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It's happy birthday to our Roadshow mascot... | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
the Morris Minor - it's 60 this year and far from fading into memory | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
it's enjoying something of a revival as an icon of British innovation. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from its birthplace...Oxford. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Hertford is one of the oldest colleges in Oxford, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
dating back to the 13th century, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
and it was one of the first to welcome women students. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
Good thing too - I spent three very happy years here. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
It was like suddenly being transported | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
onto the set of Brideshead Revisited. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
I was continually struck by the sheer beauty of the place. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
In the grandeur of the Bodleian Library | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
I could read any book I wanted, from Dickens to Dante. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
I could stroll through the Sheldonian where I finally graduated | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
and my student essays might have been thrown together | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
at the last minute, but I could scribble them in the splendour | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
of the Radcliffe Camera right next to my college, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
before seeking vital refreshment in the pub of course. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
One of my abiding memories of my time here | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
is being asleep in my room, usually till about midday, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
and then being woken up by hordes of tourists right under my window. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
They'd all come to see the room | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
of the famous author Evelyn Waugh, just here. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
And he wasn't the only well-known alumnus. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
There's been a bit of a rash of newsreaders here... | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Natasha Kaplinsky, Krishnan Guru-Murthy... | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
I've been known to do a bit of that myself. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Must be something in the water. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
And yes, here I am, looking proud as punch with fellow students | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
at the end of my first term. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:18 | |
OK, bad hair, but it was the '80s. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
All in all, this has the promise of a nostalgic day | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
as we welcome visitors to the quad at my old college, Hertford. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
With the help of the people of Oxford, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
it should bring back a few memories. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
A dear aunt always had it on her sideboard | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
in all my years of growing up and we called it "Auntie's Beetle Vase". | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
She came by it in about 1937. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
She took in lodgers from Oxford University and some of them | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
I believe were quite well-to-do | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
titled gentlemen and as a means of thanking her, when they left | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
and went down from the university, they gave her gifts | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and I'm thinking that perhaps that was one such gift. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
That fits in because this has never, ever been a cheap piece of glass, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
this has always been frankly an outstanding piece. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
It's art glass by the Daum factory in France. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
We know that, it's no secret | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
-because the name of the factory, Daum... -Right. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
-..is the name of two brothers who founded the factory. -Yes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Nancy is the town where they worked. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
-Yes. -And this was made about 1910 in Art Nouveau style. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
It's a complex piece of glass. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
A series of layers of glass were formed, blown together | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
with successive layers, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
one colour dipped into a furnace to pick up another colour. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
-Right. -And then repeated to kind of get a gobstopper effect... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Right. -..of concentric colours. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
It was taken out of the mould and whilst it was still hot, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
these moulded forms of beetles were placed onto the hot glass, | 0:03:56 | 0:04:02 | |
so the beetles were heated up, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
a little bit of foil has been placed on the glass... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
-Right. -..and then a second piece of glass laid on top, and all of these | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
-differently coloured beasties were laid onto the hot glass. -Right. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
And then the whole lot was cooled. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
All together, a pretty swanky piece of glass and a very nice present. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
Daum is a highly sought-after factory and its value today | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
would be in the realms of | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
- you selling at auction, this is - | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
-£5,000. -Good heavens! | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
How about that then? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
Well, she'd be very pleased if she were alive, to know that today. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
She had no idea, I think, that it was valuable, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
-we just loved it as children. -Best thing. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
I spend quite a bit of my time going around charity shops | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
because you never know what you might find. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
I know you work in a charity shop. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-Don't tell me this is from the charity shop. -It is. -It is. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
Where did it come from? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
I actually went to buy a few bits of china to sell in the charity shop. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
-Right. -And I went to a local little auction | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and bought a box of miscellaneous china for £3. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
Including this, for £3? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-That was in the bottom of it. -When was this? 1940-something or...? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
-Oh, no, no, it was about March this year. -Right. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Afterwards can you tell me the name of this little auction place? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
Well, I'm amazed, it's a lovely piece of Wemyss pottery, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
which I think you know, it's clearly marked on the back "Wemyss Ware, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
"RH&S" - Robert Heron and Sons. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
And it's just really a super piece. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
What made you think this shouldn't go in the charity shop at £3.50, say? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-We didn't. -Somebody took an instant dislike to it, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and came up to me with a broken heart | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
and said, "I'm sorry I can't fit it in the bin," | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
and I said, "Well, you can't just do that, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
"we need to research and see who... where it's come from," | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
so I went on the internet and found out who Wemyss are. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Thank goodness you did - this could have gone in the bin? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Yes...because it wouldn't fit. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-Too small a bin. -Thank goodness for small bins in Oxford. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
-That's exactly what I said. -Well, it's a gorgeous piece. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
It isn't signed but I'm confident it was painted by Karel Nekola, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-the main artist at the factory. -I thought it was. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
The way he's painted the bird and the leaves and this very free style | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
he's done is typical of him. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
It was made for a "Nellie"... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Nellie could be anybody | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
and it's something which is going to be worth a little bit more than £3. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-We thought it might be. -So I am quite confident, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
in a specialist Wemyss sale, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
-this would be making somewhere in the region of £800 to £1,200. -What? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:42 | |
-That's great. -Wow! | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
So now you know it's worth a little bit more than £3, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
-what are you going to do with it? -Well, maybe into an auction. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
-And then? -And the money, Helen Douglas House, every penny. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
So that's a good profit on £3. What does Helen Douglas House do? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
-It's a children's hospice. -That's a very good cause. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
I'd better give it back to you, in that case, | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
and don't put it back in the bin. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-I won't drop it, thank you. -It's a pleasure. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
-These are two pieces of jewellery, they're both brooches. -Yes. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
But they are so extraordinarily colourful, they're so vivid. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Tell me a little bit about them. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Well, I think I was given that one from my mother, she had it first, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
but she didn't wear it actually, and I've worn it a great deal. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
This one I haven't worn so much because it's very heavy, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
it's rather bad for the clothes as well, makes a hole, you see. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
Let's just have a look at it and discuss what it's made of. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Um, the immediate response when you see it | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
is that it's a painting, but it isn't, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
-it's a prime example of 19th-century mosaic. -Yes. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
It's Florentine mosaic and we have a name for it, it's called pietra dura. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
-Dura, yeah. -And what they're made of, all these little coloured stones | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
are individual hard stones - chalcedony, sard, lapis lazuli... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
-that's the blue ones there. -Wonderful. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Now they've inset them artfully, skilfully, in black Belgian slate. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:13 | |
Oh, really? How interesting. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
And then they've taken the plaque and they have mounted it | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
-in a bright yellow gold frame, 1865-1870. -Right. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
Can I just turn it round and you can see that the gold | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
is a solid gold plate at the back. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
-Yes. -In a dish-shaped frame. -I see. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
-So this is a good piece of jewellery. -Yes. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
-Can I move on to the next piece? -Yes, please. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Tell me a bit about this brooch. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Well, I wear that quite often when I have something it looks right on, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
which I haven't for a little while. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Well, in about 1825-1830, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
this was the era of very gushy jewellery, where you would have | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
-these wonderful expressions of sentiment and love. -Yes. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
So for instance things like hearts, keys, padlocks, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
little cupids with bows and this sort of thing... | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
and they're supposed to convey the great love and sentiment | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
that I feel towards you. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
-Yes. -Each gem has its own particular resonance... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
turquoise for forget-me-nots, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
rubies for passion, marigolds for jealousy... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
the language of flowers, you see. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Now if you take the first letter | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
of each of these little gem-set drops, starting off with ruby... | 0:09:21 | 0:09:27 | |
R-E-G-A-R-D... | 0:09:27 | 0:09:33 | |
so ruby, there's a diamond at the end, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-there's a smattering of colourful gems... -Yeah. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
..all with their own significance, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
so, you know, a lovely message of love and sentiment, "regard", | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
or it could be "dearest" | 0:09:43 | 0:09:44 | |
-or it could be your name spelt out in gemstones. -Really? I've not seen one. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
Turn it over, there's a tiny little locket-backed compartment there | 0:09:48 | 0:09:54 | |
to put a little tiny plume of hair, so it's got all the ingredients. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-Yes, yes. -Have they been valued before? -No. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
I think that the mosaic brooch today, in that condition... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
£1,500 to £2,000. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-Good, yes. -Now that's good. -Yes. -But then you look at this piece here. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
-Yes. -And this is so charming and so delicate, and so sensitive. -Yes. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
-I think if this was sold you're looking at about £2,500. -Right, yes. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
-So you know you say that you wear it all the time? -Yes. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
-Take care of it. -Oh, yes. -It's a beauty. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
-I am very careful of it. -Thank you very much. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
This was fast turning out to be a day of surprises | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
for visitors to Hertford College and for me too. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
It's years since I was a student here but across a crowded quad | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
I spotted my French tutor Anne | 0:10:43 | 0:10:44 | |
-chatting to one of our specialists. -Yes, I think... | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Now, sorry to interrupt but here is a face I recognise, my tutor. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Oh, hello, Fiona, fancy seeing you. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-How nice to see you. Goodness me. -Wonderful to see you, yes. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
I'm amazed you remember me, I was a deeply unremarkable student. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
I remember you very well, no, no, that is just not at all true. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
-Is it not? -I remember the papers you took | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
-and how well you did. -Oh, that's very nice of you. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
I always guessed that you were going places, and I was right, wasn't I? | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
That's very sweet of you to say so, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
not with French, as it turned out... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
What about Italian, do you use Italian more or...? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
I used it when I was a reporter on news programmes and Newsnight, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
but no, not that much. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
I'm sure it was helpful to have it, wasn't it? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
It was helpful to have it. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
-Wide culture and all that... -How amazing to see you. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-..Oxford provides. -I've got a little confession | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
which just comes to mind now I've seen you. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
I remember once...you were always so kind when I was a student... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
and I remember in my first term, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
I hadn't done my essay and I was really upset about it | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
and I went in and I was a bit tearful and you said... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
you were so nice, you said, "Is it problems at home?", | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
and I thought, "That sounds better than 'I haven't done my essay'," | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
so I said, "Yes," and I've felt guilty about it ever since. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Well, I remember that you suggested | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
the college should have a woman's tutor who looked after the women. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-Yes, I did. -And now the college does... | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
two in fact, for undergraduates and graduates, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
it's become a great industry, I mean, a great thing. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Those were my "radfem" days as they say. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
You felt that the person's tutor shouldn't be the person you went to | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
with your troubles... I know you did, but those were minor troubles. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
When you had big troubles you should have someone quite different and so | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
we instituted that and I remember | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
-you asked me if I would be that. -I did, yes. Ah... | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
And now it's in all, you know, it's online and everywhere. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
-So I started something. -You started something. -Oh. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
So you see, you were a remarkable student. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
No, I certainly wasn't... but it's very lovely to see you. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Well, it's lovely to see you, absolutely lovely. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Well, he's wearing a crown, but when you look at him, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
he's hardly the king of bears. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
He's the tiniest, sweetest bear, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
which sits very comfortably in the palm of my hand. Now do you love him? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:52 | |
Well, I love him and I have known him for a long time, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-but I've never owned him and he's not mine now actually. -Oh. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-He's in my care. -Now tell me who owns him then. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
Well, my sister, who's older than I am, and the story is... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
and I know it's true because I was very young at the time, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
she actually found him and, um... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-In what circumstances? -Well, she was walking along, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I think it was about Broadstairs or Ramsgate, along the coastline, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
and he was in a Kilner jar. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
No! A message in a bottle. Sort of. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Well, there was a piece of paper evidently | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
but the writing had gone, so that wouldn't... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
And in the family he's been known as "Kilner". | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
So he's got a bit of a chequered history, we don't know, but... | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
It's interesting because looking at him, first of all, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
he's wearing this crown but he's also wearing something else | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
which is sort of faded green and yellow striped braid | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
and on it is something that looks remarkably like a BP logo... | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
British Petroleum... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:51 | |
Now I'm not sure whether BP ever made a sort of promotional bear... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
maybe they did. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
Well, my sister assumed it was BP petrol, and it gets better, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:02 | |
because she actually took that to a BP petrol station | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
and went in and asked if anybody knows about BP bears, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
and in doing so, she actually met her husband. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
-No! -It was absolutely incredible | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
and the bear brought them together and they were together for 43 years. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
That's the most remarkable story. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
In a way he shouldn't be called Kilner, he should be called Cupid. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
-Yes. -So this must have been in the '50s that she found him. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
-Yes, it was about... -Well, he would have been new then. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
-Yeah. -He's a bear dating from the 1950s, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
he's made by a company called Schuco, a German company | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
who made all kinds of toys | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
and may be part of a little-known BP publicity or advertising campaign. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
I would have said that the value's going to be around £200, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
perhaps between 200 and 250. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
-Really? How lovely. -And who knows, if there's a soft-hearted somebody | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
-out there who loves the story, it could go for even more. -Incredible. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
But a dear little bear-shaped cupid... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-How lovely. -..with a wonderful story to tell. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
It's a big autograph album. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
-It's a heavy one. -And roughly how many autographs are there in there? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-There must be at least 500. -Really? And where did it come from? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
My father collected them for the whole of his life, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
from the 1920s...early 1920s in Calcutta where he was born. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
-Right. -He was Indian, and then he moved on to New York... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-Right. -..and then... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
South America and then finally London, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
so he travelled all over the world | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
and this never seemed to go far from him. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
If we open it up to some of the people that are in here, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-we have Mahatma Gandhi. -Oh, right. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Can you tell me, do you know how he got Gandhi's signature? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Yes, I do, this was one of his favourite stories. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
I gather he spent three whole days outside a hall | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
where Gandhi was in a conference and failed for the first two days | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
-and I think a security guard took pity on him the third day... -Yes. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
..and let him stand by the door where Gandhi was coming out | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
and Gandhi then said he didn't sign autographs, so my father... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
rather rashly...pointed out he had the Earl of Lytton who I think | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
was the Viceroy of India, and the Governor General... | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
two earls...and Gandhi's reply apparently was, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
"Then you don't want a scavenger like me in this book," | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
and signed in Sanskrit, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
which did disappoint Dad and he asked him if he'd sign in English, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
-but he said, "I'm not English, why should I?" -Absolutely. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
But he compromised on the date, the date was in English. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Yes, 5th November 1924, and if we just go on a few, a few more further, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
we have here a collection of British Prime Ministers, well-known ones. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
Jim Callaghan on the left, Winston Churchill obviously from 1932 | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
above Edward Heath, and then, if we look over the page... | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
..here we have Margaret Thatcher. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Dad wasn't well by then, this was his very last autograph, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
my brother went to Downing Street to do this. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
-Right. -But the story is that he had given firm instructions | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
to my brother to get Margaret Thatcher to sign here... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-four British Prime Ministers. -Right. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
When it came back...he thought it was something to do with not signing | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
by a Labour politician, a Labour Prime Minister. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
I think...my hunch always was that | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
she didn't want to sign opposite Edward Heath. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
-Yes, nothing to do with him. -That's my feeling, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
so anyway, opposite, she could sign opposite FDR instead | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
which might... she might have preferred. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
And from here we go forward | 0:17:31 | 0:17:32 | |
to one of your father's great disappointments, I understand. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
This was. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
He asked...he took it to the embassy to get John Kennedy to sign, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
and Jackie, and Jackie signed and he did meet her | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
and she said that she was really sorry, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
the President had heard about the book, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
thought it was wonderful, was going to sign it | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
and then some crisis and couldn't | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
but that when they next came to London, which was due quite soon... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
-Yes. -..to contact her rather than the secretary, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
and she would make sure he signed it... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-and of course in the meantime he was assassinated. -Yes. -So, um... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
-So it's dated 1961. -Yeah, mm... | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
What a shame! | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
One of the few he missed out, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
-but you've still got 500-odd signatures here. -Yes. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
Musicians, politicians, historical figures, literary figures as well. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
There are some very important and some valuable signatures in here. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Churchill's signature, on its own, for example, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
is worth £300, £400 or £500 just on its own. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
-Oh, I didn't realise that. -A Gandhi signature, likewise, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
can be worth £400, £500, £600 on its own, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
but, overall, what you're looking at probably is somewhere in the region | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
of £4,000 to £6,000 if you were to sell it at auction. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
A beautiful piece of carved wood. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
Where did you get it and what's its history? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
It's my father's and it was my grandfather's before that | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
-but I don't know how he got it. -Do you know what it is? -No. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
That's why I'm here. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Glad to be of service. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
Well, as soon as you pulled this out of the bag, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I thought, "That's a wonderful bit of carving," | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
and it comes from a culture | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
that's perhaps one of the most warlike of cultures | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
and we're looking towards the Polynesian peoples, New Zealand. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
-Right. -The Maori. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
So how did it get over here? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
I was hoping you were going to tell me that, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
-but you don't know. -No, I don't. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
That's the wonderful, speculative quality | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
of many things we see on the Roadshow. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-And where do you keep it? -I keep it by my front door. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
-Ah, useful. -To ward off unwanted visitors. -Fair comment. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
The reason I knew it was Maori | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
-was because of these very distinct, tight scrolls. -Right. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
The Maori settled New Zealand some sort of 3,000 years ago | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
and, of course, their art is extremely powerful | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
and they have incredible, supernatural sort of mythologies | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
about the creation, about the creation of woman and nature, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
and they put all this force and energy into their art. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
But, of course, being warlike this has a very specific function. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
It's sadly for clubbing people so the choice of timber is crucial. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:14 | |
It's tight-grained hardwood, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
which would obviously take a nice, crisp carving, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
but it was designed to literally bludgeon somebody on the temple, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
perhaps you'd take somebody's jaw off with it, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
and the pointed end for perhaps going into their ribs, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
-so it is pretty nasty. -Yes, it is pretty nasty. -But the one thing | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
that really lifts this is the fact that it's dated and...1844 | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
and, of course, any Polynesian carvings that carry a date are rare. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
-Yes. -Many aren't dated, there was no tradition of writing | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
for the Maoris until the sort of Western settlers came, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
and, of course, there are names on this. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
We have Sanit 1844, J Watt Gabit | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
and, on the other face, J Gash and the date 1844, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
and various other sort of references. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Somewhere in the records, perhaps in New Zealand, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
these names and the dates will all come together. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
These were worn ready for use on the waist by the Maori tribesmen and... | 0:21:14 | 0:21:20 | |
so it's a powerful thing, but what's it worth? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
It's just a bit of old carved wood. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
If I was putting this in a sale, I'd put an estimate of £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
-That much? -That much. -Gosh. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
If you've been paying attention this series, you'll notice | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
I have throughout asked experts if - | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
heaven forfend - their house went up in flames | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
and they had to run out clutching two precious objects, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
what would they be? I see what you've brought, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
this is clearly cheating, so let's come to this in a minute. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Tell me about this one first of all. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Well, this is a Chinese bronze which I spotted in an auction house. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
I'd never looked at bronzes seriously, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
and I picked this up and I thought, "This is just fantastic." | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Just look at these t'ien-lung, which are sea dragons, sinewy dragons. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
This one's got a phoenix's head. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
There's one round here with a horse's head and so it goes. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Um, and I thought, "That's... I've got to have that." | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
It dates about 1680, somewhere around there, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:33 | |
and I love it, it's fantastic. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
Is this one of your chosen objects just because you love it, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
which is a good enough reason, or is there more to it? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
There's more to it because it set me off | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
in a completely different direction, which was to look at bronzes, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
and I started buying them, often for not an awful lot of money. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:56 | |
Are you trying to sell me this idea | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
that this is all a whole of some kind? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-This is the scholar's table. -The scholar's table? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
These are small objects which the Chinese scholar would have about him. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
He divorces himself from the hurly-burly of life | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
and he goes off to a mountain retreat and there he looks at the sunset | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
and the mountains and the pine trees and then he comes back | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
and he writes his poetry, you see, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and he has on the table a weight to hold the scroll down, he has... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
..to rest his brush on, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
and he has objects to put powdered incense into his censer | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
and there would never... | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
no scholar would ever put this number of objects together. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
-I mean, oh, dear, no. -Too cluttered. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
A few very carefully selected objects. But I'm a Westerner. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
-This is my second object. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
He is a paperweight, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
he's made of bronze and he's a dog, a sort of slightly odd-looking dog. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
-And what is it about him that makes him so special? -Do you love him? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
-Does he appeal to you? -He's snarling at me, David. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
-No, he's not. -He is! Look! -No, he's not, he's arrogant. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
But what is it? So why is he your second item? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Because I love the way he sits there beside me, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
because these sit beside my PC when I'm working, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
and he's got his nose in the air and he's looking down at me | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
and saying, "What do you think you are? I've been around for 450 years. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
"You're nothing!" So he's absolutely perfect, I'll take him with me. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
-Thank you very much. -Not at all. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
It's most unusual to get American pop art at an Antiques Roadshow. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
How come you've got these? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Well, my mother gave them to me for my 17th birthday in 1970. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
She got them from a London art gallery and she was interested | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
in modern art and she was also with Dennis Bailey, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
who was a really good graphic artist at the time. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
But when I was splitting up from my boyfriend, he wanted a heart, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
and so I said to him, "OK, you can have one," | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
so I gave it to him and then my mother said, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
"You've got to get it back. What are you talking about?" | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
I said, "Look, I have to have my heart back," | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
and so he did, reluctantly, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
but since then I never would split them up. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
He broke your heart, so it's mad to have given him your heart. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Yeah, it was, yeah. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Well, I'm very glad you've got it back. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Jim Dine was an American pop artist, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
perhaps now not considered in the first rank with people like Warhol, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
but in his day he was absolutely up there with the rest of them | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
-and he was also a member of the neo-Dada movement. -Yeah. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
-And he certainly, certainly... -True surrealist he was, yeah. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
True surrealist, exactly. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
He also was a man who did a lot of graphic art | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
and the lithographs that you've got here | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
are part of a series of hearts. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
-He stuck with hearts and skulls and... -Yeah. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
-..clothing as well. -Mmm. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
-And tools. -And tools. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
-One wonders why he got fixated on all these things but anyway he did. -Yeah. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
When your mother bought them for your 17th, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
-do you know how much she paid for them? -Yeah, she paid... It was 200. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
-In London at the time. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
-Not a lot of money. -No. -Maybe it was a lot of money in 1970. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
Well, yeah, it seemed a lot at the time, for my 17th birthday. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
-"Oh, my God!" Seemed like a fortune. -Well, and you obviously love them. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-Absolutely. -They're extremely popular even today and, of course, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
a heart motif is perfect for the reasons your mother gave it to you. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
And now I have them over my fireplace and one is me, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
one is my husband, one is my son. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-Perfect. You wouldn't want to get rid of one of them now? -No, I wouldn't. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
I love them all and really I love them all together. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Exactly. So together, she paid 200. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
This one, on its own, makes roughly 2,000 today. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
-Yeah. -So... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
you know, the set I suppose would probably sell | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
for somewhere around £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
-Right, right. -So a jolly nice... -Just hold on to them. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
Imagine how much they would have diminished | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
by giving one away to your boyfriend. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
Well, yeah, and anyway it would have destroyed the whole point. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Well, I'm glad your mother talked you into taking it back. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
This is a slightly odd bowl to be here. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Really? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Yeah. Where did it come from? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
It's from Japan. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
-In what sense? -My husband bought it. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
Ah, OK, your husband bought it in Japan. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
He saw it in an antiques market. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
-Oh, did he? -Yes. -And what did he pay for it? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-About £50, I believe. -How long ago? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
-1985. -OK. What it is is not for the export market. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:58 | |
This is for indigenous consumption | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
and why it's slightly odd to find it here. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
We've got a barbed rim, that's come from China | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
which eventually came from the Middle East metalwork. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:15 | |
It's come all the way through to here. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
We've got on the back | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
six characters. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
"Ta ming cheng hua nien chih..." | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
"Made in the great Ming dynasty of the Emperor Cheng Hua". | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
-He was a 15th-century emperor. -Ming? | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-That's what the mark says. -Oh. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
You can never trust marks. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
This is the Japanese putting on a Chinese mark | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
to say that this is really a prestigious piece. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
This curious cogwheel on here | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
comes from a class of Japanese porcelain called Nabeshima | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
which was made only for the Emperor and for the Daimios in Nabeshima. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:09 | |
Why it's on here I don't know, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
but it does slightly tie up with the front - | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
this wonderful gnarled pine tree in underglaze blue, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:22 | |
and the pine tree is symbolic of old age and everlasting life. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:28 | |
They've painted the pine needles here like real pine needles, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
but they've filled in the background | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
with a pine needle stylised decoration. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
It's just right. I'm hugely envious. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
It's got slight condition problem here | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
but it's...it is just... it is just a joy, that dish. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
-You haven't asked me when it dates from. -I'm waiting for you... | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
I'm waiting for you to tell me. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Well, it dates from about 1680. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
It's a very old bit of Japanese porcelain made at Arita | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
-for indigenous consumption and not a common thing to see at all. -Really? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
I think if it was sold here today, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
given that the market's flat as a pancake, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
you would still get £800 to £1,500 for it. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
Really? | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
So his £50 was very well spent. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
It was worth bringing back from Japan. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
I would send him back on the next plane. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
"If you these hieroglyphs discover, you fix for life a worthy lover." | 0:30:46 | 0:30:54 | |
This is one of the most charming early-19th-century love letters | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
that I think I've ever seen. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
It's made out of pieces of cut paper and I think it's absolutely charming. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
I mean, I can read some of it. Can you read all of it? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
No, we've tried many times. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
My husband remembers it being in his grandmother's house | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
when he was a child, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
but we've had so many people looking at it, haven't we, Jane? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
If we've had friends or relatives round | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
we've asked if they understand any of it, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
and sometimes we get an odd line or a word, but not the whole letter. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
Well, it's a fabulous Valentine | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
and I would put it in about the period of about 1830-1835, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:35 | |
so let's try and read it. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
A heart... | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
T and a hat - that, of-10, often, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
-has... This is a purse or a basket of some sort. -Yes. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
Purse-yew-d... | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
pursued...the... | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
and this is a chap on horseback so it's probably a knight - | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
the night dancing of ewer eye... | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
-dancing of your eye, something like that anyway. -Yes. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-But it's absolutely charming. -Yes. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
And then finally, the last line reads... | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
-Cupid's... -I wonder whether this last line could be grace, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:15 | |
because it's got a G and then people running. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
-Could that be a race? -Race, yes, Cupid's grace then, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
and this figure here is Hope. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
She's got an anchor, you see. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
Hope a... Then what about two cows? | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
-What...? -Cowed... -Cows, cows. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
-Cowed. -Cowed reply, which I think is absolutely charming. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:38 | |
It's quite glorious and the work is incredibly detailed | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
and he used a pin, as you can see in this purse, U. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
There's a U. I think that is very humorous | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
and absolutely lovely and very typical of its period. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
Um, where do you keep it? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-In the bathroom, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
What's it doing in the bathroom? | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
-It's just a novelty piece if we have visitors. -Oh, come along. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
That is going to get damp. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
-I'd take it out of the bathroom. -Right. -I wouldn't have it in there. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
-Value. Any ideas? -Well, it's a fun thing. -Not at all really. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
We've had so much fun, I should think at least 100. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
Well, I think we can probably do about two - | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
£200, and it is one of the most charming things I've seen. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
-Yes, yes. -Thank you. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
So here we have a German enamelled beer beaker from 1716, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
the written date on it, which I'm sure is absolutely right, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
gloriously enamelled but with a huge amount of damage on it. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
Did you do this to this, you hooligan? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
No, it's in better condition than it was when I bought it. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
It looked as if it had been stuck together with chewing gum. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
I took it to pieces very gingerly and I have stuck it together... | 0:33:47 | 0:33:52 | |
-..but you can see the sticky tape. -It could do | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
with a bit of a wash, a careful wash. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
-I have cleaned it! -Well, give it a better one, then! | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
It's beautiful, it really is a lovely piece of glass. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
German, the Hapsburg eagle here, all the emblems of various families. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:12 | |
It's all done by powdering densely coloured glass, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
mixing it with lavender oil and painting all this onto the surface | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
and then firing it on. So other than... I normally say | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
you can't damage enamelled glass | 0:34:26 | 0:34:27 | |
unless it's chucked under a steamroller. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
This has clearly been chucked under a steamroller | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
but still survives to tell the tale | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
and I'm sure that everybody | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
can see the very, very rich quality of that piece. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
So how much did you pay for it? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
£10 in a sort of junk shop in Colchester. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
Ten pounds in a junk shop in Colchester becomes, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
because of its quality, £400 to £500 today. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
-Oh, really? -Well, that's not bad, is it? -No, no. -Lovely thing. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Well, I think it's lovely, yes. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
On the right we have what looks like a distinguished English aristocrat | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
and on the left we've got a Russian worker, or peasant. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
What's the connection between these two people? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
The only connection between these two people is that both pictures | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
belonged to my late aunt and uncle. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
-Ah, so you inherited them? -I did indeed, yes. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
The picture on the right, signed C Pollock - | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
now do you know who C Pollock is? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Yes, he's the eldest brother of Jackson Pollock. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
He was known to my aunt and uncle in America in the early 1930s | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
and I think he was doing other work like that at the time, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I seem to recollect having seen some, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
so he just drew a picture of my uncle. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Well, the name has such huge resonance | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-but unfortunately it's the wrong first name. -Absolutely. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
Isn't it extraordinary that a man who's known for squidgy paint, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
that abstract expressionism, whose family can produce | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
rather more lucid, traditional images like this? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
Now let's have a look at the man on the left. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
You grew up with this, did you, with your aunt? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
Yes, yes, it was above her fireplace for all my younger years, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
in fact most of my life. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
-I always admired it. -It looks like it's been above a fireplace. -Yes. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
It's pretty filthy, isn't it? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
It's, um, not had anything much done to it, no. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
-You've seen the signature in the bottom right... -Yes. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
-..which is of course Cyrillic, being a Russian signature. -Yes. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
-And you know the artist? -Er, yes, it's Ilya Repin. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
The way you say the name suggests you do know | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
that he is quite a significant artist. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
I know he's particularly well known in Russia, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
he's regarded there as, I think, as a Russian master | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
and painted mostly in the second half of the 19th century, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
this being a rather later work. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
In the 19th century he was what could be described as | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
a great realist painter, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
he's someone who embraced society, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
who expressed it for all its terse realism. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
And he spent some time in France as well, he knocked around with Manet, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
he was influenced by Delacroix, so there was a fusion | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
of quite a lot of Russian realism and a certain amount of French spice | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
-in his work. -Right. Yes. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
If we look at the date in the bottom right-hand corner, 1919, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
he was in Finland. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
Finland was part of the Russian Empire, but it's the date | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
that's so interesting, 1919. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
This is one of the most emotive moments in Russian history. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
The Communist Party has just got going, civil war is raging | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
and the proletariat of course were at the core of it. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
This is the new Russia. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
And this figure | 0:37:38 | 0:37:39 | |
- I'm trying to work out what he's doing and what he's holding - | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
seems to be a worker of some kind. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Yes, I always saw it as steelworks or something like that. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
What looks like a rather rough sketch | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
I think can be explained for two reasons. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
I think it's an unfinished work, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
I think it relates to something probably rather grander | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
and rather more ambitious, | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
and the technique used, the thick impasto on the face, is very typical | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
of the sort of work that Repin was doing, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
again influenced by the French impressionists | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
and it's almost as if he's using the paint | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
to express the emotions of this painful birth of Russia. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Well, I think that the Pollock | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
is a charming example of Pollock's brother, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
but it's a good, solid drawing and it's worth £200 to £300. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
-OK. -Er, I think the painting on the left, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
well, you've got to remember now that Russian painting is all the rage. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
We used to talk about American millionaires making a difference, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
it's now Russian oligarchs who are fuelling the market. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
This painting on the left is worth up to about two hundred - | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
£200,000, that is. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:38:58 | 0:38:59 | |
I had absolutely no idea it was worth anything like that. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
I'm shattered, I don't know what to say, I just don't know what to say. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
Photographs of the Beatles, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
but not photographs of the Beatles that I recognise, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
and actually photographs of the... | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
looks like sort of, I don't know, floor staff | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
in a television studio filling in during the lighting run-through. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
Well, it was a show done at Teddington Studios. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
You were involved with the studios? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
-I was employed there, yes, in the sound department. -Right. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Um, and I worked on this show. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
They'd just come back from America, I think, | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
and it was a sort of, like, "welcome home" type of show, I think, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
so I took my camera along with me and I managed to get these shots. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:57 | |
We've got photographs of Ringo and of John and George. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:03 | |
Oh, this is nice because this is actually in the studio itself | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
and you can see the cameras there, the lights and so on. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Yes. But the big thing was that | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
the little girls were all outside in the road outside the studio... | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
-The Beatle maniacs, yes. -..completely blocking the road. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
The gates were locked, we were locked in for the day. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
-But how did they get in? -Teddington Studios has river frontage | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
with the Thames, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
so they brought them up the river | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
-and we featured that in the programme. -Fantastic. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
As far as I can see, you own the copyright on this. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Well, I presume so, yes. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
It was your own camera. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-Yes. -It was your own film. -Yes. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
And you've got how many of them? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
There's 20 there altogether. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
OK, and these obviously are just prints but from the originals... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
-From the original slides, yes. -..which are these. -Yes. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Let's just open these up. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
And on the top up here we can actually just see, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-very small, it says, "February '64." -Yes. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
Now I've seen a lot of Beatle photographs over the years | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
and, you know, a lot of the images are known, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
they're published, they're not terribly exciting. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
Interesting to come across something that hasn't been seen before. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
These haven't. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
You own the copyright, which then means that you can use them | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
for anything you like, in theory, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
you could make calendars out of them, you could make posters out of them, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
you could use them for anything, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
and that makes them very interesting financially. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
Have you gone into the likely value at all? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
No, I haven't, not at all. In fact they've been in my loft for 40 years | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
and it was only when I mentioned it to my son-in-law that he said, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
"Well, why don't you go and find out how much they're worth?", you know. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
OK, so this is the dowry, is it? | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
Well, that's right. Yes. In a way, yes. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
-He's hoping this is going to be the dowry. -Yes, yes. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
Without copyright, these are interesting but not exciting. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:14 | |
They would be worth perhaps £100 each, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
probably less than that actually. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
But with the ability to use these for anything you want to, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:26 | |
ie with the copyright, I would put them up to around £500 each. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:32 | |
-For each picture? -Yeah. -Gosh. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
Now I don't know how good your maths is, but I make that around £10,000. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
Yes. Crikey, I hadn't expected that much at all, no. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
Well, they're great images, they are very rare | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
and you can do something with them. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
It's a magic and a very successful mixture. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
The sun has shone on us at Hertford College, Oxford | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
and we've had some amazing discoveries. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
What about the painting that hung over a fireplace for 50 years | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and you thought it was worth what? | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
£10,000, maybe £15,000 if I was lucky. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
And it turned out to be worth...? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
-£200,000. -So what did you think? That's amazing. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
Well, I was gobsmacked, I think is the word. Very difficult to believe. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
I've really not got over the shock. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
I bet! What will you do with it? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Well, I've been advised to wait a few weeks | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
and think about what I'm going to do, so nothing for a little while. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
-It was certainly worth you coming in today. -It was indeed. -I'll say. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow in Oxford, bye-bye. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 |