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This is one of Britain's most majestic rooms. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Many years ago, a very naughty schoolboy clambered along | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
this ledge, up over the figures here, onto the next ledge | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
and jammed a tennis ball into the frieze. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
And then, when restoration work was done, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
the tennis ball was taken out, painted over and put back, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
and is now the world's only Grade 1 listed tennis ball. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
from Stowe House and Gardens in Buckinghamshire. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Stowe House and Gardens belonged to the Temple-Grenville family who, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
in the 18th century, employed the best designers to create | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
an inspiring landscape and magnificent architecture. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
But as the family fortune waned, the estate fell into disrepair | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
and was on the verge of being demolished. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
The house was saved in 1923 by becoming a school. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
The majestic gardens were rescued in 1990 by the National Trust. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
And in 1997, The Stowe House Preservation Trust was created | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
to restore it to its former magnificence. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
As you can see, they're still hard at work today | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
here in the elegant music room. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Many slivers of gold leaf are being | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
painstakingly applied to the mouldings. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Stowe House is the largest restoration project of its kind | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
in the UK, quite possibly in the world. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
The house was listed as one of the most endangered sites, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
as water seeped into the building and ceilings were close to collapse. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
When restoration began over the north and south entrances, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
the scaffolding became the largest free-standing | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
structure in the world. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
This is before... | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
and this is after. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
When you look around the marble saloon, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
you can see what all the fuss is about. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
This was built in 1775 and, I think it's fair to say, it's probably | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
the finest and most elegant room in the land | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
and it has no purpose or function as a room. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
It's just built to impress. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
It's a majestic, elliptical shape that is 56 feet up to the centre, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
or oculus, up there. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
It's based on the Pantheon in Rome and is a marvel of engineering, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
geometry and artistry. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
As you can see, the restoration work is truly worth it. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
These figures just appear to be bursting out of the ceiling. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
We're delighted to be holding our show in this grand setting, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
as guests of Stowe School and the National Trust. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
I think this is a Roadshow first for me. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
I can't remember ever having talked about a bed. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
But what a good bed and it wouldn't actually look that uncomfortable | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
in one of the rooms here. It's got the right | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
-presence about it. -Exactly. -So, is this your bed? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
-It is my bed, yes, yes. -A family piece? | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Yes, it was inherited from a great-aunt whose | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
grandparents bought it originally | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
in auction, in 1904, in London. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
1904. So by that stage, it had already travelled, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
because this bed started its life at the turn of the century in France. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:09 | |
Although actually, looking at it, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
it has got quite an Italianate feel, but it was a smart bed, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
made in burr walnut here, this lovely walnut, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
an ordinary grained walnut, but it was a bed with a presence. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
-Now, you sleep in it. -Yes, I do. -And you love it? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
-I love it, yeah, definitely. -Why do you love it? | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Oh, it's just such a beautiful piece, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
and obviously it has real family... It's a family heirloom now. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
So did you know, did you know her? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Yes, she was my great-great-aunt. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
And did great-aunt have a name? | 0:04:41 | 0:04:42 | |
Auntie Connie and she was five foot tall. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
So she was very small. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
She was very small and, because the bed was so high at the time, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
she actually had to use a step to climb up into it, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
even when she was 99, when she still slept in it. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Oh, how fantastic. So she had a pair of steps to get up into bed. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
-Yes, yes. -I mean I love this sort of architectural pediment here, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
but if there was one element that I could chop off and take it home, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
honestly, these are to die for, aren't they? They're so tactile. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
You know, you could just slice them off at the collar, put them | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
on little plinths and have them as a decorative ornament. Not that | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
I think in any way I'm suggesting that you should do such a thing. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
And it's a very masculine bed, so it's a bed that you would expect | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
to be in a dressing room, somewhere that, when the husband isn't | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
sleeping very well, he can slip away and sleep comfortably on his own. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
And do you think there was ever a pair of these? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
We're led to believe there may have been, yes. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Because, of course, these days, one of a pair is... | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Everybody says, "Where's the other one?" | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
And, of course, that must have a bearing on its value. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
It's fabulous quality. Where would you go and get another? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
But, you know, if you put it in an auction, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
its pre-sale would probably be somewhere between £600 and £800. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
-Ooh, lovely. -Wow. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
Not that we're going to sell it. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
I don't think there's any chance from what you're saying. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
-No chance! -No, not at all. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
This is a piece that absolutely oozes quality. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
And the inscription | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
does explain why. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
"The Royal South Bucks Agricultural Association | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
"from HRH The Prince Consort | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
"to the grower of the best root crop, 1860." | 0:06:26 | 0:06:31 | |
Now, who was the grower of the best root crop? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
It was one of our ancestors, obviously. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
It's been passed down the family, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
so I should think it was probably the boys' great-great-great-grandfather | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
that was actually presented with this cup. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
And it's super to have that sort of continuity. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
And, of course, when you think about it, 1860, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
that is actually the year before Prince Albert died. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Yes, that's right, yes. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Now, you don't see so many pieces associated with Prince Albert. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
As I say, that obviously explains the quality, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
all of this decoration is most beautifully applied to the piece | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
and, of course, if we then look at the marks, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
we've got 1860 as the London hallmark | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
and, not surprisingly, the Royal Goldsmith, Robert Garrard. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
But I do love this, absolutely wonderful here, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
the A, of course, for Albert under the royal crown | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
and the laurels again, for the victors. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
What a piece. So...value... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
Mmm. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
I would suggest that, today, you would be very hard pushed | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
to buy such a piece for less than about £4,500. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
Goodness. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
Right, thank you very much. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
That's...an amazing figure. Thank you. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
Now, you've brought along this little autograph album. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
Who's in it? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
There are a lot of signatures of Victoria Cross winners. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
-Now, why is that? Was it yours? -No. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
This belonged to my father-in-law, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
who took my husband to Windsor one day. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
At the Castle, there happened to be a garden party | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
for the Victoria Cross winners... | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
-Right. -..and he collected these on the way out. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
So did he have the autograph album with him? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
No, he rushed along to Woolworths and he bought it. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
Let's have a quick look in it. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
The first one we turn to | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
says Reverend AH Proctor, VC. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
Now, I happen to know that Proctor, who wasn't a Reverend, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
-at the time of the First World War... -Oh, right. Yes. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
..went out over the top of the trenches, because he saw two men. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
They were wounded. He went out under heavy gunfire | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
and he dressed their wounds, took them warm clothing, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
promised that they'd be rescued, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
-after sunset in the dark and, after dark, they were rescued. -Gosh. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
And for that, he was awarded the Victoria Cross. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Let's have a look further on. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Now, we've got one here | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
for WB Butler, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
-West Yorkshire Regiment. -Yep. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Now, he was in charge of a mortar in the trenches | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
during the First World War | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
and accidentally the lever of one flew off | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
and it was in danger of exploding, so quickly, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
he took the mortar, put it in front of him, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
turned away from all the other troops that were behind him | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
and said, "Get out, quick!" | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
And they all rushed to safety and, when they had got to safety, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
he threw it over the top of the trench and it exploded instantly. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
So he saved all those lives and again, for that, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
he was awarded the Victoria Cross. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-Now, how many have you got in here, do you know? -There are 37. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Now, that's very valuable. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
I think this is going to be worth... | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
£1,500-£2,000. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-For this tiny little book, tiny little book! -I can't believe it! | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
My husband will be delighted. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Now, like most people of my generation, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
I will willingly confess to being a Beatles fan. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
I'm old enough to have grown up with them. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Indeed, I saw them in December 1963. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
So, here we have, rather unexpectedly, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
clearly a Beatles story, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
but it's something with a difference, isn't it? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
Where does it begin? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
It begins in the Cavern Club, back in Liverpool. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
And an Old Stoic called David Moors, who was 17-years-old, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
great Beatles fan, heard about... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
-He went to this school? -He went to this school | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and heard about the Beatles playing in his local town. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Went to visit the Cavern Club, I think it was a lunchtime concert, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
rather than the evening concerts, and thought, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
"This is a band that I'd like some of my friends to hear." | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
He had the initiative to write to their manager, Brian Epstein... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
-Aged 17. -Aged 17. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
He invites the Beatles to come and play at Stowe | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
and so, this is the beginning of a correspondence that we've got, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
starting on January 13, and then moving all the way through to April. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:12 | |
This is the documentation of that gig, if you like. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
It's one gig, from inception to completion. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Which is a very, very rare collection of material. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
It's got the contract, it's got a photograph of the gig, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-it's the whole history of it, isn't it? -It is. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Let's get this straight, this is obviously a Stowe story. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Where do you fit in? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Well, I'm the seventh headmaster of Stowe and you'll be pleased to hear, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
I wasn't headmaster of Stowe in 1963 when the Beatles came to play. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
-Were you a boy, then? -I wasn't born in February 1963. -Fair enough. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
-I was a twinkle in the eye. -Yeah, OK. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
What surprises me is several things. One... | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
I would never have thought the words "Stowe" and "Beatles" | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
-had any connection whatsoever. -Yeah. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
What was it like for them, coming to play | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
in a famous public school, straight out of Liverpool? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I think for them, it was a bit of a shock. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Paul McCartney tells the story that, when he came to Stowe | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and the boys showed him round, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
the first impression that he had | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
of some of their studies was how unbelievably squalid the rooms were. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
They thought they were going to see this wonderful neoclassical building, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
Palladian splendour and, of course, boarding schools in 1963 | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
were rather different to boarding schools in 2012. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
Do we know the playlist for that great night? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
I think it started with Twist and Shout. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And then the set progressed through Please Please Me, the album. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
What I love about this is the fact that, when Brian Epstein realised | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
that he was corresponding with a 17-year-old boy, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
it would be good to have the whole contract | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
countersigned by your housemaster, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
-because it's not legal if you're just at school. -Yeah. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Where does that take us with all the sculpture? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-So, the sculpture, the link with the Beatles is David Wynne... -Yes. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
..who, of course, is one of our finest sculptors. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
-Did he go here, as well? -Here's an old boy. An Old Stoic. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
He was here in the Roxbury years, during World War II | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
and he was completing a show | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
for a gallery called Tooths and, in the show, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
there was a series of busts featuring famous musicians, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
so Thomas Beecham, the conductor, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Yehudi Menuhin and a number of other people | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
who were celebrated at the time and he wrote to Epstein, saying, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
"I'd like something a bit more contemporary, can I do the Beatles?" | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
And Epstein wrote back to say, "Well, you can, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
"but you'll have to go to Paris, because the boys are recording | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
"and they're playing at the Olympia Stadium | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
"and they're there for ten days." So, David turned up, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
went to the George V Hotel. Modelled them with clay... | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
-And the rest is history. -..and the rest is history. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Now, we're looking at a lot of stuff and a lot of very important things. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I'm only going to give you a global value, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
because I think breaking it down into bits and pieces is unhelpful. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
This is a great archive, it's a great range of material, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
you've got to be looking at at least £50,000, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
probably between £50,000 and £100,000, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
because of the intricacy, the rarity | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
and, of course, the sculptural quality of the things involved. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-So... -I will have to tell our insurers that. -Good. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Thank you, Paul, very nice to see you. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
-Do you know who she is? -All we know is she's a dancing naked girl. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
We're hoping you'll be to tell us. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Well, her name was Lady Constance Richardson. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
She was of nobility, obviously, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
and she was a suffragette, an athlete and a ballet dancer. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:45 | |
And she was certainly dancing at the time of Isadora Duncan, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
was influenced by her, and was considered quite avant-garde, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
because a titled lady to be dancing in scantily-dressed costume | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
was thought slightly risque, so she was quite a gal about town, I think. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
And, obviously captured in this fantastic pose | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
by the sculptor Carlo Troubetzkoy, Count Troubetzkoy | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
and it's dated Paris, 1935. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
What's the history behind it? | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
I think my stepfather-in-law would have bought it, immediately, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
in 1935 or 1936. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
He was a bit of a collector of sculpture and of paintings | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
and we are lucky enough to have inherited it, my wife and I. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
And is it something that has pride of place at home? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Yes, certainly, it's where everybody can see it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
And gets a ring on its toe for Christmas. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Oh, cool! | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
So I'm glad she doesn't just come out for Christmas. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
I think she has lots of energy, lots of exuberance, you know, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
a great history behind her and I think she was quite a naughty girl, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-which I also quite like, as well. -Yes. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Worth quite a considerable amount of money, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
I have no idea how much he paid for it back in 1935, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
but it wouldn't have been too much, I'm sure. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
I wouldn't have thought so. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
Today at auction, I would see this as a figure between | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
£15,000 and £20,000. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
That's very interesting. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-Well, this chap looks a bit familiar. -Yes, Nelson. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-The Horatio boy. -Yes. -And it's quite a glass, isn't it? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
It doesn't leave a lot to the imagination, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
"Conqueror at..." and then his great victories, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
terminating with 1805, at Trafalgar. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
So...where does Horatio come into your life? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
The glass belonged to one of my partners and he died. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
We used to use them when we went for dinner and that sort of thing | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
and I bought them from the widow, both of them | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-and we use them at home, as well, from time to time. -Sure. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
The other being the matching piece, with exactly the same composition, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
with the portrait on the front, with the list of victories on the back. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
So you bought them when? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
-In about 1998. -OK. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
And what about the money, how much did you part with? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:40 | |
-£750. -For the two? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
-For each one. -For each one. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
I'm going to have to kill you, you know? I'm going to kill you, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
because they're wrong. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-Oh, are they? -They are. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
The amount of pleasure I'm going to get from giving you a kicking | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
is none! I have no pleasure in telling you that they're out of time | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
-by 100 years. -Oh, are they? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
They are! I'm really sorry to have to tell you, but they are wrong. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
-OK. -Now, let's break this down, in comprehensible | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
and bite-sized pieces. This is a right glass, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
this one is right. If we look at the base, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
I think this is probably a period rummer, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
from the right date. So the glass is the right date, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
-but the engraving is 100 years later. -Right. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
If I exchange... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
then I think that's a wrong 'un. I think... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
you will see differences between these glasses. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
This has a polished pontil here and rather mechanical wear | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
and I'm afraid that, I think, that this glass | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
actually dates, not from 1815, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
-but more like 1925. -Really? -I do. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
Now, a glass dealer, by the name of Churchill, in the '30s, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:05 | |
held an exhibition called Glass With History. History glasses. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
And a load of these turned up, like, a LOAD of these turned up. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:15 | |
-And basically, they were made to meet a demand. -OK. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
So if there's enough of a demand and enough money is being available, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:26 | |
people are prepared to pay the sort of money you might be familiar with, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
then they'll make 'em | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
and the way they were sold, I'm not sure it was fraud, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
whether the people were buying them knew this, I don't know, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
because I'm not there, it's 1930s, but the fact is... | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
-..that they're stinkers. -Oh, you reckon? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
I'm really sorry. And so, you're into it for £1,500 | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
-and their value... -£100. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-Each. -Oh, right. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
That's the good news, it's £100 each! | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
-£150 each. -OK. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
-They have an academic curiosity... -Yes. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
..and for £150, they'd reach that. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-But that's a little bit down. -It is, isn't it?! | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
This week, our Basic Better Best challenge | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
features some of the tiniest portraits | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
we've ever seen on the Roadshow. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
But believe me, they have the biggest of values. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
They've been brought along by Philip Mould, our painting specialist | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
and the Basic miniature is worth £150, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
the Better one, £7,500 | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
and then there's a great leap to the Best one, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
which is worth £65,000. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Yes, have a look at home and in the meantime, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I'll see what our visitors think. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
Yes, usually the smallest one is the most expensive. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
In your great experience of this? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I don't know, I've not bought many miniatures in my life. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
-Have you bought any? -None. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Do you know what miniatures were used for? -Yeah. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Instead of a passport photograph or sending a photo to a friend you'd send a portrait, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
because there were no cameras back then. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
-Let's look at these miniatures here. -I would say the Basic is this one. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:23 | |
-Because it's quite plain? -It's plain and ordinary. That's the Basic. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
I would say that the middle one is actually the Better one. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
I would say that this one on the end is the Best, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I think it looks older and slightly classier, I'd say. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
I don't know, he looks a bit of a boring old chap, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
I think I will leave that with the Basic. Yes, definitely. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Although, on second thoughts, he looks rather charming... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
-We're going to be a long time. -Move that round to there. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
This one's the Basic. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-Right. -I think that's the Better one. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
I think that's the best one | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
because even though it's quite simple, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I think that they were trying to go for a simple look. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
-Simple, but classy? -Yes. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
-So come on, them,... -Um... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
-Well, er... -We'll be here all day! -We could, we could, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-we could. I think this is going to be the Best one. -Right. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
This goes back to the Basic | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
and this young lady I think is the Better one. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
-So, Basic. -Yes. -Better. -Yes. -Best. -Yes. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
-Final decision? -Absolutely, yes. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
-What a relief. -Which one...? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-Can I take one with me? -No, you cannot! | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
Oh, right. Right, OK. Thank you. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Amazing - gold, purple, rich, amethyst, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
all together in one piece of jewellery, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
just says it all to me. How did you get hold of it? | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
I was given it by a very old friend of my mother's for my 25th birthday. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:49 | |
And she had had it in her family, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
who were a combination of Lee-Warners, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
who used to own Walsingham Abbey, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
and the other side of the family, were the FitzClarences, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
the natural children of the sovereign, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
and they became the Earls of Munster | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
-and I believe it came from that side. -Gosh. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
So quite a provenance and just a magnificent piece of jewellery, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
which has lots of regal qualities to it in many ways, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
from the colour of the amethyst through to this | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
very beautiful gold work, which is known as repousse work | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
and it's basically the way the gold creates this lovely swirl | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
and fluting effect to give it body, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
as if it's going to be a very heavy piece of jewellery. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
-Do you wear it at all? -Yes, I do, I wear it quite a lot | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
and my daughter has worn it for about eight or nine years now | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
-and used to wear it at balls, when she went to Oxford. -Fantastic. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
It's having the provenance that it has, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
it fits in with the makers, Rundell, Bridge and Rundell, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
who were Crown jewellers to George III | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and produced some of the most stunning pieces of jewellery | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
from this period. When you pick it up, as I mentioned, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
it looks as though it's going to be a heavy piece of jewellery to wear, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
but it's actually relatively light, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
which is a good thing about jewellery from this period. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
The other thing about it is that it breaks up | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
and you can play around with it | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
and make some really interesting and different pieces of jewellery, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
using the different combinations of the parts. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Here we can see that there's a link at the top | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and also either side of this central amethyst section | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
and so you can actually undo the chain and create a bracelet | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
or perhaps, just a plain choker | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
and maybe use the amethyst as a central section | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
for the bracelet, as well. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
The combinations are there to be enjoyed | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
and it's just wonderful that you are wearing it in that way. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
In terms of value, of course, we really do have a very | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
interesting piece from this period in history and should it come up | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
for sale at auction, if you ever decide to part with it, which | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
I'm sure you're not going to do, with the association that it has | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
and the fact it points in the direction | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
of Rundell, Bridge and Rundell designers and jewellers, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
then we would be expecting it to get | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
somewhere between 4,000 and 6,000 at auction. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
A pocket watch by Cartier. And a coin. What's the story? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:19 | |
My grandfather was a jeweller. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
He collected things and that's really all I know. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
I was passed them down, one to my brother, which is the medallion, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
and the pocket watch to me. So we're very lucky. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
What I find fascinating about this pocket watch | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
is not that it's by Cartier, although that's the icing on the cake. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Yes, it's a Cartier pocket watch, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
but the really unusual thing to look at, immediately | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
looking at the front of it, is that the winding button is there | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
below six, which is unusual. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
You would normally expect it to be up where the pendant is. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
When you turn it round, it becomes apparent | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
that it has this rather unusual stand built into it. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
I have never seen that before on a Cartier pocket watch. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
And I must have seen maybe thousands of Cartier pocket watches, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
but I've never seen one with this rather beautiful integral stand. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
It was obviously purpose-made for a particularly wealthy client, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
who wanted his watch to sit in his waistcoat pocket | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
and, when he wasn't wearing it, he could put it on his desk | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
and there it would be looking at him. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
It's just the most beautiful piece of engineering in gold | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
and it's a very beautiful dress watch. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
And are you pleased with this? Do you think you've got the better deal? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-Yes. -Honestly? -Yes, I do. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
-Are you the older brother? -Younger. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:40 | |
And you reckon you got the better deal? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
We didn't get a choice, but I was much happier with that. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-I wore it on my wedding, as well. -OK. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
So if I was to tell you this watch is worth at auction | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
-between £4,000-£6,000, happy? -Very. Yes, very. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Shall we have a look at big brother? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
You're going to tell me that one's better, aren't you? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
What's a medal doing in a box? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
My grandpa's aunt was an opera singer | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
and she was in a particularly prestigious opera, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
I don't know which. She was given that medal. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
On one side it says, "Royal Academy of Music for Operatic Singing, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
"instituted in 1822." | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
On the other side, it has Gilbert R Betjeman. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
On the band, it says here, Margaret Ismay 1909. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
-Margaret Ismay was your great-aunt? -That's it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
From what I understand, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
she immediately went off to Cartier, where they did a remarkable thing. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
They incised the top of it. Somehow raised it off, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
put a watch inside and put the cover back on, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
so that you can see the medal and you would never believe that, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
when you push the little button at the side, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
inside is a lovely Cartier watch. Amazing. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Coin watches aren't all that unusual, to be honest. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:13 | |
And Cartier did make coin watches, as did other manufacturers. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
But in this instance, when someone takes their medal around to Cartier | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
and has a coin watch made out of it, it is pretty amazing, actually. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
I've never seen the like before. Now, who came out best? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
I love this bit. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
I don't know whether there are any opera buffs about who would pay over and above | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
rather like medal collectors and that sort of thing. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
But I suspect there probably are. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
And I suspect it would interest them. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Opera people tend to be fairly well-healed, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
and it has a Cartier watch inside. And it's a coin watch. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
I think he did a bit better than you, I'm sorry to say. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
I think this is worth at least £6,000-£8,000 at auction. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
-Wow. He's done it again. -These big brothers! | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
My big brother does it to me, too. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Somehow he always comes out on top. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
-You just have to deal with it? -You do. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
This week, our Basic, Better, Best challenge | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
is a perfect work in miniature. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:23 | |
Philip Mould, our art specialist, has brought along three miniatures. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
The Basic one, worth £150, the Better one, worth £7,500, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:33 | |
and the Best one is worth £65,000. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
A massive value for something so tiny. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
I've spoken to our visitors, to see what they think. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Philip, it was a very tricky one, this, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
and there was no consensus as to which was which. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Now, am I right in thinking that these miniatures, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
or miniatures in general, were used by suitors | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
to show what they looked like | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
to the person they hoped to be betrothed to? | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
I mean, they were very hot, intimate things. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Often held in the hand, often worn close to the body. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
So, yes, they perform a completely different role | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
from that of big paintings on walls. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
And a lot of the role of photography today | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
has taken the intimate place of the miniature painting. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
When were these popular? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
Well, all of these are, in fact, from the 18th century, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
which was the century in which the art of the miniature triumphed. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
And what should one look for, when you're trying to assess a miniature | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
and its value, its importance, or significance, where do you begin? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I suppose the same principles apply to miniatures | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
as do to other areas in the art market. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Quality. A very good name. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
By a name, I mean not only the artist's name, but also the subject. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
The attraction of the image. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
I mean, it's a cruel thing, the art world, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
but a sweet-looking woman sells rather better than a plain old man. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
Well, I'm already beginning to think I might have made the wrong choice, in that case! | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
Let's go for it. I put this as Basic, this as Better - | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
despite what I believed must be diamonds. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
I thought you might be bowling me a googly there. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
So I thought, no, I'll put that as Better. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
And this is as Best, hoping perhaps that this is a rare image. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
Well, I have to say, rather boringly, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
I was hoping you were going to be seduced by that man's green jacket. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
-That is the most basic. -Oh, good! | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
I thought, just it was the plainest, that was the only reason. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
-So why is this only worth £150? -This is by an amateur artist. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
We know that, apart from anything else, because it's on vellum. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
And by this time, 1760s, 1770s, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
miniature painting was done on ivory. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
If you were a serious artist, you would do it on that backing, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
not on vellum. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:45 | |
-So this is vellum. -This is vellum. -In a plain little frame. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
Yes, by an amateur artist, unknown. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
So the next one? The one worth £7,500. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
You know, this is really infuriating. You've got that right, as well. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Ho-ho-ho! | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Good. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:03 | |
I mean, this looks spectacular and is so beautiful | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
-of this... Is it a young lady, a young girl? -It's a boy. -Is it?! | 0:32:07 | 0:32:13 | |
Look, not only is it a boy, it's a very aristocratic boy. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
It's the Second Earl Spencer, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
who is brother to the famous Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
And this is an image done by Richard Cosway, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
who was the leading miniaturist in the late-18th century. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
He was the sort of... He was the Gainsborough of miniatures. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
And probably worn by his mother when he went away to school. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Again, it comes back to this idea of these soft, intimate images | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
that are only designed to be seen by one person. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
When we look at paintings on walls it's a sort of public thing, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
we all sort of stand back, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
but these things were designed to commune with, really. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
So here we have the humdinger, at £65,000. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
Now, is it the artist or is it the sitter that makes that so valuable? | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
Both. This is by an artist called Grigorii Musikiiskii, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
who was the court enamellist to Peter the Great. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
This was a phenomenally important time in the history of Russia | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
and Russian culture. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
And this is Peter the Great himself, by the artist. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
Now, the artist was known for his enamels | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
and this is the only surviving, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
remaining work on vellum by Musikiiskii. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:28 | |
It's signed, it's dated, it's inscribed. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
This is really a sort of confluence of major commercial factors. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
A very rare artist, an incredibly important sitter, and Russian. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
And Russian objects, Russian antiques are greatly sought by Russians. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:46 | |
And the Russian art market, of course, is burgeoning | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
and people are loving to buy Russian artefacts, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
aren't they, at the moment? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
Well, there we... I could see past the bling, Philip, that's the thing. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
Actually, it was all luck, to be honest. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
If you have miniatures at home, you have got some idea what to look for. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
And there are more tips, if you want to look on our website... | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
Now, I have to say, you bear | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
a striking resemblance to the lady in this portrait. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
-Now, why is that? -Well, I would hope so. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
This is my grandmother and this is my mother when she was a girl. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
And where did you get the painting from? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Apparently, when my grandad was in the Second World War, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
he was at the Battle of Monte Cassino | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
and whilst he was out there he had no children, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
but my grandmother went on to have a child, which he wasn't aware of. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
She wrote to him and said, "I've had a baby, her name's Susan." | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
And when she was about 15 months, in this photo, they sent... | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
My nan sent this picture, which my grandad carried in his wallet. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
And whilst he was there, after the battle, he met some partisans | 0:34:55 | 0:35:02 | |
that were seven brothers, I was told, that were artists | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
and one of them painted this picture. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
They painted it on the back of an orange box. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
So this is actually painted? That's actually on an orange box? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
It is, yeah. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
It must have been an incredibly emotional experience for him | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
to suddenly find out that he had a child. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
And to receive this photograph must have been a wonderful thing for him. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
I think that happened a lot in them times, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
people went to war and children were born. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
Unfortunately, he didn't see my mum, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
when he came back with the photo, until she was three-years-old. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
So she was 14-15 months old there | 0:35:42 | 0:35:43 | |
and she was three when he finally came home and saw her. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
-But you've got a photograph of him, as well, haven't you? -Yes, I have. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-Which one is he? -This is my grandad here. -And what rank was he? | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
Well, from what I'm given to understand, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
he was with the 8th Division | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
and was part of the military police. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
So a lot of his work was after the battles, the clean-up process, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
which accounts for why he was still there after the battle. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
-Now, he would have been with the Eighth Army. -Yes. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Now, you say he was fighting at the Battle of Monte Cassino. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
This was in 1944, in Italy, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
and it was an infamous battle for both sides, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
but, actually, particularly the Allies. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
-He's got a wonderful group of medals here. -Yes, he has. He has got some... | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
Yeah, he has got some nice medals and oak leaves, yeah, he has. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
So he obviously did something fairly brave to be Mentioned In Despatches, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
which is what these oak leaves represent. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
Now, look, what about value? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
It's more of a sentimental value, I think, to you? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
-Oh, yeah. -You could never replace it. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Portraits like this are very difficult to sell on the open market. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Commercially, it would be worth relatively little. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
-Probably, would you believe, less than £100? -Wow. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
-That's not the point, though. -No, no. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
It has huge value to you and the family, because it means something. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
You've told us the story, the emotional attachment it has for you. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
As far as the medals are concerned, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
we can attribute the medals to this man. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
That's the great thing about the family medal, family knowledge. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
So the medals themselves are probably worth... | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
You've got more photographs, by the way? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
-Yes, we have, we've got lots of photographs. He was... -Documents? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-Yes, all documents. Everything. -Ah! That all adds to the value. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
So the medals, the photographs, the documents, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
they're going to be worth something in the region of £300-500. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
So it's a lovely little family group of objects | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
and I find it quite an emotional experience talking about this today. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
It's a lovely story. It's a lovely story. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
You may remember that, a few programmes ago, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
we were asking our experts what they would most like to see on a Roadshow | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
and our ceramics specialist, Steven Moore, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
said he would most like to see furniture | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
designed by the artist Francis Bacon. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Very, very rare. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
Now, Susie, you have brought along some furniture by Francis Bacon. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
-I have. -You just had this hanging around the house? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
Well, my grandparents bought it from Francis Bacon in 1930. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
-And do you use it? -Yes, it's used on a daily basis, it's my desk stool. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:20 | |
Now, I didn't know, until Steven mentioned it, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
that Francis Bacon had made furniture, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
because, of course, that's not what he's known for. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
He is going to be thrilled to see this. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Can we have a little sneak preview? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:30 | |
Yes, do. It's going to be a bit disappointing to you, I think, but he'll be excited. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:35 | |
-It is slightly underwhelming. -Yes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Well, it's 1930s Modernism, you know, wonderful functionalism. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
-Obviously it's a stool. Can I sit on it? -Yes, you can. Yes, please do. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Can I sit on the Francis Bacon stool? | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
-It sort of...clenches the buttocks rather, doesn't it? -It does. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
-Have you found that when sitting on it? -I have. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
More and more every day now! | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
-I think we should take it to show to Steven. -I think so. -Come on, then. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Now, I can see you've got a circus, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
but where's the ring? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
I'm afraid the ring's at home because I thought it would rain | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
and it would end up a big pile of mush, so I didn't bring it. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
-Oh, what a pity, but you have got it? -I have got a ring, yeah. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
-And it hasn't rained. -No. -Aren't we lucky? | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I absolutely love these circus animals and the clowns. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
And they're all wearing different outfits. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
I just love them, they're wonderful. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
And have your family played with them? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
Yes, I used to play with them when I was a child, absolutely. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
-Did you? -Yes, I loved them, yes. -Hours on end? -Yes, absolutely. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
-Fixing them all up. -I'm not surprised, because they're... | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
-They actually are animated, aren't they? -They are. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
And although they've just got legs that work, this hippopotamus, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
he's absolutely wonderful. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
And even his head moves and his neck. So, I mean, that is fantastic. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
-And do you know who it's by? -I don't know. -You don't? | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
-I know it's called Humpty Dumpty Circus, but that's about it. -Is it? | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
-Oh, right, well, in your family, it is? -No, on the ring. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
-It says it on the ring. -Yep, it does. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
Good, because it's by Albert Schoenhut. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
-Oh, right. -Which, erm, is an American, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
but he was a German refugee, so he was in Philadelphia. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
And he started his company in 1872 | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
and he started making dolls and animals | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
and these are probably early 20th century, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
all made of wood, except for this little lady here, with a bisque head. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
-Do you know where you got them? -They belonged to my godmother. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
-She was born in 1908. -Yes, that figures. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
So we're talking about 1910, 1915, something like that. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
So Schoenhut, to the Americans, is better than it is here, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
except there are a lot of collectors. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
I'm just going to pick one or two things | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
that are more valuable than the others. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
The fact that the animals have got glass eyes is important - | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
and they have. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
And the animals that you should look out for, if you can, is a gorilla, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
-which I don't think you've got. -No, I'm afraid not. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
But you have got a hippopotamus and a giraffe, and that's very nice. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:14 | |
And my favourite is the crocodile, it's wonderful. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
In good condition, as well. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Although they've been played with. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
And the rarest thing for the Schoenhut circus | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
is the bisque-headed circus performer. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:31 | |
And you've got it. So let's put it this way. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
With the whole ring and all these, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
we are talking about between £3,000-4,000. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
Wow. I didn't realise it was that much. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
-I'll carry them home very carefully. -Exactly, exactly. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
Steven, do you mind if I...? | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-I'm so sorry just to interrupt for a minute. -We will get back to you. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
-Now. -OK. -We have here an object brought in by Susie. -Hello, Susie. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:03 | |
Hello. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
Right... Oh, my God. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
-Do you know what this is? -Yes, I do. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
Well, I know what I hope it is. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:11 | |
And what do you hope it is? | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
Well, it looks like the thing we asked for two years ago. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
It's a Francis Bacon stool... | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
-There you are. -..which I never... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
I'm glad I'm sitting down. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-You can sit on that, if you like! -No, I respect it too much. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
You did this on purpose, didn't you? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
Well, what do you think? Susie, tell Steven about it. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
Well, my grandparents bought it from Francis Bacon in 1930. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
He had a studio sale, I think it was advertised in The Studio magazine. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
-Indeed. -In August 1930. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
They loved modern furniture and they went along and bought it | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
and it was my grandmother's dressing table stool. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
So your grandmother... | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Hang on, your grandmother just sat on a Francis Bacon stool, which... | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
Yes, and I use it as my desk stool now. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
Well, it's certainly stood the test of time. | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
It has, it comes into school once a year and girls have a look at it. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:05 | |
It's something I never, ever thought I'd see. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
But to... I'm sorry, I'm sort of... | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
Steven, I'm glad you're so excited, because when I saw it, I... | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
In the nicest way, Susie, I was slightly underwhelmed by it, | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
because it's so plain. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
-Most people are. -But you think this is an object of great beauty? | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
It's not necessarily an object of great beauty, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
but it's an object of great art historical importance. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
-Could you value this? -Yes. £10,000-15,000. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
CROWD GASPS | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
-You might not want to take it into school so often now. -No, perhaps not. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
-Susie, I think you should be sitting down for this. -Yes, I will sit down. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
Have a seat. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
On the Antiques Roadshow, we see a lot of prints, | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
but they rarely see the light of day | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
because there were so many produced | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
over the last 500 years | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
and not often do they - unless they're more of a 20th century type - | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
really catch the eye of the art market. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
And you've got a print here, signed with some very celebrated initials. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:07 | |
-Yes, of Durer. Yes. -Albrecht Durer. -Yes. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
So let's start with how you actually ended up with this. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
I inherited it from my father. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
He had a great eye for art works, all kinds of art works, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
and he bought it in 1971. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
We see so many 19th century copies of Albrecht Durer, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:28 | |
he was one of the most important figures | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
in the history of art, in many ways. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
But also, in the 19th century, the Victorian period, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
he was particularly copied. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
We see facsimiles all the time with the famous AD | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
banged there at the bottom of the image. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
I'm going to return in a moment | 0:44:46 | 0:44:47 | |
as to whether or not this is a 19th century copy, or fake. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
But just for a moment, let's talk about Albrecht Durer, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
because he's one of those figures who's almost up there | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
-with someone like Leonardo. -Yes. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
And his particular contribution to the history of Western culture was | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
he knitted the Renaissance that was going on in Italy, | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
with all of those great artists there, with the North, with Germany. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
He was born in Nuremburg | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
and active in the late 15th and early 16th century. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
And so, he introduced ideas of beauty and realism and perspective | 0:45:17 | 0:45:23 | |
and amazed his German contemporaries. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
And this print here is a beautiful example of just that, | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
because you've got, in that rather divine face of the virgin, | 0:45:30 | 0:45:34 | |
the look almost of a Botticelli. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
And then, if you move your eye to the right, | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
you've got a sort of northern cuckoo clock-like building. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
And you can't get a better example of how north and south are amalgamating. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:51 | |
And the image, which is a very devout, religious one, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
with the Christ child on the virgin's lap, is full of detail. | 0:45:54 | 0:46:00 | |
And Durer loved all of that. His pictures were very instructive. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
What is particularly noteworthy | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
is the monkey that's tethered at her feet. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
The monkey represents base human qualities | 0:46:10 | 0:46:15 | |
in the iconography of this period - | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
everything that a human shouldn't be. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
You know, naughty, malevolent, full of vice. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
But the point is that it's tethered. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
And so, it's a lovely, graphic example of female virtue, | 0:46:28 | 0:46:33 | |
in this case, divine female virtue, | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
being able to overcome monkeyish aspects and attributes. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
And that's the sort of games he played. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
So back to the artist, Albrecht Durer | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
and whether or not this is a 19th century example or an original. | 0:46:45 | 0:46:51 | |
Well, it's very difficult sometimes to determine with prints. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
But this, to me, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
has very specific attributes that tie it to its period. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:03 | |
And I have to say, from what I can see, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
this is an original Albrecht Durer print. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:11 | |
-Now, it is a print. -Yes. -It's not an oil painting. -No. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
But it is nonetheless a very significant thing | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
because of his towering role | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
in the tying together of different culture currents | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
in the early Renaissance. | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
-So it comes to value. -Yes. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
Well, I have to say, subject to just a few checks, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
given that prints are a complex area, and Durer in particular, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
I think this could be worth up to about £20,000. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
That's really good news. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
That's really good news, thank you very much. Very exciting! | 0:47:46 | 0:47:50 | |
CROWD APPLAUD | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
Of all the things we've seen here today at Stowe, I think... | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
THIS has to be the most extraordinary. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:07 | |
It is the egg of the now-extinct elephant bird, native of Madagascar. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
Became extinct in about the 17th century, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
was, I think, the heaviest known bird, which it must have been! | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
I mean, how big must it have been to lay this? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
Just makes my eyes water, just thinking about it. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
Anyway, it's now in the science lab here at Stowe School | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
and has delighted boys and girls in the science lab | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
ever since it was brought along. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
From the egg, and the Antiques Roadshow team, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 |