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We're just outside Newcastle on the windy northeast coast of England. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:06 | |
We're at a stately home... | 0:00:06 | 0:00:07 | |
"Nothing unusual in that," I hear you say... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
but what is different is that local people raised almost | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
£1 million to stop this place falling into private ownership. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
So what is it about this home that made them so keen to save it? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Seaton Delaval Hall, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
home for centuries to the Delaval family. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
There's a picture on the cover of the brand-new brochure | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
of many of the people involved in raising the money | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
that enabled the National Trust to buy Seaton Delaval Hall. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
So why did 100,000 residents speak out | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
against the Hall being sold to private developers? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
Was it because of the lineage | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
stretching back as far as William the Conqueror? | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Was it because their ancestors worked down the family mines | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
or in the family glassworks? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Or was it the flamboyant lifestyle of previous residents here? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Whatever the reason, one of the most obvious answers must be that, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
amidst the suburban sprawl, industrial landscape | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
and romantic coastal scenery, stands a haven of peace - | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Seaton Delaval Hall. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Perhaps that's the most likely explanation as to why | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
the place is loved so much by the local community. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Designed in the early 1700s by the great Sir John Vanbrugh - | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
the architect of Blenheim Palace and Castle Howard - | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
its future was suddenly thrown into doubt by the death in 2007 | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
of its owner, Lord Hastings, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
who devoted a lifetime to its rescue and care. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
But this isn't the first time that the local people have come to the rescue of the Hall. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
At dusk on 3rd January 1822, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
sailors out at sea thought the sunset seemed unusually bright. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
Seaton Delaval Hall was on fire. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Hundreds of people rushed to the scene and managed to save | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
some of the building, and some of the family's portraits and possessions. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
But, as a result, the Hall wasn't fully occupied by the family | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
until the 1980s, when the late Lord and Lady Hastings took up residence. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Even today, the Great Hall is preserved as a ruin - | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
a reminder of its past. As for the future, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
well, the role of local people here at Seaton Delaval Hall is unique. | 0:02:55 | 0:03:00 | |
They can use the place for community gatherings and celebrations, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
but also, they are crucial to the running of it, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and you can spot them working in the house. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
That's Liz, (doing a guided tour.) | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Even outside in the gardens, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
volunteers like Michael are busy keeping it all looking beautiful. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
Just one of the gardening team, making sure the grounds | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
are in perfect order for this week's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
If my house was to catch fire this evening, that would be | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
the first thing that I'd grab to remove, take from the house. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
I love it. I've had it 50-odd years. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
Right. What do you think it is? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Just a naive toy. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
I bought that from a gentleman whose family had lived in the same house | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
forever, and it was a house, little cottage in Shildon | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
which backed onto the original Darlington-to-Stockton railway | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
and I can only assume that that's a toy made by a father | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
for his son as he watched that chugging up and down | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
outside his back yard. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
Well, that story is wonderful, and it could be fantasy, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
but, actually, I'm thinking along the same lines. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
-Really? Ah. -Let's look at it briefly. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
It's incredibly crude and it's made of re-used components. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
This is probably a leg of a chair. That could be a stair banister. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
It's old bits and pieces knocked together - as you say - | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
to please a child, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
and it looks like a locomotive of the 1820-1830 period. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
I think I should explain the reason why I'm so excited. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
We're right at the birth of railways. The Stockton and Darlington - | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
up the road, in effect - was opened in 1825. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
The Liverpool and Manchester - | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Stevenson, the great name associated with it - | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
opening a few years later. It's not quite the Rocket, you know, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
but it's looking like it. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
It's certainly based on a locomotive of that period. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
So, if this is actually recording those very early years | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
of railway history, it is an extraordinary document. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
-Well, I love it. -You love it. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
-You'd save it from your house. -Yes, I really do. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I'd save it from my house because I am holding what could be | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
the oldest toy train in the world. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
Have you thought of that? | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
No, I'd never thought of it in that respect, no, not at all. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
I mean crude, basic, like something that's been knocked together | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
by someone who wasn't even a very good carpenter. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I had things like that when I was a child. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-I expect you did, too. -I certainly did. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
But it's got to start somewhere. Now, if I'm right, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
if this is the world's earliest toy train, what's it worth? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
That... I'd never thought of it in those terms. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
It is, quite literally, one of those things that I won't part with. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
I'll sell most things, but certainly not that. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
-We'll never prove it. -No, of course not. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
It's either worth £20 as a piece of curiosity or it's worth... | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
£5,000. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
You know, it's somewhere between those two, but we'll never prove it. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
-No, never will. -I mean, we both love it. -I do. May I take it? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
You... Sadly, you can take it. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Thank you very, very much. Glad to have shared your enthusiasm. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-And yours. -Thank you. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Basically they were given to me, and I was very lucky. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
I lived in Newport, Monmouthshire - as it then was called - | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
43 years ago, 1968... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
and I was a student and there was another student who was graduating that year, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
and he had found these. I think they were about to go in a skip. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
I think if they'd gone in the skip, they would have been seriously damaged. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
He told me that it was a church that was being destroyed | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and so he rescued them. And he couldn't take them with him when he left, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
so I took them from him, and I've carried them with me ever since. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
Well, when you think about | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
all the churches that have been demolished | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
in the last 50, 60 years, it's scary to think | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
of the sort of things that would just be thrown in a skip. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-Absolutely. -So, yeah, rescue is the word, isn't it? -It is. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Well, let me just say that | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
when it comes to items of a religious nature, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
they tend, generally, to be ignored, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
-certainly from the 19th century, anyway. -Yeah. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-And these are, I think it's fair to say, 19th century. -Yes. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
But there's a little bit more to them, I think, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
in some respects. I think we've got part of the subject here, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
-because they've formed a frame, haven't they? -Yes. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
-I can't help but think that there would have been something central. -I wish I knew what it was! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
Well, I think that'll keep you guessing for the rest of your life. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
-Yes. -But just looking at them stylistically, I can say that, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
you know, that they are very much of the early 19th century. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
-Oh, right. -But they're also... They go back further in time | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
because there's a hint of the Italian Renaissance here. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-Yes, isn't there? They're lovely. -And they're not late 19th because, you know, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
late-19th-century angels tend to have large wings, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
-they belong to the Pre-Raphaelite movement. -Yes. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
And these, I have to say, are a little bit earlier. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
The good thing is, everybody loves angels. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
Have you done any research on these people at all? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I haven't. I briefly looked to see whether I could find out what churches | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
were destroyed in Newport in 1967-1968, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
without any success, I have to say. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
OK, so, with something like this, you know, you're left pondering. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
Who's going to be interested? It's the sort of thing I expect to find | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
in an architectural sort of salvage place. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Yes, oh, I'd hate to see them in a salvage place. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-Well, you've moved house with these, have you? -They've lived in about 10 or 11 different places now. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
Oh, my goodness me! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:42 | |
It's very difficult to put a definite value on them, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
-because they are, you know, they're only plaster. -Yes. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
And I'm just sort of pulling a figure out of thin air, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
but I can't help but think that if I went into an architectural place | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
wanting to buy these, I think they'd be asking me around about £800. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
-Right. -But, let's face it, you know, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
how can you put a price on six angels? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
-Absolutely. -Because most of us are very happy to have one guardian angel in our lives. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
-Yes. -And you've got six. -I know. Aren't I lucky? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-It's a very handsome oak director's clock, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
But what I particularly like is this magnificent | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
engraving down here of this iron bridge. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
What do you know about that one? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
It was donated to a Mr Bell in commemorating | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
the building of the bridge over the River Wandswick. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
-Does the bridge still exist? -Yes. -Train bridge | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-or road bridge? -Train bridge. -It just looks sensational. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
-How local is it, just a few miles? -About seven miles, perhaps. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
Oh, right. Dated 1909, which is obviously | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
-the completion of the bridge, I imagine. -Yes. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Now, these big director's clocks | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
were either made in the UK or in Germany. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
They are all roughly this size, they come in oak, mahogany | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
or even in ebonised wood, but the instant giveaway | 0:09:59 | 0:10:04 | |
that the country of origin is one particular one, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
is the fact that... | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
It is quarter-chiming, you've got your strike/silent, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
but it's only two-train. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
In other words, normally these big clocks have three trains, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
-so going, striking and quarter-chiming. -Right. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
And I'd expect to see, on an English example, lots of gongs | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
or even eight bells, but here, we've just got the two trains. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
So, let's just hear what sort of sound it's going to make | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
on the quarters. Just running it past the three-quarter. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
CLOCK CHIMES | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
So, a nice, mellow quarter-strike really, isn't it? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
Let's have a look at the movement. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
There we go, a typical small-size German movement, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
and even signed here. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
Do you see that factory stamp down at the bottom? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-Oh, yes. -The "W&H", that's Winterhalder and Hoffmeier. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Now, they did make big-size movements as well, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
but this is the slightly cheaper version. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
So... Is it something you've bought recently, or not? | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
Approximately 15 years ago. I bought it from a friend. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
-And what did he charge you? -He charged me...I think... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-it was around about £400. -400 quid. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Do you think you were tucked up, or do you think you got a fair deal? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
I'll wait and see. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
RICHARD LAUGHS | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
I think your £400 today is going to be | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-roughly £1,500 at auction. -My goodness. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
-So, he didn't do you too badly, did he? -He's forgiven. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
Forgiven! Great word, I like it. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Well, it's unusual to see one work by John Gilroy, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
but four lovely watercolours by this artist is very unusual. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
Is he a friend of the family, or did you buy them, or...? | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
-He was a friend of my mother's family. -Right. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
And these pictures were all done in her autograph album. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-Oh, I see, in a sort of visitors' book sort of thing, was it, or...? -Well, they were friends. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
-Right. -I think, quite close friends. -More than friends. -Oh, right, was he an admirer? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
-I think so. -An admirer, that's correct, yes. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
-And is this beautiful woman here your mother? -Yes. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Oh, how lovely, so it really is a very sort of intimate portrait. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
-Very special. -Special portrait. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
-And Gilroy was also the man responsible for the great Guinness advertisements. -Indeed. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
If I remember, the man with the girder on his shoulder... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
"Guinness gives you strength". | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-That's it, and also the toucans. -Yes. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Which was...you know... | 0:12:43 | 0:12:44 | |
still I think used 30 or 40 years later, wasn't it? | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
-Two can. -Two can, exactly. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
And he did do royal portraits, as well. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-So he did royal portraits and I believe he painted Churchill. -Yes. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-And Gielgud and... -All the important people. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-And your mother-in-law, your mother. -That's correct. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
But aren't these drawings absolutely... | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
-These sort of cartoons here, I love. -These are First World War cartoons. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
First World War, so, he wasn't that old, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-because I think he was born in 1898. -Correct. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
So, towards the end of the First World War - he was in his 20s, so he was a young man. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
-Yes, that's true, yes. -And I love this, "a small scotch". Do you know anything about that? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:21 | |
My father-in-law was Scottish | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
and when I was 50, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
my generous mother-in-law presented me with those. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
Oh, how lovely. So was your father-in-law a small man? | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Yes, he was. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Or did he like scotch? -BOTH: Both! | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
When he discovered I came from Durham, he said, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
"Oh, well, he can no' help that". | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
I love it. Well, they're unique, they're very intimate to you, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
and I think that they're absolutely lovely. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
The more I look at them, the more I love them, and the more, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
in my mind, the value's going up. Probably not a good thing, actually! | 0:13:54 | 0:13:59 | |
All we have left of sentimental value, rather than money. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Exactly, exactly. Well, do you want to know what they're worth? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
-Yes, well of course. -Yes, please. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
I've going to say for the four, because it's going to be a bit easier. I think for the four, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
they're worth around sort of £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-Really? -They're jolly nice. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
A collection of enamel lapel badges | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
from various local racing venues, and a racing game. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
You must be a man of the turf. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
No, they belonged to me grandfather | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
and when he died, in 1953, they were left to me. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
So, every time he went to a meeting, he got a lapel badge. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Well, no, he joined the actual racecourse, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
and that was what you used to get when you paid your subscription. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
OK. Well, I also assume, when he couldn't go racing, he took a game that he could play at home. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:55 | |
I don't know exactly where this came from. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
All I know is that he used to own five pubs in Durham | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
and whether somebody came into the pub and offered it to him or not, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
-I don't know. -Well, I'm very excited about the game, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
more than the lapel badges. We might be talking about, I don't know, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
£20, £30, £40 each. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
But you've got quite a lot of them. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:18 | |
They all add up - a few hundred pounds. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
But this is something very special. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
This is made by a manufacturer called William Britain, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
who manufactured these in London. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Very famous for making lead soldiers | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
over a period from 1890 all the way up to... | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
They're still in production today. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
William Britain's obviously long gone, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
but this is a very early, 1880/1890, gaming toy. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:44 | |
So how it worked was that you would actually wind | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
a piece of string around here, give it a tug then this inertia wheel | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
would spin around and that would activate all the horses | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
to race round the course, | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
and obviously one would win. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Well, he obviously loved it and it's obviously been well played with. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
If you had to buy it today, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
you're talking about a figure between £800 and £1,200. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
Ooh. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
If there is one word guaranteed to quicken the pulse | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
of any glass expert on the Roadshow, it is Lalique, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
and Eric Knowles knows a thing or two about Lalique. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
He's given us three vases. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
One of them is worth about £400 - that's the basic one. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
The better one is worth 800. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
And then the best one is worth £2,000. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Now, which is which? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
It's certainly not obvious to me, so I'm going to ask our visitors, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
see if they've got a clue. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
We're fortunate enough to see quite a lot of salt-glazed stone ware | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:57 | |
but with its wonderful border of beautiful flowers, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
there's a little bit more to this than meets the eye. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
But tell me your connection to it. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Well, it belongs to my mother-in-law, one of a pair, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
and the other one has a sunflower on, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
and we looked for something interesting to bring along | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
and then when I looked at the bottom I saw "17-1-82", | 0:17:16 | 0:17:23 | |
I said, "Oh, 1982," and she went, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
"Hardly, Maggie! I'm 90, and I remember it as a very little girl." | 0:17:26 | 0:17:33 | |
And that's... We don't know anything about it. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
So you don't know where it came from or who made it? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
-No, no. She doesn't, either. -Let me unravel the mystery for you a bit more. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
-You pointed out that mark on the bottom. -Yes, 1982. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
"17-1-82." | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-Not 1982, but 1882. -OK. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
And above here, we have a very important mark. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
-"RW Martin, London and Southall". -Oh, right. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Which stands for Robert Wallace Martin, one of the Martin Brothers. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
-Oh. -Who at the end of the 19th century were probably | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
-the most famous studio potters of their time. -Really? -Oh, yes. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
They became renowned | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
for the manufacture of fine stone ware | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
and they're really famous for their wonderful comic grotesque birds, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
-which we call the Wally Birds. -Ah. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
But the nice thing about the Martin Brothers is that every single piece is unique. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
Every single piece is different. But they had a wonderful understanding | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
of the potter's art and all the way through from 1873, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
when they first started in Fulham, to 1915, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-when they closed in Southall, they produced beautiful pots. -Oh. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Now, this one does have one little bit of damage. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-Damage, yes. -Just on the edge of the foot. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
But, that said, your lovely Martin Brothers jug | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
would easily fetch somewhere in the region of £600 to £800. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Oh, really? That's amazing. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
So, I think you can go back now and inform your mother-in-law... | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
You can impart all that information, but continue to love it | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-with a little bit more knowledge. -OK. Thank you very much. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Now, what do you think, in the 18th century, was the greatest fear | 0:19:07 | 0:19:13 | |
and danger to many houses throughout the world, but certainly in Britain? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
-Fire. -Correct. Well done. You're absolutely right. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
This house being a prime example. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
I mean, gutted in the great fire in the early 19th century, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
and the central part of the house clearly never recovered. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
And that was the big problem, and so the ingenuity of dozens and dozens | 0:19:35 | 0:19:43 | |
of inventors and patentees went into making candle wick trimmers. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
Because, you've got to think, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
in the 18th century, candles were not as well refined as the candles | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
we have today, and the wicks did gutter and splutter | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
and grew long and incandescent, and if you just cut it off, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
what happened to the bit that you cut off? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
-It would fall on the floor. -It would fall on the floor, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
and go through a gap in the floorboards, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
where there would be a lovely draught underneath | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and the house would burn down. And so, as I say, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
the ingenuity of all sorts of inventors went into creating | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
candle snuffers that avoided that. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
So, your candle is guttering, it needs trimming, you open that... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
just as a pair of scissors. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Originally, this would have automatically risen as you scissored it. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
As you closed it, cut the wick, it snaps down, trapping the bit of wick in the box. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:39 | |
Very simple, very ingenious and it must have saved many a house. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
This example was made in the second quarter of the 19th century. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
They're not quite Georgian - maybe in the 1840s. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
They are... Where do you think they were made? | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
-Italy or... -No, no, they are English. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
-They're English. -They are, almost without doubt, made in Sheffield. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
-Right. -Possibly Birmingham. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
So, they are a perfect example of one of the measures taken | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
to avoid the great danger of 18th- and early-19th-century houses. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
What are they worth? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
In that condition... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
Interesting, but less than perfect... Probably £100, the lot. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
-Right. -But you can't get away from, I think, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-the fascination of the story. -Well, my grandfather actually... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
Even though he had electricity and gas, he read by candle. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:35 | |
-Right up to his dying day. -And did he use these very ones? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
Yes. That's why they're like that now. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Right, so they've been used and overused for much longer than their normal working life. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
I would think so! | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
We have got three glass vases here. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
One's worth 400, another's worth £800, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
and then the best one of all is worth £2,000. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Have a little look and tell me which you think is which. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I would think, maybe, that one. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
-This one? -Basic. -Basic. -I think. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
-No, this one. -That's the better one. -The better one. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Right, which means by an inexorable process of deduction... | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
-Quite. -..this is the best. -The best one. -Why do you think this is the best one? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
It's old, it looks old. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
-The best is this one? -Probably, because it's more small and dinky. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
It's just prettier and fancier than the other two. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-So, you think this is the best one? -Yes. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
-This is pretty lovely, this one. Are you sure? -You're trying to persuade me. -Well...! | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
-I don't know, I just have a feeling about it. -A feeling? -Yes. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
What do you think? What do you think, Fiona? | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
-You tell me. -Well, now, that would be telling. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-Eric Knowles is going to tell us very shortly. -OK. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-Are you going to stick with these? -Yes, I will do. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
There's one area of antiques that's seen a meteoric rise | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
in the last few years, and that's in all things Chinese. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
You've brought along a very pretty tea set that's typical of tea sets | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
made in Canton and Shanghai in the early 20th century. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
And if we pick this up, and have a look at the bottom, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
it's got the maker's mark - "HC" for Hung Chong. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
Fairly prolific maker in the late 19th century | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
and early 20th century, but decorated in typical prunus leaves, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:35 | |
and has become very sought-after in just the last few years. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:42 | |
But you've also brought along...this. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Now, that's what I call a bowl. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
It seems that you have some connection with the Far East here. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Is that where they were acquired? | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Yes, Great Uncle lived in Shanghai in the early 20th century | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
and he worked for ICI, and then he was captured during the war, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:06 | |
and, after the war, he took everything to South Africa with him, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
and it's passed down the line, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
-so we've got hundreds of Chinese things. -Hundreds? -Hundreds. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Well, that's a good start! | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
This, actually, isn't Chinese. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
-Oh, right. -It's Japanese. -Oh, right. -Japanese is still pretty sought-after, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
but not quite had the same rise in popularity that the Chinese market has seen. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:34 | |
But it's a well-known design with all these wonderful lily leaves | 0:24:34 | 0:24:39 | |
round the side, and it looks like it's had a little bit of damage | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
in places, but it's obviously had quite a history. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
Great parties. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
But the main thing about silver from this part of the world | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
is the Chinese themselves are buying huge quantities. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
A Chinese tea set like that, a few years ago, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
would have made £300. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
Now, that is worth 700, 800, maybe 1,000. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:13 | |
Wow. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:14 | |
This bowl - made again in the early part of the 20th century - | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
is not solid. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
It's actually lined and a lining of silver and hollow inside. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
If I tap it... | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
-HOLLOW TAPPING -Come in! | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
..you can hear that it is hollow inside. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Still, it's staggeringly good size, isn't it? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Apart from being a little dirty! When cleaned up, it will look terrific, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and I think that, also, is a pretty saleable piece. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
-I would comfortably think that would make 4,000. -Right. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:51 | |
This is a copy of Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
As every Harry Potter fan will know, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
that's the second in the series - | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
the one after The Philosopher's Stone - | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
-but this is a rather special volume to you. -Yes. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-Signed, on the title page, by members of the cast. -Yes. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-Can you tell me who's who here? -There's Rupert Grint, who played Ron, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
Emma Watson, who played Hermione, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
-Chris Columbus, who was the director of the first two films... -Right. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
-..Daniel Radcliffe... -Daniel Radcliffe, excellent. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
..and a signature from Sean Haggerty. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-Sean Haggerty, who played Oliver Wood. -Yes. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Okey dokey. How have you come by this volume? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Well, I was an extra on the first two films. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
And I gave it to the director, Chris, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
and he got it signed by the cast and himself. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
-I've got the first book signed, but didn't bring it today. -You've got The Philosopher's Stone? -Yes. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
-But not a first edition. -No, not a first edition. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Well, this is not a first edition, either. On the back of the title page, we should have a full set | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
of numbers there - zero to ten - which we haven't, but I don't think that matters in this instance. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:57 | |
-It's the signatures and the history that it all means to you. -Yes. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
That sounds to be a very sort of glamorous actress lifestyle you were leading as a young lady. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
Not really, it just got me out of school for a few weeks! | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
This is a document that says you were allowed to take time off school and go and be an extra in the films. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
-Yes. -What did you actually do? -Just got dressed up as a witch | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
and was around in the background, basically! It wasn't very glamorous. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
-It sounds like fun. -Yes. -And you got paid for this? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Just £35 a day. Nothing to break the bank. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-But when I was eleven, that was quite a lot. -A fortune. -Yes, a fortune. -Excellent stuff. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
Well, you got to see the stars of the show, and I guess this means a great deal to you. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Yes, it was a really good experience. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Yes, well it's a very nice volume. Because it isn't a first edition, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-it doesn't have that sort of high, high value. -Yes. -But I, nevertheless, say, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
if you ever came to sell it, in the current market, it would be | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
very well received, and something like £400 to £600 would be | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
an auction price that I would be quite confident of achieving. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Oh, right, brilliant. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
-Thanks very much for coming along today. -OK. Thank you very much. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
When it comes to Lalique, who can forget one particular item | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
that came Eric Knowles' way a couple of years back at a Roadshow in Scotland? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
It's been up in our loft. We were cleaning out our loft | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
and we came across this, and we were going to bin it. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
-We thought it was just a heap of junk. -Yeah. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
So, we were going to bin it and then we thought, no, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
we'll hold on to it - we heard the Antiques Roadshow was coming. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
And that's how I've held on to it, but I bought it at a car boot. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
And it had a plant inside it, a kind of purple plant. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
That was the reason we bought it - for the plant - | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
-because it was quite nice in the bowl. -Yeah. Do you know who made it? | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
-No, I don't know anything about it. -Oh, right, well can I tell you? -Yes. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
OK. If you look very carefully, there's actually a name on it, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
and the name is sort of lurking behind here. We'll turn it around. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
And that name is Lalique. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
And, so... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
-Have you heard of Lalique? -Lalique? No. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Lalique, no? OK. Well, you're on a rapid learning curve today. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
-So car boot. -Yes. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
For plant, how much were they asking for the plant? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
-I only paid £1! The vase and the plant. -You paid a pound, right, OK. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:18 | |
-Well, it's worth a mere £25,000. -Oh, my God. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:23 | |
Looking back at that, it was a heck of a moment, wasn't it? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
It was. I waited 28 years for that moment. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
28 years on the Antiques Roadshow, that is, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
so, yeah, very special, very special indeed. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
-Now, we've got more Lalique. -Yeah. -You like your Lalique, Eric, I know. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
-Yeah. -So you set us a challenge. There's a basic vase here worth, what, £400, is it? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
-£400. -The better one, £800, and then the best one 2,000. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
-Correct. -Everyone thought something different amongst those I asked. -Oh, good. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
Now, I feel confident that this one is the basic one. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:58 | |
-OK. -It was an absolute toss-up between these two. -Yes. -I think they're both beautiful. I thought, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
that's better and this is the best, just because I like it best. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
-But I couldn't be any more scientific than that. -So, you want to know which one's right, do you? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
-I do, and I have a horrible feeling I've got it wrong. -Well, bit of yes and a bit of no. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:15 | |
-Fiona, forgive me, I've taken a bit of a liberty with you. -Right. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
-Because we've gone back a few series. -Nothing new in that, Eric. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
No, but, either way, I hate to say that I've played a little bit of a trick in so far as... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
Let me, first of all, tell you that this is the basic one. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
This is the better one. Now, when I say "trick", I'm simply mentioning this to you. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
To all intents and purposes, anybody would be forgiven for thinking | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
that was a Lalique vase, because it's actually very well designed, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
and the use of the opalescent is fantastic. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-But this is not Lalique. -Oh. -This is a firm called Verlys. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
There were lots of other people making opalescent glass in France, who were his contemporaries. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
Sabino is another name, and Barolac in Czechoslovakia. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
But that is quite a special piece, and that is why it's worth £400. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
So, even though it looks like Lalique, it could be as beautiful as Lalique, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
because it's not actually Lalique...it's basic. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
This particular one is just that bit exceptional, because it's a great design. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
So often the design is quite... wanting, for better of another word. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
But this one... I can tell you now... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
This is your better, and this is called "Acacia" | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
and it's beautifully stained, it's a lovely shape, it's a great design. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
Lalique is the master of design. He transforms what is, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
to all intents and purposes, a simple, moulded glass vase, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and he turns it into a work of art. It's a rare talent. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Now, from a value point of view, we're looking at around about £800. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
So, 400, 800, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
but when it comes to 2,000, right next to you. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
Because, well... I hate to say - | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
it is bigger, but there's better definition, it's a great design. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:03 | |
The staining which has all been applied, just lifts those feathers. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
-It's called Plumes. -And is it rarer? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
It is rarer. So, it's got the two qualifications - | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
rarity and size on its side, so I have to say... | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
I knew there was something going for it! | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
-Well, you got that one right. -Well, there you are. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
Ten out of ten, at least for this one. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
Size and rarity - that's what you're looking for in Lalique. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
If you think you might have some Lalique at home, Eric would certainly like to see it. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
Why not bring it along to one of our Roadshows? | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
You can see the dates and our locations on our website: | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Unfortunately, I can't tell you a great deal | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
apart from I inherited it from my mother, but I think | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
it might be a bit older than that - possibly her mother, grandparents, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
something like that, but that would be about the turn of the century. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
No information was imparted to you, this is a special locket | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-within the family context? -I'm sorry, nothing at all, no. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
So, there's nothing, really, we can add to that. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
My mother died some years ago, so I can't go and ask questions. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
Well, it follows and conforms with the design of many lockets. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
It's never been a locket that opened, though, has it? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
No, you would remove that back and perhaps use it to contain... | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
perhaps hair, or indeed, these days, of course, a photograph. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
And it's pink and green enamel on a black background. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
-Oh, I thought that was just painted. -No, no, it's enamelled. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
And then to almost augment that, to reinforce that issue, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
on the tapered pendant loop, there's another flower, as well. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
It's mounted on a modern gold chain, and I'm terribly disappointed | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
to tell you that the chain is not very exciting at all. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
No, I'm not interested in the chain, anyway. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
It's the locket that's got a bit of a focus to it and the reason is - | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
and I've been perhaps a little bit naughty | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
because I'm showing it the wrong way round, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
because this is the back of the locket | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
and you can see all the delicacy of the design there with that | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
stylised spray, but when you turn it over, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
the front of the locket is surely a tour de force of decoration. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:17 | |
That is a very serious design on the front of that locket. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
So, it's a cloisonne effect, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
where they fill individual little cells with colour. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
And the work is incredibly deft, and when you look at the complexity | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
of the design here, it's really very, very concentrated. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
It's tiny, individual little cells of colour | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
forming a stylised naturalistic floral study. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:45 | |
Now, the story about it is, in the 19th century in France, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
in around about 1860-70, there was a jeweller called Falise. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
Now, Falise was one of these very important pioneering goldsmiths | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
who was active at that time, and he had a son. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
So, there were father and son working together, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
and they specialised in this kind of incredibly intricate detail of work. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
They were inspired by the East - | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Japan, India, Persia - and they executed these designs | 0:35:13 | 0:35:19 | |
with incredible complexity of style and panache. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Now, this isn't signed, but I think it shouts Falise. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
So, there's the front again. Let's look at the back once more. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
Enamelled device on the back, and that's another feature of Falise - | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
it's not just enough to do the front, let's do the back as well. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
The value of Falise is reasonably substantial. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:51 | |
If... Now, I'm going to be a little careful here. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
IF, after research, it was established, categorically, that it was Falise, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-then would you feel happy with £1,000 for it? -Much happier, yes. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
-Well, it's not worth £1,000, unfortunately. -Oh, shame. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
-I think it's worth £3,000 to £5,000. -Good Lord! | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Wow! I'd no idea it was that. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
Well, it's only a little glass, but, boy, does it tell a big story. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
-It certainly does. -Go on. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
They were sold to raise money for the widows of the miners | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
killed in the Hartley Pit Disaster in 1862. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
And where's Hartley Pit? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-That way. Not very far. -And how far? -Ooh, five miles at the most. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
Five miles. So, the nature of the accident was, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
as far as I understand it, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
that there was a beam across the deep shaft | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
and the cage that took the miners down that big, big pit... | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
The beam broke, and the cage collapsed right to the bottom | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
-and the elements of the beam jammed the cage down the bottom. -That's right. | 0:36:54 | 0:37:00 | |
And 199 of them died down below | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and five died on the surface, attempting to rescue them. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
And it was a disaster that changed the face of mining | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
in that, from that day forward, two shafts needed to be sunk for a pit, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:17 | |
because if you blocked one, nobody could get out. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
So, what's your connection with it? | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
It actually belongs to my mother-in-law and she was left it | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
by someone who lived in the village, when they died. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
So, when you consider what this glass represents, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
to do a valuation on it seems almost a travesty. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
But we must, because that's the essence of the Roadshow. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
And so if you were to put this glass into auction, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
you'd probably get no more than £150 for it. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
But what's the message that this glass sends to us? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Well, it's written very clearly on here and it says, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
"Accidents will happen". | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
That's right. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
Now, just tell me... We're in Northumberland. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
How come you've got this fantastic GERMAN table regulator? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
This clock has been handed down through my family for about five generations. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
The story goes - can't be 100% sure it's accurate - | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
that there were three sisters. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
One of them wanted to marry a Danish Count, and the family was against it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
But her two sisters helped persuade her parents to allow the marriage | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
to go ahead, so the Count had three clocks made, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
and this is one of them. He gave two to the sisters who had helped persuade the parents, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:39 | |
and one to his wife as a wedding present. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
That is a great story. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
It's a great story. I can't guarantee the accuracy but it's... | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
And there's every possibility it could be right - | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
this would have been an amazingly expensive thing | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
when it was new, and to commission three, well... | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
-Yeah. He was a Count. -Yes, but not all counts are wealthy! | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Clearly, this one was. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
-So, I have to say that W Bofenschen is not a maker that I know particularly well at all. -Right. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:08 | |
But looking at the case style, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
the bronze and the gilt-bronze, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
we'd be looking around about the 1830s-1840s. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
-Right. -And I see from this rectangular-footed base, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
-it should have a glass dome. Do you have that? -I have one. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
It's not the original one, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
but I do have a glass dome it's normally under, yes. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Right. OK, well, let's just look at the clock. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
First of all we've got this wonderful running seconds | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
around this outer chapter ring, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
and then you've got twin subsidiaries there, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
for the minutes and the hours. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
But the most beautiful thing about it is its visible escapement, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
which is a coup perdu spring-detent escapement. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
It's absolutely superb. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
And then, running down to the pendulum, which I'm briefly going to stop... | 0:39:51 | 0:39:57 | |
Not only is that incredibly heavy, but look at the complexity. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
It's bi-metallic, so you've got strips of brass and steel, | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
and then you've got this wonderful temperature scale here. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
And at the moment, it being a rather warm day, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
it's going up from average towards the warm. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-On a very cold day, it would be right down here towards the German kalt - cold. -Yes. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
Just set it going again. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
That is as lovely a pendulum as I've ever seen. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
Does this actually indicate the temperature? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
-This pendulum compensates for the change of temperature. -Ah, right. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
What accuracy are you getting out of it at home? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
It loses about two or three minutes over a week, between windings. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
-Then it needs serious adjustment. -Right. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
You should get this to... I would say to you, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
within...a couple of seconds a week, I'd like to see this. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
-Is it possible for me to adjust it? -Yes. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Because if I stop the pendulum, and we just turn around... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
-From the back, you can see here, your fine adjustment on the pendulum. -Oh, right. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
By moving this knob, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
that effectively is like a rack and pinion, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
it's moving the suspension spring up and down | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
within there, and here you've got a knob. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-That's much more for coarse adjustments. -Right. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
It is absolutely gorgeous. Well, I'll tell you something - | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
German precision table regulators are very scarce, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
very scarce indeed. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
As a result, it's actually quite a difficult thing for me to price, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
-not that you'll ever sell it, I'm sure. -No. It's my daughter's. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
Your daughter's. What a lucky girl! | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
I'm going to say to you that, at auction, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
I can see this making between... | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
-20,000 and 25,000. -Oh, wow! | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
It is a sensational and highly technical object. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Very, very hard to find another, although you say there are two more! | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
And I'll tell you something - technically, it's the finest clock I've ever seen on the Roadshow. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
Oh, my word! Oh, God! | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
I'm pleased I brought it along for you, then. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
So I am I, absolutely. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:05 | |
We get some colourful characters at the Antiques Roadshow - | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
we've had our fair share of them today - | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
but none, may I say, as colourful as this chap. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
Sir Francis Delaval. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
In the 18th century, resident of Seaton Delaval Hall. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
Now, he liked practical jokes, and going to bed as a guest at Delaval Hall | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
while he was in residence, was a pretty unnerving experience. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
For example, guests would be going to bed, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
undressing and suddenly find that one of the walls | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
of the bedroom would be raised by a mechanical hoist, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
and suddenly they would be exposed, in their nakedness, to the public view. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
And if you think that's bad, even worse... | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
There was one bedroom with a four-poster bed | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
and by dint of a mechanical winch on the other side of the wall, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
the four-poster bed would be lowered, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
complete with occupants, into a tank of cold water | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
in the middle of the night! | 0:42:58 | 0:42:59 | |
Certainly not somewhere I'd like to have stayed. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
The reason we know what he looks like, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
is this is one of the paintings saved by the local community | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
from the fire here at Seaton Delaval Hall. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
So here he is, Sir Francis Delaval, prankster extraordinaire. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 |