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How far will you go to woo your beloved? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
In 1762, the 5th Earl of Dumfries created one of the finest | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
love nests you'll ever see, only to be rejected by his intended. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
Welcome to the Roadshow from Dumfries House in Ayrshire. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
The 5th Earl of Dumfries was a military man, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
proud Scot and a huntin' shootin' fishin' enthusiast. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
His passion for Lady Mary Douglas, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
the daughter of a friend, led him to this... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
a surprisingly feminine and highly fashionable house for the time. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
The Earl's efforts to win his bride left a unique legacy - | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
it resulted in the most important collection | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
of Chippendale and Scottish furniture from the mid 18th Century. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
The 5th Earl didn't have the taste for all of this, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
he relied on architect Robert Adam, who was part of | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
a great Scottish rebuilding programme, making and creating contemporary Palladian mansions. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
Dumfries House became a hot bed of cutting edge design, from Thomas Chippendale's Director Catalogue. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:57 | |
This is the best collection of that style you'll ever see. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
With his ever-quickening pulse, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
the Earl visited Chippendale and took quite a fancy | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
to his sinuous S-shaped feminine designs | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
with their coquettish curves and come hither flaring. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
This table and chairs cost £85 and were placed here for after dinner card parties 250 years ago. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:22 | |
And they haven't been moved since. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
The Earl was so intoxicated with his designer house | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
that he also employed the best of Scottish furniture designers | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
who produced a rather more masculine look than Chippendale. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
The Earl of Dumfries built his home for love of a woman and then she rejected him. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
Well, he was 40 years older than her, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and then the old Earl's exuberance took another knock - | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
In 1762 when the house was completed, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Chippendale's elaborate decoration furniture | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
immediately fell out of fashion. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
But it's not all bad news - | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
the Earl did find a young wife for his home | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
and what remains is a picture of | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
a style of living and furniture design from the mid 18th century | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
now worth millions. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
What makes it so special is that nothing has changed, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
until last year when disaster almost struck. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
In 2007, the contents of Dumfries House | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
were very close to going under the auctioneer's hammer. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Everything was catalogued, tagged and ready for sale | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
when a charitable trust, headed by Prince Charles, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
stepped in and saved it for the nation and now everyone can see it | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
and I'm delighted to say that Prince Charles will be joining us to tell us more. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
But now, despite the grey skies, the people of Ayrshire are keen | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
to meet our experts for this week's Roadshow. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Well, this is a charming little cabinet. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Do you know anything about it all? | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
-Not a thing, not a thing. -Really? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
OK, so is it a family piece? | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
No, no, no, I bought it at a house sale 15 years ago. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
-Right. How much was it then? -£300. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
Well, that was a good buy. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
I've always thought so because I love it. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Well, that's good, it is a little Italian cabinet. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Oh, it is? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
Cabinets themselves came in the early Tudor period, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
really, into England but they really developed | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
in Western Europe and the name actually lent itself to its purpose | 0:04:27 | 0:04:33 | |
and essentially it was a little architecturally motivated thing... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
piece of furniture... sometimes huge, sometimes even smaller than this, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
and this is where a gentleman would have hidden his latest... | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
ah... his latest purchase, his latest object of art. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
-Inside here you see it's quite plain. -Yes. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Originally, there was a complete compartment which went inside there | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
which would have little mirrors and probably a little inlaid floor, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
-rather like an inner hall, OK? -Yes. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
And that was the cabinet and in that cabinet, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
he would place his latest objet de virtue or object of art, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
a little jewel. That was his cabinet piece and he would show it | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
to his cabinet friends, only his closest associates. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
-And that's where we get the word Cabinet in government from. -Ah. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
-Closest associates, right. -Mm. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Anyway it is, I think, er... | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
round the sort of 1700, 1720 - that sort of period | 0:05:31 | 0:05:37 | |
and it uses ebony and ivory in this amazingly delicate pattern. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:45 | |
You see these shapes, right? | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
-They're figures in black, right? -Yes. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
There will be another little cabinet like this with a simple door | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
with those reversed so the figures will be in ivory | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
and the background will be in ebony, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
just as we can see here, and there it is. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
So you have the ebony and then you have the ivory figures, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
all of which are delineated and etched | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
and then they rubbed lamp black into them and that made them | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
-stand out in black and white, like that, OK? -Uh-huh. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Fabulous little thing, but even without its centre part, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
I think you did very well with your £300. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-You think so? -Yeah. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Erm... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
I should think you've probably earned round about £2,500 on it. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
-What? -Yes. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
That's amazing! Ooh, that's amazing! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
-Yes, certainly. -Wonderful. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:40 | |
I'll come shopping with you next time! | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
I went to buy, I went to buy a lawn mower | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
-at this house sale. -You did? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
No, I bought this instead. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
Your husband sent you to buy a lawn mower. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Well, he had the... seeing as I was going to this house sale... | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-he said, our lawn mower's had it. -We need a lawn mower, yes. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
-And so you came back with that. -Yes. -He must have been really thrilled. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-Oh, thrilled, he was absolutely amazed! -I'm sure he was amazed. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
If you'd bought the lawn mower, that would have been worth a fiver today, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
so this was the better buy. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-Of course it was. -Thank you very much indeed, wonderful. -Thank you. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
You've brought along a selection today of objects very Scottish but | 0:07:19 | 0:07:25 | |
local in so far as that collectively they get known as Mauchline ware. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
Mauchline, M-A-U-C-H-L-I-N-E. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
-Yes. -And a village no more than... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
How far from here? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
About eight miles from here | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
and in the 19th century, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
a pair of very brilliant brothers who worked in a quarry, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
on the river, developed the idea of producing boxes, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
but the interesting thing is, all this work here is referred to | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
as Mauchline ware, but in fact the town of Cumnock really pioneered it, | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
and that tends to be forgotten | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
and here we are on the edge of Cumnock | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
with this great house saved for the nation, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
and some of this work here is a real example of the creativity of Cumnock | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
in the early 19th century. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Well, I'd like to add probably two more names, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Victoria and Albert, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
because, of course, they popularized anything Scottish. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
What is more normal for me is to find this type of object, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
which, as you can see, is in a pale wood and in sycamore | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
and in this case, it's actually been printed with a design, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
and on one side, you've got Floors Castle | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
and the other side you've got Kelso, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
um, and these are things which even today, it's fair to say, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
are relatively affordable, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
because I know that I could go and buy something like that for, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
for maybe £50 to £80. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
But that is going to appeal not just to a tartan ware collector, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
but obviously to a, to a visiting card collector, let's have a look, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
because... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
that, I would have thought, is going to be in the sort of... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
around the £100 to £150 mark. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
Now, the collection itself was put together by yourself? | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Well, my father, being an Ayrshireman, couldn't resist | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
collecting Mauchline ware and he collected from before the war, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:24 | |
right through to about 1970. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
If there's one box on here that is special to you | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
and your father, which one would it be? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
I think this box is very interesting | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
which is a Cumnock made box. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Let me put it there. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
The scene it depicts is a very famous covenanting scene. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
In 1685, Highlanders who absolutely terrified the Lowlands, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
came down to Mauchline, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
they dragged three covenanters out into the town and shot them. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
-Oh, dear. -And this is the scene depicted on this lid. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
So when it comes to, to price, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-do you know how much your father paid for them? -No, I don't. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
He's quite mean... | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
I would have thought it was between sort of £60 to £100, he would never | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
admit to anything more than that. In the '60s, it was a lot of money. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Yes, of course it was. Something like this today, um, I mean it's... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
Damaged. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Yes, but its importance has been spelt out. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
I would suspect that that has got to be at least £500 plus | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
to a collector. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
Fantastic. Thank you very much. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
There's a label on this box which says Clyde Model Dockyard. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Now, I know it as a maker of all kinds of engineered models, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
whether they were yachts or trains or whatever. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
-Now, did you know the shop, Clyde Model Dockyard? -Oh, yes. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
When we were kids, we used to go and get all our toys there. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
And we used to... model aeroplanes... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
balsa wood you need to stick them all up together. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
It was a great place. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Good quality shop, it's a good quality box, let's see | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
if we've got something good quality inside it. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Off comes the lid, out comes the first bit of rail. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Well, now first of all, looking at the bit of rail, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
it's a gauge 1 rail which is one and three quarter inches | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
between the tracks here, so that's a good sign. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Out comes the tender, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
nice looking tender, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
I'm going to ask you to pop that on the track. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-And... -Quite nice. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Quite nice! | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
I love, I love your talent up here for, you know, under-description... | 0:11:41 | 0:11:48 | |
"Quite nice", he says. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
This is...fantastic! | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
Please put it on the track. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
And I'm going to move the box away | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
so that we can see it in all its glory. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
And what else? In the box here, there are a few more bits of track, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
some bits of paper. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
So, this train, I can date pretty much to... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
1906 to 1912. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
You can see the letters G-B-N | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
in this sort of radiating, um, lozenge here and that's a mark | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
that this particular company used from about 1906 to about 1912 | 0:12:25 | 0:12:33 | |
and the name of the company, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
the GBN stands for Gebruder Bing of Nuremberg. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
-Ah. -So interestingly, although it's in a Clyde Model Dockyard box, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
they were just being the retailers rather than the manufacturers. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
He obviously never played with it. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Oh, he did, he used to run it in the garden. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
-Run it in the garden? -Yes, the track was laid out in the garden, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
-and he could run it. -But it's perfect, there isn't one... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
He must have looked after it very well. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
-It's never been repainted. -No. -How extraordinary. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Well, we can see that it's spirit fired | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
so it's a live steam train fired by spirit | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
and here are all the accoutrements to fill the spirit burner. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
We've got the measuring jug, the little funnel, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
the oil can here, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
and so the burner was put underneath the train | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
and it would operate by live steam. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
It's a huge excitement for me to see a train like this. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
I suppose in over 30 years in the antiques business, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
I have never seen a better one. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
It is in fabulous condition. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Absolutely everything is there. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
It's one of the rarest trains I've ever seen, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
not because of its outline but because of its condition. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
My first reaction is to say... | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Well, you know, is it going to be worth £5,000? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
The answer is certainly it's going to be worth £5,000. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
Gosh, that's amazing, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
absolutely amazing. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
But I think in the right auction with the right buyers there, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
you could see it going for between £7,000 and £10,000. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Gosh, can't believe that. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I really can't. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
All the ingredients of a Roadshow classic... a delighted owner, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
an excited expert, and what a remarkable object. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
I reckon that may be even more cherished from now on. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
One of the great bonuses for me on the Roadshow | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
is getting privileged access to some remarkable venues | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
and Dumfries House is a bit of a jewel. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Earlier on, in the introduction, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
I told you about the rescue mission to save this house. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Well, the support of one man in particular was invaluable. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
'Prince Charles spearheaded that rescue mission. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
'Recently I joined him at Dumfries House to find out why he felt he had to get involved.' | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
Your Royal Highness, why was it so important to save Dumfries House? | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, the most important thing, of course, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
was the fact that it was an intact and unique collection | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
which is very rare - | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
to have a house that still has all its original furniture | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
and everything made for the house, in this case by Chippendale | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
and those three great Edinburgh furniture makers - | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
Mathie, Brodie and Peter. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
I remember hearing about this house and I knew there was going to be | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
a problem coming up because Lord Bute wanted to, to sell it, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:49 | |
and all sorts of people who knew about it said it was absolutely magical, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
and I don't know, I'm one of those people who feels that | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
it's so important not to lose something that is totally unique | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
so I'm afraid I felt we had to do something in this case | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
but you can imagine it was quite a challenge. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
And it must have been pretty nerve-racking | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
because it was a last-minute reprieve in the end? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Oh, awful, yes. You see, I'd heard about it four years before | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
but I did try a little bit to see if I could find somebody | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
to help - £45 million, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
a hell of a lot to find. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
Anyway, nobody was really interested and as you know, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
the National Trust for Scotland | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
sadly didn't get anywhere so again, I thought, well, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
nothing ventured, nothing gained, so I asked to see Lord Bute and then... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:43 | |
Anyway, we gradually managed to put something together but it was absolutely last minute | 0:16:43 | 0:16:48 | |
because I don't know whether you knew that the pantechnicons with all this furniture in | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
had got halfway down the motorway and at one o'clock in the morning, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
they got the telephone call and turned round in a motorway service station in Cumbria or somewhere | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
and drove all the way back, and it was as close as that. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Now, we've had the privilege of filming in many of the rooms here at Dumfries House. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
Do you have a favourite room here? | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Yes, I do. It's the, um, the dining room | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
which I think is incredibly special. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
I don't know what it is, it has a really wonderful atmosphere | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
and the light when it comes in, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
is very special, but also the, the plasterwork is of such high quality | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
and that Bassano painting which is set in this rather beautiful frame. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:39 | |
The whole thing, I think, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
has again a unique atmosphere, so that's my favourite room. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
So, um, I think there were quite a lot of rather | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
frustrated people who had their eye on all these bits of furniture! | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Can you imagine what would have happened to this house? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
It would have been totally denuded of everything... | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
and all the pelmets, everything. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
And we would have been back to the same situation | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
that happens so often with country houses, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
where it would have become derelict is my guess, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
because they would never have found another use for it, and you know, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
we would have been left with a crumbling ruin. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
And we'll hear the vision for the future of Dumfries House | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
from the Prince of Wales at the end of the programme. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
Meanwhile, back to the experts hard at work in the gardens. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
Well, David, you're the... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
I would say... | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
you're the curator? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
No, I'm the caretaker of the house, look after the house. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
Well, having had a tour with you last night, I would have thought | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
you're more the custodian - you've been here some years. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Me and my wife have looked after the collection for 11 years | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
and we've looked after it just as if it was our own | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
and we really appreciate everything that's in the house, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
we would hate to see anything get damaged or anything like that, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
we just love all the contents that's in the house. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Well, it's a rare privilege to be with you, and also | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
to be able to touch, without white gloves on just for a second, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
a piece of furniture which we know | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
came from the workshops of Thomas Chippendale | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
and you've seen the original documentation for this piece. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
Yes, I've seen the original receipts for the furniture. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Do we know how much this cost? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
It cost six pounds, eight shillings. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Six pound... When was that? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
In 1759. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
What, what struck me too was... we were talking last night about | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
that piece of timber and the other leaf the other side, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
quite thin, but straight, it's never warped. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Now it's never warped because the house has been allowed to breathe. And that's what you've done. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
Yes, you must open the house up and let the air through it, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
especially in the summer, not so much in the winter, but in the summer, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
the house must be kept at a certain temperature | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
and I think that's how the leafs on haven't warped because... | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Nothing's moved, nothing's moved. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
The chap before me, Dick Freeman, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
-told me when the house should be open and when it should be closed. -And you picked it up from there? | 0:20:00 | 0:20:06 | |
Picked it up from there. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
This particular table, it's quite severe, it's not what people think of | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
as typical Thomas Chippendale, and yet it is from his drawing book, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
it was quite severe and restrained | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
but the proportions have that little edge to any other of the period. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
Now, it was called... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
is it a breakfast table or a supper table or a tea table? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
On the original receipt, it was called a breakfast table. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
Right, breakfast table it is then. After all, they should know. And... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
I think I mentioned to you that sitting on my grandmother's knee, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
she would impart all sorts of bits of knowledge, some of which were | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
pearls of wisdom, some were not. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
One of the things she told me was that | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
tables of this sort with an open, but enclosed compartment below, this case | 0:20:48 | 0:20:55 | |
with chicken wire, sometimes with Chinese fencing type fretwork, | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
was to store the silver for breakfast or fine porcelain. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Now, you've got a better story than that. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
Well, the story I was told about it was... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
-all these houses had dogs in them. -Right. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
And they put the breakfast in there, and the dogs couldn't get in to eat the breakfast. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Grandma, I think you've got a lesson to come there. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Well, who could possibly dispute such a practical story? | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
Whether or not it's true doesn't really matter, it happened in this house. It's of a Pembroke type. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:33 | |
You see them in most good stately homes. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Of course, prices... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
because there isn't another one like it, this is so fully documented. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
What's interesting is that with Chippendale, we think of lots of scrolls and raffle leaves, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
here you've got pure Gothic design in blind fretting, what a joy, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
and fancy living with this lot for 11 years. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
I have a pretty good job but I'm envious, I really am. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
And I think you've done a wonderful job, and continue to do so, and, and I hope to come and see you again. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Now, this is what I would call a "love it or hate it" object. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-What do you think of it? -Well, I love it, I mean | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
I bought it 30 years ago and it hangs in our home and we love it. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
I'm glad you said that because I absolutely love it. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
It's the most fantastic pietra dura picture I've seen in years. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Do you have any idea what it's sort of made of? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
Well, I thought it was marble, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
inlaid marble but I really don't know. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I mean pietra dura literally translated means "hard stone". | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
This is like a souvenir piece from Italy, it sort of follows | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
in the tradition of the Grand Tour | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
which you'd have taken in the late 18th, early 19th century. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
I mean, this is a later pietra dura picture which | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
I'd sort of date at sort of 1880, the late 19th century, basically. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
Um, but the quality of it is just mind blowing. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
It's a fascinating process, I mean, each piece of marble | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
is individually cut and chosen for its shading purposes. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
The wine bottle - that little piece of shading, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
that's an individually cut piece of white marble which is put in, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
purely to give the illusion of a reflection. Where did you get it? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
Well, I bought it over 30 years ago from a business of a former employee | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
which was being wound up, and I've had it ever since. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
-And how much did you pay for it? -I paid £110 for it. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Wow, which 30 years ago would be £800 or so, is that? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
Yes, yes, that was quite a lot of money. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
-It is a lot of money. -1970s. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
But I mean your investment has paid off. I mean, if you think, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
well, let's say that's £800, if you times that by... | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
four, I mean I'd say in the region of sort of £5,000 or so for, for... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:55 | |
It's just such a stunning piece. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
It needs an international market, it's such a good piece. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Well, we love it and we've got two daughters so we certainly | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
won't be selling it, it'll be staying in the family. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
We're all sheltering out of the rain in here. Hello, this looks interesting. What's in here? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:26 | |
-A ram's head. -A ram's head? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Yeah. Yeah it's snuff mole. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-It's a what? -A snuff mole. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
A snuff mole, can I have a look? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Oh, my word! | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-Can I lift it out? -Yeah. -I feel funny about touching it, actually. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
So what in heaven's name is this, then? | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
It's a ram's head but what does it... | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
-You use it for taking snuff. -How? | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
You open this up and you keep the snuff in there, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
and, let's say you're having... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-Where its brains would be? -Yeah, basically where its brains would be. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
And let's say you're having a dinner party, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
at the end of the dinner party usually, one would take this | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
and wheel it around on these, on these wheels. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
And then you would take turns having some snuff | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
and it was a tradition in the Victorian age | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
that this was instead of smoking. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
It is truly hideous, isn't it? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
-Do you want to try some? -Try some? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
OK, how do I do that? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
-Well, OK. -Get this spoon. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
-Right. -And the you just put it sort of in there. -In there? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Yeah, and you sniff it up. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Is that too much. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
-No, that's fine. -That's fine. -You'll be fine. You might sneeze. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
And then you have to sniff it up. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-It's fine. -I dare you. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
OK. Oh, God, I can't believe I'm doing this. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
Aagh! God, eurgh! | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
That... Eurgh! | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
That is revolting! | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
Very wet out there. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
So we've got... we're lucky, we've come inside. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
Wonderful room, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
and wonderful object. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
-Thank you. -Do you like it? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
I've loved it since I was a small girl and I used to | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
visit this old lady at home called Mrs Robertson and I come from | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
the Isle of Jura so we always used to call it the Japanese box. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
So were you, as a child, allowed to play with it? | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-Yes. -Were you really? -Yes. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Not a good idea. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
Children and works of art... | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
But you were very good. as far as we can see, we've only got one chip | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
but apart from that, it's in really good condition. Where do you keep it? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Well, right now I keep it in a cabinet but I have to say | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
when I was at university, it was my jewellery box. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
-Oh, my God! -And I know, and I had it in a rucksack... yes. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
Oh, no, no, no, I don't want to hear that! | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
-Do you know what it is? -No, haven't a clue. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Haven't a clue, no, right. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Well, this is Japanese, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
and it's a small chest called a kodansu. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
And it's made out of wood and then lacquered. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
Various mounts we've got, the handle, the hinges, the catch, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
are all in silver which has been engraved | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
and the body is in different tones of gold lacquer | 0:27:23 | 0:27:30 | |
and silver and these were used for keeping small objects in. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:36 | |
But I think this one, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
which is actually, of its kind, relatively late, say 1870, 1880, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
was probably made for the Western market. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
And if you look at this, we've got irises on here | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
and we've got swirling water. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
When these arrived in Europe, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
they influenced the artists and the manufacturers in Europe | 0:27:59 | 0:28:06 | |
and what came out of boxes and prints | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
-and works of art like this, but the Art Nouveau Movement. -Oh, right. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
-This is Art Nouveau. -Oh, OK. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
And it started really in Japan. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
If we open it,... | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
we have this fantastic... | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
..variety of lacquers, tiny little specks of pure gold on this drawer, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:33 | |
abalone shell let into, um, black lacquer here which gives | 0:28:33 | 0:28:38 | |
the most fantastic iridescent effect and then silver dots on here. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
It all works absolutely brilliantly. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
Um, I think it's a nice thing... | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
The market for Japanese things is a bit soggy at the moment | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
but I think, you know, that if this came up for auction today, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
we would be looking around £1,500, £2,500. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
-Oh, right. -Happy? -Yes, but I wouldn't sell it, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
I've had it for so long now and I've loved it. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
-I've got to put my chequebook away have I? -Yes. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
-Thank you. -No, thank you very much. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Slipware dishes like this were only ever sold locally close to | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
the potteries where they're made so family history is vital | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
in pinning them down. What's the history? | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Well, it came into our family about 1850 through my great grandfather. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
He had a joinery business down in Langholm in Dumfriesshire, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
and apparently did some work for a gentleman | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
in a small hamlet called Gilnockie and couldn't pay for the work and | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
gave him the plate in exchange for the work that was done. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Well, 150 years ago, or so, the dish itself goes back even more, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
I suppose we're looking here at the beginning of the 18th century, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
so 1720, 1750... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
They're not easy to date, but what a wonderful thing to have got. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
I mean, the dish itself is a great piece of slipware. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
You can feel the potter making it, can't you? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
I mean just dribbling the clay, different colour clay, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
just mixed out of the ground and mixed with water into a rather | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
sticky sludge but just trailed and dribbled on to form a pattern. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
The design is very much a sort of Middle Eastern design of... | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
tulips and roses copied by the Dutch potters in Holland, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:28 | |
copied by English Delftware potters and then by | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
a Scottish slipware potter producing a splendid dish just to use, just to | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
decorate your home and then coming down in the family to you today. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
For slipware, it's not bad condition. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
It's got a few cracks but I suppose originally, it was used, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
it was around in the home but then, I suppose... Is it treasured now? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:55 | |
-Yes, very much so. -Where do you keep it? -In the cupboard. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
What's it doing in a cupboard? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
It needs to be kept safe but a design like this, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
you want to really show it and display the wonderful spirit | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
because that's what slipware is all about, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
it's a spirit in pottery which is mixed of age, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
it has a great charm and nowadays, great value. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
I mean 150 years ago, it was worth the price of a job. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
Today, that dish is going to be... | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
£15,000. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Ooh! | 0:31:30 | 0:31:31 | |
-15... -HE LAUGHS | 0:31:33 | 0:31:34 | |
Goodness! | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Slipware is what all the great plate collectors... | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Now, um, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
-dare I say it doesn't look too much at first sight, does it? -No. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
-Been through the wars a bit on the frame, hasn't it? -Yes. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
At least it's behind glass so it's protected. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
-Now, what is it, do you think? -Well, it's a painting of | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
William Nicholson, he painted it, he's the artist. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
He was living up in my mother-in-law's house, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
my grandparents' estate, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
while he was ill one summer and he painted it when he was here. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
-So he was recuperating. -He'd been recuperating yes, from an illness. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
He didn't sign it? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
We always looked for a signature but we couldn't see anything. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
But it's indisputably his work. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
-Oh, good. -It's, um, it's a picture of three calves in a meadow, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
in a sunlit meadow with a great backdrop of | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
tall trees of different varieties | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
and sky beyond, it's lovely. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
There's a multitude of different greens and yellows... | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
I don't normally like those colours together and you suddenly realise | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
what a complicated picture this is, when you start to really look at it. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
-Do you know about William Nicholson? -No, nothing. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
Well, he's one of the sort of... | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
If you could think of three of the most important Edwardian portraitists, he'd be one of them. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
-Oh, right. -Encouraged to paint by Whistler. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Augustus John and Orpen would be the other two, perhaps, but he's one of the greats. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
-Right. -There's no question, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
and he painted in this very slick way, er, with very solid colours | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
and very clean lines and then later, because this is, we think... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
-..an early one. -When was he at... | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
I'm not sure. I think it was before the war. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
-Before the Second War? -Yes. -So in the '30s? -Yes. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
That would make sense because I think it's a relatively late one, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
he died in 1949 and actually, he seems to sort of... | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
slip away from that very high finish, that very Edwardian way of painting, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
into a much more, you know, much looser more relaxed form of painting. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
What he also became famous for was all those amazing still lives of lusterware jugs, very silvery jugs | 0:33:44 | 0:33:50 | |
with maybe a bone-handled knife | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
and a single piece of fruit on a plate on a table, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
and they're very clean and they're very beautiful. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
So this is completely different then? | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
Very experimental indeed, but I think it's a really interesting picture. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
It took me a while to come to see it, to be honest, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
when I was looking into it, and then I noticed | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
how he got this wonderful transparency in the trees | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
and the confidence of some of these brush marks here, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
these are brush marks, I think, going across the top of the meadow. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
Now, um... | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Something like that, not what people expect by Sir William Nicholson, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
but nonetheless, I think it's going to be worth something | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
in the region of £30,000. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
My goodness! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Oh, and I haven't cared when these little bits fell off. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
I wouldn't worry about the housework. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
And if, in fact it had to be bought retail then, then probably £50,000 | 0:34:43 | 0:34:48 | |
or £60,000 might be closer to the mark. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Oh, goodness. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Not surprising we've seen so many golf clubs today as we're surrounded | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
by some of the most famous golf clubs in the world, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
Royal Troon, Prestwick and Turnberry. Do you play golf? | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
Yes, yes, I do play golf, yes. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-At a local? -Yes, yes, I play in Troon. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
The majority of collectors who collect golf clubs | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
are male and, um, you're the first female golf collector I've ever met. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
-What interests you in it? -I just like the history of golf clubs, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
fascinating, I find the woods they used | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
and the metals that they used very interesting and I just... I just... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
There's such a variety, it's fascinating, just really enjoy it. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
Well, you brought a lot along today. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
I'm going to select three that I particularly like. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
The first is what's commonly termed maybe a blacksmith's type. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
-Yes. -It's one of the earliest type of irons, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
completely smooth-faced and, they often have this rather crude fitting | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
between the stem and the actual iron. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
This is an extraordinary one. | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
Yes, I didn't think it was an actual golf club when I got it. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Well, it looks like a segment of an orange doesn't it? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
-Um, but it's a driving iron, I understand? -Yes, yes. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
And this would have been used on the fairway or from a tee? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
It would be used on the fairway and it's quite handy | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
if there were hoof marks on the course or rabbit scrapes. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
-So, this was to get you out of trouble? -Yes. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
Well, this probably dates from around about the 1880s, 1890s | 0:36:21 | 0:36:27 | |
but probably my favourite piece out of the whole collection is | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
not really a golf club at all, is it? | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
No, no. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
But it's a walking stick. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-Yes. -And I understand - and you may tell me I'm totally wrong - | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
that this was called a Sunday stick? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
That's right yes, a Sabbath stick, yes. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Back in the end of the 19th century, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-you were not allowed to play golf on a Sunday. -That's right, yes. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
-But you could go for a walk. -Indeed. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
And when the minister wasn't looking, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
you could turn it around and have a quick practice. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Absolutely, yes. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
And can I ask how much you paid for it? | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Yes, I paid £250 for it. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
-Which was not an insubstantial sum. -No, no. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
But I think this is a real gem. It's in perfect condition, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
it's got the Troon maker on it | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
and it's in absolute pristine condition... | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
I think today at auction, you'd have to pay £450, £500 | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
-so I think that's a real beauty. -Yes. -Great fun. -Thank you very much. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
-Well, thank you very much and good golfing. -Thank you, thank you. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:29 | |
Where has this rather unpretentious vase been lurking | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
before you brought it along today? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
It's been in up our loft, we cleared out our loft, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
and we came across this and we were going to bin it... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
We thought it was just a heap of junk. We were going to bin it | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
and then we thought, we'll hold on to it because we heard the Antique Roadshow was coming here. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
-But I actually bought it at a car boot. -Yeah. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
And it had like a plant inside it, a kind of purple plant. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
We bought it, for the plant because it was quite nice in the bowl. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Yeah, so you're not emotionally attached to this, are you? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
-I can tell. -No. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
-No? -No. -Well, do you know, do you know who made it? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-I don't know anything about it. -Can I tell you? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
-Yes. -If you look very carefully, there's actually a name on it | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
and the name is sort of lurking behind here... we'll turn it round... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
and that name is Lalique. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-And so... Have you heard of Lalique? -Lalique? -Lalique. -Lalique, no? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
OK, well you're on a rapid learning curve today, aren't you? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Well, let me tell you about Rene Lalique. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
He started off life as a jeweller and he became France's premier | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
jeweller during the sort of 1890s, 1900 period in the grand days of | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
the Art Nouveau style and then he turns his attention, in around about | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
1990, 1910, to glass making and he became probably the number one | 0:38:48 | 0:38:55 | |
commercial glass maker of the entire 20th century, so he's got quite | 0:38:55 | 0:39:01 | |
a good pedigree and there's lots of different types of Lalique glass. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
Yours is that little bit different. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
Now and then, you get something called a cire perdue | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
or a lost wax process and this is a candidate, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
um, because this originally would have been made in wax. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
The idea being that once you'd modelled it in wax, you would then | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
encase it using a liquid sort of fire clay slip which would then set hard | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
around it, so hard in actual fact that what would happen is... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
once it had set solid, you would bore a hole into it, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
straight through to the wax and then you would put it, and | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
heat it in an oven, and all the wax would drip out leaving a void inside | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
into which you would then pour molten glass which would then fill the void. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
Now once you've done that, the only way you're going to get it out | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
is to break the mould, so that means | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
that a cire perdue piece, or a lost wax process is, is a unique piece. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
So there's only one of these whereas you might get several hundred... | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
and in certain cases thousands of his other designs. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
So that makes it that little bit more special. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Date wise, I suppose you could be anywhere around about | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
1920 to maybe 1935 so car boot... | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-Yes. -For plant. How much were they asking for the plant? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
I only paid a pound, well a pound, the vase and the plant, uh-huh. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
You paid £1 right, OK. The questions I get asked about this programme... | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
The first question people ask me - | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
they say, "Have you ever broken anything on the Antiques Roadshow?" | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
That's the most familiar question I get. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
The other question is, "What's the most expensive thing you've ever had on the Antiques Roadshow?" | 0:40:45 | 0:40:50 | |
I remember it was probably in Grimsby about 15 years ago | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
and it was a great big huge French jardiniere, that was Grimsby then, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
but I've got to tell you know that as of today, I think it might be this. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
-Because this is worth... -You're joking? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Well, it's worth a mere £25,000. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
Now, we've had a lot of clouds over here today. You know that, don't you? | 0:41:10 | 0:41:16 | |
And they do say that every cloud has a silver lining. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
I can honestly say that we've only had one cloud with a silver lining | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
and it's your vase. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Now, tell me about your loft. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
No, I don't think I will. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
Quite a moment for Eric. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
He tells me he's been waiting a mere 27 years for such a moment | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
and I think there'll be a bit of a celebration in one Ayrshire home tonight. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
Before we close, just time to hear about something of a new beginning. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
The rescue of this house by the Heritage Trust | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
that was set up to look after Dumfries House doesn't end here. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
The Trust is keen to ensure it continues to play an important role | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
in revitalising the economy of this region, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
it's an enterprise close to the heart of the Prince of Wales. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
I felt that here's an opportunity | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
to see if we can begin the regeneration process | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
for an area which has... which suffers from great disadvantage in East Ayrshire, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:15 | |
a former mining community, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
all the mines have closed and it just seemed to me here was | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
a real chance to do something worthwhile | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
and to link the local community with the house. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
It all hinges on this enabling development | 0:42:28 | 0:42:33 | |
on the edge of Cumnock, which is the local town and I want to try and see | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
if we can do a version of what we've already been doing | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
with the Duchy of Cornwall on the edge of Dorchester at Poundbury | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
and you know, mix used development | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
to try and bring in, you know, extra employment | 0:42:50 | 0:42:57 | |
and new people and to improve the environment and to link that | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
extension to Cumnock and Auchinleck with, you know, the grounds here | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
so that you actually create something really worthwhile. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
That's the aim, if it can be done well. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
And if we can keep it going, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
and not have to sell the furniture eventually | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
because we haven't got any money, that will be a success. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Your Royal Highness, thank you very much. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
It's been quite a visit to Dumfries House, with special guests and some unexpected finds. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
Thanks to all those who joined us. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 | |
From Ayrshire, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
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