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On first glance, this doesn't look

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like much - a scrap of paper

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and some dried petals -

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but when I tell you

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that it's a poppy picked from

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the Flanders battlefield in 1917

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and sent by a wounded soldier

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to a loved one at home,

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it becomes a poignant and evocative

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witness to the First World War.

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Such small pieces speak loudly

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about the courage, loss and heroism of conflict.

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In this programme, we're about to hear some remarkable untold stories

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of lives overshadowed by war.

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Welcome to a special edition of The Antiques Roadshow

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from the National Memorial Arboretum.

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Last year, we appealed for stories

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of sacrifice and service in the face of war,

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and that triggered hundreds of responses from viewers,

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eager to share their families' accounts.

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These aren't stories of military commanders.

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Instead, we're focusing on often unpublished yet significant actions

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of men and women on the front line and on the home front,

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whose lives were changed for ever by their wartime experiences.

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We can share a few of those with you tonight.

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Our backdrop is the National Memorial Arboretum,

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near Lichfield in Staffordshire, which was opened ten years ago.

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Part of the Royal British Legion, it's a living tribute

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to those who've lost their lives in conflicts

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since the beginning of the 20th century.

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At the centre is the striking Armed Forces Memorial,

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a tribute to all the men and women who've died

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since the end of the Second World War.

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There are 16,000 names here

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and that number's still growing.

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When you see all these names

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so beautifully carved here,

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you get just a sense of the scale of the loss of life -

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it's almost overwhelming - and people travel

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from all over the country to come here.

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Often they have no grave to visit,

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but they can come and see the names of loved ones on the wall.

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We've only time to feature a fraction of the wider story

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depicted here, but our small team of experts,

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Graham Lay, Paul Atterbury,

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Hilary Kay and Bill Harriman, are here to meet our invited guests

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for this special Remembrance edition of The Antiques Roadshow.

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This is one of the most fantastic groups of medals

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that it's ever been my privilege to record on The Antiques Roadshow,

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and I'm guessing that this is the recipient,

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and can you tell me about him?

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He was my mother's first cousin.

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He was relatively old at the beginning of the war.

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He joined the Army, who kicked him out because he'd got flat feet,

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and so he went and joined the Navy and became...

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-They didn't mind flat feet, then?

-No, no, apparently not.

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And he became a naval mine disposal officer.

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As you know, it's a pretty hairy occupation.

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-Yes.

-And it earned him his George Cross.

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I can tell from this group that he must have been an extremely

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-distinguished mine disposal officer.

-Yes, he was.

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Here we have what is often known as the Civilian's Victoria Cross,

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the George Cross,

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and also, remarkably, with it, the George Medal,

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two of the highest accolades for gallantry -

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that isn't in the face of the enemy - that the country can bestow.

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You have to do exceptional things just to get one,

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but to get two... So, what did he do?

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Well, I was going to say, "take mines to pieces"!

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But the George Cross, in his citation,

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it was one of those mines

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with a delayed fuse that ticks,

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and it was damaged,

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and as soon as he started working on it -

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he had to pick the remains of the mechanism out with his fingers -

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-the thing started ticking again.

-Oh!

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And he just had time to - as he described to me -

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dive into his trench, before it blew up.

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-And fortunately for him, he was under the blast.

-Yes.

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And it blew his eardrums out and he was pretty shaken by it.

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I'm not surprised!

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They're not exactly small things, are they, mines?

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We can actually see one here, a huge sphere, packed with explosives.

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-And he was mere yards away from it when it went up.

-Absolutely.

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This must have been some time in 1942, I would guess.

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For me, as a little boy who was about five then, I remember

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being deeply impressed because he could blow smoke out of both ears.

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Yes, that would have impressed me as a little boy as well, I have to say!

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Well, I think it's lucky that a lot more wasn't fractured,

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and I think more to the point, it's very lucky that he managed to defuse

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these mines, because they caused huge problems,

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mainly with civilian morale, and jobs like this were so important

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because they knew that once the air raid had gone,

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there would be somebody there, sweeping up the nasties

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that had been left, ticking away. So that's obviously why he was given

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these two very, very, important awards.

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I've said that this is the most fantastic group of medals

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that it's ever been my privilege to see on the Roadshow.

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Have you ever thought what the value of it might be?

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Well, vaguely, but...

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Obviously, you can't put a monetary value

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on the sheer naked courage of somebody who sits on an explosive

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and twiddles around with the fuse, knowing that any minute,

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he might be spread into atoms. But it has a commercial value,

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particularly in the current market, which is very, very buoyant.

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And I can see that if those were put to auction,

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being, as we know, only one of eight known groupings of these

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two medals, I can see that making £100,000.

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Good God!

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They're not for sale, I'm afraid.

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Oh, I'm sure that Uncle Geoffrey would be very, very pleased to know

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that all these years afterwards, people thought so much

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of the tokens that he was given for such gallant work

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-and I'm humbled to see them, absolutely humbled.

-Delighted.

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Anyone interested in the history of the First World War as I am,

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inevitably thinks about the Royal Flying Corps, what it was like,

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those extraordinary experiences of aerial fights in that period.

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This really takes me straight into it - you know,

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here is one of those great moments.

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Two German Albatrosses, an RE8 about to be in great trouble,

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and of course that great hero - or whatever he is - the Red Baron.

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-Yes, that's right.

-So, is there a background to this?

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My father started at the beginning of the war.

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He volunteered to join, he'd just left school

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and he was going to Cambridge,

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but he decided that he should serve his country.

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Just out of patriotism?

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-Yes, literally. And...

-It was his duty.

-He was an 18-year-old.

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18, at that point.

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When he got his commission, they just asked if he'd like

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to join the Royal Flying Corps, which was a newly developed thing.

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He thought that would be great.

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Anyway, he loved flying,

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he only had 55 minutes - according to his log book -

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dual control, before he was allowed to go up on his own,

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which was amazing.

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-I think it's an insight into how it was, because we were very short of pilots.

-Yes.

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At that point in the war, the aeroplane still wasn't taken very seriously.

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And people were just flung up into the air,

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they had no parachutes, aeroplanes were very easily destroyed,

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-they burst into flames very quickly.

-That's right.

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And so death was very, very quick and very unpleasant.

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And I think that the life expectancy at the worst

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was something like two weeks.

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-Terrible, isn't it? Yes.

-But he came through.

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He came through, yes. He was lucky, but he was also a very skilful pilot.

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-This is him, presumably.

-Yes, yes.

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-Gosh, he looks young, doesn't he?

-He was young.

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He was awarded the MC by the King and heard somebody whisper, "Doesn't he look young?"

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-Well, they all were.

-He was very young, yes.

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So we've got two pictures of him here.

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-Are these his, as well?

-Yes, this is his actual helmet and one of the goggles.

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So, tell me about this moment of drama.

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Well, he'd already prepared what he would do.

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Usually, the English planes rushed for home and they were shot down,

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so he decided that he wouldn't do that. He would rush for home

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a little way, but when they got close enough, he'd turn the plane

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and go into the middle of them.

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But the Red Baron chased him and was shooting him hard,

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so he put himself into a spin, which was a very dangerous thing to do,

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and managed to pull out

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and the Red Baron thought he'd got him, and had flown away.

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-But he lived to tell the tale.

-He did.

-So many didn't.

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The Red Baron was an extraordinary phenomenon, Von Richthofen, he was such a skilled pilot.

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And in fact, in the end,

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he was killed on 21st April 1918,

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and it's thought he was actually shot down by ground fire,

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-not by the attacking aeroplanes.

-Really?

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-And it was the end of the legend.

-Yes.

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But of course, this image is

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so lively about what it must have been like,

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and looking at it, as I did, at the beginning,

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I thought - that aeroplane has had it, it's full of holes.

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It never flew again when he got it back.

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-But he did. That's the key thing.

-He did, yes.

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Did he commission this painting?

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He did, yes. He explained exactly how it was.

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And Ralph Gillies Cole captured that moment.

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The painting is a great image,

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it's a wonderful evocation of First World War flying.

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-I don't know what he paid for it in 1979 when he commissioned it, do you?

-No idea.

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It's probably worth £500-£800,

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-something like that, as a painting.

-Yes.

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Helmets, goggles, they're worth £200 or £300.

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A propeller tip as a photograph frame was actually quite well known

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at the time, again, you're looking at £50, £80, £100 for the item.

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-But this is not to do with the story.

-No.

-No.

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It is about taking us into those extraordinary days when people

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lived extraordinary lives and frequently died in a horrible way.

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-But he came through.

-Yes.

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-His star was watching him. Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

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When we recorded this programme, back in September,

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I met an extraordinary woman, Zdenka Fantlova,

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who brought us our smallest item,

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which represents the darkest episode of the Second World War.

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Zdenka, yours is an incredible story

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of survival against the odds.

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You were 19 when you were taken to Terezine Concentration Camp,

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or Theresienstadt as it's known.

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You were then taken...

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You survived six different camps...

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-Yes.

-..ending up at Belsen.

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The first camp, Terezine,

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you survived there because of love.

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Is that right?

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The whole war is because of love, from beginning to the end.

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Now, tell me about that. Love of whom?

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Because when you are 19, you take it seriously,

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your boyfriend is the whole interest in your life and he was there.

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But very early in the time,

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he was shipped to the East by a transport,

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and this was almost deadly because nobody knew where the people went.

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Before the transport, he made his way to the women's camp...

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..brought a ring...

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Now, this is the ring here.

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..which he made himself. I don't know how.

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-It's terribly fine.

-He engraved it with his name, Arno,

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13th of June, 1942.

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Slipped it on my finger and said, "This is our engagement ring,

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"it will protect you, and if we survive the war,

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"I'll find you somewhere".

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Kissed me and was out of the door and gone.

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This ring for me was a symbol of love and hope,

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and I was absolutely determined -

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it doesn't matter what comes,

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I'll have to survive so that we can meet again

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and live together for ever.

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That was, you know, that was this idea.

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But he didn't survive, did he?

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No. I didn't know that, only after the war.

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He was one of the transports...

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Thousand young men up to 30,

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taken to Poland,

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lined up and machine-gunned.

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And he risked his life to make this ring.

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Yes, and me, too. Because it was not allowed -

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this was against the rules to have anything,

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ring or earrings or anything,

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you have to give it up, and I had to hide it.

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And when I came to Auschwitz, there was a girl

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who had an engagement ring under the tongue,

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they took her away and she lost her life.

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And I had it on my finger and somebody said,

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"For heaven's sake, take it away, because a piece of metal

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"has no value, just throw it away".

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And I knew I can't throw it away,

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I would have lost the ground under my feet.

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And I put it under my tongue as well,

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was determined - put my life on the line,

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so that come what may...

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We've got a picture of Arno here.

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-Is this him, here?

-That's right.

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That was just prior to being taken to the camps.

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-So that's you and him together?

-Yes, yes.

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And you know, promise of loving and living together for ever -

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you know how it is.

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But for me it was very important. Nothing else mattered.

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At the end of the war, you ended up in the infamous Belsen camp...

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That's right, yes.

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..where so many, many people died.

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And when it was liberated - when the British soldiers came to Belsen -

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you were in a barrack which was right at the end of the camp,

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-away from where the British soldiers were.

-Yes.

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And you thought that even though the camp had been liberated,

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you would die there.

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I never thought I would die, it never occurred to me.

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You were close to death, though.

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I was skin and bones, and 20,000 corpses lying around me

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and I never thought I'd be one of them.

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And yet, I could have been.

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And it was the last moment,

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a line between life and death when you feel you're going,

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and then the member of the British Army appeared

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and he saved my life.

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Tell me about that. What happened?

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Because he...

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wanted me to stay where I was,

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and I said, "I can't," and I spoke the language.

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You spoke English to him.

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And asked him if he can't leave me there, he should shoot me,

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it would be quicker. And he suddenly changed, you know,

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the whole face changed, like in a film.

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He was a human. And he said, "All right, stay here

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"and I'll come in the morning and pick you up," and I believed him

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and he did come.

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He put me in a sheet, pushed me

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in between four stretchers in a military ambulance and off we went.

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And all I had - my naked life and the ring on a string on my neck.

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It was all I had.

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And he saved my life,

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and I never had a chance to say thank you because he disappeared.

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And after the war, I lived in Australia,

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there was no chance looking for him, and at least,

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this opportunity, I would like to say thank you, wherever he is.

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Well, I mean, it sounds like if he hadn't intervened,

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that would have been it.

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That would have been it. One of the many.

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But now I live another life

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and I'm grateful for every single day.

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Of all the gardens and memorials here,

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I think this has to be the most poignant.

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We're in the eastern woodland, where next to a tribute

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to the Royal Army Medical Corps sits this moving reminder

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of an uncomfortable aspect of the First World War.

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It's called Shot At Dawn and it commemorates over 300 British

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and Commonwealth soldiers who were shot for desertion or cowardice.

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It's a sad reflection of the desperation of war,

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particularly when you think that many of them were underage

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when they volunteered, just boys.

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In 2006, they were all posthumously pardoned

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after a long and vigorous campaign by their descendants.

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And it's a fitting backdrop for our next story.

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Well, we're standing here, in front of what, for many years,

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some people have felt a very controversial memorial.

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Why have you brought us here?

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Because that man proves that this is the right thing to do.

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My dear Uncle Frank, Frank Handley Ridgwell,

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was condemned to death on the 10th February 1916

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for allegedly sleeping on duty.

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He had done a second sentry duty for a sick friend,

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a young officer inspected him,

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claimed that he was asleep.

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He was given a ten-minute court martial, sentenced to death.

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No defence counsel.

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It took a fortnight for that sentence to be confirmed,

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he was given back his rifle, sent back to the front

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knowing he might be shot by the enemy, or his own people behind him.

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That sentence was commuted to five years' penal servitude.

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He worked off that five-year penal servitude

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by extraordinary bravery at the front,

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for which he received a certificate of honour from his regiment.

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He was shot twice - once through his left breast pocket by his pay book,

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through the photograph of his sister,

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my dear Auntie Cis, who I was brought up next to - there's the bullet hole -

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and once through his other tunic pocket,

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where the bullet bounced off his cigarette case.

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He then served with great distinction.

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He was captured by the enemy, ill treated in prison,

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escaped, was protected by Belgian citizens,

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whom he loved dearly for it,

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made his way to the coast,

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was arrested by the British authorities as a deserter -

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his pay book proved that he wasn't -

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and he was shipped home in uniform

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and was discharged as the private he began.

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-Good grief. What an extraordinary career!

-He was 24.

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And there's the record of his actual sentencing,

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of the commuting of that sentence

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and of the wiping off of that sentence, all in a few lines.

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How did you feel when you found out,

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presumably as young man,

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that your uncle had been...

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Immensely proud of him.

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The fact that he had been convicted of cowardice?

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No, of sleeping.

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As I knew him, I knew that couldn't be right.

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The critical thing to bear in mind, if I may say so,

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is that sentences to death increased rapidly before every great campaign.

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-Of course.

-This was the General Staff

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strengthening the resolve of what were called the poor bloody infantry.

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-And this was as a deterrent, wasn't it?

-Of course.

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That man was sentenced to death three months before the Battle of the Somme began,

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in which he served with great distinction.

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Now, during his very brief trial...

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Yes.

0:19:560:19:57

..if it can be called a trial - presumably he...

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I know you said he wasn't represented by legal...

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-That's the evidence of all these trials.

-He didn't even have

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-a soldier's friend?

-I gather not.

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Well, he may have done,

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but frankly, if I may be blunt,

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it was the word of a young officer against a grocer's assistant.

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I see. So you think it might have been a class aspect?

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Oh, I'm sure it was, I'm sure it was,

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and I would venture to suggest

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that most of these extraordinary young men

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were the victims of a military class system as well.

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If I had a fraction of his courage,

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I'd be a very fortunate man.

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The unveiling of new memorials is a regular feature at the arboretum.

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On the day we visited, His Royal Highness the Duke of York,

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in his role as Colonel in Chief of the Yorkshire Regiment,

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was there for a dedication ceremony.

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Your Royal Highness, this is a fitting place to talk to you,

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given your role and your service in the armed forces.

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I've seen some of the names from the Falklands campaign.

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Of course you, as everyone will know, were in the Falklands,

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so it must have poignancy for you, seeing the names of people you knew.

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It does, and it brings back the sorts of thoughts

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that one was going through then.

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I mean, there was huge anxiety of what it was.

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Were we doing the right thing?

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And of course, we were going to recover British territory.

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But it's a memory now,

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and this is what's so weird.

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I mean, it's going to be 30 years next year.

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That's an awfully long time ago, but it's still very fresh as a memory,

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if you understand what I mean,

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and I always think about the people who I was serving with.

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There was great camaraderie about what we were doing.

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There are moments of...

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hilarity that I remember.

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We were under one missile attack one day

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when a friend of mine and I

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were trying to fix, or finish, a Rubik's cube.

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Those were the days when this cube thing, you know...

0:22:110:22:14

-I remember it very well!

-You remember it very well.

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And just as the missile attack was taking place, we completed it,

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and we were told everybody had to lie on the floor,

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because on deck, we had to take cover.

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And we were lying on the deck with a completed Rubik's cube between us,

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and I always thought,

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I wonder what people would think

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if something ghastly had happened and we'd been hit

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and all they'd found was two bodies and a Rubik's cube.

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Small things like that stick in one's mind. So, I mean, it's remarkable,

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and it brought home to me how fragile we are as a human being.

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How important is it, do you think, to have a place like this

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of national remembrance?

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I think it's very important,

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because we remember on Remembrance Sunday,

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or on 11th November every year,

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those that have died in the service of their country,

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but actually, there's more to it than that.

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There's more about actually allowing

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those who have lost friends and loved ones

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to be able to come somewhere

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where they can know that they are never forgotten.

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-Your Royal Highness, thank you very much.

-You're very welcome.

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This very interesting collection of objects clearly relates

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to the conflict in the Falklands.

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Yes, Glamorgan was in the thick of the action

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from the very first day.

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And on 12th June, just two days before the surrender,

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Glamorgan was ordered to go inshore to support 45 Commando

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in their attack upon the Two Sisters Ridge.

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But 45 Commando took longer than anticipated to take the mountain.

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The Navy is not in the business of leaving soldiers in the lurch,

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so we stayed on the gun line until 45 Commando had completed.

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We then started to hurry back towards the aircraft carriers

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and I saw, at eight miles, coming from what I thought was Eliza Cove,

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a fast-moving contact which I interpreted as an Exocet missile.

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-You were navigating officer.

-Navigator on the bridge.

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And about 20, 30 seconds later,

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I saw the faintest of blips coming from the land.

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It wasn't there the next sweep,

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and my heart breathed a sigh of relief, and then the next sweep

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there was a firm echo and the next sweep another firm echo,

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and in my heart of hearts

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I just knew it was an Exocet missile.

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And so I gave the order "Starboard 35", a pre-planned manoeuvre

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to turn the quickest way, to take it at a ten-degree inclination,

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to try to bounce it off the ship's side.

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But we hadn't completed the turn,

0:24:510:24:53

and we were heeling at 14 degrees, and you can see...

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This is the actual bridge clinometer,

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-which is at the moment set at 14 degrees.

-That's at 14 degrees.

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And presumably that's quite an amount of heel, is it?

0:25:010:25:06

That's really a significant amount of heel,

0:25:060:25:08

and that lowered the ship's side just enough

0:25:080:25:10

so the missile just clipped the upper deck

0:25:100:25:13

and then skidded along the upper deck whilst being deflected upwards.

0:25:130:25:17

It exploded just short of the hangar

0:25:170:25:20

and blew a large hole in the upper deck

0:25:200:25:22

and a hole in the next deck down,

0:25:220:25:24

and the missile body went through the hangar door

0:25:240:25:27

into the fully fuelled and fully armed helicopter,

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which promptly blew up.

0:25:300:25:32

We were the only ship to survive being hit.

0:25:320:25:34

Turning the ship gave the damage-control teams

0:25:340:25:36

the chance to save the ship.

0:25:360:25:38

And they need all the credit they can get.

0:25:380:25:41

But, sadly, we lost 14 members of our ship's company.

0:25:410:25:44

But it could have been so much worse.

0:25:440:25:47

-How many men in the company?

-Just under 500.

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The Argentine marine who actually pressed the fire button

0:25:490:25:53

on the Exocet launcher,

0:25:530:25:55

he contacted the HMS Glamorgan website and apologised,

0:25:550:25:59

and I responded to his contact

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and said he doesn't have to apologise

0:26:020:26:04

because he was doing his duty, just as we were doing ours.

0:26:040:26:08

And I went out to Argentina a few years ago with my wife

0:26:080:26:13

and I met Jose in Rosario,

0:26:130:26:16

and he was a very nice man, nice family, and...

0:26:160:26:20

-So you bear him no ill will?

-No ill will, whatsoever,

0:26:200:26:23

because, you know... It's the politicians I'm not so keen on.

0:26:230:26:26

But I have a great respect for the Argentine service personnel,

0:26:260:26:30

who did their duty.

0:26:300:26:32

Well, I think one of our themes today is remembrance,

0:26:320:26:34

but I think the sub-theme that you've brought out from that,

0:26:340:26:37

-that's just as important, is reconciliation.

-Yes.

0:26:370:26:40

-No point in winning the war if you can't win the peace.

-I'll drink to that.

0:26:400:26:44

We're standing in an area of the arboretum today

0:26:490:26:53

that relates to the Far East, prisoners of war,

0:26:530:26:56

and we're standing in front of

0:26:560:26:58

a section of the Burma-Thailand railway.

0:26:580:27:01

You've also brought along

0:27:010:27:04

this Japanese sword

0:27:040:27:06

which, from the covering of the scabbard, relates to the Second World War.

0:27:060:27:09

It can't be yours, because you're not old enough. So whose was it?

0:27:090:27:14

This was brought back by my father, Captain Charles MacDonald,

0:27:140:27:17

from Burma, where he was a Japanese prisoner of war.

0:27:170:27:20

And why was he a prisoner? Why was he taken prisoner?

0:27:200:27:23

Well, he volunteered to go into Burma behind the enemy lines,

0:27:230:27:27

for the second Wingate expedition, which was going to liberate Burma,

0:27:270:27:31

and he led a nine-man patrol

0:27:310:27:33

which was to live off the land and gather information

0:27:330:27:36

which would be fed back, which would help the British re-invade Burma.

0:27:360:27:39

Because they were living off the land, they were short of food,

0:27:390:27:42

and they went into a Burmese village for supplies.

0:27:420:27:45

They were told to come back the next day. My father was suspicious.

0:27:450:27:48

He thought they were being set up.

0:27:480:27:50

Indeed they were - as he and his sergeant and an Indian soldier

0:27:500:27:52

went into the village to get supplies,

0:27:520:27:55

a machine gun opened up on them at very close range.

0:27:550:27:58

And my father went to the ground,

0:27:580:28:00

the Indian soldier and the sergeant ran into the jungle.

0:28:000:28:03

My father then charged the machine-gun nest, threw a grenade,

0:28:030:28:07

and the last thing the Indian soldier saw of him

0:28:070:28:09

was him falling down to the ground with a cry,

0:28:090:28:13

and so he had apparently been killed in action.

0:28:130:28:15

And was that reported back?

0:28:150:28:18

That was reported back,

0:28:180:28:19

and so for five months my mother thought that he had been killed in action.

0:28:190:28:24

And then it started to filter through that perhaps he had survived,

0:28:240:28:28

he may have been wounded, possibly a prisoner of war,

0:28:280:28:30

and by that time he was in Rangoon jail at the southern end of Burma.

0:28:300:28:34

Now, you've brought one or two other objects.

0:28:340:28:37

Who does this show?

0:28:370:28:38

That's my father and mother on their wedding day, Boxing Day 1940.

0:28:380:28:43

They got married very quickly because he was being sent overseas,

0:28:430:28:46

and she didn't see him for another five years!

0:28:460:28:49

-Five years!

-Five years. Can you imagine it?

0:28:490:28:52

And what's this little... luggage label?

0:28:520:28:54

I think this is the most poignant.

0:28:540:28:57

My mother received this a few months after he'd disappeared,

0:28:570:29:00

-which simply says "Kit of a deceased officer"...

-Oh, my goodness.

0:29:000:29:04

..which is pretty final.

0:29:040:29:07

I wonder how she would have coped with thinking he had been killed.

0:29:070:29:12

I think she was an amazingly tough character,

0:29:120:29:15

and I think she hoped against hope

0:29:150:29:17

he would survive, that he'd be protected by God in some way,

0:29:170:29:20

and of course, indeed he was.

0:29:200:29:22

And you've also brought along this postcard.

0:29:220:29:24

Yes, this is remarkable.

0:29:240:29:26

I think her first knowledge that he was still alive

0:29:260:29:29

came in a short press cutting in the paper

0:29:290:29:31

about his lone attack on the Japanese position.

0:29:310:29:34

And the very next day she sent this postcard, via the Red Cross.

0:29:340:29:37

-And what does it say?

-Well, amazing. "Darling, first card to you.

0:29:370:29:41

"All overjoyed at news after five months missing. Have faith.

0:29:440:29:47

"You're in my heart always."

0:29:490:29:51

HE CLEARS HIS THROAT I'm afraid I get a bit choked!

0:29:510:29:55

-I can see, I can see.

-"All my love, Mary."

0:29:550:29:58

But, I mean, this is amazing history,

0:29:580:30:00

absolutely extraordinary history,

0:30:000:30:02

and, you know, you can imagine,

0:30:020:30:06

it's so sort of straightforward.

0:30:060:30:09

There's clearly great love, but it had to be written in capital letters,

0:30:090:30:13

you could only have a certain number of words, and she had to convey...

0:30:130:30:17

her overpowering sense of happiness and relief that he'd survived.

0:30:170:30:21

He was the very first Far East prisoner of war

0:30:210:30:25

to arrive back in this country.

0:30:250:30:26

He was only eight stone, and he was a bigger frame than me.

0:30:260:30:30

And my mother,

0:30:300:30:32

I suppose probably rather proudly,

0:30:320:30:35

marched down Oxford Street with him,

0:30:350:30:37

and it stopped the traffic.

0:30:370:30:39

-Stopped the traffic?

-It did.

0:30:390:30:41

People were so horrified, because they'd never seen anything like this.

0:30:410:30:45

I have to say that this is one of the stories today

0:30:450:30:48

that has really moved me personally.

0:30:480:30:51

It really has.

0:30:520:30:54

Christopher Wren said, "I build for eternity,"

0:31:050:31:08

and St Paul's Cathedral, perhaps, during the Second World War,

0:31:080:31:12

became an icon that focused the nation's pride,

0:31:120:31:16

particularly during the Blitz period,

0:31:160:31:20

and civilians were incredibly important

0:31:200:31:23

in preserving St Paul's during that time.

0:31:230:31:26

Tell me about somebody who was involved.

0:31:260:31:29

My grandfather, Alfred Henry Sharr, had joined St Paul's Cathedral

0:31:290:31:33

as a maintenance man in 1935,

0:31:330:31:36

but coming up to the beginning of 1939,

0:31:360:31:39

the Dean and Chapter said that,

0:31:390:31:41

with war imminent, they had to try and protect St Paul's as best as possible.

0:31:410:31:46

Didn't Winston Churchill say

0:31:460:31:48

that St Paul's must be protected at all costs?

0:31:480:31:51

That came in 1940 during the Blitz

0:31:510:31:54

because there were so many near misses.

0:31:540:31:57

A bomb had hit near the south tower

0:31:570:31:59

and gone down some 90 feet before they managed to dig it out.

0:31:590:32:03

-My goodness.

-But my grandfather was part of the team that became

0:32:030:32:08

St Paul's Watch, and they ended up with some 280 people.

0:32:080:32:11

Their main tasks were to guard against incendiaries, bombs,

0:32:110:32:16

act as fire watchers.

0:32:160:32:18

-They were all volunteers.

-They were indeed.

-All civilians.

-Yes.

0:32:180:32:22

And here is an image of your grandfather

0:32:220:32:26

actually abseiling down the dome of St Paul's!

0:32:260:32:30

I can't see much evidence of health and safety.

0:32:300:32:32

I think it was invented just after that photograph.

0:32:320:32:35

Perhaps BECAUSE of this photograph!

0:32:350:32:38

I suppose that the most famous incident

0:32:380:32:40

which involved an attack, really, on London

0:32:400:32:44

was that night of 29th December, that extraordinary Blitzkrieg,

0:32:440:32:48

when 100,000 incendiary bombs like this...

0:32:480:32:54

-This is an incendiary bomb?

-Still with its fuse in.

0:32:540:32:56

Still got its fuse in, but nothing else, one presumes.

0:32:560:32:59

And these were dropped in clusters, so they created absolute havoc,

0:32:590:33:05

and there was a firestorm on that night.

0:33:050:33:08

That was the big raid

0:33:080:33:10

when they considered they were after St Paul's Cathedral. It was iconic.

0:33:100:33:14

You're right, Churchill had decreed that it must be saved at all costs.

0:33:140:33:18

At that point, they put in far more firefighters

0:33:180:33:22

into St Paul's, they put hoses on ropes to pull them up into the dome

0:33:220:33:28

so they could fight fires.

0:33:280:33:29

And that night was the night of the spring tide,

0:33:290:33:32

the lowest tide on the Thames,

0:33:320:33:35

hence they couldn't get the water out of the Thames to fight any fires.

0:33:350:33:39

And I suppose if there's one image that sums up

0:33:390:33:41

St Paul's and its position

0:33:410:33:45

as a survivor...

0:33:450:33:48

it is this picture taken by Herbert Mason.

0:33:480:33:53

It was taken the morning after 29th December,

0:33:530:33:57

on the morning of 30th December,

0:33:570:33:59

with St Paul's caught in the first ray of the rising sun.

0:33:590:34:03

And there was a huge discussion about this.

0:34:030:34:06

Would it serve to inspire the people or to depress them?

0:34:060:34:10

And it wasn't printed until the following day,

0:34:100:34:13

on 31st December, because it was decided

0:34:130:34:16

that actually it embodied the spirit of Londoners

0:34:160:34:20

to survive the Blitz.

0:34:200:34:23

-And Christopher Wren was right - he did build for eternity.

-Indeed.

0:34:230:34:27

Meet Whacker. He's probably the oddest object we've seen today.

0:34:390:34:44

He's a mascot for a bombing crew during the Second World War,

0:34:440:34:48

and he was actually injured in action himself.

0:34:480:34:50

Look, he's got a shrapnel hole here

0:34:500:34:53

and on the back, a swastika for every bombing raid the crew went on.

0:34:530:34:57

Now, lots of people wrote in to us about mascots.

0:34:570:35:01

I think one of the most unusual

0:35:010:35:03

is your story of a mascot, Robin, and it was a cat.

0:35:030:35:06

A cat called Pyro, who was the pet cat of my father, Bob Bird,

0:35:060:35:11

and they served together in a secret wing of the RAF

0:35:110:35:14

called the Experimental Seaplane Research Centre at Helensburgh.

0:35:140:35:19

-Taking reconnaissance pictures?

-Pictures of flying boats,

0:35:190:35:23

such things as the Barnes Wallis bouncing bomb and ways of sinking U-boats.

0:35:230:35:26

And where did Pyro the cat come into it all?

0:35:260:35:30

Pyro wandered into the base and made a home in the darkroom,

0:35:300:35:35

and Bob didn't see it there

0:35:350:35:37

and actually nearly cut its tail off when he closed a sliding glass door.

0:35:370:35:41

And this is Bob and the cat, here, is it?

0:35:410:35:44

This is Bob and the cat. Bob took it to the medical officer,

0:35:440:35:47

who repaired the cat's tail,

0:35:470:35:49

and they became friends.

0:35:490:35:50

The cat used to follow Bob, so Bob took him flying with him,

0:35:500:35:53

in the flying jacket.

0:35:530:35:55

-And this is his flying jacket here.

-It is. To keep Bob warm

0:35:550:35:58

and as a lucky mascot to chase the gremlins away.

0:35:580:36:01

So everything worked smoothly when Pyro was in the plane.

0:36:010:36:03

Until one day, when Bob was flying at 20,000 feet in extreme cold,

0:36:030:36:09

and he was changing his camera lens and his fingers froze to the camera.

0:36:090:36:15

Bob took his fingers off the camera, but they were frostbitten.

0:36:150:36:18

And he warmed them on Pyro, and when he was hospitalised afterwards,

0:36:180:36:22

the medical officer said, "Pyro's repaid his debt.

0:36:220:36:25

"You saved his tail and he saved your fingers."

0:36:250:36:27

My goodness! Air crews were superstitious.

0:36:270:36:30

They were flying in such dangerous circumstances,

0:36:300:36:33

and these mascots became terribly important to them.

0:36:330:36:36

All the crew welcomed him,

0:36:360:36:38

even though he shouldn't have been there, really.

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Pyro was the even more secret bit of the secret wing.

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He was sworn to secrecy. He never spoke about his war, Pyro.

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-Kept his lips firmly sealed.

-He did.

-Quite right.

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This is the photograph of a very young man.

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Who is he and how old was he?

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He's my grandad and his name was Edward,

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or Teddy, and he is 19, roughly, in that photo.

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And what was his war?

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His war, really, was...

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He had quite a safe job, and I know that he was doing

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some engineering on aircraft

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and doing things around England, based around England.

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So in the 1940s, in the middle of the Second World War,

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-he was ground crew.

-That's correct.

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And he then put himself forward,

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because he realised they were losing lots of air crew

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and that they needed more men.

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He felt that he needed to do his duty and help win this war.

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-So what did he do?

-He volunteered

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as an air gunner, and he did this in secret, without my nan knowing.

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-So he volunteered.

-He volunteered.

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And when we talk about going into the bombers as a gunner,

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that was THE most dangerous job,

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whether you were a rear gunner or wherever it was.

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You were very, very easily picked off

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by the Messerschmitts or whoever was defending the target.

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It was my nan's nightmare. And they'd discussed it,

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and she said that was the one thing that she was afraid of him doing.

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So this is a photograph

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-of your grandfather Teddy and your nan on their wedding.

-Yes.

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Maisie and Teddy

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on their wedding day.

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The entries in the logbook finish in 1942.

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-Yes.

-What happened?

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He was shot down in a Halifax with the rest of his crew.

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-So all the crew were...

-All the crew were dead, yes.

-Extraordinary.

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And there are the terrible formal letters that come through,

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advising, you know, "Lost in action, presumed killed",

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and then a confirmation that he was in fact known to be killed,

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not just missing.

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But then what about this? What is this?

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It's the letter he left,

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explaining to my nan why he felt he had to put himself forward,

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that would go to her in case anything happened.

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I can tell you that, holding this in my hands, actually,

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the hair on the back of my neck is rising,

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because this, to me, is an incredibly powerful document.

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Now, this letter has been obviously treasured and loved,

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and it starts...

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It's dated 2nd May 1942, written in Croft,

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which was where he was based then,

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and it starts, "Dearest, it's now 7pm."

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And I'd like you to take the story up. I don't know if I can read it.

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-I'll try.

-You try.

-I'll try.

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So, you've got it transcribed there.

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Read a little bit out to me.

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"When you read this letter, one of two things would probably have happened.

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"Either I shall be home, off operations,

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"or I shall be missing.

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"That is why I want to write this letter, dearest.

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"Now this is where I have to confess to deceiving you, darling.

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"I've never done it before, and I hope

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"I never will have to do it again.

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"I hope you understand..."

0:40:020:40:04

Sorry. "..but I couldn't help it.

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"The main thing was

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"that I didn't say what aircraft I was flying in.

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"Well, they were the big, four-engined Halifaxes.

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"Understand, darling, I was to fly over Germany

0:40:180:40:21

"of a night and also sometimes of a day.

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"It was the one thing you dreaded, wasn't it?

0:40:250:40:28

"That was the reason I didn't tell you.

0:40:280:40:30

"I hadn't the heart, darling. I love you too much.

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"At the moment, there are only two months to go

0:40:330:40:36

"before our baby comes into this world.

0:40:360:40:39

"If you do happen to get this letter in unhappy circumstances...

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"..which I pray to God you won't,

0:40:460:40:48

"remember, darling, unhappy moments often turn into happy ones,

0:40:480:40:52

"and never give up hope.

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"Remember, don't give up, and keep your chin up, darling.

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"Au revoir - not goodbye - beloved.

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"Yours, with all my love, my dearest, Teddy."

0:41:000:41:04

Sorry.

0:41:080:41:10

Sorry.

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That's quite some letter.

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There's not really much more one can say about that, actually.

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We've only really read a part of it,

0:41:290:41:31

-because it is an incredibly powerful document.

-It is, yes.

0:41:310:41:35

Um, and it's all about...

0:41:350:41:40

-the ones that are left behind.

-Yes.

0:41:400:41:42

It's...incredibly powerful stuff,

0:41:420:41:44

and I'm very, very moved

0:41:440:41:47

and delighted that you've been able

0:41:470:41:50

-to share it with us.

-Thank you for allowing me.

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I should think just about every family has a link

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to someone who is commemorated here at the arboretum.

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And incidentally, it's open every day, except Christmas Day,

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and entrance is free.

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Before we go, I just want to share one more

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evocative item that's been brought along today with you.

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It's a telex

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that was sent on V-J Day, Victory over Japan Day,

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15th August, 1945.

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It says,

0:42:390:42:40

"Most immediate, all concerned home and abroad,

0:42:400:42:44

"splice the mainbrace."

0:42:440:42:46

It was sent by the Admiralty,

0:42:460:42:48

and what it meant was "The war is over!"

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Now, just imagine what it felt like

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to the troops, the airmen, the sailors, receiving that.

0:42:520:42:56

All the suffering, all the carnage, had come to an end.

0:42:560:42:59

It's just one of the fascinating and moving things we've seen today.

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You can see more of what we filmed on our website, if you want a look.

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We'll be back on the road

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with our usual Antiques Roadshow next week.

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But from everyone at the National Memorial Arboretum, bye-bye.

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