of elegant design. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Let's see what beautiful lines catch our experts' eyes, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
as they start uncovering treasures brought along by our visitors. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
This is a beautiful Royal Worcester figure. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
She's known as the Bather Surprised | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
but I'm always puzzled at the title. She doesn't look surprised at all! | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
I think she's been expecting it to happen all along! | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
She's a gorgeous girl, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
modelled by Sir Thomas Brock who was a great Victorian modeller. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
He actually designed the great central Queen Victoria Monument | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
outside Buckingham Palace, so he was an important chap. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
-He made this model for Royal Worcester. -Right. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
-The colours are very 1920s. -Right. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Earlier on they were stained ivory, darker in colour, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
-but she's a very boisterous modern girl of the time. -Yes, yes. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
And she's done in three different sizes. A large one, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
this is the medium size, and a little baby. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
But I think she's gorgeous. How did you come by it? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
It belonged to my grandma and I inherited it when she passed away. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
My grandparents were travellers with the fairground | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and I always remember that she said that it travelled in the wagon with them. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:58 | |
They used to have to lay it on the bed when they moved from fairground to fairground, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
-and wrapped it in bedding to keep it safe. -She took it to fairs with her? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Yes, because she loved it so much. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-Golly. -But always as a child I used to see it in her bedroom | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
and admired it and always hoped it would be mine one day, which it was. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Because fairground people love porcelain. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
-They love especially Royal Worcester. -Yes. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-Did they use to have any fruit plates? -Yes. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
I've got two fruit plates on my wall as well. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
-They loved fruit plates. -They're gorgeous. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
They came to the Worcester factory when I was there and asked me to let them have pieces from the museum. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:35 | |
"Well, I'll buy that, Governor. I'll give you any money you like." Of course I couldn't sell them. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
She always had some lovely pieces did my grandma. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
-She seemed to have a good taste for nice things. -Wonderful. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
Wonderful to think this travelled round the country with the fair. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
Especially here at Bridlington of course | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-with all the marvellous fairground things here. -Yes. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-Fascinating life, really. -It is lovely. -Going to all these places. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
I'm very proud of my, you know, family history. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
I'm sure, quite right to be, too. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
But she's a beautiful girl. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
She has one little bit of damage, I see. The thumb has come off. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
Yeah, that's been there as long as I've known, right from a child. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-Don't worry too much about that. -All right. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
It's not too noticeable. But she's a gorgeous girl. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
I suppose in this condition one would expect for this size of figure | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
-to be something like about £1,250. -Right. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
-So she's jolly, jolly nice. -She is. -So look after her. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-Oh, I do. I do. -But she's beautiful. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
She is lovely. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
Do you know, this is the most remarkable collection, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
this double album here of cricketers, footballers. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
They're all little caricatures and they're all signed. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-Where did they come from? -My father started collecting and did all the drawings when he was about 20. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
And he sent off for the signatures? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Yes, he would send a letter and then hopefully get a reply with an autograph. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
I think it's quite amazing. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Here we've got Jack Buchanan and Fred Astaire, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-but they're both signed photographs, aren't they? -Oh, yes. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Which is rather nice. I don't know how he managed to get hold of those. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
-If we go further on into the albums, we get things like Amy Johnson. -Yes. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
-And of course... -Of course. -She's a Bridlingtonian, isn't she? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
Hull and then... Yes, she's from Hull, yes. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
-Yes, and the first person to fly to Australia. -Yes, that's right. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
First woman to fly to Australia, first person to fly to Australia single-handed. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
And here is a picture of her craft. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Desert Cloud. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
And we go on even further. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
Just finally here, this one caught my eye, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
which is of "Yours sincerely John Tenniel." | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
-He was the man who... -Oh, the illustrator? -The Alice man. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
He did all those. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
There is a nice photograph of him. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
So he must have got him very early. I mean, I don't think he... | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
He was basically a 19th century figure, wasn't he? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
-Well, he probably had some given by some other people. -Do you reckon? -I don't remember. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
-Swapsies or something like that? -Possibly something of the sort. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
So, it's a ridiculous thing to say, but did your father, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
did your father-in-law, actually love this collection? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Oh, yes, he adored it! | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
We were bombed out during the war and we all survived, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
but I think my father would grab | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
the autograph books before wife and children! | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
You've got hundreds and hundreds of these. 200, 250... I mean, just by looking through | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
and having enthusiasm for some and possibly not so much for others, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
but they're all remarkable. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
It is remarkable to get a collection together like this, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
so comprehensive, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
-and such fun to look at. -Yes. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
I would put a price of about £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
There you are. That's another unexploded bomb to take home! | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
-Thanks for bringing them in. -Thank you. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
CROWDS DROWN SPEECH | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
As you saw at the top of the programme, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
there's a good reason why we chose the Spa Bridlington for our venue, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
with its echoes of Art-Deco elegance, it's the perfect place | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
to talk to some of our experts about which era they would choose as the ultimate age of elegance. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
Hilary Kay, you've got opening honours today. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
The kind of stuff you've brought is the stuff that reminds me of my parents' era. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
OK. Did you keep it? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
Should I have done? | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
Well, wait and see. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
I think what I have to say | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
is that the era that I've chosen, the 1950s, I've chosen because | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
it's so full of optimism, it's so full of brand-new stuff. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
After the war almost anything goes, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
and the few things we've got here | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
are a reflection of that. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
I suppose I also know 1950s things from my parents and from my grandparents, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
and it strikes a chord in me. There's a sort of resonance there. | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
And looking at these things, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
they're not all icons but some of them certainly are. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Let's look. This is so distinctive a fabric, these kind of patterns. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
This is perhaps the most influential piece of fabric design | 0:09:08 | 0:09:13 | |
that you and I will see. It's called Calyx. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
It's designed by Lucienne Day. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
It was described as, "If you can't afford | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
"a piece of abstract art, at least you can have them on your curtains." | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
And that's what it is. Inspired by Calder and by Miro, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
this was designed for the zenith of design of the period, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
-ie the Festival Of Britain. -When you look at this, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
can this claim to be part of the British ultimate age of elegance? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:42 | |
-Because Scandinavia had a big influence. -You're absolutely right. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
I think that the whole use of Scandinavian light materials, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:51 | |
new fabrics, new types of manufacture, created a whole different look. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:57 | |
I think that if one looks at this light and airy furniture, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
the stick-like legs, the uses of different woods, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
different shapes, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
the sparseness of the decoration, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
it speaks volumes to me. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
And the fact that we are now all returning to this look | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
is a testament of its longevity and its influence. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
But not to the fashions of course, we're not returning to the fashions particularly. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
They really were remarkable back then in the '50s. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
They were. Again if one goes back to that sort of rebellion against all those restrictions of war time | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
and with somebody like Dior, for instance, when he created the New Look, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
suddenly in came the hour-glass figure, femininity, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
luxury, wastefulness. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
All these things that were absolutely forbidden for the previous five, ten years. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
And it also meant subliminally that women were to be looked at in a different way. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:58 | |
At the end of the war, the soldiers came back, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
the girls had to give up their jobs to give jobs for soldiers. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
They became housewives. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
What could be more applicable to this new housewife generation | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
than the Dior dresses? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
-This is a very sort of classic boxing training pose. -Yes. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-Who is he? -That is my grandfather who was born Cyril Hills | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
out of Manchester, who boxed under the name of Darkie Ellis, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
became a Bridlington man and married a Bridlington lady. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
OK, I'm going to ask the obvious question. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
What happened to the genes? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
Lightened along the years, I think. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
I would never have believed he was your grandfather. Did you know him? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Unfortunately not. I wish I had. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
-His stories would have been wonderful. -Yes. What about your grandmother? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
My grandmother passed away last year at the age of 92. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
So you had lots from her? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
Yes, lots. She was quite reticent about the past. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
It was, "What's in the past is in the past. It doesn't matter." | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-Were there secrets? -There possibly are. That's for me to find out as I go along, I think. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
-Why did he change his name? -No idea, total mystery to us. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
I'm told that his mother and his sisters actually had a business on Bridlington Beach | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
as fortune tellers and made a very comfortable living. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
So he was a sort of showman? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
Definitely. He actually, I believe, boxed in the fairground boxing booths as well. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
Right, so we're going into a very sort of basic level of boxing at that point. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
This is dated 1933. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
He's there with... Is that his manager? | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
I don't think it's his manager. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-I think it's probably one of his trainers. -Right. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
He's a stylish, elegant man. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
-I think he definitely was for the era that he came from. -Yes. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
They look a classic lot, don't they? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
-They definitely are! -Real sort of heavies of that sort of sport. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
-There he is. -That's right. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Now let's think about his name. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
I mean, today nobody would call themselves that. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
And yet he was called Cyril, but he chose to be called Darkie. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
I suppose that was accepting his popular name. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
He must have chosen to call himself that, so I imagine that was his nickname anyway. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
I would imagine so. If you speak to people around Bridlington | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
-who can remember that era, they always knew Darkie Ellis. -Yeah. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-So we've got here a lovely scrapbook. -That's right. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
-These are his bouts, aren't they? -They are his bouts. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
"England's best middleweights, Darkie Ellis and Donald Keys." | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
What was his status in this sport? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Was he just a local boxer? Did he make good? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
I think he made quite good. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
At one time he was classed middleweight champion of England, of Northern England... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
-Yes, it was regional at that point. -That's right, it was regional. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
Now that's interesting. Is that your grandmother? | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
That is my grandmother, yes. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
They're a stylish couple. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
It's like gangster's moll. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
-Exactly! -The Untouchables sort of era. -It's straight out of Al Capone. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
It is, it's fantastic. I love it. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
My grandmother went on to become a very well known local landlady | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
in Bridlington and she ran the Crown Hotel in Bridlington | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
for a very long time later on in life. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Yeah. I think it's a great story. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
-We haven't talked about the poster. What a great image. -It's fantastic. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
Now what we're looking at here is an international. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Belgium versus England, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Four Belgian boxers, four British boxers, including... | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
There he is. And he's obviously the great hero of the time. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
He's the most important person, the feature on the poster. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
It brings to life not just him, but that whole sort of sense | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
of what boxing was as a popular sport. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
This is quite a valuable item. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
One, it's a sporting poster. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Move yourself away from your family connections. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
It's a great image, it's also about black history. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Now black history is something that | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
we are becoming increasingly, quite rightly, aware of. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
It's so much a part of our culture in Britain. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
It doesn't start in 1948-49, it goes back much longer. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
And images like this underline the fact that | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
we have a very, very strong black cultural history going back to the 18th century. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
Therefore today that would be a very desirable object | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
because it focuses very much on that. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
There he is, as I say, no colour differentiation. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
He's one of a team fighting for England against Belgium. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
You've got a poster here which is worth several hundred pounds. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
But that's in a sense incidental. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
You need to know that. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
What you've got to do, and it's not for me to tell you, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
but it's such a fantastic story, you've got to find out more! | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
lots and lots of questions, and to go back to the beginning, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
-what happened to the genes? -Exactly, Pandora's box I always associate... -Well, it may be tricky, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
-but you've got to open it. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Now, I've travelled all over Yorkshire | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
and I have yet to come across a Yorkshire tea plantation. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
so I can't fathom out how come you've got Yorkshire Tea. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
But one thing's for certain, you like your teapots big! | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
I mean, this is the biggest county in England... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Hang on, hang on, Eric. Yours may be big, but mine is bigger. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
-Oh ho! -What do you make of that? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
-Hey, I have to concede defeat that is a whopper. -It is. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
It is a whopper but unfortunately my spout is not quite as big as yours. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
You have upstaged me here. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-But do you realise? Look at your arm, Eric. -I'm doing it! | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
You've gone into teapot mode. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Short and stout. Yes, exactly. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
But the problem with our teapot is | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
that somebody did obviously try to pour tea out of this. Was it you? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-No. -You haven't tried pouring out of this? | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Because the burden of tea in there would be ridiculous. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
And so our handle, I'm afraid, has taken a turn for the worse. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
Was yours seriously for tea? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
This? This is the sort of thing they'd use for Sunday schools | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
because this is a late Victorian one. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I just love it because it's like brand-new. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
But that started off life definitely east of Whitby, didn't it? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Yes, this is from Japan, around the year 1900. Yours is...? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Well, this is maybe 1890-1900. So they're of a similar vintage. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:25 | |
Both enamelled. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Beautifully done. Yours obviously in the right style. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
And mine... Well, what's yours worth? Because does size matter? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
I'm afraid it does, Eric. Ha-ha! | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
This is spectacular. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
Beautiful enamelling, damaged though it may be, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-it's probably worth somewhere in the region of £2,000. -Gosh! | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
Well, at this end, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
-we're nearer £200. -Right. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
But given the choice, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I'd rather take this one home with me. No disrespect over there. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
-This is a working teapot. -It is. -Yes. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
And has that done a few charities? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-It has, it has indeed. -And it's been in the family? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Yes, many years. It belonged to my great aunt | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
who had three of these giant teapots which she used. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
So, as they say in this part of the world, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
"You can sup some stuff out of that." | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
There's a good few cups in that. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
-50 cups. -Ooh! -50 cups. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
-Only in Yorkshire. -SHE LAUGHS | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
Of course, I'm just looking at his bird. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
But isn't he magnificent, that bird? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-It's a lovely bird. -Is it a falcon? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
It's a falcon and I've always been told it's a peregrine falcon. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-Peregrine falcons have royal connotations. -Yes, they're royal birds. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
That's very interesting | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-They've got wonderful mottled plumage on their underbellies. -Yes. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
-They have longer wings, longer than a hawk anyway. -That's right. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
And actually looking back from his wonderful plumage, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
what about his owner's? | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Well... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
This is one of my forebears. It's my father's family. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:06 | |
We don't know an awful lot about him but it's always been in the family | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
and probably most of the time in Yorkshire. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
What I like is this wonderful silk doublet that he's wearing | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
with slashed silk revealing this lovely colour underneath. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
And I suppose these might be pearls or some kind of braiding, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
or maybe silver. Certainly he's got rather a smart belt | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
with gold fittings and obviously a gold dagger handle there. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
All this means that he's a man of rank, I think. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, this is what's interesting. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
The peregrine falcon and the royal connection, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
so the story in our family is that he was actually a falconer to the king, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
the king being James I. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
-Yes. -Now there's no documentary evidence for that as far as I know, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
but that's the story that's come down to us. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
And then round his tunic here you've got this silken rope, | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
it seems to be silk. Then I think that's a lure, isn't it? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
I suppose it could be. Which goes round like that. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Yes, swing it around his head to attract the bird's attention, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
after he's loosed it, to get it back again. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
So all the detail is there. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
Whoever's painted this | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
-has understood the falconry side of things very well, hasn't he? -Yes. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
It's painted in oils on this very large panel, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
which is actually several pieces of wood joined together, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
so I think from the costume that it's about 1620. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
-Right. -Which is incidentally about 15 years after Guy Fawkes. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
-Yes. -Just to place it, you know, in the reign of James I. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
In terms of authorship, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:39 | |
we're beginning to be able to put names to pictures | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
of this vintage rather more accurately than we had been able to. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
And in this case, it's just possible... | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
There was an artist called John Souch | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
working in Chester at around this time, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
who covered much of the north of England. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
It's possible that it's got his dabs on it, as it were. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Um, you asked me about condition. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-SHE LAUGHS Not good. -It's not brilliant, no. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
-I think there's a lot of original paint under here. -Yes. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
This area, which is water-damaged, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
-is as much in the varnish as it is in the paint. -Right. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
-Which is good news. -Yes. -I think there's some original paint under there. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
You don't really know until you start stripping it back. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
There is quite a lot of work to do to put it right, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
-to get it looking absolutely spiffing. -Yeah. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
But maybe £2,000 or £3,000 worth of work, as much as that. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
But then you've got to look at what value the painting is. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-Falconry's very popular in the Middle East, from whence it came of course. -Yes. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
Any picture with a falcon in, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
the Arab market is going to get very excited about. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-I'd be very surprised if it didn't make £20,000 or £30,000. -Right, yes. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
-Insure it for 30,000. -Right. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
OK, yes. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-I know, it's a responsibility, isn't it? -It is, rather. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
But that's stewardship, isn't it? | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
That's the thing about handing on family things, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
-you need to look after them. -I think that's exactly right. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
I'm having a nanny moment. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
-Are you having a nanny moment? -Oh, very much so, yes. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Now, look. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
We've got five prams here. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-I happen to know that this isn't the lot. -No, unfortunately. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Now I think... Am I allowed to call you a bit of a prammy? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
You can call me a prammy. I'm proud to be a prammy. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-How many have you got at home? -Another ten at home | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and another one on the way! | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
And where are they all? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
We live in a large house so they've taken over the front living room | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
and in the hallway and upstairs. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
They live indoors, the perfect climate for a pram. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Absolutely. And do they get an outing ever? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
They get an outing most days unless it's raining. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
-We don't do rain in prams. -No, quite. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
But looking around... | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
That's a pram dating from the latter part of the 19th century, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
slightly sort of Mary Poppins-esque. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
What I love about it | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
is this fabulous barley twist brass handle at the front there. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
Huge wheels and the forerunner of everything else we see here today. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
So the prams that we're looking at around and about here | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
are mostly 1950s and '60s. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Yes, yeah. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
You've concentrated on that particular period, haven't you? Why? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:26 | |
I think it's deep bodies and big wheels for me. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
I just love the shape of the pram. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I just think they're absolute beauties of craftsmanship. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
In the 1950s, there were certain companies | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
which were top of the range, weren't there? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
-Yes. -And I would have thought... Was LBC one of them? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
-LBC was one of them, Marmet. -This being a Marmet. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Particularly in the Queen. The Queen is the actual model name. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
-Right. -And they followed with a Lady and a Marmet Princess. -Oh, right. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
And so it goes on and on. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
What I think is very telling is that in fact it was often a make of pram | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
that sold the job to the nanny. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
Oh, yes, that's very true. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
I think a house, a mum, would advertise saying, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
"Nanny required. We have a Marmet pram." | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Or a London Baby Coach, whatever. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
That usually filled the vacancy. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I was trying earlier to work out what the collective name | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
for a group of prams is. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
I've come up with the name a push of prams. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-Oh, very good! -It's definitely a push of prams. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
-Yes. -And as far as value's concerned. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
What do you put on something? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
A classic pram from the 1960s in really tip-top, restored condition? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
Well, I think like any collector it depends on the make and model. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
If it's a pram that you want, you will pay like any collector would. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
The most I paid for my prams was the Queen. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
She was the model I always wanted and I absolutely adore her. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
She'll never be sold. To me she's priceless and I paid £700 for her. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
-And in this...? -In restored condition. -Very good. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
If she wasn't in that condition, especially if the wheels need rechroming, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
I would only maybe pay £250, £350. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Well, I hope you've got lots of grandchildren to put in these. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
Hopefully in a couple of years. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
-Daughter's just wed but hopefully yes. -She's working on it. -Yes. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-Fantastic. Thank you for bringing in your push of prams. -Thank you. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
I've interrupted your busy day because I'm sure you have some strong views | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
on the ultimate age of elegance. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
-What would you choose? -Well, mine would be the days of Charles II. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
Wonderful, wonderful flamboyant ways and wigs and hats with plumes. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
All gone. But of course the days before it, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
in the City of Worcester where I come from, were very different. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Before Charles II came to the throne we had Oliver Cromwell | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
and pots like this, you know, with poems on, and a chamber pot | 0:25:54 | 0:26:00 | |
-to do your necessary. -Do your business. -Yes. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
And the poem says, "Fast and pray and pity the poor. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:10 | |
"Amend thy life and sin no more." | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
So you had to be pious even while you were answering a call of nature! | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
But the only fun in life was sort of tipping it out of the window on top of a Roundhead's head! | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
And then you get sent to prison. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
And of course it all changed so dramatically with Charles II. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Oh, yes. Charles II came back and the Restoration. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
Everything is peacockish and wonderful, exciting. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-And you get slipware like this made. I mean this is... -Seen this before! | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
Well, this is a copy, a copy of the original Ozzie the owl. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
But you drink out of this and it's all full of fun. Gorgeous. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
And ornamentation, of course, and design and beauty. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
But life was like that. It grew exciting and wonderful. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
What do you think you'd have been doing? | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
Well, I would have been a Cavalier. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
I hope, you know, because I helped Charles II escape | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
after the Battle of Worcester... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
-Oh, you did, did you? -Oh, I did. -Right, OK! | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
So I would have become a Cavalier. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
This little piece is just a fragment of a pot | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
that I found in a well in Worcester. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Now that's me, dressed up in a Cavalier's costume. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
-That's how I would have looked. -So you'd have liked the clothes? | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
Oh, I would have loved it, with a waistcoat and a wig | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and a plumed hat and everything. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
You know, carrying a cane as you walk around the town | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
and lovely gaiters and things. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I can just picture myself dressed like that. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
BAROQUE MUSIC PLAYS | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
It's tiny, it's a tig as big as a thimble. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
And is it yours? | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
It's my wife's actually. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
It is ridiculously small for a tig. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
You know that a tig, or a loving cup as it's also known... | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
-I thought it were a loving cup. -It is. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
The idea is you pass it down the bench. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Three handles, so one handle to the next neighbour. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
They then turn it to the next and so it rotates as it goes down the line. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
-But that is ridiculously small for a tig, so it's a miniature. -Yeah. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
And do you know who it's by? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Well, I think it's by Mackintosh, in't it? Is it Moorcroft Mackintosh? | 0:28:30 | 0:28:36 | |
-Macintyre. -Macintyre, is it? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
Macintyre. It says Macintyre there. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
William Moorcroft was famously employed by them, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
that's where he made his name | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
before going on to set up his own Moorcroft factory. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Pretty little thing. Decorated with what? Cyclamen? I'm not a botanist. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
Beautiful thing, but it is very, very small. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
The real article... | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
-Has it got to be bigger? -I'm afraid, the real article... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
A real tig should be this size. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
And if it were this size it would be worth getting on for £1,500. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:10 | |
So we go from £1,500 down to... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
..£1,500. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Mmm... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
That's £1,500? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Because they say smaller the better. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:29:25 | 0:29:26 | |
So that's £1,500? | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
It's small and exquisitely formed. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
Well, you've brought along today this most astonishing sword. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
Now it's made by Wilkinson and I happen to know quite a lot about it. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
But I'd like to hear the story from you. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
I acquired this in the late 1960s, about 1968. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
I'm a collector of edge weapons, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and a dealer contact in Southend-on-Sea had this. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
I was quite astonished to be given the chance to obtain it, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
because I had bought a small German knife | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
which he was fascinated with and we did a straight swap. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
I had a funny feeling I'd got the best of the deal. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
I just knew that at the time because I had a bit of information about the sword. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
What they told me was this was the pattern piece | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
that had been used as a model for the swords made for the personal bodyguard | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
of Haile Selassie, Emperor of Ethiopia, in about 1928-1929. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
It's been in Wilkinson Sword's pattern room all that time. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
Now at about that time, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Wilkinson went into private ownership | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
and they cleared out a lot of their old stock. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
I was well delighted to get hold of it. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
I thought whatever the story, this has got to be a piece worth having. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
That's an astonishing story of how you actually obtained it. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
Haile Selassie of course, the Lion Of Judah, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
came to the throne I think in about 1930. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
He was Regent until about that time. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
These swords were made by Wilkinson, as you say, for his personal bodyguard. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:06 | |
Now, the interesting thing about this is | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
that Wilkinson's pattern piece, which this is, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
was the only one that was made with a hilt and a cross piece. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:20 | |
All the others that were sent across to Ethiopia | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
were sent without furnishings, as it's called. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
They were sent naked, if you like. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:27 | |
There weren't very many others manufactured. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
There were 20 manufactured for Haile Selassie's bodyguard. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Of course he was deposed in...what? 1973, 1974, something like that. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
So we don't know what's happened to the others. They may not exist any longer, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
they may be sitting rusting in some Ethiopian shed somewhere. Who knows? | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
So this could be unique. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
It's the most beautifully-made sword, typically by Wilkinsons, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
who made lots and lots of decorative and commemorative swords. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
This has a wavy blade, this beautiful wavy blade, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:04 | |
which is made of steel, of course. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
And it has this gorgeous, gorgeous gold and red flame effect | 0:32:06 | 0:32:11 | |
running right the way down the blade. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
But the unique thing about this of course is the pattern. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It's the pattern from which the others were judged. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
So there is not another one of these | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
and that's what makes it interesting to me. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
So in the late '60s you swapped this for a knife. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-Yes. -Worth £30? -£14 was the value of the knife. -£14! OK. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:35 | |
I think today this sword is so unique, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
it's worth between £2,000 and £2,500. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
Not a bad investment. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
I'm surprised. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:47 | |
My father was a vicar in Slaithwaite in Yorkshire | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
and then it was in the vicarage | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
and then it was moved to Cleckheaton. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
I really remember it from the Cleckheaton vicarage. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
I would be about nine years old then. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
I don't know where it came from, only that it was actually a gift from somebody to my father | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
and it remained in the hallway in the vicarage as a centrepiece. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:15 | |
My father absolutely adored it | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and, when he retired, he moved into a dormer bungalow | 0:33:18 | 0:33:24 | |
and he even had it put on the staircase in the dormer bungalow | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
going up the stairs so that he could see it every day. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
-So he loved the picture. -Absolutely adored it. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
And did he do any research on the painting at all? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
I don't think he did. I've done more of the research. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I've tried to find things out but come to a dead end every time. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
-Well, I can help you there. -Ah, wonderful, fabulous. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
The picture is a copy after a Dutch artist who was working in Rome | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
-in 1620, an artist called Gerrit van Honthorst. -Oh. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
And it is The Nativity. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
This is a 19th century copy of that picture. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
The real giveaway with this painting | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
is the 19th century Florentine frame. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
-Right. -We call them sort of Palazzo Pitti frames. -Right. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
They're hand-carved Florentine frames of the 19th century | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
and students and artists would copy the great masters | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
that were hanging in the Uffizi and the Pitti Palazzo. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
In 1993, there was a car bomb that went off just outside the Uffizi | 0:34:20 | 0:34:27 | |
and unfortunately The Nativity by Honthorst was destroyed. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
Two other major pictures by Manfredi were destroyed | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
and also 30 great masters were damaged. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
So the original painting, a totally priceless painting, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
is no longer with us. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
And sadly also on that particular day | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
when these great old masters were destroyed, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
26 people were wounded and six people died. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
There are only eight copies listed, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
-but undoubtedly there's more around the world. -Yes. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
The original painting that was destroyed | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
was three times the size of your picture. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Good gracious me! I thought mine was...big enough! | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
And of course this oil on canvas, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Honthorst would have been really influenced by Caravaggio, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
the great master of light. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:16 | |
This was probably painted by... The original was painted by candlelight. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
You get a real sort of radiant light coming from baby Jesus, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
right through all the figures, right to the top. A kind of ray of hope. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
The light of the world. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
So in terms of value... | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
The original oil painting by Honthorst, literally priceless, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
of course is no longer with us. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
But a copy, a 19th century copy after the picture | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
is worth approximately £4,000 to £6,000. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Very good. Lovely. Thank you very much indeed. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
-So it's not a set of golf clubs, then? -No. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
It's something the ladies aren't allowed to see, I'm afraid. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
OK, hide your eyes, girls. Hide your eyes. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
Oh! It's very naughty! | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Have you seen one of these before? | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Can you see what it is yet? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
It's a lady on a potty. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
-It's more than that, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Because it's a lady with a purpose. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Now what does she do? Fly up this way? There we go. Whee! | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
She does all sorts of things and on her bottom here she's got a blade | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
and what she is, actually, is a cigar cutter. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
A novelty cigar cutter. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
OK, so how come you have got it? | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
Because it's not a kind of girlie thing to have, is it, really? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
It's been passed down through the family. My great-great-grandad. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
That's about all I know about it. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
But I do know that the ladies in the family were never allowed to see it. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
It was always on his watch chain in his waistcoat pocket. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
And when asked, "No, you can't look at it." | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-It was his secret. -His secret. -His secret passion! | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Then when my mother inherited it, I was allowed to look at it. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
And told, you know, "It's the naughty lady." | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
SHE GIGGLES | 0:37:08 | 0:37:09 | |
I think she's great. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Just the sort of thing that a grandfather should have | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
on the end of a watch chain, actually. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
Something naughty and rather rascally. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
She's dating from around 1900, 1910. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Made of brass. And in fact I would have said she's... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Because she's such a cheeky little thing, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
I think she's going to have a reasonable value. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
I'd put her at about... | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Oh, £100, £120. I think she's terrific. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
Yes, I think she's gorgeous. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
In this splendid Art Deco building, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:43 | |
we're asking some of our experts to choose their ultimate age of elegance. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
Eric Knowles, with the era you've chosen you should feel at home. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
I do. I mean this is Bridlington's Art-Deco temple. It really is. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
Yes, I mean, those inter-war years really do it for me | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
because it was the age of Thoroughly Modern Millie, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
when it was stylish to raise your skirts and bob your hair. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
People just wanted to have a party. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
They'd had the horrors of the First World War | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
and there's this new generation, this new emancipated woman, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
and they were able to get out and follow their heroes and heroines on the silver screen. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
Because Hollywood introduced glamour to the working classes in general. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
I mean, this figure is... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
This is Josef Lorenzl. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
I affectionately always refer to him as Legs Lorenzl. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
Here's this woman. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
I mean, she is the epitome of perfect health and form. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Again this was an age where people took, you know, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
a great interest in their own health. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
Certainly the lines of this are beautiful. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
As indeed this cocktail shaker. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
Well, can I do it? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
You know, I've always fancied working at The Savoy behind the bar. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
-You're wasted, Eric! -I love a good Manhattan. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
I know the perfect place in Manhattan that does it. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
Again, you look at something like that, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
we're moving through this Art Deco period into Modernism. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:09 | |
Again, just to show you, I mean that could have come off a motor vehicle. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
Such a strange-looking thing. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
When it is a cocktail shaker, of course. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
After the First World War, we're talking about the 1920s, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
and people were coming out of such a desperately tragic time, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
and drabness and sadness. They wanted glamour and exoticism. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
They did. I mean the women, they got Rudolph Valentino. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
So that was the exotic side of it. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
When it comes to speed and streamline, | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
everybody is moving forward. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Think of Brooklands and Bugattis and Bentleys. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
And, "Anyone for tennis?" | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
People became, you know, far more, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
for want of a better word, worldly. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
As far as elegance goes... Bugattis and that kind of thing, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
that was the ultimate elegance, but for the women it was the clothing. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Especially the sort of shimmy dresses. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Now bear in mind in their mothers' day, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Wow! all of a sudden legs are on the scene. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
And those dresses, they were designed to move | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
because people would go out dancing in a way that they'd never done before. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
The dresses, you know, they were very, very streamlined. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
I mean, I look sometimes at the dresses and I see skyscrapers. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
JAZZ MUSIC PLAYS | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
This is a work table, but there's a little story behind this. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
There is, yes. It's always ever been known as Granny's sewing table. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
It was left to me by my granny about 15 years ago. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
I can remember it from childhood, being in her bedroom | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
with all her needles and threads and buttons. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
She never threw anything away, so she cut buttons off things and kept them in tins. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
There was always a piece of thread that would nearly match. If not quite perfectly, it would do. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
I always admired it and always played with it. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
When she died it was left to me. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
I think if it had been a work table it might have had a bag underneath | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
but I can't ever remember there being a bag. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
This is how it's always been including the sort of bowed top. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
-Right, yes, warts and all. -Warts and all. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
What this is, actually, it's a Regency piece of furniture | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
and the word is rosewood. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
When rosewood was first introduced it was known as princeswood. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Because we had kingwood, or the French had kingwood, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
they found this wood and it was known as princeswood. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
So it's a highly sophisticated piece of furniture. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
-Really? -To me it's just beautifully drawn. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
It's made of rosewood veneer and satinwood. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
We have the top, which is crossbanded in satinwood, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
and down the legs it's simulated in bamboo in this lovely yellow colour | 0:42:05 | 0:42:13 | |
which is again solid satinwood. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Then it finishes in an elegant rosewood, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
rosewood legs inlaid with boxwood. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
Now what's so nice with this, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
you can imagine this in the early 19th century, round about 1810, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
that the Regency, or the late Georgian, household, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
they'd be sitting there. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-Yes, you're right, it did have a long bag. -Right. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
-That would have been holding the wools and silks and things. -Yes. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
And then the lady of the house would have been sitting there | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
elegantly doing her sewing. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
This is a really good piece of furniture. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
I would put a valuation on this around £5,000 or £6,000. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
Never! | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
My word! | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Granny would be so thrilled. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
She would be absolutely thrilled to pieces, she really would. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
It's...it's just Granny. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:09 | |
In among all the objects brought along by our visitors today, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
we've had a bit of fun with our experts choosing their ultimate age of elegance. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
I wonder which one you'd choose. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
I thought I'd join in the fun, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
so based on the criterion of fashion alone, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
I've plumped for the 1970s, and this vintage dress | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
by that master of elegance, none other than Christian Dior. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
So from the very elegant Spa of Bridlington, bye-bye. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 |