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This is one of Britain's most majestic rooms.

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Many years ago, a very naughty schoolboy clambered along

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this ledge, up over the figures here, onto the next ledge

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and jammed a tennis ball into the frieze.

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And then, when restoration work was done,

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the tennis ball was taken out, painted over and put back,

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and is now the world's only Grade 1 listed tennis ball.

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Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow

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from Stowe House and Gardens in Buckinghamshire.

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Stowe House and Gardens belonged to the Temple-Grenville family who,

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in the 18th century, employed the best designers to create

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an inspiring landscape and magnificent architecture.

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But as the family fortune waned, the estate fell into disrepair

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and was on the verge of being demolished.

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The house was saved in 1923 by becoming a school.

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The majestic gardens were rescued in 1990 by the National Trust.

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And in 1997, The Stowe House Preservation Trust was created

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to restore it to its former magnificence.

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As you can see, they're still hard at work today

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here in the elegant music room.

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Many slivers of gold leaf are being

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painstakingly applied to the mouldings.

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Stowe House is the largest restoration project of its kind

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in the UK, quite possibly in the world.

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The house was listed as one of the most endangered sites,

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as water seeped into the building and ceilings were close to collapse.

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When restoration began over the north and south entrances,

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the scaffolding became the largest free-standing

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structure in the world.

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This is before...

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and this is after.

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When you look around the marble saloon,

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you can see what all the fuss is about.

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This was built in 1775 and, I think it's fair to say, it's probably

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the finest and most elegant room in the land

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and it has no purpose or function as a room.

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It's just built to impress.

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It's a majestic, elliptical shape that is 56 feet up to the centre,

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or oculus, up there.

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It's based on the Pantheon in Rome and is a marvel of engineering,

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geometry and artistry.

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As you can see, the restoration work is truly worth it.

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These figures just appear to be bursting out of the ceiling.

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We're delighted to be holding our show in this grand setting,

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as guests of Stowe School and the National Trust.

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I think this is a Roadshow first for me.

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I can't remember ever having talked about a bed.

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But what a good bed and it wouldn't actually look that uncomfortable

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in one of the rooms here. It's got the right

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-presence about it.

-Exactly.

-So, is this your bed?

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-It is my bed, yes, yes.

-A family piece?

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Yes, it was inherited from a great-aunt whose

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grandparents bought it originally

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in auction, in 1904, in London.

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1904. So by that stage, it had already travelled,

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because this bed started its life at the turn of the century in France.

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Although actually, looking at it,

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it has got quite an Italianate feel, but it was a smart bed,

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made in burr walnut here, this lovely walnut,

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an ordinary grained walnut, but it was a bed with a presence.

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-Now, you sleep in it.

-Yes, I do.

-And you love it?

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-I love it, yeah, definitely.

-Why do you love it?

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Oh, it's just such a beautiful piece,

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and obviously it has real family... It's a family heirloom now.

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So did you know, did you know her?

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Yes, she was my great-great-aunt.

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And did great-aunt have a name?

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Auntie Connie and she was five foot tall.

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So she was very small.

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She was very small and, because the bed was so high at the time,

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she actually had to use a step to climb up into it,

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even when she was 99, when she still slept in it.

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Oh, how fantastic. So she had a pair of steps to get up into bed.

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-Yes, yes.

-I mean I love this sort of architectural pediment here,

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but if there was one element that I could chop off and take it home,

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honestly, these are to die for, aren't they? They're so tactile.

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You know, you could just slice them off at the collar, put them

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on little plinths and have them as a decorative ornament. Not that

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I think in any way I'm suggesting that you should do such a thing.

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And it's a very masculine bed, so it's a bed that you would expect

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to be in a dressing room, somewhere that, when the husband isn't

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sleeping very well, he can slip away and sleep comfortably on his own.

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And do you think there was ever a pair of these?

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We're led to believe there may have been, yes.

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Because, of course, these days, one of a pair is...

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Everybody says, "Where's the other one?"

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And, of course, that must have a bearing on its value.

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It's fabulous quality. Where would you go and get another?

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But, you know, if you put it in an auction,

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its pre-sale would probably be somewhere between £600 and £800.

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-Ooh, lovely.

-Wow.

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Not that we're going to sell it.

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I don't think there's any chance from what you're saying.

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-No chance!

-No, not at all.

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This is a piece that absolutely oozes quality.

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And the inscription

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does explain why.

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"The Royal South Bucks Agricultural Association

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"from HRH The Prince Consort

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"to the grower of the best root crop, 1860."

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Now, who was the grower of the best root crop?

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It was one of our ancestors, obviously.

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It's been passed down the family,

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so I should think it was probably the boys' great-great-great-grandfather

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that was actually presented with this cup.

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And it's super to have that sort of continuity.

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And, of course, when you think about it, 1860,

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that is actually the year before Prince Albert died.

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Yes, that's right, yes.

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Now, you don't see so many pieces associated with Prince Albert.

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As I say, that obviously explains the quality,

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all of this decoration is most beautifully applied to the piece

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and, of course, if we then look at the marks,

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we've got 1860 as the London hallmark

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and, not surprisingly, the Royal Goldsmith, Robert Garrard.

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But I do love this, absolutely wonderful here,

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the A, of course, for Albert under the royal crown

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and the laurels again, for the victors.

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What a piece. So...value...

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Mmm.

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I would suggest that, today, you would be very hard pushed

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to buy such a piece for less than about £4,500.

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Goodness.

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Right, thank you very much.

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That's...an amazing figure. Thank you.

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Now, you've brought along this little autograph album.

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Who's in it?

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There are a lot of signatures of Victoria Cross winners.

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-Now, why is that? Was it yours?

-No.

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This belonged to my father-in-law,

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who took my husband to Windsor one day.

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At the Castle, there happened to be a garden party

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for the Victoria Cross winners...

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-Right.

-..and he collected these on the way out.

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So did he have the autograph album with him?

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No, he rushed along to Woolworths and he bought it.

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Let's have a quick look in it.

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The first one we turn to

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says Reverend AH Proctor, VC.

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Now, I happen to know that Proctor, who wasn't a Reverend,

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-at the time of the First World War...

-Oh, right. Yes.

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..went out over the top of the trenches, because he saw two men.

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They were wounded. He went out under heavy gunfire

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and he dressed their wounds, took them warm clothing,

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promised that they'd be rescued,

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-after sunset in the dark and, after dark, they were rescued.

-Gosh.

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And for that, he was awarded the Victoria Cross.

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Let's have a look further on.

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Now, we've got one here

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for WB Butler,

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-West Yorkshire Regiment.

-Yep.

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Now, he was in charge of a mortar in the trenches

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during the First World War

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and accidentally the lever of one flew off

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and it was in danger of exploding, so quickly,

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he took the mortar, put it in front of him,

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turned away from all the other troops that were behind him

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and said, "Get out, quick!"

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And they all rushed to safety and, when they had got to safety,

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he threw it over the top of the trench and it exploded instantly.

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So he saved all those lives and again, for that,

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he was awarded the Victoria Cross.

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-Now, how many have you got in here, do you know?

-There are 37.

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Now, that's very valuable.

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I think this is going to be worth...

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£1,500-£2,000.

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-For this tiny little book, tiny little book!

-I can't believe it!

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My husband will be delighted.

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Now, like most people of my generation,

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I will willingly confess to being a Beatles fan.

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I'm old enough to have grown up with them.

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Indeed, I saw them in December 1963.

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So, here we have, rather unexpectedly,

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clearly a Beatles story,

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but it's something with a difference, isn't it?

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Where does it begin?

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It begins in the Cavern Club, back in Liverpool.

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And an Old Stoic called David Moors, who was 17-years-old,

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great Beatles fan, heard about...

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-He went to this school?

-He went to this school

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and heard about the Beatles playing in his local town.

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Went to visit the Cavern Club, I think it was a lunchtime concert,

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rather than the evening concerts, and thought,

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"This is a band that I'd like some of my friends to hear."

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He had the initiative to write to their manager, Brian Epstein...

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-Aged 17.

-Aged 17.

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He invites the Beatles to come and play at Stowe

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and so, this is the beginning of a correspondence that we've got,

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starting on January 13, and then moving all the way through to April.

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This is the documentation of that gig, if you like.

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It's one gig, from inception to completion.

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Which is a very, very rare collection of material.

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It's got the contract, it's got a photograph of the gig,

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-it's the whole history of it, isn't it?

-It is.

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Let's get this straight, this is obviously a Stowe story.

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Where do you fit in?

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Well, I'm the seventh headmaster of Stowe and you'll be pleased to hear,

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I wasn't headmaster of Stowe in 1963 when the Beatles came to play.

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-Were you a boy, then?

-I wasn't born in February 1963.

-Fair enough.

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-I was a twinkle in the eye.

-Yeah, OK.

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What surprises me is several things. One...

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I would never have thought the words "Stowe" and "Beatles"

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-had any connection whatsoever.

-Yeah.

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What was it like for them, coming to play

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in a famous public school, straight out of Liverpool?

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I think for them, it was a bit of a shock.

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Paul McCartney tells the story that, when he came to Stowe

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and the boys showed him round,

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the first impression that he had

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of some of their studies was how unbelievably squalid the rooms were.

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They thought they were going to see this wonderful neoclassical building,

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Palladian splendour and, of course, boarding schools in 1963

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were rather different to boarding schools in 2012.

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Do we know the playlist for that great night?

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I think it started with Twist and Shout.

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And then the set progressed through Please Please Me, the album.

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What I love about this is the fact that, when Brian Epstein realised

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that he was corresponding with a 17-year-old boy,

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it would be good to have the whole contract

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countersigned by your housemaster,

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-because it's not legal if you're just at school.

-Yeah.

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Where does that take us with all the sculpture?

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-So, the sculpture, the link with the Beatles is David Wynne...

-Yes.

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..who, of course, is one of our finest sculptors.

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-Did he go here, as well?

-Here's an old boy. An Old Stoic.

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He was here in the Roxbury years, during World War II

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and he was completing a show

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for a gallery called Tooths and, in the show,

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there was a series of busts featuring famous musicians,

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so Thomas Beecham, the conductor,

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Yehudi Menuhin and a number of other people

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who were celebrated at the time and he wrote to Epstein, saying,

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"I'd like something a bit more contemporary, can I do the Beatles?"

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And Epstein wrote back to say, "Well, you can,

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"but you'll have to go to Paris, because the boys are recording

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"and they're playing at the Olympia Stadium

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"and they're there for ten days." So, David turned up,

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went to the George V Hotel. Modelled them with clay...

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-And the rest is history.

-..and the rest is history.

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Now, we're looking at a lot of stuff and a lot of very important things.

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I'm only going to give you a global value,

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because I think breaking it down into bits and pieces is unhelpful.

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This is a great archive, it's a great range of material,

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you've got to be looking at at least £50,000,

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probably between £50,000 and £100,000,

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because of the intricacy, the rarity

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and, of course, the sculptural quality of the things involved.

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-So...

-I will have to tell our insurers that.

-Good.

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Thank you, Paul, very nice to see you.

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-Do you know who she is?

-All we know is she's a dancing naked girl.

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We're hoping you'll be to tell us.

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Well, her name was Lady Constance Richardson.

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She was of nobility, obviously,

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and she was a suffragette, an athlete and a ballet dancer.

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And she was certainly dancing at the time of Isadora Duncan,

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was influenced by her, and was considered quite avant-garde,

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because a titled lady to be dancing in scantily-dressed costume

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was thought slightly risque, so she was quite a gal about town, I think.

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And, obviously captured in this fantastic pose

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by the sculptor Carlo Troubetzkoy, Count Troubetzkoy

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and it's dated Paris, 1935.

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What's the history behind it?

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I think my stepfather-in-law would have bought it, immediately,

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in 1935 or 1936.

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He was a bit of a collector of sculpture and of paintings

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and we are lucky enough to have inherited it, my wife and I.

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And is it something that has pride of place at home?

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Yes, certainly, it's where everybody can see it.

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And gets a ring on its toe for Christmas.

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Oh, cool!

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So I'm glad she doesn't just come out for Christmas.

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I think she has lots of energy, lots of exuberance, you know,

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a great history behind her and I think she was quite a naughty girl,

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-which I also quite like, as well.

-Yes.

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Worth quite a considerable amount of money,

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I have no idea how much he paid for it back in 1935,

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but it wouldn't have been too much, I'm sure.

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I wouldn't have thought so.

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Today at auction, I would see this as a figure between

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£15,000 and £20,000.

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That's very interesting.

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-Well, this chap looks a bit familiar.

-Yes, Nelson.

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-The Horatio boy.

-Yes.

-And it's quite a glass, isn't it?

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It doesn't leave a lot to the imagination,

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"Conqueror at..." and then his great victories,

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terminating with 1805, at Trafalgar.

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So...where does Horatio come into your life?

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The glass belonged to one of my partners and he died.

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We used to use them when we went for dinner and that sort of thing

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and I bought them from the widow, both of them

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-and we use them at home, as well, from time to time.

-Sure.

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The other being the matching piece, with exactly the same composition,

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with the portrait on the front, with the list of victories on the back.

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So you bought them when?

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-In about 1998.

-OK.

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And what about the money, how much did you part with?

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-£750.

-For the two?

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-For each one.

-For each one.

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I'm going to have to kill you, you know? I'm going to kill you,

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because they're wrong.

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-Oh, are they?

-They are.

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The amount of pleasure I'm going to get from giving you a kicking

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is none! I have no pleasure in telling you that they're out of time

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-by 100 years.

-Oh, are they?

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They are! I'm really sorry to have to tell you, but they are wrong.

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-OK.

-Now, let's break this down, in comprehensible

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and bite-sized pieces. This is a right glass,

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this one is right. If we look at the base,

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I think this is probably a period rummer,

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from the right date. So the glass is the right date,

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-but the engraving is 100 years later.

-Right.

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If I exchange...

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then I think that's a wrong 'un. I think...

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you will see differences between these glasses.

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This has a polished pontil here and rather mechanical wear

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and I'm afraid that, I think, that this glass

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actually dates, not from 1815,

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-but more like 1925.

-Really?

-I do.

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Now, a glass dealer, by the name of Churchill, in the '30s,

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held an exhibition called Glass With History. History glasses.

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And a load of these turned up, like, a LOAD of these turned up.

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-And basically, they were made to meet a demand.

-OK.

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So if there's enough of a demand and enough money is being available,

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people are prepared to pay the sort of money you might be familiar with,

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then they'll make 'em

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and the way they were sold, I'm not sure it was fraud,

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whether the people were buying them knew this, I don't know,

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because I'm not there, it's 1930s, but the fact is...

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-..that they're stinkers.

-Oh, you reckon?

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I'm really sorry. And so, you're into it for £1,500

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-and their value...

-£100.

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-Each.

-Oh, right.

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That's the good news, it's £100 each!

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-£150 each.

-OK.

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-They have an academic curiosity...

-Yes.

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..and for £150, they'd reach that.

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-But that's a little bit down.

-It is, isn't it?!

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This week, our Basic Better Best challenge

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features some of the tiniest portraits

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we've ever seen on the Roadshow.

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But believe me, they have the biggest of values.

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They've been brought along by Philip Mould, our painting specialist

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and the Basic miniature is worth £150,

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the Better one, £7,500

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and then there's a great leap to the Best one,

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which is worth £65,000.

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Yes, have a look at home and in the meantime,

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I'll see what our visitors think.

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Yes, usually the smallest one is the most expensive.

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In your great experience of this?

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I don't know, I've not bought many miniatures in my life.

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-Have you bought any?

-None.

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-Do you know what miniatures were used for?

-Yeah.

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Instead of a passport photograph or sending a photo to a friend you'd send a portrait,

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because there were no cameras back then.

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-Let's look at these miniatures here.

-I would say the Basic is this one.

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-Because it's quite plain?

-It's plain and ordinary. That's the Basic.

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I would say that the middle one is actually the Better one.

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I would say that this one on the end is the Best,

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I think it looks older and slightly classier, I'd say.

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I don't know, he looks a bit of a boring old chap,

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I think I will leave that with the Basic. Yes, definitely.

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Although, on second thoughts, he looks rather charming...

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-We're going to be a long time.

-Move that round to there.

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This one's the Basic.

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-Right.

-I think that's the Better one.

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I think that's the best one

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because even though it's quite simple,

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I think that they were trying to go for a simple look.

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-Simple, but classy?

-Yes.

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-So come on, them,...

-Um...

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-Well, er...

-We'll be here all day!

-We could, we could,

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-we could. I think this is going to be the Best one.

-Right.

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This goes back to the Basic

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and this young lady I think is the Better one.

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-So, Basic.

-Yes.

-Better.

-Yes.

-Best.

-Yes.

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-Final decision?

-Absolutely, yes.

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-What a relief.

-Which one...?

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-Can I take one with me?

-No, you cannot!

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Oh, right. Right, OK. Thank you.

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Amazing - gold, purple, rich, amethyst,

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all together in one piece of jewellery,

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just says it all to me. How did you get hold of it?

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I was given it by a very old friend of my mother's for my 25th birthday.

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And she had had it in her family,

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who were a combination of Lee-Warners,

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who used to own Walsingham Abbey,

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and the other side of the family, were the FitzClarences,

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the natural children of the sovereign,

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and they became the Earls of Munster

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-and I believe it came from that side.

-Gosh.

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So quite a provenance and just a magnificent piece of jewellery,

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which has lots of regal qualities to it in many ways,

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from the colour of the amethyst through to this

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very beautiful gold work, which is known as repousse work

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and it's basically the way the gold creates this lovely swirl

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and fluting effect to give it body,

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as if it's going to be a very heavy piece of jewellery.

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-Do you wear it at all?

-Yes, I do, I wear it quite a lot

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and my daughter has worn it for about eight or nine years now

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-and used to wear it at balls, when she went to Oxford.

-Fantastic.

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It's having the provenance that it has,

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it fits in with the makers, Rundell, Bridge and Rundell,

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who were Crown jewellers to George III

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and produced some of the most stunning pieces of jewellery

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from this period. When you pick it up, as I mentioned,

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it looks as though it's going to be a heavy piece of jewellery to wear,

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but it's actually relatively light,

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which is a good thing about jewellery from this period.

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The other thing about it is that it breaks up

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and you can play around with it

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and make some really interesting and different pieces of jewellery,

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using the different combinations of the parts.

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Here we can see that there's a link at the top

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and also either side of this central amethyst section

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and so you can actually undo the chain and create a bracelet

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or perhaps, just a plain choker

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and maybe use the amethyst as a central section

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for the bracelet, as well.

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The combinations are there to be enjoyed

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and it's just wonderful that you are wearing it in that way.

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In terms of value, of course, we really do have a very

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interesting piece from this period in history and should it come up

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for sale at auction, if you ever decide to part with it, which

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I'm sure you're not going to do, with the association that it has

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and the fact it points in the direction

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of Rundell, Bridge and Rundell designers and jewellers,

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then we would be expecting it to get

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somewhere between 4,000 and 6,000 at auction.

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A pocket watch by Cartier. And a coin. What's the story?

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My grandfather was a jeweller.

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He collected things and that's really all I know.

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I was passed them down, one to my brother, which is the medallion,

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and the pocket watch to me. So we're very lucky.

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What I find fascinating about this pocket watch

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is not that it's by Cartier, although that's the icing on the cake.

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Yes, it's a Cartier pocket watch,

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but the really unusual thing to look at, immediately

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looking at the front of it, is that the winding button is there

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below six, which is unusual.

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You would normally expect it to be up where the pendant is.

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When you turn it round, it becomes apparent

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that it has this rather unusual stand built into it.

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I have never seen that before on a Cartier pocket watch.

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And I must have seen maybe thousands of Cartier pocket watches,

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but I've never seen one with this rather beautiful integral stand.

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It was obviously purpose-made for a particularly wealthy client,

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who wanted his watch to sit in his waistcoat pocket

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and, when he wasn't wearing it, he could put it on his desk

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and there it would be looking at him.

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It's just the most beautiful piece of engineering in gold

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and it's a very beautiful dress watch.

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And are you pleased with this? Do you think you've got the better deal?

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-Yes.

-Honestly?

-Yes, I do.

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-Are you the older brother?

-Younger.

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And you reckon you got the better deal?

0:26:400:26:42

We didn't get a choice, but I was much happier with that.

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-I wore it on my wedding, as well.

-OK.

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So if I was to tell you this watch is worth at auction

0:26:470:26:51

-between £4,000-£6,000, happy?

-Very. Yes, very.

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Shall we have a look at big brother?

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You're going to tell me that one's better, aren't you?

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What's a medal doing in a box?

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My grandpa's aunt was an opera singer

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and she was in a particularly prestigious opera,

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I don't know which. She was given that medal.

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On one side it says, "Royal Academy of Music for Operatic Singing,

0:27:150:27:19

"instituted in 1822."

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On the other side, it has Gilbert R Betjeman.

0:27:220:27:27

On the band, it says here, Margaret Ismay 1909.

0:27:270:27:32

-Margaret Ismay was your great-aunt?

-That's it.

0:27:320:27:38

From what I understand,

0:27:380:27:39

she immediately went off to Cartier, where they did a remarkable thing.

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They incised the top of it. Somehow raised it off,

0:27:470:27:52

put a watch inside and put the cover back on,

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so that you can see the medal and you would never believe that,

0:27:570:28:00

when you push the little button at the side,

0:28:000:28:04

inside is a lovely Cartier watch. Amazing.

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Coin watches aren't all that unusual, to be honest.

0:28:070:28:13

And Cartier did make coin watches, as did other manufacturers.

0:28:130:28:17

But in this instance, when someone takes their medal around to Cartier

0:28:170:28:22

and has a coin watch made out of it, it is pretty amazing, actually.

0:28:220:28:26

I've never seen the like before. Now, who came out best?

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I love this bit.

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I don't know whether there are any opera buffs about who would pay over and above

0:28:310:28:36

rather like medal collectors and that sort of thing.

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But I suspect there probably are.

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And I suspect it would interest them.

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Opera people tend to be fairly well-healed,

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and it has a Cartier watch inside. And it's a coin watch.

0:28:450:28:49

I think he did a bit better than you, I'm sorry to say.

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I think this is worth at least £6,000-£8,000 at auction.

0:28:540:28:58

-Wow. He's done it again.

-These big brothers!

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My big brother does it to me, too.

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Somehow he always comes out on top.

0:29:030:29:05

-You just have to deal with it?

-You do.

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This week, our Basic, Better, Best challenge

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is a perfect work in miniature.

0:29:220:29:23

Philip Mould, our art specialist, has brought along three miniatures.

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The Basic one, worth £150, the Better one, worth £7,500,

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and the Best one is worth £65,000.

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A massive value for something so tiny.

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I've spoken to our visitors, to see what they think.

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Philip, it was a very tricky one, this,

0:29:430:29:47

and there was no consensus as to which was which.

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Now, am I right in thinking that these miniatures,

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or miniatures in general, were used by suitors

0:29:540:29:56

to show what they looked like

0:29:560:29:58

to the person they hoped to be betrothed to?

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I mean, they were very hot, intimate things.

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Often held in the hand, often worn close to the body.

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So, yes, they perform a completely different role

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from that of big paintings on walls.

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And a lot of the role of photography today

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has taken the intimate place of the miniature painting.

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When were these popular?

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Well, all of these are, in fact, from the 18th century,

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which was the century in which the art of the miniature triumphed.

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And what should one look for, when you're trying to assess a miniature

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and its value, its importance, or significance, where do you begin?

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I suppose the same principles apply to miniatures

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as do to other areas in the art market.

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Quality. A very good name.

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By a name, I mean not only the artist's name, but also the subject.

0:30:440:30:48

The attraction of the image.

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I mean, it's a cruel thing, the art world,

0:30:500:30:53

but a sweet-looking woman sells rather better than a plain old man.

0:30:530:30:58

Well, I'm already beginning to think I might have made the wrong choice, in that case!

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Let's go for it. I put this as Basic, this as Better -

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despite what I believed must be diamonds.

0:31:060:31:08

I thought you might be bowling me a googly there.

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So I thought, no, I'll put that as Better.

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And this is as Best, hoping perhaps that this is a rare image.

0:31:120:31:17

Well, I have to say, rather boringly,

0:31:170:31:18

I was hoping you were going to be seduced by that man's green jacket.

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-That is the most basic.

-Oh, good!

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I thought, just it was the plainest, that was the only reason.

0:31:250:31:28

-So why is this only worth £150?

-This is by an amateur artist.

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We know that, apart from anything else, because it's on vellum.

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And by this time, 1760s, 1770s,

0:31:370:31:39

miniature painting was done on ivory.

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If you were a serious artist, you would do it on that backing,

0:31:410:31:44

not on vellum.

0:31:440:31:45

-So this is vellum.

-This is vellum.

-In a plain little frame.

0:31:450:31:48

Yes, by an amateur artist, unknown.

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So the next one? The one worth £7,500.

0:31:510:31:55

You know, this is really infuriating. You've got that right, as well.

0:31:550:31:59

Ho-ho-ho!

0:31:590:32:02

Good.

0:32:020:32:03

I mean, this looks spectacular and is so beautiful

0:32:030:32:07

-of this... Is it a young lady, a young girl?

-It's a boy.

-Is it?!

0:32:070:32:13

Look, not only is it a boy, it's a very aristocratic boy.

0:32:130:32:17

It's the Second Earl Spencer,

0:32:170:32:19

who is brother to the famous Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire.

0:32:190:32:23

And this is an image done by Richard Cosway,

0:32:230:32:27

who was the leading miniaturist in the late-18th century.

0:32:270:32:31

He was the sort of... He was the Gainsborough of miniatures.

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And probably worn by his mother when he went away to school.

0:32:350:32:39

Again, it comes back to this idea of these soft, intimate images

0:32:390:32:43

that are only designed to be seen by one person.

0:32:430:32:47

When we look at paintings on walls it's a sort of public thing,

0:32:470:32:49

we all sort of stand back,

0:32:490:32:51

but these things were designed to commune with, really.

0:32:510:32:54

So here we have the humdinger, at £65,000.

0:32:540:32:58

Now, is it the artist or is it the sitter that makes that so valuable?

0:32:580:33:01

Both. This is by an artist called Grigorii Musikiiskii,

0:33:010:33:05

who was the court enamellist to Peter the Great.

0:33:050:33:08

This was a phenomenally important time in the history of Russia

0:33:080:33:12

and Russian culture.

0:33:120:33:14

And this is Peter the Great himself, by the artist.

0:33:140:33:19

Now, the artist was known for his enamels

0:33:190:33:21

and this is the only surviving,

0:33:210:33:23

remaining work on vellum by Musikiiskii.

0:33:230:33:28

It's signed, it's dated, it's inscribed.

0:33:280:33:30

This is really a sort of confluence of major commercial factors.

0:33:300:33:36

A very rare artist, an incredibly important sitter, and Russian.

0:33:360:33:40

And Russian objects, Russian antiques are greatly sought by Russians.

0:33:400:33:46

And the Russian art market, of course, is burgeoning

0:33:460:33:49

and people are loving to buy Russian artefacts,

0:33:490:33:51

aren't they, at the moment?

0:33:510:33:53

Well, there we... I could see past the bling, Philip, that's the thing.

0:33:530:33:56

Actually, it was all luck, to be honest.

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If you have miniatures at home, you have got some idea what to look for.

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And there are more tips, if you want to look on our website...

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Now, I have to say, you bear

0:34:070:34:11

a striking resemblance to the lady in this portrait.

0:34:110:34:14

-Now, why is that?

-Well, I would hope so.

0:34:140:34:17

This is my grandmother and this is my mother when she was a girl.

0:34:170:34:22

And where did you get the painting from?

0:34:220:34:25

Apparently, when my grandad was in the Second World War,

0:34:250:34:29

he was at the Battle of Monte Cassino

0:34:290:34:33

and whilst he was out there he had no children,

0:34:330:34:37

but my grandmother went on to have a child, which he wasn't aware of.

0:34:370:34:41

She wrote to him and said, "I've had a baby, her name's Susan."

0:34:410:34:46

And when she was about 15 months, in this photo, they sent...

0:34:460:34:51

My nan sent this picture, which my grandad carried in his wallet.

0:34:510:34:55

And whilst he was there, after the battle, he met some partisans

0:34:550:35:02

that were seven brothers, I was told, that were artists

0:35:020:35:05

and one of them painted this picture.

0:35:050:35:08

They painted it on the back of an orange box.

0:35:080:35:11

So this is actually painted? That's actually on an orange box?

0:35:110:35:16

It is, yeah.

0:35:160:35:18

It must have been an incredibly emotional experience for him

0:35:180:35:23

to suddenly find out that he had a child.

0:35:230:35:25

Yeah, yeah.

0:35:250:35:27

And to receive this photograph must have been a wonderful thing for him.

0:35:270:35:31

I think that happened a lot in them times,

0:35:310:35:34

people went to war and children were born.

0:35:340:35:37

Unfortunately, he didn't see my mum,

0:35:370:35:39

when he came back with the photo, until she was three-years-old.

0:35:390:35:42

So she was 14-15 months old there

0:35:420:35:43

and she was three when he finally came home and saw her.

0:35:430:35:48

-But you've got a photograph of him, as well, haven't you?

-Yes, I have.

0:35:480:35:51

-Which one is he?

-This is my grandad here.

-And what rank was he?

0:35:510:35:56

Well, from what I'm given to understand,

0:35:560:35:58

he was with the 8th Division

0:35:580:36:01

and was part of the military police.

0:36:010:36:04

So a lot of his work was after the battles, the clean-up process,

0:36:040:36:08

which accounts for why he was still there after the battle.

0:36:080:36:11

-Now, he would have been with the Eighth Army.

-Yes.

0:36:110:36:14

Now, you say he was fighting at the Battle of Monte Cassino.

0:36:140:36:17

This was in 1944, in Italy,

0:36:170:36:21

and it was an infamous battle for both sides,

0:36:210:36:24

but, actually, particularly the Allies.

0:36:240:36:26

-He's got a wonderful group of medals here.

-Yes, he has. He has got some...

0:36:260:36:30

Yeah, he has got some nice medals and oak leaves, yeah, he has.

0:36:300:36:34

So he obviously did something fairly brave to be Mentioned In Despatches,

0:36:340:36:37

which is what these oak leaves represent.

0:36:370:36:39

Now, look, what about value?

0:36:390:36:42

It's more of a sentimental value, I think, to you?

0:36:420:36:44

-Oh, yeah.

-You could never replace it.

0:36:440:36:46

Portraits like this are very difficult to sell on the open market.

0:36:480:36:52

Commercially, it would be worth relatively little.

0:36:520:36:55

-Probably, would you believe, less than £100?

-Wow.

0:36:550:36:58

-That's not the point, though.

-No, no.

0:36:580:37:00

It has huge value to you and the family, because it means something.

0:37:000:37:05

You've told us the story, the emotional attachment it has for you.

0:37:050:37:09

As far as the medals are concerned,

0:37:090:37:11

we can attribute the medals to this man.

0:37:110:37:14

That's the great thing about the family medal, family knowledge.

0:37:140:37:18

So the medals themselves are probably worth...

0:37:180:37:20

You've got more photographs, by the way?

0:37:200:37:23

-Yes, we have, we've got lots of photographs. He was...

-Documents?

0:37:230:37:26

-Yes, all documents. Everything.

-Ah! That all adds to the value.

0:37:260:37:30

So the medals, the photographs, the documents,

0:37:300:37:33

they're going to be worth something in the region of £300-500.

0:37:330:37:38

So it's a lovely little family group of objects

0:37:380:37:41

and I find it quite an emotional experience talking about this today.

0:37:410:37:45

It's a lovely story. It's a lovely story.

0:37:450:37:48

You may remember that, a few programmes ago,

0:37:500:37:52

we were asking our experts what they would most like to see on a Roadshow

0:37:520:37:55

and our ceramics specialist, Steven Moore,

0:37:550:37:57

said he would most like to see furniture

0:37:570:38:00

designed by the artist Francis Bacon.

0:38:000:38:02

Very, very rare.

0:38:020:38:04

Now, Susie, you have brought along some furniture by Francis Bacon.

0:38:040:38:09

-I have.

-You just had this hanging around the house?

0:38:090:38:12

Well, my grandparents bought it from Francis Bacon in 1930.

0:38:120:38:15

-And do you use it?

-Yes, it's used on a daily basis, it's my desk stool.

0:38:150:38:20

Now, I didn't know, until Steven mentioned it,

0:38:200:38:22

that Francis Bacon had made furniture,

0:38:220:38:24

because, of course, that's not what he's known for.

0:38:240:38:27

He is going to be thrilled to see this.

0:38:270:38:29

Can we have a little sneak preview?

0:38:290:38:30

Yes, do. It's going to be a bit disappointing to you, I think, but he'll be excited.

0:38:300:38:35

-It is slightly underwhelming.

-Yes.

0:38:360:38:39

Well, it's 1930s Modernism, you know, wonderful functionalism.

0:38:390:38:43

-Obviously it's a stool. Can I sit on it?

-Yes, you can. Yes, please do.

0:38:430:38:47

Can I sit on the Francis Bacon stool?

0:38:470:38:51

-It sort of...clenches the buttocks rather, doesn't it?

-It does.

0:38:510:38:55

-Have you found that when sitting on it?

-I have.

0:38:550:38:57

More and more every day now!

0:38:570:38:59

-I think we should take it to show to Steven.

-I think so.

-Come on, then.

0:39:020:39:06

Now, I can see you've got a circus,

0:39:080:39:09

but where's the ring?

0:39:090:39:11

I'm afraid the ring's at home because I thought it would rain

0:39:110:39:14

and it would end up a big pile of mush, so I didn't bring it.

0:39:140:39:17

-Oh, what a pity, but you have got it?

-I have got a ring, yeah.

0:39:170:39:20

-And it hasn't rained.

-No.

-Aren't we lucky?

0:39:200:39:23

I absolutely love these circus animals and the clowns.

0:39:230:39:27

And they're all wearing different outfits.

0:39:270:39:29

I just love them, they're wonderful.

0:39:290:39:31

And have your family played with them?

0:39:310:39:33

Yes, I used to play with them when I was a child, absolutely.

0:39:330:39:36

-Did you?

-Yes, I loved them, yes.

-Hours on end?

-Yes, absolutely.

0:39:360:39:39

-Fixing them all up.

-I'm not surprised, because they're...

0:39:390:39:43

-They actually are animated, aren't they?

-They are.

0:39:430:39:45

And although they've just got legs that work, this hippopotamus,

0:39:450:39:49

he's absolutely wonderful.

0:39:490:39:51

And even his head moves and his neck. So, I mean, that is fantastic.

0:39:510:39:56

-And do you know who it's by?

-I don't know.

-You don't?

0:39:560:40:00

-I know it's called Humpty Dumpty Circus, but that's about it.

-Is it?

0:40:000:40:03

-Oh, right, well, in your family, it is?

-No, on the ring.

0:40:030:40:05

-It says it on the ring.

-Yep, it does.

0:40:050:40:08

Good, because it's by Albert Schoenhut.

0:40:080:40:11

-Oh, right.

-Which, erm, is an American,

0:40:110:40:14

but he was a German refugee, so he was in Philadelphia.

0:40:140:40:18

And he started his company in 1872

0:40:180:40:21

and he started making dolls and animals

0:40:210:40:24

and these are probably early 20th century,

0:40:240:40:29

all made of wood, except for this little lady here, with a bisque head.

0:40:290:40:34

-Do you know where you got them?

-They belonged to my godmother.

0:40:340:40:37

-She was born in 1908.

-Yes, that figures.

0:40:370:40:42

So we're talking about 1910, 1915, something like that.

0:40:420:40:46

So Schoenhut, to the Americans, is better than it is here,

0:40:460:40:50

except there are a lot of collectors.

0:40:500:40:53

I'm just going to pick one or two things

0:40:530:40:55

that are more valuable than the others.

0:40:550:40:57

The fact that the animals have got glass eyes is important -

0:40:570:41:00

and they have.

0:41:000:41:02

And the animals that you should look out for, if you can, is a gorilla,

0:41:020:41:06

-which I don't think you've got.

-No, I'm afraid not.

0:41:060:41:09

But you have got a hippopotamus and a giraffe, and that's very nice.

0:41:090:41:14

And my favourite is the crocodile, it's wonderful.

0:41:140:41:18

In good condition, as well.

0:41:180:41:20

Although they've been played with.

0:41:200:41:22

And the rarest thing for the Schoenhut circus

0:41:220:41:25

is the bisque-headed circus performer.

0:41:250:41:31

And you've got it. So let's put it this way.

0:41:310:41:34

With the whole ring and all these,

0:41:340:41:37

we are talking about between £3,000-4,000.

0:41:370:41:40

Wow. I didn't realise it was that much.

0:41:420:41:47

-I'll carry them home very carefully.

-Exactly, exactly.

0:41:470:41:50

Steven, do you mind if I...?

0:41:500:41:53

-I'm so sorry just to interrupt for a minute.

-We will get back to you.

0:41:530:41:57

-Now.

-OK.

-We have here an object brought in by Susie.

-Hello, Susie.

0:41:570:42:03

Hello.

0:42:030:42:04

Right... Oh, my God.

0:42:040:42:06

-Do you know what this is?

-Yes, I do.

0:42:060:42:10

Well, I know what I hope it is.

0:42:100:42:11

And what do you hope it is?

0:42:110:42:13

Well, it looks like the thing we asked for two years ago.

0:42:130:42:16

It's a Francis Bacon stool...

0:42:160:42:18

-There you are.

-..which I never...

0:42:180:42:21

I'm glad I'm sitting down.

0:42:210:42:23

-You can sit on that, if you like!

-No, I respect it too much.

0:42:230:42:26

You did this on purpose, didn't you?

0:42:260:42:28

Well, what do you think? Susie, tell Steven about it.

0:42:280:42:31

Well, my grandparents bought it from Francis Bacon in 1930.

0:42:310:42:35

He had a studio sale, I think it was advertised in The Studio magazine.

0:42:350:42:39

-Indeed.

-In August 1930.

0:42:390:42:41

They loved modern furniture and they went along and bought it

0:42:410:42:45

and it was my grandmother's dressing table stool.

0:42:450:42:48

So your grandmother...

0:42:480:42:50

Hang on, your grandmother just sat on a Francis Bacon stool, which...

0:42:500:42:54

Yes, and I use it as my desk stool now.

0:42:540:42:56

Well, it's certainly stood the test of time.

0:42:560:43:00

It has, it comes into school once a year and girls have a look at it.

0:43:000:43:05

It's something I never, ever thought I'd see.

0:43:050:43:08

But to... I'm sorry, I'm sort of...

0:43:080:43:10

Steven, I'm glad you're so excited, because when I saw it, I...

0:43:100:43:14

In the nicest way, Susie, I was slightly underwhelmed by it,

0:43:140:43:17

because it's so plain.

0:43:170:43:19

-Most people are.

-But you think this is an object of great beauty?

0:43:190:43:23

It's not necessarily an object of great beauty,

0:43:230:43:25

but it's an object of great art historical importance.

0:43:250:43:29

-Could you value this?

-Yes. £10,000-15,000.

0:43:290:43:32

CROWD GASPS

0:43:320:43:34

-You might not want to take it into school so often now.

-No, perhaps not.

0:43:340:43:37

-Susie, I think you should be sitting down for this.

-Yes, I will sit down.

0:43:370:43:40

Have a seat.

0:43:400:43:42

On the Antiques Roadshow, we see a lot of prints,

0:43:440:43:46

but they rarely see the light of day

0:43:460:43:49

because there were so many produced

0:43:490:43:52

over the last 500 years

0:43:520:43:54

and not often do they - unless they're more of a 20th century type -

0:43:540:43:58

really catch the eye of the art market.

0:43:580:44:01

And you've got a print here, signed with some very celebrated initials.

0:44:010:44:07

-Yes, of Durer. Yes.

-Albrecht Durer.

-Yes.

0:44:070:44:11

So let's start with how you actually ended up with this.

0:44:110:44:14

I inherited it from my father.

0:44:140:44:17

He had a great eye for art works, all kinds of art works,

0:44:170:44:21

and he bought it in 1971.

0:44:210:44:24

We see so many 19th century copies of Albrecht Durer,

0:44:240:44:28

he was one of the most important figures

0:44:280:44:31

in the history of art, in many ways.

0:44:310:44:33

But also, in the 19th century, the Victorian period,

0:44:330:44:37

he was particularly copied.

0:44:370:44:39

We see facsimiles all the time with the famous AD

0:44:390:44:42

banged there at the bottom of the image.

0:44:420:44:46

I'm going to return in a moment

0:44:460:44:47

as to whether or not this is a 19th century copy, or fake.

0:44:470:44:52

But just for a moment, let's talk about Albrecht Durer,

0:44:520:44:55

because he's one of those figures who's almost up there

0:44:550:44:57

-with someone like Leonardo.

-Yes.

0:44:570:45:00

And his particular contribution to the history of Western culture was

0:45:000:45:05

he knitted the Renaissance that was going on in Italy,

0:45:050:45:08

with all of those great artists there, with the North, with Germany.

0:45:080:45:12

He was born in Nuremburg

0:45:120:45:14

and active in the late 15th and early 16th century.

0:45:140:45:17

And so, he introduced ideas of beauty and realism and perspective

0:45:170:45:23

and amazed his German contemporaries.

0:45:230:45:26

And this print here is a beautiful example of just that,

0:45:260:45:30

because you've got, in that rather divine face of the virgin,

0:45:300:45:34

the look almost of a Botticelli.

0:45:340:45:37

And then, if you move your eye to the right,

0:45:370:45:39

you've got a sort of northern cuckoo clock-like building.

0:45:390:45:43

And you can't get a better example of how north and south are amalgamating.

0:45:430:45:51

And the image, which is a very devout, religious one,

0:45:510:45:54

with the Christ child on the virgin's lap, is full of detail.

0:45:540:46:00

And Durer loved all of that. His pictures were very instructive.

0:46:000:46:05

What is particularly noteworthy

0:46:050:46:07

is the monkey that's tethered at her feet.

0:46:070:46:10

The monkey represents base human qualities

0:46:100:46:15

in the iconography of this period -

0:46:150:46:19

everything that a human shouldn't be.

0:46:190:46:22

You know, naughty, malevolent, full of vice.

0:46:220:46:26

But the point is that it's tethered.

0:46:260:46:28

And so, it's a lovely, graphic example of female virtue,

0:46:280:46:33

in this case, divine female virtue,

0:46:330:46:36

being able to overcome monkeyish aspects and attributes.

0:46:360:46:40

And that's the sort of games he played.

0:46:400:46:42

So back to the artist, Albrecht Durer

0:46:420:46:45

and whether or not this is a 19th century example or an original.

0:46:450:46:51

Well, it's very difficult sometimes to determine with prints.

0:46:510:46:56

But this, to me,

0:46:560:46:58

has very specific attributes that tie it to its period.

0:46:580:47:03

And I have to say, from what I can see,

0:47:030:47:05

this is an original Albrecht Durer print.

0:47:050:47:11

-Now, it is a print.

-Yes.

-It's not an oil painting.

-No.

0:47:110:47:14

But it is nonetheless a very significant thing

0:47:140:47:17

because of his towering role

0:47:170:47:20

in the tying together of different culture currents

0:47:200:47:24

in the early Renaissance.

0:47:240:47:27

-So it comes to value.

-Yes.

0:47:280:47:32

Well, I have to say, subject to just a few checks,

0:47:320:47:37

given that prints are a complex area, and Durer in particular,

0:47:370:47:41

I think this could be worth up to about £20,000.

0:47:410:47:44

That's really good news.

0:47:450:47:46

That's really good news, thank you very much. Very exciting!

0:47:460:47:50

CROWD APPLAUD

0:47:500:47:53

Of all the things we've seen here today at Stowe, I think...

0:47:580:48:02

THIS has to be the most extraordinary.

0:48:020:48:07

It is the egg of the now-extinct elephant bird, native of Madagascar.

0:48:070:48:12

Became extinct in about the 17th century,

0:48:120:48:15

was, I think, the heaviest known bird, which it must have been!

0:48:150:48:19

I mean, how big must it have been to lay this?

0:48:190:48:21

Just makes my eyes water, just thinking about it.

0:48:210:48:25

Anyway, it's now in the science lab here at Stowe School

0:48:250:48:28

and has delighted boys and girls in the science lab

0:48:280:48:32

ever since it was brought along.

0:48:320:48:34

From the egg, and the Antiques Roadshow team,

0:48:340:48:37

until next time, bye-bye.

0:48:370:48:39

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