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This week, we've come to the beautiful Dorset coast. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
Here, near the famous beauty spot of Lulworth Cove, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
stands Lulworth Castle, set in glorious secluded grounds. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Just the place to relax. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Enjoy the peace and quiet... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
ARTILLERY FIRE | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
Or maybe not! | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
This week, the Antiques Roadshow comes to you from a castle | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
with a very unusual back garden. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
ARTILLERY FIRE | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Since 1916, part of Lulworth Castle's huge estate has been | 0:01:08 | 0:01:14 | |
a firing range... with the odd tank here and there. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Back then, when tanks first arrived in the quiet lanes of Dorset, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
they were so new and so secret, they were known as "hush-hushes" | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
and the residents had to pull their blinds down | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and stay in the back room as they passed by. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
These days, tanks aren't quite so hush-hush. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
I've come to Bovington, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
It's filled with historic tanks, spanning the decades, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
including the first-ever tank, Little Willie. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
And guess who gets to drive this one? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
A 432 armoured personnel carrier. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
I've got some illustrious predecessors. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
King George V was in a tank here in 1928, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
Princes William and Harry learned here, and then, who could forget? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
That Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher, in a headscarf and goggles. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
Well, I was tempted but I can't find those. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
Instead, I've been given this rather natty helmet. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Off we go! | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Of course they won't let me loose in this thing alone. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Instructor Roy Avery will be keeping a close eye on me. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
The faster you go, the lighter it becomes. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
I wasn't thinking of going too fast. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
Well, I don't know, you might get carried away! | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
ENGINE GRINDS AND ROARS | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
'You'd think something weighing 15 tonnes would be slow and lumbering, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
'but with a top speed of 32mph, this is really pretty nippy.' | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
Shall I go straight ahead? Yeah. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
'I'll tell you what. Perched at the front, it feels a lot faster.' | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
'I think I could rather get to like riding in tanks, | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
'and despite all the noise, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:12 | |
'perhaps Lulworth has reason to love them, too?' | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
It seems that the big guns and the tanks are doing some good, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
protecting the heathland, acting as a big, noisy nature reserve. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
In fact, this is a World Heritage Site. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
The only one that also doubles as a firing range. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
Since today's venue, the castle, is just over there, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:46 | |
is a company called Whitanco, and it's your family company. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
It is indeed. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
My grandfather and grandmother both died | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
when my father was five years old, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
and I was shown this catalogue when I was a child. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
And you said, "Great, where's the company!?" | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
That's true. But, of course, at the time, it was just a catalogue | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
of some old toys, and I was more into toys of the time. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
This came out of, basically, the attic, you know, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
and from there I've been trying to research the company | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
and find the toys. Brilliant! | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
So when did all this start? | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
This started in 1997. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Quite late, I have to say. Very late! | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
As far as the toy market is concerned. Very late. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
You know, the market was pretty well developed by that point. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
That's right, unfortunately. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
So, I can't believe that there are any huge bargains to be had, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
but let's just talk about Whitanco which is, as we can see | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
on their 1921 catalogue, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
it's a shortened form of the company name, Whiteley, Tansley and Company. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:59 | |
because let's put it into context. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Before the First World War, most tin plate toys were coming from Germany. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
That's right. And after the First World War, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
the British were not very keen on buying German-produced goods, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
and so Whitanco had really | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
a very fertile ground to exploit. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
But looking at the actual quality of the products, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
one has to say that it's a bit mixed. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
On the one hand, you have this big limousine down here, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
which would rival any of the really expensive | 0:05:33 | 0:05:39 | |
and desirable toys made from... | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
really the 1910 period upwards, in Germany. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
I mean, it's a fabulous limousine. Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
And then you get to something like the spinning top, which obviously... | 0:05:50 | 0:06:00 | |
One of the objects here that is most arresting, perhaps, is the tank. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
Here we are in Dorset. Just up the road there is Bovington Tank Museum. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:17 | |
that we're looking at a tank. Does it work? It does, it does. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:27 | |
so it's something that people would be familiar with. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Let's see if it works after all these years. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
OK. You're safe! | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
So, as far as value's concerned, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
this won't be a great discovery moment for you | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
because you've been buying them over the last 13 years. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
So, I think that the values vary | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
between perhaps ?800 to ?1,000 for the limo, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
down to under ?100, for instance, for the spinning top. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
Within that range, we've got other things | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
at ?300, ?200 and so on, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
so is it like getting the family back together again? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
Every part I find is a bit like finding part of my grandfather, you know, who died in 1923. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
Well, good luck with it. Thank you. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I'm looking at a piece of paper here | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
which is headed with the word "abdication". | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Now, that takes us straight into | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
very exciting contemporary history. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
I don't know what it is about the Duke and Duchess of Windsor. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
They are just so much part of our imagination. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
There are films, there are books, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
there've been wonderful sales of the Duchess' jewels. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
It's something that we all grab onto as part of our history, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
even though it's actually a terrible story, when you look at it. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
This seems to be an abdication statement, but why have you got it? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
I have got it because my great uncle was the Naval Secretary at the time | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
and he was obviously sent this. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
So what we're looking at here, is not that famous broadcast | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
where he said, "I can't live without the woman I love". No. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
But this is almost more important, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
as this is the formal statement of abdication | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
which he then signed, a crucial piece of history. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
If we look at the back, there's a circulation list | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and they're all very, very important naval officers, First Sea Lord, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
the First Lord of the Admiralty. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
It was obviously very, very restricted access. Is that him? Yes. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
Naval Secretary. Yes. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
He must have been a very senior and distinguished naval officer | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
to be part of this process. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
I think I'm going to read the first sentence because it really says it all. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
"After long and anxious consideration, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
"I have determined to renounce the Throne | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
"to which I succeeded on the death of my father, | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
"and I am now communicating this, my final and irrevocable decision". | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
This had never happened in history before. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
This is the moment all our lives changed, really. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Obviously, there's been a whole film about it, which we've all enjoyed. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
So you always had it? Yes. It's been in the sort of family papers? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Yes, it's been in a drawer, and I just... | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
But you brought it today. Yes. I thought it'd be interesting. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
It's more than interesting, it's very valuable. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
I can see a collector being very excited by this - | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
a rare chance to get something | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
which was the instrument of changing history. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
I'm going to say it's going to be between ?500 and ?1,000. Gosh! | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
And why not? It's a great family treasure. Yes. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
And a great national treasure. Thank you very much. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
Because we're surrounded here with loads and loads of sheep, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
wonderful landscape beyond, too, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Lulworth must be the perfect setting to see a really lovely Victorian landscape | 0:09:43 | 0:09:50 | |
by Charles Jones, depicting sheep. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
You can see lower right that there's a monogram and it's dated 1888. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
And he was known as "Sheep Jones", | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
the artist Sheep Jones from the Victorian period. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
And that's all he painted. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
Occasionally the odd cow, but mostly sheep. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
And I thought we might just go and see whether we think, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
make our own judgments, whether Mr Jones WAS a great sheep painter. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Excellent. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
These have to be the largest pair of knickers I've ever seen, I think! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:26 | |
I've never tried them on, I can tell you. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
I'm extremely glad you haven't! | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
My sister has been holding on to them all these years, all wrapped away. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
So, because of this great insignia here, we can tell they were actually | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
owned, and presumably worn, by Queen Victoria. Correct. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
And, seemingly, when she was a young girl, she had a 20-inch waist. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
Nine children later... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
Yes. That's halfway there. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
I think she's 50-something. So where did you get these? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
My sister's husband had a second-hand shop back in the '60s. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:05 | |
And he inherited it from his father. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
They were cleaning the shop up and painting bits, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
and they were using this pile of rag out at the back. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
And here it was... And my mother spotted these. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
The Queen's knickers. The Queen's knickers. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
You've done a bit of research on that. I have. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
Some went about two years ago and I think they fetched getting on for 3,000, ?4,000. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
I can't remember the exact figure. Gosh! | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
There's a lot of interest in Queen Victoria, royal memorabilia... Yes. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
There's a tremendous upsurge of interest now. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
And, of course, the Americans are fascinated, the Japanese. Yes. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Unfortunately, I don't think these would fetch that now. Right. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
The thing about it is, she had a tremendous number of pairs of these | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and for all the different houses she had, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
so there are quite a lot of them around | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
and I would say, really, now, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
probably ?500 to ?600. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
Right. OK. But still... OK. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
For a pair of knickers. Exactly! LAUGHTER | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Probably worth saving, then. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
If we imagine Charles Jones standing here with his easel | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
in 1888, painting this lovely landscape with the sheep beyond. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
I think comparing this picture with the present beautiful landscape, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
he was pretty good and I now can see why he had his reputation | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
as Sheep Jones. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
You get all the light and wonderful texture, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
but also the landscape's good. Tell me, where did it come from? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
It came from my mother. She was a housekeeper at Keele University, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
at the Provost's Lodge, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
and the Provost there was a man called Sir George Barnes, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
who, unfortunately, died of a long illness, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
which my mother looked after him, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
and the family were so grateful, they bequeathed her this picture, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
and since then it's been in our family. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
But we greatly admire it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
It's something to be wondered at, isn't it, really? Yeah. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
The features are unbelievable. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
That's a lovely bit of history. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
It's always good to know a good bit of history on a painting. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Of course, he was a very good painter. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
He exhibited at the Royal Academy. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Your picture is painted quite late in his career, '88. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
But I have seen earlier pictures, from the '60s - 1860s, 1870s - | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
which are much, much tighter in quality. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
And I think it's from the '60s he got his reputation | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
for being one of the great animal painters of his time. Yes. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Anyway, this is still a very good picture by Charles Jones, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Sheep Jones. Brilliant, yes. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
And this is worth ?3,000 to ?5,000. Wow! | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Thank you. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Don't know... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Well, there we are. It's an insurance job for me, isn't it? Thank you. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
What a gorgeous carriage clock. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
How did you get it? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
It's been in the family for quite a few years. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
My mother had it for many years and she got that, we think, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
from her grandmother, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
who was born somewhere in the middle of the 19th century. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
What sort of date do you think the clock might be? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Well, somewhere... 1870s on, I would've thought. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
But I don't... Where you put more accurately than that. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Well, I think that's fairly useful. It's a little bit later than that. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
I'd happily say 1875 to 1880 for that clock. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Maybe just a little bit later. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
The joy is that on the inside of the box here, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
we've got the signature of Jean Badollet and Company. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
Jean actually died in the 1850s, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
but there were a series of Badollets up until the 1920s | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
and they had an uninterrupted line of clock and watch makers for three centuries, as a family. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:53 | |
So these are great, great people. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
Now, the very best carriage clocks are always signed. Ah. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
This is particularly lovely because we have a full signature, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
very unusually, on the side of this plate. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Do you see, on the edge of that plate? Oh, I see, yes. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
Now, that is a sign of great quality. Ah. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
The movement itself, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
in all honesty, is going to be French. And the platform, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
that's the bit on top, the rectangular silvered bit, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
will almost certainly be made in Switzerland. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
So it would've been finished by Badollet | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
in their Geneva manufacturing. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
We have a top-of-the-range case, beautifully engraved with flowers. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
The porcelain dial is lovely. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
We've got this little cherub within the dial centre. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
Do you have it working? No. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
It used to work about 15 years ago or so, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
but it's gradually got slower and slower, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
and finally it's ground to a halt. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
It really is worthwhile having it cleaned and overhauled. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
With that case and that clock - it's a jolly good thing - | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
I think, ooh, happily ?3,500. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
Not bad at all! Thank you very much for that. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
So, again, worth spending a little bit of money having it cleaned. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
I definitely shall. Great. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
Now, what qualifies our experts to be called such, you might wonder. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
Well, one thing, among many, is their ability to spot subtle | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
differences that can make a huge financial impact on the object. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Like this teapot, for example. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
We've got three teapots here. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
They all look pretty similar to me, but one of them is worth about ?200, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
one about ?2,000, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
and one is much rarer, is worth about ?20,000. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
Fergus Gambon has set me, you, and our visitors, a challenge, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
to see if we can tell the difference. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
I'll have to do some homework but let's see if our visitors can help. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Do you know anything about teapots? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
No. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
But you like drinking tea? Absolutely. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Well, that's a start. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
Best. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
Best, yes. OK. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Better. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Better, I'll move it for you. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
Basic. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
And why do you think that's the best? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Er, because of this detail here on the lid. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Why do you think this is the cheaper one? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I think it looks transfer printed. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
This one just looks like | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
a bit of a cheap copy that someone's made at home really. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Someone's knocked up? Yeah. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
I'll look really stupid then, won't I? | 0:17:54 | 0:18:04 | |
Do you know, you have made me a very happy man. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
Oh, I'm glad of that. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:24 | |
Some are, and some aren't. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
They were in a sense presentation, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
so, yes, at the time of Baptism and particularly, for example, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
with these Apostle spoons, there you can see, we've got St Peter. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
The key a very obvious feature for him there. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
But it's a Barnstaple spoon, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
and some of the best spoons in the 16th and 17th century were actually | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
made in Barnstaple, there were some really top spoon makers there. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
The thinking is that if you were going to be called Peter... | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
You'd have one made. With St Peter on the top, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
you know, being born with a silver spoon in your mouth. True. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
So at the christening side, baptismal side, you'd get that. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
But then of course you can also get | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
what's known actually as a Puritan spoon. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
It wasn't known as a Puritan spoon in the 17th century | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
when it was made, but here we've actually got a marriage. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
Ah yes, yes. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
And we can go to other end of life as well. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
And here we've got two absolutely fascinating ones, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
they're a pair of spoons and the inscription that we've | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
got here "Martha Pope" and "Memoria 1629". | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
Oh, right. It was quite usual at the time of a funeral for there to be | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
funeral gifts and spoons were particularly used in this way. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:47 | |
That's exciting, but this one... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
What we've got on the top here is this figure of a lion. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
Ah, right. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
It's so beautifully modelled, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
can you see how you actually can see behind the legs? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Good heavens. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:03 | |
So many of them were just a sort of blob of metal. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
And this one was actually made by Robert Wade, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
and he was working in Bridgwater and in Taunton as well. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
And that again is 17th century. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
I should have listened to my husband when he told me about them. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
So he was actually the collector? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Oh, yes, as a small boy he used to bicycle round the countryside. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
Gosh. Where do we start with value? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
A spoon like this, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
I would think today... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
we're looking at about ?6,000. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Good gosh, yes. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
I knew it was valuable, but nothing like that, I must say. Right. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
This one, I have to say Puritans are really quite rare, ?2,000 to ?3,000. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:52 | |
Yes. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
And the Robert Wade spoon, very desirable, ?3,000 to ?4,000. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:00 | |
Ooh... Getting rather frightened! | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
It adds up... | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
These, this pair, they've got to be ?5,000, ?6,000 for the pair. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Well, they're going straight in the bank again. Right. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
I mean, overall, we're probably looking in excess of ?30,000... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
maybe ?40,000. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
Gosh, yes, that's quite something, isn't it? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
I knew they were good, but not that good. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Well, no doubt the castle holds a secret or two, but I gather your desk does also? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
It's got lots of secret drawers, yes. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Are you going to show me? I'll try. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Have you ever counted them? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
I haven't, no, but it's lots. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
And where does it come from? It belonged to my grandmother. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
We think she got it as part of a payment of a bill. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Shall we have a go? Yes, if you're up for it. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Well, I can see a pin here. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:57 | |
Yes. And it normally starts with a nail or a pin, doesn't it? | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Yes, yes. That's right, that's right. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
That's right, there's one at the back of there. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
OK, well, that's stained beech. Oh, is it? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
That doesn't look quite as old as some of the rest of it. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
That's more 19th-century, bit of pine and a bit of oak together. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
And these are all little drawers here. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Shall we lift that whole section out? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
Demolishing your desk! No, it's fine. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Just goes on and on, doesn't it? Yeah. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
And so you know it goes back to the 1940s. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Yeah, way before that. It was old then. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Yes, and what's your idea of its date? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
1890, something like that? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Yes, that's right. Oh, is it? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
Almost any date you said, could have been right. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
It could? Ah! | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Looking at the back, the back is all early 20th century, there are | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
some stunning bits of timber here which date from the 17th century. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
This all looks like George III oak side table, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
but actually it doesn't quite fit. Can you see the legs overhang? Yeah. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
The base is actually too wide for the top. Yes. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
And then sort of, to try to piece it together, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and there's a very nice lock in there, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
but then this escutcheon is a bit of early 20th-century fretwork. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Oh, is it? So almost any date you care to mention. A mixture, yeah. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
What's it worth? ?150 maybe ?200. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
SHE LAUGHS But you won't find another one for that! | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
I'm absolutely certain I will never see another piece of furniture just like this. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
No. The only thing now is, we've got to put it all back together again. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
I hope you know where everything goes. After you! | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Well, I know where this one goes. Yeah, that's in. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Earlier on, our ceramics specialist, Fergus Gambon, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
set us a little challenge, to try and work out | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
which of these three teapots is basic - worth about ?200, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
better - worth about ?2,000, and the best - worth about ?20,000. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Now, they're all English, all 18th-century and, to me, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
they look pretty similar. We all struggled a bit with this, actually. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Fergus, this was quite hard. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
I didn't quite know where to begin, actually. Are we looking for marks? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
I think marks are what we are not looking for. Oh, OK. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Marks would be easy, if it was all marks, the thing would be easy. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Most, or a lot of, 18th-century English porcelain | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
is completely unmarked, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
or sometimes, there's a mark of an entirely different factory, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
so the way we do it, is not look at the marks. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
We look at the marks last. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
We look at the paste and the glaze, and the shape and the decoration. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Now, some of these are in better nick than others. Yes. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
That one's got a whopping great crack there. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
And then a crack inside as well. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Yes, yes. Does that affect the value? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Generally, damage makes a big difference, it really does. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
A damaged item is worth less than half of the perfect one. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
It depends what kind of objects you're looking at. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
If it's something, perhaps there's only one or two in the world, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
if it's damaged, it doesn't matter, because you won't get another. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
A crack in a teapot is a pretty fundamental problem. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
It makes it unusable, doesn't it? | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
But, a crack in a teapot actually indicates | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
how well the teapot's made, because when you make a cup of tea, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
you pour boiling water into the pot, and not all porcelains are the same. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
A good porcelain teapot won't crack. We're very used to teapots | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
that don't crack, but in the 18th century, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
many teapots that people paid good money for, they took them home, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
they poured boiling water in, and they cracked, just like this. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
And it's often a circular crack like that which is a heat-shock crack. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:50 | |
So, seeing a teapot cracked in that way, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
that was made in the 18th century, isn't that unusual. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
They were really struggling. I'm now thinking I've made the wrong choice, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
given what you've just said. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
I decided that this, in consultation with our visitors here... Right. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
..was basic, because it just didn't look very detailed. Right. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
I was very torn between these two. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
Because this looked finer, the paintwork on it. Yeah. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
The detail was just so beautiful, and the colour of it's so beautiful. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
But it's got this whopping great crack. Quite a long crack. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
So I put that as better. Yes. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
Even though I don't like it as much, I put this as best | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
because it has this lovely detail on the top. Right. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
And hasn't got a crack. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
No, OK. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
You've got it all wrong. Oh! | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
Which you love, of course! | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Not one of them is right. Oh, no, not one! | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
No. So if we start at the bottom, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
the basic is that. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Why? Which is the, as you say, the kind of best-looking one. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Yes, right. Well, it's Worcester, it isn't cracked. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
Worcester porcelain was warranted to stand the heat. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
So that's a good thing. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
That's a good thing. But lots of teapots were sold because of that. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
Everyone wanted them. They sold lots of them. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
And this is printed, not painted, and it's also quite late. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
It's about 1780-1785, and by that date, much of the interest has gone | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
for 18th-century English porcelain collectors. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
OK, I'm liking you less now, Fergus. Sorry! | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
I'm sorry, I'll carry on! And then the better one is this one. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Oh! And it's also Worcester, but it's a bit earlier than the basic, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:28 | |
it's about 1758 to 1760. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:36 | |
I mean, for porcelain collectors this is a wonderful design, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
a hand-painted dragon, after Chinese porcelain. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:48 | |
as opposed to ?200 for the basic. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Yes, good. And so this one is the best? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
This one is the best. With the big crack and damage? | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
The big crack, well, because it's early, | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
really early on in the history of English porcelain. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
That little teapot was made between 1746 and 1748. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
How can you be so precise? | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
The factory was in production for a very short period of time. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
Which factory was that? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Limehouse in the East End of London in what is now Narrow Street, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
and there were a very, very, very small number of them, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
and the fact that it's cracked is a negative point, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
but there isn't another. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:38 | |
So it's really all a question of the noughts. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
?2,000, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
Gosh! | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
For a totally unmarked teapot. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
So, basic, better and best and all I'll say in my defence | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
is I did always really like this one, Fergus. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
you've got some idea what to look for, if you didn't already. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:11 | |
look on our website and you can see the locations we'll be coming to. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
The address is: | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
We're in Montmartre in the 1890s, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
absolutely my favourite time | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
in any city in the world, 1890s Paris. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
And this is by Theophile-Alexandre Steinlen, you can see that. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
He was a Swiss, and he knew Toulouse-Lautrec, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
he knew Alphonse Mucha, and they were pretty well involved | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
in the same business, in that they were designing posters. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
And particularly, what Steinlen did, was design posters | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
for Le Chat Noir, an exhibiting venue and music hall | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
in Montmartre. And of course, his great love was cats. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
Steinlen's own house was a meeting house for all the Parisian cats. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:10 | |
Lift a cushion and there was another one. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:18 | |
Um, I got it in a garage sale about a year ago. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
That great source for great art. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:31 | |
and I loved the composition of it. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I love the colours of the tortoiseshell cat, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
and it looked French, because when I looked at it, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
I thought of Toulouse-Lautrec, immediately. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Immediately, I thought of his posters and his other engravings | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
and things like that, and that's what actually... | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
But did you know anything about it? I didn't know the name, no. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
But I could see that it was... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
Is it a silk screen, is it, or something like that? | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Yes, it's a kind of screen print and it's on silk actually, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
it's the boldest, most powerful image | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
of the most cat-like cats you've ever seen. Yes. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
And it really does have a simplicity that punches home, doesn't it? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:16 | |
Did you bargain to get it down that low? Definitely, yes. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
Haggled? I haggled. Yeah, yeah. From ?30! | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
From 30? So he was a hard bargainer himself, wasn't he? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
Oh, I'm dreadful when I get going, actually. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
Well, it's probably worth about ?2,500, actually so... Right! | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
So you did pretty well. I did, didn't I? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
Yes. Yeah, you really did. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
There's a collector's market for these things, | 0:31:38 | 0:31:40 | |
and it is just such a good one. Yeah. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Very sought after. Good. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
I'm holding here, one of the great singles from The Beatles, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
from their very earliest days, "Please Please Me" | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
released in January 1963. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
But, do you know, somebody has defaced it and put "FT" on it. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
Who is FT? That was me. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
Ah, useless! | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
That was my name before I was married. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
And you were a Liverpool girl? I can hear the accent. I am, yes. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
And did you ever go and see The Beatles? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
I went every lunch hour with a group of friends | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
because I worked round the corner from where the original Cavern was. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
How amazing! And we used to go every lunch hour to see them, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
before they were really, really famous. Yes, yes. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
We must have been one of the first groupies. Amazing! | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Because we followed them round Liverpool, everywhere they went. Fantastic! | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
And it got to the stage that, when they saw us, they used to say, "Hello, girls, how are you?" | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Oh, fantastic! But, you know, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
the problem is, that not only has it been defaced on this side, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
but you turn it over, blow me down, it's been defaced on the other side! | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
Yeah, well.... But actually, this is a bit better, isn't it? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Because on the other side, it's been defaced | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
by the people you'd like to have it defaced by, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
which is all the boys in the band, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
and, in fact, Paul McCartney has signed it twice. He has. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Did you have to pay him with a kiss? | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
No, I didn't, but I was really very appreciative that he did that. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:09 | |
He was your favourite, was he? He was my favourite. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Does this bring back wonderful memories for you, in your heyday? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:18 | |
Stomping down the Cavern. Stomping down the Cavern, yes. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
It's worth something. Is it? Yes. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
Never really thought about it, it was just, it's a much-travelled... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
I've travelled all over the world, lived all over the world, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
and that's always come with me, no matter where I went, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
and I always made sure I knew where it was. Good job. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
Yes, we just thought, well... | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Recently, an early signed album fetched over ?10,000. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:46 | |
So I think your single could probably make around ?3,000. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
I thought it was worth about ?500! | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
You've got something which is what everybody else wants. Right. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
Good job you wrote your initials on it. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Yes, but they can't have it, it's mine! | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
Thanks very much indeed. Thank you. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
So what do you do with a pot like this? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
My mother believed it was a punch bowl. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
She doesn't really know much about it, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
she can remember it as a little girl. Yes. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
It's not a punch bowl, it's actually called a posset pot. Oh, right. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
A posset was a most extraordinary drink with curdled milk | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
and wine and stuff in it, horrible stuff. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
And you sucked it out of this spout. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
The spout is for sucking this dreadful drink out! Lovely. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
Supposed to make you better or well. But that's what it's for. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
And the date of it is going to be somewhere around about 1680-1690. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:53 | |
It's very old, then. Very, very old, very old, yes. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
The difficulty with these posset pots of that period, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
with this style of decoration, is whether they're English or Dutch. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
There's always arguments about this. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
The style of figures look a little bit Dutch, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
but I'm convinced they're English. Oh, right. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
And the trees are painted in a very traditionally English way. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
These are sponge trees, rather like children at school | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
drop a sponge in colour... Yes. ..and then dab it. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Dab it, yes. So these are all dabbed-on trees. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
Wonderful way of making a tree. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
And I think the whole thing is an English pot. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
It's had a hard life. A very hard life, very hard life! | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
It's in a body called Delftware, tin-glazed pottery, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
so underneath this tin glaze lies a brown earthenware body | 0:35:41 | 0:35:46 | |
which makes it look a bit like porcelain. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
The idea was make it look posher than it was. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
And then you painted it with these gorgeous paintings. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
I think very primitive, but wonderfully exciting painting. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
Unfortunately it has been considerably damaged. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
There are rivets on it. There are, yes, it's held together with rivets. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
These rivets hold cracks together. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
A wonderful process of repairing pots in the days before good glues, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
you had to rivet. Drilled tiny holes and pulled a little metal rivet, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
into the crack, and then you clamped it together, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
and it stayed like that for evermore. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
I mean, those rivets are probably 18th century. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
A safety pin for crockery then, really. I know! Absolutely wonderful. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
If it had been perfect without cracks and chips and damage, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
I suppose I would have to put it to around about ?3,000-?4,000. Mm-hm. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
But it has been a sad wreck. I know. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
But still, as a wreck, I think it's still worth | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
about ?800 to ?1,000. Right, thank you. That's very nice. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
Which is jolly nice. Thank you. Yes, for something that's as old as it is, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
it's done very well. Yes. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
Sometimes our visitors have a little bit of a wait to see our experts. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
There's quite a queue here. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
You walk along and see some fascinating things... | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
CHILD SINGS ..or hear some fascinating things. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
Hello, chappie! Connor, Connor, say hello. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
Hello! I can hear you all the way back there. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
I should imagine so. What's this? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
It's a blackjack, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
it's a tankard, I think, that was made from Oliver Cromwell's war horse. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
Made from Oliver Cromwell's war horse! How amazing. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
And you've got the provenance | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
so you know that it was from Cromwell's horse? Yeah, yeah. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
Our experts will love to see it. Yes, yes. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
And enjoy the singing as well! Yeah, lovely, yes. Great. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
CONNOR SINGS HAPPILY Thank you. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
Do you normally have these on your sideboard filled with something sustaining? No. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
We have them on our sideboard without anything in them. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Well, that's probably why they're not stained! THEY LAUGH | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
Do you know where they come from? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Well, I inherited them from a doctor who worked for the China Inland Mission. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
He was a neighbour and a good friend. That's fantastic. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
I don't really know more about them than that, which is why I'm here! | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
Do you like them? I love them. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
What we've got is quite thinly blown glass. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:22 | |
These are very light in weight, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
much lighter than I might have expected | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
for glass of this date, which is about 1865-75. Mm-hm. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:33 | |
Let's start at the back on this one, and one has a wreath of thistles | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
and immediately you think "Scotland". Yeah. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
And turn it round, and indeed | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
we've got Scots of one sort or another, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
led by a woman, beating the bejesus out of each other. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
They've killed this man, or she's killed this man. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
I don't know what this scene is. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
It may be from Walter Scott's novels, Sir Walter Scott. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
It would not be difficult to find out. Why Scotland? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
Because of Balmoral. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:12 | |
Albert had gone up there, built Balmoral to a great castle, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
loved by him and Queen Victoria. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
So all things Scottish had suddenly become de rigueur, really. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
And I'm sure that's what this is a reflection of. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:29 | |
The other one... Slightly odd. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
We have on the back... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
a spider spinning a web with ivy leaves. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Mm-hm. Now, the ivy, of course, is poisonous. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:45 | |
So we've got two symbols, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
maybe death-related. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
And here we've got a figure of either night, | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
or possibly Death, | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
taking the soul away, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
which I find rather curious subject matter to have on a decanter. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
Where were they made? | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
They could be Scottish, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
they could be Ford of Edinburgh, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
but I think they were probably made in Stourbridge, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
which is just outside Birmingham, by Stevens and Williams. Yes. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
They were wonderful quality glass engravers. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
They're not a pair, so let's look at them separately. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
This one I think would probably make | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
around ?1,500 to ?1,800. Really? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
And that one, probably a bit more, ?1,800 to ?2,500. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
They're really very nice objects. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
Keep them out of the way of the grandchildren. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
Or my cat, which wrote off a ?1,000 teapot the day before yesterday. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
Ohhhh! Yes. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
It's still alive, but only just! LAUGHTER | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
At school, the one person we all learned about was Oliver Cromwell. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
You ask anyone, that's who they learned about. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
It's unusual and unbelievably exciting | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
to have Cromwell's name round the top of this jug. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
I mean, tell me about it. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:10 | |
Well, from what I understand, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
it was deposited into my family's bank, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
which is Hoare Bank in Fleet Street, in London, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
and from there the last person I know to have it | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
was my grandad's father, which is a Wilfred Hoare. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
When he passed away, he left it to my grandfather | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
and he left that to my father, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
so that's actually come from the Hoare Bank in Fleet Street in London. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Jacks like this, as they're called, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
presumably you know what they're for. Yeah, ale jugs. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
Exactly, and they would have been made | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
as one of a set of ten or 15, or something like that. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
But to have his name, Cromwell's name, | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Lord Protector of England, Scotland and Ireland... | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
and he actually became Lord Protector in 1653. Right. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
So it's possibly made for the party of that event. Mm. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
Great, you've also got his crest. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
I mean, is it something you like? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
Yeah, I quite like it, yeah. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
And the construction being leather. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Yeah, from what I understand, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
it was actually made from the war horse that Cromwell used to ride, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
so when the horse died, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
they had this jug made. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:23 | |
Um... The great thing about this is obviously, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:28 | |
Cromwell, one of the most controversial political | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
and military figures in English history. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
I mean, really, defeated the Royalists during the Civil War, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
turning England to a republican state for a short time. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
It's got everything you need. And as a jug, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
or a jack, I mean, it's an exciting thing. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
And really, it would have a good value. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
?3,000, ?5,000, something like that. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Mm-hm. Yeah. But with this connection, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
with Cromwell, I would have thought | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
Yeah. CROWD GASP | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
Good beer money. I'll have to fill that up with beer then, I think! | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
Exactly! Well, it's the most exciting thing I've seen in years. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
Imagine what historic moments that beer jack could have witnessed. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:20 | |
I started the programme driving a tank, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
and I thought it couldn't get much better than that. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
But now I've moved up in the world, I'm in an armoured car. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
And not just any armoured car, a Rolls Royce armoured car! | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
From Lulworth Castle and the whole Antiques Roadshow team, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
The knives are sharpened and the heat is on. It can only mean one thing. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
I've never, ever seen that! | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
Britain's best chefs are back in town. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 |