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We're always searching for treasure, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
so we've come to an apt location - the Yorkshire Museum and Gardens. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
You see, it's a place that already boasts pretty incredible discoveries | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
that have been literally unearthed from beneath the ground here. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
So let's hope we find a few more, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
as we return for a second visit to York. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
BELL DINGS | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
The great minds of the York Philosophical Society | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
were hard at work in the 1820s, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
planning a home for the new discoveries exciting scientific thinkers of the day. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
And this was the result - | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
the museum in the heart of York. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
It opened in 1830 and it was something of a pioneer. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Set in its own botanical gardens, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
it's one of the first purpose-built museums in the country. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Not that it made much difference to most of the people of York, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
because this place was an exclusive club. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
When the museum first opened, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
I wouldn't have been able to get through those doors quite so easily, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
because women were not allowed to be members of the York Philosophical Society. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
And when non-members were finally admitted to the museum, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
it was for a very steep shilling. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
The working classes were only admitted in 1838 - | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
and even then it was just once a year, at Whitsun. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Fortunately, times have changed. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Some of the rather grand founders of the museum might be shocked | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
to learn that many of the most talked about recent acquisitions | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
have not been found by archaeologists | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
but by...local people using these - | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
metal detectors. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
The Yorkshire Museum encourages anyone who's found an antiquity | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
to bring it here, to their Finds Officer, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
and they've had quite a few in recent years. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
Like this stash of Viking silver | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
known as the "Vale of York Hoard". | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Look at this - it's another amazing find here in the museum. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
It's called the "Middleham Jewel" | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
and it was discovered near the medieval castle of Middleham | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
by an amateur detecting enthusiast. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Whoever wore this, almost certainly a woman, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
had significant status and wealth because it's solid gold | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
with this huge sapphire here. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
But more importantly than that, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
it is a charm, if you like, designed to protect | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
from the dangers of childbirth. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
All this was designed to house the most precious thing of all - | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
some tiny fragments of soil from a shrine or some kind of holy site. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
So whatever 15th-century woman wore this round her neck... | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
was taking no chances. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
We'll see more excavated treasures later in the show. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
In the meantime, let's see what our experts are digging up. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
You know, everywhere you go in York, you fall over pieces of stone. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Here we are, in the Museum Gardens - | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
the place is absolutely covered in bits of antiquity | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
and you bring in these. Where did you get them from? | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
Various places. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
This one here from a dealer, it was languishing in a garden in Kent. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
-Yes. -I just saw it on the website and the photo didn't do it justice, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
and when I saw it, I had to have it. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
OK, I think we ought to go back and decide why you wanted | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
to collect these pieces of stone. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Because quite often they are neglected | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
-and they end up in people's gardens or used as doorstops. -Yes. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
Various people have told me they're not worth anything | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
and I don't care, because they're early works of art | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
and sooner or later, there's not going to be much left. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
I think you hit the nail on the head there | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
when you say they are early works of art. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-This is quite the most stunning one, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
I don't think it's medieval. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I think it's a bit later than that. 1500-1600, something like that. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
-Yeah, later. -What a piece! | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
And you can imagine him on the side of a building - | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
on the side of Hogwarts, perhaps! I don't know, something like that. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
The other one - over here - this little lion over here, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
if you look at the face on the lion, it's much more a Neo-Classical face. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
Yes, yeah. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
I think it's more secular | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
and I would have thought dated from the 18th century, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
or possibly even the 17th century. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
And then the two down here... tell me about this one here. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
This was in a salvage yard in Worcestershire | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
and the guy said it was Victorian, so I took a punt on it, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
because I thought it was older. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
-It had been re-used in a 19th-century wall. -Yes. -And turned around. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
That's why he thought it was Victorian? | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
I said, "Maybe that's why it's NOT Victorian". | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Well, I think you're absolutely right. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
I don't think it is Victorian | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
and obviously they did use, or re-use, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
sensible pieces of stone like this for their work. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
And again, it's just that spirit, and the ear's in the wrong place | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and the hair, and it's kind of that grotesqueness that I liked. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
I like you using the word spirit | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
because these all have spirit, don't they? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-Yes. -There is something in them that actually comes through. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
-This lion, I would put at about 17th or 18th century. -Yeah. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
I think about the people that carved them. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Well, I think about them too because they would have ended up very high on buildings, wouldn't they? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
And you would look up at them, if you could actually see them at all. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-Yes. -And this one here, which is very sharp - you know - | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
I can see why he thought it might have been Victorian. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
-Yeah. -But I would have thought it was earlier. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
I think the thing about this whole collection is it has spirit. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
How much did you pay? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Um, moving round... | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
-I paid 500 for that. -Right. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
-I paid 200 for this, delivered. I think this was about 400. -Yes. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
I think this was more because | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
I'd had a little bit to drink and it was in an auction, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
and I paid 1,500 for that but I just thought it was sweet. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Well, I have to say, you've done incredibly well. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I think the prices are really neither here nor there, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
as far as these pieces were works of art. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
Nothing, I think, medieval here, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
but all good sort of 16th, 17th, 18th century here. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
My favourite, of course - the one that is strongest, I suppose - | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
the most secular probably, is this one here | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
and I would say that that's your - £500, you said - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
let's add a nought and say £5,000. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
-Wow! -I can't see that that... | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
I didn't think that, I really didn't. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I would have been happy with anything around 500, you know? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-Undoubtedly. -That's wonderful! | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Prices on the others, you know, the prices you paid are very little. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
-Except that one. -As you say - except that one possibly. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
-The wine, I assume, was very good? -It was, a good day. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-Good, excellent. -Thank you very much. -Thanks. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Now, they say all the nice girls love a sailor. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Do you love your sailors? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
That would be giving the game away, wouldn't it, really? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
-I love this one. -What, just that one there? Not his two mates? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Well, the whole thing. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:23 | |
I love it too. It is... It's just very, very stylish. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
So is this something you bought? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
No, this actually belongs to my mother, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and it was given to her when she was in her late teens. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
It was a gift from a family who lived in the same village as she did, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
in Cockthorpe, Norfolk, as they were leaving | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
to go to... I think it was South Africa. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
They were going to go and set up as a farm over there. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
-It was a parting gift from them. -So they were sailing off? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-They were indeed. -And they left their sailors behind. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-Yes. -It was made in France, in Paris. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
It's by a firm who has a peculiar name, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
so I'll spell it and say it - it's R-O-B-J - | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
which was from the man who founded it, Jean Born, in 1908. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
He took the first initials of his name - B-O-R - | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
reversed them and added the J. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
So I suppose in French it would be Robj, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
but most collectors call it Rob-J. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
It is marked on the bottom and they were a firm that never made anything | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
but they commissioned the very best designers to make pieces. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
Little trinkets and ceramics, little objects de luxe, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
and it was really continuing a tradition of Parisian galleries | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
and shops that only sold the very best pieces. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
In the 18th and early 19th century you went to the Palais-Royal | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
to buy jewellery and little boxes and things | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and Jean Born continued that tradition. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
He died in 1922 in a car crash | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
but his business partner continued the tradition and introduced | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
this line of decanters in 1928 and they were very successful. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
And I think you can see why because it just says, late '20s, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
early '30s, it screams Art Deco. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
The hands are sort of square, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
their faces have this slightly diabolic look. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Even the idea of three sailors back to back - there's a certain, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
there's a joie de vivre about it. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
If we take the hats off, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
there is the bit inside, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
and I suppose also it's well designed | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
because each head becomes a pouring part, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
so no matter where you pour it from, it won't dribble. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
I think it's a very smart piece | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and it's something that in, you know, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
in a very smart gallery in Paris | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
would sell for a smart price, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and I think that price would be £2,000. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
Ooh! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
Several more, if it was in euros. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
LAUGHTER Well, I'll pass that on to my mother, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
she'll be delighted to hear about that. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Well, I think she'll have to fill it | 0:09:51 | 0:09:52 | |
with a rather expensive bottle of liqueur. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Thank you. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Most people would probably look at it and think, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
what an extraordinary looking clock, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
because it doesn't fit that sort of grandfather clock look. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
That's partly why I like it, because it is different. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
So how did it come to you? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Well, actually my late grandfather, in his later years, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
turned quite eccentric | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
and he used to go to the local auctions every week | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
and the understanding I have - | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
he used to fall asleep on the front of all the sofas and things | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
and he used to nod off, and if the auctioneer couldn't sell anything - | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
he seemed to know my grandfather - and would strike it down to him. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
My parents used to dread him coming home! | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
At one stage in his room he had five grandfather clocks, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
all striking at different hours, but he seemed to love it. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
And so he didn't pay, I understand, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
more than about ten shillings for anything, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
-so in Yorkshire terms, it's ten bob. -Wonderful image of an auction house. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Yes, and my eccentric grandad. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
This business of taking bids off the wall and that sort of thing. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
In this instance, something wasn't selling | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
-and he knew your grandfather would have it. -It was a large farmhouse. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-There he was, slumbering at the front. -Yes. Exactly. -That's fantastic. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Would you like to hear where it comes from? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
-Oh, please, there's no markings on it. -I had a look at it earlier | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
and I couldn't find any markings on it either | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
but I do know that the movement is German. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:18 | |
-Oh, really? -And the case is almost certainly French. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
-Gosh, well, you do surprise me. -Does it surprise you? -It does. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
It's very typically French | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
and it has this lovely organic quality about it. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Yes, lovely, because it's got a dandelion on the face, which I think is rather nice. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
And everything else is to do with flowers, leaves, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
and it has that lovely organic shape | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
that starts at the bottom and works up to the branches at the top. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
-Yes. -And it works, and it's very typical of the 1910-1920 period, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
that Art Nouveau period. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
-So that clock's about 100 years old? -Round about that. -Yes, yes. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
It is just possible that it's got a bit of German blood in it. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-Gosh! -These grilles here are slightly Germanic. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
If you can imagine the grilles on a radio, on a wireless set. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
-Oh, yes. -Do you know what I mean? It has that feel about it. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
It's possible that this is French-German border | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
but I'm almost certain that the case is French and the dial and movement are German. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
It's not everyone's cup of tea. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
At auction it has to be worth | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
between £1,000 and £1,500. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Goodness me, I was thinking somewhere about £600-£800. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
-Well, I think it's £1,000-£1,500. -Gosh, that's fabulous! | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
Well, it's not for sale. I love it. It's going back in my dining room. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
Well, you've done a beautiful job of restoration too. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Oh, very kind, thank you very much. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Demand for various antiques changes according to vagaries of fashion | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
but one of the categories that's really performed well over the years | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
have been wine bottles. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
They really have proved to be very popular amongst collectors | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
and what they really like is sealed examples. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
So you start with a bottle like that and it's nothing special. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
But when you add THAT to it, that changes the game. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
A sealed example of an early bottle from 1770 is a good thing. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:10 | |
Have you known it from new? | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
No, no. Maybe about ten years! | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
And how did it come into yours? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Well, when I left the Army, I got a job moving furniture | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
and we were down in London, moving a lady up to Yorkshire | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
and she was going to throw it out. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
I asked her if I could have it, and she said yes, so I took it. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
Bloomin' great! Well, I think that's really nice. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
1770. What are we, 240-250 years ago? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Do you know anything about James Oakes Bury? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
-No. -I do. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
-Do you? -I do. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
-Ooh! -I know something about him | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
because I think his name | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
was James Oakes and he lived in Bury St Edmunds. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Not Bury itself? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Not Bury, Lancashire, but Bury St Edmunds, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
because I've had a little word with somebody | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and I found that he was a wool merchant in Bury St Edmunds, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
a prosperous man, and you can trace him. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
His diaries are published, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
you can actually buy his diaries and follow his life. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
-Good heavens! -And that makes a difference to value. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
-So you start with a bottle like that and it's £100. -Yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
You add a seal to it like that, that makes it £700, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
and you add the actual individual who owned this | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
and you can add a few more quid to that, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-which is not bad for something you blagged as a removal man! -Yeah. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
-Pretty good, eh? -Yeah, so what's it worth? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
-£800 and some more. -No! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:40 | |
-It is. -I was going to say 20 or 30. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-Hold on a minute! -BOTH LAUGH | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
-It belonged to one of my ancestors. -Right. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
-Rear Admiral John Manley, I believe. -Fantastic! | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
Who was born, I think, at the beginning of the 1700s | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
and died somewhere in the late 1700s | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
but I'm not quite sure exactly of the date. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-OK. And so he could well have used this. -Yes. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
Had it in his pocket, maybe to show people where he'd been, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
the battles he had partaken in. It does show a lot of wear and tear. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
I refer to the date, and it's down there, 1754. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
"A new terrestrial globe by Nath" - that's Nathaniel - "Hill", | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
a very well known | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
scientific instrument maker. You don't get a better name than that. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
-Right. -1754. That's before Captain Cook had done his exploratory... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Yes, we had worked that out from the... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-Australia is sort of, obviously, the bit there that's missing. -Yes. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Look at that, Australia is only partly delineated. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
I can just see Van Diemen's Land there. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
And look, New Zealand just gets a little... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-sort of dot in the middle of the ocean. -That's right. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
And, furthermore, North West America is actually just described as | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
"Unknown", so I mean, it's fantastic, isn't it? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Yeah, absolutely. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
-Your ancestor was sailing the seas, very unknown seas. -Yes. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
This really does still hold its colours and its detail, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
-and even the little clasps, they're all there. -Yes. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
-Let's have a look at the fella who this belonged to. -There he is. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
It's a real treat to put a personality to an object. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
They're so often torn apart and of course... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
This is his ship, yes. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
But this is the same ship - | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
-were you aware of that? -No. -No, I didn't know that, no, no. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-Broadside and sternside. -Oh, no, no. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
So they could show off all the sort of technical detail of the rigging | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
and the sort of number of guns. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
This was probably on board that ship for many a decade. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
Right. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Something completely different, I fear, hiding in this box. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Those are his buckles, and I know that. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Wow, that's all I can say, absolutely wow! | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-These are the best shoe buckles I think I've ever seen. -Really? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
I just found them in the bottom of a drawer when I was clearing out. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
-You lucky thing, you lucky thing. -ALL LAUGH | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
These are not diamonds, I'm sure you know that... | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
No, I don't think... They're paste. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-They're paste... -Yes, OK. -..which is English lead glass. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
-Right. -It was easy to cut - easier to cut than diamonds - | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
and one of the great manufacturing skills of the time, making these, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
was done, more often than not, by top quality silversmiths. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
The best ones were always set in silver. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
These have got... I think that's the leftovers of the leather polish from your shoes. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-Right. -These would buff... This is probably solid silver. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Yes, I haven't ever cleaned them or anything. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
No, they don't need cleaning, really. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
And things like this were made... from the sort of 1660s. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Pepys wore them. Out of fashion by the 1790s. These are enormous. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
This was the age of dandyism really and the bigger, the better. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
So what a potted history! | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
We've got the man, the ship, we've got the globe | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
that took him to all the various battles he no doubt partook in. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
-Right. -I've not seen a better pair. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
I think they're worth £1,000 to £1,500. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-Wow! -In an auction. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Gosh, OK. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
The globe. That's a really good one. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
If I was putting that in an auction, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
my estimate would be £5,000 to £7,000. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
It's THAT good, condition is... | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Right, thank you. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
MUSIC: "Rule, Britannia" | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
So anyone familiar with that wonderful mug | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
with the alphabet across it by Eric Ravilious | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
will recognise the style of this print, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
which is of course by Eric Ravilious and it's signed by him - | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
both printed and in pencil, bottom right. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
And it's done in the late 1930s | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
and it's of Newhaven Harbour in East Sussex, isn't it? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
-Yes. -It's not something you see very often. Why is it yours? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
It belonged to my father-in-law and he would have bought it new. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
When he was a young man, he kind of set up his bachelor pad with all modern furniture... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:26 | |
Oh, he wanted to be modern? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Oh, very! We've still got some of the modern furniture. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
And this was one of the things he obviously bought then | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
and it's been in the family ever since. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
It's also one of the first things Eric Ravilious did | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
in the way of prints, in colour, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
because he'd done woodcuts on a smaller scale and monochrome. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
But this, to me, although it's a very sort of muted palette, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
is an explosion of colour | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
and into a much bigger size, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
and of course it's a different medium, really, it's a lithograph. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
-He also called it his homage to Seurat. -Right, I can see why. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
-Yes, you sort of can, can't you? -Yes. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
-It's got that open light about it, hasn't it? -Yes. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
There's a sort of strange stillness about it, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
and even the boats steaming into the harbour | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
seem sort of frozen in the water | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
and there's no people milling around at all. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
It's extraordinarily still | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
and even these clouds sort of hang in the sky, statically. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
And the light in it is very extraordinary as well, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
very strongly lit and highly stylised to suggest that light. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
In this way it's extremely modern. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
But a very individual | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
and British take on modernism for the late 1930s. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Anyway, terrific print, and what's going on here? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
-Cos I notice the signature's... -Well, knowing my father-in-law, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
he would have trimmed it to go into the clip frame he wanted | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
but we didn't actually realise until we took it out yesterday that he'd actually left that little bit there. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
-Oh, I see, so he's cut a little bit off and then... -He'd have cut it. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
He wouldn't have known that it was important, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
it was just a print that he bought as a young man that he really liked. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
Do you think it's important? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:03 | |
Well, when I was looking it up on the internet, as one does... | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
-Yes, of course. -..it kind of said that this one was elusive, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
that was the word they used. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
So I thought, mm, perhaps we better bring it in and have a look. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
Yes, it is a rare print. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
I'll tell you about the missing bit first. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
It's probably worth about 2,000 quid. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
ONLOOKERS GASP AND LAUGH | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
-Serious? -Yes. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Well, I thought the whole picture, if we were lucky, it would be worth 1,000. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
No, it's worth about £4,000 as it is. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
That's fantastic! Well, it's still going up in the clip. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
-No, I think we'll frame it properly when we get home. -Yeah! | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
It's still going up on the wall. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
-Well, quite right. -That's wonderful! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
But it is a really, really wonderful image, I just love it. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
Yes, oh, yes. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
So here, we're standing in front of the Yorkshire Museum | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
with a treasure from Yorkshire, aren't we? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
And what a joy to see a piece of jewellery gleaming in the sun, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
set with sapphires and coloured glass, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
and in a way, it's an object of national importance. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Tell me all about it and what your relationship is with it. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Well, I actually was the lucky person who found the ring, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
metal detecting, and it's been through all the treasure process | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and it's been declared treasure | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
and it's recently been acquired by the Yorkshire Museum. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
And of course everybody's itching to know where and how you found it. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
And I'm jealous already. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
Well, it was found in fields near York, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
with the permission of the landowner, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
with a metal detector on a York club outing. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
What did it feel like, when you first saw it? What was it, to you? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
Well, when I first dug down and saw the glint of gold, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
I knew it was special... | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
Didn't know how old it was at the time | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
and then, obviously, I showed it to the members of the club | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
to try and get an opinion | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
and we thought medieval but then when the British Museum examined it, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
they've come back with 10th or 11th century. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
10th or 11th century, my goodness me! | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
I mean, thousands of years in the ground and untouched, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
and precious stones are untouched by that, gold is untouched by it. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Glass is touched a little bit, it alters its character a little, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
but glass is a perfectly respectable and ancient...material | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
to use in jewellery. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
And I have a feeling that this might be glass simulating garnet work | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and I think that might be a key to the age of it, mightn't it? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
That's what the British Museum said, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
that's why they came up with the later date. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Garnet was used more in the 6th and 7th century, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
so there's a little bit of mismatch with the dates at the moment. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
We still need to do more research. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
What I'd really love to hope is that this is a Viking ring | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
because York is the great Viking centre, isn't it? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
It's the most marvellous connection if one could make that. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
-I think without a shadow of doubt, it's a man's ring. -I think so. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
I'd like to think of that as a Viking warrior using that, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
an emblem of his status - | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
that he could afford pure gold, he could afford to have sapphires, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
and the sapphire is critical too, isn't it? Tell me about that one. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
It is, apparently, it's the second oldest sapphire | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
that's been found in the country, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
which is quite mind-blowing. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-The oldest was a Roman one, 5th century. -Yes. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Yesterday and today is the first time I've seen it in the flesh for two years... | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
-And still exciting? -Still exciting, yeah. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
The light is falling on it. You made light fall on it. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
It had been in the darkness for possibly a thousand years. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
It's not yours any more, is it? | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
No, it's been acquired by the Yorkshire Museum, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
which I'm very proud to be associated with, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
because it's in such good company with the artefacts already there. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Yes, exactly. And I suppose everybody wants to know, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
it's a lottery win in an emotional sense, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
but it's a lottery win in another sense in that, of course, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
the museum has bought it from you, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
-and that figure is public, isn't it? -It is, yes, £35,000. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
£35,000 for a dream. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Basically, the monetary reward | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
that the Treasure Valuation Committee put on it | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
gets shared between the finder and the landowner. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
So there'll be a happy farmer in Yorkshire now. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Well, I think a very happy farmer, but content in the concept | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
that he's actually sold something of really national importance | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
and it's now safe, and that's critical, isn't it? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
It's been marvellous to talk to you about it, thank you very much. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
Well, they say there's nothing new invented under the sun | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
but every now and again, a designer comes along | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
to have a tweak and improve. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
And we've been sitting for thousands of years but I love chairs | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
and I love to see chairs, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
and this is a beautiful chair but tell me, where did it come from? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Well, we bought a new house about two years ago, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
a 1930s house, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
and it was in with the package. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
So when we went around the house it was in there, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
and then when we moved in, we found it, and it was still in the house. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
Wow, so just one of these left behind. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
-Yeah, two, left behind. -Two? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
So we've two of these. We couldn't bring them both down with us today. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
So what did you think when you saw them? Did you like them? | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Well, we love them, the style of them's absolutely gorgeous | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
and the low seats are really, really nice, aren't they? | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
They did have a cover over the top, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
so for a while they had pots of paint balanced on while we decorated | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
and then once we finished that and took the dust cover off, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
we realised how nice they were. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
So, basically, you've had pots of paint balancing on | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
what I'm going to say to you is a British design classic. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
It was designed in 1946 by a gentleman called Eric Lyons. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Oh, right. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Eric Lyons was an architect, first and foremost, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
but after the war, he got into product design | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and he actually developed a range of furniture called the Tecta - | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
which is this - for the Packet Furniture Company in Great Yarmouth. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-Right. -Now, this chair actually has the most brilliant name, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
-it's called the "demountable easy chair". -Brilliant! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
I'm sure you found it very easy to demount yourself out of it. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
-Yes, definitely, yes. -Absolutely. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
It is comfort but the thing is | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
that it actually sums up everything about product design, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
just after the war. It's bent plywood, this one's covered in oak. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
It's all about the new ideas that they were coming up with, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
that came out of the war effort. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
They were having to think on their feet | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
and new products and new ways of manufacturing were developed and this is one of these products. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
I mean, we've got a fantastic label just underneath - there it is - | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
the "Tecta", actually there with the "E Kahn & Co", | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
who were a subsidiary company that worked with Packet Furniture. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
But, you know, it's a fantastic piece of furniture. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
I have to ask, what do you think of the fabric and all this covering as well? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Well, we're not a big fan. When we took the sheets off it, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
we were going to get it reupholstered and change the fabric. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
What you've got is the original fabric and not only that, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
the fabric is also designed by somebody really important. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
-Oh, right. -It was actually designed by a lady called Marianne Straub. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
-Right. -Who in the 1940s to 1960s was probably one of the leading | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
commercial textile designers of her day. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
You've got a chair that is in many museums... | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
is considered an absolute classic, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
and it got left behind in your house. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
And we stood on it to paint the ceiling. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Well, why not? You've got to use these things for something. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
I'd probably say maybe stop standing on it. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
-Right. -I'd also say don't re-cover it. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
-Yes. -Live with it. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
It's had a life and the life tells a story of what it is, as a chair. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
It's a beautiful shape, it's a beautiful form, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
it's by a great designer. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
You've got two of them | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
and if you had to go out and replace them, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
you'd need about £1,000-£1,500 to buy them again. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
-Wow, interesting! -Surprise. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
That's very surprising! | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
This was donated to Fairfax House about 15 years ago and it's come with no information whatsoever. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
Now, this is the lovely Fairfax House here in York, fantastic townhouse museum. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
Yes, we have a fantastic furniture collection | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
-but this isn't something we specialise in. -OK, how flattering! | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
A museum has come to the Roadshow to find out about it. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
-Of course! -What have you found out about it? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
We know it came to England in the 1940s with a family that was escaping persecution during the war, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
a German Jewish family. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
But other than that there's nothing really to give us | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
any idea about provenance or where it's come from. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
OK, but being a rather good museum, I know you'll have done... | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
you'll have picked up on some of the clues. It says here, "Hubertusburg", | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
which is indeed the name of this palace, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
and also here on the date, in Latin, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
the equivalent of 1763. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
You've got a little figure here of Victory, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
or Fame, blowing her trumpet and peace being declared, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
and in fact 1763 was the year in which the Treaty of Paris | 0:29:38 | 0:29:43 | |
marked the end of the Seven Years' War. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
This was a complicated war and I won't go into the complexity. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
-No. -But part of it was that Prussia was also at war with Austria | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
and their part of the Treaty was settled at Hubertusburg, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
at this very palace. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
So this actually commemorates the end of the Seven Years' War, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
as far as the Prussians and the Austrians were concerned. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
And if we look inside... let's see, here we go, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
there is more sort of declaration of peace. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
We've got down here it says, "Germania Pacata". | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
I guess that means, more or less, "Germany at peace". | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
So everything about this tells us it's peace. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
Hubertusburg was actually built by Augustus I - | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
otherwise known as Augustus the Strong - | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
the man we constantly refer to when we talk about Meissen porcelain, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
-the very first European porcelain factory. -I see. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
And by the time peace was signed at Hubertusburg, it was his son | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Augustus III who was in charge. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Now this is the thing that really - | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
I think this is where you're going to learn a little bit, I hope. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Here you have a tantalising little paper label. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
It's a collector's label and it's sadly ripped off here and there. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
But what I can make out here is the German word for... | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
Well, a silver cabinet...of the prince and it says "Albrechtsb..." | 0:30:57 | 0:31:04 | |
Well, Albrechtsburg is where the Meissen factory was | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
and, my guess is, possibly where Augustus the Strong | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
had his cabinet of curiosities. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
And then you've got a very neatly written number, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
which is a category number. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
So I believe this was in the collection of Augustus III | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
and that it went into his collection at the Albrechtsburg, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
back at HQ. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
So the question is, how did it get from there to Fairfax House? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:36 | |
And the clue you gave is this family that was fleeing from Germany. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
-Yes, yes. -Yeah. -That's remarkable. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
And I do know that some of the porcelains | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
were actually de-accessioned - that's the polite word - | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
were sold out of the Albrechtsburg, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
I think it was in the late 1890s or the early 20th century. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
It's just possible that this is a perfectly bona fide sale. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
If that hadn't been the case, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
then one would have to think about the possibility of this having been...what's the word? | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
Liberated. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
It's a lovely thing. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
And an irony for a piece that went into the Albrechtsburg - | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
famous for its Meissen porcelain is, contrary to appearances - | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
it's not made of porcelain. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
Is it enamel? | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
It's enamel, it's enamelled copper. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
An amazingly important moment in European history | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
and so beautifully captured. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
It's a lovely, lovely thing. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
So lucky old Fairfax House, I'd say. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
-Indeed. -And Fairfax House have no intention of knowing its worth. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
None whatsoever but if you happen to tell us, we wouldn't mind! | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
You need to know for insurance. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
I guess that if you were selling it on the open market, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
you might get somewhere in the region of £4,000 or £5,000 for it, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
so maybe insure it for a little bit more than that. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Lovely. That's very helpful, thank you. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
I have watched this | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
wending its way through the queue | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
for hours and hours and hours. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
And finally it got to my desk | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and I'm so pleased to see it! I mean, you can sort of... | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:01 | |
It does have a certain charm to it. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-OK, so it's a wooden leg. -Yes. -How did you get it? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
-Because I can see you are not legless. -Yet. -Yet! | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
Hopefully soon. It was just... It was a birthday present off somebody. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:19 | |
That said they thought I would appreciate it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
And I was quite shocked cos when I opened the door, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
the person was holding it like a bat and I thought... | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
I kind of saw my life flash across my eyes and then I thought, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
actually, no, that's not a bat, it's a wooden leg! | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
And actually, yeah, I really do appreciate it, I love it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
It's a great object, you know. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
It's a rather strange birthday gift | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
but, you know, I don't know what happens in York. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
If the leg fits. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
If a leg fits, wear it, I say. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
It is an early one. I would say it's early 19th century, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
so it could even be Napoleonic. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
I know! When I say "Napoleonic" | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
I look at you, and you're going "Kerching! Kerching! Kerching!" | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
Well, it is a bit of a kerching - I would say it is £500-£700. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
-Really? -No! No way! -Got it, exactly. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
Now you did think that when you came in earlier on today? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-No! I just thought... -So why did you...? -I hate it, I really hate it. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
I've had to carry it around all day long. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
He won't allow it in our tent, we're tenting. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
We've come from Merseyside in a tent | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
and he won't let it in the tent because he's scared of it. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-I like it a lot more now, I have to say. -How mercenary! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
So you hate it. Why did you bring it? Why did you come along today? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Well, Lily just mentioned the Antiques Roadshow | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
and I've watched it every week, all my life, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
and the fact that like made it to this point and met you - | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
because I just, I love you. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
And I feel like you've brought me up, in a way. I really do! | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
That's made my day! How fantastic! | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
-You've made my day. -It's made ours. £500-£700! Who wants to buy a leg? | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
This is a stunning piece of furniture, how long have you had it? | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
I inherited it from my mother | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
and it's been in my house ever since. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
She inherited it from her father | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
and we have a letter at home, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
relating to the transfer from my grandfather back in 1939. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:30 | |
-It's going down the female line. -Yes, it will go to my daughter. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
So that's a trend you'll continue. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
As long as there are daughters to pass it on to. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
It's beautifully inlaid. Do you know where it's from? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
All we know is that... it is known within the family, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
and in this original letter, as an Italian travelling desk. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Well, Italian is right. Both pieces of furniture are Italian. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
-It is made of rosewood, as is the chair. -Right. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Rosewood, ivory inlaid with ebony sort of borders. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
-Yes, yes. -Although these are both 19th century pieces of furniture, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
made around 1890 in Italy, they both relate | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
-to pieces of furniture from different centuries. -Ah, OK. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
The desk itself is of a form known as a bureau Mazarin. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
These two pedestals, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
each with three drawers, four feet and then a central X stretcher, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
-is pure bureau Mazarin form. -Right. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
One thing that strongly points to this being 19th century, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
rather than the 17th century, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
is this superstructure here. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
You don't normally get these superstructures on bureaux Mazarins. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
-Right. -But whereas the origins for the desk date back | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
to the late 17th century, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:45 | |
around 1680s when these desks were first made, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
this is sort of different altogether. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
-OK, OK. -The origins for this are 15th century Italy. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:56 | |
-Right. -And it's known as a Savonarola chair. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Yes. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
And Savonarola is here in person. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
-Yes. -This central medallion is the man himself. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
-Yes. -He was a 15th century friar, Dominican friar... -OK. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
..based in Florence, and he had a chair like this in San Marco, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:18 | |
near Florence, so 15th century origins. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
-Yes. -17th century origins, but both made in the 19th century. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
Right. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Now, had they been pieces from their original centuries... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
-Yes. -..they would have been obviously very high in value. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
-Right. -As it stands, if you were to sell a chair | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
and a desk like this, now, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
at auction, you would get something in the region of £3,000. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
It's a lovely piece of furniture | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
and it is a part of the family and...yeah. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
And is the chair comfortable? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
No, it's not. The chair is used in a similar situation as this. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
We have it in the hall, put coats on it, that sort of thing. It's lovely. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
How much do you know about your panel? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Well, very little, apart from the fact | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
that it has been inherited through my mother | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
and it came down through her uncle, who came from quite a large family | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
that came originally from Liverpool... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
Right. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
..where they founded a company in dyes, originally aniline dyes, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
and then this moved over to chemical dyes. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
Right, and so that - I think we can say - | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
was a very successful business, because of course that created | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
all sorts of different possibilities with textiles. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
But what it tells me is that they were successful, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
and therefore probably quite well established, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
and we can even say wealthy family. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Because something like this would be in the ownership of a family | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
that had disposable income. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
In the 19th century terms, this is what I would call | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
a Grand Tour souvenir. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Do you know what the technique is here? | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
I have no idea, no, I haven't. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Well, to all intents and purposes, it's a picture | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
but it is incredibly cleverly made. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
It is called pietra dura | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
and it's a plaque or panel | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
that is composed of irregularly cut | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
and highly polished stone - | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
marble, semi-precious stone and precious stones, intricately laid - | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
almost like a jigsaw puzzle - | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
to form this amazing picture. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
And the absolute skill of the creator was that he could see | 0:39:36 | 0:39:42 | |
the intrinsic beauty in the stone, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
so he used its natural qualities to put it in the right place, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
and you can see this just so clearly | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
here in the glass and the neck of the wine bottle. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
I think this is probably a slice of chalcedony | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
and that gives it the opaqueness. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
You can see the glass is there. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
Something else that I love is the actual subject matter. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
You've got this lovely figure of a child crouching down | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
with what would have been a very new fangled object - | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
which is a mouse trap - | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
and this lovely cat - sitting there. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
She's almost redundant because the mouse trap will take over her work. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
And all of this is being overseen by this old lady who's spinning. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
So, where do you think it might have been bought from? | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
Somewhere in Italy, possibly Rome. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Florence, I think. It's Florentine. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Florentine, dating from somewhere around 1890, that sort of thing. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
So they would have been established by then, aniline dyes, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
we're talking about the middle of the 19th century, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
and towards the end of the century they would have made their money. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
-So they were able to afford something like this. -Wonderful. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
I think it's fabulous, really lovely! | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
It's so vibrant and colourful. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
-Well, it has a value. -Aha. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-And I'm going to give you an auction estimate. -Right. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
These sort of things do very well at sale | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
and a pre-sale estimate, I think, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
would be somewhere in the region of £4,000-£6,000. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
Yes, it's amazing! | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I couldn't believe you brought me such a huge piece of Whitby jet. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
Where on earth did you find it? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Well, it was my father's. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
He had it about 40 years. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
In his youth and as a young man, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
he used to go round sale rooms quite a lot | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
and he bought an awful lot of rubbish | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
but he also bought one or two nice things. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
And then that was handed down to me and we've had it about 40 years. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
Well, it's an amazing, huge piece of jet. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Yes. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
And, of course, jet is fossilized monkey-puzzle tree. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
It's a little bit like coal. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:05 | |
It was carved and it was a little industry in Whitby, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
of course made highly popular by Queen Victoria with popular mourning jewellery. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
It's signed "John Speedy, Whitby". | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
-Yes. -John Speedy actually won a prize for the best jet carving in 1861. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
-Oh, really? -And that was for a bunch of flowers. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
But this, I think, is every bit as good. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
-It is the top of the tree of jet carving. -Amazing. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
I don't think you could probably find a better piece of jet. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
I've shown it to several colleagues. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
Nobody's seen a piece this big or this good. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
And, as a consequence, it's worth a reasonable amount of money. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Oh, even more interesting! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:43 | |
Well, I think you'd be interested to hear that, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
to the right collector, they would pay £2,000 for this. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Oh, excellent, delighted! | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
Well, I'm delighted you've brought it in, thank you so much, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
it's an amazing thing. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
-And how great to be here in York, just down the road. -That's true. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
-A bit of Yorkshire. -Indeed. -Thank you so much. -Thank you very much. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
Now, York and chocolate, | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
it's like Norwich and mustard, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
and of course we should be looking at a tin of cocoa | 0:43:12 | 0:43:16 | |
but it's slightly battered. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
What makes it worthy of sitting on a plinth here? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:23 | |
-It's travelled a long way. -OK, where from? | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
Antarctica. This was in the tent | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
with Scott of the Antarctic when he died. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
This was one of a couple of tins of cocoa that were left, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
as part of his Terra Nova Expedition. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
And he took it with him, he ran out of fuel, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
he couldn't melt down any more snow to mix with the cocoa to drink, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
and he and his fellows died. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
And in 1912, eight months after he died, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
an expedition went out to rescue him, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
and found his body, buried his comrades, and rescued this tin | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
and his diaries and brought it back and it was given to the company. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:59 | |
Extraordinary, extraordinary story. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
I mean, let's talk a little bit about Scott. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
This extraordinary hero who was beaten to the South Pole. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:13 | |
The disappointment that Scott felt in January, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:17 | |
when he realised that he'd been beaten to the pole. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
He turned round, he set off back towards what he hoped was safety. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:26 | |
29th March, it was the end. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
I mean, that was the last entry in his diary. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
The last entry read, "For God's sake look after our people". | 0:44:32 | 0:44:38 | |
An object of huge power. It shared those last moments with Scott. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
And...I don't want to handle it. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
I mean, I know there are white gloves available. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
But I feel actually by putting my hand on this object, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:54 | |
I will be shaking hands with Scott, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
which is an extraordinary powerful emotion for me, personally. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
It came back. It went to the manufacturers, to Rowntree's, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
who I think sponsored in some way, the trip. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
-Then what happened? -It was kept in our archive for a very long time. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
We know that it was with my predecessor Joe Burr in the 1970s. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
I have a photograph of him holding it. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
Then, probably about 16 years ago, it went missing. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
And then I got the job as archivist quite a few years ago, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:27 | |
and I decided I really want to find this. I'm going to search for it. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
And one day, when I was collecting something else from another factory, | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
I found this anonymous looking tin, in amongst some other tins. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
It was getting quite battered | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
and I recognised the very distinctive rust markings | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
on the label from that photograph with my other colleague | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
and thought, "I think that might be the tin". | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
I didn't believe it for a while, so I didn't tell anyone for a few weeks. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
And I eventually said, "I think I've found that tin". | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
And my colleagues all said, "Oh, well done". | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
So there was your eureka moment, your find, the find of your career. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
I mean, Scott is still regarded by many as the ultimate British hero. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:09 | |
By some, latterly, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
his actions have been looked at, re-examined. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
Was he culpable for the loss of life of that entire expedition? | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
Who knows? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:23 | |
What I do know is that there is an extraordinary passion | 0:46:23 | 0:46:28 | |
for anything to do with Scott. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
The Scott Polar Research Institute for instance, in Cambridge, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:35 | |
has a wonderful museum with lots of Scott memorabilia there. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
It's an object which, in a way, is completely worthless. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:44 | |
It's a tin of cocoa! Probably not much good to drink. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
But you look at it in another way and it is utterly priceless. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
It's worth a lot to us. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
We know that as far as value goes, it's only worth about £800. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
We've seen another Scott plate that appeared on the Roadshow | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
and that was the value but to us it's worth a lot because we, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
as a company and as employees, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
put so much into that expedition and so this is our remembrance of that. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:16 | |
Exactly, exactly. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:17 | |
Well, I think whether we say that it's something | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
that shouldn't be put a price on... | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
All I can say is that I think an insurance figure of £800 | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
does not compensate you for an object of this power | 0:47:28 | 0:47:33 | |
and I think that, certainly for an insurance point of view, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
you should be putting more like £5,000 on it. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
So it's...it's something I don't really want to value | 0:47:39 | 0:47:45 | |
because the idea of it ever being an insurance claim | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
fills me with dark, dark dread. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:51 | |
But it's an object which, as I say, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
sitting here, and if I put my hands round it, | 0:47:54 | 0:47:57 | |
my hands would be in the same place as Scott of the Antarctic | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
and there aren't many objects you can say that about. Thank you. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
A vivid example of how | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
the most humble of objects can prove extraordinarily moving. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
Remember this ring - discovered by a metal detectorist - | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
that Geoffrey Munn looked at earlier? | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
Well, here it is now, in pride of place in the Yorkshire Museum | 0:48:19 | 0:48:24 | |
and it's just one of hundreds of fascinating objects | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
that these days, anyone can see. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Our thanks to our hosts for making us so welcome. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow team and the Yorkshire Museum, bye-bye. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 |