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This week we set off on an expedition to the most easterly edge of Britain.

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Imagine a triangle with Great Yarmouth, Lowestoft and Norwich at the far points.

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Well, we are in the middle of it.

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Welcome to Somerleyton Hall in the beautiful Suffolk landscape.

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Home makeovers ain't what they used to be.

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Take Somerleyton Hall for example,

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it used to be just your run of the mill 16th century pile, bit on the plain side, and then,

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just after Queen Victoria perches herself on the throne, a builder with ambition and a few pounds,

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buys it, and hey presto, a spectacular country house appears.

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Behind the transformation was Morton Peto,

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a self-made millionaire who built the Houses of Parliament and Nelson's Column.

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In the process his company became the world's largest employer of labourers.

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Peto was a devout Baptist with a dream to turn his country home

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into his very own earthly paradise,

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so he employed the top names and brands from the Victorian world of design.

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Part of his social circle was Prince Albert, who recommended John Thomas,

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a designer with an ordinary sounding name,

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but an extraordinary imagination which he unleashed on Somerleyton Hall,

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giving it its extravagant flora and fauna stone work.

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The top horologist of the day and clock maker to four monarchs,

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Benjamin Vulliamy designed

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a prototype model clock for Big Ben in the 1840's.

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Although the model was rejected, Peto built this magnificent tower for it instead.

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Peto's efforts to transform his home into an earthly paradise were a great success and in the process

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he built one of the finest mazes in Britain, but sadly he suffered a major credit crunch to the tune

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of four million pounds, when his bank went bust, and even worse...

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he had to sell Somerleyton.

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Phew! 'In stepped the present incumbent,

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'the Crossley family from Halifax, whose fortune was made by inventing a technique to mass produce carpets.

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'They've been here for 150 years and have kindly invited us to their Victorian designer heaven.

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'Over to our specialists.'

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Well, where on earth did you a jewel that looks like that?

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I found it at a car boot sale a couple of months ago.

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What were you doing at the boot sale? Why did you go?

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I went because I had a fall on the Thursday and I had a painful knee and I could hardly walk

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and my husband likes them, so I said, "OK, we'll go and I'll sit in the car,"

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and I thought, "No, I can't sit in the car because if I do, he'll take me to the hospital,"

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and I didn't want to land up in the hospital with a poor knee, so I thought, "OK, we'll go,"

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so he got out and off he went and I thought, "Get out of the car and make it to the first stall,"

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which is what I did. And I saw the box.

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And what did you think? I mean, was the box closed, was that...?

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Yes, it was closed, I just picked it up, I thought,

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"Ooh, interesting," opened it up, looked at it and just said, "How much is that, please?"

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so she said, "£5," so quickly I gave it to her and went and sat back in the car.

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This is the most marvellous looking thing.

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It's a jewel in the Renaissance taste.

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It's got curious parallels with the building behind us because that's also in the Renaissance taste.

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-Oh.

-It's almost the same age as the building behind us.

-Is it?

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They're both expressions of 19th century historicism really,

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this is in the Renaissance taste, that's in the Renaissance taste,

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-that's a bit smaller than that, but it's one and the same message.

-Oh.

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It's the sort of jewel that would have been worn

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by the girls who were swirling round the dance floor in Somerleyton Hall and it's made of the real thing.

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Because it is gold and it is diamonds and it is pearls and that's fairly obvious.

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What isn't obvious is that the cameo in the middle is actually made of black and white agate,

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-it's a sort of sandwich of two colours within one stone.

-Oh.

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And then the lapidary has very sensitively cut out

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the face of this classical goddess from the white material to expose the black behind, it's a true cameo.

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We normally see shell cameos here but this is a stone cameo, and it suggests that this is

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-a much higher status jewel than what's normally found by us.

-Oh.

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The slight mystery of it was where it comes from.

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These cases, made of leather, lined with velvet and satin are a bit like picture frames

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-and there's skill in recognising those and my view is that this might be Austrian or perhaps German.

-Oh.

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How on earth it finds its way to the UK, how on earth it finds its way to a boot sale...

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-A car boot sale.

-..to be revved up by you, honestly, I've never seen anything like it.

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Um, I wonder what it...?

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Just a hint of what it was intended for at the back because we can see a photograph

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of what may well be the fellow that presented it to the girl, when she received it in perhaps 1870.

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Would it have been a wedding gift?

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Highly likely because it is a sort of locket as well as a pendant.

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-He looks prosperous, doesn't he?

-He does.

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He's got a very full beard and he's a well dressed

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and rather sweet looking fellow, and that's probably all we'll ever know.

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-It's a little jewel with a ghost in the back.

-Yes.

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And with all that mystery and all that excitement comes a very handsome value really.

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So I think you've really probably turned £5 into...

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close to £1,000.

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You're joking. Really?

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Oh, brilliant.

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When I first saw these figures, I thought I was looking at Hiawatha,

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probably because of the pigtails and the banding here,

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which is rather Native North American in design, but I was wrong.

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-Who am I looking at?

-Well, we believe it's Salome.

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-Salome, the famous Biblical figure who we all know about.

-That's right.

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Who danced for King Herod and he was so entranced by her dancing that he promised her anything she wanted,

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and, egged on by her mother, she demanded the head of John the Baptist on a platter.

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Herod was very upset by this, but he gave it to her.

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Um, how did the figures come into your possession?

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Well, they were actually Mike's parents'.

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-Yes.

-And, um when we got married they gave us one

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and we've just recently acquired this one, and after the war

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they were in Jordan, until '55 and we're not precisely sure of the timing, but it was

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somewhere in the early '50s we think and their doctor was an Italian

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-and we think that they acquired them through the doctor.

-Oh, right.

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We're not sure whether they actually ever met the artist.

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-I think you have a photograph of the artist, don't you?

-Yes, that's right.

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Wow, he was a striking looking man, wasn't he? And who was the artist?

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-Tiscali.

-Not a name I know, Tiscali.

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Well, I don't think he was a very well known artist

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but we heard that he would only do sculptures for people that he liked.

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-Right.

-And apparently he was asked by Mussolini...

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-Il duce.

-..or one of his aides... to do a sculpture of him,

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and he refused, so he actually had to leave Italy,

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so again, not sure whether he was in Jordan or not, but he did have to leave Italy for that reason.

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-So he was exiled?

-That's right.

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I think he was very lucky just to get away with an exile, wasn't he?

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-Could have been a lot worse.

-Yes.

-Yeah, how fascinating!

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And there we have a figure of Salome herself, this particular figure.

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Well, I think probably more research is needed on the artist, isn't it?

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-Absolutely.

-As you say, he's not a well known name,

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but clearly he was a very talented person and had a lot of style.

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Well, let's have a look at the two figures, and they're both of Salome.

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They're very stylish, aren't they?

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-They are.

-Very dramatic, and this one, the larger of the two figures, you can see the pigtails.

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The wood is very close grained,

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it's probably either box wood or lime wood and they're polychrome figures and they go down to the ebonised base

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-and he's got a rather Art Deco style monogram, hasn't he, which he's put on both of the bases.

-Yes.

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I like the movement of them, they're very free flowing, aren't they?

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I would suspect, if they came up at auction, this smaller figure would probably fetch

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in the region of £600 to £800 and the larger one, maybe £1,000, £1,500,

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so you've probably got £2,000 between them,

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-but the story of the artist and Mussolini absolutely makes it.

-Yes.

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Shawls are back in fashion, in the sense of Pashminas,

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but there was a time in the 1800s when, if you didn't have a shawl, actually you were a nobody.

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And this is a shawl from that golden age of shawl manufacture.

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What is the story behind it? Because it's an expensive shawl to have got,

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so obviously you're from a pretty good family I'd say, looking at the cut of your jib.

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Maybe, it was my great grandfather was a carriage driver in Norwich

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and it was left in one of his carriages one night and has since been handed down the family.

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How interesting, so a receiver of stolen goods. I had you...

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Could be, could be.

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I'm sorry, I had you marked out as the wrong kind of aristocrat there.

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OK, well let's just talk a little bit about what we have. I mean, the word "shawl"

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actually comes from a Persian word, "shal",

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which has been anglicised and the Persian means "a woven fabric"

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so that's how we get the word in English.

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Um, and the point for me which makes it pertinent

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is that it comes from Norwich, so it's an East Anglian shawl.

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-Now you knew that, didn't you?

-Yes.

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We have here, a bit of paper...

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from the Norwich Museum Service and somebody wrote there in 1982. This was your...?

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This was my husband's aunt who actually gave it to me.

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That's lovely, she says...

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she wants to know about the tablecloth and of course the answer came back from Norwich...

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that it's not a tablecloth, but it is a shawl and they identify, as indeed I would have done,

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to Clabburn Sons and Crisp,

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who were one of the biggest and most well known of the Norwich shawl makers.

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Now, shawls had an enormous popularity in the 19th century,

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right from the early part through until almost precisely 1870.

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Do you know what happened in 1870?

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-No.

-The fashion designers invented the bustle.

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Now the shawl had been wonderful draped over the sort of Neo-Classical dresses

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that we all know from Jane Austen telly adaptations,

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and over the crinolines it was wonderful to have draped over those big skirts,

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but with the bustle there was no way of using it.

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-Oh, right.

-So suddenly they went out of fashion

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and they were then often cut up and used for dressing gowns, or made into jackets or whatever,

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so to have one in its original state is great.

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It's a good size, it's a square one, which would make me think that it's from the 1860's,

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rather than the 1850's when they tended to be longer, and the nice thing is, on the back here,

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we can see these weft threads that have been left long on the underside,

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they haven't been trimmed, so we can actually see how it was woven.

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Um, the value reflects, perhaps, its rarity and its condition

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-and I would have no difficulty in quoting between £1,000 and £1,500 at auction.

-Gosh, really?

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-Oh.

-It's an absolute cracker.

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This is amazing!

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I love the title here, "Somerleyton Village, Suffolk, as rebuilt from the designs of John Thomas, architect."

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Now, what I know about John Thomas...

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-of course he was the architect here who redesigned this for Sir Morton Peto.

-Indeed.

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And Sir Morton Peto made an awful lot of money building the Houses of Parliament and Nelson's Column,

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and this must be his design for the village, so how did it come to you?

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Well, I inherited it from my parents.

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I found it under the stairs after my father died, and it was all brown,

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but I remembered it from when I was a child at my grandmother's house and I always loved it.

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In fact, my mother used to say it was a "model village"

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and I always thought that meant a model of the village at the time, but, um...

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-Well, it is the model village of the Victorians.

-Yes, yes.

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It's this idealistic view of how a village should look, it's wonderful.

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-So do you live here?

-No, I've come up from Devon.

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-What!

-When I found out I was researching the picture on the net...

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-Yes.

-..and when I got onto the Somerleyton Hall website, I discovered that you were having

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the Antiques Roadshow here so I decided to make the trip, thought it might be of interest.

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You must have a badge for the longest travelled person here.

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But it is a wonderful thing to bring here because when you look at this...

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did John Thomas, the architect, actually paint this watercolour?

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I doubt it.

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So do I, but I think that this...

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the way this is framed, this is mid-Victorian, and this is his view, the architect's view,

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of how the village should look, and I would think that in his offices,

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because he would have had other people working with him,

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-he would have had someone from his plans, draw up his view of how the village should look.

-Yes.

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I think it's wonderful and it's so original, and you've got the dome top frame here, and I just love it.

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When you look at these figures here, when you look closely,

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if you look at a proper artist, someone who exhibited at the Royal Academy or Watercolour Society,

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-you get more detail, these are quite sort of basic...

-Yes, very.

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..but you stand back, you get this wonderful overall view of what the village looks like.

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I think it's fantastic and it's got to be worth somewhere in the region of £3,000 to £5,000.

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-Oh, lovely.

-Because it's such a wonderful panoramic view of the village.

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I have to say, it is the most extraordinary clock that I have ever seen on the Roadshow.

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The most unusual thing. Tell me all about it.

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Well, I inherited it from my wife's Dutch aunt who in turn acquired it

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from, um, Joan's grandfather, so it came really out of the blue to me, this wonderful object,

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but its provenance goes back to her grandfather who was a famous photographer in Holland

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and great friends of this architect Michael de Klerk,

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who was very famous for his work on social housing and is in all the architectural history books,

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and this was a present from the architect to my grandfather.

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Well, having just taken the back off the clock,

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I see here...my Dutch isn't very good, but presumably this is manufactured, or made,

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designed by M de Klerk, architect, and what does this word mean here at the bottom there?

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That means "in the ownership of".

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-OK, and so this, er...

-Bernard F Eilers.

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Right, I am slightly familiar with Mr de Klerk,

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but not terribly. I know he designed some fantastic buildings

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in Amsterdam and presumably all over Holland. Is that correct?

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-Mainly Amsterdam.

-So was he known for artefacts other than buildings?

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Mainly for these buildings.

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-Right.

-So I think the artefacts were a side line.

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Well, listen, I mean, what an incredible thing.

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Dated here 1914 so the dates fit in absolutely.

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He died in 1923, if that's right, around that time anyway.

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-Yes, yes.

-And then looking at the top we've got this wonderful mask,

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a stylised pear-shaped body

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on what must be skates.

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The thing that lets it down from my point of view, is a very basic quality movement by Junghans,

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which is of course a German factory, but that's just the sort of thing that he would have got hold of

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just prior to the start of the First War to pop in this case.

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Super chapter ring, lovely serpentine hands, just so unusual.

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I really don't know quite how to value it,

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so as in the case of anything, even during this recession,

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"find me another", and the answer is, you won't.

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If this went into the right sale,

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-I could easily see this fetching between £10,000 to £15,000.

-My goodness!

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-How interesting!

-It's a highly important bit of history in its own right.

-Yes, yes.

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This collection reminds me of some shelves in my granny's sitting room.

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They were glass shelves and they were piled high with figures like this, lacy ladies.

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-Quite nostalgic for me, really.

-Oh.

-Where did you get these?

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Well, basically what it was, me and my dad, when I was about five,

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my dad used to go out to auctions and he used to take me along with him,

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and I'd sit up on his shoulders and he'd look out for what he wanted to bid on,

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and then when he was bidding on something, he'd just touch my knee and I'd put my hand up.

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-You bid?

-Yeah, so I'd put my hand up, and then my dad would just look at the chap up in the box

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and give him a nod as if to say that was OK, she's all right, so I put my hand up for him.

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Many adults are nervous about bidding at auction, you were doing it at five, I think that's fantastic.

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Is there one piece out of the things that were acquired there that really appeals to you?

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My favourite piece is this one here, I just love it because of the... just the...

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simplicity of it, just the innocence and the wings, and I just think it's really, really pretty.

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So your favourite piece... It's got a mark on the bottom,

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-crown, cross patterns and D mark of the Derby factory.

-Right.

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That mark was used in the early 19th century, 200 years ago.

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So is that 200...?

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-This is a fake.

-No, that is a fake.

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This is a fake made in the early 20th century in France.

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-Right.

-Probably by Samson, who you might have heard of.

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-I have heard of it, yeah.

-Sorry to tell you that.

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That's all right, no problem, but I still love it.

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-It doesn't matter, does it, it's still a lovely thing.

-No.

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-It's not that valuable, it's worth £100 or something like that.

-Blimey.

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How are these things displayed?

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-I mean, you know...

-I've got a cabinet at home which my dad...

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My dad died about ten years ago and he left me the cabinet with the antiques in it,

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because it's something that we used to do and he wanted me to take care of them.

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I mean, I've got a few favourite pieces which to me stand out.

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This pair of vases is one.

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-Right.

-And they've got a mark on the bottom too.

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-But it's a genuine mark.

-OK.

-So mine's real.

-OK.

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They're a pair of Royal Worcester vases, and they were made in 1902

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-and they're painted by a chap called Chivers with these little wonderful groups of fruit.

-Oh, wow!

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And when you look at that, that is hand painted.

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-Incredible, isn't it?

-They are.

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Works of art with raised gilding around the panels, they're beautiful things.

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There is a bit of damage on them, but they're worth £700 or £800 for the pair, even with the damage.

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Goodness gracious. I had no idea they were worth that much.

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Any idea what my other favourite might be?

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-I've seen you look at that a couple of times.

-Ah, yes, I couldn't hide it, could I?

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No it is that, it is that, and the mark is - there we go -

0:20:220:20:27

Chamberlains Worcester.

0:20:270:20:29

-Do you think that's old?

-Well, we've probably had it in our family for a good 30 years

0:20:290:20:35

and we got it from auction so...

0:20:350:20:37

It's nearly 200 years old.

0:20:370:20:39

Oh, no!

0:20:390:20:41

-And it's beautifully painted. That's a nice thing too.

-Yes.

0:20:410:20:45

It's worth £1,000.

0:20:450:20:48

Oh, my goodness.

0:20:480:20:50

So you and your dad were a clever partnership I think,

0:20:520:20:55

a five year old and her father making a bit of money, so congratulations.

0:20:550:20:59

-Thank you very much for having a look at them for me today.

-It's been a pleasure.

-Thank you.

0:20:590:21:04

A little bird has told me that you've brought along

0:21:060:21:10

-a very bizarre item in this box.

-Yes.

0:21:100:21:13

-Can we have a look?

-Yes, indeed.

0:21:130:21:15

Now, what am I looking at? This here?

0:21:160:21:19

-Well, yes, really, yes.

-Unfold it?.

0:21:190:21:22

-Yes.

-Ooh.

0:21:220:21:24

What is it?

0:21:270:21:29

Well, it's the caul, the membrane, in which my grandfather was born in, in 1849.

0:21:290:21:35

So this is the amniotic sac or the membrane that encloses a baby within the womb?

0:21:350:21:41

Oh, my word!

0:21:410:21:43

And they were believed to preserve either the person who was born within it,

0:21:430:21:48

or anyone carrying one of those, from drowning.

0:21:480:21:51

The idea being that they were swimming inside the membrane.

0:21:510:21:54

-And it got stuck on this piece of paper.

-Yes, apparently...

0:21:540:21:57

-And sort of dried.

-Yes, indeed, and they were supposed to be...

0:21:570:22:01

-they were sold for as much as 15 guineas in the 1820's, 1830's.

-Really? What does it say in here?

0:22:010:22:06

That gave his date of birth, which again is unusual

0:22:060:22:09

because you get dates of Baptism, you don't get dates of birth so 28th February...

0:22:090:22:13

-"Birthright of Jesse..."

-Harrap - H-A-R-R-U-P, Harrup.

-"Born February 28th 1849."

0:22:130:22:18

And on that tiny bit of paper is says, "This is Jesse Harrup's, to be buried with him when he dies,

0:22:180:22:25

"it's his birthright, as born with it."

0:22:250:22:29

How extraordinary, but then obviously he wasn't buried with it.

0:22:290:22:31

-No.

-And it was kept.

-He and his wife both died in the flu epidemic of 1819.

0:22:310:22:35

They died within two days of each other and I reckon the hiatus of them both dying within a short time

0:22:350:22:40

and both being buried in a communal grave of 80-odd people in Paddington Cemetery in London

0:22:400:22:46

-that somehow it was overlooked and it's stayed with the family all this time.

-Do you know,

0:22:460:22:51

this is why I love this programme.

0:22:510:22:53

Now you've lost me for words.

0:22:550:22:58

-The pleasure's all mine. Thank you very much.

-Well, thank you.

0:22:580:23:02

This is quite a narrow little desk

0:23:040:23:07

and inside there's really not a lot going on. Do you use this as a desk?

0:23:070:23:12

Yes, we use it all the time.

0:23:120:23:14

So you can get more than it looks in there?

0:23:140:23:16

Yeah, it's usually crammed full.

0:23:160:23:18

But the simplicity of the top of the desk really belies what's going on everywhere else, doesn't it?

0:23:180:23:24

Because you've only got to look at the front here, to see these

0:23:240:23:28

amazing leopards, I suppose they are, but winged leopards sitting there

0:23:280:23:32

in really quite sort of chunky masculine glory with very elegant sweep of the wing up,

0:23:320:23:38

acting as a sort of support to the desk itself, it's a bit like...

0:23:380:23:42

the shape of it is a bit like a Davenport,

0:23:420:23:45

-but it hasn't got Davenport drawers and things like that.

-No.

0:23:450:23:48

And if you could help me just swivel this round so we can see the side.

0:23:480:23:54

There's more going on than you would ever know if you look at the front,

0:23:570:24:01

because there's no carving along the front, but here you've got grapes,

0:24:010:24:05

it would appear, a vine carved into the frieze, and then more fruit and strap-work

0:24:050:24:13

and really rich three dimensional carving into this bracket support

0:24:130:24:19

so it makes me think of a period in the middle of the 19th century.

0:24:190:24:24

And it doesn't immediately strike me as being an English piece.

0:24:240:24:28

Right, OK.

0:24:280:24:30

There's something not particularly characteristic about it.

0:24:300:24:34

It's walnut and that gives you this lovely close grain for carving, a very good carving wood.

0:24:340:24:39

If you help me twist it a bit more...

0:24:390:24:42

..it gets even more surprising and confusing because here,

0:24:430:24:50

you've got something completely different again,

0:24:500:24:53

a rather wonderful carving of two lovers.

0:24:530:24:58

Well, we've had it about ten years and my husband and I bought it

0:24:580:25:01

-as a wedding anniversary gift, a shared gift to each other.

-Right.

0:25:010:25:04

And we were originally looking for a traditional type of Davenport.

0:25:040:25:09

I fell in love with this immediately and my husband didn't like it,

0:25:090:25:12

he said he thought it looked a bit church like,

0:25:120:25:14

but I pleaded my case and got it, and we both absolutely adore it.

0:25:140:25:19

I've never seen anything like it.

0:25:190:25:20

Well, no, I would agree with you there. Nor have I, I have to say.

0:25:200:25:23

-No.

-It's very romantic, as you can see, and the subject matter

0:25:230:25:26

is actually a subject that was picked up by a lot of Romantic artists, and the subject is Paola and Francesca.

0:25:260:25:33

-Ooh.

-And the Francesca is Francesca da Rimini.

0:25:330:25:37

Now, you said to me that you bought it as a wedding anniversary...

0:25:370:25:40

-Yes, we did, yeah.

-Well, I have to tell you something rather disturbing.

0:25:400:25:44

-Is it a mourning piece?

-No... Well, yes and no.

-Oh.

0:25:440:25:47

-The fact is that Paola and Francesca were lovers, but they were adulterous lovers.

-Oh.

0:25:470:25:51

And they were killed by her jealous husband

0:25:510:25:55

and they were met by the poet Dante

0:25:550:26:00

in the first circle of hell.

0:26:000:26:03

-Oh.

-Floating round forever, locked in each other's arms.

-Wow!

0:26:030:26:08

And here it is, very clearly depicted but it's not exactly perhaps...

0:26:080:26:13

-No, it's not.

-..the subject that you ought to have chosen for a wedding anniversary present.

0:26:130:26:17

The disappointing thing perhaps is that in terms of value,

0:26:170:26:21

-because it's such a curious piece, it isn't necessarily going to get a huge amount...

-No, no.

0:26:210:26:25

..in the sale room, the market value is maybe £1,000 to £2,000.

0:26:250:26:30

-OK, thank you.

-But the story and why you've got it I think is fascinating.

0:26:300:26:36

Thank you so much. Thank you.

0:26:360:26:39

Well, you know, I'm not often asked to look at bits of scrap metal.

0:26:400:26:44

I don't view it as scrap metal, I view that very much as living history.

0:26:440:26:49

It's pieces of aircraft, the gun sight that came from Rudolph Hess' Messerschmitt 110.

0:26:490:26:56

Hess who was Hitler's second in command.

0:26:560:26:59

That's right, the man that fled to Scotland.

0:26:590:27:03

There's a lot of mystery surrounding the events in 1941, but basically his idea...

0:27:030:27:10

Hess had the idea that he could end the war between Germany and England, or Britain,

0:27:100:27:17

by flying across and negotiating a peace if you like,

0:27:170:27:21

so he flew his twin-engined Messerschmitt across to Scotland,

0:27:210:27:27

he baled out, it crash landed and who did he meet in Scotland? Remind me.

0:27:270:27:32

I believe his plan was to try and connect with the British aristocracy, the Duke of Hamilton,

0:27:320:27:36

because he felt that there were sympathisers at that level that might help with this peace deal.

0:27:360:27:41

Might help to stop the war between Britain and Germany.

0:27:410:27:45

Yes, perhaps allow them to focus on Russia.

0:27:450:27:48

So, I want to know how your father obtained these. Your father...

0:27:480:27:51

You've got a photograph here - is one of these your father?

0:27:510:27:54

Yes, this is my father in the Royal Norfolk Regiment, 1933,

0:27:540:27:59

had actually gone up on leave with my two elder brothers and they saw Hess's aircraft come over.

0:27:590:28:06

Now, being an army man, he recognised the Messerschmitt 110

0:28:060:28:10

and knew that it was strange that it could be so far north, it wouldn't have the range to get back home,

0:28:100:28:16

so he was puzzled about it.

0:28:160:28:17

They saw the aircraft come down, then went and visited the wreckage

0:28:170:28:22

and because, being an army man,

0:28:220:28:25

the two soldiers guarding it, he had a chat with them,

0:28:250:28:28

and the boys were interested in aircraft parts

0:28:280:28:31

so one of the guards unscrewed the gun sight from the machine gun.

0:28:310:28:35

-This sight here?

-Yes, and passed it back to my elder brother, who's now passed it down to me.

0:28:350:28:41

-What a wonderful story.

-I think it's fascinating.

0:28:410:28:45

These are, historically, from a Second World War perspective,

0:28:450:28:48

incredibly interesting, really interesting,

0:28:480:28:52

and I know there can't be many pieces like this in private hands,

0:28:520:28:56

and actually they do have a value.

0:28:560:28:58

If they came up on the open market today, an aviation collector would pay,

0:28:580:29:03

I think, something up to £700, £800, maybe £1,000 for them.

0:29:030:29:08

-What, for that? That really is...

-For two pieces of scrap metal.

0:29:080:29:12

That's quite surprising, I would not have put anything like that on those as a value.

0:29:120:29:17

We won't sell them, of course, because they'll pass to my son.

0:29:170:29:21

So here's a very, shall we say, vibrant picture by Colin Moss -

0:29:210:29:26

-1952, clearly inscribed, and I understand that it's you. Is it?

-Yes.

0:29:260:29:32

-I didn't recognise you with your clothes on.

-Yes.

0:29:320:29:36

-I had to say that, you do realise.

-Yeah, well, fine, it was inevitable I suppose, wasn't it?

0:29:360:29:40

Yes, exactly. Well, so how, what, why? You know.

0:29:400:29:44

Well, I first met Colin Moss when I began to be a student when I was 16,

0:29:440:29:49

and this was at Ipswich Art School, and shortly after I'd been there,

0:29:490:29:53

not very long afterwards, he suddenly said, out of the blue,

0:29:530:29:57

-that he was enamoured of me.

-So I suppose you ran screaming from the room.

0:29:570:30:02

Pretty much, yes, I did, and in fact it was a great shock all round.

0:30:020:30:05

However years later he rang me up and asked if I'd come and pose,

0:30:050:30:09

he'd always wanted to paint me and I said, "Oh, well, all right, you may."

0:30:090:30:13

Just that one session, and that was it, away I went.

0:30:130:30:17

And then many, many years go by, I was asked if I would like to

0:30:170:30:21

go to a show Colin had, and there I was on the front of it, you see.

0:30:210:30:26

-What, on the cover?

-Yes, and I couldn't believe it, I was horrified.

0:30:260:30:31

And my sons bought the painting for me.

0:30:310:30:33

It wasn't for sale and he wouldn't sell it to anybody other than to them,

0:30:330:30:40

on the knowledge that it would go to me, so actually it hangs in my son's house now because it's rather large.

0:30:400:30:46

Well, rather large, but, um, wonderfully colourful.

0:30:460:30:49

Yes, he's quite a well known painter in this part of the world.

0:30:490:30:53

He's certainly well known round here and he's also well known nationally,

0:30:530:30:57

he's not just a local hero, and a great champion of Expressionism in this country

0:30:570:31:02

and also Surrealism, which was a very powerful movement, you know, just after the war.

0:31:020:31:07

It's amazingly painted, very quickly, perhaps with feverish haste.

0:31:070:31:14

Yes. But he's chosen some good colours to go in here,

0:31:140:31:19

it's amazing to see that is green and it works perfectly, you know,

0:31:190:31:23

the flesh tones are well built up and I love this bit of purple here.

0:31:230:31:27

The whole thing is a blast of colour.

0:31:270:31:29

I can see why your sons wanted it, it wasn't just because of you,

0:31:290:31:33

you know, it's a powerful punchy picture.

0:31:330:31:36

How much did they have to pay for it? Do you mind me asking?

0:31:360:31:39

I think it was £2,500, something like that, I'm not really sure.

0:31:390:31:42

-Well, like a lot of artists, their day is yet to come.

-Yeah.

0:31:420:31:46

-I think he's dead now, isn't he?

-Yes, he has died now.

0:31:460:31:48

Um, and there needs to be a looking again at artists of this vintage,

0:31:480:31:54

-but shall we say that it's worth between £3,000 and £4,000.

-Yes.

0:31:540:31:59

I think it could well be actually, and great fun. Thank you very much.

0:31:590:32:04

I think it's the first time

0:32:050:32:07

we've ever had a whip collection on the Antiques Roadshow.

0:32:070:32:11

Tell me how it started.

0:32:110:32:13

It started because I've got a big interest in horses.

0:32:130:32:16

-I've been showing for the 30 years.

-What kind of horses do you show?

0:32:160:32:20

-Stallion ponies.

-Stallion ponies?

0:32:200:32:22

Yes, and this has taken me through with my interest.

0:32:220:32:28

I'm calling it a collection of whips but there are riding crops as well as whips.

0:32:280:32:33

Yes, these would be classed as riding crops, they're elegant,

0:32:330:32:37

and the hunting...the hunting crops have a gate handle which is...

0:32:370:32:42

-Like this.

-At the top, which would open the gates, and then it would have the thong.

0:32:420:32:47

They actually use the thong to wrap around the gate to keep the gate open as well.

0:32:470:32:52

Now, this one looks a very, very handsome one, gold.

0:32:520:32:57

Swaine Adeney Co. Piccadilly.

0:32:570:33:01

-Tell me about this one.

-Well, I purchased it from a friend,

0:33:010:33:05

didn't pay an awful lot of money for it and I qualified my horse to the Horse of the Year Show.

0:33:050:33:12

-Did you?

-And I was going to ride him with that whip to go in.

-Yes.

0:33:120:33:17

So Swaine Adeney in London, the top costumiers for hunting and ponies

0:33:170:33:23

and...

0:33:230:33:25

In fact, I would say this is probably dating to about 1920. What did you pay for this?

0:33:250:33:31

About £75.

0:33:320:33:34

-Well, it's certainly worth a lot more than that.

-Yes.

0:33:340:33:37

I would have thought several hundred, possibly up to £500.

0:33:370:33:42

The one I really am fascinated with, absolutely fascinating which must be token, it can't have been used,

0:33:420:33:48

because I am sure that this part is a porcupine quill,

0:33:480:33:53

so you've probably got a bit of coral on top, gold and a lovely silk tassel.

0:33:530:34:00

I think this is probably one of your early ones.

0:34:000:34:03

In pictures you see them around about 1860-1870.

0:34:030:34:07

-I was going to say mid...

-Very early.

0:34:070:34:09

..mid to second half of the 19th century,

0:34:090:34:12

-and I would put somewhere around £300 to £500 on that.

-OK.

0:34:120:34:18

And then you've got another gold one here.

0:34:180:34:21

-Is this a Swaine one as well?

-It is, mmm.

0:34:210:34:24

It is, now that's an earlier one because that just says Swaine & Co, London

0:34:240:34:29

so that is stunning, isn't it?

0:34:290:34:33

I bought a box of whips in a lot deal in a farm sale.

0:34:330:34:37

-That was at the bottom of the box and it was still in its original tissue paper.

-No!

0:34:370:34:42

I didn't realise it was a whip until I pulled it out, ripped the paper off and I found that.

0:34:420:34:47

It's in its brand new... brand new state.

0:34:470:34:50

-It is, isn't it?

-And I think it...

0:34:500:34:52

And that probably must be worth £1,000.

0:34:520:34:55

-Lovely, thank you very much for bringing them today.

-Well, thank you for looking at them for me.

0:34:550:35:01

I see by the fact that this has a Cyrillic inscription on the front

0:35:030:35:08

and has got a date 1794 that this is a Russian cup.

0:35:080:35:12

Have you any idea about its history and how it came into your possession?

0:35:120:35:16

Well, it belongs to a son-in-law of mine, who... It's a family cup,

0:35:160:35:20

so I assume it's one of his ancestors,

0:35:200:35:22

and as far as I understand, it's related to a horse race, it must have taken place in Russia.

0:35:220:35:28

And have you any idea what the inscription says?

0:35:280:35:31

-Well, I've got a letter here from the London Library dated 13th November 1893.

-Right.

0:35:310:35:37

And it says, "The goblet was made for the double victory of Marion over Bruce

0:35:370:35:43

"and presented by an amateur to Joseph Smith as a token of friendship on 28th June 1794."

0:35:430:35:50

Well, that's extraordinary. I mean, Marion over Bruce...

0:35:500:35:53

I hate to think... What are Marion and Bruce? It sounds Australian.

0:35:530:35:56

-Well, I gather they're horses.

-Oh, well, that's a big relief.

0:35:560:36:00

I think they're horses probably.

0:36:000:36:02

Ah, well, that makes a lot of difference then.

0:36:020:36:04

-I think they must be, yes.

-Well, it's a fantastic looking cup and if we look at it more closely,

0:36:040:36:09

the engraving on it is beautiful, you've these lovely swags in the sort of Neo-Classical style

0:36:090:36:15

and especially down the bottom here, we've got this wonderful leaf calyx, absolutely beautifully engraved.

0:36:150:36:21

So whoever made this really was a good silversmith.

0:36:210:36:25

I'm afraid, I can't tell you who the actual silversmith was,

0:36:250:36:28

but 18th century Russian silver of this quality, you don't see very often.

0:36:280:36:34

And on a fairly technical side, the colour and the patination, ie all those tiny little scratches

0:36:340:36:41

that come on silver over a couple of hundred years that give it its lovely soft feel,

0:36:410:36:46

they are really wonderful on this, so this is a really, really good piece of silver.

0:36:460:36:51

So the value of Russian silver has gone up, especially with the influence of Russian oligarchs

0:36:510:36:56

coming over here, but it's affected the whole of the Russian market,

0:36:560:37:01

and good pieces like this have really gone up in value in the last five or six years. Have you...

0:37:010:37:07

-or your son-in-law any idea what something like this might be worth?

-I think he's absolutely no idea.

0:37:070:37:11

I think a cup like this is probably worth in the region of £3,000.

0:37:110:37:17

-Oh, he'll be very pleased, very pleased.

-Hopefully it won't make him go out betting on horse races.

0:37:170:37:23

No, no, probably not, he's a Yorkshireman.

0:37:230:37:26

-Definitely not. Thank you so much for bringing it along.

-Thank you.

0:37:260:37:30

We're having a very busy day here at Somerleyton, I'm glad to say, lots of people to see,

0:37:360:37:42

wonderful items, but I've managed to grab one of our specialists,

0:37:420:37:45

Bunny Campione, cos as I'm sure you know by now in this series,

0:37:450:37:48

I'm talking to our specialists about what is their most favoured item in their collections,

0:37:480:37:53

and what has been perhaps a little bit of a disaster.

0:37:530:37:56

Bunny, let's talk about the disaster first of all, come on, get it off your chest.

0:37:560:38:00

Well, this tea set which I had inherited from my granny

0:38:000:38:04

was sitting on a shelf in the drawing room that we used in the winter

0:38:040:38:08

and it had a glass shelf on top of it where someone, one of the family, had put a whole lot of books

0:38:080:38:14

and in the winter we went in there to light the fire, and there was a very smashed set

0:38:140:38:19

because the books had all broken the glass shelf and smashed to smithereens.

0:38:190:38:25

-So collapsed on top of the tea set?

-Collapsed, yes.

-Oh, dear.

0:38:250:38:29

So, just in case there was any value in it, I took it, in pieces,

0:38:290:38:33

to an expert at one of the auction houses and he said, "Bunny, I think you should sit down,

0:38:330:38:39

"because do you have any idea what this would have been worth?"

0:38:390:38:43

I said, "No, I just inherited it from my grandmother,"

0:38:430:38:46

and he said, "Well, it would have been worth £8,000,"

0:38:460:38:48

-and I did sit down.

-8,000?

0:38:480:38:51

-I was gob smacked.

-It would have been worth.

0:38:510:38:54

-Yes, would.

-Oh!

0:38:540:38:56

Because it's particularly rare or...?

0:38:560:38:58

It's particularly rare, it's Luigi Agostino of Savona in Italy

0:38:580:39:03

and the ground is particularly rare, it's late 18th century.

0:39:030:39:08

You've obviously had it restored because you can hardly see...

0:39:080:39:10

-Well, a friend of mine... Exactly. Well, if you look really closely, you can.

-Yes.

0:39:100:39:14

One of my friends was learning restoration and she said, "Could I make it one of my projects?"

0:39:140:39:20

and I think she worked on it for five or six years, and she's done a great job.

0:39:200:39:24

Now, I see here, I'm assuming that your most prized possession

0:39:240:39:28

isn't a photograph of Stewart Granger, gorgeous though he is,

0:39:280:39:30

but there's a family connection. Just remind me what it is.

0:39:300:39:33

Well, he was my mother's brother, he was my uncle and when his mother, my grandmother, died, he said -

0:39:330:39:40

he was in America - he said, "Will you go and sort out her paperwork?"

0:39:400:39:45

And so in sorting out her paperwork I came across this, which, um, John Martin was one of our...

0:39:450:39:51

I suppose most famous of the 19th century...

0:39:510:39:54

He died in...

0:39:540:39:56

one year after that was painted in 1852 and this is a study

0:39:560:40:01

for one of his huge works, possibly The Stilling Of The Oceans

0:40:010:40:06

or The Deluge which is in The Tate.

0:40:060:40:10

So hugely valuable to you, not only I imagine financially,

0:40:100:40:12

-but in terms of...emotionally, for you and your family.

-Absolutely.

0:40:120:40:16

How does this come into it all then, this rather, how can I put it, portly chap here?

0:40:160:40:22

Definitely, he was called Luigi Lablache, he was Stewart Granger's great grandfather,

0:40:220:40:27

my great great, and he was an Italian and he became an opera singer

0:40:270:40:32

and Don Pasquale was written by Donizetti in 1843,

0:40:320:40:38

he performed as Don Pasquale in Paris.

0:40:380:40:41

-What, it was written for him?

-It was written for him to be Don Pasquale.

0:40:410:40:45

-How extraordinary!

-And he came over to England and he became Queen Victoria's singing master.

0:40:450:40:50

-Really?

-Yes. So, um...

-Bunny, who would have thought it?

0:40:500:40:53

You are a scion of a showbiz dynasty.

0:40:530:40:55

We are so grateful, aren't we? You've come amongst us.

0:40:550:40:59

Bunny, thank you very much.

0:40:590:41:00

Thank you.

0:41:000:41:02

OPERA MUSIC PLAYS

0:41:020:41:05

I nearly didn't bring it along. It was at the back of the cupboard

0:41:160:41:20

and I'd looked at it in the past and been told it was quite special, it had no mark on it.

0:41:200:41:26

-I just thought it was a bit of a fake really.

-OK. A fake what?

0:41:260:41:30

God knows.

0:41:300:41:32

I thought it was china, but I'm beginning to think that maybe it's glass, I don't know.

0:41:320:41:38

-That would explain why you're doing it with me rather than with one of the ceramics guys.

-Oh, yes.

0:41:380:41:43

-So what do you think it might be?

-I just thought it was a vase.

0:41:430:41:48

OK, well, on that, we absolutely agree.

0:41:480:41:51

Where I'm going to be able to illuminate you is by telling you

0:41:510:41:54

first of all that it is a piece of glass, and it's really a quite special piece too.

0:41:540:42:01

Ooh, I can feel my goose bumps coming up as I'm saying this.

0:42:010:42:04

This is a really special thing.

0:42:040:42:06

It's English, made in Stourbridge by Thomas Webb,

0:42:060:42:12

the greatest of the late Victorian glass makers, won prizes all over the place

0:42:120:42:18

and it's decorated, I think, by its finest...the finest glass decorator in Europe at the time.

0:42:180:42:25

-How am I doing so far?

-Very good.

-I thought you'd be keen.

-Very good.

0:42:250:42:29

His name was Jules Barbe and he was a Frenchman

0:42:290:42:31

who left Paris after his wife was killed during the Franco-Prussian war,

0:42:310:42:34

he said, "I've just had enough and I need a new scene."

0:42:340:42:38

And he came to England and worked for Thomas Webb for whom he won prizes and acclaim across Europe

0:42:380:42:44

as the world's finest glass decorator, and you, unbeknownst to you, have an example of his work.

0:42:440:42:51

And this is an ivory base decorated in the Aesthetic style

0:42:510:42:57

with an amalgam, a mish-mash if you like,

0:42:570:43:00

of geometric Chinese lattice with Islamic, quasi-Islamic,

0:43:000:43:06

into a kind of European thing with Chinese symbols over Japanese fish

0:43:060:43:12

in a sort of Oriental wave pattern,

0:43:120:43:14

and it comes under the general heading of the Aesthetic.

0:43:140:43:18

So it's a lovely thing and it probably would have won prizes in its time,

0:43:180:43:23

and I tell you it would win prizes today.

0:43:230:43:26

The thing that it wouldn't win prizes for is it's the filthiest, dirtiest, most mucky piece of glass

0:43:260:43:33

that I have ever had the misfortune to lay my hands on.

0:43:330:43:36

What you've been doing to this, I have no...

0:43:360:43:40

-Has this been in the garden?

-No, this has had plants, flowers.

0:43:400:43:44

-Flowers?

-A few years ago.

-Looks like cow pats!

0:43:440:43:48

which is not a very good thing to do to a vase that's worth between £3,500 and £5,000.

0:43:480:43:54

GASPS

0:43:540:43:56

Well, maybe it got your attention.

0:43:560:43:59

-It jolly well did that.

-I don't believe you,

0:44:010:44:04

as you well know, but I'll accept your word because you are an expert.

0:44:040:44:08

-Absolutely wonderful!

-I've never been so insulted in all my life.

0:44:080:44:12

Julia Margaret Cameron, a magical name in photographic terms,

0:44:160:44:21

she signed every piece by hand and she transformed portrait photography

0:44:210:44:27

throughout the rest of the 19th century, so massively important.

0:44:270:44:31

I don't know if you've ever seen those rather stultified daguerreotypes of Victorians

0:44:310:44:36

and they're all sort of standing there very upright, not moving, whereas she portrayed people

0:44:360:44:41

in a much more sympathetic way and more like paintings, and they have great charm

0:44:410:44:46

and great personal emotion goes into each of her portraits and that's why they're so collectable today.

0:44:460:44:52

Um, how did you come by them?

0:44:520:44:54

-I was left them by my granddad. He left them to me when he...

-Was he interested in photography?

0:44:540:45:00

Yeah, he was a very keen photographer, he's now...

0:45:000:45:02

Did a lot of portrait work, to be fair, so I imagine that's why he bought them.

0:45:020:45:06

-So he obviously appreciated the quality.

-Yes, I imagine.

0:45:060:45:10

Now, the thing I find interesting about Julia is that she was given

0:45:100:45:14

a camera by her daughter, I think, quite late in life, she only was a photographer eleven years

0:45:140:45:19

and if you can imagine back in the 1860s,

0:45:190:45:22

ladies weren't expected to get involved with the latest technology of taking snaps,

0:45:220:45:26

so she was very, well, far ahead of her time,

0:45:260:45:30

and she did produce wonderful images of some of the most famous people of the period.

0:45:300:45:35

So there was Tennyson, there was Burne-Jones,

0:45:350:45:38

there was all the Pre-Raphaelites and we have Henry Taylor,

0:45:380:45:41

who's not so well known today, but he was a famous poet in the 1860s,

0:45:410:45:46

and then GF Watts who is very well known as a symbolist painter and I think they're absolutely enchanting.

0:45:460:45:52

I think the Watts one would fetch certainly between £800 and £1,200 at auction,

0:45:520:45:57

and the Taylor one between £400 and £600, so we're talking about £1,200 to £1,800, which I think...

0:45:570:46:03

-They're gorgeous. Thank you very much for bringing them in.

-Thank you very much.

0:46:030:46:07

Now, you two practically followed one another in the queue, didn't you?

0:46:070:46:11

And you both had Japanese objects. Now, whose is whose?

0:46:110:46:16

-This is my mother's, she's away and I've brought it for you to see.

-She doesn't know you've brought it?

0:46:160:46:23

She's in Italy and she's no idea.

0:46:230:46:26

OK, and that's yours, therefore.

0:46:260:46:28

-That's been in our family for quite a long time.

-OK.

0:46:280:46:31

They're both Japanese, this is a typical piece of Japanese Tokyo School carving.

0:46:310:46:38

Tokyo School because there was an art school set up there,

0:46:380:46:43

to get back to the quality of carving that the Japanese had traditionally done.

0:46:430:46:51

And they had a zoo in Tokyo and they would have seen monkeys like this.

0:46:510:46:57

And this is such a charming group of the mother ape

0:46:570:47:02

and her offspring

0:47:020:47:04

after a frog.

0:47:040:47:06

It's so delightful a carving, and so sensitively carved.

0:47:060:47:13

It's signed on the bottom, Kosan,

0:47:130:47:17

-and it would date from about 1880, somewhere around there.

-Right.

0:47:170:47:23

So I'll put that down there.

0:47:230:47:25

Now, this looks like a lump of... I don't know what it does look like.

0:47:250:47:29

It doesn't look as if it's got any form to it at all

0:47:290:47:33

and the two are separated by about...

0:47:330:47:37

30 years probably.

0:47:370:47:40

This is a hare...

0:47:400:47:42

..and it is...awfully hare-like.

0:47:430:47:47

I mean, that is exactly what a hare does,

0:47:470:47:51

and every little blob tells a story about the animal.

0:47:510:47:56

It works beautifully

0:47:560:47:58

and I think that the sculptor here

0:47:580:48:02

had seen European sculpture

0:48:020:48:07

by people like Rembrandt Bugatti.

0:48:070:48:10

It's modernist, and it's probably about 1920.

0:48:100:48:15

'15 to '20.

0:48:150:48:17

-Do you know what it is?

-I wondered if it was for incense,

0:48:170:48:19

whether you put a stick in there and that's all I could think of.

0:48:190:48:23

So what do you do with the hole in the mouth?

0:48:230:48:25

Well, maybe he's a smoking hare.

0:48:250:48:27

Well, actually, what you do, you get a bucket of water

0:48:300:48:33

-and you put him in it, like that, and he fills up, bubble bubble, and he's now full of water, right?

-Yes.

0:48:330:48:40

Put your thumb over the hole at the top,

0:48:400:48:43

here's your ink, you grind it on a stone and you want a bit of water, lift your thumb off and out comes...

0:48:430:48:50

out comes a little stream of water.

0:48:500:48:52

-Fantastic.

-So it's for making ink, it's a water dropper.

-Wonderful.

0:48:520:48:57

He's signed too.

0:48:580:49:01

I can't make sense of this, but that says, "Heedenau,"

0:49:010:49:05

which is definitely the artist's signature, the other two I'm not sure about.

0:49:050:49:09

So,

0:49:100:49:13

do we like them?

0:49:130:49:15

I think we do.

0:49:150:49:17

I think the hare

0:49:170:49:19

would make, um...

0:49:190:49:21

..£600 to £900,

0:49:220:49:27

and I think that would make £2,000 to £3,000.

0:49:270:49:31

Ooh!

0:49:310:49:33

Mum will be pleased.

0:49:330:49:35

I can ring her up and tell her what I've done now, can't I?

0:49:350:49:39

-She's not prone to heart attacks, is she?

-No, she'll be thrilled.

0:49:390:49:43

-Thank you very much for bringing them in.

-Thank you very much.

0:49:430:49:47

Well done.

0:49:470:49:49

-So these are primitive ship portraits and they're just so vivid...

-Right.

0:49:560:50:02

-..of the fishing life of Lowestoft, aren't they?

-That's correct, yes.

0:50:020:50:06

My father was a fisherman and his father was a fisherman

0:50:060:50:11

and I've lived in Lowestoft all my life.

0:50:110:50:14

We've been collecting these for quite a few years, you know, and I fish myself

0:50:140:50:20

and the smell of the sea brings back a lot of memories, you know, when I used to go and meet the...

0:50:200:50:26

my father from coming in from sea, you know.

0:50:260:50:29

You were sent down by your mother or something.

0:50:290:50:31

Yes, that's correct, yes, sent down the harbour to meet my dad coming home to get the money

0:50:310:50:39

before he went into the pubs and spend it all after a bout of fishing, see what he made.

0:50:390:50:45

There was me, my sister and brother, we used to run all the way home to my mother and gave her the money.

0:50:450:50:50

-Absolutely brilliant.

-And wait till he came home in the evening, wonderful, wonderful.

0:50:500:50:55

Now, there's hardly any trawlers.

0:50:550:50:57

-Fishing's gone.

-Fishing has gone from Lowestoft now, yes.

0:50:570:51:02

-A bygone age.

-Yes.

0:51:020:51:04

Well, these are very, very evocative of that age.

0:51:040:51:07

-Right.

-This one here, by an artist called Tench.

-Yes.

-That's 20th century, isn't it?

0:51:070:51:12

-That's quite early, it's 1909 dated and it's very flat, isn't it? The way it's painted.

-Yes.

0:51:120:51:18

You've got the sea and the sky, then the boat stands out rather starkly in very sharp profile.

0:51:180:51:24

-Yes.

-And the lettering is very carefully done.

0:51:240:51:26

As I understand it, the lettering often was so carefully done because the artist who painted them

0:51:260:51:32

would ordinarily be painting lettering on the side of the actual ship.

0:51:320:51:36

-Right.

-In other words they were jobbing sign painters

0:51:360:51:39

who turned their hands to ship portraits for the skippers and crew and the owners.

0:51:390:51:42

-Yes.

-And I think that really comes through, because it's a man who understands boats.

0:51:420:51:47

-Yes.

-I would imagine your grandfather would've looked at that,

0:51:470:51:50

and not being able to fault the rigging, he'd have said, "That is exactly how it was."

0:51:500:51:54

Yes, he did actually, he said that's how they were, and he used to say,

0:51:540:52:00

"The sea was rough and we had a horrible trip out to sea," and this and that, you know.

0:52:000:52:05

Well, there's something of the sea's fury up here in this one.

0:52:050:52:08

-Yes, that's right.

-Because we know that that is the rescue, isn't it,

0:52:080:52:11

-of a lifeboat full of survivors from the shipwreck of a German passenger liner en route for New York.

-Yes.

0:52:110:52:19

It's picking those people up and there's a small child being sick over the side, look at that.

0:52:190:52:25

-Yes, I know.

-And there's a chap losing his hat on the foredeck...

0:52:250:52:29

-Yes, yes.

-..which is good, and they're putting their sails down to take those people on board

0:52:290:52:33

and they were the only survivors from more than 350 passengers and crew.

0:52:330:52:37

-Correct, mm.

-But what's good about that one, in contrast to the first one,

0:52:370:52:41

-is how natural and real the sea looks.

-Yes.

0:52:410:52:43

-I mean, I think that this artist, whose name is Burwood...

-Yes.

0:52:430:52:47

..he must've really understood the sea and had the skills to paint it.

0:52:470:52:51

-Yes.

-So these Burwoods are 1890s, I think.

-Right.

0:52:510:52:55

This one's actually dated 1893, and then this fourth one down here,

0:52:550:53:00

-that's actually in Naples, we can see Vesuvius there and it's by an Italian artist.

-Right.

0:53:000:53:05

And also I think it's actually naval rather than commercial fishing boats,

0:53:050:53:10

so this is the one that sticks out as not being belonging quite so much,

0:53:100:53:14

-but it's quite interesting to see how the Italians did it.

-It is.

0:53:140:53:17

-Again, very formalised, and that is much, much earlier.

-Really?

0:53:170:53:20

That's very early 19th century, yes.

0:53:200:53:23

-What's the most you ever spent on one?

-I should think about £600.

0:53:230:53:27

-600?

-Mm.

-Which one? One of these?

0:53:270:53:29

-Yes, this one.

-This one.

-Yes.

0:53:290:53:31

-I think it's the best of them, you know.

-Yes, yes.

0:53:310:53:34

It's got a drama and a story, and I think that's probably worth about £2,000 to £3,000 now.

0:53:340:53:39

-Really?

-Yes, yes, I really do.

0:53:390:53:41

And this one, also by Burwood, I think that might be worth as much as that, although I don't prefer it.

0:53:410:53:46

And this artist, Tench, who's maybe a generation later,

0:53:460:53:51

-I'd have to say that he's probably a little bit less, something like £800 to £1,200 for that.

-Good grief.

0:53:510:53:56

Yes, well, and this Neapolitan one is probably worth about £400 to £600.

0:53:560:54:02

Oh, my word!

0:54:020:54:04

-Absolutely lovely, thank you.

-Well, thanks ever so much indeed.

0:54:040:54:08

Well, this is a bit of a thriller for me

0:54:090:54:11

because in this box is something that isn't bad, it's something that's really, really good.

0:54:110:54:18

Now, out it comes, I'm going to give it to you to hold while I just get rid of the box.

0:54:180:54:25

There we go. Tell me about it.

0:54:250:54:28

Um, I won it in a competition in 1991 from a national newspaper.

0:54:280:54:34

And it is...

0:54:340:54:37

let's be honest about this, this is Michael Jackson's fedora.

0:54:370:54:41

-Yes.

-It was very much his trade mark during the Bad tour,

0:54:410:54:46

which was 1987, 1988,

0:54:460:54:49

and then...you won it in a competition held by a newspaper, and what did you have to do for that?

0:54:490:54:55

Um, that was just a phone competition.

0:54:550:54:58

-Right.

-And obviously I phoned up and they said that I'd won it, won first prize.

0:54:580:55:03

You must've been a Michael Jackson fan or you wouldn't have bothered to go in for the competition.

0:55:030:55:08

-Are you still?

-Yes, still a fan, yes.

-It's been terribly, terribly sad.

0:55:080:55:14

-Yes.

-The world has lost Michael Jackson.

-Yes.

0:55:140:55:16

And, as a result, I think that he is going through a renaissance in popularity

0:55:160:55:23

and anything associated with Michael Jackson,

0:55:230:55:26

I think is going to, just at this moment,

0:55:260:55:31

have a renaissance too.

0:55:310:55:33

The great thing is that not only did you get the hat,

0:55:330:55:38

-but you also got a letter of authenticity.

-Yes.

-Because that actually is what it's all about.

0:55:380:55:45

The object is one thing, the proof is the vital missing piece of the jigsaw, and here it is.

0:55:450:55:51

It's from Head of Press from Epic, which is a division of Sony, Sony Music,

0:55:510:55:58

which was Michael Jackson's record company, and it confirms that this was thrown from Michael Jackson

0:55:580:56:05

-at his 30th birthday, during the Bad tour.

-Yes.

0:56:050:56:11

-Have you ever worn it?

-Yes.

0:56:110:56:14

-Only tried it on.

-I was going to say,

0:56:140:56:17

I was sort of hoping that the last head of hair that it touched was Michael Jackson's, but it's yours.

0:56:170:56:24

-Yes.

-It feels slightly like the Holy Grail,

0:56:240:56:28

it's in great condition, it's got Michael Jackson written on the inside,

0:56:280:56:32

-just in case, I suppose, he forgot who he was one day.

-Yes.

0:56:320:56:37

He could take his hat off and be reminded,

0:56:370:56:39

but it's a valuable thing.

0:56:390:56:42

With Michael Jackson's recent death,

0:56:420:56:44

his name, and anything associated with him, really is at an all time high.

0:56:440:56:50

Earlier on,

0:56:500:56:52

one of Michael Jackson's gloves sold in Australia. I don't know if you've heard about that.

0:56:520:56:59

I know that they did, you know, I have heard that...

0:56:590:57:03

-You've heard rumours.

-Yeah.

0:57:030:57:05

The glove that was sold in Australia went for a lot of money, but I think that this will go for more.

0:57:050:57:12

I would put a figure, starting at the glove price,

0:57:120:57:17

which was the equivalent of £25,000.

0:57:170:57:21

-And go up from there.

-Really?

0:57:260:57:28

The moment is now.

0:57:280:57:31

-I will say no more.

-Yes.

0:57:310:57:33

-I know you're a huge fan.

-Yes.

0:57:330:57:35

But I think that the shares in Michael Jackson PLC, if you like, have never been higher

0:57:350:57:41

and my feeling is perhaps now is the time

0:57:410:57:45

to put your...to put your fan feelings to one side

0:57:450:57:50

and think about the money.

0:57:500:57:53

LAUGHTER

0:57:530:57:55

Things are drawing to a close here at Somerleyton Hall, and we've had some of our longest queues ever.

0:57:570:58:02

Look, I found our longest ever pencil as well.

0:58:020:58:05

So, "what's the point?" you may well ask.

0:58:050:58:07

Well, I thought I'd just draw a line under proceedings

0:58:070:58:10

and sign off, so from the Antiques Roadshow team...

0:58:100:58:13

..bye bye.

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