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This week we are at Hever Castle in the beautiful Kent countryside. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
And this is a place of many secrets because it was once home to | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
one of the most famous and fascinating women in English history - Anne Boleyn. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
Working on the Roadshow | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
brings us to some remarkable historic houses across the country. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
Our team of experts leapt at the chance to visit Hever Castle | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
because it's here that you can get closest to Anne Boleyn. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
This is a replica of the clock that Henry VIII gave to | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Anne Boleyn on their wedding day in 1532. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
And it's particularly appropriate that he gave her a timepiece, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
given that he had to wait seven years for Anne, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
and to marry her, he had to split from the Catholic Church | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
and so change the course of British history. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Not long after, their only child, the future Elizabeth I, was born. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
And then, after just 1,000 days as Queen, Anne was executed. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
But even here, where Anne's short and dramatic life began, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
it's sometimes hard to find the real Anne Boleyn. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
We know this was most likely her bedroom, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
but we don't know what she looked like, for example. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Is this her? Or this? Or this? | 0:01:51 | 0:01:57 | |
And when was she born? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:58 | |
When Henry VIII visited her here, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
was she an ingenue of 18, or a sophisticated young woman of 25? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
Thankfully, there are objects here that give us | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
that magical direct link to Anne herself. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
This is Anne's prayer book. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Incredible to think that she actually touched these pages | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
with their dense type and beautiful illustrations. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
And she and Henry VIII, when they were courting, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
used to write little notes to each other, in their prayer books. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
And look, here, at the bottom of the page, it says, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
"Remember me when you do pray, that hope doth lead from day to day." | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
And there's her signature just at the bottom there. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
"Anne Boleyn". | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
And hopefully today's Roadshow will discover more magical objects | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
which bring history to our fingertips. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
This looks most intriguing, all I can see is a little hand. Who's is this? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
This is Monty, my dog's rug. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
And where's Monty? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
He's at home. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
-Well, how does he feel about this? -He's not very happy about it. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Let's see what it's wrapping up. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
My goodness, that's wonderful, isn't it? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
This is where I get a hernia. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
I wonder who she's by. Is it signed anywhere? | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
Yes, just down here, just there, look. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Oh, yes, there we are. Lefebvre. Hippolyte Jules Lefebvre. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
And how did you come by her? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
She was left to me in a will. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:28 | |
I used to go and have cups of tea with a little elderly lady | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
down the road and she was on her own, so I used to keep her company. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
And when she passed away, she left me in her will. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
How very nice, and was it on this as well? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-Yes, the whole thing. -The whole thing? | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
Gosh, you must have been a favourite neighbour. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
-I made good tea! -You made good tea, excellent. Strong or weak? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
Strong. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
-Well, it obviously kept her going for a while. -Yes, yes! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-And what do you know about her? -Not a lot, actually. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
We tried a bit of Googling and we asked some people | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
that we know that do auction things, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
but we can't find out a lot about her, which is why I'm here. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Well, I mean certainly as far as date is concerned, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
she is classically Art Nouveau, really, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
sort of late-ish Art Nouveau | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
because we've got electricity coming in, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-and I think this is certainly pre-First War. -Right. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
So, sort of circa 1910ish. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
And it's so elegant, isn't it? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
She's very beautiful, yes. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
Yes, yes, do... I mean, I dread to think, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
-particularly with Monty... -I haven't plugged it in. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
You haven't? Because it does look like Monty may have chewed this. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
No, it wasn't Monty, it came like that, but I haven't plugged it in. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
I have been told it could be rewired, but I didn't want to touch it before I had it valued. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
Well, obviously it loses some originality if you start to take out... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
-But I think you ought to, certainly if you intend to light her up. -Yes, OK. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
And it wouldn't be impossible to get more glass beads as well. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
That's what I wanted to do, I wanted to sort of renovate her. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
-I think it would be a great thing. -I think she'd be really beautiful. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Yes, well, you know, these French bronzes of Art Nouveau style | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
are still hugely desirable | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
and I would imagine in today's market it would be worth | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-certainly £2,000 and possibly even as much as £3,000. -Oh, right. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It's a really beautiful bronze. And I do think that you should have it rewired. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
Renovated. That won't make a difference to the price, will it? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
I don't think so. And you simply can't use it at the moment. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-I think it would be lovely if it was all up and running again. -Yeah, OK. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
This is an absolutely stunning spoon. Do you know what it is? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
I know it's a caddy spoon. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
Right. It's not just any caddy spoon, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
-this is one of the best caddy spoons I've ever seen on a Roadshow. -Gosh. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Do you know anything about its history? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Only that my father had had it for a number of years. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
He collected silver and this was one of his favourite pieces. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
I knew it was very nice quality, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
but don't know a lot else about it, really. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
There are three ways in which caddy spoons tend to be made. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
They're either stamped in a die or they're made out of sheet, | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
or they're cast, which is the best way, and this is a cast one. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
But just look at the wonderful detail, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
this fabulous swan's neck handle here. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
The quality of this fluting, all this matting has not got | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
any signs of wear on it at all, so it's in wonderful condition. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
Even better news is that the collectors market at the moment | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
-is really, really hot for great, rare spoons like this. -Is it? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
And if we have a look in the bowl here, it's got some hallmarks. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
IW. That's for James Wintle, a well known spoon maker. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
And it's got a date letter "N" for 1848, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
so it's an early Victorian cast caddy spoon, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
great rarity and actually quite valuable. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
-Is it really? -Mm, I'm afraid it is! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
I would comfortably say we're looking at probably £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:53 | |
No! Goodness me, I had no idea. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
So, can I ask you, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
are you an old rocker, to posses a portrait of Mick Jagger? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Well, I am, but I'm afraid I don't possess it. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
-Oh. -I've brought it today on behalf of my employer. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Right. Is he a rocker? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
On the contrary! | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
He's a very traditional gentleman, he's 89 years old | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
and is very interested in the Belle Epoque | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and antiquities of one sort or another. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But he saw this picture in 1966, fell in love with it, bought it, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:36 | |
took it home and it's had pride of place on his studio wall ever since. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Well, what a great story, and what a great eye he had, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
considering he wasn't perhaps into contemporary music of the time. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
-Absolutely not. -And it was bought in the Lefebvre Gallery in 1966, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
which was a superb gallery, selling all the great sort of art, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
and this is by Cecil Beaton. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-Correct. -Now, we know Cecil Beaton as a photographer | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and as a stage designer. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
And a producer of great plays like Gigi, My Fair Lady, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
so it's very surprising to know that | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-he is a seriously good painter as well. -Absolutely. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
And I believe that Cecil Beaton was always very interested in meeting | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Mick Jagger and first met him in the '60s, and according to biography, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
I think by Hugo Vickers, who wrote the biography on Cecil Beaton, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
they met in the '60s and he loved his face, and he loved, he liked | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
those cheeks and that incredible look that Mick Jagger has. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
I think he's captured it very well, of course. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
The style is very good because it's quite sort of Pop Art, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
quite Andy Warhol. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
-Yes, yes. -Do you see that? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
And I like the way he's brought it very close. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
It's like a photographer here. He's come | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
very close into the portrait and it is like a photograph | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
but done in this amazing style, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
and what a great painter he is. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
Perfect. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
So what did it cost in 1966? | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
I believe it was in the hundreds, so I understand. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-The hundreds, quite a lot of money. -Quite a lot of money in those days. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Yeah, so I think I would insure it for £30,000. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Wow! Wow, wow! | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
That is a significant sum. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
It is, it's a good sum and I think it's worth every penny. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Thank you, I'm sure my... my chief will be very interested to hear that comment | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
when he gets back from holiday. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
He'd better go again on holiday with the proceeds! | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-A good day's work. -Good, thanks for bringing it. -Thanks very much, Mark. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
What do you think of these? Are they nice, or not? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
-Be honest with me, are they fetching? -Well, it's not doing a lot for me. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
-No. -It's the latest Roadshow attire for a rainy day. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
But we're enjoying ourselves nonetheless, aren't we, Geoffrey? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
We are, absolutely. A stiff upper lip and we're in Henry VIII's little palace, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
-and what more could you ask, even in the wet weather? -You see, it's all going to be fine. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Well, wacky is the word that's usually stuck on me | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
on this show, but, boy, does this take the biscuit. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
This is a really funny thing, I just love it, it's just amazing, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
tell us the story. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Well, sadly it's not mine, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
it belongs to an aunt and she bought it from auction | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
in a box of...£5. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
But it was apparently buried in the sand at Herne Bay. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
And that's all we know about it. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:47 | |
We wondered where the Loch Ness Monster had gone! | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
It ended up in the sand at Herne Bay. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
I actually really love it, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
I mean it's a real shame its wings have gone. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
And it's an incomplete object, and so...you know. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
A bit of wacky, I just love it, but it's probably worth about four quid. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
On the other hand, you also brought that in. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
-I did indeed. -And what's the story of that? | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
This again, Auntie's. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
She bought it from a sort of bric-a-brac type store for a pound, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:19 | |
a couple of years ago. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
-Did you know it was made of glass? -No. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Well, it is, and it dates from about 1760 | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
and is a really lovely academic antique. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
The story about it is that the 1745 excise tax was imposed on the | 0:11:33 | 0:11:39 | |
production of glassware to finance the army to fight back the Scots. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
The Scots were invading England, they got to Derby, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
and to finance the war against the Scots, they brought in a glass tax, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
in 1745, and through a loophole in this law, white glass | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
was exempt from the tax, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
just at a time when English porcelain was coming in. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
You've got Bow, Plymouth, Bristol porcelain coming in, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
it's not very good but it's extremely expensive. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
On the other hand, you could make white glass fairly cheaply, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
So this is an imitation of English china, but it's made of glass. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:14 | |
1777, they realised the mistake, brought in a tax | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
but by then it was gone, so this dates between 1745 and 1777 | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
and it probably dates to about 1755-60. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
It's made in South Staffordshire, it's just a really beautiful | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
little gem that's 250 years old. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Wow. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
And is worth £600 to £800. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
No way! Well done, Auntie, wow. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
When I first saw this table, from quite a distance, I thought, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
"Well, there's another Regency table." Well, how wrong I was, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
because when I got up close to it, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
I thought, "This is quite extraordinary." | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
It looks like a table that should be much bigger | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
because it's got quite a monumental character to it. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
I think I know why it was this size, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
and that is to take this piece of rectangular green porphyry, | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
extremely valuable, and only found in the Laconia region of Greece. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
So I think | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
this table was made to fit the marble. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
And the table itself, the frame, is in a sense, to me, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
equal in value to the porphyry on the top. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Can you tell me anything, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
can you fill in the background of this table a little bit? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
A person called Mary Elgin, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
who was married to the Seventh Earl of Elgin, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
and he was an ambassador to Constantinople | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
in the late 18th Century, early 19th. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
And they came back to the UK, in about 1802, I think. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:53 | |
So are we talking about the Elgin who was responsible for | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
-bringing the Elgin Marbles back? -That's right. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
-Ah. -That's right. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
But she brought back this sheet of porphyry | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
which I thought came from upper Egypt, but you say Greece. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:11 | |
OK, you're the expert. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And, apparently, it was considered to be very valuable at the time, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:19 | |
more so than any other stone anywhere, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
and so that's the way things happened in those days. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Well, that is extremely interesting, because you mentioned the date 1802. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
-Yes. -Well, in 1804 in London, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
there was the opening to a very select public | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
of a house which became very famous. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
It was the house that was remodelled by Thomas Hope, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
who was the most important arbiter of taste of the early 19th Century | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
and from which much Regency design was to spring. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
And Hope had done an enormous Grand Tour, he was hugely wealthy, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
and his house had a series of rooms, all of which had a different theme. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
It had an Egyptian theme, a Greek theme, Indian theme, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
because he'd been to all these places. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
And from Thomas Hope | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
allowing the sort of gentry and the aristocracy to go round his home, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
lots of other people picked up the styles that he was promoting, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
and this table speaks to me of the style generated by Thomas Hope. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
There's very strong Classical influences in it. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
The feet have this wonderful... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
beautiful quality feet, I should say, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
which are carved wood with a claw foot, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
and then these anthemia, half anthemia scrolls. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
And then a plinth base which makes it very solid, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
coming up into acanthus leaves, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
and it has a solidity which, I think is very sort of Classical, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
monumentality which is very Classical. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
But Thomas Hope also used something which was really relatively new | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
in English furniture at that time, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
which was the introduction of stamped brass inlay. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
And you have a lot of that on this little table in different patterns. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
You have it along the top, around the porphyry, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
you have it on the frieze in a different pattern. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
And once more on the base, in this delightful little lacy pattern. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
And this was a new technology, being able to stamp brass. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
It's often associated with a maker called George Bullock. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
But there was also a maker who supplied the rich and the famous, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
many aristocratic patrons at the time, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
called George Oakley | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
and he is known to have supplied many people like Lord Harwood, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
the Earl of Harwood. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
and this table speaks to me of that sort of quality. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
It's a very, very top quality table, it's extremely exciting. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
Good. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Now, you've had it in the family a long time, have you had it valued? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:54 | |
No. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
I think you would be... | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
I don't think I'm being over optimistic to say £20,000. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Really? Yeah, well, it's not going to be sold. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
I'm very glad to hear it, and when I say £20,000, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
that's not insurance value, that's a sale value. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
A sale value, right. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
I have to... I'm not known for giving high valuations. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
This, I think, is the highest valuation I've ever given on the Roadshow and I think | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
it's the best piece of furniture I've ever seen on the Roadshow and I'm absolutely thrilled. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
Well, thank you very much. I'm overwhelmed. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Marvellous. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
This was given to me by my grandmother and she told me | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
it was her grandmother's, so that's all I know. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
That's all you know. You didn't ask her any more questions? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
She went through it, she showed me all of her jewellery | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
and explained each one, but I'm afraid I can't remember | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
about this particular item so I've forgotten anything else she may have told me about it, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
unfortunately, and too late to go back and ask her now. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Yeah, we always wish that we'd asked more, don't we, at the time. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
-Yes. -Definitely. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:03 | |
Well, it is an absolutely gorgeous brooch and on | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
a rainy and sunny day like we've had today, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
to see this dragonfly brooch, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
it would have been lovely to have actually seen some dragonflies | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
in the garden, but at least we've got this one. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
It dates from around about 1890-1900, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
and it's a perfect example of jewellery | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
-known as the Art Nouveau period. -OK. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
And the Art Nouveau period was all about natural things, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
female beauty, and also the wonderful effects that you get | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
when you have a brooch like this, that if you touch it, it moves. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
-Yes. -And this is what we call "en tremblant", | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
so it's a lovely movement to the actual piece of jewellery. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
It's made with plique a jour enamel | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
and if it's held up to the sunlight, then the sun shines through | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
and it's rather like stained glass window, and the light | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
just shines through and all the colour is beautifully picked up. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
And then, what's even more gorgeous about it is that the wings | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and the body are set with diamonds, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
and in the centre here we've got | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
beautiful yellowy-green coloured diamonds. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
Down on the tail we've got delicate sapphires which really help to match | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
the plique a jour enamel and, as you can see here, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
it's trembling away. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
As it would have done, when it was worn. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
Sometimes brooches like this were also worn in the hair on a hair comb. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
-OK. -And unfortunately we haven't got the hair comb in the base of the box, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
but, even so, we do have the original brooch fitting, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
as we have here. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
OK. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Now, it's French, it's made by the designer that we can see here, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Auger in Paris, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
and he, like Lalique, was going to build up a fabulous collection | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
and pieces of Art Nouveau jewellery. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Unfortunately. we don't know a huge amount about Auger, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
but his pieces do appear and are very popular. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
And if I said to you it was worth around about £3,000, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
would you be pleased? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Fabulous, it's beautiful. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
It's gorgeous, isn't it? | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Well, what about if I was to tell you it's going to be worth | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
between £8,000 and £12,000? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
Oh, my goodness! Wow, that's... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
That's astounding! | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
Well, for me, the 1930s are what I like to call the age of elegance. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
It's all about streamlining, new materials | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
and when you look at this, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
I mean, this really is elegant. Something you live with every day? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Yes, it's in our bedroom. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
And where did it come from? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
Well, I found it at Brick Lane, I got up early one morning, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
went down there about six o'clock, and found that one over there | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
on a flatbed lorry and I just thought it was fantastic, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
and then as I was sort of negotiating | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
with the guy about buying it, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
-I saw this as well. -And this is all there was? | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
This was all that there was there, yeah. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Because obviously this is the remnant parts of what was once | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
a much larger bedroom suite. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Fabulous dressing table, brilliant bedside cabinet. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
I can only begin to imagine what the wardrobe must have looked like, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
but I mean it's all about this new materials, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
I mean this is right there in the middle of the late '20s and '30s | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
where they're really experimenting with streamlining. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
The machine age has come to be and everything is becoming so elegant. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
I mean, Deco is inspired by so many other cultures, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
everything from the ancient Egyptians to the Aztecs, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
to actually the mysterious Orient. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
If we look down here, we've got this wonderful symbol | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
here which has echoes of Chinese about it. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
And, actually, if we look at Shanghai in the 1930s, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
they actually called it "the Paris of the Orient". | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
But where does this come from? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
And if I'm being completely honest, I don't know, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
because this kind of furniture was sort of being manufactured all around the world. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
Part of me thinks, is it French, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
has it come out of that French School of furniture making? Is it American? | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Because you think, if you look at this metal | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-and all these forms, and I straightaway think of those chrome American diners. -Yes. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
So I'm slightly at a loss to say where it's from, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
but the one thing that is undeniable | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
is that it's got the most fantastic style. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
It's got all those elements of the new materials, the chrome, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
the black, the mirror, which all pull together to give | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
everything that is the essence of that period. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
It's just knock out, absolutely knock out. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
So, I have to ask the question, what did you pay for it? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I paid, I think it was about 150 quid at the time for it. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
-For all of it? -For all of it. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
-Both pieces, £150? -Yes. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
Wow, great. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:43 | |
Because I think the fact that it has such a strong look, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
and the fact that it is something that would drop into any environment, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
to go and buy this today | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
I think you will see a ten-fold increase. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
I think this is worth the best part of £1,500. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
OK, that's fantastic. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
It's a great, great set and something that I seriously covet! | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Thank you for bringing it along, it's wonderful. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
This is certainly one of the smallest books I've seen today. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
Just pulling it out of its little leather bag which is | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
lovely in its own way, but look at this binding, isn't that gorgeous? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
It is nice, very nice. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
I think that's a 17th-century binding. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
-Oh, right. -This lovely calf skin | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
with this beautiful gold tooling, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
but all the more beautiful because it's in miniature. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
How difficult it would be to create something like that. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Where did you get it from? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
We were in the Lake District for a weekend with my mother, a few years ago, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
and there was a market in Kendal and my mother purchased this. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
How long ago would that have been? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
Well, I think it's probably about 20 years ago now. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Let's open it up and have a look at it. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Well, I have to say, from the title page, I'm not very much the wiser. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
It's just a series of hieroglyphics here. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
-Yes. -I can read the name, Jeremiah Rich, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and it does look like a 17th Century book. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Everything about this title page and portrait | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
-says 17th Century to me. -Yes. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Apart from the Jeremiah Rich, it tells us it was | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
printed in London, even says it was printed for the author and, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
"Are to be sold by Henry Eversden | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
"under the Crown Tavern in West Smithfield." | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Lovely local colour. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Amazing, isn't it? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Flicking through the pages here | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
and really I'm absolutely none the wiser, from the text. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
-Do you have any ideas? -What it might be? -Absolutely. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Well, I assume it's a sort of Bible. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
I think it is a Bible, and I think it's a Bible in shorthand. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
And I think Jeremiah Rich here was one of the people who invented | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
the system of shorthand that we still just about remember today. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:51 | |
And so that's what makes this so interesting. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Oh, right. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
I would date this at about 1650-1660, and when I think of shorthand, | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
I think of sort of early 20th Century and think of people in typing pools | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
and shorthand writers, you know, early 20th Century, but, no, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
-it went right the way back into the 17th century. -Yes, yes. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
-Why a Bible in shorthand? -Yes, why indeed? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
What would be the point of such a thing? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
I think our friend Jeremiah Rich had this printed | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
-as a kind of show-off piece. -Oh. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
I think it's a piece of advertising. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
I think he was telling people he had invented this wonderful new system, everybody should learn it, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
and how amazing, he could get the whole of the Bible into | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
this tiny little volume which fits in the palm of the hand. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
If this came up at auction, it must... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
it would have to make £1,000, maybe £1,500. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
Gosh, good gracious me! Yes, yes. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
Have you ever wondered how our experts can tell the difference | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
between antiques that look pretty identical, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
but are poles apart in terms of value? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
Well, keep watching. This week, Andy McConnell, our glass expert, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
set us a challenge with three decanters, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
one of which is a basic model worth £250, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
one is a better one worth £1,500. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
and then the best one is worth a jaw-dropping £10,000. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
I'm not sure I can tell the difference, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
but before Andy reveals all, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
I'm going to chat to our visitors and see if they can help me. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
-It is really unusual to find one of these. -I've never seen another one. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
Well, you have seen another one - we've got nine here in all! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-So whose were they? -They were my father's and he was born in 1906 | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
so they were his toys and when my brother and I were children, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
we were allowed to play with them. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Really? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
But when I had my three children, I didn't let them play with them. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
That's very sensible of you actually. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
Some would say mean, but I think very sensible. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
So he was born in 1906 | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
and so, if we assume that he was given these when he was five or so, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:14 | |
that's 1911 and they would have been new for him then. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
I would imagine so, yes. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
Was the family well-to-do? What was their...? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
No. Just an ordinary family. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Well, they certainly loved your father dearly because... | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
-Do you know what they bought him? Do you know who made these? -No idea. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
-No idea. -No. -Have you ever thought to look in their ears? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
-No. -You've never looked in their ears? -No. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
So you've never noticed that they've all got a little stud in their ears. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
-Right. -What do you think...? Do you know what the stud means? | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
That it's a Steiff...Sieff bear? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
Steiff, yeah. And so it's German | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
and they first appear in the catalogue in 1897. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
Not this particular set, but as a range. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
And they did skittles of a mixture of animals, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
but they also did, more rarely, this wonderful set with the main bear | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
who is known as King Ping - P-I-N-G. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
So whether that's where the kingpin in tenpin bowling comes from, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
I don't know, but anyway there he is in all his finery with his crown. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
So, your father born in 1906, this is about when he was five, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
so they've only had one careful owner, well, two now with you. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
-Do you have the balls that go with it as well? -No, sadly, I haven't. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
-Did you have them when you were a child? -No. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
I don't think it's going to make a huge difference actually. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
They were really expensive in their day, these sorts of things. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
-And they're still very expensive. -Are they? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
-Somewhere around £8,000 and £10,000. -No. Really? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
-Even without the balls? -Even without the balls. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
I think this is the basic. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
I'm going to say that the... | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Um... | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
This is the better... | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
..and this is the best. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
I'm not sure. Actually I'm going to change my mind, I think. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
-Sure? -Yeah, I think, so, yeah. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
-Sure? -Positive, yeah. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
She really sounds like she knows what she's talking about. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
I don't think I've ever seen a necklace | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
-that was better suited to an owner. Tell me about it, who chose it? -OK. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Right, well, I just have this real passion for period jewellery - | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
sadly for my husband of course - | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
and I saw it in an auction and luckily enough he liked it too | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
and so he bought it for me. I guess he quite liked me at the time so... | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
-Clearly he still does. -Yes. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
But this is absolutely the most marvellous thing for me, personally. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
The maker of it was a speciality of mine throughout my entire career. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
When I first joined the jewellery trade, very little was known about this type of jewellery | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and I had enormous luck finding an archive and being able to write a book | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
about the maker of this necklace who is undoubtedly Carlo Giuliano, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
the Italian working in London | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
from a premises in Piccadilly, 115 Piccadilly. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
He was there from 1874 until 1895 when he died. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
This is the calibre of jewellery that was produced | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
and it's loosely in the Egyptian taste. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
This is a sort of Nefertiti looking necklace, isn't it? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
Decorated with blue enamel, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
absolutely typical of Giuliano's work. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
What do you know about Giuliano? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Well, I just know that... | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
I think he worked with Castellani at the turn of the century | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
and he was Italian and he set up this workshop | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
-and passed it on to his two sons. -Two sons, absolutely right. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
And, um, I just...know that he always, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
well, as far as I understand, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
signed his pieces and this has no signature on it, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
and I'm just wondering why would he not sign some of his pieces? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
Because he perfectly well knew who made them | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
and it might have been a race in the workshop to get this out. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
There was an implied signature, so I don't think we need to worry about it | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
because his signature's all over it. I can recognise the handiwork, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
I can recognise the chain work from which it's suspended. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
There is absolutely not a shadow of doubt that this is by the most famous jeweller... | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Oh, that's really exciting. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
..working in London in the 19th century. The shop was a magnet | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
for the contemporary elite. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
It not only attracted the people that could afford these things, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
which were jolly costly in their own time, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
but they wanted something that had some sort of academic background. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
Giuliano was frequented by Queen Victoria and by most of her family. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
Heinrich Schliemann, who discovered the treasure of Helen of Troy, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
took it to Giuliano's shop to have it assayed and weighed. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Edward Burne Jones went there to have jewellery designed. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
William Holman Hunt, another famous pre-Raphaelite, went there, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
and the reason that they went there is that it echoed | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
what was the sort of primary objective of art in the 19th century, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
which was to look back. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
This is a revivalist jewel, it's drawing on earlier sources. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
And the strongest possible source is ancient Egypt. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
It's nothing about intrinsic value. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
It's made of gold, it's gem set, it's decorated with enamel, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
but these are not why this thing was valuable, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
or indeed why it's valuable today. And it's your taste? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
I just think it's so pretty. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
And every time I wear it, it's a real eye catcher | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
and everybody...you know...sort of... I always get comments on it, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
-so I just love it. -Well, it is perfect for you. Throw the necklace away and keep the girl! | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
OK, oh, well, thank you! | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
Fantastic. But we have to deal with the necklace. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
It's still very enviable and I suppose the job that I can do for you | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
is attribute it in the strongest possible terms to Giuliano, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
which frankly was in question. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
And having done so, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
I think it does add a little bit of value in a strange way, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
and what might have been worth low thousands of pounds, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
suddenly spirals up like a firework | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
for this to fetch £15,000 and possibly even £20,000. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
They have fetched 20 in the past so... | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
-Oh, that's wonderful, gosh! -And it has no intrinsic value, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
it's just simply... | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
It's only gold, its melt value is measured in low hundreds of pounds. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Its artistic value is enormous, and its context is enormous | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
and it's fallen, may I say so, very happily on you. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Well, wonderful, wonderful. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
I've got to pass it on and I've got three granddaughters - what do I do? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
-Big problem, get two more necklaces. -Yes, you're right. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
-Easily done, wonderful. Thanks so much, brilliant. -Thank you. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
We've been setting our visitors, and you at home, a bit of a challenge. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Which of these decanters is the basic decanter worth £250, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
the better one worth about £1,500 | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
and the best worth no less than £10,000? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:24 | |
Andy McConnell, now you set us this challenge, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
almost everybody had a different idea...about which was which. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
-Now what should we be looking for? -In a decanter? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
Well, it depends on whether you're collecting them | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
because they are delicious antiques | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
that you value as a collector, or as a practical object. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
The thing that people are missing out on, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
the reason that decanters are | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
almost universally worthless in this country is we stopped decanting wine. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
We're drinking more wine than we've ever drunk in history | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
but we're drinking it out of a horrid bottle that we plonk on our table. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
We're plonking our plonk on the table and it's horrid! | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I remember my dad used to always insist on decanting his red wine | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
to get rid of the sediment at the bottom | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
but now, as you say, we don't do that any more. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Decanting your wine, you propel a four quid wine into a six quid wine | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
simply by the act of decanting it. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
But I mean, you say... we used to have decanters, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
now they're not worth very much. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
-We know one of these is worth a stonking amount. -Yes. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
So, how can you tell the difference between | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
your cheap common-or-garden decanter | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
-and something that's really significant? -It's not easy. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
There's no pretending the fact, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
as you and your visitors have found, it's not easy to suss it. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
But these are all... These were all made | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
within 30 years of one another, they're all... | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Are they? Because I thought there was a significant difference in age. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
No, they're all 1740 to 1770... | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
There's a 30-year span in here. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
-They're all 250 years old, as it were. -Right. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
So, striations... Look at the age of that. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
I mean, look how wonky donkey, all over the place that is. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
I mean, you might say... | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
it's sort of semi true to say that, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
in this era, they were kind of making glass on bonfires | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
as opposed to glass today that's made in a microwave. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
And if you can imagine cooking on a bonfire to cooking on a microwave, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
then the ease of glass making has changed. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
-The technology allows perfect crystal. -Right. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
So they're grey, they're not very well made and they're rustic, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
but that's their charm. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
But this one looks so different. I mean... | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
I thought this looked more modern because it's just...you know... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
-the kind of thing you see in a shop these days. -1765-1770. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Shows what I know, eh? | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
I'm hugely embarrassed actually | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
because I just thought that must be modern. And then I looked at this | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
and thought this stopper doesn't go with this decanter. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
It's the wrong stopper, look. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
-Just wiggle. -The style is all wrong. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
It's one of the reasons that most decanters are available in charity shops for £2.50 | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
and most of them have a stopper that doesn't fit and a little chip there. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
I put this as the best one because it looked the most basic actually. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
I thought a little bit of kind of counter psychology, it's... | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
It was the most valuable and I thought the stopper was lovely. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
Fiona, Fiona, let me put you out of your misery. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
-You got this one right. -Oh! | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Oh, OK. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
-But you got those two wrong. -Right. So talk me through then. -I will. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Why is this the most basic, is it because the stopper doesn't fit? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
Because the stopper doesn't fit. It's also... This is a pretty good thing. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
I mean £1,500 for a decanter in Britain today. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
I mean, that's very unusual, you're talking cream here. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
It's just that we're talking extra cream with added champagne here. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:57 | |
So why is this one so fabulous? | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
Oh, this is a rare, rare thing - Jacobite. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
It is an absolute blinder. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
There are two others known in Castletown House | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
which is directly related to the Jacobite cause | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
which wanted to put Bonnie Prince Charlie on the throne of Britain, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
supplant the Hanoverians. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
This was used by the Jacobites to toast the health of Bonnie Prince. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
This is a £10,000 decanter. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
It's an absolutely rare, rare thing, it's a historic... | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
It's a museum piece. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
Well, there you are. If you want to raise a glass at home, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
why not pour your wine from a decanter? | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
I hope that you've got some idea now what to look for. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
There are more tips about what makes decanters so special | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
and the differences between them on our website, so have a look. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Cheers. > | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
What are you going to do with Green and Bohea? | 0:38:57 | 0:39:03 | |
Well, hopefully tea would have been kept in them at one point. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:08 | |
I don't know what bohea tea is. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
-Bohea was black fermented tea. -Ah. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
-Which is the tea we drink today really. -Yes. -Um, the point was that | 0:39:15 | 0:39:20 | |
the lady of the household would conduct her tea party | 0:39:20 | 0:39:26 | |
and tea was the first social activity | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
which was controlled by women. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
Up to that point, it was men. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Yes. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
And then in came tea, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
and the lady of the house did the stuff. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
And the impact was extraordinary. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
It altered all the furniture. You had to have special furniture. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
You had light furniture so you could pick it up and move it round. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
All the chairs that were sitting round the outside disappeared | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
and little tables appeared. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
The lady of the house would have these on her sideboard | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
and she would have her tea tray with teapot, milk jug etc. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
She would go to one of these, or possibly both, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
because she would often mix the two to her own specification, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
pour it into a tea canister | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
which would go to the teapot. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
From the tea canister, it would go into the caddy spoon, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-into the teapot. -Very involved! | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
And you were judged really on how well you did it. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
You know...everybody's watching and thinking, "Hmm, not bad." | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Slightly different from just putting a teabag in a mug. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
-It's very sad, the teabag, although of course everybody does it. -Yes. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
Do you know what these are made of? | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-I understand they're actually made of some sort of glass. -They are. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
-They look like porcelain. -Yes, they look like porcelain. -They're glass. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:01 | |
And we can see this very clearly here, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
where the scar, or pontil mark, is. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
That's where they were held on an iron rod | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
while they were being formed. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
They come from south Staffordshire. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
Bilston, somewhere like that, and they're hand painted, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
except for the stoppers. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Ah. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
And that is transfer printed. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Oh, I see. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
And in fact what's odd is that we've got two identical ones, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
which you would not normally expect to find, but anyway we have. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
They date from about 1770. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
-Really? -Yeah. Older than you thought? | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Well, yes, much older than I thought. I had no idea. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
Yeah, and they're quite influenced by Meissen actually. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
These scenes of the birds on here | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
are very Meissen in style. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
I love this white glass. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
I think it gives a brightness to the enamels | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
which you find in no other way. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
On the reverse, we've got a glorious... | 0:42:13 | 0:42:18 | |
Oh, I mean, these are wonderful! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
I want them. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
God, those are good. I mean, they don't get any better than this. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
Fantastic to hear. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
I'm very jealous. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
It would cost you... | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
..£12,000 to £18,000 to replace them. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
No! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
Oh, my goodness. Are you being serious? | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
-I am fairly. Yeah, absolutely. -Good Lord. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
They are top of the range. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Gosh, thank you very much. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
They don't get any better than that. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
My mother, to whom they belong, is going to be very pleased at that. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
Sit her down. Give her a cup of tea before. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
-Thank you very much, thanks. -Thank you very much for bringing them in. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
It's been one of those days on the Roadshow. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
We started in glorious sunshine then the heavens opened, it poured down | 0:43:14 | 0:43:19 | |
so I got my very fetching blue poncho out and umbrella, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
and now, I think... | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
..yeah, it's stopped raining and we've come full circle. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
From Hever Castle and all the Roadshow team, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
until next time, come rain or shine, bye-bye. | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
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