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The Antiques Roadshow travels the length and breadth of Britain | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
in search of wonderful objects in stunning locations. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
And today we've arrived in a city that's | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
so crammed with historical stories, it's hard to know where to begin. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from York. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
Our Roadshow experts are always on the lookout for objects | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
with a local historical flavour, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
and they should be spoiled for choice here. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
When you're in York, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
it seems you're never far from the city's 2,000-year-old history, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
starting with the station, which, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
when it was built in 1877, was the largest in the world. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
And all those trains allowed York to build itself a reputation | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
as a city of chocolate, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
as tons of the stuff was dispatched around the globe. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
But long before railways and chocolate even existed, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
York was a powerful city. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
And as you walk about, you can't help noticing the odd bit | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
of old stone, drawing you further and further back in time. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
York is the perfect stronghold, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
placed where the River Ouse meets the River Foss. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
A little further on, and the gigantic Minster, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
begun in the 13th century, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
reflects York's importance as a seat of religious power. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Even before the Normans brought their churches, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
York was at the centre of things. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Under the Vikings for 100 years, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
Yorvik was the capital of the Danelaw, and the streets still | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
follow the Viking plan, and some of them still have Viking names. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
And before the Vikings, the Romans, who founded Eboracum in 71AD | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
and made it one of their foremost cities. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Sometimes the Roman Empire was even ruled from here. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
This tower was once part of a Roman fortress | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
and now it sits in the grounds of the Yorkshire Museum. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
With a backdrop like this, it's hardly surprising our experts are looking forward | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
to finding some really terrific finds in the gardens of the museum. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Card cases of course are just so collectable, and it's wonderful | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
to see it with its original case, | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
but when did you get it? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
1983. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
And what did you pay for it? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
205 plus premium - bought in auction. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Right. So, at auction. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Looking at it, as we see here, that's more or less what | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
it would be worth today, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
until we look at the other side. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
And this makes it a very rare card case. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
-Thank you. -Because the scene is... -York Minster. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Yeah, and you see very, very few York Minsters. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
So wonderful to be in York here | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
and actually have a York Minster card case. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
So that is super. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
Most of them were made - as I'm sure you know - in Birmingham, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
and this one is no exception. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
We've got the maker's mark of Alfred Taylor there, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
then the Birmingham marks which in fact are for 1857. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
Right. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
-The condition couldn't be better. -No. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
But of course that's not only, I think, because you've looked after it properly. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
Yes, I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't in good condition. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Very wise. So what's it worth today? | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
I'm hoping you're going to tell me. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
Well, they have come down a little bit, I have to tell you, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
and I think today we're looking at between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Ooh, excellent, thank you. Well, that's a good investment, then. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Better than money in the bank. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Such a stylish object, are you a collector of the Arts and Crafts Movement? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
Just generally things that catch my eye. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
-And why did this catch your eye? -Car-boot sale about three weeks ago, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
I was with my mum, walking round, and she just really liked it. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
It was a stall full of brass plates like that, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
but not very nice ones, quite mediocre, but this one she really liked. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
And was this early on? Were you there first, the crack of dawn? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
We were there first thing. This was the first thing we bought and then | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
we left it with the man at the stall and then went back for it later. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-And how much did you pay? -£22. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
I mean it's great. I mean it's Keswick School, as you know, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
it's stamped on the back, and the Keswick School | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
of Industrial Arts was started in 1884 and it's so stylish. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
I mean you can see major influences of the day from artists | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
like William de Morgan, who was a very famous potter from London, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Charles Passenger, who decorated. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
I mean, it's so stylish, with its sort of Viking ship. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
You've got this sort of repeating fantastic floral border here, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
almost like stylised tulip heads. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
William Morris, arguably our most famous ever designer, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
who we've all heard of, was a patron. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
It's stamped, which is great, you've got it stamped there | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Keswick and then KI, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Keswick School Industrial Arts. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
-You say you left it there when you bought it at the -car-boot sale. Yes. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
-That was taking a risk, wasn't it? -Well, we didn't know. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
We just liked it and the sun was beating down | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
and we couldn't see it very well, but when we went back for it, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
the man said he could have sold it about five times, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
and he'd been offered like a lot more money, £75, which... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-75? -Yeah, at the time we hadn't seen the mark on the back. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
-My mum had turned it over but... -Sure. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
So when you paid 22 for it, who wants a copper charger like that | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
-on the wall? -Don't know. -A lot of people, that's the answer. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
I mean, it's easily £800 to £1,200 | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Wow, that's amazing. My mum won't believe me. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
It's stunning. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Of its type, it's the best you'll see and the condition's excellent, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
-Well done. -Oh, thank you. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Beautiful little bowl. Where did it come from? | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
Pretty sure it came from China because the family were in Canton | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
-in the 1850s and '60s. -Right, OK. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
There are not many Chinese dragons with three claws like this. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
Most Chinese dragons have five or four claws, so a three-clawed | 0:07:01 | 0:07:08 | |
dragon actually tells us straight away it's Japanese. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Um, it's a particularly lovely little bowl, it's very, very, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
very well painted. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
At first sight it doesn't appear to be very special, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
but if you actually think about what's gone into painting this. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
You've got this dragon chasing butterflies, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
and the butterflies are caught in this net, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
intricately painted, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
each one of the hexagons very, very daintily painted | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
and you've got a little dot where the threads of the net intersect. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
The butterfly itself is done | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
just as Japanese lacquer would be done. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
It's made of a material that we see a lot of on the Roadshow, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
but in this particular instance it's not what we normally see, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
because what we normally see is Japanese export ware, Satsuma. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
This is Satsuma that would almost certainly have been intended for a Japanese client, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
because it is essentially a little tea bowl. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Now, decoration. Very sparse colours, gold, white etc. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:15 | |
and the dragon itself, this... well, what colour is that? | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
-What colour would you call that? -I suppose lead more than... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
-It's a lead colour. -Yes. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:23 | |
Incredibly finely worked scales. These are actually silver, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
silver oxide, and when it was new, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I'm pretty sure that would have been gleaming silver. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
And, as silver does, it's tarnished over the years. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Now the question is, are you a brave man? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
I don't know. We're going to find out I think. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Well, only if you permit me. I should say that | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
whenever you clean silver, be it on a piece of pot or silver itself, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
you are technically removing one layer of molecules. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
But that is actually quite a thin measure. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
Now I do happen to carry about me a silver cloth for eventualities. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
-We can just give it a try, see what happens. -Right. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Ooh! | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
How about that? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
I'm not going to rub too hard | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
because I think we can get the general idea. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
So a really lovely little Japanese tea bowl, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
made at the end of the 19th century | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
and painted with this glorious dragon, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and it looks great, doesn't it, when it's been polished up? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Yes. It's brilliant, yes. Really see the scales on it. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
It's quite fantastic. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Value, probably somewhere in the region of, let me say, £300 to £500. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
For a little bowl, that's great. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
So, it's obviously a factory floor. Do you know where? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
I believe it's local. It's in Hull. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
-A factory in Hull. -A factory in Hull, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
and it's on the back that it's Fenners and Co. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-Fenners and Co. -Yeah, Fenners and Co. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
and I think they used to manufacture some kind of conveyor belts. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:09 | |
Oh, I see. Conveyor belts for industry or mining or something. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Yeah, I think so, for industry I think, yes. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-It's a very busy factory floor, isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
So what drew you to the picture? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
I love the movement in it, and the colours, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
and just something when I saw it, I thought, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
"I'd really like to own this." | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
It's by James Neal and it's dated 1967. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-And, you know, it's unusual to see pictures of factories. -It is. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
They're usually done as commissions | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
and I suppose this might have been as well. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Perhaps the factory owner, or the manager, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
wanted to have some record of a busy factory floor in its heyday. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
And I like it too, because I think the colours in it are very, very... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
they chime very, very well | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
and I like the way it's all laid out in a completely legible way, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
with this very open roof, lots and lots of light in this building, isn't there? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
You can almost hear the clang and clamour of the manufacturing process. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
-Exactly, yes. -It's really quite fun. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
It doesn't look finished to me. Do you? I thought it was... | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Oh, well, does it matter? I mean it's sort of finished as it needs to be. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-Right. -Isn't it, in a way? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
-Now, he's a Hull artist, isn't he? -That's right, yes, local artist. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Yes, I was wondering if he might have known that great Hull poet, Philip Larkin, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
who of course is a great hero to me | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
and he wrote a wonderful poem called Going Going, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
about the vanishing English countryside | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and the increasing industrialisation | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
and the tarmac and the concrete everywhere. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
And I also thought this might be about the vanishing world, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:43 | |
you know, and then about, well, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
you could find beauty in anything, couldn't you? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
You could find beauty in the factory floor, as here, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
and it's about mass observation, these people all working. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
So it's Britain at work and at play. Value... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
I paid £100 | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
and I thought that was a bargain for me, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
and I loved it and I'm hoping it's going to be a little bit more, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
but if not, it doesn't matter. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-I'm going to put £800 to £1,200 on it. -Wow. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
That is a surprise. Great! | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-I really think that that's what it would do. -That's lovely. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
-Lot of fun. -Thank you very much. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Well, usually when I see antique cradles, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
they're either filled with logs, next to a fire, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
or with dried flower arrangements in them. How has yours been used? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Well, all three of us have actually been in it, as babies, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
because our parents bought it. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
I'm the eldest, and they bought it before I was born, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and then, one after the other, we've been in it as babies, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
so it's been properly used. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
That's absolutely extraordinary. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
So you've actually slept in this. Whether it'd comply with Health and Safety regulations now... | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
What year did your parents actually buy this? | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
We think in late 1941 or early 1942, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
because they certainly had it by the time I was born in July 1942. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
How absolutely brilliant. Did they just like old items, or... | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Well, they were farmers, had little money, but they liked old things. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
So we know, then, it dates back to at least 1940. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
But the question is, how much further does it go beyond that? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:26 | |
Well, yes. We think considerably further, but we don't know. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
I would agree with you, I think it's about 100 years earlier. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
I think it dates from around 1840. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
It's got this wonderful painted decoration around it. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Have you worked out what the scenes relate to? | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Well, we think it's the Prodigal Son. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
I would agree with you, definitely. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
There's the scene here of one of the sons departing, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
here is the son feeding the swine, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
so that's certainly the tale it tells. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I think it's from a different area, historically known as Transylvania. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
-Oh! -And so more of that, sort of, Central Eastern Europe, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
perhaps what we now know as Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
-possibly even going closer to Russia. -Oh. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
But there has been so little research done | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
-into furniture from that region. -Yes. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
It's very difficult to pinpoint where. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
And cradles, on the whole, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
don't have a particularly high value, unfortunately. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
They tend to not be used. I mean, your parents bucked the trend. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
-So, three sisters, you're in age order, are you? -Yes. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Oldest, middle, youngest. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
Do you remember seeing either of your younger sisters sleeping in it? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
Well, Laura came along a number of years after us two, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
so we definitely remember Laura in it, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
because she's 15 years younger than me, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
so she was in that, and, I mean, both of us remember her in it, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
and the occasional cry that woke us up in the night. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Well, as far as value goes, it's worth in the region of £400. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
That's really not the point of this object, is it? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
No, no, I don't think the value is of any concern. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Obviously, children have been sleeping in this for 100 years | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
before your parents bought it. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
I'm just very pleased to meet the last three people who slept in it. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Well, I'm standing here with... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
..Mr York, I think he is, isn't he? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
And what a fantastic figure he is. Where does he fit in? | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
Well, he advertised Rowntree's chocolates, Plain York, York Milk | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
and York Motoring. And Rowntree's is, of course, very big in York, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
this is where we were founded, and he was our advertising mascot. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
Amazing. So York really has this relationship with chocolate. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
It is extraordinary. And one has to say | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
that there was Rowntree's here, there's Terry's here | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
and there are other companies... There's Cadbury's and Fry's | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
but they were all Quakers, weren't they? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Oh, yes. And because they were all Quakers, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
George Cadbury and Lewis Fry were both sent to York | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
to Joseph Rowntree's father's house | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
to be apprentices in his grocer's shop. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
So Rowntree's, Fry and Cadbury were all working together as teenagers | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
and growing up together. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
That's extraordinary, I didn't know that. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
So we've definitely got the roots here of chocolate city. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Fantastic. So Mr York was a sort of advertising figure, I presume. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
And what does he do? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Well, he appeared in poster adverts and cinema adverts, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
but this particular model, built in 1928, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
he used to have a tray of leaflets on his arm | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
and he would move his arm to pick up a leaflet and hand it out | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
to whoever was passing. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
And where does he reside at the moment? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
He lives in the company archive, with me. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
So he's your co-worker, is he? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
This is my only co-worker! | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Can we get him going? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
Yes, of course. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
And let's see how great, or otherwise, he is. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
Now what's he doing? Whoa! Up go those eyebrows. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
And I love this, this sort of Dicky Bird, "It's a four." | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
What we really need is a lip reader. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
I'm sure he's actually saying something quite interesting. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
He's saying, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
"Buy Plain York Motoring." | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Wonderful. He's in great, great working order and you can imagine, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
at a trade fair, he would actually stop the traffic. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
He comes from a tradition of automata. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
If one looks back in France in the 19th century, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
these automated figures were produced for home entertainment, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
and then somebody cottoned onto the idea, "Ah, well, maybe | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
"if we make them with a big spring, we can have them in shop windows." | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
But I can imagine that having something like | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Mr York at a trade fair... It would stop the traffic, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
it would push the product, and I think he still does it. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
I think he's wonderful. When it comes to value, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
I could easily see him fetching | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
between £3,000 and £5,000. I mean, he's a great object | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
and I hope he continues to keep you company in your office for many years to come. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
He will. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Here's a very interesting looking pendant. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
It's decorated with blue enamel and pearls and diamonds | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
and the very least of the message here | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
is that it's one of very strong affection, one of love. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
These are pearls for Venus, diamonds forever, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
blue ribbons for love. But what's all this love about? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
It belonged to my mother. And she passed it on to my wife. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
It has a history behind it because there are four names - | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
well, an inscription on the back, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
and I've often wondered what it was | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and I spent a bit of time last night reading about it. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Last night! That's not much of a run-up! | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
We've had it for years. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
-You've had it for years and you got a bit exited last night. -Yes. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
It is something personal because if you look carefully | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
there is an inscription. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
What does it say? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
"To Mary from Alice, Helena, Louise and Beatrice." | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
That's the four daughters of Queen Victoria. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
It certainly is their names. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Princess Victoria is not on it, because there's a date of | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
1861 where, by that time, she was married | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
and I think living in Hanover. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-Exactly, being Empress of Prussia. -Yes. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
It's a fantastic thing, and I think with that combination of names, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
the balance of probability is you're exactly on the right track here. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
That this is a very personal souvenir, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
a very personal British royal souvenir, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
and not only does it have the inscription, but it has the hair | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-of the four princesses, doesn't it? -We assume it's the hair of the four. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
I don't think there's a shadow of doubt | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
about the combination of the names, the presence of the hair, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
the character of the jewel, which is absolutely in keeping for a jewel | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
from 1861, and this mania of the British Royal Family | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
for engraving the provenances of these small | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
intensely personal souvenirs. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Really, there's no intrinsic value here at all, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
it's all emotional value, and the message there | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
-is one of love - it's a family love really. -And it says "To Mary". | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
And who do you think Mary is? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
It's not Queen Mary as she wasn't alive in 1861. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
That's a good reason for it not to be her. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
-It's Queen Mary's mother, I think, Mary of Teck. -Absolutely. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
The Princess Mary that you're talking about - | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
and it may well be her, I'm not absolutely certain that it is - | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-is a granddaughter of King George III, I think. -Yes. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Which really is - as they say - pushing it a bit. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
This is a very, very Royal lady indeed. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
but what I can tell you about this jewel | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-is that it's given in April 1861, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Six months later, the character of this jewel would have changed | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
in colour, and importance, and focus, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and everything else that you can possibly imagine. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
And the reason is that Prince Albert, their father, died | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
just before Christmas in 1861. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
And this is all joy, and all love and all family connections | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
and an intensely personal souvenir of family affection, which was | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
to be utterly and completely wrecked just before Christmas in 1861. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Yes. -Prince Albert died, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Queen Victoria wrote to King Leopold of Belgium the day after his death. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
She said, "My life as a happy one is ended. The world has gone from me." | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
I believe most definitely that these are the four royal princesses. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
They're giving it to a Mary, and we yet have to find out who that is. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
With a bit of work, I think we will. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
An extraordinarily intimate present from | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
the four princesses of the United Kingdom of Great Britain | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
and Ireland. So how to value it? | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I think this thing is certainly worth - | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
I'm going to say £3,000 to £5,000. Closer to five. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Well, it doesn't matter. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It doesn't matter to me - at all! I've loved it. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
With temperatures going way over 80 | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
-today, the thought of going swimming is mega-appealing. -Absolutely. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
And you've very kindly brought us along a collection of swimsuits. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I have. It's part of my collection. I collect costume and textiles | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
and this is just a very tiny part of my costume collection. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
But we rarely ever see bathing costumes. Why is that? | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
I think they're more and more difficult to come by. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
I mean, certainly to find something these days is very difficult. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
I've collected this over the last maybe 20 years, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
and it's just part of my passion really for social history | 0:22:25 | 0:22:31 | |
and why changes happen in fashion. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Now, one always thinks it's the Victorians who started the fashion | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
in bathing and the famous resorts - so when did it all start? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
I think it probably goes back earlier than that, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
certainly to the spa towns of Regency times. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
If you think of Scarborough and Brighton, for example, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
the Prince Regent brought the seaside into fashion, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
so promenade dresses became very prominent, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
and then spa therapies which took on board the benefits of water, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:07 | |
then that really came to bring spa resorts such as Scarborough | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
to the front of fashion. So certainly by the mid 19th century, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
-it was becoming popular. -So, what's the earliest example you have here? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
The earliest pieces I would say are the red one over here | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and this maroon one, which are late Victorian/Edwardian, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
so maybe 1890-1900. And they're quite interesting because they're made of | 0:23:31 | 0:23:37 | |
very thick cotton, which, to wear a dress like this today | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
would be quite difficult - but also there would be bloomers underneath. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
-Fantastic. -And the ladies would also wear stockings and boots - we have | 0:23:47 | 0:23:53 | |
-some examples here - to go into the sea. -And then | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
obviously in the Edwardian times it wasn't quite so conservative, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
-they revealed a little bit more? -That's right. The one down here, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
the striped blue one, I think that's a gentleman's costume. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Oh, this is what I would have worn. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
Because frequently the gentlemen's costumes would have skirts on them. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:15 | |
-OK. -Just to protect modesty because | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
they're very revealing, being knitted, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
so even the gentlemen would need to wear a skirt. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
What sort of prices do you have to pay for the more important pieces? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
It's difficult to know, because it's such a long time that I bought them, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
but maybe £100 I probably paid for something like this. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
Maybe these were - I don't know - £20, £50. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
I think they're glorious and I think they're fabulous | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
for a spa town to have an exhibition of this. I'm sure from | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
a museum point of view, they belong in your collection obviously, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
but it would be great to see more of these sort of things in museums, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
-as they are a social history. -They are, yes. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
It's a very popular pastime. Hundreds of thousands of people | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
used to go to the seaside to take the waters. This is what they wore. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
MUSIC: "I Do Like To Be Beside the Seaside" | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
This is a really pretty glass, so where does it fall into your life? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Given to us about 30 years ago by an elderly lady, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
friend of the family, long since deceased. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
So, why have you brought it along today? | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Well, I wasn't sure whether it was what I would call a reproduction, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
being made fairly recently, or whether it was an original. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
And how old do you think it would be, if it were original? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
Oh, I would think about 1790 or thereabouts. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I think it's just a little bit earlier than that, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
and it's absolutely right. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
It's a facet stem wine glass, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
and isn't it funny that if you were to come round to mine | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
for dinner tonight, and I were to offer you wine in this glass, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
you'd think I was a miser, you'd think, "What a stingy portion." | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
But, of course, the reason that wine glasses of this period | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
-are so small is they were for toasting. -Yes. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
So, you would have it refilled at the sideboard, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
it would be brought to the table by one of your servants - | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
one of your many servants, I'm sure, in your case - | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
and then you would make the toast and then it would be... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
-Bottom's up. -All in one. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
All in one. It contains a mouthful. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
And that's a way we can date these, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
in that that toasting etiquette | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
really died out by about 1780, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
so you're on the right sort of lines, but just a little late. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
I think this is about 1770-1775, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
and it would be a wheel-engraved cipher. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Now, what we're missing from this cipher | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
which would really be helpful is the crown - | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
to work out whether it's a baronet's crown, or a ducal | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
or a knight. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
So... And these are very difficult to work out. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
If you could lock this in to a particular owner, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
you're going to add - | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
its value as it stands is | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
-£400. -It's one of a pair. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
They would be worth £800. I think my maths is right. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
-Yeah! -But if you could add a name, if you work out | 0:27:29 | 0:27:35 | |
who that belonged to, then you've just broken the thousand barrier. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
-Uh-huh. -So I'll leave you with that little job. -Yeah, thank you. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
It's the most glorious summer's day here in York, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
and of course the sun is out, the sky's beautifully blue | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
and we've got lots of lovely white clouds, and you've brought in | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
an absolute gem, a lovely cloud study which is signed. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
If it wasn't signed, one might think that perhaps | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
it was by Constable or perhaps one of his followers. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
But of course it's not - | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
-it's by the great 20th century artist, Edward Seago. -That's right. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
-So, where did you find it? -It was on a dealer's website | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
about five years ago and I really couldn't afford it | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
and I went horrendously overdrawn for it, but I just couldn't resist it. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
I kept looking at it on the website every week | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and in the end I thought, "Go for it". Because I like Constable, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
which you alluded to, and I thought, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
"It might be the next best thing, and I can afford it - just." | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
It's a little jewel, this picture by Seago, and of course I think | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
probably it was done - well, it was probably just a picture | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
that he enjoyed to paint, probably one of those great little studies | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
that he would do as a painter enjoying paint rather than | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
having to do it as a commission. You can tell that he's actually | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
technically very, very good and it gets away from all those wonderful | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
but rather prolific Norfolk landscapes that he painted | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
and that we all recognise him through. I just love this | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
and actually if I'd seen it and had to go overdrawn | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
I would have probably done the same thing as you. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
-Have you dated this picture? -No, no. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I knew he died in 1974, the year I was born, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
but I didn't know when it had been painted. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
I think it's probably quite early because I think | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
prior to him doing these great commissions | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
and those wonderful landscapes, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
we know that he had quite a weak heart | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
so he was there, certainly in his teens, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
painting studies and sketches from his bedroom. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
I suspect this was probably done in his 20s or 30s, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
so we're looking at 1930-1940. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
But it's unusual, it's a total one-off little painting. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
So it is worth not as much as some of those great landscapes | 0:29:39 | 0:29:45 | |
-that make thousands and thousands of pounds. -No. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
But I certainly could see someone paying at least £3,000 to £5,000 | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
for it, perhaps even £4,000 to £6,000 for it. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
That's great, that's great. That's a little bit more than I paid | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and I really love it and I'm happy with that. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
-Fantastic. -Thank you. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Now, this is a very curious looking object, isn't it? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
It looks a bit like a pocket watch, doesn't it? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
The fact is, it looks a bit like a pocket watch | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
-but that's a disguise. Do you know what it's a disguise for? -No. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
It's a disguise for a camera. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
Now, what makes you think that a camera might be | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
disguised as a pocket watch? Why would they want to do that? | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Because, like, if you thought it was a pocket watch, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
you could have it in your pocket, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
but if you took it out and it was like... took a picture - | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
they might not think it was a camera. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Perfect. You've hit the nail right on the head. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Because what this is is a kind of detective camera. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
It's a class of camera that's called a subminiature detective camera, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:53 | |
and it was made very specifically for taking photographs secretly. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
So you can imagine some spy might have used this camera. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
In fact, I'm probably going a little bit too far, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
because really I think these cameras were really a bit of fun as well. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
This particular camera is called a Ticka camera. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
You've probably noticed that it has an inscription on the back | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
which says "Ticka", and it's called a Ticka because obviously it looks | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
a little bit like a watch, a pocket watch, and hence the name Ticka. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
And this one was made by a company called Houghtons in London. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:32 | |
Now, Houghtons made this Ticka pocket watch camera | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
between 1905 and 1914. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
The person that designed this was a gentleman called Magnus Neill, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
and he was a Swedish gentleman. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
If we look at it, we see here there's a cap on the end | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
which looks like the winder for the watch. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
If we take that off, in fact, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
what it reveals is the lens for the camera. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
In fact, if we cock the camera - to get it ready to work - we pull | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
this lever back here, and to fire the camera, we point it | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
and we push this button and that's the exposure, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
the picture is being taken. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Now, I want to know if there's any family history. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
-Do you have any spies in your family? -No. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
No spies in your family. OK. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
My nan found this in the drawer | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
and she thought it might have been good for an antique. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
Right. Shall we talk about value? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
What do you think, are you interested in how much it's worth? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Thought you might be. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
This one is probably going to be worth | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
around about £200 in this condition. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Quite a lot of money, isn't it? How much pocket money do you get a week? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
-£2.50. -£2.50. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
-That's quite a lot of pocket money, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-It's going to take a lot of £2.50s to get to £200. -Yes. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
I think you should ask your nan if you can look after this. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
-What do you think? -Yeah. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Thank you very much for bringing it, it's a really interesting thing. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
Now, when I was a boy - oh, longer ago than I care to remember - | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
I used to collect hand grenades, of all things. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
Quite a weird thing to collect, but that got me into militaria | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
-and that's why I'm doing the job I'm doing today. -Right. -Right. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
But very interested in Mills bombs in particular, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
the standard sort of pineapple-looking grenade. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
-Oh, yeah, yeah. -Yes. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:22 | |
And I see here it says "details of production - Mills grenades, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
-"2.2 million Mills bombs made." -Yeah. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:32 | |
Now, what is this? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
My great-grandfather...? | 0:33:33 | 0:33:35 | |
Great-grandfather, yeah. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
Yeah, great-grandfather. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
..was the general manager of the Falkirk Iron Company | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
and they went into grenade making and things in the... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
-Shells as well. -Shells and things. -And bombs. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
..in the First World War. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
So before the First World War, there were a huge number of factories - | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
some large, some small - all over the country, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
manufacturing all sorts of things from tin baths to kettles. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
An extraordinary range of metal objects | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
and during the First World War, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
because arms were desperately needed, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
a huge number of factories were changed over to armament production, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
and presumably that's what happened to the Falkirk Iron Company. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
Yeah, they were producing baths, I think. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
Baths and ovens and things, stoves, things like that before. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:27 | |
Well, here we see, if we turn over some of the pages, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
we've got photographs of the manufacturing processes. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Now, here they're manufacturing... What does this say? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Two-inch Howitzer bombs, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
and you've got these men working in a factory in the production process. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:43 | |
So this must have been fairly early on in the war. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
I would have said so, yeah. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Because later on, of course, the men were all called up to fight. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-Yes. -And women started to go into the manufacturing process | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
and into the factories. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
Here are two women with Mills bombs, with hand grenades, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
-actually making the hand grenades. -Yeah. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
I mean, this is amazing because, you know, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
these are very, very unusual photographs, they really are. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
And I just can't believe... | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
Look at the boxes, look at these crates of empty hand grenades, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
that's the most extraordinary thing. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
-I bet you didn't have that many in your collection! -I certainly didn't, that's quite true. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
I don't have them any more, I sold them. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
Now this photograph is titled "assembling" | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
and you see the whole factory floor is full of women, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
-and of course you wouldn't have got that before the First World War. -No. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
So it's a great testament to the power of women | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
working in munitions factories. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
If they were filling these grenades, this would have been pretty dangerous work. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
-I should imagine. -Yeah, mm. -Very dangerous work. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
But, you know, another thing is you have to think of the human cost | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
of manufacturing these grenades, because many of these munitions | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
would have been used in France and Belgium and Germany | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
and would have killed countless soldiers, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
so we have to think about the human cost of it. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
But, of course, if these weren't manufactured, many of us wouldn't be here today. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
-That's also true, yeah. -You've got a social document here... | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
-Yeah. -..to show what happened during the First World War. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
A collector would pay you... | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
-£300 to £500. -Right. Blimey. -Right, thank you. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
You looked slightly surprised when I opened this | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
-and I wanted to talk about it. -Yes. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Why were you surprised? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Well, cos when I was given it, I always thought | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
it's not the most beautiful piece of jewellery, but it is quite unusual. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
So therefore you don't wear it, I assume. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
No, no, I've never had occasion to wear it. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
-Never had an occasion? -No. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
There's always an occasion to wear jewellery. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
-Well, my mission is for you to start wearing it. -Right. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
After I've explained a little bit about it. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
What is lovely about this is the craftsmanship. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Now that is the first thing that springs out at me, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:04 | |
and it is in the shape of a Maltese cross, or a Latin cross, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
they used to use those motifs a lot | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
in the late Georgian, early Victorian period. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
-It's quite a bold cross, isn't it? -Yes. -And it's quite a large cross. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
But at the same time, there's that femininity about it, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
and so I think they've done this very cleverly, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
in that they have used chalcedony | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
to carve the actual cross, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
and yet, inside, there is this wonderful goldsmithing | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
and craftsmanship going on. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
There seems to be different colours of gold - | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
there's like a silver and a rose and a yellow gold as well - | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
so there's all different colours. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
Exactly, now that is because the goldsmiths at the time, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
they weren't happy with just yellow gold, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
they wanted to have other colours in the gold as well, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
-so they would put copper in with the gold to make it red. -Right, yes. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
They put silver in with the gold to make it of a green tint, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
but that's why you've got what looks like green gold, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
red gold and you've got silver here as well. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
But also they've got this emerald. Now... | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
-Is that what it is? -Yes, it's an emerald. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
Oh, right, I didn't know that. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
And emerald was used for... Green is for hope. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
-There was a lot of symbolism during the Victorian period. -Yeah. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
You have the pearls there for purity and honesty, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
so you've got the love of Christ, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
hope of the love of Christ and its purity. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
That emerald... | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
Even though this looks like it was probably made in England, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
But that emerald probably would have come from South America. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Oh, right. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
-I mean we're talking, you know, 1840. -Really? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
We're talking a long time ago. Have I convinced you yet? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
Well, I'm thinking about it, yeah. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Are you thinking about it? Excellent. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
I must admit, the more I look at it, over the time, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
because it gets put away and gets pulled out. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
The first time I saw it was like, "Oh, God," but now it's actually... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Yeah, you have to look at it and you have to look at the detail. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
-The appreciation of it. -Yeah. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
When you appreciate it, and you see the craftsmanship, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
-you'll want to wear it. -Yeah. -Value. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
Well, I would say it's going to be in the region | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
of around £600 to £800 at auction. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Really? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:14 | |
I think it'll look fabulous on you. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
-Brilliant, thank you. -So go and wear it. -I think I will. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Now this little bell tells two great stories. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
The first one, it's crested to Lancing. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-This was when people started to go on holidays. -Right. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Just after all the railways, so people went to the seaside | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-and they picked up a little souvenir like this bell. -OK. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
-But this is a bit unusual. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
Because it's also about the suffragettes. Yeah. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
What did you think about it? Why did you want it? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
Well, it's actually my mum and dad's bell, but I've always loved it. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
-This is an incredibly important thing for you and I. -Yes, yes. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
You know, women didn't have the vote, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
the Women's National Society For Suffrage started in 1872. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
By the time this little bell was made... | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
-I mean, women over 30 got the vote in 1918. -OK. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
But only if they were a householder, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
married to a householder or had a university degree. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Right. OK, right. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
-So we didn't get the vote, really, until 1928. -No. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
But this was the period where everybody wanted to, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
-you know, support the suffragettes. Certainly women did. -Yes, exactly. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
-So this was bought. It's a very unusual little bell. -Yes. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-I've seen a lot of crested ware but this is unusual. -Right. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
-But the bad news is that nobody wants crested ware at the moment. -That's fine. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
Completely out of fashion. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Most bits of crested ware I look at, I'm saying two, three pounds. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
-Yeah. -This piece? -Right. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
-It's about suffragettes. -Yes, yeah. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
It's a lovely bell, it's made by Arcadian Company | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
and I'd say you'd easily get at least £100. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Oh, wow! Oh, fantastic. I wasn't expecting that from that, no. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:52 | |
But that's... For you and I, this was a very important thing. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Yes, exactly, yes and we just love that bell anyway, so... Thank you! | 0:40:55 | 0:41:00 | |
-Motor cycles and mice, a very strange mix. -Yes. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Who is Harold King? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Harold King was my great uncle. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
There's a picture of him, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
and he was the president of the Eboracum Motor Cycle Club. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
OK, and there is the enamel badge of Eboracum Motor Club. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:20 | |
Eboracum being the old Roman name for York. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Do we know when it was founded? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
I'm not sure, no. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
-No, because it's still going today. -Yes, it is. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
I think it was founded in the early 20th century, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
some time around 1910-1915. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
This is made locally by none other than Robert "Mousey" Thompson. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
Robert Thompson, he was a Victorian by birth | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
and he made this in a traditional Arts and Crafts way, | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
following the sort of William Morris... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
No fuss, it's air-dried oak, British oak, | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
made locally at Kilburn in the Hambleton Hills | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
-not, what, 10 or 15 miles from here? -Mm-hm. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
I'm familiar with him because I went to school in York | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
and our school had furniture by the Mouseman. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
And of course as a little boy, my eyes were always drawn to the mouse | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
and I've learned since there's mice all over York - wooden ones. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
But this is a really interesting family heirloom. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
-Shall we have a look? -Yes. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Now I know the collective word for a group of mice | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
is apparently a mischief. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
-Oh, right. -So we have a mischief of mice in the form of napkin rings. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
Have you ever used them? They look absolutely... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
-They've never been touched. -No? Each one has a mouse. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
Now I know that, today, a mouse costs something like £20 per mouse, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
in man time, to carve, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
so you've got a lot of mice hours built up in this little group. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
It was awarded in 1962, he was then secretary. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
Where's the mouse, then? | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
It's on the back, let's have a look, there he is. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
And it's an incuse mouse rather than on the napkin rings being in relief, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
so just in his own little arch, just the ears, the body in silhouette. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
It's absolutely smashing. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
Value? Well, the box is very personal to you and to him, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
but the napkin rings are, you know, lovely. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
I think as a group, £600 to £800 | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
would be my sort of estimate at auction. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Gosh, right. It's more than we thought. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
Well, you may know that on this series of the Roadshow, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
we've been playing a bit of an interesting game, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
where we're presenting people with three similar objects. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:39 | |
One that's basic, one that's better and one that's best, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:44 | |
and I wonder, you know, looking at this... | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
motley crew of objects you've brought along to the show today, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
whether, you know, the viewers would find any one of these pieces | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
standing out from any of the others. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
But could you tell me collectively where they come from, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
-what their history is. -From my mum's side of the family. -Right. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-Grandparents. These two plates are off my dad's side of the family. -OK. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
The paperweight was my mum's cousin's grandma's. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
-Right. -My mum sort of got that when she was about ten, off her cousin. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
But the other one's my grandparents', | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
they were always on their fireplace. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
-Yes. -Same with these, really. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
-So they've all played an important part in family history, really. -Yes. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
I think you might suspect that there's one piece on this table | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
that's been making my little heart go all of a flutter. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
These are nice decorative objects, these ones, | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
but probably if you add them all together, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
they won't make more than a couple of hundred pounds. Modest value. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
This is the kind of thing we see on the Roadshow all the time. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
-And then there's this one. -Right. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
And it's a paperweight and it's made of glass | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
and you can see it's got... | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
..a little pansy there and a pansy bud, | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
-a rose and a rose bud and two thistles, just there. -Yeah. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
And they're tied together with a little pink ribbon | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
at the bottom of the stems. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
When I first saw that, I could hardly believe my eyes. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
-Really? -Have you any idea where it's from? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
-No. -The best ones are made in France. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
Right. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
This is a French one. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
And there were three famous makers. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
There was St Louis... | 0:45:31 | 0:45:32 | |
..there was Baccarat and there was Clichy, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
-and this is a Clichy one, but it's not marked, is it? -No. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
But this rose that I pointed to. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
-Yeah. -It's a Clichy rose and we know this is a weight made by Clichy. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:47 | |
You might ask, "Why these three flowers?" | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
And there are some paperweight collectors | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
who think there's a significance with the Crimean War. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
Because in the Crimean War, England and Scotland were - | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
-for a change - allied with France, represented by the pansy. -Yeah. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
So there may be that kind of significance. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
And we know the Crimean War was 1853-56, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
so, really, I'm telling you this is mid-19th century. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
There's a huge number of collectors of these paperweights. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
-There are lots and lots of rich collectors in America. -Right. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:22 | |
And they're selling really well | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
and, you know, they make in salerooms all the time | 0:46:24 | 0:46:29 | |
-£500... -Gosh. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
..or £1,000. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
But this one is different. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:37 | |
Right. Thanks(!) | 0:46:37 | 0:46:39 | |
Sorry, I'm being cruel. This one is different. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
There are a very, very small number of these weights around. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:48 | |
I sold one recently, so I know exactly what it's worth. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:53 | |
-Right. -It sold... | 0:46:53 | 0:46:56 | |
for £22,000. | 0:46:56 | 0:47:02 | |
Never! | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
Oh, Mum! | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
-22,000? -22,000. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
I used to say to my wife, I used to say, | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
"That paperweight that's always on the dressing table, shall I move it? | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
"I'm sick of seeing it." | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
-Well, I think it's wonderful. -Wow. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
It must be one of the best paperweights we've seen on the Roadshow. It's fantastic. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
Thank you. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:28 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
Gosh, go and tell Mum now. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
-Good. -Thank you very much. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
Good. So what's your mother doing today? | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
She's at home making piccalilli, actually. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
Making piccalilli, while you're here getting that kind of news. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
Do you think you ought to give her a ring and let her know? | 0:47:42 | 0:47:46 | |
And do you know what? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:47 | |
She did just that, phoning her there and then. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
Want to see what happened? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:51 | |
-Hello? -'Hello, love. Have you just rung?' | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
I have, yeah. I've got some news for you about your paperweight, Mum. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
'What?' | 0:47:59 | 0:48:00 | |
You're on loud speaker. It's worth £22,000. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
'No, it isn't! Don't be so daft.' | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
You're on loud speaker, Mum, it is. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
-'No, it isn't.' -It is! | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
HER MUM LAUGHS | 0:48:12 | 0:48:13 | |
-Never! -Yes, it is, Mum. Yeah. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
'Good grief. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:17 | |
'I can't believe that sum, I've had that since I was a little girl.' | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
I know, I know. Well. I'll let you go | 0:48:20 | 0:48:22 | |
and I'll phone you again in a minute. Love you, bye. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
Oh, how lovely. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:48:27 | 0:48:28 | |
What a terrific way to end our day in York. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
Best go and check your paperweights now. Or better still, | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
bring them along to a Roadshow. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
From York and the whole team, bye-bye. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 |