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Take a look at this! It's the most extraordinary water jug | 0:00:03 | 0:00:04 | |
in the shape of a ram. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
We're very lucky to have it here today, because it's 600 years old. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
It dates from the Middle Ages | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
and it tells us so much about the history of our location today. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
from Scarborough in North Yorkshire. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
You might think of Scarborough as a quiet, unassuming seaside town. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:08 | |
But in the late Middle Ages, this was a bustling, prosperous port. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Its bays were a safe haven for shipping | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
and trade was brisk at home and abroad. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
This led King Henry III to grant a royal charter in 1253, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
allowing a six-week-long festival | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
to be held here every year. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
And the world famous Scarborough Fair, a song, of course, was born. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
Trading restrictions were lifted. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
For 45 days, there was a free market for all goods. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
Every day at low tide, these sands would have been packed | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
with traders and merchants not just from Britain, but from abroad. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Places like Scandinavia and the Baltic States | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
selling everything from pickled herring, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
to ironwork, cloth, pottery. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
That green Scarborough jug is a rare survivor of tableware | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
made here and sold at the fair. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Today at the Spa Grand Hall, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
we've created a modern-day version of Scarborough Fair, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
with visitors bringing their treasures from far and wide. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Our ceramics team will be fighting over the chance | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
to look at the medieval water jug later. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
So we're looking at an object | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
which has got a connection with a character in your family? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
Indeed. My grandfather. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
The family joke is that he was responsible for the First World War. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:28 | |
Because everywhere he went, there was a major scrap. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
He was on the Somme, he was at Passchendaele, he was at Ypres. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
Yeah? And at one stage he was buried under a building for four days | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
and when they took him out, they made him mayor of the town! | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Mayor of the town? Indeed. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
We know which town it is, but we haven't been back yet, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
any of us, but we'd like to. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
You've probably got the keys to every pub in... | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Anyway! Well, he came back with shrapnel in his knee, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:59 | |
a liking for strong drink, and this scent bottle. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
That scent bottle. And that is what history we know. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
We know it came back with him when he was repatriated in 1918. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
Right. We don't know if it was new, whether it's French. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
He came back from France, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
but then so did most servicemen come back through France. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
Exactly. So where's it been lurking since he brought it back? | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
In a drawer. My grandma wouldn't have it in the house | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
and obviously he didn't part with it. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
He just tucked it away quietly in a drawer | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
and it's pretty much been there ever since. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
It begs the question why? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, I think just good old-fashioned reserve, if you like. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
Yorkshire reserve. OK. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
When you look at an object like this, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
the emphasis is in the stopper, isn't it? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
It is. And when you look at that stopper, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
it's beautifully moulded | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
with what appear to be sort of almost little ondines or mermaids | 0:03:57 | 0:04:03 | |
or ladies dancing away in... | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
They are. With a certain amount of abandon. Yes! | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
And the shape of it is so geometric, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
it's almost like a cog, isn't it? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
But I can understand, if I dare use the word, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Yorkshire prudery. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Indeed. Can I use that word? I would suggest so. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Because it's all in the dropper. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I'm going to just slowly take that out | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
and I'm going to lay that flat. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
And I'm going to look at that incredible stopper. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
Look at that dropper. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
And the idea being | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
that you would take that | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
and dab it behind your ears. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
You would. There is something rather sensual | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
about dabbing perfume behind your ears | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
with a lady in a certain state of undress. Absolutely. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
I wish I could tell you who made it. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
It's very much in the style of Rene Lalique. Yes. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
But there's no Lalique mark on there. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
The thing is, you say this came back in 1918. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
It's quite early. Most of these bottles | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
didn't materialise until the 1920s, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
so I'm learning something now. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
I'm learning that you know it came back then. Indeed. No question. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Let's put it like that. I'll feel a bit safer. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Would it have been new when he bought it? It would have been new | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
and it would have been made probably in France as well. Right. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
So I'm glad to know it's got that wonderful tradition. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
I'm glad to know exactly how the First World War actually started, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
and that your grandad was responsible! | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
And I'm glad to tell you that if you wanted to replace that today, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
you'd probably have to part with around about | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
the best part of 100 to ?150. Very nice. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
So it's got everything going for it, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
including a naked woman. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Fantastic. You can't ask for more than that. In a bottle. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
No. What more could you want? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
So tell me, who was Sam Pringle? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Sam Pringle was my great-great-uncle. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
He was born in 1881. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
According to the label on the back, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
he was out in the Far East in the 1880s, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
actually about the time this building was being erected. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Correct. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:13 | |
What was he doing out there? He was a guarantee engineer on ships. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
The guarantee engineer is the man | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
who accompanies a ship when it's being delivered. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Yes. These come from him? Yes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
He was in Nagasaki, saw the work being done out there, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
and sent home for English black silk | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and the drawings were drawn up by a draughtsman at Wall's End. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
They were sent out to Nagasaki and embroidered out there. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
How interesting. I'm interested because here we have silk images, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
a spectacular embroidery of a male lion | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
and a tiger confronting each other. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
If I'd seen these without the story you've given me, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
I would have said these were certainly Japanese | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
or possibly Chinese images. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
But the fact that you have a family history | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
which obviously seems to suggest something different, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
is very interesting, and I might have to change my view | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
on some of these things. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
What I can tell you is if you go to Shanghai today, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
you will see work like this being carried out. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
So I suspect that the workman - | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
workman or workwoman - | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
probably a woman, I would think, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
who actually embroidered these, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
was probably Chinese. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Yes. Because the rest of it, this beautiful frame, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
this paulownia wood frame, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
to me looks very, very Japanese. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
When you stand here and move ever so slightly, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
you see the fur as a three-dimensional entity. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
And if you look really closely, I mean the whiskers, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
the eyes, the eyelashes, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
you feel as if you could actually stroke the whole animal. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
The way the frame has been taken | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
so that the glass doesn't touch the embroidery | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
is the secret of why they're in such fantastic condition. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
So a real mixture. A European design sent out to Japan, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
worked by a Chinese, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
using thread brought back from England, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
Macclesfield, of course, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
was the great silk manufacturing part of England. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
I have to say I'm surprised because the Chinese | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
are not bad at embroidery themselves. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
And then brought back by this Englishman. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
They are fabulous things. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Um, difficult to put a value on. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
I would say that if you put these up for auction today, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
you would probably get somewhere in the region of two to ?3,000. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Yes. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Boxes are always fascinating. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
"What's in there?" But what have you been doing to this one? | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
It's so bashed. It came off a demolition site. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
We were demolishing a building in Ramsgate. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
It started off as a Victorian house, then it became a hotel, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
and then it had been a school at one point | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
and in its last incarnation, it had been a chapel. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
And we were knocking it all down and it came out the rubble. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
It was going in the skip. Gosh! | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
Into a skip? That's where it was going to go, yeah. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
It's interesting you should say a chapel. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Because when we get inside, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
we've got this absolutely fascinating | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
little silver, what looks like a book. It is silver, then? | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
Oh, it is silver. It will be silver. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Indicating there | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
that we've got some sort of continental aristocrat. Right. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
But of course when we then get in here, wow! | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
What it is, of course, is a reliquary. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
And in here we've got all these tiny, tiny fragments. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
They'll be bits of bone, bits of cloth. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Each from a particular saint. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Some of whom you'll never have heard of! | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
Others are actually quite important, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
particularly just there | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
we've actually got the Virgin Mary. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
Now that is Premier League, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
from the point of view of saints and relics! | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
They got a bit of the Virgin Mary. Exactly. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
And others, of course, all named. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
So absolutely wonderful. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
But on the back, clearly as a relic, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
we've got IHS, which, of course, is for Christ. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:18 | |
Date-wise, I would think we're looking into | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
the earlier part of the 19th century. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
OK. In fact, we've actually got here | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
the name of an Italian retailer. Yeah. Rome or something, yeah. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
So a fascinating little box. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
A reliquary, as it is. Right. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Value wise. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Now, the bad news is, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
that church pieces don't do very well. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
It had to be, didn't it? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
So that is the bad news. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
But I would have thought we might be looking at 300 to ?400. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
OK. On this one. It's interesting. I didn't know what it was. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
You bring these things here to find out what they are. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
My parents came to Scarborough on their honeymoon, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
probably encouraged by posters like this. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
It really was selling the image of the beach babe. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
You could see this as a young Diana Dors or Liz Taylor. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
What made you interested in these posters? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
I've been collecting posters for the last ten years | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
and they've all got their own individuality. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
The bathing belles, as we call them, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
are the most highly desirable of all the posters, really. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
Because it gives a picture of a sunny holiday by the sea. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
I don't think there were as many people on the beach today | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
as there were in these posters! | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Maybe no, no. That's right! | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
But it really was selling this. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
After the war, people were going on holidays, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
going to the seaside. Very exciting. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I suppose lots of men hoping to meet beautiful bathing belles like this! | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Possibly so. These posters date back from the '50s and into the '60s. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:10 | |
Butlin's, for example, just down the road at Filey, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
was Butlin's premier camp. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
And, of course, at the time, that was the place to go for a holiday. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
Oh, absolutely. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
It really does sell the idea of coming here | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
for your two weeks' holiday | 0:12:26 | 0:12:27 | |
when the mills closed in Scotland, or whatever, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
and you came to a really attractive place. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
And I notice even here | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
the bandstand. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Yes, the Sun Court Theatre, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
The Spa where we are even today, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
it's a fabulous poster is this one. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
Sweep of the South Bay, the Castle Headland, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
the girl in the candy-striped dress. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
And a look-alike Clark Gable! | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
This is all about coming to Scarborough for your holidays. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
But also the link with The Scarborough Flyer. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Yes, we're the premier holiday trains. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
This was a letterpress poster, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
giving the times of the train as it left King's Cross to Scarborough. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:09 | |
And you'd have seen these, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
of course, all over the stations up and down the country. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
I think they're a very glamorous way of advertising Scarborough | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
as a destination for your holidays. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
And, of course, in valuation terms, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
posters have gone up quite a lot. Indeed. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
I would say that some of these posters you're talking 400 to ?600. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
Yes, I think you're right in that bracket. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
This one slightly lower. About 200 for that one. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
So just looking at what we have here, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
this is going to be over ?2,500. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Yes, possibly so. I don't think we're a million miles adrift. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Any more at home? Yes, one or two at home. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
All the delights of Scarborough. It is indeed. Thank you. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
# Kiss me, honey, honey, kiss me | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
# Thrill me, honey, honey, thrill me | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
# Don't care even if I blow my top | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
# But honey, honey Uh-huh? | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
# Don't stop Never stop. # | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
So why did you bring me this locket today? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
What made you... Well, we live south of Birmingham. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
We've come up for a week's holiday | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
so I had to bring things that were small and that I could carry. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
It's something that I've always... | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
I inherited from my grandma's jewellery box. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
And I've always thought it was lovely and I've worn it quite a lot. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
It's very stylish. Did you think it was jet? Well, I wondered. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
And I hadn't, you know... It's similar. But it's too light. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
It is too light. It's a mourning jewel. And we know this | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
because the head is garlanded with black grapes, an emblem of death. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
So this is an object made to commemorate somebody else. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
The deceased's photograph would be inside, or a lock of hair. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
But we want to sweep all of that aside. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Right. And get really down to this. Whitby is very famous for jet. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
It's simply up the coast. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
The demand was so enormous for these things in the 19th century | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
that it couldn't be met by the material. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
So they went about making simulants of it, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
made of glass and I don't know what else - seal sometimes. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
But guess what your pendant is made of? I have no idea! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Rubber! Rubber?! | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
It's the first rubber jewel that I've done for the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
It's a simulated jet made of hardened rubber, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
rubber hardened with sulphur. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
And if you scratch it and smell it, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
you can actually smell the rubber coming from it. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
And you can scratch away when you get home! | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
But... Wow. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
I think it's stunning. It's a great piece of design. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
It's slightly dark and haunted to me | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
because the black grapes mean death. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Here's the head of a mourner, a Greek mourner. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
Neo-classical taste, all terribly exciting. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
And do you know what, it's hardly worth a thing. No. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
It might not be worth 30 or ?40. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
But it's loaded with interest to me. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
And you've brought me a rubber jewel from the 1860s, 1870s. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
I think I might know who that came from, then. My great-grandmother's. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It's stunning. I'm absolutely thrilled with it. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
It's beautiful. I think you should carry on wearing it. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
In the 1920s and '30s, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
the firm of Shelley rose to the top. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
And they had a marketing strategy | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
that actually said, "Fine as fine bone china can be." | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
And that was their marketing. And look at this. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
It's so exquisitely fine. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
And also glamorous. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
We actually call this period for them "the glamorous years". | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Tell me, how do you come to own such a wonderful example of their work? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I was given it by an elderly relative who'd gone into a home | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
for my 21st birthday. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Just a few years ago, obviously. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
You are kind! | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
So was your relative a stylish lady? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Yes. Her clothes, her interiors? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Yes. Can I ask, if it's not a rude question, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
was there a bit of money "in them thar hills"? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Yes. Well, that adds up | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
because these services were not only very beautiful, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
very elegant, very much of their era, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
but they were actually very expensive. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Shelley worked on this quality product. These were classy things. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Classy sets, elegant sets, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
for elegant and classy people. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
And what you're looking at is also in terms of the shape and style | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
it's the mode shape. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
Can you imagine you're going to invite your friends round | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
to drink out of conical cups with triangular handles | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
with a set decorated with abstract butterfly wings. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
I think she must have been making a bold statement. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I think so. The set was designed around 1930 | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
and the designer is a young man called Eric Slater. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Eric Slater joined Shelley to work alongside his father, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
the great Walter Slater. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Walter was a great designer as well. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
But Eric brought a little bit of pizzazz, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
a little bit of the jazz age, into the Shelley works. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
This period is really classed as their pinnacle. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Have you used it? No. Never? Never. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
I have visions of you lounging on your couch with your flapper outfit | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
with a cup of tea on the go! | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
I'm frightened to look at it, hardly! | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Oh, you mustn't be frightened to look at it. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
It's a glorious set, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
and in terms of Shelley of this period and of this pattern, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
the market's out there and it's still very, very strong. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
In all honesty, because you've got such a complete set, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
in such glorious condition, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
you're going to have to part with | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
something in the region of ?2,000 to replace it. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Right. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
But go on, use it! | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
I dare you! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
It belonged to Winston Churchill. Oh, really? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
He had it in his war room on his desk throughout the whole war. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Really? Yes. How does it come to be in your possession? | 0:18:56 | 0:19:01 | |
It was in my family. It was given to my great aunt | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
who read to Clementine, the wife of Churchill. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
Oh, I see. It was given to her by the daughter of Churchill | 0:19:08 | 0:19:14 | |
as a thank you. For reading to Clementine. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
So your great aunt... Yes. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
..read to Clementine when she lost her sight. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Yes. Why was she chosen to read to Clementine? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
She had a really nice voice. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
And this was given as a gift by... Lady Mary Soames... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
Read the letter to us. The daughter of Churchill. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
"I hope you will accept this small | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
"memento from among my mother's possessions. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
"I know how much she enjoyed your company | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
"and being read to by you. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
That's so sweet. "You made her weekends less lonely. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
"With my grateful thanks, Mary Soames." | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
And Mary Soames was Clementine's daughter. Yes. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
That is fantastic. So the fact it's so masculine | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
is obviously why it was his and not hers. Yes. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
Paperweights like this are from the late 1850s, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
just after the Crimean, depicting scenes from the war. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
Normally, a paperweight like this, pressed glass, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
transfer print, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
is worth about ?50, maybe, if you're lucky. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
But the Churchill connection, and with this letter of provenance, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
would probably make that worth ten times that. Wow. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
?500 a collector would happily give for that. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I love it. I love the story behind it all. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Thank you. Thanks for bringing it in. Thank you very much. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Ian, why are you so excited about a pair of old spoons, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
especially when one's got a hole in it! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
I'm so excited because these are about the earliest silver | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
we've ever had on the Roadshow. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Really? How old are they? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
This one about 1350. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
That one about 1300. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Goodness me! | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
That is the beginning of what's known as the early English type of spoon. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
And it's known from the top - see the little acorn there? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
It's an acorn knot spoon. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
That's the very first top you get on English spoons. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
And this one you get for the next couple of hundred years. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
That dies out about 1350. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
And that's a diamond point. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
That we think was modelled on a medieval pricked spur. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
A medieval pricked spur? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Imagine a knight with his armour and everything on, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
and a spur when he's on horseback. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
And if you look at it like that, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
that's exactly what a medieval spur is like at the end. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Amazing! | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
And to think that somebody was eating from these | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
all those hundreds of years ago. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
When you look at the shape of them, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
they don't hold an awful lot, do they? No. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
And particularly so on this one. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Because, of course, dental care wasn't good. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
And so they actually had a lot of gooey food! | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
So they deliberately ate gooey food | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
to spare their teeth because they couldn't chew very easily. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
It was the fact they'd lost their teeth, very often. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
Especially top end of society, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
because they were eating a much richer diet, sugar coming in, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
they were the only ones that could afford it. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
If these are the two oldest spoons, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
then, that you've seen on the Roadshow, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I'm assuming they're very valuable. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
The interesting thing is that actually, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
that one with no marks, and with a hole in it, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
its value is not going to be enormous. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
A thousand pounds. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Which in comparison to other spoons... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
This one, although it's a little more modern, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
is going to be more valuable | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
because it has something even more exciting - | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
which is one of the very earliest maker's marks ever recorded. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
Most of these, when you find them, have no marks at all. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
But there is the chap who actually made this spoon | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
in about 1350. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
I'm going to play devil's advocate, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
because I think there are people out there | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
who would say this bedroom suite is ugly! | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Why is it not ugly? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
I just love it because of the time period, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
because it's Art Deco, because it's from its era. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
It's class. It's classy. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
The lines, I just adore it. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
OK. Now you said Art Deco. Mm. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Actually what you've got here is something | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
that has those kind of lines, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
but it's actually a little bit later than that. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
It's quite a strange thing in many ways. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
It's made of aluminium. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Or it's got an aluminium skin on it. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
It comes from a period just post-war. Mm-hm. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
What is interesting about it is | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
I think it's a slightly unrecognised design classic. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
It was made by a company called Hunting Aviation. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
You know as well as I do, that during the war, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
there were a lot of companies | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
building aircraft for the war effort. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Hunting Aviation were one of those companies. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
So maybe it starts to come together. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Maybe we can look at this and see elements of aircraft design in it. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
Certainly the material we have. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Was there anything in that initially that attracted you to this? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
Well, only my war interest. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Yeah. Which is massive. Yeah. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
You're a collector of wartime memorabilia and things, are you? Yes. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
Where did you buy it from? Where did it come from? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
My ex-brother-in-law's in-laws. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
I don't know how it came about, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
but they offered me the chance to buy it. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
And I couldn't refuse. It's something you use now? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
My daughter does, not me. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Well, the company, Hunting Aviation, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
was started by a chap called Edgar Percival in 1933. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
He designed a lot of interesting transport aircraft, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
experimental jet aircraft, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
but post-war, when they didn't need any more aircraft, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
these companies were struggling. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
So they diversified. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
And this was the kind of stuff they diversified into. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
I don't think a lot of these ventures | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
were commercially successful for these companies. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
That was the problem. I've never seen or heard of it before. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
You won't see much of it around. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
It was, I think, too far ahead of its time in many respects. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
And it wasn't the most glamorous looking furniture. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Have you ever tried to find out more about the suite as such? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
Years ago, I can't remember when, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
I wrote to the Victoria and Albert Museum. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
And sent photographs. Yes. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
They asked if they could have the dressing table. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Did they offer you a price for it? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
Zilch! Zilch! OK. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
So they wanted you to donate it. OK. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
That's an interesting point. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Because the dressing table is the most desirable part of the suite, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
and for obvious reasons. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
It looks quite special. Yes. So... | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Value. What should the V have paid you for it? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Granted it might have been quite a long time ago. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Current auction prices on the dressing table tend to be | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
about 400 to ?600 at auction. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
I think it's undervalued. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
I think it's got a way to go. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
I was not willing to split what I thought | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
was perhaps the only complete set. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Yes. Because I've not seen anything or I've not heard anything. Yep. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
So I was really, for no monetary gain, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
I saw no reason to split what's a full bedroom set. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
A sensible move. Because actually, you don't see very much of it around. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Thank you. Pleasure. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
This is a lovely summer view of King's College, Cambridge. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
Did you go to King's College? No, I didn't. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
So how come you have it? I'm very lucky. It belonged to my grandmother | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
who went to a May Ball there, before her 21st birthday, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
and when it came to the time of her 21st birthday, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
her uncle invited her to go and visit him | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
and said that she could pick anything from his antiques shop | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
and she saw this and fell in love with it. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
And that's how it came to belong to me. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And I've loved it for ever! | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
She had very good taste. I suppose it reminded her of her May Ball. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
Exactly. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:28 | |
Let's look at the picture. It's quite architectural, isn't it? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Mm. In style. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
The reason being it's painted by an artist called Henry Rushbury, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
down here. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
Henry Rushbury, I've always liked him. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
I've known him more as an etcher | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
than being a watercolourist, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
although he did do watercolours, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
And you see lots of his etchings | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
and they sell for ?100, 150. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
And they're really good. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
But he was a draughtsman, etcher, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
watercolourist. A very clever man. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
And he was also the official, or one of the official, war artists | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
in World War I and World War II. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
OK. He was born in the 1880s. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Died in the 1960s. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
And he was even knighted in 1964. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
He was Sir Henry Rushbury. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
So he has a very good track record. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
But he's very overlooked today. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
But when you look at this beautiful study, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
here we've got a summer's day, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:19 | |
there are people out in the punts. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
The detail is incredible. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
If you look closely, you'll see a lot of pencil work. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
You can see this is the work of an etcher. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
The detail. But he's able to put it into watercolour. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
A very, very nice present | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
for your grandmother to have. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:35 | |
And what's it worth today? | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
Well, I think this is one of the nicest ones I've ever seen. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
As I said, he doesn't often come up in watercolour. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
I think that is worth at least 1,000 to ?1,500. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
Fantastic! | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
It's so special to me | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
that that's lovely, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
but it's so... Such a lovely memory of Granny, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
because she just loved it there | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
and had such a great time. Rather sweet. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
We've got a marvellous family of hippopotami, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
bathing in blue mud. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Where did you find it? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
It belonged to a friend. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
His great-uncle had it. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
His name was Henry Tonks. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
He bought it in London, probably about 1908, 1910. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
Was this Henry Tonks connected to the Slade? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Yes, he was Professor of Slade. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:29 | |
He did a lot of drawings for the War Ministry in the First World War | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
over in the trenches. I think it came from the South Bank Thames. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
An Arts Crafts pottery. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
It's marked on the bottom A H Gerrard. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Millbank. Millbank on the banks of the Thames. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
A H Gerrard was a known sculptor. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
He worked with people like Eric Gill. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
It is pottery, but it is a piece of sculpture. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
I love it. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:58 | |
They're almost emerging out of the mud | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
and it has an abstract quality to it. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
You've still got the lovely quality. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
Hippopotami are not blue. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
No. But somehow, it all works. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
There's something which encapsulates that sort of spirit | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
of the Art Deco movement. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
It has an abstract quality about it, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
but it's very naturalistic as well. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:18 | |
If this was to come to the saleroom, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
it's difficult to put a price on it | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
because there isn't a record for it. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
But as a decorative object alone, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
we'd be looking 600 to ?800. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Yeah. If we can establish some more about Gerrard, | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
it could be double that. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
It's priceless as far as the family's concerned. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Absolutely. So it doesn't matter. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
We all know who this is by, don't we, with the little mouse here? | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Robert Thomson. Of Kilburn. Kilburn. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
That's about an hour away from Scarborough, where we are today? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
Yes, something like that. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
Is this a piece you've had a long time? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
Yes, since about 1950. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
Something like that. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
And did you buy it from them? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Yes, my husband and I wanted Thompson furniture, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
so we built up things as we could afford them. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
What set you up on the Mouseman trail? | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
I think the first thing I had was two bookends, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
which friends gave me for my 21st birthday. And I still have them! | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
That's lovely. Those were the first. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
So that was out of the blue. Yes. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
And this gave you... This gave me... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
You're a Yorkshire lass, presumably? Yes, I am, yes. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
So this was bought new from him? Yes. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
Did you ever go to the factory? | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
The workshop, sorry. The workshop, yes. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
In those days, you could go round his workshop and see them working. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
This is post Second World War, late '40s, early '50s? Yes. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
How exciting! Did you ever meet him? | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Oh, yes! Mousie Thompson, he was called! Yes, indeed. Yes. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
Everything was ordered from him. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
And we would sometimes call to see him. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
And sit over the fire with him. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
And he'd be smoking his pipe. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
And the mantelpiece and everything was his own carving and things. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
So it's still there. You can see it now. It's a sort of showroom. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
And did you ever see the... Working them? Yes, yes. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Yes, the workmen would be adzing the top. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
And the adze, a man would stand... | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
The adze is like an axe on sideways. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
And they would sort of chip it like this. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Standing on the wood, literally chipping it away. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
What's so extraordinary about this | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
is that everybody looks at this and thinks, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
especially on the dining table, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
how unstable it is. But it's not. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:37 | |
I want to show you something here. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
It's so beautifully made. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
So this is a very wobbly, uneven surface, but it's not. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
No, it's not. It's a good surface, really. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
This is the whole point of it, is that you can, despite the look, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
put a glass on and not spill your wine or water on the table. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
You've done some spilling on this, haven't you? | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
Yes, I always have a vase of flowers, a bowl of flowers, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
and it gets a knock, or I water something and, um... | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
I'm afraid it's, yes... | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
The most dangerous thing. But it is wonderful oak. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
He always used English oak. Yes. All English oak. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
Quercus robur. Yes. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Matured for seven years before he used it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Did you ever see it in the street? They used to put it out. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
Big blocks of... Air dried. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
Outside in the high street, wasn't it? Yes. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
You saw that? Oh, yes. Wonderful! | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
They're probably still there! I wish I could have been in your pocket | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
to see it happening! Lovely! What's the ashtray doing? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
He actually gave it to me. I don't know whether it was an occasion | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
when we ordered something or paid for something. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
Or just went to see him. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
But he took it off the sideboard and gave it to me. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
A present. Isn't that sweet? Lovely. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
What lovely memories. Fantastic. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
So you have a whole suite of furniture. Yes. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
I have to give you some sort of value on this one. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
The auction prices of these are roughly what you can buy a new piece | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
from the Thompson workshops today. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:10 | |
You can order a similar piece like this. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
You don't get the lovely patination, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
and this wonderful personal history that you've got. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
Having met him. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
That makes it quite difficult to value. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Because if you went to the workshop today and ordered this, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
there are similar things in the catalogues for 6,500, ?6,600. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
So that's roughly the sort of price range. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
But the memories and the history you've got are absolutely wonderful. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
Yes. To have met him, I'm really jealous! | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Yes. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
We tend to always think | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
that the First World War was fought in the terrible muddy trenches | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
of Flanders and France. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
But these artefacts here tell us that on one occasion at least, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
that it came across the Channel to England's green and pleasant land. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
Can you tell me about these? Yes. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
I brought in a fragment from a naval bombardment of Scarborough, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
which took place on 16th December 1914. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:09 | |
The post office was hit, the lighthouse was hit, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
The Grand Hotel was hit. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
And many other domestic properties. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
So it was a very important part of Scarborough's history. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
And they went round the next bay to Hartlepool. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
They did. Hartlepool, Whitby and Scarborough. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
And these have been picked up by somebody walking in the street | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
thinking, "Thank goodness they've gone." And it's a sort of memento. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
That's been engraved with "Hartlepool" | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
and that's even posher with a nice silver plaque on it. Yes. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
Where did you get these from? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
This one came from the flea market in Pickering. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
And this one came from a car-boot sale, just recently. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
Just for a pound or two. That's really what they're worth. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Scrap metal, however interesting it may be, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
generally has fairly limited value. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
But I think their value lies in the social documentation | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
of when the civilian population | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
of this country realised that total war meant total war. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
Yes. Thank you. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
This is a bit of a find. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
It is, yes. And it was found in 1857? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
That's right. It was found on New Queen Street | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
and it was the site of Nesfields brewery | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
when they were digging out the foundations. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
So they were fond of drinking in that part of Scarborough? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Very much so, yes. What did they find, apart from this? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
They found the back end of an aquamanile as well | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
which is what this is. The hind quarters. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Aquamanile is a posh term for a water jug. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:47 | |
It's from the days before running hot and cold water. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
Yes. In the medieval period, in the 14th century, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
water would be brought to the table | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
in an aquamanile for you to wash your hands. | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
If you were someone of importance, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
you would have a fancy jug for that purpose. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
This is pretty fancy. It is, yes. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
It was fine tableware of its day. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
What are we talking, 12th, 13th century? Yes, roughly then. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
Now, why have you got this? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Well, much as I'd like to have it for myself, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
it actually belongs to Scarborough. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
It's part of Scarborough's heritage. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
It's from the museum just up the road. The Rotunda Museum. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
And, indeed, it's now called Scarborough ware. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
If you actually look at where the clay's exposed, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
it has this bright pinkish fabric. That's right. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
And that's how it's recognised, even in fragments. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
In my 26 years on the Roadshow, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
I have never seen anything of this calibre. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
This wonderful fleece. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
It's so gorgeous. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
He's done this by taking a knife or something very sharp | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
and just pushing the pottery up. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
Piece by piece by piece. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
You end up with this shaggy, woolly coat. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
It's a wonderful thing. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
I've wished for one of these to come in for years and years and years. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
Thank you very much to you and your museum. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
I'm not going to put a value on it | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
because museums, quite rightly, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
don't put valuations on their objects. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
But I need to put it in some sort of perspective. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
This reminds me of an 18th-century Barnstaple jug I recorded | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
at Bishop's Auckland some years back. A slipware jug. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
Same sort of, that wonderful informal pottery. Yes. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
This pre-industrial revolution stuff. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
An object that is 600 years younger than this. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
And on that, I put a valuation of 20 to ?30,000. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:45 | |
OK! | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
And this is much, much rarer. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
So two beautiful jewels from an era long gone. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
Did they come to you in your family? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
Yes, the brooch I inherited recently from my mother. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
And this is just generally a family piece. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
A family tiara! Yes. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
And also a necklace. We can turn it upside down, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
put a chain on it and turn it into a necklace. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And a family tiara. You probably wore it at your wedding? | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I did, and my mother did, and I think my grandmother did. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
Stunning, isn't it? What did it feel like? Was it amazing? | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
I was just nervous that it would fall off! Yes! | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
I can well understand that. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Everybody will be wondering how on earth that can become a tiara, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
but it's actually attached to what is called the frame | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
with these funny nuts and bolts at the top. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
These jewels were made to be versatile | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
because it's not only a tiara, but upside-down it's also a necklace. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
These are real pearls, and there's a very big distinction | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
between natural pearls and cultured pearls, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
which one sees more often today. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
They were extraordinarily valuable at the time this was made. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:20 | |
We can be assured this is an object of enormous importance | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
in design terms | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
and also in technique. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
It's enormously difficult to build up these settings in gold | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
and pierce them and open them up. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
This is, of course, made by hand. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
But the extreme irony of it is there's hardly a sign | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
of human activity on the surface. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
Because the pitch of craftsmanship is so shrill, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
that we think this thing has fallen out of heaven, really, | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
because we don't see any sign of human activity. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
Even the box, there's this wonderful sky blue velvet, | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
very fine velvet, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
lined with satin in a leather box, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
gold tooled. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
And so it's a very high pitch of luxury. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
It was worn by your grandmother, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
but I suspect there's one generation before that. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
How old do you think it is? | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
I think it's probably about 1890. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
That would make sense. It would be her mother. Yes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
And there are all kinds of amorous, subliminal messages | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
with the pearl for Venus and the diamond for ever. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
And so, too, with this one. Was that also hers? | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
That was definitely my mother's. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
I don't know whether it came from her mother or somewhere else. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
And you've worn that? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:30 | |
Only once. And what was that? Come on, tell us! | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
No just on a jacket because I felt I ought to wear it. Yes. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
It's completely stunning and it's a sort of mayfly. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
A mutant mayfly. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
He's so marvellous. Made of sapphires, diamonds and pearls. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
With ruby eyes. But actually, in a funny way, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
there's a chance that this is also a bee brooch. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
There's a sort of rebus for this as well. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Because it's "bee" sure, when you close it, of my love. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:59 | |
These things are very amorous. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Here are the stones and the pearls again. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
This was a language understood by the first recipient of that. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
And lost over time. Very strange. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
But goodness, they're wonderful, joyful things. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
I'd just be afraid of wearing that. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
Afraid of losing it, I suppose. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
I do see that. But another stratagem they used at the time, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
was to ask the lady's maid or the dresser | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
to stitch these onto the clothing. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
I don't have a lady's maid! You've let them go?! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
That's awful, really! | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
Anyway, you may have to stitch it on yourself, then! | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
But they did exactly that. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
So it would be pinned on and you won't lose it. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
You don't want to lose it because these are quite valuable objects. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
They're very desirable. In mint condition. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
And a curiously contemporary piece of jewellery. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
It's very easy to wear, it's ice white and beautiful. And diamonds. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:55 | |
And so somewhere, I suppose, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
close to ?10,000 for that. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
And then this one not too far away, either. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
So I'll say about the same thing for that. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
Eight to ?10,000. Gosh. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
My niece is the next one to wear this. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
She gets married in a couple of months. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Maybe she'll have to have a police escort or something! | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Roaring sirens, yes, exactly! I'm sure she'll be thrilled. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
With you watching, I think everything will be just fine. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you. Lovely. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
We've had such a wonderful day here in Scarborough by the seaside. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
So many people have come to see us with fascinating objects | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
and now as the day draws to a close, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
we need to think about finding one of these | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
to get off to our next venue. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
No rest for the wicked! Until next week, bye-bye! | 0:43:41 | 0:43:44 |