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This week we are at Hever Castle in the beautiful Kent countryside.

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And this is a place of many secrets because it was once home to

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one of the most famous and fascinating women in English history - Anne Boleyn.

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Working on the Roadshow

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brings us to some remarkable historic houses across the country.

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Our team of experts leapt at the chance to visit Hever Castle

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because it's here that you can get closest to Anne Boleyn.

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This is a replica of the clock that Henry VIII gave to

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Anne Boleyn on their wedding day in 1532.

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And it's particularly appropriate that he gave her a timepiece,

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given that he had to wait seven years for Anne,

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and to marry her, he had to split from the Catholic Church

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and so change the course of British history.

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Not long after, their only child, the future Elizabeth I, was born.

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And then, after just 1,000 days as Queen, Anne was executed.

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But even here, where Anne's short and dramatic life began,

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it's sometimes hard to find the real Anne Boleyn.

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We know this was most likely her bedroom,

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but we don't know what she looked like, for example.

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Is this her? Or this? Or this?

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And when was she born?

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When Henry VIII visited her here,

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was she an ingenue of 18, or a sophisticated young woman of 25?

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Thankfully, there are objects here that give us

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that magical direct link to Anne herself.

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This is Anne's prayer book.

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Incredible to think that she actually touched these pages

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with their dense type and beautiful illustrations.

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And she and Henry VIII, when they were courting,

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used to write little notes to each other, in their prayer books.

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And look, here, at the bottom of the page, it says,

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"Remember me when you do pray, that hope doth lead from day to day."

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And there's her signature just at the bottom there.

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"Anne Boleyn".

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And hopefully today's Roadshow will discover more magical objects

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which bring history to our fingertips.

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This looks most intriguing, all I can see is a little hand. Who's is this?

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This is Monty, my dog's rug.

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And where's Monty?

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He's at home.

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-Well, how does he feel about this?

-He's not very happy about it.

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Let's see what it's wrapping up.

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My goodness, that's wonderful, isn't it?

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This is where I get a hernia.

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I wonder who she's by. Is it signed anywhere?

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Yes, just down here, just there, look.

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Oh, yes, there we are. Lefebvre. Hippolyte Jules Lefebvre.

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And how did you come by her?

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She was left to me in a will.

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I used to go and have cups of tea with a little elderly lady

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down the road and she was on her own, so I used to keep her company.

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And when she passed away, she left me in her will.

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How very nice, and was it on this as well?

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-Yes, the whole thing.

-The whole thing?

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Gosh, you must have been a favourite neighbour.

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-I made good tea!

-You made good tea, excellent. Strong or weak?

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Strong.

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-Well, it obviously kept her going for a while.

-Yes, yes!

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-And what do you know about her?

-Not a lot, actually.

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We tried a bit of Googling and we asked some people

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that we know that do auction things,

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but we can't find out a lot about her, which is why I'm here.

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Well, I mean certainly as far as date is concerned,

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she is classically Art Nouveau, really,

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sort of late-ish Art Nouveau

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because we've got electricity coming in,

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-and I think this is certainly pre-First War.

-Right.

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So, sort of circa 1910ish.

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And it's so elegant, isn't it?

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She's very beautiful, yes.

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Yes, yes, do... I mean, I dread to think,

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-particularly with Monty...

-I haven't plugged it in.

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You haven't? Because it does look like Monty may have chewed this.

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No, it wasn't Monty, it came like that, but I haven't plugged it in.

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I have been told it could be rewired, but I didn't want to touch it before I had it valued.

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Well, obviously it loses some originality if you start to take out...

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-But I think you ought to, certainly if you intend to light her up.

-Yes, OK.

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And it wouldn't be impossible to get more glass beads as well.

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That's what I wanted to do, I wanted to sort of renovate her.

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-I think it would be a great thing.

-I think she'd be really beautiful.

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Yes, well, you know, these French bronzes of Art Nouveau style

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are still hugely desirable

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and I would imagine in today's market it would be worth

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-certainly £2,000 and possibly even as much as £3,000.

-Oh, right.

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It's a really beautiful bronze. And I do think that you should have it rewired.

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Renovated. That won't make a difference to the price, will it?

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I don't think so. And you simply can't use it at the moment.

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-I think it would be lovely if it was all up and running again.

-Yeah, OK.

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This is an absolutely stunning spoon. Do you know what it is?

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I know it's a caddy spoon.

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Right. It's not just any caddy spoon,

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-this is one of the best caddy spoons I've ever seen on a Roadshow.

-Gosh.

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Do you know anything about its history?

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Only that my father had had it for a number of years.

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He collected silver and this was one of his favourite pieces.

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I knew it was very nice quality,

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but don't know a lot else about it, really.

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There are three ways in which caddy spoons tend to be made.

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They're either stamped in a die or they're made out of sheet,

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or they're cast, which is the best way, and this is a cast one.

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But just look at the wonderful detail,

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this fabulous swan's neck handle here.

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The quality of this fluting, all this matting has not got

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any signs of wear on it at all, so it's in wonderful condition.

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Even better news is that the collectors market at the moment

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-is really, really hot for great, rare spoons like this.

-Is it?

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And if we have a look in the bowl here, it's got some hallmarks.

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IW. That's for James Wintle, a well known spoon maker.

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And it's got a date letter "N" for 1848,

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so it's an early Victorian cast caddy spoon,

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great rarity and actually quite valuable.

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-Is it really?

-Mm, I'm afraid it is!

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I would comfortably say we're looking at probably £1,500 to £2,000.

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No! Goodness me, I had no idea.

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So, can I ask you,

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are you an old rocker, to posses a portrait of Mick Jagger?

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Well, I am, but I'm afraid I don't possess it.

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-Oh.

-I've brought it today on behalf of my employer.

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Right. Is he a rocker?

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On the contrary!

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He's a very traditional gentleman, he's 89 years old

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and is very interested in the Belle Epoque

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and antiquities of one sort or another.

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But he saw this picture in 1966, fell in love with it, bought it,

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took it home and it's had pride of place on his studio wall ever since.

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Well, what a great story, and what a great eye he had,

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considering he wasn't perhaps into contemporary music of the time.

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-Absolutely not.

-And it was bought in the Lefebvre Gallery in 1966,

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which was a superb gallery, selling all the great sort of art,

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and this is by Cecil Beaton.

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-Correct.

-Now, we know Cecil Beaton as a photographer

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and as a stage designer.

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And a producer of great plays like Gigi, My Fair Lady,

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so it's very surprising to know that

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-he is a seriously good painter as well.

-Absolutely.

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And I believe that Cecil Beaton was always very interested in meeting

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Mick Jagger and first met him in the '60s, and according to biography,

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I think by Hugo Vickers, who wrote the biography on Cecil Beaton,

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they met in the '60s and he loved his face, and he loved, he liked

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those cheeks and that incredible look that Mick Jagger has.

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I think he's captured it very well, of course.

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The style is very good because it's quite sort of Pop Art,

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quite Andy Warhol.

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-Yes, yes.

-Do you see that?

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And I like the way he's brought it very close.

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It's like a photographer here. He's come

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very close into the portrait and it is like a photograph

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but done in this amazing style,

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and what a great painter he is.

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Perfect.

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So what did it cost in 1966?

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I believe it was in the hundreds, so I understand.

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-The hundreds, quite a lot of money.

-Quite a lot of money in those days.

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Yeah, so I think I would insure it for £30,000.

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Wow! Wow, wow!

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That is a significant sum.

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It is, it's a good sum and I think it's worth every penny.

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Thank you, I'm sure my... my chief will be very interested to hear that comment

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when he gets back from holiday.

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He'd better go again on holiday with the proceeds!

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-A good day's work.

-Good, thanks for bringing it.

-Thanks very much, Mark.

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What do you think of these? Are they nice, or not?

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-Be honest with me, are they fetching?

-Well, it's not doing a lot for me.

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-No.

-It's the latest Roadshow attire for a rainy day.

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But we're enjoying ourselves nonetheless, aren't we, Geoffrey?

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We are, absolutely. A stiff upper lip and we're in Henry VIII's little palace,

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-and what more could you ask, even in the wet weather?

-You see, it's all going to be fine.

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Well, wacky is the word that's usually stuck on me

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on this show, but, boy, does this take the biscuit.

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This is a really funny thing, I just love it, it's just amazing,

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tell us the story.

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Well, sadly it's not mine,

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it belongs to an aunt and she bought it from auction

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in a box of...£5.

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But it was apparently buried in the sand at Herne Bay.

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And that's all we know about it.

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We wondered where the Loch Ness Monster had gone!

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It ended up in the sand at Herne Bay.

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I actually really love it,

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I mean it's a real shame its wings have gone.

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And it's an incomplete object, and so...you know.

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A bit of wacky, I just love it, but it's probably worth about four quid.

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On the other hand, you also brought that in.

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-I did indeed.

-And what's the story of that?

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This again, Auntie's.

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She bought it from a sort of bric-a-brac type store for a pound,

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a couple of years ago.

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-Did you know it was made of glass?

-No.

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Well, it is, and it dates from about 1760

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and is a really lovely academic antique.

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The story about it is that the 1745 excise tax was imposed on the

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production of glassware to finance the army to fight back the Scots.

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The Scots were invading England, they got to Derby,

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and to finance the war against the Scots, they brought in a glass tax,

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in 1745, and through a loophole in this law, white glass

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was exempt from the tax,

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just at a time when English porcelain was coming in.

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You've got Bow, Plymouth, Bristol porcelain coming in,

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it's not very good but it's extremely expensive.

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On the other hand, you could make white glass fairly cheaply,

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So this is an imitation of English china, but it's made of glass.

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1777, they realised the mistake, brought in a tax

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but by then it was gone, so this dates between 1745 and 1777

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and it probably dates to about 1755-60.

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It's made in South Staffordshire, it's just a really beautiful

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little gem that's 250 years old.

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Wow.

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And is worth £600 to £800.

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No way! Well done, Auntie, wow.

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When I first saw this table, from quite a distance, I thought,

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"Well, there's another Regency table." Well, how wrong I was,

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because when I got up close to it,

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I thought, "This is quite extraordinary."

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It looks like a table that should be much bigger

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because it's got quite a monumental character to it.

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I think I know why it was this size,

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and that is to take this piece of rectangular green porphyry,

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extremely valuable, and only found in the Laconia region of Greece.

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So I think

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this table was made to fit the marble.

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And the table itself, the frame, is in a sense, to me,

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equal in value to the porphyry on the top.

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Can you tell me anything,

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can you fill in the background of this table a little bit?

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A person called Mary Elgin,

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who was married to the Seventh Earl of Elgin,

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and he was an ambassador to Constantinople

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in the late 18th Century, early 19th.

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And they came back to the UK, in about 1802, I think.

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So are we talking about the Elgin who was responsible for

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-bringing the Elgin Marbles back?

-That's right.

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-Ah.

-That's right.

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But she brought back this sheet of porphyry

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which I thought came from upper Egypt, but you say Greece.

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OK, you're the expert.

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And, apparently, it was considered to be very valuable at the time,

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more so than any other stone anywhere,

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and so that's the way things happened in those days.

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Well, that is extremely interesting, because you mentioned the date 1802.

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-Yes.

-Well, in 1804 in London,

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there was the opening to a very select public

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of a house which became very famous.

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It was the house that was remodelled by Thomas Hope,

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who was the most important arbiter of taste of the early 19th Century

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and from which much Regency design was to spring.

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And Hope had done an enormous Grand Tour, he was hugely wealthy,

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and his house had a series of rooms, all of which had a different theme.

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It had an Egyptian theme, a Greek theme, Indian theme,

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because he'd been to all these places.

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And from Thomas Hope

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allowing the sort of gentry and the aristocracy to go round his home,

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lots of other people picked up the styles that he was promoting,

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and this table speaks to me of the style generated by Thomas Hope.

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There's very strong Classical influences in it.

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The feet have this wonderful...

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beautiful quality feet, I should say,

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which are carved wood with a claw foot,

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and then these anthemia, half anthemia scrolls.

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And then a plinth base which makes it very solid,

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coming up into acanthus leaves,

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and it has a solidity which, I think is very sort of Classical,

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monumentality which is very Classical.

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But Thomas Hope also used something which was really relatively new

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in English furniture at that time,

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which was the introduction of stamped brass inlay.

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And you have a lot of that on this little table in different patterns.

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You have it along the top, around the porphyry,

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you have it on the frieze in a different pattern.

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And once more on the base, in this delightful little lacy pattern.

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And this was a new technology, being able to stamp brass.

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It's often associated with a maker called George Bullock.

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But there was also a maker who supplied the rich and the famous,

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many aristocratic patrons at the time,

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called George Oakley

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and he is known to have supplied many people like Lord Harwood,

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the Earl of Harwood.

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and this table speaks to me of that sort of quality.

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It's a very, very top quality table, it's extremely exciting.

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Good.

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Now, you've had it in the family a long time, have you had it valued?

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No.

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I think you would be...

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I don't think I'm being over optimistic to say £20,000.

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Really? Yeah, well, it's not going to be sold.

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I'm very glad to hear it, and when I say £20,000,

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that's not insurance value, that's a sale value.

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A sale value, right.

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I have to... I'm not known for giving high valuations.

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This, I think, is the highest valuation I've ever given on the Roadshow and I think

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it's the best piece of furniture I've ever seen on the Roadshow and I'm absolutely thrilled.

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Well, thank you very much. I'm overwhelmed.

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Marvellous.

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This was given to me by my grandmother and she told me

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it was her grandmother's, so that's all I know.

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That's all you know. You didn't ask her any more questions?

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She went through it, she showed me all of her jewellery

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and explained each one, but I'm afraid I can't remember

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about this particular item so I've forgotten anything else she may have told me about it,

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unfortunately, and too late to go back and ask her now.

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Yeah, we always wish that we'd asked more, don't we, at the time.

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-Yes.

-Definitely.

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Well, it is an absolutely gorgeous brooch and on

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a rainy and sunny day like we've had today,

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to see this dragonfly brooch,

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it would have been lovely to have actually seen some dragonflies

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in the garden, but at least we've got this one.

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It dates from around about 1890-1900,

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and it's a perfect example of jewellery

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-known as the Art Nouveau period.

-OK.

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And the Art Nouveau period was all about natural things,

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female beauty, and also the wonderful effects that you get

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when you have a brooch like this, that if you touch it, it moves.

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-Yes.

-And this is what we call "en tremblant",

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so it's a lovely movement to the actual piece of jewellery.

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It's made with plique a jour enamel

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and if it's held up to the sunlight, then the sun shines through

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and it's rather like stained glass window, and the light

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just shines through and all the colour is beautifully picked up.

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And then, what's even more gorgeous about it is that the wings

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and the body are set with diamonds,

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and in the centre here we've got

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beautiful yellowy-green coloured diamonds.

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Down on the tail we've got delicate sapphires which really help to match

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the plique a jour enamel and, as you can see here,

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it's trembling away.

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As it would have done, when it was worn.

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Sometimes brooches like this were also worn in the hair on a hair comb.

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-OK.

-And unfortunately we haven't got the hair comb in the base of the box,

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but, even so, we do have the original brooch fitting,

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as we have here.

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OK.

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Now, it's French, it's made by the designer that we can see here,

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Auger in Paris,

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and he, like Lalique, was going to build up a fabulous collection

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and pieces of Art Nouveau jewellery.

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Unfortunately. we don't know a huge amount about Auger,

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but his pieces do appear and are very popular.

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And if I said to you it was worth around about £3,000,

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would you be pleased?

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Fabulous, it's beautiful.

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It's gorgeous, isn't it?

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Well, what about if I was to tell you it's going to be worth

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between £8,000 and £12,000?

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Oh, my goodness! Wow, that's...

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That's astounding!

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Well, for me, the 1930s are what I like to call the age of elegance.

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It's all about streamlining, new materials

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and when you look at this,

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I mean, this really is elegant. Something you live with every day?

0:20:340:20:38

Yes, it's in our bedroom.

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And where did it come from?

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Well, I found it at Brick Lane, I got up early one morning,

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went down there about six o'clock, and found that one over there

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on a flatbed lorry and I just thought it was fantastic,

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and then as I was sort of negotiating

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with the guy about buying it,

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-I saw this as well.

-And this is all there was?

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This was all that there was there, yeah.

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Because obviously this is the remnant parts of what was once

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a much larger bedroom suite.

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Fabulous dressing table, brilliant bedside cabinet.

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I can only begin to imagine what the wardrobe must have looked like,

0:21:100:21:14

but I mean it's all about this new materials,

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I mean this is right there in the middle of the late '20s and '30s

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where they're really experimenting with streamlining.

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The machine age has come to be and everything is becoming so elegant.

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I mean, Deco is inspired by so many other cultures,

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everything from the ancient Egyptians to the Aztecs,

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to actually the mysterious Orient.

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If we look down here, we've got this wonderful symbol

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here which has echoes of Chinese about it.

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And, actually, if we look at Shanghai in the 1930s,

0:21:430:21:46

they actually called it "the Paris of the Orient".

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But where does this come from?

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And if I'm being completely honest, I don't know,

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because this kind of furniture was sort of being manufactured all around the world.

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Part of me thinks, is it French,

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has it come out of that French School of furniture making? Is it American?

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Because you think, if you look at this metal

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-and all these forms, and I straightaway think of those chrome American diners.

-Yes.

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So I'm slightly at a loss to say where it's from,

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but the one thing that is undeniable

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is that it's got the most fantastic style.

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It's got all those elements of the new materials, the chrome,

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the black, the mirror, which all pull together to give

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everything that is the essence of that period.

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It's just knock out, absolutely knock out.

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So, I have to ask the question, what did you pay for it?

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I paid, I think it was about 150 quid at the time for it.

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-For all of it?

-For all of it.

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-Both pieces, £150?

-Yes.

0:22:400:22:42

Wow, great.

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Because I think the fact that it has such a strong look,

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and the fact that it is something that would drop into any environment,

0:22:470:22:51

to go and buy this today

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I think you will see a ten-fold increase.

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I think this is worth the best part of £1,500.

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OK, that's fantastic.

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It's a great, great set and something that I seriously covet!

0:23:010:23:04

Thank you very much.

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Thank you for bringing it along, it's wonderful.

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This is certainly one of the smallest books I've seen today.

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Just pulling it out of its little leather bag which is

0:23:150:23:18

lovely in its own way, but look at this binding, isn't that gorgeous?

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It is nice, very nice.

0:23:220:23:23

I think that's a 17th-century binding.

0:23:230:23:25

-Oh, right.

-This lovely calf skin

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with this beautiful gold tooling,

0:23:280:23:30

but all the more beautiful because it's in miniature.

0:23:300:23:34

How difficult it would be to create something like that.

0:23:340:23:37

Where did you get it from?

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We were in the Lake District for a weekend with my mother, a few years ago,

0:23:380:23:43

and there was a market in Kendal and my mother purchased this.

0:23:430:23:48

How long ago would that have been?

0:23:480:23:50

Well, I think it's probably about 20 years ago now.

0:23:500:23:53

Let's open it up and have a look at it.

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Well, I have to say, from the title page, I'm not very much the wiser.

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It's just a series of hieroglyphics here.

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-Yes.

-I can read the name, Jeremiah Rich,

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and it does look like a 17th Century book.

0:24:060:24:08

Everything about this title page and portrait

0:24:080:24:10

-says 17th Century to me.

-Yes.

0:24:100:24:13

Apart from the Jeremiah Rich, it tells us it was

0:24:130:24:16

printed in London, even says it was printed for the author and,

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"Are to be sold by Henry Eversden

0:24:190:24:21

"under the Crown Tavern in West Smithfield."

0:24:210:24:23

Lovely local colour.

0:24:230:24:25

Amazing, isn't it?

0:24:250:24:27

Flicking through the pages here

0:24:270:24:29

and really I'm absolutely none the wiser, from the text.

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-Do you have any ideas?

-What it might be?

-Absolutely.

0:24:320:24:35

Well, I assume it's a sort of Bible.

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I think it is a Bible, and I think it's a Bible in shorthand.

0:24:370:24:42

And I think Jeremiah Rich here was one of the people who invented

0:24:420:24:46

the system of shorthand that we still just about remember today.

0:24:460:24:51

And so that's what makes this so interesting.

0:24:510:24:54

Oh, right.

0:24:540:24:55

I would date this at about 1650-1660, and when I think of shorthand,

0:24:550:25:01

I think of sort of early 20th Century and think of people in typing pools

0:25:010:25:05

and shorthand writers, you know, early 20th Century, but, no,

0:25:050:25:09

-it went right the way back into the 17th century.

-Yes, yes.

0:25:090:25:12

-Why a Bible in shorthand?

-Yes, why indeed?

0:25:120:25:15

What would be the point of such a thing?

0:25:150:25:17

I think our friend Jeremiah Rich had this printed

0:25:170:25:21

-as a kind of show-off piece.

-Oh.

0:25:210:25:23

I think it's a piece of advertising.

0:25:230:25:25

I think he was telling people he had invented this wonderful new system, everybody should learn it,

0:25:250:25:30

and how amazing, he could get the whole of the Bible into

0:25:300:25:32

this tiny little volume which fits in the palm of the hand.

0:25:320:25:35

If this came up at auction, it must...

0:25:350:25:38

it would have to make £1,000, maybe £1,500.

0:25:380:25:42

Gosh, good gracious me! Yes, yes.

0:25:420:25:46

Have you ever wondered how our experts can tell the difference

0:25:550:25:58

between antiques that look pretty identical,

0:25:580:26:00

but are poles apart in terms of value?

0:26:000:26:04

Well, keep watching. This week, Andy McConnell, our glass expert,

0:26:040:26:08

set us a challenge with three decanters,

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one of which is a basic model worth £250,

0:26:100:26:12

one is a better one worth £1,500.

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and then the best one is worth a jaw-dropping £10,000.

0:26:160:26:21

I'm not sure I can tell the difference,

0:26:230:26:25

but before Andy reveals all,

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I'm going to chat to our visitors and see if they can help me.

0:26:260:26:30

-It is really unusual to find one of these.

-I've never seen another one.

0:26:340:26:38

Well, you have seen another one - we've got nine here in all!

0:26:380:26:42

-So whose were they?

-They were my father's and he was born in 1906

0:26:420:26:47

so they were his toys and when my brother and I were children,

0:26:470:26:51

we were allowed to play with them.

0:26:510:26:55

Really?

0:26:550:26:57

But when I had my three children, I didn't let them play with them.

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That's very sensible of you actually.

0:27:020:27:04

Some would say mean, but I think very sensible.

0:27:040:27:07

So he was born in 1906

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and so, if we assume that he was given these when he was five or so,

0:27:080:27:14

that's 1911 and they would have been new for him then.

0:27:140:27:18

I would imagine so, yes.

0:27:180:27:20

Was the family well-to-do? What was their...?

0:27:200:27:22

No. Just an ordinary family.

0:27:220:27:25

Well, they certainly loved your father dearly because...

0:27:250:27:28

-Do you know what they bought him? Do you know who made these?

-No idea.

0:27:280:27:32

-No idea.

-No.

-Have you ever thought to look in their ears?

0:27:320:27:35

-No.

-You've never looked in their ears?

-No.

0:27:350:27:39

So you've never noticed that they've all got a little stud in their ears.

0:27:390:27:41

-Right.

-What do you think...? Do you know what the stud means?

0:27:410:27:45

That it's a Steiff...Sieff bear?

0:27:450:27:49

Steiff, yeah. And so it's German

0:27:490:27:52

and they first appear in the catalogue in 1897.

0:27:520:27:58

Not this particular set, but as a range.

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And they did skittles of a mixture of animals,

0:28:020:28:06

but they also did, more rarely, this wonderful set with the main bear

0:28:060:28:11

who is known as King Ping - P-I-N-G.

0:28:110:28:14

So whether that's where the kingpin in tenpin bowling comes from,

0:28:140:28:19

I don't know, but anyway there he is in all his finery with his crown.

0:28:190:28:24

So, your father born in 1906, this is about when he was five,

0:28:240:28:29

so they've only had one careful owner, well, two now with you.

0:28:290:28:34

-Do you have the balls that go with it as well?

-No, sadly, I haven't.

0:28:340:28:37

-Did you have them when you were a child?

-No.

0:28:370:28:40

I don't think it's going to make a huge difference actually.

0:28:400:28:44

They were really expensive in their day, these sorts of things.

0:28:440:28:49

-And they're still very expensive.

-Are they?

0:28:490:28:53

-Somewhere around £8,000 and £10,000.

-No. Really?

0:28:530:28:58

-Even without the balls?

-Even without the balls.

0:28:580:29:01

I think this is the basic.

0:29:050:29:07

I'm going to say that the...

0:29:070:29:10

Um...

0:29:100:29:11

This is the better...

0:29:130:29:15

..and this is the best.

0:29:190:29:21

I'm not sure. Actually I'm going to change my mind, I think.

0:29:210:29:24

-Sure?

-Yeah, I think, so, yeah.

0:29:240:29:27

-Sure?

-Positive, yeah.

0:29:270:29:29

She really sounds like she knows what she's talking about.

0:29:290:29:33

I don't think I've ever seen a necklace

0:29:360:29:39

-that was better suited to an owner. Tell me about it, who chose it?

-OK.

0:29:390:29:42

Right, well, I just have this real passion for period jewellery -

0:29:420:29:47

sadly for my husband of course -

0:29:470:29:49

and I saw it in an auction and luckily enough he liked it too

0:29:490:29:54

and so he bought it for me. I guess he quite liked me at the time so...

0:29:540:29:58

-Clearly he still does.

-Yes.

0:29:580:30:00

But this is absolutely the most marvellous thing for me, personally.

0:30:000:30:05

The maker of it was a speciality of mine throughout my entire career.

0:30:050:30:09

When I first joined the jewellery trade, very little was known about this type of jewellery

0:30:090:30:13

and I had enormous luck finding an archive and being able to write a book

0:30:130:30:18

about the maker of this necklace who is undoubtedly Carlo Giuliano,

0:30:180:30:23

the Italian working in London

0:30:230:30:24

from a premises in Piccadilly, 115 Piccadilly.

0:30:240:30:28

He was there from 1874 until 1895 when he died.

0:30:280:30:32

This is the calibre of jewellery that was produced

0:30:320:30:35

and it's loosely in the Egyptian taste.

0:30:350:30:37

This is a sort of Nefertiti looking necklace, isn't it?

0:30:370:30:41

Decorated with blue enamel,

0:30:410:30:44

absolutely typical of Giuliano's work.

0:30:440:30:46

What do you know about Giuliano?

0:30:460:30:48

Well, I just know that...

0:30:480:30:50

I think he worked with Castellani at the turn of the century

0:30:500:30:52

and he was Italian and he set up this workshop

0:30:520:30:57

-and passed it on to his two sons.

-Two sons, absolutely right.

0:30:570:31:00

And, um, I just...know that he always,

0:31:000:31:03

well, as far as I understand,

0:31:030:31:05

signed his pieces and this has no signature on it,

0:31:050:31:09

and I'm just wondering why would he not sign some of his pieces?

0:31:090:31:13

Because he perfectly well knew who made them

0:31:130:31:16

and it might have been a race in the workshop to get this out.

0:31:160:31:19

There was an implied signature, so I don't think we need to worry about it

0:31:190:31:23

because his signature's all over it. I can recognise the handiwork,

0:31:230:31:27

I can recognise the chain work from which it's suspended.

0:31:270:31:30

There is absolutely not a shadow of doubt that this is by the most famous jeweller...

0:31:300:31:34

Oh, that's really exciting.

0:31:340:31:36

..working in London in the 19th century. The shop was a magnet

0:31:360:31:40

for the contemporary elite.

0:31:400:31:43

It not only attracted the people that could afford these things,

0:31:430:31:46

which were jolly costly in their own time,

0:31:460:31:48

but they wanted something that had some sort of academic background.

0:31:480:31:53

Giuliano was frequented by Queen Victoria and by most of her family.

0:31:530:31:58

Heinrich Schliemann, who discovered the treasure of Helen of Troy,

0:31:580:32:02

took it to Giuliano's shop to have it assayed and weighed.

0:32:020:32:05

Edward Burne Jones went there to have jewellery designed.

0:32:050:32:08

William Holman Hunt, another famous pre-Raphaelite, went there,

0:32:080:32:12

and the reason that they went there is that it echoed

0:32:120:32:15

what was the sort of primary objective of art in the 19th century,

0:32:150:32:20

which was to look back.

0:32:200:32:22

This is a revivalist jewel, it's drawing on earlier sources.

0:32:220:32:26

And the strongest possible source is ancient Egypt.

0:32:260:32:29

It's nothing about intrinsic value.

0:32:300:32:33

It's made of gold, it's gem set, it's decorated with enamel,

0:32:330:32:36

but these are not why this thing was valuable,

0:32:360:32:39

or indeed why it's valuable today. And it's your taste?

0:32:390:32:42

I just think it's so pretty.

0:32:420:32:44

And every time I wear it, it's a real eye catcher

0:32:440:32:47

and everybody...you know...sort of... I always get comments on it,

0:32:470:32:50

-so I just love it.

-Well, it is perfect for you. Throw the necklace away and keep the girl!

0:32:500:32:55

OK, oh, well, thank you!

0:32:550:32:57

Fantastic. But we have to deal with the necklace.

0:32:570:33:00

It's still very enviable and I suppose the job that I can do for you

0:33:000:33:03

is attribute it in the strongest possible terms to Giuliano,

0:33:030:33:07

which frankly was in question.

0:33:070:33:10

And having done so,

0:33:100:33:11

I think it does add a little bit of value in a strange way,

0:33:110:33:14

and what might have been worth low thousands of pounds,

0:33:140:33:18

suddenly spirals up like a firework

0:33:180:33:21

and it isn't beyond the realms of possibility

0:33:210:33:24

for this to fetch £15,000 and possibly even £20,000.

0:33:240:33:28

They have fetched 20 in the past so...

0:33:280:33:31

-Oh, that's wonderful, gosh!

-And it has no intrinsic value,

0:33:310:33:34

it's just simply...

0:33:340:33:37

It's only gold, its melt value is measured in low hundreds of pounds.

0:33:370:33:40

Its artistic value is enormous, and its context is enormous

0:33:400:33:43

and it's fallen, may I say so, very happily on you.

0:33:430:33:46

Well, wonderful, wonderful.

0:33:460:33:47

I've got to pass it on and I've got three granddaughters - what do I do?

0:33:470:33:51

-Big problem, get two more necklaces.

-Yes, you're right.

0:33:510:33:56

-Easily done, wonderful. Thanks so much, brilliant.

-Thank you.

0:33:560:34:00

We've been setting our visitors, and you at home, a bit of a challenge.

0:34:090:34:12

Which of these decanters is the basic decanter worth £250,

0:34:120:34:16

the better one worth about £1,500

0:34:160:34:19

and the best worth no less than £10,000?

0:34:190:34:24

Andy McConnell, now you set us this challenge,

0:34:240:34:28

almost everybody had a different idea...about which was which.

0:34:280:34:31

-Now what should we be looking for?

-In a decanter?

0:34:310:34:36

Well, it depends on whether you're collecting them

0:34:360:34:39

because they are delicious antiques

0:34:390:34:41

that you value as a collector, or as a practical object.

0:34:410:34:45

The thing that people are missing out on,

0:34:450:34:48

the reason that decanters are

0:34:480:34:50

almost universally worthless in this country is we stopped decanting wine.

0:34:500:34:54

We're drinking more wine than we've ever drunk in history

0:34:540:34:58

but we're drinking it out of a horrid bottle that we plonk on our table.

0:34:580:35:01

We're plonking our plonk on the table and it's horrid!

0:35:010:35:04

I remember my dad used to always insist on decanting his red wine

0:35:040:35:08

to get rid of the sediment at the bottom

0:35:080:35:11

but now, as you say, we don't do that any more.

0:35:110:35:13

Decanting your wine, you propel a four quid wine into a six quid wine

0:35:130:35:18

simply by the act of decanting it.

0:35:180:35:20

But I mean, you say... we used to have decanters,

0:35:200:35:23

now they're not worth very much.

0:35:230:35:25

-We know one of these is worth a stonking amount.

-Yes.

0:35:250:35:28

So, how can you tell the difference between

0:35:280:35:31

your cheap common-or-garden decanter

0:35:310:35:33

-and something that's really significant?

-It's not easy.

0:35:330:35:36

There's no pretending the fact,

0:35:360:35:38

as you and your visitors have found, it's not easy to suss it.

0:35:380:35:42

But these are all... These were all made

0:35:420:35:45

within 30 years of one another, they're all...

0:35:450:35:48

Are they? Because I thought there was a significant difference in age.

0:35:480:35:53

No, they're all 1740 to 1770...

0:35:530:35:57

There's a 30-year span in here.

0:35:570:35:59

-They're all 250 years old, as it were.

-Right.

0:35:590:36:03

So, striations... Look at the age of that.

0:36:030:36:05

I mean, look how wonky donkey, all over the place that is.

0:36:050:36:08

I mean, you might say...

0:36:090:36:11

it's sort of semi true to say that,

0:36:110:36:14

in this era, they were kind of making glass on bonfires

0:36:140:36:18

as opposed to glass today that's made in a microwave.

0:36:180:36:21

And if you can imagine cooking on a bonfire to cooking on a microwave,

0:36:210:36:26

then the ease of glass making has changed.

0:36:260:36:29

-The technology allows perfect crystal.

-Right.

0:36:290:36:33

So they're grey, they're not very well made and they're rustic,

0:36:330:36:38

but that's their charm.

0:36:380:36:40

But this one looks so different. I mean...

0:36:400:36:44

I thought this looked more modern because it's just...you know...

0:36:440:36:48

-the kind of thing you see in a shop these days.

-1765-1770.

0:36:480:36:51

Shows what I know, eh?

0:36:510:36:54

I'm hugely embarrassed actually

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because I just thought that must be modern. And then I looked at this

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and thought this stopper doesn't go with this decanter.

0:36:590:37:02

It's the wrong stopper, look.

0:37:020:37:04

-Just wiggle.

-The style is all wrong.

0:37:040:37:07

It's one of the reasons that most decanters are available in charity shops for £2.50

0:37:070:37:11

and most of them have a stopper that doesn't fit and a little chip there.

0:37:110:37:15

I put this as the best one because it looked the most basic actually.

0:37:150:37:20

I thought a little bit of kind of counter psychology, it's...

0:37:200:37:24

It was the most valuable and I thought the stopper was lovely.

0:37:240:37:28

Fiona, Fiona, let me put you out of your misery.

0:37:280:37:30

-You got this one right.

-Oh!

0:37:310:37:33

Oh, OK.

0:37:330:37:35

-But you got those two wrong.

-Right. So talk me through then.

-I will.

0:37:350:37:38

Why is this the most basic, is it because the stopper doesn't fit?

0:37:380:37:42

Because the stopper doesn't fit. It's also... This is a pretty good thing.

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I mean £1,500 for a decanter in Britain today.

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I mean, that's very unusual, you're talking cream here.

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It's just that we're talking extra cream with added champagne here.

0:37:520:37:57

So why is this one so fabulous?

0:37:570:37:59

Oh, this is a rare, rare thing - Jacobite.

0:37:590:38:03

It is an absolute blinder.

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There are two others known in Castletown House

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which is directly related to the Jacobite cause

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which wanted to put Bonnie Prince Charlie on the throne of Britain,

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supplant the Hanoverians.

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This was used by the Jacobites to toast the health of Bonnie Prince.

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This is a £10,000 decanter.

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It's an absolutely rare, rare thing, it's a historic...

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It's a museum piece.

0:38:280:38:30

Well, there you are. If you want to raise a glass at home,

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why not pour your wine from a decanter?

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I hope that you've got some idea now what to look for.

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There are more tips about what makes decanters so special

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and the differences between them on our website, so have a look.

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Cheers. >

0:38:480:38:49

What are you going to do with Green and Bohea?

0:38:570:39:03

Well, hopefully tea would have been kept in them at one point.

0:39:030:39:08

I don't know what bohea tea is.

0:39:090:39:13

-Bohea was black fermented tea.

-Ah.

0:39:130:39:15

-Which is the tea we drink today really.

-Yes.

-Um, the point was that

0:39:150:39:20

the lady of the household would conduct her tea party

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and tea was the first social activity

0:39:260:39:31

which was controlled by women.

0:39:310:39:35

Up to that point, it was men.

0:39:350:39:38

Yes.

0:39:380:39:39

And then in came tea,

0:39:390:39:42

and the lady of the house did the stuff.

0:39:420:39:46

And the impact was extraordinary.

0:39:460:39:48

It altered all the furniture. You had to have special furniture.

0:39:480:39:51

You had light furniture so you could pick it up and move it round.

0:39:510:39:56

All the chairs that were sitting round the outside disappeared

0:39:560:39:59

and little tables appeared.

0:39:590:40:01

The lady of the house would have these on her sideboard

0:40:010:40:06

and she would have her tea tray with teapot, milk jug etc.

0:40:060:40:11

She would go to one of these, or possibly both,

0:40:130:40:18

because she would often mix the two to her own specification,

0:40:180:40:23

pour it into a tea canister

0:40:230:40:26

which would go to the teapot.

0:40:260:40:28

From the tea canister, it would go into the caddy spoon,

0:40:280:40:32

-into the teapot.

-Very involved!

0:40:320:40:34

And you were judged really on how well you did it.

0:40:340:40:38

You know...everybody's watching and thinking, "Hmm, not bad."

0:40:380:40:42

Slightly different from just putting a teabag in a mug.

0:40:420:40:46

-It's very sad, the teabag, although of course everybody does it.

-Yes.

0:40:460:40:50

Do you know what these are made of?

0:40:500:40:53

-I understand they're actually made of some sort of glass.

-They are.

0:40:530:40:56

-They look like porcelain.

-Yes, they look like porcelain.

-They're glass.

0:40:560:41:01

And we can see this very clearly here,

0:41:010:41:05

where the scar, or pontil mark, is.

0:41:050:41:09

That's where they were held on an iron rod

0:41:090:41:11

while they were being formed.

0:41:110:41:13

They come from south Staffordshire.

0:41:150:41:18

Yeah.

0:41:180:41:19

Bilston, somewhere like that, and they're hand painted,

0:41:190:41:24

except for the stoppers.

0:41:240:41:26

Ah.

0:41:260:41:29

And that is transfer printed.

0:41:290:41:31

Oh, I see.

0:41:310:41:33

And in fact what's odd is that we've got two identical ones,

0:41:330:41:37

which you would not normally expect to find, but anyway we have.

0:41:370:41:42

They date from about 1770.

0:41:420:41:47

-Really?

-Yeah. Older than you thought?

0:41:470:41:50

Well, yes, much older than I thought. I had no idea.

0:41:500:41:53

Yeah, and they're quite influenced by Meissen actually.

0:41:530:41:56

These scenes of the birds on here

0:41:560:41:58

are very Meissen in style.

0:41:580:42:01

I love this white glass.

0:42:010:42:04

I think it gives a brightness to the enamels

0:42:040:42:08

which you find in no other way.

0:42:080:42:13

On the reverse, we've got a glorious...

0:42:130:42:18

Oh, I mean, these are wonderful!

0:42:180:42:21

I want them.

0:42:210:42:23

God, those are good. I mean, they don't get any better than this.

0:42:240:42:28

Fantastic to hear.

0:42:280:42:30

I'm very jealous.

0:42:310:42:33

It would cost you...

0:42:340:42:36

..£12,000 to £18,000 to replace them.

0:42:390:42:42

No!

0:42:420:42:44

Oh, my goodness. Are you being serious?

0:42:440:42:48

-I am fairly. Yeah, absolutely.

-Good Lord.

0:42:480:42:51

They are top of the range.

0:42:510:42:53

Gosh, thank you very much.

0:42:530:42:54

They don't get any better than that.

0:42:540:42:57

My mother, to whom they belong, is going to be very pleased at that.

0:42:580:43:02

Sit her down. Give her a cup of tea before.

0:43:020:43:06

-Thank you very much, thanks.

-Thank you very much for bringing them in.

0:43:060:43:09

It's been one of those days on the Roadshow.

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We started in glorious sunshine then the heavens opened, it poured down

0:43:140:43:19

so I got my very fetching blue poncho out and umbrella,

0:43:190:43:22

and now, I think...

0:43:220:43:24

..yeah, it's stopped raining and we've come full circle.

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From Hever Castle and all the Roadshow team,

0:43:300:43:32

until next time, come rain or shine, bye-bye.

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