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We've reached the most northerly point on our journey with the Roadshow, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
and our venue today even has its own railway station. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And what a spot for it! | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
from Perthshire in the Scottish Highlands. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
In 1844, the Duke of Atholl objected | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
to a proposal for a railway to run through his land, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
the Blair Atholl Estate, near Pitlochry. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
These paintings were done to convince the Duke | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
how trains would enhance the look of the landscape. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
It took until 1863 for the line to finally arrive. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
On the eve of the opening, the Duke | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
took a trip around his estate, enjoying the novel experience | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
of travelling more than 50mph! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
A stone's throw away from the station is our venue. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Known as the gateway to the Highlands of Scotland, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Blair Castle sits in the centre of an estate | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
which covers a staggering 145,000 acres. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
Thank goodness the Duke of Atholl changed his mind | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
and allowed the railway to be built through his land, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
because the train brought one of our experts to Blair Castle | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
only this morning. You came on the sleeper. I had a wonderful time. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
I bet I had a better journey than you. You probably did. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Thank heavens the station's still open. Over to you now to kick off proceedings. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Thank you. Here we go. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
Well, from the Highlands of Scotland | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
to a part of London I know very well, Finsbury Circus. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
I used to live down the road. Oh. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
But not Finsbury Circus as I knew it. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
What's going on? This is Finsbury Circus | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
as painted as a circus during the war | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
when my mother-in-law, who's in the centre here, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
was in charge of all the next-of-kin Red Cross parcels | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
that came into London to be sent on out to the prisoners-of-war. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
They had to open them, check all the contents, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
make sure that nothing was disallowed, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
repack them, and then sent them to Geneva | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
so they could be sent to the prisoners-of-war. So this was a vital place | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
and are these cartoons of all the people working with her? They are. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
This was painted by one of the team, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
a lady called Mary McNeil. Right. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
I think it's a wonderful image, evocative of a very essential | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
but often forgotten wartime service. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
The Red Cross parcel was absolutely crucial | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
for the thousands of people in prisoner-of-war camps. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Because it went through the Red Cross, it was allowed. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
If you read any biography or story about escapes, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Colditz or wherever, the day the parcels arrived was always a wonderful moment. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
Yes. They were sent out every three months. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
Yes, we also know, indirectly of course, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
they used things like the tins of milk | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
from the parcels for escape attempts. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
They made air vent tunnels, all sorts of things. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
They weren't allowed files or knives. No, and I love the way you say they were checked, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
because of course families would think, I'll put in a knife, I'll put in a file. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
And had those gone through and been found by the Germans - and the same happened in reverse - | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
the whole thing would have fallen into abuse and the Red Cross would have been stopped doing it. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
This is one insight into that. It's a lovely cartoon. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
She's not a great artist, not a professional, it doesn't matter, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
it brings to life the sort of spirit of the time, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
and you can see the characters of certain people, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
the poodle, the bird, they're obviously reflective of how they actually were. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
The poodle was a Cockney who was in charge of cash | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and at one time the person was found to be pinching the money. Ah. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
So she was sacked and another Cockney came in who was very efficient. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
A poodle on its best behaviour. That's it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
It's a great item, it's history rather than a painting. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
What's it worth? Gosh. I think because of what it shows, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and the insight into a very difficult period in British history, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
it's an insight that to me is worth ?300 to ?500, certainly. Mm-hm. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
Just the family history. That's nice. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Thank you very much. And now back to the wilds of Scotland. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
I hope you enjoy it. I shall. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
You're really getting value for money here. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
You've brought in not one vase, but at least 30. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
There's a lot on it, isn't there? Fantastic detail. Yeah. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
Lovely, I love it. When did it come to you? | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
We had it given to us about 30 years ago, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
but it's been in the family for as long as I can remember, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and I've always loved it. There are a pair. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
You've only brought one of the pair, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
which is just as well, otherwise we could spend all day looking at these. Well. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
How closely have you looked? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Well, every time I take them down off the cabinet to dust them, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
which isn't very often, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I see something different and think, ooh, lovely. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
And I was just looking today, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I noticed this lovely pot of fruit or flowers up here. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
You can keep seeing things, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
but you need to stand very closely | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
and this vase here is just so beautifully painted. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
This arrangement of vases, of teapots, of fruits, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
generically in China is known as "a thousand scholar's objects" | 0:05:44 | 0:05:50 | |
and when you see it on a vase like this, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
it's really re-affirming the scholarship of the owner. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
These are all, or many of them, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
are the things you'd expect to see on a scholar's table. Yes. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
As decoration, but also referring to all sorts of things, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
much deeper, in Chinese culture. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
And let's just have a look, shall we? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
You've got a fabulous flower pot here, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
and the painter's actually painted the scene | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
you would see on a celadon flower pot. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
There's a little figure... Gorgeous. ..crossing a bridge on a stream. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
These extraordinary fruits are known as "Buddha's hand citron". | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Then you've got this table with scholar's objects. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
No scholar's table would be complete without a screen, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
and on this one you've got a dragon pursuing a pearl. Right. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:41 | |
And there you've got an ancient Chinese bronze. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Wow. Amazing. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
It's known as a chui. A chui. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
And dates all the way back to the Zhou and the Shang dynasties. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
So I mean, we could go on and on with this. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:59 | |
Each one of these vases is credible in its own right | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
and then the painter has done a fantastic job of converting | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
these beautiful patterns which you're used to seeing on much bigger pieces, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
onto these tiny miniatures. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Do you think one person painted the whole thing, or would it have been done by different artists? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
I think one person painted the whole thing. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
If you compare it with painters in the City of Jingdezhen in China today, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
you would expect the painting of this piece | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
to have taken approximately 20 or 30 days. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
Right. And you've got two of them. Yes, isn't that wonderful? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
It dates to the mid 19th century so it's 160-odd years old. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
OK, it's a family thing. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
We're going to have to tell you what it would be worth. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
I think it's somewhere between... We're talking about a pair? Yes. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
Somewhere between ?3,000 and ?5,000. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Right. Lovely. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
But I won't be selling them, I love them. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Well, I think this is a really special little piece of glass. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
I presume you've known it for years. Well, my grandmother was fostered, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
and when she was 13, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
her father came to North Wales and wanted her to keep house for him in Shropshire. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
Her friends were really upset that she was leaving, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and that was given to her as a leaving present. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
So about 1910 she was given that and I've had it since she died in '97. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
And what do you reckon of it? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I don't know much about it, other than that she was given it. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
I really don't know. Do you peer into it and examine it? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
As a child, I loved it and that's why I asked for it | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
when Nana died, because of the little animal figures in it. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
There's a veritable zoo living in here, isn't there? You wouldn't think... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
To the casual glance, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
you could just pass over this as another piece of life's fluff, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
but if you zoom in on here, there's a whole world living inside here. What have we got? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
Monkeys, goats, donkeys | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
and all sorts of other things going on in there. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
Most interestingly there's some letters in there, aren't there? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Yes, that's what I wondered about, because I wondered if it was made | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
in that year, in 1848, or what. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
There's also, there's a date and a letter, isn't there? There's a B. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:14 | |
Yeah. And an 1848. Yes. So I've no idea. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
And the B pretty good | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
because it is La Cristallerie de Baccarat, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
Baccarat. Right. Ie, one of the world's greatest paperweight makers. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
Oh, right. Not just French, but "hot French"! Oh, right. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
And the detail in here, the packed, compact, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
action-packed centre of this, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
is the result of an amazing amount of very hard work. Mmm. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
It's a bit bashed, so the bad news comes with the good. Mm-hm. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
That's called a wallop in anybody's language. Right. That's another one. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
Uh-huh. Which leaves it worth only... | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
?700 or ?800. Oh, right. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
That's lovely. And I'm pleased to know that it's a good one. It is. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
Judging by the finial on this lovely silver jug | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
and a splendid badge on your jacket, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
do you have a connection with this piece? | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Yes, I do. This was presented to the curling clubs in Atholl | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
by the Duke of Atholl in 1853, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
and Eve and I are both members of Dunkeld Curling Club, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
and the Duke of Atholl was also a member. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
That's the connection. Right. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Now, we have with us | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Eve Muirhead, who is the triple junior world champion, is that right? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
Yeah, yeah. I'm the first person to win three years in a row, which was great. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
I'm fortunate enough to travel around the world. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
My first medal was won in USA, second one in Sweden | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
It's fantastic we've got all this history here, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
surrounding curling. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Was curling actually played here at the castle? | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Yes, it was played | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
in the grounds of the Hercules Garden | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
and this is a picture of the Hercules Garden and curlers taking part. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Do you know when this might have been taken? About the 1900s. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
Right. So you had to be assured | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
that the water froze over every year in order to play. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Yes, we didn't play every year, unfortunately, but most years, yes. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Right. Well, let me talk about the silver jug at the moment. It's got | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
beautiful engraving on the front, here, of a curling scene | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
and you've very kindly brought along a book here which seems to have | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
an almost identical engraving by Sir George Harvey. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
What I particularly like is the chap throwing himself on the ground | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
in despair at having lost a game. Does that still happen? | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Yes, it can happen. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
This piece was actually made in England | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
and it's got a good set of hallmarks here, made by the Barnard Brothers. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Oh, right. And made in London in 1841. Oh, we didn't know that. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
So it was made quite a bit earlier than when it was first presented. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
So I suspect that the Duke of Atholl had this hot-water jug | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
in the house somewhere, didn't have any use for it and thought, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
"I'll give that as a curling trophy." | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Yes, we're very pleased he did. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:16 | |
Because there's quite a few years between when it was made | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
and when it was first presented. Yes. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Now, I need to sort of put a value on it, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
which is pretty nearly impossible because, you know, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
there's so much local history in this, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
and how do you value local history? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
If the jug didn't have any engraving on it whatsoever, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
we'd be saying it was sort of ?1,000-?1,200. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
If it was sold somewhere miles away from here, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
I think it might make ?3,000. Oh. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
But it could make any price, because there'd be | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
a lot of people around here who'd love to get their hands on it, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
because it's a very handsome piece of silver. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
There are a lot of clubs around here. That's correct, yes. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
But that symbolises, really, what it's all about, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
so thank you so much for coming along. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
No problem. Thank you for speaking to us. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
This is a clan heirloom with a rather unusual story, isn't it? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
And when I say, "clan", it's MacPherson Clan. Correct. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
There are MacPhersons in... I feel embarrassed to say clan, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
but Bruce, Sutherland and MacPherson are where my family comes from. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
You couldn't come from better stock, if I may say so. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
So, tell me about this spoon, then. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:27 | |
It was the property of a very colourful gentleman | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
called Captain John MacPherson, who lived at the end of the 18th century | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
in a farm called Ballachroan about 40 miles north of here. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
He was a very successful person on two counts. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
One was in farming, a very advanced farmer, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
he introduced rotation of crops, turnips for winter feeding, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
both of which were unusual at that time. Neeps? | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Yes, very much neeps. And, secondly, he was a recruiter for the army. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Remember we were fighting the French, there was a dire need of young men to join the infantry. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
He adopted slightly underhand methods when recruiting for the army. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
He was reputed to go and make a young man rather drunk, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
put a shilling in his pocket and say, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
"Ha-ha! You've taken the King's shilling, come and join with me." | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Similarly in... because of his success, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
his neighbours suspected he was in league with the devil. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
His success recruiting for the army? Yes, and also as a successful farmer. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
They were envious, obviously. They spread rumours that he was | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
in league with the devil, that the devil would give him success in this world | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
but things would catch up with him at the end of the day. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
So, where does the spoon come in? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
The spoon comes in, in so far that before his recruits were marched off, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
he used to feed them with broth, probably from his own produce, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
and this was the spoon that was used to spoon it out. Oh, I see. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
So he'd be stirring his neeps and tatties and what have you. Yes. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
You're worried this bit will drop off, I'll be very careful... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
and then he would pass it to the, sort of, hapless recruit. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
That's right. Yes. You're mine now. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
However, Nemesis caught up, because on the last few days of 1799, | 0:14:56 | 0:15:03 | |
he and four companions went up into the Cairngorms, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
into a very remote place called Gaick, for a hunting expedition. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
They did not return. A party went out to look for them, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
they discovered there'd been an avalanche. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
The bothy where they'd been staying had been swept away | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
and all five men died. So, the devil caught him at the end of the day. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
So the devil won out. But the spoon remains. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Thank goodness he didn't take it with him! | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
Great story. Thanks very much. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Thank you very much, Fiona. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
Well, in April 1919, this is a lost luggage label, and, do you know, | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
I'm rather pleased that this object was retrieved from lost luggage. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:06 | |
It's a sensational piece of 18th-century engineering. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:13 | |
But there's a wonderful story with it. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
It was a machine owned by Queen Charlotte, wife of George III, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
and she had a lady-in-waiting, Mrs Delaney, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
who was a very famous lady and very famous for her embroidery. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
And Queen Charlotte and the King had a party at Windsor | 0:16:29 | 0:16:36 | |
and presented this machine to Mrs Delaney | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
in thanks for all that she'd done for the Queen and the Royal Family. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
She has been well documented, and nobody has anything | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
but lovely things to say about Mrs Delaney | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
and she became a companion for the Queen, for Queen Charlotte, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
and they were rough contemporaries, but her work is renowned. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
There has just been, for instance, an exhibition in New York | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
featuring Mrs Delaney's work. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Her work appears in the British Museum, in Windsor Castle, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
in all the royal collections, and she is this super-star | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
in embroidery terms. People worship Mrs Delaney's needlework. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:23 | |
And, in fact, there is a tiny scrap of her work here, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
which shows what she is perhaps best known for, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
which was working in bright colours on black. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I do love this little section in the letter. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
She describes the machine here, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
"a weaving machine for making fringes of a new and most delicate structure, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:47 | |
"yet it is of such simplicity as to be very useful. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
"You will imagine my grateful feeling when the Queen presented it to me." | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
So, indisputable provenance and a lovely object, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
made of mahogany which of course was the new great material of the day. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:08 | |
With ivory. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
You've got this to hold the strings, which are knotted onto here | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
and then you would have woven these incredibly delicate fringes, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:23 | |
here we go, which were the height of fashion at the time. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
And alongside that you've got another great mechanical device. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
It's a spool winder. On goes the spool. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
And you turn the handle | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
and the thread is put on evenly, backwards and forwards. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
It's got a lovely feel to it, I love 18th century design. It's wonderful. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
It's as smooth as smooth. It is, it is, it's got a great feeling to it. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
It's a lovely piece of cabinet maker's art. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
There's a button here, for instance. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
You push that, and there is the secret drawer. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
And value... With the royal connection, I have no hesitation | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
in thinking that this would fetch | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
upwards of ?10,000. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
CROWD GASPS | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
Oh...oh, dear. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
No, I shall never be tempted. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I say I shan't be tempted. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
So, we've got Minnie and we've got Mickey. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
You have inherited or played with these? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Yes, no, they were never allowed to be played with, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
they've been in a pillow case since 1936 | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
when their owner, who was my uncle, died. Oh. He had rheumatic fever | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
and he was very poorly. Whenever he got too ill, he was taken to hospital | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and they were his friends in hospital. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
He died on his 11th birthday. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
11! And they were with him when he died | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
and the pillow case that he was lying on when he died, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
was what they used to wrap them up and he's been in that pillow case... | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Well, how many years is that? Quite a few decades, anyway. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Yes, absolutely. This is the first time they've spent any time out. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:24 | |
that got my eye when you brought them in. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Mainly because Mickey is more common, he's by, probably, Dean's, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
which is an English company and they made lots of them. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
Minnie is in such good condition, this is what is so extraordinary, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
so he obviously talked to them, but he didn't handle them very much | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
because she's completely untouched in terms of... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
She's pristine. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I'm going to pick her up, do you mind? Go for it. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
I just love these little shoes, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
heels, I mean absolutely enchanting. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Now, you probably know, because you've read that. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
That is the Steiff label, Steiff being the German teddy bear maker, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
if you like. Well known for teddy bears but they made all sorts | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
of other animals and toys and this is the first Minnie | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
I've actually seen, in this condition, by Steiff. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Really? Yes, and she would have had, and I can see it, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:28 | |
And I've actually been to Germany | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
and seen how they put these buttons in, they're metal | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
and they clamp them in and they're very difficult to take out, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
but obviously your uncle, your uncle's mother... Yes. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:43 | |
..must have thought, "I'm not going to let my poor child, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
"who's poorly anyway, start eating a metal button." | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
Which was probably lead. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Will you hand them down, will you? | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
That's up to my mother because it was her brother that died | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
and she has six children, so she has to decide which of us... | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
I'm the eldest so hopefully she'll choose me. But she has five others. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
I really loathe to tell you what I think she's worth. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
I think he's probably worth... | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
probably about ?200 to ?300. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Right. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
But this one in this condition, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
and it's Minnie which is rarer than Mickey... | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
I would not hesitate putting | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
?3,000-?4,000 on her. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Wow! | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
She's quite pricey, isn't she? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
I just think she's heaven. Great. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Have you ever looked really closely at this face? | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
It's a wonderful serene expression, beautifully modelled. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
She is, she's great. Do you know, this dates from 1680? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
No! | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
I didn't realise it was nearly as old as that. How did you get it? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
My husband inherited it from his mother and he just remembers it | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
on her dressing table in Ireland but doesn't know anything | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
about the background of it. So, she might have been a collector? | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
She was definitely a collector. All round the house were things | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
that she had collected at auctions and also on her travels. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
It's a beautiful figure, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
it's Chinese, it's Chinese Blanc de Chine porcelain, white of China. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
It's a figure of the Bodhisattva, Kuan Yin, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
she's the goddess of mercy. Yes. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
And usually she's seated on a lotus throne | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
but here she's got two attendants either side, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and it's a really beautiful piece of sculpture. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
The robes, they hang loosely, they flow, terrific thing. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
Blanc de Chine was made in the Dehua area and the Fujian Province | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
towards the end of the Ming Dynasty | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
and right up to the present day. You can get really quite brand-new | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
white figures, which are really nasty. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
So how can you tell that it is that age? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
The way it's been sculpted, this lovely creamy colour of the glaze | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and it's very strongly moulded. The way the base is finished... Yes. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
..is quite right for the end of the 17th century. Yes. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
It's a really lovely figure and it's a really nice thing to see. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
And, great. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
It's got a value, of course. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
At the moment it's filthy, but once it's been cleaned up, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
it's in lovely condition. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
If you went down the end of Bond Street, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
into Clifford Street, somewhere like that you'd expect to pay | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
?5,000-?5,500 for this. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
My goodness, worth cleaning then? Absolutely. Carefully, carefully. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Will do. Thank you. Thanks for bringing it. Thanks for your help. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Now, he's a boy isn't he, not a girl. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Absolutely right, yes, in fact he is my great-great-great-grandfather. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
Crikey. What date would that be, roughly? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
We're looking at 1760s. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
And he went on to be a soldier? He's playing with toy soldiers there. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
He did, even though he was dressed in a little smock, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
which they tended to be in that period, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
he went on to join the Enniskillen Dragoon Guards. Right. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
And became Lieutenant Colonel. So a very high ranking officer. Yes. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
And who painted it? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
We think it's Masquerier and that's why I brought it today | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
because I'm absolutely fascinated. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
And Masquerier is a really interesting character, isn't he? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
They thought he might have been a Napoleonic spy... Yes. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
..during the Napoleonic Wars, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
which is great fun, but he proved he was actually born in Chelsea, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
so that was all right. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
So he managed to get off the hook on that one. I didn't know that. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
But it's a sweet little portrait but there are little things about it | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
that make me worry it might be rather more studio than the master. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Mmm-hmm. Slight weaknesses in the hand, for example, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
And I think, actually, I might feel the need to downgrade it. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
Shall we say that it's a little more studio than master? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
Fine. I think we have to. Yes. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
But at any rate, even there, it's still worth, I would say, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
between ?4,000 and ?6,000. Thank you. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
So, staying with your great-great-great-grandfather. Yes. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
This is a miniature of the Masquerier painting. That's right. Isn't it? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
And you've got these miniatures, any one of which we could take. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Problem is we haven't the time. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
So, I'm just going to pick out three which just scream quality to me. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
And I think you know the ones I mean. I think I do. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
They're by John Smart the Elder. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
This one, and this one and that one. That's right. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
They are wonderful. Thank you. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
I would have considered that perhaps the earliest John Smart | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
that I'd ever seen, it's dated 1765. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Really? When he was still very young. Yes, yes. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
And it has that restraint, and that very blue palette | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
and that very simple background that he became famous for innovating, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
and particularly, particularly good at. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
And he's wonderful, there's such insightful character in his face, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
and it's such a fine portrait. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
And he was very famous for delineating every eyelash | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
and the general character of the man just shines out, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
although tiny, in a very, very powerful way. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
This one's later, this is 1770 when he started painting them | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
a little larger, and the palette changed, as you can see, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
from 1765 to this richer, warmer palette. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
They're just, they're just... just wonderful. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
I'm not going to try and value the rest of your miniatures now. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Let's take the 1765 one first. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Being early is not necessarily good for John Smart. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
But this early I think I'd better be safe and put | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
?10,000 to ?15,000 on that, but that's conservative. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
You ought to insure it for a lot more. Really? | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Yes, I would say ?20,000. Really? Yes. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
And then this one, which is very pretty. I mean, it is later, 1770, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
but it's larger and it has that warmer palette and, of course, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
it's a female sitter again, and rather a pretty one, I think. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
That one, I think we'd better put | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
?20,000-?30,000 on, for sure. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
But we ought to be a little safe | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
and perhaps put ?40,000 on it for insurance. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Gracious. Yes. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
And then we come to this and what a cracker he is. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
I think we're going to have to put ?20,000-?30,000 on him, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
but insure it for ?50,000. 50. Yes. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Heavens. But they are wonderful, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
really, really good. Fascinating. Well, thank you very much indeed. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
So have you known this long, madam? | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Yes, I have. How long have you known it? 46 years. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
And do you smoke it? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
No. So where does it come into your family? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Oh, it came through my husband. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
So does he smoke it? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
No, I'm a non-smoker. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
So where did you get it from? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
From my mother. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:24 | |
Did she smoke out of it? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
No, she collected it. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Ah, she collected antique, wacky stuff? | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
Red glass, Bristol glass. Bristol. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Well, don't get me going on Bristol glass, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
because it's about as Bristolian as I am from Hong Kong. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
There's no way. This was made in about 1880, thereabouts. Right. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
And I can tell you, as a statistical fact, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
there were no glassworks in Bristol at that date. Oh. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
This was probably made in Yorkshire, I would think. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Oh, right. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
But what a wacky item. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
I don't think it was ever intended to be used really. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
It's purely a silly thing which is naturally the reason I like it so much. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
Good. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
That's nice. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:13 | |
The values of these have fallen, they're not what they were. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
Yes. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:18 | |
Nonetheless, I mean, what a completely preposterous idea, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
to have a glass pipe, but I just love the idea of you knowing | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
it for so long and neither of you thinking of using it. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Value today is not a great deal, about a couple of hundred quid. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
OK. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:31 | |
But I can't imagine a wackier pair to own it. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:36 | |
You're most welcome. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
We'll have some whisky in it. You won't! You cheeky girl. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Looking at these figures, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
they could date from no other era than the 1950s. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
They absolutely shriek the decade. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
They're by the Briglin Pottery in London | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
and designed by the Parkinsons from Kent, and what a stellar cast. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
We've got Paul Robeson, Laurence Olivier, John Gielgud, Margot Fonteyn | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
and Vivien Leigh. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
How did these stars come into your life? | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Well, it comes into my life through my late aunt who lived in London | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
and very much supported the theatre in London. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
She and her late husband supported also the potters. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
Her home was a shrine to the '60s and didn't move. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
Even up to her death in 1990 it was still very much a home of the '60s. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:33 | |
So a temple. It was a temple. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
It sounds just the sort of place I would love to go into. Yes. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Did she know the people behind the Briglin factory? | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
She did. Yes, she did. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
Was it Brigitte Goldsmith? | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
It was Brigitte Goldsmith through my late uncle. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
Well, it's fascinating because it was Brigitte Goldsmith | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
whose husband was Herbert Lom, no less. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Another stellar figure from the film world particularly. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
There was this great tradition in Britain of making | 0:30:58 | 0:31:05 | |
so they turned to Richard and Susan Parkinson who had a pottery in Kent. Yes. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
And Richard... Susan designed them, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
and Richard made them and these are very typical, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
this sort of greeny colour, this use of this decoration here, this almost scruffy look to it. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:23 | |
Here on the bottom we've got perfect mark "designed and made | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
"for Briglin by Susan Parkinson" and it's numbered number six. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Now these were quite expensive figures to make, they were | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
in the Design Centre in London and they were four guineas apiece. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:39 | |
Paul Robeson is the rarest figure, maybe no more than six were made. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
There are two missing. Oh. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Maria Callas is missing and Alec Guinness is missing. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
So it's not the full set. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
But they are so rare on so many levels and I don't know | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
if you know, but when these were on sale, Charlton Heston bought a set. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
Yes, he did. | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
And the Duke of Edinburgh bought a set. What a stellar cast. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Absolutely. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
Apart from... Myself! Apart from these people here. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
And the difficulty for me, pricing them, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
is pricing something which is so rare. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
But we know what Briglin pottery makes, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
we know what the Parkinsons' work makes, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
so I've been doing a little bit of calculation | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
and I think, bearing in mind that Paul Robeson is the rarest figure | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
and bearing in mind that it's not the full set. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
These figures, to the right collector, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
could make anything between ?8,000 and ?10,000. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Oh, my goodness me. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
So I hope you've got a lot of bubble wrap and cotton wool | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
and you're not going back on a rackety train home. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
Absolutely not. My goodness. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
What a wonderful tribute to your aunt who had immaculate taste. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
She had wonderful taste. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
And I'd have loved to have met her, she sounds fabulous. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
She was a lovely lady, I miss her very much. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Thank you for bringing them, it's made my day. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
These are the nicest things I've filmed this year, I love them. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Just before the Roadshow started this morning | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
I was really hoping and dreaming I would see some really good | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
Scottish art from the 20th century and you've brought along | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
a fabulous picture of Edinburgh by a very rare painter, William Crozier. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:17 | |
Yeah, all we know is the painting's called Edinburgh By Moonlight, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:32 | |
And they both exhibited together quite a bit and they formed, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:44 | |
And they tried to move away from sort of the traditions | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
of 19th century art and moving more towards modern art. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
Do you know a great deal about Crozier? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Not really, no. Don't know an awful lot about him. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
Well, it sounds to me | 0:33:56 | 0:33:57 | |
like this was a gift from Crozier to your grandfather. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
But Crozier had, slightly tragic, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
because he's recognised as one of great Scottish modern artists. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
But he was a haemophiliac. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
He was born in 1893 and died in 1930 | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
so he had a very short life. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
Crozier is well known for his cubist pictures. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
He went to France and studied under Andre Lhote, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
so there's a cubist element to his pictures which are very favourable. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
And there are four pictures I think, in the National Gallery of Modern Art, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
and there was a great show in 1995. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
So he's very well sought after. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
But because of his short lifespan | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
there aren't a great deal of pictures out there. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:41 | |
You can almost imagine being here, an evening in Edinburgh | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
on the streets, and the little gentleman on the left is lighting | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
probably a pipe or a cigarette | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
which creates this great glow. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
I would date this to about 1920 | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
and it gets slightly away from his cubist subjects and more towards | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
the traditionalist subjects that you'd see | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
by artists such as Anne Redpath. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
This is a very rare and sought after painting. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
And I could certainly see it making ?2,000 to ?3,000 on the present market. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
Wow. That's a shock. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
It's a very simple question, do you like this? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
Well, it's a nice shape, it's quite tactile and I don't know, I just | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
liked it, just bought it and thought I'd just keep that in the shed. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
So it lives in a shed? It's been in the shed a long time. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Not in the house? You can't like it that much. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
OK, well it's my turn now. I don't like it very much at all. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I think it's quite a crude pot, I think it's fairly lumpy, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
this sort of Japanese-style tea glaze is very, very mottled. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:43 | |
I just think I've seen better pots. OK. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
But I'm sorry to disagree with you. It's a matter of taste. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
That's OK. I still like it, no matter. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
Good, but the point is, it isn't actually whether you and I like it or not. No. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:59 | |
This is a pot that was made by one of the greatest | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
studio potters working in Britain. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
OK. Does that surprise you? | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
Well, it does really yes, because I just bought it as it was a pot. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
Have you heard of, have you heard the name Bernard Leach? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
Yes, I have heard of him. OK, that's fine, we're not going there. OK. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
Bernard Leach came back from Japan, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
I think at the end of the First World War and he came back | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
and started his pottery in St Ives in the very early '20s, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
and he brought back with him a Japanese friend, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
Shoji Hamada, and they worked together | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
to set up the whole sort of studio pottery movement in Britain. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
Right. And this pot dates from that early period. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
So this was made in 1923-1924. Gosh, really? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
And it was made by Hamada. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
There's the evidence. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
That's the standard | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
St Ives Leach pottery mark, which all the pieces had. OK. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
That is Hamada's monogram. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Oh, my goodness. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Now Hamada only marked pieces in the first few years of his life | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
because he said after a while, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
"I shouldn't really have to mark things, the pot is my signature. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
"If people can't tell it from the pot, they shouldn't know me." Gosh. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
And so pieces with his signature on, or his monogram, | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
only occur in the first two to three years of production. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
So you like it very much, I don't like it at all, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
but it is Hamada, it is early, it is an important piece, I acknowledge that. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
Therefore, we've got to talk about value. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
So how would you feel if I said to you ?1,000? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I'd say that would be very nice. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
But I'm not going to give it to you, because I wouldn't pay ?1,000 | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
to save my life to have that pot, but that's what it's worth. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Oh, my goodness, that is fabulous. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
I think it only cost me a pound, or 50p. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
Well, you did very, very well. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
I'd like to think I might have bought it for a pound or 50p, but I fear I might not have done. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
There are lots of treats involved with working on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
and I have to say, one of them | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
is very occasionally | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
to come across something that is | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
the best of its kind, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
and this is one of those moments. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Now your job here is...? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
I'm the archivist, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
so I look after all the papers | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
and documents mainly | 0:38:28 | 0:38:29 | |
and also have a curatorial role | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
for the display | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
and the things in the castle. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
But there is rather a lot of them. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
There's six rooms of documents | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
so there are few things I don't know. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
You're forgiven for not knowing | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
about something quite as esoteric as this. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
It is a train set, obviously, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
and for me it is, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
perhaps the expression, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
one of the best expressions | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
of the master tin-maker's art. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
This is all hand-made out of tin, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
with occasional little pieces of brass, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
a few tiny exceptions, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
the little whistle here | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
is turned wood, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:05 | |
the lamps here are turned wood, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
the carved figures are wood covered | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
in a sort of gesso and then painted, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
but otherwise it is exquisite | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
metal working at its very best. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
Do you know who the original owner would have been, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
The child that it was bought for? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
No, I'd like a date from you first. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
I've got a couple of options here, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
so if you can give me some sort | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
of indication of when it was made. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
All right. I'm going to have to come to that, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
because that's the sort of end of the story. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
We need to establish first of all | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
who it was made by. Right. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
And on the bottom of several | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
of these little pieces | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
there is the name Buchner. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
Now Buchner is, sounds German, is German. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
He was based in Nuremberg and we know that he was there in the 1870s. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
Oh, right, that's nice, yes. So that is one clue. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
However, in 1835 the Bayerische Ludwigsbahn, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:11 | |
the Bavarian State Railway, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
ordered the first commercial locomotive for Germany. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
A train that was christened "der Adler", the Eagle. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
That train ran in 1835. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Now while it would be wonderful to think that this was | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
from that period, I think it's a tad later. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
No, but that would fit pretty well, I quite like that. Ooh, go on then. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Because in 1840, this man was born. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:43 | |
He later went on to become the 7th Duke of Atholl, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
so I'm wondering if five years on, this would have been | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
perhaps the height of fashion for some duke to buy for their son. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:59 | |
Would that fit well with the period? That would fit really well. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
Because I think around 1845-1850 is exactly where I would put this. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
That would be perfect. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
I'm quite glad about that, yes. That's really exciting. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
There would be somebody here at that age | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
that would really be thinking a train is a good present. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
What I'd like to do is to just enjoy the object, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
because the more you look at it, the more fabulous it is. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
The boiler here is faceted, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
just as the original would have been, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
you've got the tender here | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
and then coming back, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:35 | |
you've got the three classes of coach. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
First class, closed in. Right. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Second class, just with a roof and third class, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
well, you take your risks. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:47 | |
You hope it's a day like this. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
As it always is, in Scotland! | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
But look, just look, look, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
I'm sure you've done this, Jane, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
but I'm going to do it too. Yes. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
In there, all these fabulous little people. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
It looks like a sort of outing from Jane Austen, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
a little bit later in date, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
but you know, there they all are off on their picnic or whatever. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:12 | |
It's interesting as well, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
because they were having proposals | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
for the railway to come here | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
in the 1840s and the then duke | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
was a bit doubtful about it, and later became quite enthusiastic, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
and it was this son that finally saw | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
the railway come through here. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
So it really ties in very well. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
Isn't that extraordinary? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:33 | |
It's the right sort of date for it all happening. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
So the bringing of a model train, a toy train, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
into the household could have triggered all that? | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Obviously the son got very enthusiastic about the railway, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
he was a director and he was here when it went through. Yes. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
And the night before the railway opened, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
they gave him a special ride | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
from the top of his lands at Drumochter, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
and he went at the unprecedented speed | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
of 50mph for the first time ever. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Isn't that great? It's a good story. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
It's a fabulous story and I'm not going to doubt it. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
I think you're absolutely right on that, it's too good to miss. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Let's talk about value. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
This is an incredibly esoteric thing, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
it is not mainstream. Right. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:15 | |
There are probably half a dozen people in the whole world | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
who would want this, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
but they have deep pockets | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
and I would be confident in saying | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
that this would fetch | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
something between | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
?25,000 and ?35,000 at auction | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
and for insurance, certainly ?50,000. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
It's still going back in the case | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
and back in there I'm afraid! | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
And you've got the key? That's it. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Thank you so much for bringing it | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
out of its glass case | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
and for linking it in with the history of railways at Blair. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:51 | |
We've had rather a locomotive theme on the show today. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
We started with the railway and we've ended with a rather smaller version. | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
We're all rather chuffed. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
From the whole Antiques Roadshow team from Blair Castle | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
and the Scottish Highlands, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
Subtitles by Ericsson | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 |