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How far will you go to woo your beloved?

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In 1762, the 5th Earl of Dumfries created one of the finest

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love nests you'll ever see, only to be rejected by his intended.

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Welcome to the Roadshow from Dumfries House in Ayrshire.

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The 5th Earl of Dumfries was a military man,

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proud Scot and a huntin' shootin' fishin' enthusiast.

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His passion for Lady Mary Douglas,

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the daughter of a friend, led him to this...

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a surprisingly feminine and highly fashionable house for the time.

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The Earl's efforts to win his bride left a unique legacy -

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it resulted in the most important collection

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of Chippendale and Scottish furniture from the mid 18th Century.

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The 5th Earl didn't have the taste for all of this,

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he relied on architect Robert Adam, who was part of

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a great Scottish rebuilding programme, making and creating contemporary Palladian mansions.

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Dumfries House became a hot bed of cutting edge design, from Thomas Chippendale's Director Catalogue.

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This is the best collection of that style you'll ever see.

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With his ever-quickening pulse,

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the Earl visited Chippendale and took quite a fancy

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to his sinuous S-shaped feminine designs

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with their coquettish curves and come hither flaring.

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This table and chairs cost £85 and were placed here for after dinner card parties 250 years ago.

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And they haven't been moved since.

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The Earl was so intoxicated with his designer house

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that he also employed the best of Scottish furniture designers

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who produced a rather more masculine look than Chippendale.

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The Earl of Dumfries built his home for love of a woman and then she rejected him.

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Well, he was 40 years older than her,

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and then the old Earl's exuberance took another knock -

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In 1762 when the house was completed,

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Chippendale's elaborate decoration furniture

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immediately fell out of fashion.

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But it's not all bad news -

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the Earl did find a young wife for his home

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and what remains is a picture of

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a style of living and furniture design from the mid 18th century

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now worth millions.

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What makes it so special is that nothing has changed,

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until last year when disaster almost struck.

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In 2007, the contents of Dumfries House

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were very close to going under the auctioneer's hammer.

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Everything was catalogued, tagged and ready for sale

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when a charitable trust, headed by Prince Charles,

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stepped in and saved it for the nation and now everyone can see it

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and I'm delighted to say that Prince Charles will be joining us to tell us more.

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But now, despite the grey skies, the people of Ayrshire are keen

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to meet our experts for this week's Roadshow.

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Well, this is a charming little cabinet.

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Do you know anything about it all?

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-Not a thing, not a thing.

-Really?

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OK, so is it a family piece?

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No, no, no, I bought it at a house sale 15 years ago.

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-Right. How much was it then?

-£300.

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Well, that was a good buy.

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I've always thought so because I love it.

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Well, that's good, it is a little Italian cabinet.

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Oh, it is?

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Cabinets themselves came in the early Tudor period,

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really, into England but they really developed

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in Western Europe and the name actually lent itself to its purpose

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and essentially it was a little architecturally motivated thing...

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piece of furniture... sometimes huge, sometimes even smaller than this,

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and this is where a gentleman would have hidden his latest...

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ah... his latest purchase, his latest object of art.

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-Inside here you see it's quite plain.

-Yes.

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Originally, there was a complete compartment which went inside there

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which would have little mirrors and probably a little inlaid floor,

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-rather like an inner hall, OK?

-Yes.

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And that was the cabinet and in that cabinet,

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he would place his latest objet de virtue or object of art,

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a little jewel. That was his cabinet piece and he would show it

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to his cabinet friends, only his closest associates.

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-And that's where we get the word Cabinet in government from.

-Ah.

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-Closest associates, right.

-Mm.

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Anyway it is, I think, er...

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round the sort of 1700, 1720 - that sort of period

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and it uses ebony and ivory in this amazingly delicate pattern.

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You see these shapes, right?

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-They're figures in black, right?

-Yes.

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There will be another little cabinet like this with a simple door

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with those reversed so the figures will be in ivory

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and the background will be in ebony,

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just as we can see here, and there it is.

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So you have the ebony and then you have the ivory figures,

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all of which are delineated and etched

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and then they rubbed lamp black into them and that made them

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-stand out in black and white, like that, OK?

-Uh-huh.

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Fabulous little thing, but even without its centre part,

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I think you did very well with your £300.

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-You think so?

-Yeah.

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Erm...

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I should think you've probably earned round about £2,500 on it.

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-What?

-Yes.

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That's amazing! Ooh, that's amazing!

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-Yes, certainly.

-Wonderful.

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I'll come shopping with you next time!

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I went to buy, I went to buy a lawn mower

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-at this house sale.

-You did?

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No, I bought this instead.

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LAUGHTER

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Your husband sent you to buy a lawn mower.

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Well, he had the... seeing as I was going to this house sale...

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-he said, our lawn mower's had it.

-We need a lawn mower, yes.

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-And so you came back with that.

-Yes.

-He must have been really thrilled.

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-Oh, thrilled, he was absolutely amazed!

-I'm sure he was amazed.

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LAUGHTER

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If you'd bought the lawn mower, that would have been worth a fiver today,

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so this was the better buy.

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-Of course it was.

-Thank you very much indeed, wonderful.

-Thank you.

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You've brought along a selection today of objects very Scottish but

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local in so far as that collectively they get known as Mauchline ware.

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Mauchline, M-A-U-C-H-L-I-N-E.

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-Yes.

-And a village no more than...

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How far from here?

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About eight miles from here

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and in the 19th century,

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a pair of very brilliant brothers who worked in a quarry,

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on the river, developed the idea of producing boxes,

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but the interesting thing is, all this work here is referred to

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as Mauchline ware, but in fact the town of Cumnock really pioneered it,

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and that tends to be forgotten

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and here we are on the edge of Cumnock

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with this great house saved for the nation,

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and some of this work here is a real example of the creativity of Cumnock

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in the early 19th century.

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Well, I'd like to add probably two more names,

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Victoria and Albert,

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because, of course, they popularized anything Scottish.

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What is more normal for me is to find this type of object,

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which, as you can see, is in a pale wood and in sycamore

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and in this case, it's actually been printed with a design,

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and on one side, you've got Floors Castle

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and the other side you've got Kelso,

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um, and these are things which even today, it's fair to say,

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are relatively affordable,

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because I know that I could go and buy something like that for,

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for maybe £50 to £80.

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But that is going to appeal not just to a tartan ware collector,

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but obviously to a, to a visiting card collector, let's have a look,

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because...

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that, I would have thought, is going to be in the sort of...

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around the £100 to £150 mark.

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Now, the collection itself was put together by yourself?

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Well, my father, being an Ayrshireman, couldn't resist

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collecting Mauchline ware and he collected from before the war,

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right through to about 1970.

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If there's one box on here that is special to you

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and your father, which one would it be?

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I think this box is very interesting

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which is a Cumnock made box.

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Let me put it there.

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The scene it depicts is a very famous covenanting scene.

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In 1685, Highlanders who absolutely terrified the Lowlands,

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came down to Mauchline,

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they dragged three covenanters out into the town and shot them.

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-Oh, dear.

-And this is the scene depicted on this lid.

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So when it comes to, to price,

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-do you know how much your father paid for them?

-No, I don't.

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He's quite mean...

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I would have thought it was between sort of £60 to £100, he would never

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admit to anything more than that. In the '60s, it was a lot of money.

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Yes, of course it was. Something like this today, um, I mean it's...

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Damaged.

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Yes, but its importance has been spelt out.

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I would suspect that that has got to be at least £500 plus

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to a collector.

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Fantastic. Thank you very much.

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There's a label on this box which says Clyde Model Dockyard.

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Now, I know it as a maker of all kinds of engineered models,

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whether they were yachts or trains or whatever.

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-Now, did you know the shop, Clyde Model Dockyard?

-Oh, yes.

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When we were kids, we used to go and get all our toys there.

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And we used to... model aeroplanes...

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balsa wood you need to stick them all up together.

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It was a great place.

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Good quality shop, it's a good quality box, let's see

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if we've got something good quality inside it.

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Off comes the lid, out comes the first bit of rail.

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Well, now first of all, looking at the bit of rail,

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it's a gauge 1 rail which is one and three quarter inches

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between the tracks here, so that's a good sign.

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Out comes the tender,

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nice looking tender,

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I'm going to ask you to pop that on the track.

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-And...

-Quite nice.

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Quite nice!

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I love, I love your talent up here for, you know, under-description...

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"Quite nice", he says.

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This is...fantastic!

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Please put it on the track.

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And I'm going to move the box away

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so that we can see it in all its glory.

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And what else? In the box here, there are a few more bits of track,

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some bits of paper.

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So, this train, I can date pretty much to...

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1906 to 1912.

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You can see the letters G-B-N

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in this sort of radiating, um, lozenge here and that's a mark

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that this particular company used from about 1906 to about 1912

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and the name of the company,

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the GBN stands for Gebruder Bing of Nuremberg.

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-Ah.

-So interestingly, although it's in a Clyde Model Dockyard box,

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they were just being the retailers rather than the manufacturers.

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He obviously never played with it.

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Oh, he did, he used to run it in the garden.

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-Run it in the garden?

-Yes, the track was laid out in the garden,

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-and he could run it.

-But it's perfect, there isn't one...

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He must have looked after it very well.

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-It's never been repainted.

-No.

-How extraordinary.

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Well, we can see that it's spirit fired

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so it's a live steam train fired by spirit

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and here are all the accoutrements to fill the spirit burner.

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We've got the measuring jug, the little funnel,

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the oil can here,

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and so the burner was put underneath the train

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and it would operate by live steam.

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It's a huge excitement for me to see a train like this.

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I suppose in over 30 years in the antiques business,

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I have never seen a better one.

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It is in fabulous condition.

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Absolutely everything is there.

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It's one of the rarest trains I've ever seen,

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not because of its outline but because of its condition.

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My first reaction is to say...

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Well, you know, is it going to be worth £5,000?

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The answer is certainly it's going to be worth £5,000.

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Gosh, that's amazing,

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absolutely amazing.

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But I think in the right auction with the right buyers there,

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you could see it going for between £7,000 and £10,000.

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Gosh, can't believe that.

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I really can't.

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All the ingredients of a Roadshow classic... a delighted owner,

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an excited expert, and what a remarkable object.

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I reckon that may be even more cherished from now on.

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One of the great bonuses for me on the Roadshow

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is getting privileged access to some remarkable venues

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and Dumfries House is a bit of a jewel.

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Earlier on, in the introduction,

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I told you about the rescue mission to save this house.

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Well, the support of one man in particular was invaluable.

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'Prince Charles spearheaded that rescue mission.

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'Recently I joined him at Dumfries House to find out why he felt he had to get involved.'

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Your Royal Highness, why was it so important to save Dumfries House?

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Well, the most important thing, of course,

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was the fact that it was an intact and unique collection

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which is very rare -

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to have a house that still has all its original furniture

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and everything made for the house, in this case by Chippendale

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and those three great Edinburgh furniture makers -

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Mathie, Brodie and Peter.

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I remember hearing about this house and I knew there was going to be

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a problem coming up because Lord Bute wanted to, to sell it,

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and all sorts of people who knew about it said it was absolutely magical,

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and I don't know, I'm one of those people who feels that

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it's so important not to lose something that is totally unique

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so I'm afraid I felt we had to do something in this case

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but you can imagine it was quite a challenge.

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And it must have been pretty nerve-racking

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because it was a last-minute reprieve in the end?

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Oh, awful, yes. You see, I'd heard about it four years before

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but I did try a little bit to see if I could find somebody

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to help - £45 million,

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a hell of a lot to find.

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Anyway, nobody was really interested and as you know,

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the National Trust for Scotland

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sadly didn't get anywhere so again, I thought, well,

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nothing ventured, nothing gained, so I asked to see Lord Bute and then...

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Anyway, we gradually managed to put something together but it was absolutely last minute

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because I don't know whether you knew that the pantechnicons with all this furniture in

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had got halfway down the motorway and at one o'clock in the morning,

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they got the telephone call and turned round in a motorway service station in Cumbria or somewhere

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and drove all the way back, and it was as close as that.

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Now, we've had the privilege of filming in many of the rooms here at Dumfries House.

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Do you have a favourite room here?

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Yes, I do. It's the, um, the dining room

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which I think is incredibly special.

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I don't know what it is, it has a really wonderful atmosphere

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and the light when it comes in,

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is very special, but also the, the plasterwork is of such high quality

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and that Bassano painting which is set in this rather beautiful frame.

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The whole thing, I think,

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has again a unique atmosphere, so that's my favourite room.

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So, um, I think there were quite a lot of rather

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frustrated people who had their eye on all these bits of furniture!

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Can you imagine what would have happened to this house?

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It would have been totally denuded of everything...

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and all the pelmets, everything.

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And we would have been back to the same situation

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that happens so often with country houses,

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where it would have become derelict is my guess,

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because they would never have found another use for it, and you know,

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we would have been left with a crumbling ruin.

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And we'll hear the vision for the future of Dumfries House

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from the Prince of Wales at the end of the programme.

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Meanwhile, back to the experts hard at work in the gardens.

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Well, David, you're the...

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I would say...

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you're the curator?

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No, I'm the caretaker of the house, look after the house.

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Well, having had a tour with you last night, I would have thought

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you're more the custodian - you've been here some years.

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Me and my wife have looked after the collection for 11 years

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and we've looked after it just as if it was our own

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and we really appreciate everything that's in the house,

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we would hate to see anything get damaged or anything like that,

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we just love all the contents that's in the house.

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Well, it's a rare privilege to be with you, and also

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to be able to touch, without white gloves on just for a second,

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a piece of furniture which we know

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came from the workshops of Thomas Chippendale

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and you've seen the original documentation for this piece.

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Yes, I've seen the original receipts for the furniture.

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Do we know how much this cost?

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It cost six pounds, eight shillings.

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Six pound... When was that?

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In 1759.

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What, what struck me too was... we were talking last night about

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that piece of timber and the other leaf the other side,

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quite thin, but straight, it's never warped.

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Now it's never warped because the house has been allowed to breathe. And that's what you've done.

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Yes, you must open the house up and let the air through it,

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especially in the summer, not so much in the winter, but in the summer,

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the house must be kept at a certain temperature

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and I think that's how the leafs on haven't warped because...

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Nothing's moved, nothing's moved.

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The chap before me, Dick Freeman,

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-told me when the house should be open and when it should be closed.

-And you picked it up from there?

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Picked it up from there.

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This particular table, it's quite severe, it's not what people think of

0:20:070:20:12

as typical Thomas Chippendale, and yet it is from his drawing book,

0:20:120:20:17

it was quite severe and restrained

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but the proportions have that little edge to any other of the period.

0:20:190:20:23

Now, it was called...

0:20:230:20:25

is it a breakfast table or a supper table or a tea table?

0:20:250:20:28

On the original receipt, it was called a breakfast table.

0:20:280:20:31

Right, breakfast table it is then. After all, they should know. And...

0:20:310:20:35

I think I mentioned to you that sitting on my grandmother's knee,

0:20:350:20:40

she would impart all sorts of bits of knowledge, some of which were

0:20:400:20:43

pearls of wisdom, some were not.

0:20:430:20:45

One of the things she told me was that

0:20:450:20:48

tables of this sort with an open, but enclosed compartment below, this case

0:20:480:20:55

with chicken wire, sometimes with Chinese fencing type fretwork,

0:20:550:21:00

was to store the silver for breakfast or fine porcelain.

0:21:000:21:05

Now, you've got a better story than that.

0:21:050:21:07

Well, the story I was told about it was...

0:21:070:21:10

-all these houses had dogs in them.

-Right.

0:21:100:21:12

And they put the breakfast in there, and the dogs couldn't get in to eat the breakfast.

0:21:120:21:16

LAUGHTER

0:21:160:21:19

Grandma, I think you've got a lesson to come there.

0:21:190:21:22

Well, who could possibly dispute such a practical story?

0:21:230:21:27

Whether or not it's true doesn't really matter, it happened in this house. It's of a Pembroke type.

0:21:270:21:33

You see them in most good stately homes.

0:21:330:21:35

Of course, prices...

0:21:350:21:38

because there isn't another one like it, this is so fully documented.

0:21:380:21:42

What's interesting is that with Chippendale, we think of lots of scrolls and raffle leaves,

0:21:420:21:47

here you've got pure Gothic design in blind fretting, what a joy,

0:21:470:21:52

and fancy living with this lot for 11 years.

0:21:520:21:54

I have a pretty good job but I'm envious, I really am.

0:21:540:21:58

And I think you've done a wonderful job, and continue to do so, and, and I hope to come and see you again.

0:21:580:22:03

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:22:030:22:06

Now, this is what I would call a "love it or hate it" object.

0:22:090:22:12

-What do you think of it?

-Well, I love it, I mean

0:22:120:22:15

I bought it 30 years ago and it hangs in our home and we love it.

0:22:150:22:21

I'm glad you said that because I absolutely love it.

0:22:210:22:24

It's the most fantastic pietra dura picture I've seen in years.

0:22:240:22:27

Do you have any idea what it's sort of made of?

0:22:270:22:31

Well, I thought it was marble,

0:22:310:22:32

inlaid marble but I really don't know.

0:22:320:22:35

I mean pietra dura literally translated means "hard stone".

0:22:350:22:39

This is like a souvenir piece from Italy, it sort of follows

0:22:390:22:42

in the tradition of the Grand Tour

0:22:420:22:45

which you'd have taken in the late 18th, early 19th century.

0:22:450:22:49

I mean, this is a later pietra dura picture which

0:22:490:22:52

I'd sort of date at sort of 1880, the late 19th century, basically.

0:22:520:22:56

Um, but the quality of it is just mind blowing.

0:22:560:23:00

It's a fascinating process, I mean, each piece of marble

0:23:000:23:03

is individually cut and chosen for its shading purposes.

0:23:030:23:09

The wine bottle - that little piece of shading,

0:23:090:23:12

that's an individually cut piece of white marble which is put in,

0:23:120:23:16

purely to give the illusion of a reflection. Where did you get it?

0:23:160:23:20

Well, I bought it over 30 years ago from a business of a former employee

0:23:200:23:25

which was being wound up, and I've had it ever since.

0:23:250:23:29

-And how much did you pay for it?

-I paid £110 for it.

0:23:290:23:32

Wow, which 30 years ago would be £800 or so, is that?

0:23:320:23:37

Yes, yes, that was quite a lot of money.

0:23:370:23:39

-It is a lot of money.

-1970s.

0:23:390:23:41

But I mean your investment has paid off. I mean, if you think,

0:23:410:23:45

well, let's say that's £800, if you times that by...

0:23:450:23:49

four, I mean I'd say in the region of sort of £5,000 or so for, for...

0:23:490:23:55

It's just such a stunning piece.

0:23:550:23:57

It needs an international market, it's such a good piece.

0:23:570:24:00

Well, we love it and we've got two daughters so we certainly

0:24:000:24:04

won't be selling it, it'll be staying in the family.

0:24:040:24:07

We're all sheltering out of the rain in here. Hello, this looks interesting. What's in here?

0:24:200:24:26

-A ram's head.

-A ram's head?

0:24:260:24:28

Yeah. Yeah it's snuff mole.

0:24:280:24:31

-It's a what?

-A snuff mole.

0:24:310:24:33

A snuff mole, can I have a look?

0:24:330:24:35

Yeah, sure.

0:24:350:24:38

Oh, my word!

0:24:380:24:41

-Can I lift it out?

-Yeah.

-I feel funny about touching it, actually.

0:24:410:24:44

So what in heaven's name is this, then?

0:24:440:24:46

It's a ram's head but what does it...

0:24:460:24:49

-You use it for taking snuff.

-How?

0:24:490:24:51

You open this up and you keep the snuff in there,

0:24:510:24:55

and, let's say you're having...

0:24:550:24:57

-Where its brains would be?

-Yeah, basically where its brains would be.

0:24:570:25:00

And let's say you're having a dinner party,

0:25:000:25:03

at the end of the dinner party usually, one would take this

0:25:030:25:06

and wheel it around on these, on these wheels.

0:25:060:25:09

Oh, my goodness!

0:25:090:25:11

And then you would take turns having some snuff

0:25:110:25:14

and it was a tradition in the Victorian age

0:25:140:25:18

that this was instead of smoking.

0:25:180:25:20

It is truly hideous, isn't it?

0:25:200:25:22

-Do you want to try some?

-Try some?

0:25:220:25:24

OK, how do I do that?

0:25:240:25:28

-Well, OK.

-Get this spoon.

0:25:280:25:31

-Right.

-And the you just put it sort of in there.

-In there?

0:25:310:25:34

Yeah, and you sniff it up.

0:25:340:25:37

Is that too much.

0:25:370:25:38

-No, that's fine.

-That's fine.

-You'll be fine. You might sneeze.

0:25:380:25:42

And then you have to sniff it up.

0:25:420:25:45

-It's fine.

-I dare you.

0:25:450:25:47

OK. Oh, God, I can't believe I'm doing this.

0:25:470:25:51

Aagh! God, eurgh!

0:25:530:25:55

That... Eurgh!

0:25:550:25:57

That is revolting!

0:25:570:25:59

Very wet out there.

0:26:030:26:05

So we've got... we're lucky, we've come inside.

0:26:050:26:09

Wonderful room,

0:26:090:26:10

and wonderful object.

0:26:100:26:12

-Thank you.

-Do you like it?

0:26:120:26:13

I've loved it since I was a small girl and I used to

0:26:130:26:16

visit this old lady at home called Mrs Robertson and I come from

0:26:160:26:20

the Isle of Jura so we always used to call it the Japanese box.

0:26:200:26:24

So were you, as a child, allowed to play with it?

0:26:240:26:27

-Yes.

-Were you really?

-Yes.

0:26:270:26:29

Not a good idea.

0:26:290:26:31

Children and works of art...

0:26:310:26:34

But you were very good. as far as we can see, we've only got one chip

0:26:340:26:38

but apart from that, it's in really good condition. Where do you keep it?

0:26:380:26:42

Well, right now I keep it in a cabinet but I have to say

0:26:420:26:45

when I was at university, it was my jewellery box.

0:26:450:26:47

-Oh, my God!

-And I know, and I had it in a rucksack... yes.

0:26:470:26:52

Oh, no, no, no, I don't want to hear that!

0:26:520:26:55

HE LAUGHS

0:26:550:26:57

-Do you know what it is?

-No, haven't a clue.

0:26:570:26:59

Haven't a clue, no, right.

0:26:590:27:02

Well, this is Japanese,

0:27:020:27:05

and it's a small chest called a kodansu.

0:27:050:27:09

And it's made out of wood and then lacquered.

0:27:110:27:14

Various mounts we've got, the handle, the hinges, the catch,

0:27:140:27:19

are all in silver which has been engraved

0:27:190:27:23

and the body is in different tones of gold lacquer

0:27:230:27:30

and silver and these were used for keeping small objects in.

0:27:300:27:36

But I think this one,

0:27:370:27:39

which is actually, of its kind, relatively late, say 1870, 1880,

0:27:390:27:45

was probably made for the Western market.

0:27:450:27:49

And if you look at this, we've got irises on here

0:27:490:27:53

and we've got swirling water.

0:27:530:27:56

When these arrived in Europe,

0:27:560:27:59

they influenced the artists and the manufacturers in Europe

0:27:590:28:06

and what came out of boxes and prints

0:28:060:28:10

-and works of art like this, but the Art Nouveau Movement.

-Oh, right.

0:28:100:28:14

-This is Art Nouveau.

-Oh, OK.

0:28:140:28:16

And it started really in Japan.

0:28:160:28:19

If we open it,...

0:28:190:28:22

we have this fantastic...

0:28:220:28:24

..variety of lacquers, tiny little specks of pure gold on this drawer,

0:28:260:28:33

abalone shell let into, um, black lacquer here which gives

0:28:330:28:38

the most fantastic iridescent effect and then silver dots on here.

0:28:380:28:43

It all works absolutely brilliantly.

0:28:430:28:46

Um, I think it's a nice thing...

0:28:460:28:50

The market for Japanese things is a bit soggy at the moment

0:28:500:28:54

but I think, you know, that if this came up for auction today,

0:28:540:28:58

we would be looking around £1,500, £2,500.

0:28:580:29:03

-Oh, right.

-Happy?

-Yes, but I wouldn't sell it,

0:29:030:29:06

I've had it for so long now and I've loved it.

0:29:060:29:08

-I've got to put my chequebook away have I?

-Yes.

0:29:080:29:11

-Thank you.

-No, thank you very much.

0:29:110:29:13

Slipware dishes like this were only ever sold locally close to

0:29:170:29:20

the potteries where they're made so family history is vital

0:29:200:29:23

in pinning them down. What's the history?

0:29:230:29:26

Well, it came into our family about 1850 through my great grandfather.

0:29:260:29:31

He had a joinery business down in Langholm in Dumfriesshire,

0:29:310:29:34

and apparently did some work for a gentleman

0:29:340:29:38

in a small hamlet called Gilnockie and couldn't pay for the work and

0:29:380:29:43

gave him the plate in exchange for the work that was done.

0:29:430:29:46

Well, 150 years ago, or so, the dish itself goes back even more,

0:29:460:29:51

I suppose we're looking here at the beginning of the 18th century,

0:29:510:29:54

so 1720, 1750...

0:29:540:29:56

They're not easy to date, but what a wonderful thing to have got.

0:29:560:30:01

I mean, the dish itself is a great piece of slipware.

0:30:010:30:05

You can feel the potter making it, can't you?

0:30:050:30:08

I mean just dribbling the clay, different colour clay,

0:30:080:30:11

just mixed out of the ground and mixed with water into a rather

0:30:110:30:14

sticky sludge but just trailed and dribbled on to form a pattern.

0:30:140:30:19

The design is very much a sort of Middle Eastern design of...

0:30:190:30:23

tulips and roses copied by the Dutch potters in Holland,

0:30:230:30:28

copied by English Delftware potters and then by

0:30:280:30:31

a Scottish slipware potter producing a splendid dish just to use, just to

0:30:310:30:36

decorate your home and then coming down in the family to you today.

0:30:360:30:42

For slipware, it's not bad condition.

0:30:420:30:45

It's got a few cracks but I suppose originally, it was used,

0:30:450:30:49

it was around in the home but then, I suppose... Is it treasured now?

0:30:490:30:55

-Yes, very much so.

-Where do you keep it?

-In the cupboard.

0:30:550:30:58

What's it doing in a cupboard?

0:31:000:31:01

It needs to be kept safe but a design like this,

0:31:030:31:06

you want to really show it and display the wonderful spirit

0:31:060:31:10

because that's what slipware is all about,

0:31:100:31:13

it's a spirit in pottery which is mixed of age,

0:31:130:31:17

it has a great charm and nowadays, great value.

0:31:170:31:20

I mean 150 years ago, it was worth the price of a job.

0:31:200:31:26

Today, that dish is going to be...

0:31:260:31:29

£15,000.

0:31:290:31:30

Ooh!

0:31:300:31:31

-15...

-HE LAUGHS

0:31:330:31:34

Goodness!

0:31:350:31:37

Slipware is what all the great plate collectors...

0:31:370:31:40

Now, um,

0:31:430:31:45

-dare I say it doesn't look too much at first sight, does it?

-No.

0:31:450:31:49

-Been through the wars a bit on the frame, hasn't it?

-Yes.

0:31:490:31:52

At least it's behind glass so it's protected.

0:31:520:31:54

-Now, what is it, do you think?

-Well, it's a painting of

0:31:540:31:59

William Nicholson, he painted it, he's the artist.

0:31:590:32:03

He was living up in my mother-in-law's house,

0:32:030:32:07

my grandparents' estate,

0:32:070:32:10

while he was ill one summer and he painted it when he was here.

0:32:100:32:15

-So he was recuperating.

-He'd been recuperating yes, from an illness.

0:32:150:32:19

He didn't sign it?

0:32:190:32:20

We always looked for a signature but we couldn't see anything.

0:32:200:32:24

But it's indisputably his work.

0:32:240:32:26

-Oh, good.

-It's, um, it's a picture of three calves in a meadow,

0:32:260:32:30

in a sunlit meadow with a great backdrop of

0:32:300:32:32

tall trees of different varieties

0:32:320:32:34

and sky beyond, it's lovely.

0:32:340:32:36

There's a multitude of different greens and yellows...

0:32:360:32:39

I don't normally like those colours together and you suddenly realise

0:32:390:32:43

what a complicated picture this is, when you start to really look at it.

0:32:430:32:47

-Do you know about William Nicholson?

-No, nothing.

0:32:470:32:51

Well, he's one of the sort of...

0:32:510:32:53

If you could think of three of the most important Edwardian portraitists, he'd be one of them.

0:32:530:32:58

-Oh, right.

-Encouraged to paint by Whistler.

0:32:580:33:01

Augustus John and Orpen would be the other two, perhaps, but he's one of the greats.

0:33:010:33:05

-Right.

-There's no question,

0:33:050:33:07

and he painted in this very slick way, er, with very solid colours

0:33:070:33:12

and very clean lines and then later, because this is, we think...

0:33:120:33:18

-..an early one.

-When was he at...

0:33:180:33:20

I'm not sure. I think it was before the war.

0:33:200:33:23

-Before the Second War?

-Yes.

-So in the '30s?

-Yes.

0:33:230:33:26

That would make sense because I think it's a relatively late one,

0:33:260:33:30

he died in 1949 and actually, he seems to sort of...

0:33:300:33:35

slip away from that very high finish, that very Edwardian way of painting,

0:33:350:33:39

into a much more, you know, much looser more relaxed form of painting.

0:33:390:33:44

What he also became famous for was all those amazing still lives of lusterware jugs, very silvery jugs

0:33:440:33:50

with maybe a bone-handled knife

0:33:500:33:52

and a single piece of fruit on a plate on a table,

0:33:520:33:55

and they're very clean and they're very beautiful.

0:33:550:33:58

So this is completely different then?

0:33:580:34:00

Very experimental indeed, but I think it's a really interesting picture.

0:34:000:34:05

It took me a while to come to see it, to be honest,

0:34:050:34:08

when I was looking into it, and then I noticed

0:34:080:34:10

how he got this wonderful transparency in the trees

0:34:100:34:13

and the confidence of some of these brush marks here,

0:34:130:34:16

these are brush marks, I think, going across the top of the meadow.

0:34:160:34:20

Now, um...

0:34:200:34:22

Something like that, not what people expect by Sir William Nicholson,

0:34:220:34:26

but nonetheless, I think it's going to be worth something

0:34:260:34:29

in the region of £30,000.

0:34:290:34:31

My goodness!

0:34:310:34:33

Oh, and I haven't cared when these little bits fell off.

0:34:330:34:38

I wouldn't worry about the housework.

0:34:380:34:40

And if, in fact it had to be bought retail then, then probably £50,000

0:34:430:34:48

or £60,000 might be closer to the mark.

0:34:480:34:50

Oh, goodness.

0:34:500:34:52

Not surprising we've seen so many golf clubs today as we're surrounded

0:34:520:34:57

by some of the most famous golf clubs in the world,

0:34:570:34:59

Royal Troon, Prestwick and Turnberry. Do you play golf?

0:34:590:35:03

Yes, yes, I do play golf, yes.

0:35:030:35:06

-At a local?

-Yes, yes, I play in Troon.

0:35:060:35:09

The majority of collectors who collect golf clubs

0:35:090:35:12

are male and, um, you're the first female golf collector I've ever met.

0:35:120:35:16

-What interests you in it?

-I just like the history of golf clubs,

0:35:160:35:20

fascinating, I find the woods they used

0:35:200:35:24

and the metals that they used very interesting and I just... I just...

0:35:240:35:28

There's such a variety, it's fascinating, just really enjoy it.

0:35:280:35:32

Well, you brought a lot along today.

0:35:320:35:34

I'm going to select three that I particularly like.

0:35:340:35:37

The first is what's commonly termed maybe a blacksmith's type.

0:35:370:35:43

-Yes.

-It's one of the earliest type of irons,

0:35:430:35:46

completely smooth-faced and, they often have this rather crude fitting

0:35:460:35:51

between the stem and the actual iron.

0:35:510:35:54

This is an extraordinary one.

0:35:580:35:59

Yes, I didn't think it was an actual golf club when I got it.

0:35:590:36:02

Well, it looks like a segment of an orange doesn't it?

0:36:020:36:05

-Um, but it's a driving iron, I understand?

-Yes, yes.

0:36:050:36:09

And this would have been used on the fairway or from a tee?

0:36:090:36:12

It would be used on the fairway and it's quite handy

0:36:120:36:15

if there were hoof marks on the course or rabbit scrapes.

0:36:150:36:19

-So, this was to get you out of trouble?

-Yes.

0:36:190:36:21

Well, this probably dates from around about the 1880s, 1890s

0:36:210:36:27

but probably my favourite piece out of the whole collection is

0:36:270:36:32

not really a golf club at all, is it?

0:36:320:36:34

No, no.

0:36:340:36:36

But it's a walking stick.

0:36:360:36:38

-Yes.

-And I understand - and you may tell me I'm totally wrong -

0:36:380:36:42

that this was called a Sunday stick?

0:36:420:36:44

That's right yes, a Sabbath stick, yes.

0:36:440:36:46

Back in the end of the 19th century,

0:36:460:36:49

-you were not allowed to play golf on a Sunday.

-That's right, yes.

0:36:490:36:52

-But you could go for a walk.

-Indeed.

0:36:520:36:54

And when the minister wasn't looking,

0:36:540:36:56

you could turn it around and have a quick practice.

0:36:560:36:59

Absolutely, yes.

0:36:590:37:01

And can I ask how much you paid for it?

0:37:010:37:04

Yes, I paid £250 for it.

0:37:040:37:06

-Which was not an insubstantial sum.

-No, no.

0:37:060:37:09

But I think this is a real gem. It's in perfect condition,

0:37:090:37:12

it's got the Troon maker on it

0:37:120:37:14

and it's in absolute pristine condition...

0:37:140:37:17

I think today at auction, you'd have to pay £450, £500

0:37:170:37:22

-so I think that's a real beauty.

-Yes.

-Great fun.

-Thank you very much.

0:37:220:37:25

-Well, thank you very much and good golfing.

-Thank you, thank you.

0:37:250:37:29

Where has this rather unpretentious vase been lurking

0:37:290:37:33

before you brought it along today?

0:37:330:37:36

It's been in up our loft, we cleared out our loft,

0:37:360:37:38

and we came across this and we were going to bin it...

0:37:380:37:41

We thought it was just a heap of junk. We were going to bin it

0:37:410:37:45

and then we thought, we'll hold on to it because we heard the Antique Roadshow was coming here.

0:37:450:37:50

-But I actually bought it at a car boot.

-Yeah.

0:37:500:37:53

And it had like a plant inside it, a kind of purple plant.

0:37:530:37:56

We bought it, for the plant because it was quite nice in the bowl.

0:37:560:38:00

Yeah, so you're not emotionally attached to this, are you?

0:38:000:38:03

-I can tell.

-No.

0:38:030:38:05

-No?

-No.

-Well, do you know, do you know who made it?

0:38:050:38:08

-I don't know anything about it.

-Can I tell you?

0:38:080:38:11

-Yes.

-If you look very carefully, there's actually a name on it

0:38:110:38:15

and the name is sort of lurking behind here... we'll turn it round...

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and that name is Lalique.

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-And so... Have you heard of Lalique?

-Lalique?

-Lalique.

-Lalique, no?

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OK, well you're on a rapid learning curve today, aren't you?

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Well, let me tell you about Rene Lalique.

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He started off life as a jeweller and he became France's premier

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jeweller during the sort of 1890s, 1900 period in the grand days of

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the Art Nouveau style and then he turns his attention, in around about

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1990, 1910, to glass making and he became probably the number one

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commercial glass maker of the entire 20th century, so he's got quite

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a good pedigree and there's lots of different types of Lalique glass.

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Yours is that little bit different.

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Now and then, you get something called a cire perdue

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or a lost wax process and this is a candidate,

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um, because this originally would have been made in wax.

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The idea being that once you'd modelled it in wax, you would then

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encase it using a liquid sort of fire clay slip which would then set hard

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around it, so hard in actual fact that what would happen is...

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once it had set solid, you would bore a hole into it,

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straight through to the wax and then you would put it, and

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heat it in an oven, and all the wax would drip out leaving a void inside

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into which you would then pour molten glass which would then fill the void.

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Now once you've done that, the only way you're going to get it out

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is to break the mould, so that means

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that a cire perdue piece, or a lost wax process is, is a unique piece.

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So there's only one of these whereas you might get several hundred...

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and in certain cases thousands of his other designs.

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So that makes it that little bit more special.

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Date wise, I suppose you could be anywhere around about

0:40:150:40:19

1920 to maybe 1935 so car boot...

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-Yes.

-For plant. How much were they asking for the plant?

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I only paid a pound, well a pound, the vase and the plant, uh-huh.

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You paid £1 right, OK. The questions I get asked about this programme...

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The first question people ask me -

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they say, "Have you ever broken anything on the Antiques Roadshow?"

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That's the most familiar question I get.

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The other question is, "What's the most expensive thing you've ever had on the Antiques Roadshow?"

0:40:450:40:50

I remember it was probably in Grimsby about 15 years ago

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and it was a great big huge French jardiniere, that was Grimsby then,

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but I've got to tell you know that as of today, I think it might be this.

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-Because this is worth...

-You're joking?

0:41:020:41:05

Well, it's worth a mere £25,000.

0:41:050:41:07

Oh, my God!

0:41:070:41:09

Now, we've had a lot of clouds over here today. You know that, don't you?

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And they do say that every cloud has a silver lining.

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I can honestly say that we've only had one cloud with a silver lining

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and it's your vase.

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Now, tell me about your loft.

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LAUGHTER

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No, I don't think I will.

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Quite a moment for Eric.

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He tells me he's been waiting a mere 27 years for such a moment

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and I think there'll be a bit of a celebration in one Ayrshire home tonight.

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Before we close, just time to hear about something of a new beginning.

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The rescue of this house by the Heritage Trust

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that was set up to look after Dumfries House doesn't end here.

0:41:480:41:52

The Trust is keen to ensure it continues to play an important role

0:41:520:41:55

in revitalising the economy of this region,

0:41:550:41:58

it's an enterprise close to the heart of the Prince of Wales.

0:41:580:42:02

I felt that here's an opportunity

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to see if we can begin the regeneration process

0:42:050:42:08

for an area which has... which suffers from great disadvantage in East Ayrshire,

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a former mining community,

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all the mines have closed and it just seemed to me here was

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a real chance to do something worthwhile

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and to link the local community with the house.

0:42:240:42:28

It all hinges on this enabling development

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on the edge of Cumnock, which is the local town and I want to try and see

0:42:330:42:38

if we can do a version of what we've already been doing

0:42:380:42:43

with the Duchy of Cornwall on the edge of Dorchester at Poundbury

0:42:430:42:47

and you know, mix used development

0:42:470:42:50

to try and bring in, you know, extra employment

0:42:500:42:57

and new people and to improve the environment and to link that

0:42:570:43:02

extension to Cumnock and Auchinleck with, you know, the grounds here

0:43:020:43:07

so that you actually create something really worthwhile.

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That's the aim, if it can be done well.

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And if we can keep it going,

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and not have to sell the furniture eventually

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because we haven't got any money, that will be a success.

0:43:190:43:22

Your Royal Highness, thank you very much.

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It's been quite a visit to Dumfries House, with special guests and some unexpected finds.

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Thanks to all those who joined us.

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From Ayrshire, until next time, bye-bye.

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