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There's a place in Sussex where you can travel back in time. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:11 | |
These are some of the last working oxen in the country. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
With its 15th and 16th century buildings, this place seems as if | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
the centuries have just passed it by unchanged - | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
a timeless rural idyll. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
But all is not as it seems. 40 years ago, none of this was here, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
not Chris, our oxen herder, not the animals, not the fields, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
not even the buildings. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
It's the remarkable location for this week's Antiques Roadshow - | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
the Weald and Downland Museum. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
BIRD TWEETS | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Today we're in West Sussex, seven miles from Chichester. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
I think our experts will approve of the Weald and Downland Museum. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
It's like a sanctuary for endangered buildings, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
rescued and lovingly rebuilt. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
But they might be surprised to find it all owes its existence to, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
of all things, Crawley New Town. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
Why? Well, in the post-war years, Crawley was chosen as the spot | 0:01:50 | 0:01:55 | |
for thousands of new houses to replace those bombed out in the war. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:01 | |
To many, it seemed a dream come true, but for one man | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
it was the start of a mission. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Roy Armstrong had devoted his life to teaching | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
and the history of Sussex. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
For him, the people of Crawley were having their roots torn away. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
He described seeing wonderful medieval buildings | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
from the old village of Crawley literally consigned to the flames. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
Determined to save other timber- framed buildings from the same fate, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Roy decided to create a museum of buildings, and in 1965, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
he set about trying to find space for all his rescued houses. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
As you can imagine, with exhibits that size, you need a lot of room. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
An eccentric millionaire, Edward James, came to the rescue, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
offering Roy 50 acres of his ancestral land | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
for a peppercorn rent of a pound a year. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Soon, buildings began to arrive - | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
houses due to be submerged under a reservoir, a toll house | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
that had been hit by a lorry and was due for demolition, a granary | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
in the way of a new road, and the landscape here | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
began to change around the houses, barns and workshops. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
40 years since the museum opened, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
it's as if these buildings have always been here. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
I'm sure Roy would be delighted to know | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
that the Antiques Roadshow is setting up its stall | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
alongside one of his rescued houses from Crawley Old Town. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
So you researched this on the internet? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
Yes, but unfortunately we were unable to find | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
anything about it at all. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:32 | |
-I'm surprised, because you've got quite a lot of clues here. -Right. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
What did you put into the internet? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
-That's down to my husband, he did that. -Ah, you're blaming him. -Yes. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I am, yes. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
If you went back to the internet, what would you do with this mark? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
I would probably have to try and find the number? | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
-Would that make sense? -Start with the number? -Yes. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-That's the wrong approach. -Oh, dear, never mind! | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
-You've got this wonderful word Florian. -Right. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
-Florian ware, and underneath you've got Macintyre. -Ah-ha. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
If you put any of those in, you'd hit straight away what this is. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
-Right, OK. -When do you think it was made? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
-Erm, my mum felt that my grandmother had it in the 1920s. -OK. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
Other than that, I know nothing about it. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-I'm going to go back one generation further. -Right. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-This dates to around 1900, 1910 maybe. -Really? | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
-Why did it come to you? -Erm, my grandmother | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
passed it on to my mum, who has allowed me to have that | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
because the colours are so lovely, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
and they match the curtains that I bought for my new bedroom! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
-So it's to match the curtains? -It was, yes. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Now, when you look it up on the internet, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
you will find under Macintyre a very famous name - William Moorcroft. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
-Right. -He designed for Macintyre's | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-around the year 1900, before he went solo with his own factory. -Right. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
This is the sort of thing he did. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
-He was a brilliant designer using floral motifs. -Yes. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
-And you can see, he loved colour. -Yes. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
And all of these outlines are tube- lined, rather like icing a cake. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-Right. -So, quite sophisticated. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-You liked it because it matched the curtains. -I did, yes. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
It's probably worth somewhere in the region of, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
let's say between £600 and £900. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Never! Really? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
Gosh, I think my mum will be quite pleased with that, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
but I would never part with it, never. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Have you still got the curtains? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Erm, I have, but I don't use them. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
I love him, he's the best dog-painter in the world, for me - | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
Cecil Aldin. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
And here we've got a really amusing picture of this poor terrier | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
being fed medicine, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
inscribed, "To Dr Cameron, may your doses never grow less." | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-Who was Dr Cameron? -That Dr Cameron was my grandfather, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
and he was in practice in Clapham in London at that time, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
and I presume this was a gift from a grateful patient. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
And I would think Cecil Aldin was a grateful patient | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
because he didn't suffer from great health - | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
towards the end of his life, he went to live abroad in warmer climes. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
-Yes. -I see you've brought a photograph... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
That just shows my grandfather outside his house in Clapham. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He's got an original Scottish car - an Argyle, made in Glasgow. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
-Oh, was it? -It's a rather period piece, a lovely little picture. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-This is a very early work by Cecil Aldin. -Yes. -It's '05, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
and he was born in the 1870s, but it's a really lovely | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
illustration of how good he was as a sort of character painter | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
-and getting, you know, a dog's character. -Yes. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-And I presume this is your grandfather feeding the dog? -Yes. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
-He had a great sense of humour, Cecil Aldin. -Yes, I've seen some of | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
his other doggie pictures, and they're great fun. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
-They're very popular when they come up for sale. -Yes. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
And it's such a nice personal story - are you a doctor yourself? | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
And my father was, too, yes, we're three in a row. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Good old family doctors, love it. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Well, this I think, if it came up for auction, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
would make probably somewhere in the region of £1,500-£2,000. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
Yes, yes, so I shall have to look at the insurance a little, I think. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
Yes, thank you very much for that! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Well on the face of it, it looks like a good early Rolex Submariner. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:31 | |
-How did you acquire it? -Um, my grandfather gave it to me. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
He knew I was a big James Bond fan. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
He gave it to me about five or six years ago. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
And do you know when he bought it? | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I was under the impression it was 1952 in Hong Kong. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
'52, no, that would be a little bit early. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Let's just have a look at the reference number, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
and actually it's lucky that you haven't got the metal strap | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
because I can now see here the reference, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and there it is, it's the 6536. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
Absolutely right, it's what they refer to as the "James Bond." | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
It's not actually the one that was worn by Sean Connery | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
in the early Bond films, particularly Thunderball, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
because that was the 6538 which had the bigger winding crown. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
That's the one that collectors all want is the big heavy winding crown. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
But this is the earlier one, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
circa 1958, and the other difference is, of course, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
this goes down to 100 metres, 330 feet, and the later reference | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
goes down to 200 metres, 660 feet, that's the Bond one. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
The main thing is, it's a correct watch | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and there are a good few fakes around. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Has anybody tried to give you a price guide on this before? | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
A few years ago a local dealer said he'd give me | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
-200 quid for it. -Were you tempted? -I wasn't. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I wouldn't part with it, it's a sort of a family heirloom, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
it's close to my heart, but I'm just curious about how much it was worth. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
Damn sensible decision, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
because if you'd taken the £200 then, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
you might now have seriously regretted it. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
As I say, it's the early one, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
it has no shoulders to the winding crown, it's absolutely gorgeous, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
the condition is just as you'd expect for something of this age. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
Never, never, never have the dial repainted - | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
it will ruin an awful lot of its value. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
So that 200 quid that you could have taken, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
in this state, I'm going to quote you - | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
hope you're happy, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
£7,000 to £8,000. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
GASPS IN CROWD | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Crikey. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
You can take it away thinking you could have taken | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
that 200 quid. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
-Thank you very much. Oh. Superb. -Are you happy? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Yes, thank you very much. I'll put it on. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
JAMES BOND THEME PLAYS | 0:09:58 | 0:10:04 | |
It looks like someone's had a bit of a brutal attack on here. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-What's happened? -Yes, I'm afraid they did. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
Back in December 1965, my dad became very curious about this box, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
it had been in the family for, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
well, as long as he could remember. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
My grandfather told him it had actually been bought as | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
a job lot at an auction by my great grandfather, who was born in 1843. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
So, Dad searched around for some keys, tried various keys, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
nothing worked, and against all his best principles, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
he actually had to use a screwdriver to gently ease the lock. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
When he opened it up, he'd been told it was just a load of old bottles | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-and of no particular interest. -And there we are. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
He decided to have a look at the bottles and he picked one up. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Now, as he picked one up, something fell to the floor | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
and when he looked down, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
there was a piece of folded paper on the floor, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
and when he opened it out, he couldn't believe his eyes. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Because actually it seemed to be signed by the Duke of Wellington. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
-And here we have the folded piece of paper. -Yeah, that's right, yes. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
That was it, that was all he knew, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
so there's a Duke of Wellington piece of paper and the decanters. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
I mean my father was quite creative in his imagination, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
very interested in history, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
so immediately he thought, "Right, OK, I'll contact Coutts Bank," | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
who very, very kindly wrote back to him and confirmed that, yes, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
the Duke of Wellington did hold an account with them. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Well, what's interesting is that the cheque is dated March 1823 | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
and the cheque's for £195. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
And £195 in 1823, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
if you use an average earnings index, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
is nowadays is in excess of £100,000 | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
-So this is a cash cheque. -Yes. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
In other words, he was going to Coutts to cash | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
a cheque for £100,000 | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
-What on earth for? -The mind boggles. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Yeah, the mind does boggle, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
and the mind boggles in all sorts of different ways | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
because he had a number of mistresses over the years, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
including one called Harriet Wilson, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
who threatened to write her memoirs and he said "publish and be damned." | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Sorry, can I just stop you there. That's very, very strange. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
My daughter is called Harriet Wilson, so... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
Well, how bizarre is that? I had no idea. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Nor did I! | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
Well, there we are, how extraordinary, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
well, Harriet Wilson threatened to write her memoirs and they were | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
salacious, inevitably and he said, "publish and be damned." | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Anyway, so is this £100,000 | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
to pay off someone like Harriet, who knows? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
But there's another thing that happened in 1823 - | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
his son bought a commission in the army. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
He was in the 81st Regiment of Foot. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Was that to buy his son's commission? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-It's still an awful lot of money. -It is. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
And he, you know, it's odd to have as cash. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
But it is a campaign decanter case, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
so, did the Duke take it on his campaign? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
In which case, was it at Waterloo? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
And then subsequently he kept using it and a few bottles got smashed? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
-We just don't know. -Just never know. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
So, as far as valuation is concerned, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
the easiest part is the cheque. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Cheques from Wellington appear on the market | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
and as a cheque it's worth, perhaps £50. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
-Right. -As a Duke of Wellington cheque. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
The campaign decanter case is a little bit tired, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
to be perfectly honest. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
There are two decanters missing, the rest are a little bit nibbled, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
so it's worth £600 maybe a little bit more, it's that sort of order. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
But if we could ever prove that this | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
was taken to the Battle of Waterloo, then it's worth tens of thousands. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
-So a wonderful thing. -Thank you very much, thank you. -Thanks. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
At first sight, this looks like a well modelled version of an eagle, | 0:13:53 | 0:14:00 | |
-do you know what it is? -Yes, well, it's a car mascot, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
either to go on the radiator cap or, in fact, be screwed on to the bonnet. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
Well, that's absolutely right, because if we take it out, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
you can see it's got this thread | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
which would have gone onto the radiator cap, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
or onto the bonnet, as you say. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Does it have any history that you know about? | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Well it does. It was given to me by a friend, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
who used to be a private secretary | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
to the old Duke of Kent, Prince George. Oh, yes. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
He received it from Hurstpierpoint College, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
which is where I went to school. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
That's quite nearby, isn't it? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-It's quite nearby, just over the top there. -Yeah. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
And this was for opening the chapel tower, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
and the eagle represents the weather vane, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
on top of the chapel tower. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
How wonderful! So, that's not a bad thing to be given | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
because there's something rather special about this | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
from all other car mascots, and that's... | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
It's actually made of silver, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
because if we pick it up and look here, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
it's got a nice set of hallmarks. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Maker's mark W&H, that's for Walker and Hall. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-Right. -Crown, that it's made in Sheffield | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
and the date letter for 1930, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
and it actually has a slightly 1930s look about it. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
But, you can imagine you don't really drive round | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
in a car with a silver mascot | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
on the front because it's likely to get nicked. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
But silver mascots are incredibly rare for that reason. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
-Right. -And, also, because they're not legal any more, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
you can't put a mascot on a modern car because, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
for health and safety reasons, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
they've become very, very collectable, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
so, something like this, with a good story behind it, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
is going to be sought after by... | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
I can think of quite a few collectors | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
that would be really keen to have something like this. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
If this was plated, or made from another metal... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
-Right. -..it would only be worth a few hundred pounds | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
but, because it's silver, it's so much rarer, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
with that great story, £2,000-£3,000. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Good Lord! Really? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Oh, well, that's a nice gift to have received, isn't it? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
-Thank you very much indeed. -Thank you. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
A beautiful portrait of a lovely lady. Can you tell me who she is? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Yes, she was my granny, Nadia. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
She was born in Irkutsk in central Siberia, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
-which is a long way from where she died, which was Paddington. -Wow! | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
But, on the way, she was taken with her father and with her siblings | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
on the Trans-Siberian Railway, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
where they met a lot of people. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
There were 90,000 people working on the railways... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
At the time. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
-..at the time. And some of the people were circus people. -Right. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So, they taught her, and her brothers and sisters, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
how to do different acts, singing and dancing, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
-magic acts, acrobatics and things. -Acrobatics. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Acrobatics! And when they got down to Vladivostok | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
that was the journey's end, I think it was two years later, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
they then joined a circus, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
which took them down the whole length of China, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and they eventually got down to Bangkok. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
And the girls used to dance, and the girls danced so beautifully, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
and they were so elegant, that the King of Siam got to hear about this. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-Ah! -And he came around to see them. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
He said, "I want you girls to come back and dance in the palace", | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
-which they did. -Right. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
And she actually had to go with her mother to make sure | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
-there was no hanky-panky going on. -Right. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
-And, at the end of it, he gave her this bracelet here. -Wow! | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
It's composed of some coins, which are known as ticals, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
and these coins are very specific to Siam. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Now we know it as Thailand, and these ticals are usually in silver. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:37 | |
So, it's very unusual to be in gold. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
And the reason they're in gold | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
is because they're a gift from the King, so around 1910. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
The Royal Family were really the only people eligible | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
to have gold ticals. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
-It's a wonderful name, isn't it, ticals? -It is, it is. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
You've got seven in all here, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
and then with a lovely little medallion at the bottom for the... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
From the King. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
From the King, exactly. So, the Imperial crest of Siam | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
and then, of course, you've got the lovely white elephant | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
with enamel and detail here, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
and the elephant itself showing the freedom of the country. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
It's a free country, it never was invaded. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
In terms of value, I think in auction, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
you could see it fetching £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
-OK. -And I hope, on a good day, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
it should fetch the top end of the estimate. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Yes, I wonder if the Siamese family would like to buy it back. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
You never know. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
Give them a ring. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
One of the limiting factors of most decorative objects | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
is a factor called gravity, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
which means that basically you've got to put them on the floor, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
a table, a shelf, the mantelpiece. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
You've got to put them on a surface. The thing I love | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
about these, is they take us into another dimension | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
and I'm very keen on going into another dimension. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Great! A sun catcher. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
-Yes. -Good thing, eh? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Lovely, yes, it's wonderful, and it hangs in front of a picture window | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
and getting all the light from the west through it. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
-It's beautiful. -It glows. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
I think it kind of brings a smile to your face, it does mine. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-That's it. -It's called the Sunspot. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Generically, they're sun catchers | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
but this one is specifically the Whitefriars Sunspot | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
and it was always made in this colour | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
with sort of various striations, designed by Geoffrey Baxter | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
in 1970-ish, and they're not bad money actually. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
-So, you found yours in...? -No, it was a present. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
It was a gift, I should think in the '70s probably. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
Well, I think it's a nice... I love them. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
It's a happy thing and on a value, £100 to £150 but... | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-That's wonderful. -I think it's enough to bring a smile to anybody's face. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
I should think so. Marvellous. Thank you, Andy. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
You've probably heard by now, how the market in Chinese antiques | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
is thriving, with the Chinese | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
so keen to buy back objects from their own heritage. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Now, our ceramics specialist, John Axford, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
has set us a particularly difficult task this week. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
We have three blue and white Chinese vases. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
They don't look superficially that different, but one is basic - | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
worth about £50, one is better - | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
worth considerably more, £20,000, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
and the best one is worth £200,000! | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
So, I'm keeping my distance. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
We're going to be asking our visitors to take a look at them | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
and, at those prices, no touching. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
We've seen some interesting collections on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
over the 33 years that I've been doing it, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
but I'm almost having to restrain myself here with excitement, | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
because this is just a tiny part | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
of a huge collection of handcuffs, leg irons, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
all kinds of restraining equipment, which you've got. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-How many have you got at home? -820 different models at home. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
It was, at one time, the world's largest collection | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
and featured in the Guinness Book of Records for four years. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
A chap in America has now got a larger collection than me, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
so, I'm about second or third in the world now. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Presumably you came to this through what - the police force or...? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
No, my grandfather was a member of the Magic Circle | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
and, at the age of seven, he gave me | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
a birthday party with magic at the end of it. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
About a year later, the Houdini film was on television with Tony Curtis | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
and Mum sent me to bed halfway through it, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
and I never saw the other half of it. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Next, day I went to the library and got interested in Houdini, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
and performed at a local Scouts, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
and performed straitjacket escapes upside down from burning ropes. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
You're an escapologist? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-I was an escapologist, yes. -I know you are married. -I am married, yes. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Now, what's it like being married to a collector of anything, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
but of this kind of material? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
-Did you know he was a collector when... -Yes, I did. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
-..when you knew him? -Yes. -What did you think of that? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Well, I thought they were teasing me | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
when they told me that he had this collection of handcuffs, you know. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
So, I was quite surprised when I saw them, yes. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
-And you realised that... -That it was true, yes. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
But when you look at them, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
looking at it not from a sort of collector's point of view, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
but when you look at them, what goes through your mind? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
Well, I have to say, I know that when Chris looks at them, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
he sees how they're made and the locks and everything else. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
And I have to say when I look at some of them, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
I just see the suffering, so we look at them with different eyes. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
So, you think about who they were put on to. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Yes, yes, yes. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
-Interesting. -And some of them in particular | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
are difficult to look at for me. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
OK, so that's an interesting sort of female-male | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
different way of dealing with it. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
So, there are probably three that stand out. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
You know, I suppose these are the most bizarre, these sort of mittens. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
The most unusual, yes, yeah. Patented in 1929 by James Mackenzie, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
30 to 40 of these were actually made up | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
and they were used for transporting prisoners on the railways in America. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
Unfortunately, the prison guards found they were too effective | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
and if the call of nature was necessary for one of the prisoners, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
the prison officers refused to attend to the prisoners | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
and they were actually withdrawn, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and we know of only 22 that are still in existence 80 odd years later. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-Gosh. And this, this is part of that, is it? -Yes. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
-That's like a ball and chain. -It is. -But more... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Well, I don't know, is it as heavy as a ball and chain? | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
That weighs 16 lbs - that weighs. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
-Goodness! -And that fits on top of the stirrup | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
which is... With the boot attached to it. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
The railways found it far more useful than having a ball and chain, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
because railway workers could get on with their duties far more better, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:04 | |
but, with this attached to your leg, it's virtually impossible to run. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
It's very disorientating. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
-One leg weighs 18 lbs more than the other leg. -Absolutely. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
-It's virtually impossible to run away. -One can see that. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
If one had to say which is the most valuable here, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
would it surprise me? Would it be the least obvious? | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
I think probably the most valuable will be these bar cuffs here, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
which I would... The last pair of those sold, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
there's only two pairs known, and the pair that recently sold | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
didn't have the belt attached to it, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
and they fetched 17,000, and that was about three, four months ago. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
-A remarkable collection. -Thank you. -Fascinating history. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
And thank you very much indeed | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
for breaking them out of the attic and bringing them down here. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
-Thank you very much. -Brilliant. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
Blue and white china, three vases that don't look that different. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
But the basic one is worth £50, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
the better one £20,000, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
the best one is worth £200,000. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Which do you think is which? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
I'd probably say this was the cheapest one. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
-The cheapest, basic one? -Yeah, basic one. -OK. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
Which do you think is which? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
I think perhaps this one, about 50 quid, something like that. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
-OK, so that's the basic one, right. -Yeah. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
-This one would be better. -Right. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
-I think the middling one is this one here. -That one. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
200,000. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
This one's the most expensive. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
-The best? -Yeah. -You think this is the best? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
That's the most expensive one. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
-That one. -Would you like something like this in your home? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
I'd love to have something like that in my home, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-thanks, if you're offering. -You must be joking! | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
Well, what a funny little thing! | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Why have you brought it today? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Well, it actually belongs to my mum, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
and it was given to her by a very good friend in the 1960s. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
-She just saw it and sort of gave it to my mum as a gift. -Right. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
-She said it was old then. -Yes. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
But I don't know what it is, where it came from, nothing. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
It's very much under speculation, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
but I think that the key to it is that it's decorated | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
with enamelled flowers, and it's clearly made of silver | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
and it's in brilliant condition because it's oxidised, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
it's blackened and it gives a feeling of deep antiquity to it, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
-which I think it deserves. -Right. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
It's not in absolutely perfect condition, it's damaged at the back, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
but I don't think that matters terribly much | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
because what we're interested in, is what it is, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-and where it comes from. -Right. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
And I think that the enamel flowers on the front, are the key, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-because with flowers come scent, doesn't it? -Right. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
And there was a positive obsession with scent | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
in almost every generation but our own, for various odd reasons. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
They thought that bad humours - indeed disease - | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
-would come from the smells from which they were surrounded. -Right. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
Because of the stench and the filth in the streets with open middens | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
and animal remains, and God knows what lying around in the street - | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
-and then the conjunction of plague in these urban situations. -Right. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
They felt - completely erroneously - that the smell from the streets | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
was part of the way in which these infections invaded you. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
The way to protect yourself was to mask the smell of the urban climate | 0:27:11 | 0:27:16 | |
and to burn fragrant woods, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
to get far-fetched spices from the Orient, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
-and you'd need to fix them. -Right. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
And perfume fixative which would be ambergris or civet. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-Ambergris is a sort of phlegm coughed up by whales. -Ooh! | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
-You don't fancy that. -That's revolting! | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Coughing whales, a big cough. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
And the civet is extracted from the tail end of a rather fierce cat. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:45 | |
-So where's this all going? -I don't know. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Are you worried yet? You won't get a plague from it, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
although I rather suspect it could come from that period. Anyway... | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
To mask it you'd put the scents of the flowers, the essences, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
into these ambergris, civet, musk, and then carry them round | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
in, perhaps, little tubes of waxy material which would lodge in here, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
and then don't forget this is completely open work | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
and it's open work because the scent would exude from that | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
-and you'd carry it. -Right. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Then when plague was ripping through the country, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
as it did in 1608 in London, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
it was one of the most terrifying plagues | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
-where hundreds of thousand of people were dying. -Right. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
This is some sort of pomander. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
A pomander means an apple of ambergris | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and this is a quasi magical object, made of silver, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
decorated with enamel. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-How old is it? -It is, I believe, 17th century. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
-Possibly 18th century. -What? Right. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-The 17th century was the big plague, yeah. -Yes. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
And how to value it? I don't know, what did you think it was worth? | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
I don't know. My mother thought it was... | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
She called it a bit of old tat. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Oh, well, she was right about the old, but not about the tat. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
There's a magical cure here. People do collect these things. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
They collect them very avidly, there's a great company of people | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
who want to collect aromatic goldsmiths' work, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
which is what this is, almost jewellery, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
and I think they'd be jolly pleased to give you something | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
in the region of £2,500 for that today. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Really(?) Good heavens! | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
Gosh, she will be shocked when I tell her! | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
-Ooh... Oh, dear I'd better be more careful with it. -Better had. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
I know this is a Korean chest, but we don't know any more about it, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
so I'm hoping that you can tell us something. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
How do you know it's Korean? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
We replied to an advertisement in our then local paper in Hong Kong | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
for somebody selling Korean chests | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
and we assume, therefore, that it was from Korea. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
Well, it is Korean, definitely. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Let's look. I think the actual configuration of the drawers | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
and the doors is absolutely typical. I can't resist opening one of them. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:00 | |
-I love this butterfly motif. Isn't it pretty? -It is. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
-Is it a moth, or a butterfly? -I would assume it's a butterfly. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
It's nicer, isn't it? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
This is elm here which is very typical of Japanese, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
and to a certain extent Chinese, and Oriental furniture, to use elm. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
But when we... | 0:30:16 | 0:30:17 | |
That's very interesting, it's got a very soft pine back on it | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
and these slide back and forward. Yes, I see. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
How old do you think it is? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
I think it's 19th century, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
but I'm not certain. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
How did you get it here? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-Today? -Mm. -In the back of the car because it comes into three pieces. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
-And not too heavy? -No. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
-Nice and light, isn't it? -Nice and light, yes. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
Do you want a chair? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
No, well, I hope... I don't think so. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
-It's not very old. -Oh! Oh, how disappointing. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
Right... | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
-I'm sorry to disappoint you. It is not 19th century. -Right. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
Shame. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
We didn't spend a great deal so it's not the end of the world. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
I think I'm going to be brave, and ask you how much you paid for it. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
Well, we can't exactly remember, | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
but it was less than £100, probably quite a lot less. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
That's lucky, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
because I know that people paid over £1,000 for these | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
-in English and European antique shops. -Mm-hm. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
In probably the 1970s almost every provincial antique shop in the UK | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
had one, and probably Europe, had not exactly the same, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
but a similar type of modern Korean cabinet. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
Whether the Koreans made them as that dreadful word, fakes, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
I don't know, or whether they were making in the traditional style. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
Let's be generous and say it was traditional style, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
and somebody very cleverly started importing them. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
Had you had one of these and you bought it for £1,000, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
-I'd be saying to you today that it was worth £500. -Mm-hm. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Luckily you bought yours for... | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
You can't remember, but under £100, so yours has gone up to £500. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
Well, that's ideal, thank you very much. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
I'm quite happy with that. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Well, quite a challenge this week. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
Our ceramics specialist, John Axford, | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
has brought along three vases. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:40 | |
As you know, we were talking to our visitors in the programme earlier. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
One of them is a basic blue and white Chinese vase worth about £50. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
One of them is worth £20,000, so quite a difference. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
One of them is worth £200,000. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
And, frankly, I'm just a bit nervous standing near them. Erm... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
This is a difficult one. I've put them in the order I think they are, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
basic, better, best. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
John, how can you tell because they are all blue and white vases, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
and apart from the difference in the patterns, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
they don't look that different. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:13 | |
It is very difficult. Yes, they're all blue and white. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
They were all made in the same place, in Jingdezhen, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
and, actually, also they're all copies of earlier pieces. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
-They're all copies? -They're all copies. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
You have to start with some knowledge | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
of the history of Chinese porcelain. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Blue and white started in China in the middle of the 14th century | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
and by the time they get to the 15th century | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
they're making terrific pieces. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Some of the best Ming pieces are made then. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
These pieces then get copied and copied and copied | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
throughout the centuries. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
In the British Museum, you could see vases like all of these there. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
It never occurred to me that they would all be copies. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I assumed the one with the stonking valuation would be genuine. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
I mean, what should we be looking for? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Start with quality. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
Well, start with the designs. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
This one and this one, they're designs that go back to 1400 | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
and have been copied, but the quality should be very good. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
This vase is very fuzzy, it didn't fire very well. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Look here, there's a scar on the side. See that, like a thumb print. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
It's been made pretty badly. The colour of this blue, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
which is this very turquoisy colour | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
is really quite wrong for an early piece. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
I was hoping that fuzziness was a mark of antiquity, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
-but there you go. -I'm afraid, Fiona, this is the basic vase. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
-I'm older than this is. -No! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-So that's the basic one. -That is the basic one. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
That's worth no more than £50. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Right, I'll definitely stick to the day job. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Going on to the better, the vase nearest you. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
-This one. -This is the one I thought was basic. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
That's the one you thought was basic. Look at the decoration. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
We've got little dots painted in here, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
that's copying an earlier technique, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
it's reviving a style but the painting is rather cartoony. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
It's a good vase. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
It's quite a rare vase, late 19th century made for the Chinese. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Yes, in auction today that's £20,000. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
See, I thought it looked... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
I mean, I'm embarrassed to show my ignorance, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
but it looked like it had been transferred on, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
-obviously it's hand painted, then? -Yeah, all three are hand painted. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Right. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Da, da, da, da, da! | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
This is obviously the humdinger. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
Now, it's beautiful, but why is this | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
worth at least £200,000, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
because it doesn't look that dramatically different? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
It is brilliantly painted, the painting, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
the quality is fantastic. It dates from the 18th century. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
There is only one original Ming vase like this is known to exist | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
in the Percival David Foundation in the British Museum in London. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
-So an original? -There's only one... -Would be worth? -Who knows? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-Millions. -Many, many millions. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
They started reproducing this design in the 18th century. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
It is difficult to tell, it's about the quality of the painting, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
the space of the decoration, the surface of the glaze, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
the way the base is finished | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
and all of these things come together | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
to make it a genuine 18th century piece. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
It's a terrific vase | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
and, yes, it is coming up for auction | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
and I'm expecting it to make in excess of £200,000. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Gosh! | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
-Blimey! -Quite! | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Well, I'm embarrassed by my lack of scholarship, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
let me just move these round then. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
It breaks my heart to do it, so basic, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
better, best. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
I could not have got it more wrong. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
If you have some blue and white china at home, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
who knows? It may be worth £200,000. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
We'd love to see it at the Roadshow. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Bring it along very carefully. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
You can check out our locations on our website: | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
bbc.co.uk/antiquesroadshow. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Fiona, one final thought. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
-You got all three wrong. -Yes. -You don't get the job, I'm sorry. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Charming! | 0:37:06 | 0:37:07 | |
Well, I hope you won't be offended | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
if I tell you that I think these extraordinary elaborate figures | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
are an affront to the modern taste for minimalism. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
Minimalist they are not. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
I mean, the detail in them is breathtaking, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
wonderful little shells | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
and a lady selling fish here, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
and the chap with a hare and a duck on a stick over his shoulder. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
Really richly elaborate and wonderfully decorative things. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
What do you know about them? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
I know they were a wedding present to my wife's great grandparents. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:48 | |
Yeah. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
I believe, I don't know the exact year, but around 1900. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Let's pick it up and have a look at the mark | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and here we have an applied, pink triangle mark. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
Impressed into that it says Royal Dux Bohemia | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
and there's an E in the centre there | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and that stands for a man called Eduard Eichler | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and he was the proprietor of the Royal Dux factory, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
which was in a place in Bohemia called Dux. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
He specialised in elaborate, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
highly-styled and wonderful figures like this. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
Date-wise, it works very well with your family provenance about 1900, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
-that fits for me. -OK. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
But, you know, looking at these figures in the 21st century, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
we live in a land of black leather sofas, white walls, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
blonde wood floors | 0:38:43 | 0:38:44 | |
and, you know, 20 years ago, when I started looking at things like this, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
people tried to make their houses like the inside of a country house, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
or a Victorian villa. The more you could stuff into them, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
the more elaborate they were, the better. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
Now it's exactly the opposite. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
That's why I say, you know, these things are just | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
the antithesis of British taste | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
and the value of them is almost like a barometer of that taste. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
At auction today, I think, these wonderfully elaborate, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:15 | |
richly decorative, high quality figures are worth | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
-in the region of £800 to £1,200. -OK. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
But when I tell you that 20 years ago, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
when I started doing this job, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
they were worth twice as much, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
1,500 to 2,000. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
-One day, they'll come back. -Well worth keeping hold of. -Keep 'em. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
This is a stunningly pretty clock. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
Can you tell me anything about its past life? | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
Well it was given to my grandmother for her wedding, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
-and we think it was about 1903 that she was married. -Right. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
And here she is. | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
-In the middle. -In the middle. -I love all the costumes. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
-Are they all related? -They're all sisters. -Good heavens! | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
Yes, it was a large family, and three sons too. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
And it came from your grandmother. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
It came from my grandmother and it was given to me | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
-for my 18th birthday. -It's a fabulous present. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
I particularly like the enamel dial | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
which has got a Latin lettering which I think is "festina lente" | 0:40:18 | 0:40:24 | |
and my schoolboy Latin makes me think that's something like | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
"make haste slowly." | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
She always told me it was "hurry slowly." | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
-Hurry slowly, yes, exactly. -Yes. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
But what's so nice about this is the condition, it's really gorgeous. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:40 | |
Just look at the enamel round here, this tree and the lovely colouring, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
even the colour of the dial itself is absolutely wonderful. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
You've obviously looked after it extremely well. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
I thought it was special. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:53 | |
-Yes, and it's in the high Art Nouveau taste. -Right. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
But if we turn it round, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:58 | |
what gets even more interesting are the marks at the back here | 0:40:58 | 0:41:04 | |
-and we can see it's got the mark here for Liberty & Company. -Ah. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:09 | |
Now, Liberty & Company were one of the real pioneers | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
of the Art Nouveau style, particularly at this period, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
and it's got a date letter here. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Made in Birmingham in 1901. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
That would marry with the wedding present at 1903, wouldn't it? | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Exactly, absolutely. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
They had a very important designer working for them, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
at that time, called Archibald Knox. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
-Knox designed a number of clocks. -Yes. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
-I'm pretty certain this is designed by Knox. -Right. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
-This is prettier than most. -Oh! | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
Now I have to tell you that Archibald Knox is very much | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
-the flavour of the month at the moment. -Oh! | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
So, not only have you got a lovely item, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
-you've got a rare item. -Oh. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
You've got a very collectable item. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I've got the difficult task of trying to tell you | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
what it might be worth. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
Right. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
I think comfortably £15,000 to £20,000. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
AUDIENCE GASP | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Oh! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
What a wonderful present I was given. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
-What a lovely grandmother you had. -Yes. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
This is, this is just so special and it's so wonderful. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
I've almost fallen in love again in my life. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
It is an absolutely stunning piece | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
and such a pleasure and a privilege to handle it and see it. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Well, thank you very much. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
That's really good news and the family will be delighted. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
What do you think this is? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Answers on a postcard, please. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
Scrap that, we can't cope with the admin, I'll just tell you. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
It is a prosthetic leg for a bull. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
As you tie it on. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
Tie it on here at the top | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
and look, it's articulated and everything. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
You might wonder why would anyone go to all the trouble | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
to make a prosthetic leg for a bull, lovely though they are. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
This might give you a clue. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Here's a prosthetic leg | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
and just look at the bedroom eyes that the cow is giving the bull. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
All I can say is, it must have been a very valuable blood line! | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow team | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
here at the Weald and Downland Open Air Museum, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:35 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:37 |