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The Antiques Roadshow travels the length and breadth of Britain

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in search of wonderful objects in stunning locations.

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And today we've arrived in a city that's

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so crammed with historical stories, it's hard to know where to begin.

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Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from York.

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BELL RINGS

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Our Roadshow experts are always on the lookout for objects

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with a local historical flavour,

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and they should be spoiled for choice here.

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When you're in York,

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it seems you're never far from the city's 2,000-year-old history,

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starting with the station, which,

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when it was built in 1877, was the largest in the world.

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And all those trains allowed York to build itself a reputation

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as a city of chocolate,

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as tons of the stuff was dispatched around the globe.

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But long before railways and chocolate even existed,

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York was a powerful city.

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And as you walk about, you can't help noticing the odd bit

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of old stone, drawing you further and further back in time.

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York is the perfect stronghold,

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placed where the River Ouse meets the River Foss.

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A little further on, and the gigantic Minster,

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begun in the 13th century,

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reflects York's importance as a seat of religious power.

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Even before the Normans brought their churches,

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York was at the centre of things.

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Under the Vikings for 100 years,

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Yorvik was the capital of the Danelaw, and the streets still

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follow the Viking plan, and some of them still have Viking names.

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And before the Vikings, the Romans, who founded Eboracum in 71AD

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and made it one of their foremost cities.

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Sometimes the Roman Empire was even ruled from here.

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This tower was once part of a Roman fortress

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and now it sits in the grounds of the Yorkshire Museum.

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With a backdrop like this, it's hardly surprising our experts are looking forward

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to finding some really terrific finds in the gardens of the museum.

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Card cases of course are just so collectable, and it's wonderful

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to see it with its original case,

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but when did you get it?

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1983.

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And what did you pay for it?

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205 plus premium - bought in auction.

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Right. So, at auction.

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Looking at it, as we see here, that's more or less what

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it would be worth today,

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until we look at the other side.

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And this makes it a very rare card case.

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-Thank you.

-Because the scene is...

-York Minster.

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Yeah, and you see very, very few York Minsters.

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So wonderful to be in York here

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and actually have a York Minster card case.

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So that is super.

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Most of them were made - as I'm sure you know - in Birmingham,

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and this one is no exception.

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We've got the maker's mark of Alfred Taylor there,

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then the Birmingham marks which in fact are for 1857.

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Right.

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-The condition couldn't be better.

-No.

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But of course that's not only, I think, because you've looked after it properly.

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Yes, I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't in good condition.

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Very wise. So what's it worth today?

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I'm hoping you're going to tell me.

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Well, they have come down a little bit, I have to tell you,

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and I think today we're looking at between £1,500 and £2,000.

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Ooh, excellent, thank you. Well, that's a good investment, then.

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Better than money in the bank.

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Such a stylish object, are you a collector of the Arts and Crafts Movement?

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Just generally things that catch my eye.

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-And why did this catch your eye?

-Car-boot sale about three weeks ago,

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I was with my mum, walking round, and she just really liked it.

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It was a stall full of brass plates like that,

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but not very nice ones, quite mediocre, but this one she really liked.

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And was this early on? Were you there first, the crack of dawn?

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We were there first thing. This was the first thing we bought and then

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we left it with the man at the stall and then went back for it later.

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-And how much did you pay?

-£22.

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I mean it's great. I mean it's Keswick School, as you know,

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it's stamped on the back, and the Keswick School

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of Industrial Arts was started in 1884 and it's so stylish.

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I mean you can see major influences of the day from artists

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like William de Morgan, who was a very famous potter from London,

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Charles Passenger, who decorated.

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I mean, it's so stylish, with its sort of Viking ship.

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You've got this sort of repeating fantastic floral border here,

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almost like stylised tulip heads.

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William Morris, arguably our most famous ever designer,

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who we've all heard of, was a patron.

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It's stamped, which is great, you've got it stamped there

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Keswick and then KI,

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Keswick School Industrial Arts.

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-You say you left it there when you bought it at the

-car-boot sale. Yes.

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-That was taking a risk, wasn't it?

-Well, we didn't know.

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We just liked it and the sun was beating down

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and we couldn't see it very well, but when we went back for it,

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the man said he could have sold it about five times,

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and he'd been offered like a lot more money, £75, which...

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-75?

-Yeah, at the time we hadn't seen the mark on the back.

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-My mum had turned it over but...

-Sure.

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So when you paid 22 for it, who wants a copper charger like that

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-on the wall?

-Don't know.

-A lot of people, that's the answer.

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I mean, it's easily £800 to £1,200

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Wow, that's amazing. My mum won't believe me.

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It's stunning.

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Of its type, it's the best you'll see and the condition's excellent,

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-Well done.

-Oh, thank you.

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Beautiful little bowl. Where did it come from?

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Pretty sure it came from China because the family were in Canton

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-in the 1850s and '60s.

-Right, OK.

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There are not many Chinese dragons with three claws like this.

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Most Chinese dragons have five or four claws, so a three-clawed

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dragon actually tells us straight away it's Japanese.

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Um, it's a particularly lovely little bowl, it's very, very,

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very well painted.

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At first sight it doesn't appear to be very special,

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but if you actually think about what's gone into painting this.

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You've got this dragon chasing butterflies,

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and the butterflies are caught in this net,

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intricately painted,

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each one of the hexagons very, very daintily painted

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and you've got a little dot where the threads of the net intersect.

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The butterfly itself is done

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just as Japanese lacquer would be done.

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It's made of a material that we see a lot of on the Roadshow,

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but in this particular instance it's not what we normally see,

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because what we normally see is Japanese export ware, Satsuma.

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This is Satsuma that would almost certainly have been intended for a Japanese client,

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because it is essentially a little tea bowl.

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Now, decoration. Very sparse colours, gold, white etc.

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and the dragon itself, this... well, what colour is that?

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-What colour would you call that?

-I suppose lead more than...

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-It's a lead colour.

-Yes.

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Incredibly finely worked scales. These are actually silver,

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silver oxide, and when it was new,

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I'm pretty sure that would have been gleaming silver.

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And, as silver does, it's tarnished over the years.

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Now the question is, are you a brave man?

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I don't know. We're going to find out I think.

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Well, only if you permit me. I should say that

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whenever you clean silver, be it on a piece of pot or silver itself,

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you are technically removing one layer of molecules.

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But that is actually quite a thin measure.

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Now I do happen to carry about me a silver cloth for eventualities.

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-We can just give it a try, see what happens.

-Right.

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Ooh!

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How about that?

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I'm not going to rub too hard

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because I think we can get the general idea.

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So a really lovely little Japanese tea bowl,

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made at the end of the 19th century

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and painted with this glorious dragon,

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and it looks great, doesn't it, when it's been polished up?

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Yes. It's brilliant, yes. Really see the scales on it.

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It's quite fantastic.

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Value, probably somewhere in the region of, let me say, £300 to £500.

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For a little bowl, that's great.

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So, it's obviously a factory floor. Do you know where?

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I believe it's local. It's in Hull.

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-A factory in Hull.

-A factory in Hull,

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and it's on the back that it's Fenners and Co.

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-Fenners and Co.

-Yeah, Fenners and Co.

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and I think they used to manufacture some kind of conveyor belts.

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Oh, I see. Conveyor belts for industry or mining or something.

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Yeah, I think so, for industry I think, yes.

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-It's a very busy factory floor, isn't it?

-It is, yes.

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So what drew you to the picture?

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I love the movement in it, and the colours,

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and just something when I saw it, I thought,

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"I'd really like to own this."

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It's by James Neal and it's dated 1967.

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-And, you know, it's unusual to see pictures of factories.

-It is.

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They're usually done as commissions

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and I suppose this might have been as well.

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Perhaps the factory owner, or the manager,

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wanted to have some record of a busy factory floor in its heyday.

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And I like it too, because I think the colours in it are very, very...

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they chime very, very well

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and I like the way it's all laid out in a completely legible way,

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with this very open roof, lots and lots of light in this building, isn't there?

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You can almost hear the clang and clamour of the manufacturing process.

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-Exactly, yes.

-It's really quite fun.

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It doesn't look finished to me. Do you? I thought it was...

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Oh, well, does it matter? I mean it's sort of finished as it needs to be.

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-Right.

-Isn't it, in a way?

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-Now, he's a Hull artist, isn't he?

-That's right, yes, local artist.

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Yes, I was wondering if he might have known that great Hull poet, Philip Larkin,

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who of course is a great hero to me

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and he wrote a wonderful poem called Going Going,

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about the vanishing English countryside

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and the increasing industrialisation

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and the tarmac and the concrete everywhere.

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And I also thought this might be about the vanishing world,

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you know, and then about, well,

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you could find beauty in anything, couldn't you?

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You could find beauty in the factory floor, as here,

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and it's about mass observation, these people all working.

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So it's Britain at work and at play. Value...

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I paid £100

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and I thought that was a bargain for me,

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and I loved it and I'm hoping it's going to be a little bit more,

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but if not, it doesn't matter.

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-I'm going to put £800 to £1,200 on it.

-Wow.

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That is a surprise. Great!

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-I really think that that's what it would do.

-That's lovely.

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-Lot of fun.

-Thank you very much.

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Well, usually when I see antique cradles,

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they're either filled with logs, next to a fire,

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or with dried flower arrangements in them. How has yours been used?

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Well, all three of us have actually been in it, as babies,

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because our parents bought it.

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I'm the eldest, and they bought it before I was born,

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and then, one after the other, we've been in it as babies,

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so it's been properly used.

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That's absolutely extraordinary.

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So you've actually slept in this. Whether it'd comply with Health and Safety regulations now...

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What year did your parents actually buy this?

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We think in late 1941 or early 1942,

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because they certainly had it by the time I was born in July 1942.

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How absolutely brilliant. Did they just like old items, or...

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Well, they were farmers, had little money, but they liked old things.

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So we know, then, it dates back to at least 1940.

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But the question is, how much further does it go beyond that?

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Well, yes. We think considerably further, but we don't know.

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I would agree with you, I think it's about 100 years earlier.

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I think it dates from around 1840.

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It's got this wonderful painted decoration around it.

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Have you worked out what the scenes relate to?

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Well, we think it's the Prodigal Son.

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I would agree with you, definitely.

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There's the scene here of one of the sons departing,

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here is the son feeding the swine,

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so that's certainly the tale it tells.

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I think it's from a different area, historically known as Transylvania.

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-Oh!

-And so more of that, sort of, Central Eastern Europe,

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perhaps what we now know as Slovakia, Hungary, Romania,

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-possibly even going closer to Russia.

-Oh.

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But there has been so little research done

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-into furniture from that region.

-Yes.

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It's very difficult to pinpoint where.

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And cradles, on the whole,

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don't have a particularly high value, unfortunately.

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They tend to not be used. I mean, your parents bucked the trend.

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-So, three sisters, you're in age order, are you?

-Yes.

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Oldest, middle, youngest.

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Do you remember seeing either of your younger sisters sleeping in it?

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Well, Laura came along a number of years after us two,

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so we definitely remember Laura in it,

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because she's 15 years younger than me,

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so she was in that, and, I mean, both of us remember her in it,

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and the occasional cry that woke us up in the night.

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Well, as far as value goes, it's worth in the region of £400.

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That's really not the point of this object, is it?

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No, no, I don't think the value is of any concern.

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Obviously, children have been sleeping in this for 100 years

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before your parents bought it.

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I'm just very pleased to meet the last three people who slept in it.

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Well, I'm standing here with...

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..Mr York, I think he is, isn't he?

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And what a fantastic figure he is. Where does he fit in?

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Well, he advertised Rowntree's chocolates, Plain York, York Milk

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and York Motoring. And Rowntree's is, of course, very big in York,

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this is where we were founded, and he was our advertising mascot.

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Amazing. So York really has this relationship with chocolate.

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It is extraordinary. And one has to say

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that there was Rowntree's here, there's Terry's here

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and there are other companies... There's Cadbury's and Fry's

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but they were all Quakers, weren't they?

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Oh, yes. And because they were all Quakers,

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George Cadbury and Lewis Fry were both sent to York

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to Joseph Rowntree's father's house

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to be apprentices in his grocer's shop.

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So Rowntree's, Fry and Cadbury were all working together as teenagers

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and growing up together.

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That's extraordinary, I didn't know that.

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So we've definitely got the roots here of chocolate city.

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Fantastic. So Mr York was a sort of advertising figure, I presume.

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And what does he do?

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Well, he appeared in poster adverts and cinema adverts,

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but this particular model, built in 1928,

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he used to have a tray of leaflets on his arm

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and he would move his arm to pick up a leaflet and hand it out

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to whoever was passing.

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And where does he reside at the moment?

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He lives in the company archive, with me.

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So he's your co-worker, is he?

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This is my only co-worker!

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Can we get him going?

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Yes, of course.

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And let's see how great, or otherwise, he is.

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Now what's he doing? Whoa! Up go those eyebrows.

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And I love this, this sort of Dicky Bird, "It's a four."

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What we really need is a lip reader.

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I'm sure he's actually saying something quite interesting.

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He's saying,

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"Buy Plain York Motoring."

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Wonderful. He's in great, great working order and you can imagine,

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at a trade fair, he would actually stop the traffic.

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He comes from a tradition of automata.

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If one looks back in France in the 19th century,

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these automated figures were produced for home entertainment,

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and then somebody cottoned onto the idea, "Ah, well, maybe

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"if we make them with a big spring, we can have them in shop windows."

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But I can imagine that having something like

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Mr York at a trade fair... It would stop the traffic,

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it would push the product, and I think he still does it.

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I think he's wonderful. When it comes to value,

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I could easily see him fetching

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between £3,000 and £5,000. I mean, he's a great object

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and I hope he continues to keep you company in your office for many years to come.

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He will.

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Here's a very interesting looking pendant.

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It's decorated with blue enamel and pearls and diamonds

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and the very least of the message here

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is that it's one of very strong affection, one of love.

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These are pearls for Venus, diamonds forever,

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blue ribbons for love. But what's all this love about?

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It belonged to my mother. And she passed it on to my wife.

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It has a history behind it because there are four names -

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well, an inscription on the back,

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and I've often wondered what it was

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and I spent a bit of time last night reading about it.

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Last night! That's not much of a run-up!

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We've had it for years.

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-You've had it for years and you got a bit exited last night.

-Yes.

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It is something personal because if you look carefully

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there is an inscription.

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What does it say?

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"To Mary from Alice, Helena, Louise and Beatrice."

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That's the four daughters of Queen Victoria.

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It certainly is their names.

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Princess Victoria is not on it, because there's a date of

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1861 where, by that time, she was married

0:19:220:19:25

and I think living in Hanover.

0:19:250:19:27

-Exactly, being Empress of Prussia.

-Yes.

0:19:270:19:29

It's a fantastic thing, and I think with that combination of names,

0:19:290:19:33

the balance of probability is you're exactly on the right track here.

0:19:330:19:36

That this is a very personal souvenir,

0:19:360:19:39

a very personal British royal souvenir,

0:19:390:19:42

and not only does it have the inscription, but it has the hair

0:19:420:19:45

-of the four princesses, doesn't it?

-We assume it's the hair of the four.

0:19:450:19:48

I don't think there's a shadow of doubt

0:19:480:19:50

about the combination of the names, the presence of the hair,

0:19:500:19:53

the character of the jewel, which is absolutely in keeping for a jewel

0:19:530:19:57

from 1861, and this mania of the British Royal Family

0:19:570:20:00

for engraving the provenances of these small

0:20:000:20:04

intensely personal souvenirs.

0:20:040:20:06

Really, there's no intrinsic value here at all,

0:20:060:20:08

it's all emotional value, and the message there

0:20:080:20:12

-is one of love - it's a family love really.

-And it says "To Mary".

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And who do you think Mary is?

0:20:160:20:17

It's not Queen Mary as she wasn't alive in 1861.

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That's a good reason for it not to be her.

0:20:190:20:22

-It's Queen Mary's mother, I think, Mary of Teck.

-Absolutely.

0:20:220:20:26

The Princess Mary that you're talking about -

0:20:260:20:28

and it may well be her, I'm not absolutely certain that it is -

0:20:280:20:31

-is a granddaughter of King George III, I think.

-Yes.

0:20:310:20:34

Which really is - as they say - pushing it a bit.

0:20:340:20:36

This is a very, very Royal lady indeed.

0:20:360:20:38

but what I can tell you about this jewel

0:20:380:20:41

-is that it's given in April 1861, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:20:410:20:44

Six months later, the character of this jewel would have changed

0:20:440:20:47

in colour, and importance, and focus,

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and everything else that you can possibly imagine.

0:20:500:20:53

And the reason is that Prince Albert, their father, died

0:20:530:20:56

just before Christmas in 1861.

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And this is all joy, and all love and all family connections

0:20:590:21:02

and an intensely personal souvenir of family affection, which was

0:21:020:21:06

to be utterly and completely wrecked just before Christmas in 1861.

0:21:060:21:09

-Yes.

-Prince Albert died,

0:21:090:21:11

Queen Victoria wrote to King Leopold of Belgium the day after his death.

0:21:110:21:15

She said, "My life as a happy one is ended. The world has gone from me."

0:21:150:21:20

I believe most definitely that these are the four royal princesses.

0:21:200:21:23

They're giving it to a Mary, and we yet have to find out who that is.

0:21:230:21:27

With a bit of work, I think we will.

0:21:270:21:30

An extraordinarily intimate present from

0:21:300:21:33

the four princesses of the United Kingdom of Great Britain

0:21:330:21:36

and Ireland. So how to value it?

0:21:360:21:38

I think this thing is certainly worth -

0:21:380:21:40

I'm going to say £3,000 to £5,000. Closer to five.

0:21:400:21:44

Well, it doesn't matter.

0:21:440:21:46

It doesn't matter to me - at all! I've loved it.

0:21:460:21:50

With temperatures going way over 80

0:21:520:21:54

-today, the thought of going swimming is mega-appealing.

-Absolutely.

0:21:540:21:59

And you've very kindly brought us along a collection of swimsuits.

0:21:590:22:03

I have. It's part of my collection. I collect costume and textiles

0:22:030:22:07

and this is just a very tiny part of my costume collection.

0:22:070:22:11

But we rarely ever see bathing costumes. Why is that?

0:22:110:22:15

I think they're more and more difficult to come by.

0:22:150:22:17

I mean, certainly to find something these days is very difficult.

0:22:170:22:21

I've collected this over the last maybe 20 years,

0:22:210:22:25

and it's just part of my passion really for social history

0:22:250:22:31

and why changes happen in fashion.

0:22:310:22:34

Now, one always thinks it's the Victorians who started the fashion

0:22:340:22:38

in bathing and the famous resorts - so when did it all start?

0:22:380:22:43

I think it probably goes back earlier than that,

0:22:430:22:45

certainly to the spa towns of Regency times.

0:22:450:22:49

If you think of Scarborough and Brighton, for example,

0:22:490:22:53

the Prince Regent brought the seaside into fashion,

0:22:530:22:57

so promenade dresses became very prominent,

0:22:570:23:00

and then spa therapies which took on board the benefits of water,

0:23:000:23:07

then that really came to bring spa resorts such as Scarborough

0:23:070:23:12

to the front of fashion. So certainly by the mid 19th century,

0:23:120:23:17

-it was becoming popular.

-So, what's the earliest example you have here?

0:23:170:23:21

The earliest pieces I would say are the red one over here

0:23:210:23:25

and this maroon one, which are late Victorian/Edwardian,

0:23:250:23:31

so maybe 1890-1900. And they're quite interesting because they're made of

0:23:310:23:37

very thick cotton, which, to wear a dress like this today

0:23:370:23:43

would be quite difficult - but also there would be bloomers underneath.

0:23:430:23:47

-Fantastic.

-And the ladies would also wear stockings and boots - we have

0:23:470:23:53

-some examples here - to go into the sea.

-And then

0:23:530:23:57

obviously in the Edwardian times it wasn't quite so conservative,

0:23:570:24:00

-they revealed a little bit more?

-That's right. The one down here,

0:24:000:24:03

the striped blue one, I think that's a gentleman's costume.

0:24:030:24:07

Oh, this is what I would have worn.

0:24:070:24:08

Because frequently the gentlemen's costumes would have skirts on them.

0:24:080:24:15

-OK.

-Just to protect modesty because

0:24:150:24:18

they're very revealing, being knitted,

0:24:180:24:21

so even the gentlemen would need to wear a skirt.

0:24:210:24:24

What sort of prices do you have to pay for the more important pieces?

0:24:240:24:28

It's difficult to know, because it's such a long time that I bought them,

0:24:280:24:31

but maybe £100 I probably paid for something like this.

0:24:310:24:36

Maybe these were - I don't know - £20, £50.

0:24:360:24:41

I think they're glorious and I think they're fabulous

0:24:410:24:44

for a spa town to have an exhibition of this. I'm sure from

0:24:440:24:47

a museum point of view, they belong in your collection obviously,

0:24:470:24:50

but it would be great to see more of these sort of things in museums,

0:24:500:24:53

-as they are a social history.

-They are, yes.

0:24:530:24:56

It's a very popular pastime. Hundreds of thousands of people

0:24:560:24:59

used to go to the seaside to take the waters. This is what they wore.

0:24:590:25:03

MUSIC: "I Do Like To Be Beside the Seaside"

0:25:030:25:05

THEY LAUGH

0:25:180:25:20

This is a really pretty glass, so where does it fall into your life?

0:25:250:25:29

Given to us about 30 years ago by an elderly lady,

0:25:290:25:34

friend of the family, long since deceased.

0:25:340:25:36

So, why have you brought it along today?

0:25:370:25:40

Well, I wasn't sure whether it was what I would call a reproduction,

0:25:400:25:44

being made fairly recently, or whether it was an original.

0:25:440:25:49

And how old do you think it would be, if it were original?

0:25:490:25:52

Oh, I would think about 1790 or thereabouts.

0:25:520:25:55

I think it's just a little bit earlier than that,

0:25:550:25:57

and it's absolutely right.

0:25:570:26:00

It's a facet stem wine glass,

0:26:000:26:03

and isn't it funny that if you were to come round to mine

0:26:030:26:06

for dinner tonight, and I were to offer you wine in this glass,

0:26:060:26:09

you'd think I was a miser, you'd think, "What a stingy portion."

0:26:090:26:13

But, of course, the reason that wine glasses of this period

0:26:130:26:17

-are so small is they were for toasting.

-Yes.

0:26:170:26:20

So, you would have it refilled at the sideboard,

0:26:200:26:24

it would be brought to the table by one of your servants -

0:26:240:26:27

one of your many servants, I'm sure, in your case -

0:26:270:26:29

and then you would make the toast and then it would be...

0:26:290:26:34

-Bottom's up.

-All in one.

0:26:340:26:36

All in one. It contains a mouthful.

0:26:360:26:39

And that's a way we can date these,

0:26:390:26:42

in that that toasting etiquette

0:26:420:26:45

really died out by about 1780,

0:26:450:26:48

so you're on the right sort of lines, but just a little late.

0:26:480:26:51

I think this is about 1770-1775,

0:26:510:26:55

and it would be a wheel-engraved cipher.

0:26:550:26:58

Now, what we're missing from this cipher

0:26:580:27:01

which would really be helpful is the crown -

0:27:010:27:03

to work out whether it's a baronet's crown, or a ducal

0:27:030:27:08

or a knight.

0:27:080:27:09

So... And these are very difficult to work out.

0:27:090:27:13

If you could lock this in to a particular owner,

0:27:130:27:16

you're going to add -

0:27:160:27:18

its value as it stands is

0:27:180:27:22

-£400.

-It's one of a pair.

0:27:220:27:25

They would be worth £800. I think my maths is right.

0:27:250:27:29

-Yeah!

-But if you could add a name, if you work out

0:27:290:27:35

who that belonged to, then you've just broken the thousand barrier.

0:27:350:27:39

-Uh-huh.

-So I'll leave you with that little job.

-Yeah, thank you.

0:27:390:27:45

It's the most glorious summer's day here in York,

0:27:470:27:51

and of course the sun is out, the sky's beautifully blue

0:27:510:27:55

and we've got lots of lovely white clouds, and you've brought in

0:27:550:27:58

an absolute gem, a lovely cloud study which is signed.

0:27:580:28:01

If it wasn't signed, one might think that perhaps

0:28:010:28:03

it was by Constable or perhaps one of his followers.

0:28:030:28:06

But of course it's not -

0:28:060:28:08

-it's by the great 20th century artist, Edward Seago.

-That's right.

0:28:080:28:12

-So, where did you find it?

-It was on a dealer's website

0:28:120:28:15

about five years ago and I really couldn't afford it

0:28:150:28:18

and I went horrendously overdrawn for it, but I just couldn't resist it.

0:28:180:28:22

I kept looking at it on the website every week

0:28:220:28:24

and in the end I thought, "Go for it". Because I like Constable,

0:28:240:28:27

which you alluded to, and I thought,

0:28:270:28:29

"It might be the next best thing, and I can afford it - just."

0:28:290:28:32

It's a little jewel, this picture by Seago, and of course I think

0:28:320:28:36

probably it was done - well, it was probably just a picture

0:28:360:28:39

that he enjoyed to paint, probably one of those great little studies

0:28:390:28:44

that he would do as a painter enjoying paint rather than

0:28:440:28:48

having to do it as a commission. You can tell that he's actually

0:28:480:28:51

technically very, very good and it gets away from all those wonderful

0:28:510:28:55

but rather prolific Norfolk landscapes that he painted

0:28:550:28:58

and that we all recognise him through. I just love this

0:28:580:29:01

and actually if I'd seen it and had to go overdrawn

0:29:010:29:04

I would have probably done the same thing as you.

0:29:040:29:06

-Have you dated this picture?

-No, no.

0:29:060:29:09

I knew he died in 1974, the year I was born,

0:29:090:29:12

but I didn't know when it had been painted.

0:29:120:29:15

I think it's probably quite early because I think

0:29:150:29:18

prior to him doing these great commissions

0:29:180:29:20

and those wonderful landscapes,

0:29:200:29:22

we know that he had quite a weak heart

0:29:220:29:24

so he was there, certainly in his teens,

0:29:240:29:27

painting studies and sketches from his bedroom.

0:29:270:29:29

I suspect this was probably done in his 20s or 30s,

0:29:290:29:32

so we're looking at 1930-1940.

0:29:320:29:35

But it's unusual, it's a total one-off little painting.

0:29:350:29:39

So it is worth not as much as some of those great landscapes

0:29:390:29:45

-that make thousands and thousands of pounds.

-No.

0:29:450:29:48

But I certainly could see someone paying at least £3,000 to £5,000

0:29:480:29:51

for it, perhaps even £4,000 to £6,000 for it.

0:29:510:29:54

That's great, that's great. That's a little bit more than I paid

0:29:540:29:57

and I really love it and I'm happy with that.

0:29:570:29:59

-Fantastic.

-Thank you.

0:29:590:30:02

Now, this is a very curious looking object, isn't it?

0:30:060:30:10

It looks a bit like a pocket watch, doesn't it?

0:30:100:30:12

The fact is, it looks a bit like a pocket watch

0:30:120:30:15

-but that's a disguise. Do you know what it's a disguise for?

-No.

0:30:150:30:18

It's a disguise for a camera.

0:30:180:30:22

Now, what makes you think that a camera might be

0:30:220:30:26

disguised as a pocket watch? Why would they want to do that?

0:30:260:30:29

Because, like, if you thought it was a pocket watch,

0:30:290:30:32

you could have it in your pocket,

0:30:320:30:34

but if you took it out and it was like... took a picture -

0:30:340:30:38

they might not think it was a camera.

0:30:380:30:41

Perfect. You've hit the nail right on the head.

0:30:410:30:44

Because what this is is a kind of detective camera.

0:30:440:30:48

It's a class of camera that's called a subminiature detective camera,

0:30:480:30:53

and it was made very specifically for taking photographs secretly.

0:30:530:30:58

So you can imagine some spy might have used this camera.

0:30:580:31:01

In fact, I'm probably going a little bit too far,

0:31:010:31:05

because really I think these cameras were really a bit of fun as well.

0:31:050:31:09

This particular camera is called a Ticka camera.

0:31:090:31:13

You've probably noticed that it has an inscription on the back

0:31:130:31:16

which says "Ticka", and it's called a Ticka because obviously it looks

0:31:160:31:21

a little bit like a watch, a pocket watch, and hence the name Ticka.

0:31:210:31:25

And this one was made by a company called Houghtons in London.

0:31:250:31:32

Now, Houghtons made this Ticka pocket watch camera

0:31:320:31:35

between 1905 and 1914.

0:31:350:31:38

The person that designed this was a gentleman called Magnus Neill,

0:31:380:31:41

and he was a Swedish gentleman.

0:31:410:31:43

If we look at it, we see here there's a cap on the end

0:31:430:31:47

which looks like the winder for the watch.

0:31:470:31:50

If we take that off, in fact,

0:31:500:31:52

what it reveals is the lens for the camera.

0:31:520:31:56

In fact, if we cock the camera - to get it ready to work - we pull

0:31:560:31:59

this lever back here, and to fire the camera, we point it

0:31:590:32:04

and we push this button and that's the exposure,

0:32:040:32:07

the picture is being taken.

0:32:070:32:09

Now, I want to know if there's any family history.

0:32:090:32:13

-Do you have any spies in your family?

-No.

0:32:130:32:16

No spies in your family. OK.

0:32:160:32:20

My nan found this in the drawer

0:32:200:32:23

and she thought it might have been good for an antique.

0:32:230:32:25

Right. Shall we talk about value?

0:32:250:32:28

What do you think, are you interested in how much it's worth?

0:32:280:32:31

Yeah.

0:32:310:32:32

Thought you might be.

0:32:320:32:33

This one is probably going to be worth

0:32:330:32:36

around about £200 in this condition.

0:32:360:32:38

Yeah.

0:32:380:32:40

Quite a lot of money, isn't it? How much pocket money do you get a week?

0:32:400:32:43

-£2.50.

-£2.50.

0:32:430:32:45

-That's quite a lot of pocket money, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:32:450:32:47

-It's going to take a lot of £2.50s to get to £200.

-Yes.

0:32:470:32:50

I think you should ask your nan if you can look after this.

0:32:500:32:53

-What do you think?

-Yeah.

0:32:530:32:55

Thank you very much for bringing it, it's a really interesting thing.

0:32:550:33:00

Now, when I was a boy - oh, longer ago than I care to remember -

0:33:000:33:05

I used to collect hand grenades, of all things.

0:33:050:33:09

Quite a weird thing to collect, but that got me into militaria

0:33:090:33:13

-and that's why I'm doing the job I'm doing today.

-Right.

-Right.

0:33:130:33:16

But very interested in Mills bombs in particular,

0:33:160:33:19

the standard sort of pineapple-looking grenade.

0:33:190:33:21

-Oh, yeah, yeah.

-Yes.

0:33:210:33:22

And I see here it says "details of production - Mills grenades,

0:33:220:33:26

-"2.2 million Mills bombs made."

-Yeah.

0:33:260:33:32

Now, what is this?

0:33:320:33:33

My great-grandfather...?

0:33:330:33:35

Great-grandfather, yeah.

0:33:350:33:37

Yeah, great-grandfather.

0:33:370:33:38

..was the general manager of the Falkirk Iron Company

0:33:380:33:41

and they went into grenade making and things in the...

0:33:410:33:45

-Shells as well.

-Shells and things.

-And bombs.

0:33:450:33:48

..in the First World War.

0:33:480:33:50

So before the First World War, there were a huge number of factories -

0:33:500:33:55

some large, some small - all over the country,

0:33:550:33:59

manufacturing all sorts of things from tin baths to kettles.

0:33:590:34:02

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:34:020:34:04

An extraordinary range of metal objects

0:34:040:34:07

and during the First World War,

0:34:070:34:09

because arms were desperately needed,

0:34:090:34:12

a huge number of factories were changed over to armament production,

0:34:120:34:16

and presumably that's what happened to the Falkirk Iron Company.

0:34:160:34:20

Yeah, they were producing baths, I think.

0:34:200:34:23

Baths and ovens and things, stoves, things like that before.

0:34:230:34:26

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:34:260:34:27

Well, here we see, if we turn over some of the pages,

0:34:270:34:30

we've got photographs of the manufacturing processes.

0:34:300:34:34

Now, here they're manufacturing... What does this say?

0:34:340:34:37

Two-inch Howitzer bombs,

0:34:370:34:38

and you've got these men working in a factory in the production process.

0:34:380:34:42

Yeah.

0:34:420:34:43

So this must have been fairly early on in the war.

0:34:430:34:46

I would have said so, yeah.

0:34:460:34:48

Because later on, of course, the men were all called up to fight.

0:34:480:34:51

-Yes.

-And women started to go into the manufacturing process

0:34:510:34:54

and into the factories.

0:34:540:34:56

Here are two women with Mills bombs, with hand grenades,

0:34:560:35:00

-actually making the hand grenades.

-Yeah.

0:35:000:35:03

I mean, this is amazing because, you know,

0:35:030:35:05

these are very, very unusual photographs, they really are.

0:35:050:35:09

And I just can't believe...

0:35:090:35:11

Look at the boxes, look at these crates of empty hand grenades,

0:35:110:35:14

that's the most extraordinary thing.

0:35:140:35:16

-I bet you didn't have that many in your collection!

-I certainly didn't, that's quite true.

0:35:160:35:21

I don't have them any more, I sold them.

0:35:210:35:23

Now this photograph is titled "assembling"

0:35:230:35:26

and you see the whole factory floor is full of women,

0:35:260:35:29

-and of course you wouldn't have got that before the First World War.

-No.

0:35:290:35:33

So it's a great testament to the power of women

0:35:330:35:35

working in munitions factories.

0:35:350:35:37

If they were filling these grenades, this would have been pretty dangerous work.

0:35:370:35:42

-I should imagine.

-Yeah, mm.

-Very dangerous work.

0:35:420:35:45

But, you know, another thing is you have to think of the human cost

0:35:450:35:48

of manufacturing these grenades, because many of these munitions

0:35:480:35:53

would have been used in France and Belgium and Germany

0:35:530:35:58

and would have killed countless soldiers,

0:35:580:36:01

so we have to think about the human cost of it.

0:36:010:36:03

But, of course, if these weren't manufactured, many of us wouldn't be here today.

0:36:030:36:07

-That's also true, yeah.

-You've got a social document here...

0:36:070:36:11

-Yeah.

-..to show what happened during the First World War.

0:36:110:36:14

A collector would pay you...

0:36:140:36:17

-£300 to £500.

-Right. Blimey.

-Right, thank you.

0:36:170:36:21

You looked slightly surprised when I opened this

0:36:230:36:27

-and I wanted to talk about it.

-Yes.

0:36:270:36:29

Why were you surprised?

0:36:290:36:31

Well, cos when I was given it, I always thought

0:36:310:36:34

it's not the most beautiful piece of jewellery, but it is quite unusual.

0:36:340:36:39

So therefore you don't wear it, I assume.

0:36:390:36:41

No, no, I've never had occasion to wear it.

0:36:410:36:44

-Never had an occasion?

-No.

0:36:440:36:46

There's always an occasion to wear jewellery.

0:36:460:36:48

-Well, my mission is for you to start wearing it.

-Right.

0:36:480:36:53

After I've explained a little bit about it.

0:36:530:36:56

What is lovely about this is the craftsmanship.

0:36:560:36:59

Now that is the first thing that springs out at me,

0:36:590:37:04

and it is in the shape of a Maltese cross, or a Latin cross,

0:37:040:37:07

they used to use those motifs a lot

0:37:070:37:09

in the late Georgian, early Victorian period.

0:37:090:37:13

-It's quite a bold cross, isn't it?

-Yes.

-And it's quite a large cross.

0:37:130:37:17

But at the same time, there's that femininity about it,

0:37:170:37:22

and so I think they've done this very cleverly,

0:37:220:37:24

in that they have used chalcedony

0:37:240:37:26

to carve the actual cross,

0:37:260:37:30

and yet, inside, there is this wonderful goldsmithing

0:37:300:37:34

and craftsmanship going on.

0:37:340:37:36

There seems to be different colours of gold -

0:37:360:37:38

there's like a silver and a rose and a yellow gold as well -

0:37:380:37:41

so there's all different colours.

0:37:410:37:42

Exactly, now that is because the goldsmiths at the time,

0:37:420:37:46

they weren't happy with just yellow gold,

0:37:460:37:48

they wanted to have other colours in the gold as well,

0:37:480:37:52

-so they would put copper in with the gold to make it red.

-Right, yes.

0:37:520:37:55

They put silver in with the gold to make it of a green tint,

0:37:550:37:58

but that's why you've got what looks like green gold,

0:37:580:38:02

red gold and you've got silver here as well.

0:38:020:38:05

But also they've got this emerald. Now...

0:38:050:38:09

-Is that what it is?

-Yes, it's an emerald.

0:38:090:38:11

Oh, right, I didn't know that.

0:38:110:38:13

And emerald was used for... Green is for hope.

0:38:130:38:17

-There was a lot of symbolism during the Victorian period.

-Yeah.

0:38:170:38:20

You have the pearls there for purity and honesty,

0:38:200:38:24

so you've got the love of Christ,

0:38:240:38:27

hope of the love of Christ and its purity.

0:38:270:38:30

That emerald...

0:38:300:38:32

Even though this looks like it was probably made in England,

0:38:320:38:35

But that emerald probably would have come from South America.

0:38:350:38:38

Oh, right.

0:38:380:38:40

-I mean we're talking, you know, 1840.

-Really?

0:38:400:38:43

We're talking a long time ago. Have I convinced you yet?

0:38:430:38:46

Well, I'm thinking about it, yeah.

0:38:460:38:48

Are you thinking about it? Excellent.

0:38:480:38:50

I must admit, the more I look at it, over the time,

0:38:500:38:53

because it gets put away and gets pulled out.

0:38:530:38:55

The first time I saw it was like, "Oh, God," but now it's actually...

0:38:550:38:58

Yeah, you have to look at it and you have to look at the detail.

0:38:580:39:01

-The appreciation of it.

-Yeah.

0:39:010:39:03

When you appreciate it, and you see the craftsmanship,

0:39:030:39:05

-you'll want to wear it.

-Yeah.

-Value.

0:39:050:39:08

Well, I would say it's going to be in the region

0:39:080:39:11

of around £600 to £800 at auction.

0:39:110:39:13

Really?

0:39:130:39:14

I think it'll look fabulous on you.

0:39:140:39:16

-Brilliant, thank you.

-So go and wear it.

-I think I will.

0:39:160:39:19

Now this little bell tells two great stories.

0:39:210:39:24

The first one, it's crested to Lancing.

0:39:240:39:27

-This was when people started to go on holidays.

-Right.

0:39:270:39:29

Just after all the railways, so people went to the seaside

0:39:290:39:32

-and they picked up a little souvenir like this bell.

-OK.

0:39:320:39:36

-But this is a bit unusual.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:39:360:39:38

Because it's also about the suffragettes. Yeah.

0:39:380:39:41

What did you think about it? Why did you want it?

0:39:410:39:44

Well, it's actually my mum and dad's bell, but I've always loved it.

0:39:440:39:47

-This is an incredibly important thing for you and I.

-Yes, yes.

0:39:470:39:50

You know, women didn't have the vote,

0:39:500:39:52

the Women's National Society For Suffrage started in 1872.

0:39:520:39:57

By the time this little bell was made...

0:39:570:39:59

-I mean, women over 30 got the vote in 1918.

-OK.

0:39:590:40:03

But only if they were a householder,

0:40:030:40:05

married to a householder or had a university degree.

0:40:050:40:08

Right. OK, right.

0:40:080:40:10

-So we didn't get the vote, really, until 1928.

-No.

0:40:100:40:13

But this was the period where everybody wanted to,

0:40:130:40:15

-you know, support the suffragettes. Certainly women did.

-Yes, exactly.

0:40:150:40:19

-So this was bought. It's a very unusual little bell.

-Yes.

0:40:190:40:23

-I've seen a lot of crested ware but this is unusual.

-Right.

0:40:230:40:26

-But the bad news is that nobody wants crested ware at the moment.

-That's fine.

0:40:260:40:30

Completely out of fashion.

0:40:300:40:32

Most bits of crested ware I look at, I'm saying two, three pounds.

0:40:320:40:36

-Yeah.

-This piece?

-Right.

0:40:360:40:38

-It's about suffragettes.

-Yes, yeah.

0:40:380:40:40

It's a lovely bell, it's made by Arcadian Company

0:40:400:40:43

and I'd say you'd easily get at least £100.

0:40:430:40:46

Oh, wow! Oh, fantastic. I wasn't expecting that from that, no.

0:40:460:40:52

But that's... For you and I, this was a very important thing.

0:40:520:40:55

Yes, exactly, yes and we just love that bell anyway, so... Thank you!

0:40:550:41:00

-Motor cycles and mice, a very strange mix.

-Yes.

0:41:020:41:05

Who is Harold King?

0:41:050:41:07

Harold King was my great uncle.

0:41:070:41:09

There's a picture of him,

0:41:090:41:11

and he was the president of the Eboracum Motor Cycle Club.

0:41:110:41:14

OK, and there is the enamel badge of Eboracum Motor Club.

0:41:140:41:20

Eboracum being the old Roman name for York.

0:41:200:41:23

Do we know when it was founded?

0:41:230:41:26

I'm not sure, no.

0:41:260:41:28

-No, because it's still going today.

-Yes, it is.

0:41:280:41:30

I think it was founded in the early 20th century,

0:41:300:41:33

some time around 1910-1915.

0:41:330:41:35

This is made locally by none other than Robert "Mousey" Thompson.

0:41:350:41:40

Robert Thompson, he was a Victorian by birth

0:41:400:41:43

and he made this in a traditional Arts and Crafts way,

0:41:430:41:47

following the sort of William Morris...

0:41:470:41:49

No fuss, it's air-dried oak, British oak,

0:41:490:41:53

made locally at Kilburn in the Hambleton Hills

0:41:530:41:56

-not, what, 10 or 15 miles from here?

-Mm-hm.

0:41:560:41:59

I'm familiar with him because I went to school in York

0:41:590:42:02

and our school had furniture by the Mouseman.

0:42:020:42:06

And of course as a little boy, my eyes were always drawn to the mouse

0:42:060:42:09

and I've learned since there's mice all over York - wooden ones.

0:42:090:42:12

But this is a really interesting family heirloom.

0:42:120:42:16

-Shall we have a look?

-Yes.

0:42:160:42:19

Now I know the collective word for a group of mice

0:42:190:42:22

is apparently a mischief.

0:42:220:42:24

-Oh, right.

-So we have a mischief of mice in the form of napkin rings.

0:42:240:42:27

Have you ever used them? They look absolutely...

0:42:270:42:30

-They've never been touched.

-No? Each one has a mouse.

0:42:300:42:33

Now I know that, today, a mouse costs something like £20 per mouse,

0:42:330:42:36

in man time, to carve,

0:42:360:42:39

so you've got a lot of mice hours built up in this little group.

0:42:390:42:44

Mm-hm.

0:42:440:42:46

It was awarded in 1962, he was then secretary.

0:42:460:42:50

Where's the mouse, then?

0:42:500:42:52

It's on the back, let's have a look, there he is.

0:42:520:42:56

And it's an incuse mouse rather than on the napkin rings being in relief,

0:42:560:43:00

so just in his own little arch, just the ears, the body in silhouette.

0:43:000:43:05

It's absolutely smashing.

0:43:050:43:07

Value? Well, the box is very personal to you and to him,

0:43:070:43:11

but the napkin rings are, you know, lovely.

0:43:110:43:15

I think as a group, £600 to £800

0:43:150:43:18

would be my sort of estimate at auction.

0:43:180:43:20

Gosh, right. It's more than we thought.

0:43:200:43:23

Well, you may know that on this series of the Roadshow,

0:43:280:43:31

we've been playing a bit of an interesting game,

0:43:310:43:34

where we're presenting people with three similar objects.

0:43:340:43:39

One that's basic, one that's better and one that's best,

0:43:390:43:44

and I wonder, you know, looking at this...

0:43:440:43:47

motley crew of objects you've brought along to the show today,

0:43:470:43:51

whether, you know, the viewers would find any one of these pieces

0:43:510:43:56

standing out from any of the others.

0:43:560:43:58

But could you tell me collectively where they come from,

0:43:580:44:02

-what their history is.

-From my mum's side of the family.

-Right.

0:44:020:44:05

-Grandparents. These two plates are off my dad's side of the family.

-OK.

0:44:050:44:09

The paperweight was my mum's cousin's grandma's.

0:44:090:44:13

-Right.

-My mum sort of got that when she was about ten, off her cousin.

0:44:130:44:17

But the other one's my grandparents',

0:44:170:44:19

they were always on their fireplace.

0:44:190:44:21

-Yes.

-Same with these, really.

0:44:210:44:23

-So they've all played an important part in family history, really.

-Yes.

0:44:230:44:27

I think you might suspect that there's one piece on this table

0:44:270:44:30

that's been making my little heart go all of a flutter.

0:44:300:44:34

These are nice decorative objects, these ones,

0:44:340:44:37

but probably if you add them all together,

0:44:370:44:39

they won't make more than a couple of hundred pounds. Modest value.

0:44:390:44:43

This is the kind of thing we see on the Roadshow all the time.

0:44:430:44:46

-And then there's this one.

-Right.

0:44:460:44:48

And it's a paperweight and it's made of glass

0:44:480:44:52

and you can see it's got...

0:44:520:44:55

..a little pansy there and a pansy bud,

0:44:560:45:00

-a rose and a rose bud and two thistles, just there.

-Yeah.

0:45:000:45:06

And they're tied together with a little pink ribbon

0:45:060:45:09

at the bottom of the stems.

0:45:090:45:11

When I first saw that, I could hardly believe my eyes.

0:45:130:45:17

-Really?

-Have you any idea where it's from?

0:45:190:45:22

-No.

-The best ones are made in France.

0:45:220:45:24

Right.

0:45:240:45:26

This is a French one.

0:45:260:45:28

And there were three famous makers.

0:45:280:45:31

There was St Louis...

0:45:310:45:32

..there was Baccarat and there was Clichy,

0:45:340:45:36

-and this is a Clichy one, but it's not marked, is it?

-No.

0:45:360:45:39

But this rose that I pointed to.

0:45:390:45:41

-Yeah.

-It's a Clichy rose and we know this is a weight made by Clichy.

0:45:410:45:47

You might ask, "Why these three flowers?"

0:45:470:45:50

And there are some paperweight collectors

0:45:500:45:54

who think there's a significance with the Crimean War.

0:45:540:45:56

Because in the Crimean War, England and Scotland were -

0:45:560:46:00

-for a change - allied with France, represented by the pansy.

-Yeah.

0:46:000:46:05

So there may be that kind of significance.

0:46:050:46:08

And we know the Crimean War was 1853-56,

0:46:080:46:12

so, really, I'm telling you this is mid-19th century.

0:46:120:46:15

There's a huge number of collectors of these paperweights.

0:46:150:46:18

-There are lots and lots of rich collectors in America.

-Right.

0:46:180:46:22

And they're selling really well

0:46:220:46:24

and, you know, they make in salerooms all the time

0:46:240:46:29

-£500...

-Gosh.

0:46:290:46:31

..or £1,000.

0:46:320:46:34

But this one is different.

0:46:350:46:37

Right. Thanks(!)

0:46:370:46:39

Sorry, I'm being cruel. This one is different.

0:46:390:46:43

There are a very, very small number of these weights around.

0:46:430:46:48

I sold one recently, so I know exactly what it's worth.

0:46:480:46:53

-Right.

-It sold...

0:46:530:46:56

for £22,000.

0:46:560:47:02

Never!

0:47:020:47:03

Oh, Mum!

0:47:050:47:07

-22,000?

-22,000.

0:47:070:47:10

I used to say to my wife, I used to say,

0:47:110:47:14

"That paperweight that's always on the dressing table, shall I move it?

0:47:140:47:18

"I'm sick of seeing it."

0:47:180:47:21

-Well, I think it's wonderful.

-Wow.

0:47:210:47:23

It must be one of the best paperweights we've seen on the Roadshow. It's fantastic.

0:47:230:47:27

Thank you.

0:47:270:47:28

THEY LAUGH

0:47:280:47:29

Gosh, go and tell Mum now.

0:47:290:47:31

-Good.

-Thank you very much.

0:47:320:47:34

Good. So what's your mother doing today?

0:47:340:47:36

She's at home making piccalilli, actually.

0:47:360:47:39

Making piccalilli, while you're here getting that kind of news.

0:47:390:47:42

Do you think you ought to give her a ring and let her know?

0:47:420:47:46

And do you know what?

0:47:460:47:47

She did just that, phoning her there and then.

0:47:470:47:50

Want to see what happened?

0:47:500:47:51

-Hello?

-'Hello, love. Have you just rung?'

0:47:520:47:55

I have, yeah. I've got some news for you about your paperweight, Mum.

0:47:550:47:59

'What?'

0:47:590:48:00

You're on loud speaker. It's worth £22,000.

0:48:000:48:04

'No, it isn't! Don't be so daft.'

0:48:040:48:07

You're on loud speaker, Mum, it is.

0:48:070:48:09

-'No, it isn't.'

-It is!

0:48:090:48:12

HER MUM LAUGHS

0:48:120:48:13

-Never!

-Yes, it is, Mum. Yeah.

0:48:130:48:16

'Good grief.

0:48:160:48:17

'I can't believe that sum, I've had that since I was a little girl.'

0:48:170:48:20

I know, I know. Well. I'll let you go

0:48:200:48:22

and I'll phone you again in a minute. Love you, bye.

0:48:220:48:25

Oh, how lovely.

0:48:250:48:27

THEY LAUGH

0:48:270:48:28

What a terrific way to end our day in York.

0:48:280:48:31

Best go and check your paperweights now. Or better still,

0:48:310:48:34

bring them along to a Roadshow.

0:48:340:48:35

From York and the whole team, bye-bye.

0:48:350:48:39

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