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On first glance, this doesn't look | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
like much - a scrap of paper | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
and some dried petals - | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
but when I tell you | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
that it's a poppy picked from | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
the Flanders battlefield in 1917 | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
and sent by a wounded soldier | 0:00:12 | 0:00:14 | |
to a loved one at home, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
it becomes a poignant and evocative | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
witness to the First World War. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:19 | |
Such small pieces speak loudly | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
about the courage, loss and heroism of conflict. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
In this programme, we're about to hear some remarkable untold stories | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
of lives overshadowed by war. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Welcome to a special edition of The Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
from the National Memorial Arboretum. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
Last year, we appealed for stories | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
of sacrifice and service in the face of war, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
and that triggered hundreds of responses from viewers, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
eager to share their families' accounts. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
These aren't stories of military commanders. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
Instead, we're focusing on often unpublished yet significant actions | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
of men and women on the front line and on the home front, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
whose lives were changed for ever by their wartime experiences. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
We can share a few of those with you tonight. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
Our backdrop is the National Memorial Arboretum, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
near Lichfield in Staffordshire, which was opened ten years ago. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Part of the Royal British Legion, it's a living tribute | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
to those who've lost their lives in conflicts | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
since the beginning of the 20th century. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
At the centre is the striking Armed Forces Memorial, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
a tribute to all the men and women who've died | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
since the end of the Second World War. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
There are 16,000 names here | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
and that number's still growing. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
When you see all these names | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
so beautifully carved here, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
you get just a sense of the scale of the loss of life - | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
it's almost overwhelming - and people travel | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
from all over the country to come here. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Often they have no grave to visit, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
but they can come and see the names of loved ones on the wall. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
We've only time to feature a fraction of the wider story | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
depicted here, but our small team of experts, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Graham Lay, Paul Atterbury, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
Hilary Kay and Bill Harriman, are here to meet our invited guests | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
for this special Remembrance edition of The Antiques Roadshow. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
This is one of the most fantastic groups of medals | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
that it's ever been my privilege to record on The Antiques Roadshow, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
and I'm guessing that this is the recipient, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
and can you tell me about him? | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
He was my mother's first cousin. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
He was relatively old at the beginning of the war. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
He joined the Army, who kicked him out because he'd got flat feet, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
and so he went and joined the Navy and became... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
-They didn't mind flat feet, then? -No, no, apparently not. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
And he became a naval mine disposal officer. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
As you know, it's a pretty hairy occupation. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-Yes. -And it earned him his George Cross. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
I can tell from this group that he must have been an extremely | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-distinguished mine disposal officer. -Yes, he was. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Here we have what is often known as the Civilian's Victoria Cross, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
the George Cross, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
and also, remarkably, with it, the George Medal, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
two of the highest accolades for gallantry - | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
that isn't in the face of the enemy - that the country can bestow. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
You have to do exceptional things just to get one, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
but to get two... So, what did he do? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
Well, I was going to say, "take mines to pieces"! | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
But the George Cross, in his citation, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
it was one of those mines | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
with a delayed fuse that ticks, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
and it was damaged, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and as soon as he started working on it - | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
he had to pick the remains of the mechanism out with his fingers - | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
-the thing started ticking again. -Oh! | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
And he just had time to - as he described to me - | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
dive into his trench, before it blew up. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
-And fortunately for him, he was under the blast. -Yes. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
And it blew his eardrums out and he was pretty shaken by it. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:58 | |
I'm not surprised! | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
They're not exactly small things, are they, mines? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
We can actually see one here, a huge sphere, packed with explosives. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
-And he was mere yards away from it when it went up. -Absolutely. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
This must have been some time in 1942, I would guess. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
For me, as a little boy who was about five then, I remember | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
being deeply impressed because he could blow smoke out of both ears. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Yes, that would have impressed me as a little boy as well, I have to say! | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Well, I think it's lucky that a lot more wasn't fractured, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
and I think more to the point, it's very lucky that he managed to defuse | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
these mines, because they caused huge problems, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
mainly with civilian morale, and jobs like this were so important | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
because they knew that once the air raid had gone, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
there would be somebody there, sweeping up the nasties | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
that had been left, ticking away. So that's obviously why he was given | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
these two very, very, important awards. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I've said that this is the most fantastic group of medals | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
that it's ever been my privilege to see on the Roadshow. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Have you ever thought what the value of it might be? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Well, vaguely, but... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
Obviously, you can't put a monetary value | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
on the sheer naked courage of somebody who sits on an explosive | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
and twiddles around with the fuse, knowing that any minute, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
he might be spread into atoms. But it has a commercial value, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
particularly in the current market, which is very, very buoyant. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
And I can see that if those were put to auction, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
being, as we know, only one of eight known groupings of these | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
two medals, I can see that making £100,000. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Good God! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
They're not for sale, I'm afraid. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Oh, I'm sure that Uncle Geoffrey would be very, very pleased to know | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
that all these years afterwards, people thought so much | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
of the tokens that he was given for such gallant work | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-and I'm humbled to see them, absolutely humbled. -Delighted. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Anyone interested in the history of the First World War as I am, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
inevitably thinks about the Royal Flying Corps, what it was like, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:04 | |
those extraordinary experiences of aerial fights in that period. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
This really takes me straight into it - you know, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
here is one of those great moments. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
Two German Albatrosses, an RE8 about to be in great trouble, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
and of course that great hero - or whatever he is - the Red Baron. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
-Yes, that's right. -So, is there a background to this? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
My father started at the beginning of the war. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
He volunteered to join, he'd just left school | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
and he was going to Cambridge, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
but he decided that he should serve his country. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
Just out of patriotism? | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-Yes, literally. And... -It was his duty. -He was an 18-year-old. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
18, at that point. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
When he got his commission, they just asked if he'd like | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
to join the Royal Flying Corps, which was a newly developed thing. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
He thought that would be great. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
Anyway, he loved flying, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
he only had 55 minutes - according to his log book - | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
dual control, before he was allowed to go up on his own, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
which was amazing. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
-I think it's an insight into how it was, because we were very short of pilots. -Yes. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:03 | |
At that point in the war, the aeroplane still wasn't taken very seriously. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
And people were just flung up into the air, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
they had no parachutes, aeroplanes were very easily destroyed, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-they burst into flames very quickly. -That's right. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
And so death was very, very quick and very unpleasant. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
And I think that the life expectancy at the worst | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
was something like two weeks. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:22 | |
-Terrible, isn't it? Yes. -But he came through. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
He came through, yes. He was lucky, but he was also a very skilful pilot. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
-This is him, presumably. -Yes, yes. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
-Gosh, he looks young, doesn't he? -He was young. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
He was awarded the MC by the King and heard somebody whisper, "Doesn't he look young?" | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-Well, they all were. -He was very young, yes. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
So we've got two pictures of him here. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
-Are these his, as well? -Yes, this is his actual helmet and one of the goggles. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
So, tell me about this moment of drama. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Well, he'd already prepared what he would do. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Usually, the English planes rushed for home and they were shot down, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
so he decided that he wouldn't do that. He would rush for home | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
a little way, but when they got close enough, he'd turn the plane | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
and go into the middle of them. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
But the Red Baron chased him and was shooting him hard, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
so he put himself into a spin, which was a very dangerous thing to do, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
and managed to pull out | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
and the Red Baron thought he'd got him, and had flown away. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-But he lived to tell the tale. -He did. -So many didn't. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
The Red Baron was an extraordinary phenomenon, Von Richthofen, he was such a skilled pilot. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
And in fact, in the end, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
he was killed on 21st April 1918, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
and it's thought he was actually shot down by ground fire, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-not by the attacking aeroplanes. -Really? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
-And it was the end of the legend. -Yes. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
But of course, this image is | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
so lively about what it must have been like, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
and looking at it, as I did, at the beginning, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
I thought - that aeroplane has had it, it's full of holes. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
It never flew again when he got it back. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
-But he did. That's the key thing. -He did, yes. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Did he commission this painting? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
He did, yes. He explained exactly how it was. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
And Ralph Gillies Cole captured that moment. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
The painting is a great image, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
it's a wonderful evocation of First World War flying. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
-I don't know what he paid for it in 1979 when he commissioned it, do you? -No idea. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
It's probably worth £500-£800, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
-something like that, as a painting. -Yes. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Helmets, goggles, they're worth £200 or £300. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
A propeller tip as a photograph frame was actually quite well known | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
at the time, again, you're looking at £50, £80, £100 for the item. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
-But this is not to do with the story. -No. -No. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
It is about taking us into those extraordinary days when people | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
lived extraordinary lives and frequently died in a horrible way. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-But he came through. -Yes. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
-His star was watching him. Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
When we recorded this programme, back in September, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
I met an extraordinary woman, Zdenka Fantlova, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
who brought us our smallest item, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
which represents the darkest episode of the Second World War. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
Zdenka, yours is an incredible story | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
of survival against the odds. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
You were 19 when you were taken to Terezine Concentration Camp, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
or Theresienstadt as it's known. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
You were then taken... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
You survived six different camps... | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
-Yes. -..ending up at Belsen. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
The first camp, Terezine, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
you survived there because of love. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Is that right? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:28 | |
The whole war is because of love, from beginning to the end. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:34 | |
Now, tell me about that. Love of whom? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Because when you are 19, you take it seriously, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
your boyfriend is the whole interest in your life and he was there. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:44 | |
But very early in the time, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
he was shipped to the East by a transport, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
and this was almost deadly because nobody knew where the people went. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
Before the transport, he made his way to the women's camp... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
..brought a ring... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Now, this is the ring here. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
..which he made himself. I don't know how. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
-It's terribly fine. -He engraved it with his name, Arno, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
13th of June, 1942. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
Slipped it on my finger and said, "This is our engagement ring, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
"it will protect you, and if we survive the war, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
"I'll find you somewhere". | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Kissed me and was out of the door and gone. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
This ring for me was a symbol of love and hope, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:41 | |
and I was absolutely determined - | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
it doesn't matter what comes, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
I'll have to survive so that we can meet again | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
and live together for ever. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
That was, you know, that was this idea. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
But he didn't survive, did he? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
No. I didn't know that, only after the war. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
He was one of the transports... | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
Thousand young men up to 30, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
taken to Poland, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
lined up and machine-gunned. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
And he risked his life to make this ring. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Yes, and me, too. Because it was not allowed - | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
this was against the rules to have anything, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
ring or earrings or anything, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
you have to give it up, and I had to hide it. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
And when I came to Auschwitz, there was a girl | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
who had an engagement ring under the tongue, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
they took her away and she lost her life. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
And I had it on my finger and somebody said, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
"For heaven's sake, take it away, because a piece of metal | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
"has no value, just throw it away". | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
And I knew I can't throw it away, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
I would have lost the ground under my feet. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
And I put it under my tongue as well, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
was determined - put my life on the line, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
so that come what may... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
We've got a picture of Arno here. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:58 | |
-Is this him, here? -That's right. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
That was just prior to being taken to the camps. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
-So that's you and him together? -Yes, yes. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
And you know, promise of loving and living together for ever - | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
you know how it is. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
But for me it was very important. Nothing else mattered. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
At the end of the war, you ended up in the infamous Belsen camp... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
..where so many, many people died. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
And when it was liberated - when the British soldiers came to Belsen - | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
you were in a barrack which was right at the end of the camp, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
-away from where the British soldiers were. -Yes. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
And you thought that even though the camp had been liberated, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
you would die there. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
I never thought I would die, it never occurred to me. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
You were close to death, though. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
I was skin and bones, and 20,000 corpses lying around me | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
and I never thought I'd be one of them. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
And yet, I could have been. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
And it was the last moment, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
a line between life and death when you feel you're going, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
and then the member of the British Army appeared | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
and he saved my life. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Tell me about that. What happened? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
Because he... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
wanted me to stay where I was, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
and I said, "I can't," and I spoke the language. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
You spoke English to him. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
And asked him if he can't leave me there, he should shoot me, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
it would be quicker. And he suddenly changed, you know, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
the whole face changed, like in a film. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
He was a human. And he said, "All right, stay here | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
"and I'll come in the morning and pick you up," and I believed him | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
and he did come. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
He put me in a sheet, pushed me | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
in between four stretchers in a military ambulance and off we went. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:54 | |
And all I had - my naked life and the ring on a string on my neck. | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
It was all I had. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:01 | |
And he saved my life, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
and I never had a chance to say thank you because he disappeared. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
And after the war, I lived in Australia, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
there was no chance looking for him, and at least, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
this opportunity, I would like to say thank you, wherever he is. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
Well, I mean, it sounds like if he hadn't intervened, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
that would have been it. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
That would have been it. One of the many. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
But now I live another life | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
and I'm grateful for every single day. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Of all the gardens and memorials here, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
I think this has to be the most poignant. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
We're in the eastern woodland, where next to a tribute | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
to the Royal Army Medical Corps sits this moving reminder | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
of an uncomfortable aspect of the First World War. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
It's called Shot At Dawn and it commemorates over 300 British | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
and Commonwealth soldiers who were shot for desertion or cowardice. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
It's a sad reflection of the desperation of war, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
particularly when you think that many of them were underage | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
when they volunteered, just boys. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
In 2006, they were all posthumously pardoned | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
after a long and vigorous campaign by their descendants. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
And it's a fitting backdrop for our next story. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
Well, we're standing here, in front of what, for many years, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
some people have felt a very controversial memorial. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Why have you brought us here? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Because that man proves that this is the right thing to do. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
My dear Uncle Frank, Frank Handley Ridgwell, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
was condemned to death on the 10th February 1916 | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
for allegedly sleeping on duty. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
He had done a second sentry duty for a sick friend, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
a young officer inspected him, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
claimed that he was asleep. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
He was given a ten-minute court martial, sentenced to death. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
No defence counsel. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
It took a fortnight for that sentence to be confirmed, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
he was given back his rifle, sent back to the front | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
knowing he might be shot by the enemy, or his own people behind him. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
That sentence was commuted to five years' penal servitude. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
He worked off that five-year penal servitude | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
by extraordinary bravery at the front, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
for which he received a certificate of honour from his regiment. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
He was shot twice - once through his left breast pocket by his pay book, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
through the photograph of his sister, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
my dear Auntie Cis, who I was brought up next to - there's the bullet hole - | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and once through his other tunic pocket, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
where the bullet bounced off his cigarette case. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
He then served with great distinction. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
He was captured by the enemy, ill treated in prison, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
escaped, was protected by Belgian citizens, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
whom he loved dearly for it, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
made his way to the coast, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:49 | |
was arrested by the British authorities as a deserter - | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
his pay book proved that he wasn't - | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
and he was shipped home in uniform | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
and was discharged as the private he began. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
-Good grief. What an extraordinary career! -He was 24. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
And there's the record of his actual sentencing, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
of the commuting of that sentence | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
and of the wiping off of that sentence, all in a few lines. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
How did you feel when you found out, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
presumably as young man, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
that your uncle had been... | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Immensely proud of him. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
The fact that he had been convicted of cowardice? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
No, of sleeping. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
As I knew him, I knew that couldn't be right. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
The critical thing to bear in mind, if I may say so, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
is that sentences to death increased rapidly before every great campaign. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
-Of course. -This was the General Staff | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
strengthening the resolve of what were called the poor bloody infantry. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
-And this was as a deterrent, wasn't it? -Of course. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
That man was sentenced to death three months before the Battle of the Somme began, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
in which he served with great distinction. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Now, during his very brief trial... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Yes. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
..if it can be called a trial - presumably he... | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
I know you said he wasn't represented by legal... | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
-That's the evidence of all these trials. -He didn't even have | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-a soldier's friend? -I gather not. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Well, he may have done, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
but frankly, if I may be blunt, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
it was the word of a young officer against a grocer's assistant. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
I see. So you think it might have been a class aspect? | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
Oh, I'm sure it was, I'm sure it was, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
and I would venture to suggest | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
that most of these extraordinary young men | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
were the victims of a military class system as well. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
If I had a fraction of his courage, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
I'd be a very fortunate man. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
The unveiling of new memorials is a regular feature at the arboretum. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
On the day we visited, His Royal Highness the Duke of York, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
in his role as Colonel in Chief of the Yorkshire Regiment, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
was there for a dedication ceremony. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Your Royal Highness, this is a fitting place to talk to you, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
given your role and your service in the armed forces. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
I've seen some of the names from the Falklands campaign. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Of course you, as everyone will know, were in the Falklands, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
so it must have poignancy for you, seeing the names of people you knew. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
It does, and it brings back the sorts of thoughts | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
that one was going through then. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
I mean, there was huge anxiety of what it was. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
Were we doing the right thing? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
And of course, we were going to recover British territory. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
But it's a memory now, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and this is what's so weird. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I mean, it's going to be 30 years next year. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
That's an awfully long time ago, but it's still very fresh as a memory, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
if you understand what I mean, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
and I always think about the people who I was serving with. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
There was great camaraderie about what we were doing. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
There are moments of... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
hilarity that I remember. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
We were under one missile attack one day | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
when a friend of mine and I | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
were trying to fix, or finish, a Rubik's cube. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
Those were the days when this cube thing, you know... | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
-I remember it very well! -You remember it very well. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And just as the missile attack was taking place, we completed it, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
and we were told everybody had to lie on the floor, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
because on deck, we had to take cover. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
And we were lying on the deck with a completed Rubik's cube between us, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
and I always thought, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
I wonder what people would think | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
if something ghastly had happened and we'd been hit | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
and all they'd found was two bodies and a Rubik's cube. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Small things like that stick in one's mind. So, I mean, it's remarkable, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:45 | |
and it brought home to me how fragile we are as a human being. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
How important is it, do you think, to have a place like this | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
of national remembrance? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
I think it's very important, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
because we remember on Remembrance Sunday, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
or on 11th November every year, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
those that have died in the service of their country, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
but actually, there's more to it than that. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
There's more about actually allowing | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
those who have lost friends and loved ones | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
to be able to come somewhere | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
where they can know that they are never forgotten. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
-Your Royal Highness, thank you very much. -You're very welcome. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
This very interesting collection of objects clearly relates | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
to the conflict in the Falklands. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
Yes, Glamorgan was in the thick of the action | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
from the very first day. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
And on 12th June, just two days before the surrender, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
Glamorgan was ordered to go inshore to support 45 Commando | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
in their attack upon the Two Sisters Ridge. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
But 45 Commando took longer than anticipated to take the mountain. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
The Navy is not in the business of leaving soldiers in the lurch, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
so we stayed on the gun line until 45 Commando had completed. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
We then started to hurry back towards the aircraft carriers | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
and I saw, at eight miles, coming from what I thought was Eliza Cove, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
a fast-moving contact which I interpreted as an Exocet missile. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
-You were navigating officer. -Navigator on the bridge. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
And about 20, 30 seconds later, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
I saw the faintest of blips coming from the land. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
It wasn't there the next sweep, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
and my heart breathed a sigh of relief, and then the next sweep | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
there was a firm echo and the next sweep another firm echo, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
and in my heart of hearts | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I just knew it was an Exocet missile. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
And so I gave the order "Starboard 35", a pre-planned manoeuvre | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
to turn the quickest way, to take it at a ten-degree inclination, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
to try to bounce it off the ship's side. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
But we hadn't completed the turn, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
and we were heeling at 14 degrees, and you can see... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
This is the actual bridge clinometer, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-which is at the moment set at 14 degrees. -That's at 14 degrees. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
And presumably that's quite an amount of heel, is it? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
That's really a significant amount of heel, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and that lowered the ship's side just enough | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
so the missile just clipped the upper deck | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
and then skidded along the upper deck whilst being deflected upwards. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
It exploded just short of the hangar | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and blew a large hole in the upper deck | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
and a hole in the next deck down, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
and the missile body went through the hangar door | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
into the fully fuelled and fully armed helicopter, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
which promptly blew up. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
We were the only ship to survive being hit. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Turning the ship gave the damage-control teams | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
the chance to save the ship. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
And they need all the credit they can get. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
But, sadly, we lost 14 members of our ship's company. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
But it could have been so much worse. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
-How many men in the company? -Just under 500. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
The Argentine marine who actually pressed the fire button | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
on the Exocet launcher, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
he contacted the HMS Glamorgan website and apologised, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
and I responded to his contact | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
and said he doesn't have to apologise | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
because he was doing his duty, just as we were doing ours. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
And I went out to Argentina a few years ago with my wife | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
and I met Jose in Rosario, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
and he was a very nice man, nice family, and... | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
-So you bear him no ill will? -No ill will, whatsoever, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
because, you know... It's the politicians I'm not so keen on. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
But I have a great respect for the Argentine service personnel, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
who did their duty. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Well, I think one of our themes today is remembrance, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
but I think the sub-theme that you've brought out from that, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-that's just as important, is reconciliation. -Yes. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-No point in winning the war if you can't win the peace. -I'll drink to that. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
We're standing in an area of the arboretum today | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
that relates to the Far East, prisoners of war, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
and we're standing in front of | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
a section of the Burma-Thailand railway. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
You've also brought along | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
this Japanese sword | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
which, from the covering of the scabbard, relates to the Second World War. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
It can't be yours, because you're not old enough. So whose was it? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
This was brought back by my father, Captain Charles MacDonald, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
from Burma, where he was a Japanese prisoner of war. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And why was he a prisoner? Why was he taken prisoner? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Well, he volunteered to go into Burma behind the enemy lines, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
for the second Wingate expedition, which was going to liberate Burma, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
and he led a nine-man patrol | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
which was to live off the land and gather information | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
which would be fed back, which would help the British re-invade Burma. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
Because they were living off the land, they were short of food, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
and they went into a Burmese village for supplies. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
They were told to come back the next day. My father was suspicious. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
He thought they were being set up. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Indeed they were - as he and his sergeant and an Indian soldier | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
went into the village to get supplies, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
a machine gun opened up on them at very close range. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
And my father went to the ground, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
the Indian soldier and the sergeant ran into the jungle. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
My father then charged the machine-gun nest, threw a grenade, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
and the last thing the Indian soldier saw of him | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
was him falling down to the ground with a cry, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
and so he had apparently been killed in action. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
And was that reported back? | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
That was reported back, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
and so for five months my mother thought that he had been killed in action. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
And then it started to filter through that perhaps he had survived, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
he may have been wounded, possibly a prisoner of war, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
and by that time he was in Rangoon jail at the southern end of Burma. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
Now, you've brought one or two other objects. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Who does this show? | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
That's my father and mother on their wedding day, Boxing Day 1940. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
They got married very quickly because he was being sent overseas, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
and she didn't see him for another five years! | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
-Five years! -Five years. Can you imagine it? | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
And what's this little... luggage label? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
I think this is the most poignant. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
My mother received this a few months after he'd disappeared, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
-which simply says "Kit of a deceased officer"... -Oh, my goodness. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
..which is pretty final. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
I wonder how she would have coped with thinking he had been killed. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
I think she was an amazingly tough character, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
and I think she hoped against hope | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
he would survive, that he'd be protected by God in some way, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
and of course, indeed he was. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
And you've also brought along this postcard. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
Yes, this is remarkable. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
I think her first knowledge that he was still alive | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
came in a short press cutting in the paper | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
about his lone attack on the Japanese position. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
And the very next day she sent this postcard, via the Red Cross. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
-And what does it say? -Well, amazing. "Darling, first card to you. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
"All overjoyed at news after five months missing. Have faith. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
"You're in my heart always." | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT I'm afraid I get a bit choked! | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
-I can see, I can see. -"All my love, Mary." | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
But, I mean, this is amazing history, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
absolutely extraordinary history, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
and, you know, you can imagine, | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
it's so sort of straightforward. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
There's clearly great love, but it had to be written in capital letters, | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
you could only have a certain number of words, and she had to convey... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
her overpowering sense of happiness and relief that he'd survived. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
He was the very first Far East prisoner of war | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
to arrive back in this country. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
He was only eight stone, and he was a bigger frame than me. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
And my mother, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
I suppose probably rather proudly, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
marched down Oxford Street with him, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
and it stopped the traffic. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
-Stopped the traffic? -It did. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
People were so horrified, because they'd never seen anything like this. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
I have to say that this is one of the stories today | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
that has really moved me personally. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
It really has. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
Christopher Wren said, "I build for eternity," | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
and St Paul's Cathedral, perhaps, during the Second World War, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
became an icon that focused the nation's pride, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
particularly during the Blitz period, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
and civilians were incredibly important | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
in preserving St Paul's during that time. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
Tell me about somebody who was involved. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
My grandfather, Alfred Henry Sharr, had joined St Paul's Cathedral | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
as a maintenance man in 1935, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
but coming up to the beginning of 1939, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
the Dean and Chapter said that, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
with war imminent, they had to try and protect St Paul's as best as possible. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
Didn't Winston Churchill say | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
that St Paul's must be protected at all costs? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
That came in 1940 during the Blitz | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
because there were so many near misses. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
A bomb had hit near the south tower | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
and gone down some 90 feet before they managed to dig it out. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
-My goodness. -But my grandfather was part of the team that became | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
St Paul's Watch, and they ended up with some 280 people. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
Their main tasks were to guard against incendiaries, bombs, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
act as fire watchers. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
-They were all volunteers. -They were indeed. -All civilians. -Yes. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
And here is an image of your grandfather | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
actually abseiling down the dome of St Paul's! | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
I can't see much evidence of health and safety. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
I think it was invented just after that photograph. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Perhaps BECAUSE of this photograph! | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
I suppose that the most famous incident | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
which involved an attack, really, on London | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
was that night of 29th December, that extraordinary Blitzkrieg, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
when 100,000 incendiary bombs like this... | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
-This is an incendiary bomb? -Still with its fuse in. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Still got its fuse in, but nothing else, one presumes. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
And these were dropped in clusters, so they created absolute havoc, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
and there was a firestorm on that night. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
That was the big raid | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
when they considered they were after St Paul's Cathedral. It was iconic. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
You're right, Churchill had decreed that it must be saved at all costs. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
At that point, they put in far more firefighters | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
into St Paul's, they put hoses on ropes to pull them up into the dome | 0:33:22 | 0:33:28 | |
so they could fight fires. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:29 | |
And that night was the night of the spring tide, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
the lowest tide on the Thames, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
hence they couldn't get the water out of the Thames to fight any fires. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
And I suppose if there's one image that sums up | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
St Paul's and its position | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
as a survivor... | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
it is this picture taken by Herbert Mason. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
It was taken the morning after 29th December, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
on the morning of 30th December, | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
with St Paul's caught in the first ray of the rising sun. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
And there was a huge discussion about this. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Would it serve to inspire the people or to depress them? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
And it wasn't printed until the following day, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
on 31st December, because it was decided | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
that actually it embodied the spirit of Londoners | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
to survive the Blitz. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-And Christopher Wren was right - he did build for eternity. -Indeed. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
Meet Whacker. He's probably the oddest object we've seen today. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
He's a mascot for a bombing crew during the Second World War, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
and he was actually injured in action himself. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
Look, he's got a shrapnel hole here | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
and on the back, a swastika for every bombing raid the crew went on. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
Now, lots of people wrote in to us about mascots. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
I think one of the most unusual | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
is your story of a mascot, Robin, and it was a cat. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
A cat called Pyro, who was the pet cat of my father, Bob Bird, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
and they served together in a secret wing of the RAF | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
called the Experimental Seaplane Research Centre at Helensburgh. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
-Taking reconnaissance pictures? -Pictures of flying boats, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
such things as the Barnes Wallis bouncing bomb and ways of sinking U-boats. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
And where did Pyro the cat come into it all? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Pyro wandered into the base and made a home in the darkroom, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
and Bob didn't see it there | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
and actually nearly cut its tail off when he closed a sliding glass door. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
And this is Bob and the cat, here, is it? | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
This is Bob and the cat. Bob took it to the medical officer, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
who repaired the cat's tail, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
and they became friends. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:50 | |
The cat used to follow Bob, so Bob took him flying with him, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
in the flying jacket. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
-And this is his flying jacket here. -It is. To keep Bob warm | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and as a lucky mascot to chase the gremlins away. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
So everything worked smoothly when Pyro was in the plane. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Until one day, when Bob was flying at 20,000 feet in extreme cold, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:09 | |
and he was changing his camera lens and his fingers froze to the camera. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
Bob took his fingers off the camera, but they were frostbitten. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
And he warmed them on Pyro, and when he was hospitalised afterwards, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
the medical officer said, "Pyro's repaid his debt. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
"You saved his tail and he saved your fingers." | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
My goodness! Air crews were superstitious. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
They were flying in such dangerous circumstances, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
and these mascots became terribly important to them. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
All the crew welcomed him, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
even though he shouldn't have been there, really. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Pyro was the even more secret bit of the secret wing. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
He was sworn to secrecy. He never spoke about his war, Pyro. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
-Kept his lips firmly sealed. -He did. -Quite right. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
This is the photograph of a very young man. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Who is he and how old was he? | 0:36:59 | 0:37:00 | |
He's my grandad and his name was Edward, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
or Teddy, and he is 19, roughly, in that photo. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:07 | |
And what was his war? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
His war, really, was... | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
He had quite a safe job, and I know that he was doing | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
some engineering on aircraft | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
and doing things around England, based around England. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
So in the 1940s, in the middle of the Second World War, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
-he was ground crew. -That's correct. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
And he then put himself forward, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
because he realised they were losing lots of air crew | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
and that they needed more men. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
He felt that he needed to do his duty and help win this war. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
-So what did he do? -He volunteered | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
as an air gunner, and he did this in secret, without my nan knowing. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
-So he volunteered. -He volunteered. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
And when we talk about going into the bombers as a gunner, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
that was THE most dangerous job, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
whether you were a rear gunner or wherever it was. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
You were very, very easily picked off | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
by the Messerschmitts or whoever was defending the target. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
It was my nan's nightmare. And they'd discussed it, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
and she said that was the one thing that she was afraid of him doing. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
So this is a photograph | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
-of your grandfather Teddy and your nan on their wedding. -Yes. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Maisie and Teddy | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
on their wedding day. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
The entries in the logbook finish in 1942. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
-Yes. -What happened? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
He was shot down in a Halifax with the rest of his crew. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
-So all the crew were... -All the crew were dead, yes. -Extraordinary. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
And there are the terrible formal letters that come through, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
advising, you know, "Lost in action, presumed killed", | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
and then a confirmation that he was in fact known to be killed, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
not just missing. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
But then what about this? What is this? | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
It's the letter he left, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
explaining to my nan why he felt he had to put himself forward, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:59 | |
that would go to her in case anything happened. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
I can tell you that, holding this in my hands, actually, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
the hair on the back of my neck is rising, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
because this, to me, is an incredibly powerful document. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
Now, this letter has been obviously treasured and loved, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
and it starts... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
It's dated 2nd May 1942, written in Croft, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
which was where he was based then, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
and it starts, "Dearest, it's now 7pm." | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
And I'd like you to take the story up. I don't know if I can read it. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
-I'll try. -You try. -I'll try. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
So, you've got it transcribed there. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Read a little bit out to me. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
"When you read this letter, one of two things would probably have happened. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:46 | |
"Either I shall be home, off operations, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
"or I shall be missing. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
"That is why I want to write this letter, dearest. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
"Now this is where I have to confess to deceiving you, darling. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
"I've never done it before, and I hope | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
"I never will have to do it again. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
"I hope you understand..." | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Sorry. "..but I couldn't help it. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
"The main thing was | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
"that I didn't say what aircraft I was flying in. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
"Well, they were the big, four-engined Halifaxes. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
"Understand, darling, I was to fly over Germany | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
"of a night and also sometimes of a day. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
"It was the one thing you dreaded, wasn't it? | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
"That was the reason I didn't tell you. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
"I hadn't the heart, darling. I love you too much. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
"At the moment, there are only two months to go | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
"before our baby comes into this world. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
"If you do happen to get this letter in unhappy circumstances... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
"..which I pray to God you won't, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
"remember, darling, unhappy moments often turn into happy ones, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
"and never give up hope. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
"Remember, don't give up, and keep your chin up, darling. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
"Au revoir - not goodbye - beloved. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
"Yours, with all my love, my dearest, Teddy." | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
Sorry. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
Sorry. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
That's quite some letter. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
There's not really much more one can say about that, actually. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
We've only really read a part of it, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
-because it is an incredibly powerful document. -It is, yes. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
Um, and it's all about... | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
-the ones that are left behind. -Yes. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
It's...incredibly powerful stuff, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
and I'm very, very moved | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
and delighted that you've been able | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
-to share it with us. -Thank you for allowing me. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
I should think just about every family has a link | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
to someone who is commemorated here at the arboretum. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
And incidentally, it's open every day, except Christmas Day, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
and entrance is free. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:24 | |
Before we go, I just want to share one more | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
evocative item that's been brought along today with you. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:30 | |
It's a telex | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
that was sent on V-J Day, Victory over Japan Day, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
15th August, 1945. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
It says, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:40 | |
"Most immediate, all concerned home and abroad, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
"splice the mainbrace." | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
It was sent by the Admiralty, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
and what it meant was "The war is over!" | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Now, just imagine what it felt like | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
to the troops, the airmen, the sailors, receiving that. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
All the suffering, all the carnage, had come to an end. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
It's just one of the fascinating and moving things we've seen today. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:04 | |
You can see more of what we filmed on our website, if you want a look. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
We'll be back on the road | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
with our usual Antiques Roadshow next week. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
But from everyone at the National Memorial Arboretum, bye-bye. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 |