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It'll come as no surprise to you | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
to learn that we are very weather dependent on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
and the series so far has experienced | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
some of the wettest weather since records began. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
So today we've been praying for a break in the clouds, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
and it looks like our venue has answered our prayers, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
because one has just appeared. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
But then, this was a very important place of worship | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
nearly 800 years ago. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
Welcome to the ruins of Fountains Abbey | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
near Ripon in North Yorkshire. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
You might think it's crazy to set up a Roadshow in a ruin. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
I mean, what if this brief burst of sunshine doesn't last, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
and it starts to rain again? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Well, usually we use a marquee, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
but this time we have the oldest wet-weather cover we've ever used. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Known as the solarium, it started out life as a refectory, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and then it was used as a store for the Abbey's food and produce, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
and amazingly, it's in almost as good a nick now | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
as it was when it was built back in 1170. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
Quite an achievement for 13 disillusioned monks | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
with a dream to set up a monastery in the middle of nowhere. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
The Cistercian monks led austere lives, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
and spent most of the day in silent meditation and prayer. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
They were known as the White Monks, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
because of the coarse sheep's wool robes they wore, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
and they didn't wear underwear beneath them, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
just to make them that bit more uncomfortable. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
It took 80 years to build Fountains Abbey, and as it grew, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
so too did its economic and political clout. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
It was a highly organised and self-sufficient community, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
and eventually became one of the wealthiest monasteries in Britain, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
lived in by 500 people - that's equivalent to a medieval town. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
Fountains Abbey was home to the monks for four centuries, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
until Henry VIII ordered its dissolution, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
since when it's remained a ruin, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
albeit one of the biggest and best-preserved in Europe. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
And let's hope our visitors, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
flocking in from nearby towns like Ripon and Harrogate | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
won't need to take advantage of the wet-weather cover | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
kindly provided by the monks. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
This is just the kind of thing you'd need | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
if you'd been standing in a long queue at the Antiques Roadshow | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
-for a couple of hours. -Yeah. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
A seat or stool, and formed from three lovely squidgy cushions, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
and you think, "Wow that's going to be comfortable," until you do that. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
HOLLOW KNOCKING | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Then you realise they're not three squidgy cushions at all, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
-it's all made from pottery, isn't it? -Yes. -Where did you get it? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
Well, I bought it in auction, it was damaged, it cost £100, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:44 | |
you know, which I felt was a good price. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
-Right. But it was damaged? -Yes. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Faulty goods. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:49 | |
Cost £500 - I had to repair it. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-So, £500? -Yes, yeah. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
But it's worth it. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
Yeah, well, absolutely. | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
I mean, look - the restoration's been beautifully done, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
so that's fine. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:03 | |
But, I mean, you don't know where it's from or anything like that. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
No, no history, no. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
Well, it's a garden seat, and that's the name we give | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
to seats which are often made out of pottery or porcelain, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
and they're made for use in the garden or in a conservatory, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
where it's damp and wet, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
and you couldn't have wooden furniture or upholstered furniture. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
-Yeah. -This is ideal. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
Um... | 0:04:22 | 0:04:23 | |
What's interesting about this, apart from the fantastic modelling - | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
you know, it's just a brilliant idea, isn't it, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
three cushions like this - | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
but it's the wonderful painting on it. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
This is a style of painting that I recognise so well. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-It originates, actually, in Wales in the 1820s. -Oh, right. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
And it makes it really interesting and easy to date a piece like this, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-just by virtue of these wonderful flower sprays. -Yes, yeah. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
And we're looking at a date of around 1835 or 1840. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Lovely. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
I don't think it actually matters who made it, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
or when it was made, just look at it. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-Right. -It's glorious. -Yeah. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
Actually, I don't know who made it. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
That's the problem, there's not a mark on it. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Minton would have been a candidate, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
but it's not in the Minton shape books - | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
I've checked. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
Right. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
So we just have to say an English pottery garden seat. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
Still a mystery. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
-Still a mystery, but it's English, and we've dated it. -Good. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-Good. -And your £100 purchase price... | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
£500 restoration job... | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
you must have felt a bit anxious after that, did you? | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
-It's a beautiful piece, and I love it to bits. -Yeah. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
-So you don't care, really? -I don't care about the cost. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
You just invested the money because you wanted... | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
-I've never seen another one. -No, you won't see another one. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
I've never seen one. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
No. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
But I think the fact that it's restored doesn't matter. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
I don't think anyone will care. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
They will just look at this, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
and they will fall in love, as I have done, as you did. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
And I think they'd pay... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:50 | |
-..£3,000 for it. -Lovely, yes. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-Maybe more. -Yes. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
Good for the family's future. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
Absolutely. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
Yes. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Now, I'm very fond of clocks, but I'll tell you something, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I'm quite glad I don't own this, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
because I wouldn't want to move it around the house too much. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
No, it doesn't get moved a lot, no, you're all right. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
-HE LAUGHS -What sort of weight is it? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
It's about 125lb, somewhere there. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
It's a massive calendar mantel clock. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
And obviously, something big like this, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
it's been a presentation or something of that sort. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Me mother bought it 60 year ago at a house clearance sale. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-What did she pay? Do you remember? -30 shillings. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
30 shillings? | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
-That's, what, £1.50 in new money, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
You said it came with a pair of vases. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Yes, but she gave them away, she didn't want 'em. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
Well, I mean it would have been new then, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
it would have been a very generous present. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
-It would, wouldn't it? -Ooh, yeah. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
The black slate - and I say black slate because this is slate, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-it's not black marble. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Obviously, the brown is marble, but this is black slate, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and it was used, basically, as a symbol of mourning | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
after the death of Prince Albert. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Ah. -And this is the sort of full-blown example of it, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
within two decades after his death. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
You can see the visible Brocot escapement there, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
with the ruby pallets, obviously striking nicely. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
You've got a lovely barometer there, beautifully enamelled, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
absolutely lovely, and then this is the piece that I adore, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
is this perpetual calendar. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
-And you've seen that click... -That doesn't work. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
-It doesn't work? -No. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
-It would be quite easy to get it going, I'm sure. -Yes. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
But I mean, you've got the moon, the phases of the moon in there, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
and then you've got, obviously, day, date and month, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
and it will be perpetual, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
-it will absolutely counteract for each leap year as well. -Yeah. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-Yes. -It should be that good. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
It's a top-of-the-range item, very, very busy, even down to the bezels. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
When you think that most bezels are just gilt brass, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
but this - you've actually got it all chased. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
It's been beautifully done with gold flower heads. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
It's superb quality. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
Is it French? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
-French throughout. -That's what I thought, yeah. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Apart from the fact of the case, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
which might have been made of Belgian slate. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
The only thing that I'm slightly not happy about is the eagle. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
I bought that a year ago, just to set it off. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
-To set it off! -HE LAUGHS | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-To make it even taller! -Yes! THEY LAUGH | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
I don't what was... could have been a lion on top. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I mean, I think that this is absolutely right, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
-can I just remove that? -Yeah. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
But that's obviously pretty new, and I'm not... | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
I don't think it goes with it terribly well, to be honest. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
Well, I like it. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:38 | |
-That's all that matters. -THEY LAUGH | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-Size is slightly against it. -Yeah. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
If it was a little bit smaller, it'd be rather more money, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
but at auction it's still going to make | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
£2,500 to £3,000. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
Mm-hmm, yeah. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:51 | |
-Are you happy with that? -Yes, yes, yes. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Good. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
I'll tell you something, it's not a bad investment on 30 bob, is it? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Ah, no, no, no. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Takes a lot of polishing. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
What a wonderful collection of Inuit carvings. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Where did you get them? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
In the late '60s, I was a dental officer on Baffin Island, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
in the high Arctic, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
travelling from settlement to settlement, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
and providing dental care. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
In the process, I got very interested in their carvings. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
But each of these is carved by a man - | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
or a woman - | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
that I treated, and so some of them were for payment for the dentistry, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:36 | |
but others I would negotiate and buy off them. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
And did they have good teeth? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
Oh, no, their teeth was absolutely terrible, really. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
I extracted over 7,000 teeth in three years. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
My goodness. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
And what about this one? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
This is, I think, the most interesting. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Um... | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
The carver is a man, or was a man called Noah - he's dead now - | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
one of the most famous of the carvers, born in 1900, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
and he needed new dentures. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
So I made him some new dentures, and because I knew he was a carver, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
I said, would he carve me something? | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
And he came back a few days later with this. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
And it is a man who has a very bad abscess on a tooth, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
which is closing his eye, there. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
That's fascinating, and of course, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
you've got wonderful examples of the Inuit, with their Shamanist... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
-That's right. -..inspiration, and also their transformation. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
-A man transforming. -This one, yes. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
This is a Shaman, he's dancing, he's beating his drum, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
and he's going into a trance and changing into a wolf. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
This is a very interesting piece, it's by a 14-year-old girl, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
-and it's a piece of caribou thigh bone carved as a musk ox. -Musk ox. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
And this is a seal hunter, and as soon as they kill a seal, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
they blow some water into the mouth of the seal, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
and say a little prayer, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
thanking the seal for the food that he's giving to them. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
-And this - I love this - again a Shamanistic subject. -That's right. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
That was Joe Curley, and he was a Shaman. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
He had three wives and 24 children, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and that again is a Shaman, but changing into an arrow. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Of course, Shamans were the witch doctors of the Inuit. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
-Yes. -And very important in their society. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
And inherited, so you could only be a Shaman | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
if your father or mother was a Shaman. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
And, of course, a lot of these carvings were made of soapstone. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
That's right, and interestingly, each village has its own supply, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
so just by looking at the colour, you would know this is Lake Havar. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
By looking at that, you would know that was Eskimo Point, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
and so they're absolutely characteristic of each village. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
And a tremendous amount of the carvings here | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
were inspired by and supported by James Houston, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
who actually went and lived with the Inuit in Cape Dorset. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
That's right, an Englishman, an artist in his own right, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
who settled in the Arctic and saw the potential, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
encouraged them to do carvings and also paintings and prints. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
These pieces came from really what we call the "Golden Era" | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
-of Inuit carving. -Yes, yes. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
And of course these are the pieces now that are being sought after, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
and in terms of when you were buying them, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
you were obviously swapping for dental work | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
or doing a bit of bartering. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
That's right, two or three extractions and a carving. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
Well, it certainly was the best-paid dental work | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
I think you will have had, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
because a carving like this nowadays would sell | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
for anywhere between £4,000 and £5,000. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
And the same with the Shaman turning into the wolf - | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
that's an important subject, especially with the drum, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-so again, the same. -Yes, indeed. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
So we're looking at probably here, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
in excess of £15,000. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Well, they're not for sale, because, as I said, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
each one has a very personal relationship to me. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
And I hope you've written that down. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I'm in the process of doing it, yes. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Good. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
So, where do you keep this? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
This is kept in our dining room. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
Right... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
I inherited it from my mother, who died in February, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
but it's come from my great aunt, who was born in 1886. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
I don't know the date of it. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
I'd love to know if it came from my great-grandfather. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
Well, I'm not sure if you're aware - it was never a dining room piece. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
-Ah. -It was always intended for the kitchen. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Ah, I thought so. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
It is a dresser base, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
and the rack would have been tied or screwed to the wall. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Ah, that explains... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
There's no evidence of marks on here, where - | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
what we call shoes - there's no marks there. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
So the rack would have been tied to the wall or screwed to the wall. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
It's not very deep, so you can actually get to it. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
I understand, thank you, yes, that's interesting. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
This is made out of oak. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
The linings, when you open the drawers, is pine. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
So it's a country piece. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
It was never - as I say - a sophisticated town piece. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
Um... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
The handles have been put on later. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Originally, when we look at it as a whole, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
you see these lovely brass swan neck handles - they weren't there. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
They just had handles just below the escutcheon there. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
-Oh, I understand, yes. -And that's why we've got that little shadow. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
-I wondered about that. -You see? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
The date of it is around 1800, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
so it's George III period, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
and it's standing on little pad feet | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
just to give it a little bit of elegance. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
The condition is very, very good. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
I love the idea we've got these three long boards and no splits. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
They haven't warped or undulated, and the colour is very, very good. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
The shame is that the handles have been replaced, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
because the collectors, who go nuts for this, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
they want to tick all the boxes knowing it's all original. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
It's worth, in this condition, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
um... | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
around £1,200 to £1,500. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
-If it had the original handles... -Mmm... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
..it goes up to £2,000. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
So we've got to pull it back because it's not quite original. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
I still love it as it is. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
I love animals, and I love horses, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
and that's what attracted me to this piece. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
What's the story behind it? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
It belonged to my husband's grandparents. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
It's been in the family for about - I think - 100 years. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
Um... And the story was that Grandpa went to Paris with his wife, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:53 | |
and she saw it, and I think she burst into tears | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
because she was so moved by it, and he bought it for her. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
It made me feel very poignant, and I mean, it's such a beautiful thing. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:08 | |
I mean, I don't know much about the artist, to be honest. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
It's signed, "E Drappier" - | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
that's Edmond Ernest Drappier, I believe - and it's dated 1906. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:21 | |
And it was cast in a French foundry, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-but it's got all the accoutrements of war. -Yes. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
And "Epave" on the front which I think means wreck in French. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
-Yes. -And it's the wreck of a horse, really, the wreck of a relationship. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
-I mean, it's actually quite topical... -Yes, it is. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
-..because of the film War Horse. -Yes, absolutely. Because of Joey. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
Which was a powerful testimony to the relationship | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
between a soldier and his horse, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and this bronze is real storytelling - | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
it's storytelling by the fact that something's missing. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
It tells a story because of the thing that's not there, | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
and that's the rider. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
And I find that so moving, and it's just beautifully modelled, and... | 0:17:02 | 0:17:08 | |
it does everything for me. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
There's the butt of his rifle, there's a broken wagon wheel. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
A helmet. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Helmet, it's from the Franco-Prussian War. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
-I would have thought. -Yes, that's what we think, yes. -From the date. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
And from the helmet. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
And... | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
You know, I've looked up auction records for this | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
and it actually makes a reasonable amount of money. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
I think one like this came up in April this year, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
and it made £3,000. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Yes, I can believe that. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
It's worth every bit of it, isn't it? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
-Beautifully done. -Well, I just think it's wonderful. -Yes. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
The phrase, "Talk softly but carry a big stick" comes to mind. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
-It's pretty impressive, isn't it? -It is indeed. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
And where does it come from? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
It's a Fijian war club. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
But it was bought in this country, though, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
so we didn't export it illegally. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
And we were on leave from Fiji in 1969, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
and I went into the local pub in a village in County Durham, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
saw this on the wall, and knew exactly what it was, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:10 | |
and so I offered the publican a price for it, and he said, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
"Well, I'll think about it," | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
and three years later, when I was on leave again, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
I went back into the pub and I said, "Have you thought about it?" | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
-and he said, "Yes, I'll sell it to you." -And it was still on the wall? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Well, by that time he'd decided that hunting prints were the decor, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
so he'd put this into a store room, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
and he kept his word, he sold it to me. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
And do you have a connection? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Yes, and this is my grandson, who is my Fijian war club carrier. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
-So it's quite appropriate, then? -Yes. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:42 | 0:18:43 | |
Do you know much about how they were made, or the age, and..? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
I don't know too much about how they're made. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
I think it's a couple of hundred years old, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
because it's a very fine specimen. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Yeah. It really is a fine specimen. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
You get whacked by that, you're going to know about it. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
But the way they would make them is - | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
as a sapling, they would bend them, tie them off, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
you would choose the one you wanted, which would be... | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Cos this, in its natural form without carving, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
would be incredibly strong. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
They would tie it off and let it grow like that. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
When it got to a big size, chop it around and decorate it. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
And I think it's an indigenous wood called vesi or something like that. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
-Vesi. -Vesi, yeah. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
It's just such an impressive piece. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I mean, if you're the tribal leader, you're the club carrier, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
so eventually you're going to get it. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
-Eventually. -THEY LAUGH | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
I mean, they are really sought-after. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
I mean, this one has taken a bit of a battering. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Er... You know, there's a few marks on it, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
but it's so beautifully carved, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
and over the last few years, the market for these has shot up, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
everyone is trying to get back what was originally theirs - | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
you know - their heritage, as it were. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
And it would have a good value. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
Mm-hmm. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
£8,000? | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
Whoo! | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
-It's good money. -HE LAUGHS | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
We know there isn't a better specimen in the Fiji Museum. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
-Well, that's why I would value it to that. -Yes. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
And I think that could be conservative, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
because these are so sought-after. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
-You like it more, don't you? -THEY LAUGH | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
I'm not saying anything! | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
And I'll hand it to you, then, as the club carrier, it's yours. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
You should have it like this, James. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
-Like this? -No, like that. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
-Both hands. -Right. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
-No Fijian chief carries his own war club. -Well, there you go. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
He always has a carrier. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
But you'll soon have your own carrier. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Oh! One day, hopefully. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Thank you. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
When it comes to our Basic, Better & Best challenge this week, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
I like to think I might have a reasonable chance | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
of getting it right this time, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
because we're looking at handbags, vintage handbags. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
I like to think I know a little bit about those, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
well, certainly I like to wear them on my arm, anyway. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Our specialist, Ronnie Archer Morgan, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
has brought three handbags along | 0:20:57 | 0:20:58 | |
from the '30s, '40s and '50s. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
The basic one is worth £200, the better, £1,000, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
and the best, the princely sum of £2,000. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
So, I'm going to enjoy looking at these, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
and we'll see what our visitors think, as well. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Which do you think is which? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
Um...I think the basic one is the green. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Which do you think is which? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
-This is the bottom one. -That's basic, OK. -Yes. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
I'd be tempted with that one. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
It's the only one that would tempt me, yes. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
The better, I would say, would be this one. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Can I ask you, which of these handbags would you choose | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
as the best for your fair wife? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
I think I'd choose this one. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
That's the best, OK. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
And the best, the little jewelled handbag. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
I would say this one here. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
And this is the best. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Do you think I've ever bought a handbag for her after 50 years? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
This is a lovely French 18th-century picture of Diana and Actaeon. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
So where did you get this from? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
Um... I actually found it in a junk shop in Australia, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
in the Southern Highlands, near a place called Barrol. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
-Many years ago? -Um... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
About eight years ago, so quite recently. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
-And have you done some research on it? -Yeah. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
Did a bit of research, looked on the internet for ages, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
and came up with a print, or an etching, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
which seems to relate to the picture. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
-Could I have a look at that? -Yeah. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
And by Pierre Berchet, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and it's almost...it's the reverse image of this picture, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
because Diana and Actaeon as a subject matter | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-was painted quite a lot in the 18th century. -Right. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
And he was born in 1659. As you probably know, he died in 1720. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
Yeah. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
Now, is this by him? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Well, looking at the quality, this is actually quite good quality, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and I would certainly say this is French, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
and the story is, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Actaeon comes along and looks at Diana, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
and of course, not supposed to do that - | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
she's nude - and he starts turning into a stag, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
and then eventually the hounds jump onto him and he's killed. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
Right. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:03 | |
But it is beautifully done, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
and the quality, actually, of the face here is very, very good. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Now, it was very dirty, was it, when you got it? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
Yeah, it looked interesting, but I'm not an expert on art by any means. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-It was filthy... -Mmm. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
..and I had it restored, and the person that did it | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
said it was covered in flies and filth, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
and it was really thick and dirty, you couldn't really see anything, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
and it was only... Until she cleaned it, you could see... | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-Well, it's cleaned really well. -Yeah. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
Now, is it a copy of this picture, or another version? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Yeah. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:32 | |
Well, I can't stand here and tell you that is definitely by him. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
-Yeah. -But it's certainly "school of." | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
-And it is 18th century. -Yeah. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Um... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
What did you pay for it? | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
Off the top of my head, about £600. £600-£700. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Well, I think, just on pure decorative quality, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
-and taking into account the age on this... -Yeah. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
I think it's worth about £6,000 to £8,000 in the current market, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
-it's really nice. -Yeah. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
You obviously spent some money having it restored. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Yes, a bit, yeah, yeah. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
So, did you put the frame on here? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
I did. It was my attempt to try and get something | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
that I thought went with it, and it looks quite new and shiny, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
I have to say, at the moment, looking at it here. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
It would be quite nice to have an 18th-century frame on here, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
because it would make it look much more important. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
And it just so happens | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
that Rupert's been looking at one just before I came on. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Right. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
-So I'm going to hand this to you... -Thanks. -..and have a look at it. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
-Now, take one end of this, Dendy. -OK, OK, OK. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
-Let's have a look, now, let's just see. -Over there. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Now, what do you think about that? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
Would you like this on the picture? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Yeah, it looks good, doesn't it? With a bit of age to it, I think. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Looks really good. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
And so, having valued it at £6,000 to £8,000, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
I think that with that on, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
because the frame must be worth - as it's partially carved - | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
a couple of thousand pounds, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
I think it makes it more like £10,000, doesn't it? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
I think it really looks the business. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
Gives you an idea of what it's going to look like, that's the main thing. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
-Yeah. -You can just see it hanging in someone's palazzo. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
And I think it makes it... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
It makes it a much more important thing in the period frame. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Pictures maketh a room. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
Yeah. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:58 | |
-HE LAUGHS -Marvellous. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
-Brilliant. Thank you, thanks a lot. -There you are, job done. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
-I'm afraid you can't have the frame. -HE LAUGHS | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Well, this looks like an extraordinarily luxurious object. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Tell me about it with you. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
Well, I inherited it from my mother, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
who I think must have inherited from her great-grandmother, possibly. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Um... Apart from that, I know very little about it. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
My mother never wore it, it would not have been her style - | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
I think it's a bit ostentatious. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
I do remember as a child raiding the dressing table | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
and taking it out, occasionally playing - | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
-I think that's probably where it got slight damage. -Aah! | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-You didn't bite it, did you? -Possibly! | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
-Yes, I thought I could see teeth... -Fed it to the dog or something! | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Yes, quite! But what we can be absolutely certain of | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
is that it's actually sold in London, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
because the lid satin of the case | 0:25:42 | 0:25:43 | |
tells us it was sold in Oxford Street, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and it's presented in the most extraordinarily luxurious way. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
What it is presenting, into this wonderful sunlight today, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
is the illusion of pure gold. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
And I'll say the illusion of pure gold, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
because it is made of a gold alloy, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
but the surface has actually been enriched with gilding, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
and there was a purpose in all of this. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Because this is what we call Etruscan jewellery. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
It's in the Etruscan manner, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
and Victorian society was driven nearly mad | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
by archaeological pursuits. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
The love of the past transcended anything | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
the Antiques Roadshow could do. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
There were books about the past, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
there were photographs of ancient jewellery, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
and it actually inspired people to dress up as Etrurian princesses | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
in smoggy old London, and this was a prevalent style. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
And this rich gold surface is actually harking back | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
to the ancient jewellery found in Etruria and Ancient Greece | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
and in Rome, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:34 | |
and it's an odd concept to have a pious Victorian lady | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
walking around wearing these. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
We know it belonged to a Victorian lady, we know it's 1860, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
we know that she's prosperous enough to afford gold, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
to shop in Oxford Street for the finest jewellery, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
so we can raise her ghost a little. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
But she was almost certainly a widow. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Right. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
We see here in the front that there are vine leaves and grapes. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
The vine is actually an emblem of death. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
And so we have quite a joyful thing, um...blazing with gold, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
but it's harking to somebody who's gone from her life. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Oh, right, this is fascinating. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-And this is unusual to have gold jewellery for mourning. -Mmm. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
More often than not it was made of jet or steel or something like that. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
But perhaps she's long into mourning, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
and coming into a new part of her life, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
but we can, I think, be absolutely certain that that's the case. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
So, value. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
Um... In a funny way, perhaps one doesn't necessarily want jewellery | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
that is evocative of, frankly, the grave. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
But I think this is extraordinarily wearable. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Anybody would be pleased to give in the region of | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
£800 to £1,200 for this suite of jewellery, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
and they'd walk away with a complete entity from the past | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
that they could wear and enjoy, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
and it's thrilling to see it, thank you very much. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
Mm, well, thank you. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:42 | |
Now, earlier on, I was telling you about these vintage handbags | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
that our specialist Ronnie Archer Morgan has brought in | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
for our Basic, Better & Best challenge. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
I've been showing them to our visitors. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
They've all come up with a different idea | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
of which is the basic, worth £200, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
the better, worth £1,000, and the best, worth £2,000. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
Now, Ronnie, I've... | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
I've just gone along and chosen what I like the best, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
because I find it so hard to tell, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
because these are '30s, '40s and '50s handbags, aren't they? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
-Yeah. -Now, you are very interested in handbags, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
which isn't necessarily an interest you'd associate with a chap. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
So what gets you excited about vintage handbags? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Well, when I came into the antique business, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
I came from a fashion-connected background, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
and as I was going round the markets and the salerooms, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
I saw an opening for handbags. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Because I just thought they were fantastically made, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
beautiful objects, that were being neglected by collectors. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
And, as we know, some handbags are worth a fortune. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
-Did you have your own collection? -Yes, I did. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
I had about 50 bags, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
and I needed the deposit for a flat, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
so I had the idea of taking them to a gallery, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
suggesting the idea of an exhibition, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
which had never been done before. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
-An exhibition of vintage handbags? -Exactly, yeah. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
And contacting the fashion press... | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
and, in fact, the fashion press were really interested, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
and about three or four major fashion magazines | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
covered that exhibition. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
And... | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
the result of that was, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
I had the deposit to buy the most important thing | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
that I've ever bought in my life - my home. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
So, talk us through these bags, then. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
I mean, as I say, I've made my selection here, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
basic, better and best, simply because I like this one the best. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
I love that one, yeah. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:39 | |
But go on, how do we assess these bags? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Well, I think your fashion instincts and your sense of dress | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
has worked here, because you've got the best right. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
-But you've got the other two wrong. -Oh! | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
-Which... -OK. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:53 | |
So where do we start, then? Which is the basic? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
This is the basic, so we'll put that there. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
Now tell us about this bag then, cos it looks like it has... | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
You know, I mean, they could be semi-precious stones, I don't know. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
This is suede. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
It's all paste, and the enamel's cold-painted. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
The silver frame is not silver, it's just made to look like silver. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
But it is fantastic quality antelope suede, and it's from the 1930s, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:19 | |
and that one is the one that's worth about 200. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
-So the better one, £1,000, then. -Yeah. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
-And what is this? -It's crocodile. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
-Gosh. -But it's turquoise green, it's a very, very rare colour. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
It's hard to tan that colour to that kind of purity. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
It's a fantastic size. It's a very unusual shape. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
I love these crossed circular rings here, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
and this cylindrical catch with the cuts in it, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:45 | |
and it's in immaculate condition, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
and when you open it up, it's bottle-green kid leather inside, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
piped in gold. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
A fantastic bag. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
But it doesn't have a great maker - it's not a maker that anybody knows. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
-And this is what, '40s, '50s? -1940s. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
-Well, it's a fabulous colour, certainly, I thought that. -Yeah. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
So, hooray, this is the best one. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
This looks like it's made out of fancy string. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
It is. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:06 | |
It's made by a wonderful designer, one of my favourites, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
called Roberta di Camerino, in the mid-'50s. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
When she was a little girl, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
she helped out in her grandfather's pigment factory, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
and learned to mix pigments, hence you get these exciting colours, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
bubblegum pink and peppermint green. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
But it's dyed cord, but it's laid over bright pink... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
Ohh! | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
That's lovely. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
..kid leather, and inside, the same. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
The chain... The handles here are adjustable. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
And it's in beautiful condition, isn't it? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
It is in amazing condition. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
The people that carried her bags were people like Grace Kelly, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Elizabeth Taylor... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
She's a designer's designer, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
and nearly all the handbag designers of today | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
look to her early designs for inspiration. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
-And that's why it's worth £2,000. -That is. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
And it's a very rare survivor. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
Ronnie, thank you very much, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:02 | |
certainly that is a beautiful handbag. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
And who knows? You might have a bag or two | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
belonging to your mother or your grandmother languishing at home, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
or, like me, you might have thrown them away and be regretting it now. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
If you still have got them, bring them along to a Roadshow, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
we'd love to have a look at them. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
Have a look on our website for more details about handbags | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
and what to look for, that's... | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
Today, we've had silver from China, from Russia, from Turkey, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:34 | |
all round Europe, North America, South America, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and I'm glad to say we've now got something | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
from the other corner of the Earth, because, looking at the kangaroo, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
it's fairly obvious where this piece comes from. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
So how did a piece of Australian silver end up in Yorkshire? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
I've no idea, to be honest. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Um... It was my grandfather's, who then gave it to my mother, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
who then gave it to me. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:58 | |
And it's been in a cabinet at my house for several years now, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
and I've often wondered where it's come from, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
so I'm hoping you can shed some light on it. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Well, I have to say that Australian silver | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
sometimes lacks a little bit of interest and quality, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
but this is really superb quality. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
The way the base is textured, we've got these lovely sinuous palm trees, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
the leaves falling down and then supporting this bowl at the top. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
We've got fruiting vines at the ends with parrots perched on the top, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
we've got everything here, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
but most important of all is we've got some marks at the bottom, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:39 | |
and an awful lot of these cups are not marked. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
This one has the mark for Kilpatrick and Company. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
They were from the State of Victoria. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
Founded in Melbourne in the mid-19th century, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
and this piece dates from round about 1865, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
so it's pretty old, and it always fascinates me, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
how things of that age from the other side of the world | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-end up here in Yorkshire. -Yeah. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Now, there's one thing missing about this, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
which you may not have ever realised. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
It should have been covered with an emu's egg. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-Oh, really? -This is the lining, the inside. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
So the outside would have been this grey-blue colour, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
and if you look around the edges, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
you can see there's a gap | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
where the egg would have fitted down inside these mounts, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
and on the top and on the bottom. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Having said that, you know, this is a good piece. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
I would expect, if this went into auction, you would get | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-at least £2,000, maybe more. -Goodness. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
That's been sat there for years! SHE LAUGHS | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
-Amazing. -What's going to happen now? | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
I'll get it insured. THEY LAUGH | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Well, you've got to put probably £3,000 or more on it for insurance. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
-Right. -It is a very rare thing. -Really? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
And especially to get it hallmarked, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
and just wonderful to see a thing from so far away end up here. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
Well, thank you very much, that's been a big surprise! | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Two pottery figures. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Where do they come from? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
Um...they belonged to our grandmother, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
-and she was one of the first women doctors. -Uh-huh. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
And in order to fund her training, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
because she was first of all a nurse, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
she went to work as a nanny, nurse-cum-governess, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
for a family, and they were into jute, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
and so they of course travelled a lot around those parts, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
-and they gifted her a few quite special things. -Yes. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
And these were two of the things that were gifted. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
And what did she think she'd been given? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
Tang dynasty figures. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
-Right, so she thinks they're Chinese. -Yes. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
-And you think they're Chinese? -Yes. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
-And you think they're Tang? -Yes. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
Of course they are Tang dynasty - | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
I say "of course" because earlier on today, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
I saw a very good imitation of a Tang pottery figure - | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
but these are genuine, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:06 | |
and there are various reasons for telling you that, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
but just take it from me, for the time being, they are genuine. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
I fished them out because, um... they're all to do with death. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
Mmm. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
We are only a few yards away from the dead door | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
here at Fountains Abbey. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
The door through which the corpses were taken | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
to be buried in the ground just behind us, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
and in China from the...well, right up until the second century BC, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
if you were very important, if you were an emperor, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
or king of your own particular part, when you died... | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
"I'm sorry, you're going to have to die!" | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
Because you would want all of your retinue to come into your tomb dead | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
as well, and of course that would include your 250-odd wives. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
This practice, oddly enough, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
seemed to be really quite unpopular with the general population. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:59 | |
So they started replacing human sacrifice by pottery sacrifice, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
and of course the most famous pottery sacrifice | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
is the Terracotta Army, created for the Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huang | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
in just - well, just before 200BC. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
And those are life size, those are about seven feet high. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
They're the first, sort of, real replacements | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
for human and animal sacrifice. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
And by the time we get to the Tang Dynasty... | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
they get down to this size. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
So there they are, lovely. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:28 | |
Now, those would have been quite valuable, um...30 years ago. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
But so many have come out of the ground, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
that unless they are very unusually coloured - | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
blue glazes or something like that - | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
the value's not particularly high, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
considering, yes, they are, they were made | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
somewhere between, let's say 700AD and 1000AD. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-Yes. -You know, before this place was built. -Yes, yes. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Er... And I'm going to put a value of about... | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
Mmm... Let's say... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
£400 to £600 on each. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
On each, ooh, very nice. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
They're lovely though, aren't they wonderful? | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
-I think they're great. -Yes. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Now, this looks like an ordinary wedding band, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
so I'm interested, why did you decide to bring this in? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
Well, me husband's had it for 25 years-plus. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
He's always thought there was something different about it, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
because it's got no hallmarks, but it's got some writing on it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
But everyone just says it's just a bit of old scrap metal. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
And then we went to the jewellers to take in some old broken jewellery, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
and we got offered £108 scrap value for it. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
-What, for this, or..? -For that. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
-For that on its own. -When was this? | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
-Last week. -Last week! -Yeah! | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
-THEY LAUGH -£108 last week? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Fantastic. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Going back 25 years ago, how did your husband acquire it? | 0:38:46 | 0:38:51 | |
He was on a camping trip with the boys, just really young, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
and he was in this stream, and just come across it. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
And it was just - this gold just glinting in the stream | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
-and he just picked it up. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
And then what happened? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
-So £108 last week... -Mm-hmm. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
So what stopped you from melting it down? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Um... The jeweller started to ask if he found it in the mud, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:12 | |
or something like that, um... and he went, "No, in a stream," | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
and he started raising his eyebrows a little bit, and said, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
"If I was you I, would take it to an auctioneer," | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
and the auctioneer - my husband took it then, this week - | 0:39:22 | 0:39:27 | |
and they said again "Yes, it's just scrap value, £135." | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
So we've come just for the day out, just to try it! | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
LAUGHTER Just in hope! | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Well, I am delighted that you came with this ring. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Um...I love the feel of gold. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
There's that allure of gold that's captured man's imagination | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
for thousands and thousands of years, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
and it's got this beautiful yellow shine to it, hasn't it? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
And you can feel, sort of, the weight of history, actually, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
when you pick it up, and it's... | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
-Because it's 22 carat gold - quite a high carat gold. -Yeah. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
-But what this is, is your poesy ring. -Mm-hmm. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
And a poesy ring... A sort of a loose translation, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-it's like a poetry ring... -Yeah. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
..because it has the inscriptions inside, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
usually from a loved one or to a loved one. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
And inside here is the inscription, in English, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
"A virtuous wife preserveth life." | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
Right. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
So that's what it... that's what it means - | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
that's what it's saying inside. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
And this is about 17th century. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
-This is incredible! -I know! -17th century! | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
It's when I were looking at it, they kept saying 17th century, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
I'm thinking, "Well, it's got to be worth more than £100, surely..." | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-That's what I thought! -Exactly! Absolutely. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Well, the value is a little bit more than £108. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
Right... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
So, I would say the value would be in the region | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
of about £2,500. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Oh, well... | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
Yeah... | 0:40:58 | 0:40:59 | |
It's more, isn't it? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
I am so pleased you didn't take £108 last week, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
and have melted down a 17th-century ring. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
-Yeah. -Can you imagine? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:08 | |
I know, yeah. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
I know your husband found this a very long time ago, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
but you should really just contact your museum, your local museum, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
-and declare it. -Mm-hmm. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
And so then they can go through with you the procedures, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
the correct procedures for when you find something | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
that could possibly be under the Treasure Trove Act. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
-Right. -It's a bit of history, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:28 | |
and to find this and have this brought along here | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
in this amazing abbey, fantastic. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-Thank you both very much indeed. -Thank you, thank you. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Well, this is a very pretty, girly thing, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
but that isn't really the point here, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
because you're a lady on a mission, aren't you? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:46 | |
Um... Basically, it's one of the very few things of my grandmother's | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
that I own, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
and she was brought up in Vienna, and had to come to this country | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
just before the war, so I'd just like to know, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
is this one of her special objects that she brought from home? | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
Well, I mean - you know - I've got goose bumps at that, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
because of the implications of leaving Vienna in 1938. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
I mean, there's one reason why people left Vienna in 1938. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:13 | |
And the other - what happened..? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
Well, my sick grandfather, because he was over retirement age, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
he couldn't come into England, and so he had to stay in Vienna, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
and so it was just my grandmother and her children, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
including my father, that were allowed out. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
So, come on, what happened? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:30 | |
I believe that he stayed in Vienna for two years, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
and then he was rounded up, and eventually ended up in Riga, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
where he died, probably about three months later. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Ooh. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
Well... | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
I mean, it's absolutely right. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
I mean, you know, this is Viennese. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
We know it's Viennese, because, actually, it's written on it. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
You... | 0:42:55 | 0:42:56 | |
That means nothing to you, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
this little portcullis gilded logo in the bottom, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
but that is the gilded logo | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
of one of the finest glass companies in the world, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
which is J & L Lobmeyr, who shared the same bonds as your family. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:15 | |
So they had a really hard time, too. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
And they are still in the same premises in Vienna | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
that they've occupied for 150 years. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
So, what is this? | 0:43:25 | 0:43:26 | |
Well, the object itself is historic revival - | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
what we have is, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:31 | |
the original vessels of this type were firstly shells, sea shells, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:37 | |
and then rock crystal - | 0:43:37 | 0:43:38 | |
they were carved out of mineral rock crystal in baroque... | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
slash - coming into Rococo style, from the 17th century. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:50 | |
And so...and then you get into the 18th century | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
with these Rococo archetypal opposing sea scrolls in enamels, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:58 | |
highlighted in gold, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
this little chap coming up here in 18th-century costume, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:07 | |
and I suppose, stylistically, you get the idea of the shell | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
-in the fact that it's asymmetric here. -Yes. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Made in Vienna in about 1900, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:18 | |
and you'd get about £400 or £500 for it, you know, if you sold it. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:22 | |
But, I mean, how big's the story? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
Absolutely, no - I've no intention of selling it, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:26 | |
as I said, I just wanted to know its history, thank you very much indeed. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
-It's a wonderful thing, back to you. -It's beautiful, thank you. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
I'm almost totally bowled over by seeing this collection. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
They are the most glorious set of little skittles | 0:44:37 | 0:44:41 | |
in the form of elephants. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
They're made out of felt, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
they're stuffed with a kind of wood straw, and the king pin - | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
this wonderful king elephant with his crown and his jacket - | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
absolutely fantastic. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
Now where did you buy them? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:55 | |
-We didn't buy them. -Oh! | 0:44:55 | 0:44:56 | |
They belonged to my mother-in-law's cousin... | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
A lovely wee Irish lady - and towards the end of her life, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:05 | |
she lived with my parents-in-law | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
and when we would go over and visit and bring our children with us, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
occasionally these skittles came out of the cupboard, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:14 | |
and were allowed to be played with down the corridor, | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
and they would roll balls at them, then they were put away again, | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
so we've always sort of known that they were there, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
and I think they might have been Alice's childhood toy, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
-but I don't know how old they are. -How fascinating. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:27 | |
When do you think she was born? | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
Um... Round about 1897. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Sounds like a rather precise "about!" | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
-SHE LAUGHS I... -That's fine, it's perfect. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
Because that fits in with the date of these. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
They're made by a company called Steiff, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:42 | |
-who are perhaps better known for making teddy bears. -Mmm. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:48 | |
Margarete Steiff - the lady who set up the Steiff factory - | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
started the business in Germany in 1880, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
and the very first product she made was an elephant. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
-Right. -She was always very partial to elephants. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
The first little product in fact wasn't a toy, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
-it was an elephant-shaped pincushion. -Right. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
So I don't know where this love for elephants came, but she was - | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
you know - very much, that was her... Her little icon, if you like. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:17 | |
And the first thing that people usually say about Steiff is, | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
"Oh, I know all about Steiff, they have a button in their ear." | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
-Yeah. -OK, where's the button? | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
They don't have any buttons. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:27 | |
They have bells round their necks, but no buttons. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
And that's because the buttons didn't come in until 1904. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
Oh, right. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
-That makes sense. -So that's why I wanted to know how old Alice was, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
because if Alice was born in 1897, you know, | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
-if she got these at the age of five or six... -Yes. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
-..that would actually fit in quite... -It would, wouldn't it? Yes. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
-..fit in quite well. -Yeah. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:49 | |
Er... They are - I think - absolutely charming, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
I mean, they come in different, er...qualities - | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
some of them come in velvet. | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
-Right. -These, as I mentioned, are felt ones. -Mmm. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
And felt, I think... | 0:47:02 | 0:47:03 | |
As you have noticed, felt is the kind of caviar for moths. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:08 | |
-Absolutely! -If there is any bit of fabric in the house | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
that's made of felt, they will zero in on it. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
So who's done a bit of cross stitch on there? | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
Alice must have done that, yes. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:17 | |
Nobody else has touched them. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
They've never been out of her hands, I don't think. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
Well, she obviously loved them hugely. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
To keep them for 90... 93 years, I think. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
-And...and to darn them. -Yes, yeah. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
And they have a value. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:30 | |
They are very collectable | 0:47:30 | 0:47:32 | |
and the auction price, I would say, would be | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
between £9,000 and £10,000. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
No! | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
All stitched up, with...knocks and stuffing coming out like that? | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
I thought... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
I don't know what to say! | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
I just wanted to know they were old...and loved. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
Wow! | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
Well done, Alice! SHE LAUGHS | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
Gosh! | 0:47:58 | 0:47:59 | |
-Well done, Alice. -Oh, goodness! -Old and loved indeed. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:02 | |
Yes, yeah. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. Thank you. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:06 | |
Do you know, in the two or three days before we arrived here | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
at Fountains Abbey, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
much of the grounds here were submerged in water, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
and we all worried this whole thing was going to be a total wash-out. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
But, look, we've had the first day of sunshine we've had in weeks. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Must be divine intervention. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
From the ruins of Fountains Abbey, | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
and the Roadshow team, until next time, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
bye-bye. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 |