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In my time on the Roadshow, I have seen antiques

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brought along by all sorts of modes of transport.

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By boats, by bike, even by a dog pulling a cart.

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But never before like this.

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Ah-ha!

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Thank you very much.

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Brought by Flight Lieutenant Tim Bullimont there,

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all the way from the RAF Flying College in Cranwell.

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And this historic cup was handed out to pilots who came from all over

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the world to compete in an air race at the start of the 20th century.

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We'll make sure the right specialist sees this.

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Welcome back to RAF Marham, near King's Lynn, in Norfolk.

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Here at RAF Marham, there are three squadrons of Tornadoes

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which were originally formed back between 1912 and 1915.

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And this is one of the biggest RAF bases in the country.

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So before our visitors arrive, Major Walker here has very kindly

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agreed to give me a quick tour of the base.

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The Tornado has seen action in many conflicts - Kosovo,

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the Gulf, and Libya.

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I wouldn't say it's an antique,

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having been called into service in 1982.

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But it's certainly proved over the years why it's managed

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to stay on the front line for so long.

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To keep the Tornadoes in tiptop condition,

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they are brought to these 1930's hangars which have been

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transformed into 21st-century MOT testing stations.

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Each Tornado passes through four different hangars, like this one.

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Look, you can see them all around me with scaffolding around the jets.

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It's an amazing sight, isn't it?

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And it takes a staggering 120 days, or 14,000 man-hours,

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to give each one a full service, tune up and oil change.

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It's no wonder with all that TLC they have lasted this long.

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Each Tornado is microscopically examined before being updated

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with the latest technology, like the Raptor.

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This beams digital images of the ground back to base

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that help to identify targets.

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Like me, you've probably seen a lot of footage like that on the news.

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And to think, when these squadrons were formed,

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it was the era of photographic glass plates, developing solution

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and magnifying glasses.

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Well, I have to find an expert to take a look at this.

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We're so lucky to be here, because this is a frontline base with

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squadrons on classified operations.

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Not only are we fortunate to be here, but so are our visitors.

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Normally, they aren't allowed in.

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Oh, and don't forget, if you'd like to play along with

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our valuation game, press red on your remote control or go to...

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..on your smartphone or on your computer.

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Keeping in mind that we're all sort of bound by the

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Official Secrets Act, you've got to come clean with me today,

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-because I know for a fact you've arrived here in disguise.

-I have.

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-So tell me all.

-Well, I have come disguised...

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On my day off, I am a local priest of the Diocese of Ely,

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and I brought our Buddha.

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So, there's immediately something of a theological contradiction

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-going on here, isn't there?

-Well, it's a family piece.

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It's been in the family for 150 years, and we love it dearly.

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We think 150 years.

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Actually, I think you're bang on with that, quite frankly.

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How did it arrive in your family? That's what I am keen to know.

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Well, I first knew this when I was seven or eight

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when we visited an elderly relative.

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It was a bit like Pip going to see Miss Havisham.

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I was rather scared, but she had lots of lovely things,

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and I rather like this.

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The story was that one of our old salty seadog forebears brought it

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back from the Far East in the 1860's, probably, either from Siam or Burma.

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-But, apart from that, we don't really know anything for sure.

-Right.

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Well, the minute I saw it, the word "Burma" came to mind,

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but they invariably do tend to be described as Southeast Asian.

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And it is a Buddha in the truest sense of the word.

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If I can get technical, he's seated in dhyanasana

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on a double lotus throne with his hand in an earth-touching mudra.

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That's about as technical as it's going to get.

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The material itself, it looks like marble,

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but in actual fact, it's alabaster. It's a soft stone.

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I'm not going to scratch it, but I could do with my fingernail.

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Obviously missing a little bit of the thumb there.

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Just the idea of owning something...

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They are very contemplative, aren't they?

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I think it's fair to say that when it comes to Buddhism -

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without getting too technical - it's more of a philosophy than a faith.

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Oh, yes.

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So, I'm looking at something like this and I'm thinking,

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datewise, about 1850 or thereabouts.

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So that fits in with what you have to say.

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If I wanted to go and find something like this in a smart

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gallery in London, well, I think I would have to pull out

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my cheque book and write a cheque for around £800-£1000.

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Right, wow.

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For what it's worth, the good news is that, you know,

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if any burglar should consider removing this from your home,

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he'll have years and years of bad karma.

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And a bad back!

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That's very true.

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Well, in the sunlight, these birds on these gilded boughs

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look like they could literally fly off like these jets.

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But tell me, where do they come from in your history?

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From my great-great-grandmother, and that's all I know.

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-They've been passed down through the family line?

-Yes, yeah.

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Did they ever talk about where they'd come from, where they'd been?

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The only thing we know - we don't know if it's true or not -

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is that it came from the Crystal Palace Exhibition.

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-That's all we know.

-So there's talk of the Great 1851 Exhibition?

-Yes.

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I'm really sorry, I've got to shoot you down in flames. I'm a horror!

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The only reason I've got to shoot you down in flames is

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-because 1851 is impossible.

-Right.

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-The company that made these didn't even exist then.

-Right.

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-They actually came into being in 1857.

-Oh, right.

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Because they are made by a great Bohemian firm of Moser.

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And the firm was started by Ludwig Moser in 1857.

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So we are a few years on.

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The only exhibition, possibly, would your family have travelled to Paris?

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Not as far as I know, but who knows?

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Really, the exhibitions we'd think about when these were made

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were the great exhibitions of Paris at the end of the 19th century.

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Because we're looking at a date here of about 1890, 1900,

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that kind of date, when Moser, who originally started life making

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only cut and engraved glass, started to develop into far more decorative.

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And what we've got here are two beautiful rose amber vases,

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with these fantastic applied birds.

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And the tell-tale sign, a little signature, these little acorns.

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That for me, was as good as a signature that these are Moser.

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Now, they were a firm of great excellence,

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and they produced beautiful glass.

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This kind of decorated and relief-applied work became really

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popular at the end of the 19th century.

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These are slightly sparsely decorated.

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I have seen them where they are more profusely decorated, all over,

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top-to-toe.

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That said, usually, I only ever see them with acorns

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and acorn boughs, not birds.

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The birds are super-rare.

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Hmm!

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So, a pair in reasonably good condition, and rare,

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you're going to have to look somewhere in the region of...

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£2,000-£3,000.

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SHE GASPS Oh! I never...

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I never would've said that.

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That's lovely! SHE LAUGHS

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-Well, I would call him Mr Handsome, but what do you call him?

-Bear.

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That's his name, because that's what my aunt called him.

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-My great-aunt.

-And she gave him to you?

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Yes, he was handed down by mother to me, yes.

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-How lovely. Did you know your great-aunt?

-I did, yes, yes.

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My great-aunt, Gladys, she came from Clacton-on-Sea.

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She's probably seven or eight in this photograph

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and holding her bear, and on the date, it's dated September 1913.

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Well, that tells me something, but I think he's a bit older than that.

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-Really?

-I think he's much more likely to be 1907, 1908.

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He's got this button in his ear

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which is telling everybody that he's a Steiff.

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It isn't what the very early one...

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It's not the elephant, the embossed elephant, it's the later one,

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which is a Steiff embossed with an underscored last F underneath.

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But that started in 1908, 1907, thereabouts,

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and he's so typically early Steiff.

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And it was such an excitement to see, sitting in its bag,

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with you carrying him.

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-He's a very noble bear, because he's got a fantastic back hump.

-Right.

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He's got a wonderful snout, which has had a lot of kissing, I think.

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Yes! Probably, yes.

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And he's got these lovely boot button eyes,

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which know everything, see everything.

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He's just wonderful, and he would have had a growler, which has gone.

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-I don't think he's growling any more, is he?

-No, sadly not.

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A bear of this size and this age,

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in this condition...

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at auction...

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he would carry an estimate of between £4,000-£6,000.

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Oh, my goodness!

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Oh, that's made me feel quite tearful, actually. I don't know why.

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-Aw!

-Aw!

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-Yes, I can understand that.

-Yes.

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He won't be sold. SHE LAUGHS

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I always like to take notice

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when an artist is trying to tell you something.

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This very striking image of Nelson on his ship,

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looking out to sea,

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with these rather evocative historical-looking figures around

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him has, in the bottom right-hand corner,

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a few words for us.

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"Study for a picture. Arthur Twidle."

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But I need to ask you, with an album of images here,

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are we talking about the artist being related to you?

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The artist was the father of my great-aunt by marriage,

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and the picture has been in the family for many, many years.

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What interests me about this artist is his great claim to fame, and

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that is as one of the main artists who illustrated Sherlock Holmes.

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This is what we believe, yes.

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Of course, Sherlock Holmes has such cultural currency.

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He's such a celebrated figure.

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To be one of those artists who gave form to Conan Doyle's words

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is really quite a significant achievement.

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And here's a picture of Conan Doyle and his family leaving for America.

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Is there an American link at all with your ancestor in this picture?

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When I did some research, he illustrated the Sherlock Holmes

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books that were printed especially for America.

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So this would have particular pertinence from that point of view?

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Probably, yes.

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You know, looking at this picture, I think you can

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sort of tell that it's painted by an illustrator.

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There's so much information on it.

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There's always a trade-off with artists who illustrate things.

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It's a trade-off between conveying information in the text of a book

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and also balancing it with a picture that looks good.

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This is crammed with information.

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But I also think it's actually rather attractive.

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Have you worked out what's going on?

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We've always just known it as Nelson. We've always presumed this is Nelson.

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I don't really know who those figures are.

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Maybe it's Neptune coming out of the sea,

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but no, I don't really know at all.

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Well, I think that's certainly meant to pass for Nelson in the middle.

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A slightly craggy-looking Nelson, it ought to be said, with that nose.

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But in front of him, as he looks over the side of the ship,

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are a phalanx of ghostly figures.

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They look like naval heroes from the past.

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I mean, could that be King Canute, for example, the Viking king?

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Are these references to people like Raleigh or Drake?

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Is that a Pilgrim Father image here? I am not entirely sure.

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But this is so typical of an artist who can't resist

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putting in more information.

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This is a painting that's designed to be read.

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Now we come to the subject of value.

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Well, he's not a very famous artist in the sort of main currency

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of arts sense, but he does have the Conan Doyle association.

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So, on the back of that,

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-I would put a valuation of about £3,000 on it.

-Right.

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Thank you very much. It will stay in the family.

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This is such a delightful set of jewellery, and in a case.

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How did you come about it?

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My mother-in-law recently died, and we were sorting out her room,

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and we found a strongbox.

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When we opened it, we found family papers inside and some jewellery,

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and this box. When we opened it up, we thought, wow, you know,

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we'd really like to know what it is, really.

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I mean, we'd like to know, is it 1920's or, you know,

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what era it comes from?

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-Yeah. What makes you think it's 1920's?

-The tassels.

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It just reminds me of the Charleston.

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Yes, those wonderful flapper dresses and the long necklaces they wore,

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and the very sort of free style, wasn't it, during the 1920s?

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-Well, it's actually from round about 1860-1870.

-Oh, right!

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Yeah, it's a lovely Victorian set of jewellery

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which is known as a demi-parure.

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And a parure is a full set of jewellery which would include

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a brooch, a pair of earrings, as we have here,

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but then a necklace and also a bracelet.

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So a demi-parure is a part of a big set of jewellery.

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It brings out one of the really fun parts of Victorian jewellery

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and design, and that was the classical revival.

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It's got a lot of beadwork just around the edge and also ropework,

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which is inspired by these ancient Etruscan designs.

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There were a group of designers working in London in the 1860's

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and 1870's, and a couple of famous names like Castellani,

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Robert Phillips, and also Giuliano.

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Now, this isn't by any of those major designers, but obviously,

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due to the detail that we're looking at here,

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the designer and jeweller was looking at these makers

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and taking inspiration from their very good quality work as well.

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So, in the centre of each of the pieces,

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we've also got a lovely, delicate, but strong-coloured emerald

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surrounded by half pearls,

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which really give a softness to the very strong,

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yellow-coloured metal that it's set in.

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Did you have any idea about what the metal might be?

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I just thought it was gold plate,

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because I couldn't see any markings at all, any hallmarks.

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During the Victorian period, in England, we didn't have to

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hallmark jewellery if it was a precious metal such as gold.

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And this is gold. It's probably 15-carat gold, which is

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a nice gold to be working with during the period.

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Through it, they've created these very delicate tassels as well which

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do add that fun aspect to the piece of jewellery

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-and almost bring it alive, don't they?

-Yes, yes, they do.

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So, if it were to go up at auction, I think

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all the factors are going in its favour.

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A collector in a current market is going to pay

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somewhere between £600 and £800 for it.

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Wow. Wow. SHE LAUGHS

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Didn't expect that much, no!

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I am so excited by this moment, because, for a start, I am looking

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at the only object in Roadshow history

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that came in its own private jet.

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That's a pretty good start.

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Secondly, I am looking at something which is absolutely totally

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involved in the early history of military aviation.

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This is the Schneider Trophy.

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I must confess straightaway, I was confused when I heard about this,

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because I thought, "Schneider Cup, I know all about that."

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Seaplane races in the 1920s and '30s, Britain the outright winner,

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-Mitchell's S6B, father of the Spitfire, all that story.

-Yes.

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But, of course, it's not that.

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This is a much earlier story and much more important in a way.

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I know you're a squadron leader based here,

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so, obviously you're the perfect person to tell me all about it.

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Well, it was awarded to Bertram Dickson in 1910,

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and he won it in a race in France, in Tours, in fact,

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which it says on the front.

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He won it for achievement at distance in the air.

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Originally, Bertram Dickson had flown for the army,

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and the army had decided there was no future in flying

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and he left the army.

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Eventually, they said,

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"Well, just do us a demo on Salisbury Plain of what flying

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"can do for reconnaissance, etc." He got in his plane, and in the

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audience watching from the ground was Lord Kitchener and Winston Churchill.

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He said, "By Jove, there's something in this!"

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-And that's how it started.

-That's why we're here.

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-It all starts at that point.

-Absolutely.

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And those early years were filled with international competitions.

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They were about speed, they were about distance,

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they were about endurance, they were about all sorts of things.

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The Tours one - correct me if I am not right -

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this was about how long you could stay in the air.

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-Correct, yes, yes.

-And he won it.

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And is it fair to say he was the father of military aviation?

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I think so. Certainly, the Royal Air Force today very much looks at this

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trophy as, you know, it the father of aviation.

0:20:010:20:04

-So this is where it all starts?

-Indeed.

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How does it come to you?

0:20:060:20:07

It was flown in from RAF Cranwell,

0:20:070:20:10

-and the trophy was presented to RAF Cranwell in 1946.

-Right.

0:20:100:20:14

From there on in, it's been awarded at elementary flying

0:20:140:20:17

training at Cranwell for airmanship both in the air and on the ground.

0:20:170:20:21

-So it's about achievement?

-Indeed.

0:20:210:20:24

-So it goes to the best student of the year?

-Absolutely, absolutely.

0:20:240:20:28

-Did you get it?

-I'm not a flyer, unfortunately!

0:20:280:20:30

-Would you have liked to have won it?

-I'd have loved to have won it, yes.

0:20:300:20:34

I think, you know, it's rare for things to tell such

0:20:340:20:36

an important story.

0:20:360:20:38

You look at this and, obviously, this starts the Royal Flying Corps

0:20:380:20:43

which in April 1918 becomes the Royal Air Force.

0:20:430:20:47

We then go through all the campaigns from then to now

0:20:470:20:50

to where we are now, standing beside a Tornado.

0:20:500:20:53

And this has been there throughout that, in one form or another.

0:20:530:20:57

-Absolutely, yes.

-I think it's an amazing object.

0:20:570:21:00

It's quite... for pilots to actually hold this,

0:21:000:21:02

-with all its history, it is quite humbling.

-It is.

0:21:020:21:05

It's an amazing thing, it's quite breathtaking, actually.

0:21:050:21:08

Now, you know, conventionally,

0:21:080:21:10

we talk about the value of these things.

0:21:100:21:12

How does one value something which invented the RAF?

0:21:120:21:15

I know, I know,

0:21:150:21:16

it's certainly not been valued in our sort of lifetime and not recently.

0:21:160:21:20

Well, I can only value it from the point of view of similar

0:21:200:21:23

motoring, aviation cups that have come up for sale,

0:21:230:21:27

-and that takes us certainly to £100,000, £150,000.

-Right.

0:21:270:21:32

-But there is no parallel.

-No.

-And you're not going to sell it either?

0:21:320:21:35

-No. No, no.

-Not even in these days of economy?

-No! No, no.

-No.

0:21:350:21:40

But there is a huge demand for things that have such resonance,

0:21:400:21:43

such iconic status, and this is certainly one of the greatest.

0:21:430:21:46

-That's fabulous.

-It's a wonderful moment for me,

0:21:460:21:49

and let's hold it together. Here we are.

0:21:490:21:51

-We can both do it.

-OK!

-Wonderful. Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:21:510:21:55

I've just been shown this intriguing little book.

0:22:040:22:07

It's called Primitive Physick

0:22:070:22:10

or An Easy And Natural Method Of Curing Most Diseases.

0:22:100:22:14

And it's written in 1768.

0:22:140:22:16

And George III was on the throne in 1768, and of course famously,

0:22:160:22:19

he went mad. And when you look at some of the suggested cures here,

0:22:190:22:22

perhaps it's hardly surprising!

0:22:220:22:25

There's a cure here for something called canine appetite.

0:22:250:22:28

"If it be without vomiting, it is often cured by a small

0:22:280:22:31

"bit of bread dipped in wine and applied to the nostrils."

0:22:310:22:35

Or, down here, "To cure baldness, rub the part morning

0:22:350:22:42

-"and evening with onions until it is red."

-LAUGHTER

0:22:420:22:45

-Anyone round here to whom that might apply?!

-No!

0:22:450:22:49

And this is my favourite.

0:22:500:22:52

"Deafness, be electrified through the ear."

0:22:520:22:55

-Annie one fancy trying any of these?!

-Pardon?! LAUGHTER

0:22:550:23:00

For me, these pieces of furniture

0:23:050:23:08

have to represent the ideal Sunday afternoon.

0:23:080:23:11

You've had a long lunch,

0:23:110:23:13

you want to sit down, relax,

0:23:130:23:15

chill out on a very comfortable chair.

0:23:150:23:17

But it's a chair with a secret.

0:23:170:23:19

Pull open the side and you find there's a bar in each arm.

0:23:190:23:23

Please tell me you use it for that!

0:23:230:23:25

Yes, I do, and I have a lovely little lamp that goes over there

0:23:250:23:29

where you can rest a glass on as well.

0:23:290:23:31

I think for me, this sums up as well,

0:23:310:23:34

a lot of the essence of the gentlemen in the Metro Land.

0:23:340:23:36

If you think of the Metropolitan Line coming out of London,

0:23:360:23:39

all of those northwest boroughs, filling up with houses on these

0:23:390:23:43

enormous estates and people sort of living this wonderful, idyllic life.

0:23:430:23:47

You'd be in your garden, attending your roses with your wife, perhaps.

0:23:470:23:50

-Come indoors, sit down and mix a wonderful gin and tonic.

-Yes.

0:23:500:23:53

HE LAUGHS Absolutely right, yes.

0:23:530:23:55

So, what we're looking at are two pieces made during the 1920's,

0:23:550:23:58

probably the 1930's,

0:23:580:24:00

very strongly in the Art Deco style

0:24:000:24:01

with this geometric stepped form here.

0:24:010:24:03

But there's more to this table than meets the eye.

0:24:030:24:06

And there it is. Where on earth did you find them?

0:24:100:24:14

This one was in an auction.

0:24:140:24:15

This one was actually in an antique shop,

0:24:150:24:18

but it was in the back room and the lady who ran the antique shop

0:24:180:24:21

actually used to sit in it and I said, if you ever want to sell it,

0:24:210:24:24

please could I buy it, and then she eventually sold her shop

0:24:240:24:28

and came to me and said, did I want to buy the chair?

0:24:280:24:31

And of course, I snapped it up.

0:24:310:24:33

I can absolutely understand why. This would make a comfy seat.

0:24:330:24:36

Now, presumably, she recovered this?

0:24:360:24:38

She did, and I think it's a kind of African material that has been

0:24:380:24:41

chosen for that, strangely.

0:24:410:24:44

It's certainly not original, but it sort of matches the sort

0:24:440:24:46

of style that you would want to see on an Art Deco piece like this.

0:24:460:24:50

I'd imagine a very similar sort of colour

0:24:500:24:52

and very similar geometric type pattern.

0:24:520:24:53

Although it's not right, it sort of looks right.

0:24:530:24:56

-It gives a good impression, I suppose.

-Yes.

0:24:560:24:58

These sorts of pieces, ten, 15 years ago,

0:24:580:25:01

were being thrown out of auction houses. They simply weren't selling.

0:25:010:25:04

Nowadays, the situation is really quite different.

0:25:040:25:07

The Art Deco style is incredibly popular.

0:25:070:25:09

It fits with that sort of modern look,

0:25:090:25:11

clean-lined look that we've got.

0:25:110:25:13

And I could see in auction, that these two pieces, the chair,

0:25:130:25:18

I would have thought around £300-£500.

0:25:180:25:22

-And I think the table, around £400-£600.

-OK.

0:25:220:25:27

-Yeah. Very good.

-Does that please you?

-Yes, it does. That was £100.

0:25:270:25:31

-And that was £300.

-So, you've done well already then?

-Yes, thank you!

0:25:310:25:35

-LAUGHTER

-What's your favourite cocktail by the way?

0:25:350:25:38

-It is gin and tonic.

-Gin and tonic?

-Yes.

-Excellent.

0:25:380:25:40

-Well, you can have a double when you get back!

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:25:400:25:45

Do you call it a tablecloth?

0:26:080:26:11

It was called a tablecloth when it was given to us.

0:26:110:26:15

The story was, that this was worked by Irish nuns

0:26:150:26:20

and presented to the Queen Mother.

0:26:200:26:23

And I understand that from time to time, the Queen Mother used to give

0:26:230:26:28

presents that she had received

0:26:280:26:31

to one of her charities and that's what happened.

0:26:310:26:34

-It's so white!

-Well, it wasn't white when it was purchased.

0:26:340:26:38

It was quite grubby.

0:26:380:26:41

And in fact, the couple who owned it put it in a bath of hot water

0:26:410:26:46

-and trod on it as though you were pressing grapes.

-Trampled it?!

0:26:460:26:50

-Trampled it.

-In a bath?!

-In a bath, yes.

0:26:500:26:52

And then spent a long time teasing out all of the little bits

0:26:520:26:56

and pieces, because they were all flattened.

0:26:560:26:59

And then, they had it mounted on this frame.

0:26:590:27:03

And that is again, in a big picture frame.

0:27:030:27:06

-So you have it as a picture at home?

-Yes.

-And do you love it?

-I love it.

0:27:060:27:10

Every time I visited them, I walked past it and it was in a hall

0:27:100:27:14

and I used to stop and admire it

0:27:140:27:17

and always find something new.

0:27:170:27:20

And we were at their house once when they were moving

0:27:200:27:23

and getting rid of a lot of things and having things valued,

0:27:230:27:27

and the valuer came through and said that he just didn't know what

0:27:270:27:31

to value it at, because he had never seen anything like it.

0:27:310:27:35

And I said to our friend, well, I think

0:27:350:27:37

-it should go in a museum because it is so unique.

-As a collection?

0:27:370:27:40

Yes. And he said, well it's not going in a museum because they have

0:27:400:27:44

lots of things they put in a cellar and you never see it again.

0:27:440:27:48

He said, I know what I'm doing with it,

0:27:480:27:50

and he said, I'd like you to take that home, because you

0:27:500:27:52

love it, you've got daughters that love nice things and you've got

0:27:520:27:56

granddaughters, and I would like it to be passed down your family!

0:27:560:27:59

Well, isn't that fantastic?!

0:27:590:28:01

We still seem to find new things, every time we look at it.

0:28:010:28:05

Well, I think this dates probably from between 1900 and 1910,

0:28:050:28:09

and in fact, you can't call it a tablecloth,

0:28:090:28:12

and it's not a quilt or a bedspread,

0:28:120:28:14

but what I think that this is, if we can think of it,

0:28:140:28:18

it's like a sampler.

0:28:180:28:20

I think that the overall impression of this is just, wow!

0:28:200:28:25

Can you imagine how long it would have taken?

0:28:250:28:28

And I think very often, when these things are done,

0:28:280:28:31

and I think this is a display piece, it is

0:28:310:28:34

to show, like a sampler, your craftsmanship, your excellence, and

0:28:340:28:39

in fact, the glory of this is that it's got this 3D quality.

0:28:390:28:43

-It's so lifelike. Right down to these little wisps of corn.

-Yes.

0:28:430:28:49

It's a tour de force.

0:28:490:28:52

Beauty is not always represented by pounds, shillings and pence.

0:28:520:28:57

In this instance, we can say it's glorious. Its value - £300.

0:28:570:29:03

-It's not valuable.

-No.

0:29:030:29:05

But it's fantastic and I'm so pleased to have seen it. Thank you.

0:29:050:29:08

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

0:29:080:29:11

Standing here, you've got the perfect accessory for a Roadshow.

0:29:130:29:17

I mean, is it a family piece?

0:29:170:29:19

Yes, it's been in my family for many years.

0:29:190:29:21

I think, probably goes further than my great-grandfather.

0:29:210:29:25

A member of the family went to Australia or came back

0:29:250:29:28

from Australia and carved it and that's as much as I know.

0:29:280:29:31

-Onboard ship?

-Yes.

-Yes. I mean, that may be...

0:29:310:29:34

This is where provenance really comes in.

0:29:340:29:37

..that may be true, but that,

0:29:370:29:39

unless you can prove that, is going to be lost in history, really.

0:29:390:29:43

It IS made onboard ship.

0:29:430:29:45

I mean these would have been whaling ships,

0:29:450:29:47

where the most abundant resource would be whalebone. And teeth.

0:29:470:29:51

And you can see, typically here, for whalebone,

0:29:510:29:54

you've got this black flecking in there.

0:29:540:29:57

But it's such a lovely piece of carving.

0:29:570:30:00

You almost wonder what travels this would have been on.

0:30:000:30:03

I mean, you would have spent hours onboard ship, day after day,

0:30:030:30:07

sitting there with not much to do.

0:30:070:30:09

If you were on a whaling ship, this is the sort of thing you would do.

0:30:090:30:12

Sit there and carve this to bring home.

0:30:120:30:14

It would date from 1860, 1870, that sort of date.

0:30:140:30:19

-I mean, is it something you like?

-I absolutely love it.

0:30:190:30:23

Yeah, there is something so charming about this type.

0:30:230:30:25

It really is a form of artwork in itself.

0:30:250:30:28

It's a real shame that it isn't dated, or with the name of a ship.

0:30:280:30:32

I mean, that's quite rare in itself, but if it was dated, it would

0:30:320:30:35

be even more sort of interesting. And value wise,

0:30:350:30:40

around £1,500.

0:30:400:30:42

Goodness me!

0:30:420:30:45

Wow!

0:30:450:30:46

-My mother would love to know that!

-You look like you need

0:30:470:30:50

something to lean on, so I'll give you that back. Thank you very much.

0:30:500:30:53

-Thank you so much.

-I love this sort of artwork, so thank you very much

0:30:530:30:56

-for bringing it in.

-Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you.

0:30:560:30:59

Well, it looks as though a tornado ripped through this little

0:31:080:31:12

scene here. Tell me about this Chinese hut.

0:31:120:31:16

We think it's a theatre.

0:31:160:31:18

My grandfather brought it back from China, many, many years ago.

0:31:180:31:22

He was involved in the pottery business and ran a pottery

0:31:220:31:26

and he just saw it and I think in glazes, particularly,

0:31:260:31:29

because the company that he worked with,

0:31:290:31:31

particularly his own grandfather, father and grandfather, I think

0:31:310:31:35

were very interested in glazes.

0:31:350:31:36

Yeah. Well, I can see that absolutely appealing.

0:31:360:31:40

And what you have here is actually

0:31:400:31:42

a piece of theatre, quite literally.

0:31:420:31:44

This is a classic Chinese Theatre,

0:31:440:31:46

as you see in all of the great cities in China today.

0:31:460:31:50

Sadly, it's a piece of theatre where several of our players have

0:31:500:31:55

exited and you can see where they were, because there are little holes

0:31:550:32:00

in the stage where these figures would have popped in, like so.

0:32:000:32:04

And this table, standing at the back, which is

0:32:040:32:08

a permanent fixture, it's a part of the actual permanent stage

0:32:080:32:11

feature, has holes itself, and this is actually an alter table.

0:32:110:32:16

And it would have had a classic set of incense burners and

0:32:160:32:19

candlesticks, as you see on Chinese Buddhistic altars to this day.

0:32:190:32:23

But the fact that these figures are detachable suggest that it was, you

0:32:230:32:27

know, something that you could develop or you could play with.

0:32:270:32:31

Every large domestic dwelling in China

0:32:310:32:34

has a traditional three-courtyard construction

0:32:340:32:38

and very often has a temple-like theatre, like this.

0:32:380:32:43

So this is a glimpse of China. So these two little survivors

0:32:430:32:47

at the front, they're obviously engaged in a conversation.

0:32:470:32:50

Usually it was something to do with money or marriage.

0:32:500:32:53

But it's beautifully observed piece of ceramic construction.

0:32:530:32:58

Made in Guangdong, a southern province of China.

0:32:580:33:02

Date is late 19th-century or even early 20th.

0:33:020:33:08

And I'm slightly sort of foxed by this trough at the front.

0:33:080:33:12

Because on one side, we've got a dragon whose tail disappears

0:33:120:33:16

going through here and then it reappears coming out here.

0:33:160:33:20

And on my side, we've got a large carp, and if you look at them,

0:33:200:33:23

they've got a little hole in each and I had a jolly good

0:33:230:33:26

look inside to see how this works, because these are little fountains.

0:33:260:33:30

So this is an ornamental Chinese stoneware theatre,

0:33:300:33:35

which would have had a little fountain playing.

0:33:350:33:38

I mean, one is tempted to compare it with some of the Indian

0:33:380:33:42

restaurants one goes into today,

0:33:420:33:44

which have these tasteful little shrines of Buddhas, etc.

0:33:440:33:49

Certainly, these were expected to play as fountains.

0:33:490:33:52

It's really lovely. I feel quite jealous of that.

0:33:520:33:55

I think that's a great thing to have.

0:33:550:33:57

Difficult to put a value on a souvenir.

0:33:580:34:01

Probably, if you put it up for auction, it would

0:34:010:34:06

-fetch getting on for £1,000, maybe a little more.

-Yes.

0:34:060:34:11

Good, thank you very much indeed.

0:34:110:34:14

Anyone might be forgiven for thinking those were egg cups

0:34:140:34:17

or goodness knows what,

0:34:170:34:18

-but I understand, you probably realise they're napkin rings.

-Yes.

0:34:180:34:22

Have you any idea who the initials are?

0:34:220:34:25

The smaller of the two is my grandfather's.

0:34:250:34:28

It was given to him on his 21st birthday.

0:34:280:34:30

It was made by Omar Ramsden,

0:34:300:34:34

who had his studio just around the corner

0:34:340:34:36

from my great-grandfather's art studio.

0:34:360:34:38

-Really?

-In Fulham.

-Did they know each other?

-I believe they did, yes.

0:34:380:34:43

The larger of the two was given to my grandmother

0:34:430:34:46

-when my grandmother and grandfather got married in 1920.

-How fantastic.

0:34:460:34:51

The reason I picked them out is actually because these two

0:34:510:34:55

napkin rings tell a very interesting story of the period.

0:34:550:34:58

They are, the first one anyway, is made by Ramsden and Carr,

0:34:580:35:03

who were a firm of silversmiths working around the corner

0:35:030:35:06

-from your great-grandfather.

-Yes.

-The second one,

0:35:060:35:09

although more or less identical, is made by Alwyn Carr on his own.

0:35:090:35:13

And there is a very good reason why Alwyn Carr

0:35:130:35:15

is making it on his own.

0:35:150:35:18

It's because during the First World War, Omar Ramsden

0:35:180:35:22

stayed at home and Alwyn Carr went off to fight with the Artist Rifles,

0:35:220:35:26

who later became the SAS, in fact, but they weren't at the time.

0:35:260:35:29

And when he came back, he found that Omar Ramsden didn't need him

0:35:290:35:32

any more and so they went their separate ways.

0:35:320:35:35

You may have noticed that the hallmark on the slightly

0:35:350:35:39

older one was made in 1908 by Ramsden and Carr,

0:35:390:35:42

-but we've got this napkin ring which is 1920...

-Yes.

0:35:420:35:47

..which has got Alwyn Carr's mark solo,

0:35:470:35:50

demonstrating not only had the partnership well

0:35:500:35:53

and truly dissolved, but that Alwyn Carr carried on using

0:35:530:35:56

his own designs after he had ceased to be in business with Omar Ramsden.

0:35:560:36:00

Yes.

0:36:000:36:01

You may also like to know that small

0:36:010:36:04

and napkin ring-like as they are, they are quite collectable.

0:36:040:36:07

-That's good to know.

-Yes.

0:36:070:36:10

Alwyn Carr and Omar Ramsden both are big collectors areas,

0:36:100:36:13

and those two napkin rings would cost you about £400 each

0:36:130:36:17

if you went to a shop to try and buy them.

0:36:170:36:19

My goodness. They're our 25th wedding anniversary

0:36:190:36:22

present from Tom's dad.

0:36:220:36:24

-That's a very generous present!

-They're not going anywhere.

0:36:240:36:27

-Mind you, with a family connection, they need to stay put.

-They do.

0:36:270:36:30

-Absolutely.

-Staying in the family.

-Thank you very much.

0:36:300:36:33

Thank you very much, thank you. That's great.

0:36:330:36:35

Like most small boys, I had an interest in aeroplanes

0:36:380:36:42

and I made small, plastic ones, I graduated to three,

0:36:420:36:47

four-foot wingspan flying models that never got quite to this stage.

0:36:470:36:52

What took you here?

0:36:520:36:55

Well, my school was underneath the runway at RAF Sculthorpe in the '50s.

0:36:550:37:01

When Americans were here in force, flying over our school,

0:37:010:37:04

we had to stop lessons. I used to run and look out the windows

0:37:040:37:08

and I thought, this is for me. I'll build model planes.

0:37:080:37:12

Starting off with the small ones and it went from there,

0:37:120:37:16

and my father objected to it, because he was in the Navy

0:37:160:37:19

and the more he objected, the more I built the aeroplanes.

0:37:190:37:22

And I've been building them for 65 years.

0:37:220:37:24

But what you see here today with the lorry

0:37:240:37:27

and this one, is the last 42 years.

0:37:270:37:30

-42 years?

-Yes.

-How many planes in the lorry there?

-25.

0:37:300:37:34

We had a quick glance at them, no detail,

0:37:340:37:37

but they all look as remarkable as this one.

0:37:370:37:39

But this is the biggest, isn't it?

0:37:390:37:40

-This is the biggest and probably the last.

-How big is it?

0:37:400:37:44

That's a sixth scale.

0:37:440:37:45

And most people who don't know about aeroplanes

0:37:450:37:48

might be mistaken in thinking this is a Lancaster,

0:37:480:37:50

because that is the classic four-engine World War II bomber,

0:37:500:37:53

-but it isn't, is it?

-It's a Stirling

0:37:530:37:56

and Stirlings operated from here in 1942, where we are today.

0:37:560:38:01

-Are there any of these still flying?

-No.

0:38:010:38:03

-There's just the one Lancaster and none of these.

-That's correct.

0:38:030:38:07

Em...this is not a free flight model, is it?

0:38:070:38:12

It's on a tethered line, round and round on 120-foot steel wires.

0:38:120:38:16

-But it actually flies?

-They all fly, yes.

0:38:160:38:19

How long did it take you to build?

0:38:190:38:21

6,550 hours, spread over 15 years.

0:38:210:38:26

And are you interested in value?

0:38:260:38:29

I would like to know a value because one or two museums

0:38:290:38:32

in Europe and here are on the phone.

0:38:320:38:35

Right, if somebody really wants this, if it goes to a museum,

0:38:350:38:39

a static display of aircraft and it fills a niche,

0:38:390:38:43

it's got to be somewhere in the region of £10,000, in that area.

0:38:430:38:49

-Would you agree?

-Thank you very much.

0:38:490:38:51

Would you shoot me down at that?

0:38:510:38:53

No, I wouldn't dream of shooting you down. Thank you.

0:38:530:38:56

Well, we're here today in this beautiful sunshine

0:39:230:39:25

and you've brought this amazing necklace and locket here.

0:39:250:39:28

There's a photograph of a lady and a gentleman inside,

0:39:280:39:32

looking very pleased with themselves,

0:39:320:39:34

but also there seems to be some family resemblance. Who are they?

0:39:340:39:37

It's my grandmother and my grandfather on my mother's side.

0:39:370:39:41

And then if we look on the reverse...

0:39:410:39:44

..there's an inscription with a date around it.

0:39:460:39:49

The date on the back of the locket was their wedding day in 1908.

0:39:490:39:53

Oh, wonderful. And where would he have got this from?

0:39:530:39:55

He's actually made it himself.

0:39:550:39:58

He was an artist and oil painter and he also made jewellery

0:39:580:40:02

and taught jewellery, both at the art school in Barrow-in-Furness

0:40:020:40:09

and also as principal of Harrogate Art College.

0:40:090:40:12

Gosh, what an amazing husband to have,

0:40:120:40:14

someone who could actually make jewellery and obviously

0:40:140:40:17

appreciated all the arts and gave his wife such a fabulous present.

0:40:170:40:20

It's very typical of the Arts and Crafts movement

0:40:200:40:23

that was at its height roundabout this period

0:40:230:40:27

and it's interesting that he was based

0:40:270:40:29

up in Barrow because, of course,

0:40:290:40:31

we have the Keswick School Of Industrial Art in that area as well

0:40:310:40:34

and it was down to these schools of art

0:40:340:40:37

where these artists flourished

0:40:370:40:40

and took forward the principles of the Arts and Crafts movement.

0:40:400:40:44

He's used beautiful mabe pearls here,

0:40:440:40:46

which are slightly misshapen, but have a lovely lustre to them.

0:40:460:40:49

He's also used these delightful cabochon-cut sapphires,

0:40:490:40:53

which if I just pull the chain up a little bit,

0:40:530:40:55

we can really appreciate the lovely, delicate blue colour,

0:40:550:40:59

which through the cut, which has got a flat back and a domed surface,

0:40:590:41:03

has helped to intensify the colour

0:41:030:41:05

and he's also use that similar cut on the chrysoprase,

0:41:050:41:09

which we have here, which is a form of hard stone,

0:41:090:41:11

which not really many people appreciate today,

0:41:110:41:14

but was used extensively in Art Nouveau jewellery.

0:41:140:41:17

And the Arts and Crafts movement was about getting back to these

0:41:170:41:20

basics of handcrafted jewellery.

0:41:200:41:23

Now, sadly, a lot of the guilds

0:41:230:41:24

which were set up in local villages and homes,

0:41:240:41:27

where people were working together,

0:41:270:41:29

didn't succeed and a lot of them went out of business,

0:41:290:41:32

but those that did succeed,

0:41:320:41:34

such of the School Of Industrial Art in Keswick

0:41:340:41:36

and the Guild Of Handicrafts,

0:41:360:41:37

produced some amazing pieces of jewellery

0:41:370:41:39

and I think your grandfather was probably looking at

0:41:390:41:42

some of the key designers, such as Arthur Gaskin,

0:41:420:41:45

who was producing very similar examples of jewellery like this.

0:41:450:41:49

-Do you remember your grandfather?

-Yes, very much so.

0:41:490:41:51

-He taught me to draw.

-Wonderful.

0:41:510:41:53

And I've carried on doing quite a lot of artistic things since then.

0:41:530:41:57

Fantastic.

0:41:570:41:58

Well, it's great that you appreciate it as a work of art

0:41:580:42:01

and not just a piece of jewellery and, naturally,

0:42:010:42:03

I'm sure it's going to stay in the family for a very long time

0:42:030:42:06

and won't be sold, but if it did come on the open market,

0:42:060:42:10

because of the interest in Arts and Crafts jewellery,

0:42:100:42:12

particularly at the moment, I think it would fetch

0:42:120:42:15

somewhere between £1,500 and £2,000.

0:42:150:42:17

-Really?

-Yes.

-Oh, wow! I had no idea. Thank you.

-It's my pleasure.

0:42:210:42:26

I'm sure you're even more proud of your grandfather now.

0:42:260:42:29

-Yes! Thank you very much.

-Thank YOU very much.

0:42:290:42:31

This is such an unusual thing because it's unfinished.

0:42:340:42:38

Where did it come from?

0:42:380:42:40

My father bought it when he was 15 and it cost ten shillings.

0:42:400:42:44

He saw it in an antique shop in Sussex

0:42:440:42:46

and that's all I know about it.

0:42:460:42:48

That's a pretty unusual thing for a 15-year-old boy to buy.

0:42:480:42:51

He's always loved antiques, but yes, it's quite a feminine object.

0:42:510:42:55

It certainly is.

0:42:550:42:57

There is this wonderful doll-like lady sitting here,

0:42:570:43:01

in very opulent 17th-century dress

0:43:010:43:05

and I love all of these birds and insects -

0:43:050:43:09

moths, caterpillars, ladybirds.

0:43:090:43:13

I wonder why it wasn't finished.

0:43:130:43:16

Would it have been a wealthy person? Would she have got ill?

0:43:160:43:21

Died?

0:43:210:43:22

LAUGHTER

0:43:220:43:24

I don't know!

0:43:240:43:25

Well, I think there is a chance that whoever made this did die.

0:43:250:43:30

I mean, why else would something this beautiful

0:43:300:43:33

with such expensive materials be left unfinished?

0:43:330:43:37

But I also have another theory

0:43:370:43:39

and that is this mark that is running down the side of it.

0:43:390:43:43

Do you see here?

0:43:430:43:46

I wonder if the girl or lady who was stitching this

0:43:460:43:51

spilled something on it and possibly got into awful trouble.

0:43:510:43:56

If it was a young girl, she wouldn't have started out

0:43:560:44:00

working on satin and working in satin stitch with silk thread.

0:44:000:44:05

She would almost inevitably have started working on samplers,

0:44:050:44:09

which would have been on a linen ground

0:44:090:44:11

and so she would have worked her way up to this.

0:44:110:44:14

And to then leave it unfinished

0:44:140:44:18

is sort of almost inconceivable,

0:44:180:44:20

but it's one of those things that remains unknown.

0:44:200:44:23

It is so revealing, isn't it, because it's unfinished?

0:44:230:44:27

I have read about silk embroidered pictures being worked like this,

0:44:270:44:31

but I've never actually seen one on its frame.

0:44:310:44:34

-Do you have any idea of its date?

-No, not at all.

0:44:340:44:38

Well, it's definitely 17th-century and I would date it at around 1660.

0:44:380:44:45

What would it have been for?

0:44:450:44:47

It may well just have been as a small picture

0:44:470:44:50

to be framed and put on the wall,

0:44:500:44:52

but equally, you see a lot of boxes decorated in this way,

0:44:520:44:56

so it could have been the top of a box

0:44:560:44:58

and maybe there would have been then other sections

0:44:580:45:01

that the lady would have worked to make up the sides to it.

0:45:010:45:04

And that's really the beauty of it, that it's on this beech frame,

0:45:040:45:08

with the pegs holding the joints in place and I have to say,

0:45:080:45:14

I have never seen one in an unfinished state

0:45:140:45:17

on the frame that it was worked on around, what, 350 years ago.

0:45:170:45:23

-Very old.

-But I still think it's worth

0:45:230:45:26

-around £1,500.

-Wow!

0:45:260:45:30

That's a lot of money.

0:45:310:45:33

Take a look at this postcard.

0:45:330:45:35

It doesn't look anything out of the ordinary. It's to a Miss Cooper

0:45:350:45:38

near Leicester and it says,

0:45:380:45:40

"Dear Mary, does this surprise you? Of course, I couldn't stand aside.

0:45:400:45:45

"I hope our meeting is only deferred.

0:45:450:45:47

"Hope you are well, will write again later.

0:45:470:45:50

"Lots of love, yours affectionately, Tom."

0:45:500:45:52

It's only when you see the date, 1914,

0:45:520:45:56

that you realise that what Tom is telling Mary

0:45:560:46:00

is that he couldn't stand aside from the call to take up arms

0:46:000:46:03

on behalf of the country in the First World War.

0:46:030:46:07

Who knows if their meeting was just deferred or whether, in fact,

0:46:070:46:10

it ever happened?

0:46:100:46:12

We don't know if they ever met again or indeed if Mary ever married.

0:46:120:46:16

Of course, so many women of that generation never did marry.

0:46:160:46:20

So something rather ordinary,

0:46:200:46:22

once you look at it a bit more closely, becomes rather poignant.

0:46:220:46:26

Well, it's not that unusual on the Roadshow

0:46:300:46:33

for us to see horn beakers like this one here

0:46:330:46:35

and quite often they have a silver plaque on the front,

0:46:350:46:38

commemorating perhaps, a family event

0:46:380:46:40

or someone's retirement from work,

0:46:400:46:42

but when I read the inscription on your plaque,

0:46:420:46:44

I knew it was a bit special. So how long have you had this beaker?

0:46:440:46:48

-It's been in the family.

-So you inherited it?

-Yes, yes.

-OK.

0:46:480:46:52

Well, let's have a look at the inscription,

0:46:520:46:54

and we can see that it reads,

0:46:540:46:56

"Manufactured from the horn of an ox,

0:46:560:46:59

"roasted whole at the opening of

0:46:590:47:01

"the London and Southampton Railway, May 11, 1840."

0:47:010:47:06

And if we turn it round, we can see on the back,

0:47:060:47:10

there's a wonderful silver plaque with an engraving

0:47:100:47:14

of an early train, looking pretty much like Stephenson's Rocket.

0:47:140:47:19

And, of course, the date, 1840, in terms of railways, is pretty early.

0:47:190:47:24

Did your family have any connections with the railway or not?

0:47:240:47:28

Yes, I believe my adoptive mother's great-grandfather was

0:47:280:47:32

the person who put the money into...

0:47:320:47:34

-Into the railways?

-Yes.

0:47:340:47:36

Yes, well, obviously there was a great excitement

0:47:360:47:39

and I had never heard of the ox roast at the opening

0:47:390:47:43

of the London to Southampton Railway,

0:47:430:47:44

so I think railway historians could be very interested

0:47:440:47:48

by this particular beaker

0:47:480:47:49

and certainly, if this came up for auction,

0:47:490:47:52

-I could easily see it fetching £1,000, £1,500.

-Right.

0:47:520:47:57

Possibly a lot more because I've never seen anything like it before,

0:47:570:48:00

-it's a unique piece, so we'd just have to see.

-I'd better clean it!

0:48:000:48:04

I think a bit of silver polish might not go amiss!

0:48:040:48:06

-Thank you for bringing it in.

-You're very welcome.

0:48:060:48:09

Now, are you a fan of Madonna or Lady Gaga by any chance?

0:48:090:48:13

-Neither, particularly.

-Well, there we are.

0:48:130:48:17

The reason I mention it is that both of them would be fans of this.

0:48:170:48:21

-Oh, right.

-And that's important. We'll get to that bit later on.

0:48:210:48:25

It's a glass crucifix. Where did you find it?

0:48:250:48:28

I found it at a street fair in northern France about ten years ago.

0:48:280:48:32

-And did you pay a lot of money for it?

-Very little. Under £50.

0:48:320:48:37

-So little you couldn't remember.

-No.

0:48:370:48:40

Well, it's signed on the side, Rene Lalique,

0:48:400:48:43

the famous French glass designer and it's a great example of his work.

0:48:430:48:47

Also, this great chrome base is very Art Deco

0:48:470:48:51

and Lalique is best when he's in the Art Deco period,

0:48:510:48:55

so this is what the collectors are looking for.

0:48:550:48:57

And the reason I mentioned Madonna and Lady Gaga is because,

0:48:570:49:00

generally, religious stuff turns people off, but this is very stylish

0:49:000:49:05

and because the likes of Madonna and Lady Gaga...

0:49:050:49:09

Cher is a great collector of religious stuff as well,

0:49:090:49:11

so this has crossover appeal and because of its crossover appeal,

0:49:110:49:15

it's going to be worth more than the £50 or so you paid for it.

0:49:150:49:19

I think if that was in the right auction,

0:49:190:49:22

someone like Madonna or Cher or even Lady Gaga

0:49:220:49:24

-might pay £1,000 for it.

-Really?

0:49:240:49:27

-Yep.

-That was quite a good return on my francs then.

0:49:270:49:30

A very good return. Your prayers have been answered!

0:49:300:49:33

-You're a member of the Pugin family, aren't you?

-Yes, I am.

0:49:430:49:46

It's an extraordinary story. Where do you fit in, just remind me?

0:49:460:49:50

Well, I'm the great-great-grandson. My father, Michael Pugin Purcell,

0:49:500:49:56

was an accountant,

0:49:560:49:58

but his father, Charles, was an architect in Liverpool.

0:49:580:50:02

He finished... Pugin & Pugin finished in 1958 when he died.

0:50:020:50:05

So he carried on the family business in effect,

0:50:050:50:07

although it wasn't a family business, but yes.

0:50:070:50:09

I mean, Pugin has always been THE most intriguing man.

0:50:090:50:12

One ends up in life with heroes, groups of them,

0:50:120:50:15

and he certainly became one of mine. His achievements are so astonishing.

0:50:150:50:19

I mean, we haven't time to go through it now, but he was

0:50:190:50:22

one of THE great designers of the 19th century,

0:50:220:50:25

and really, in many ways, the founder of modern Britain,

0:50:250:50:28

in the way we live and the way we look today.

0:50:280:50:30

If I just say the Palace of Westminster,

0:50:300:50:32

the Houses of Parliament, I think people get the idea.

0:50:320:50:35

You know, he was creator of modern Gothic.

0:50:350:50:38

What always intrigued me about him

0:50:380:50:41

was his private life, his personal life.

0:50:410:50:43

He was married several times, he had many children

0:50:430:50:46

and his last wife, Jane, was always somehow an intriguing figure.

0:50:460:50:51

I mean, you must have been much more drawn into it than I,

0:50:510:50:53

but she was much younger than him

0:50:530:50:55

-and, I think, she survived him by over 50 years.

-That's right.

0:50:550:50:58

She was married for four years and then a widow for 57 years

0:50:580:51:01

-and she buried both her children.

-So an astonishing thing.

0:51:010:51:04

And what intrigues me most of all

0:51:040:51:07

is seeing here, a photograph of her I have never seen before.

0:51:070:51:11

Well, it could have been an engagement present in about 1847.

0:51:110:51:15

Yes, it's an early daguerreotype. It fits in with that period.

0:51:150:51:19

The dress she is wearing and the jewellery is not designed by him

0:51:190:51:23

and, in most later photographs, she's wearing his jewellery.

0:51:230:51:25

It's when she's called a truly Gothic woman.

0:51:250:51:28

I know and I've always loved that statement.

0:51:280:51:30

"At last," he says, "I have a truly Gothic woman."

0:51:300:51:33

I spent the last 20 years wondering,

0:51:330:51:35

what is a truly Gothic woman and none the nearer knowing!

0:51:350:51:38

Well, she brought up the grandchildren

0:51:380:51:40

and also promoted local charities and the St Augustine School.

0:51:400:51:44

That's right, she was a great woman, but there she is

0:51:440:51:47

and I'm sure this is a picture no-one has ever seen before.

0:51:470:51:50

We've got her here again, obviously much older,

0:51:500:51:53

-with two of her grandchildren.

-That's Charles.

-That's him?

0:51:530:51:57

Yes, and Mary, who married a Mr Riddell.

0:51:570:52:00

Right, so there is a direct link here between her and him?

0:52:000:52:03

-That's right.

-And, of course, Pugin's house,

0:52:030:52:05

The Grange in Ramsgate in Kent, survives.

0:52:050:52:09

It's owned now by the Landmark Trust,

0:52:090:52:11

it's been restored very much to his time

0:52:110:52:13

and seeing that, with this immensely complicated,

0:52:130:52:17

colourful and dynamic design, shows how people lived.

0:52:170:52:20

And, of course,

0:52:200:52:22

he designed most of the things as well as the decoration

0:52:220:52:24

for that house, which takes us really onto here,

0:52:240:52:27

because this is a fairly conventional

0:52:270:52:30

Gothic-revival candlestick.

0:52:300:52:33

You think, "Well, nothing special about it,"

0:52:330:52:35

until you look there and this is Pugin's personal badge,

0:52:350:52:39

en avant, his motto, with that strange bird.

0:52:390:52:42

-A little martlet.

-Martlet bird, yes.

0:52:420:52:44

-And it's marked on here. He had this.

-In his house.

0:52:440:52:48

It was in his house, he designed it, it was made by Hardman,

0:52:480:52:51

but that doesn't really matter. What matters is I can imagine him

0:52:510:52:54

-walking around the house carrying this. Can you?

-Yes

0:52:540:52:57

and he used to look out to sea if ships were in danger

0:52:570:53:00

-and want to help them.

-Well, he was a great sailor, too.

0:53:000:53:03

But the fact that this comes from that house

0:53:030:53:06

is like, sort of touching history really.

0:53:060:53:08

Of course, because he's such an important figure, I mean,

0:53:080:53:12

these are family photographs, wonderful visions of their life

0:53:120:53:15

and, of course the life that went on after his death in 1852.

0:53:150:53:18

This is a tangible object.

0:53:180:53:20

Now, if we looked at this, as I say, mid-Victorian,

0:53:200:53:23

late-Victorian candlestick, it would have been one of a pair...

0:53:230:53:27

Without the badge, I'd see those in a shop

0:53:270:53:29

and I'd think, "£150 a pair, nothing special."

0:53:290:53:32

Turn that round...

0:53:320:53:34

..and suddenly it's something different.

0:53:350:53:38

You know, that on its own must be at least £1,000

0:53:380:53:41

and if you had the pair, much, much more,

0:53:410:53:44

because it's HIS thing and that's what makes things different.

0:53:440:53:48

Once you've put the person back into the object,

0:53:480:53:50

it's a completely different story.

0:53:500:53:52

Now, of course,

0:53:520:53:53

I haven't actually thought about the value of Jane's photograph.

0:53:530:53:56

I mean, it's a very early daguerreotype.

0:53:560:53:59

It's in very good condition, it's unfaded.

0:53:590:54:01

If we just take it as a photograph without any connections,

0:54:010:54:05

it's between £50 and £100, possibly more, just because of what it is.

0:54:050:54:11

A hitherto unknown photograph of Jane Knill, Pugin's wife and widow,

0:54:110:54:17

I think goes towards £500

0:54:170:54:21

because it's a wonderful image of her and one otherwise unseen.

0:54:210:54:25

It is beautiful and even the hairstyle

0:54:250:54:27

makes you think of early Victorian.

0:54:270:54:29

Well, as you say, it's 1847. It's a fantastic object, as well.

0:54:290:54:32

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

0:54:320:54:33

Well, here's a brooch gleaming in the sunshine

0:54:330:54:36

and I rather want to know how it is with you.

0:54:360:54:39

-Was it given to you?

-Yes, it was.

-And who gave it to you?

0:54:390:54:42

-My husband.

-That's very good, isn't it?

0:54:420:54:45

Jewellery-buying husbands are almost an extinct species. They're...

0:54:450:54:48

But this is a most beautifully chosen one

0:54:480:54:51

and I think it's got a very interesting subliminal message,

0:54:510:54:55

which is only secondary to what I'm going to

0:54:550:54:57

tell you next, actually.

0:54:570:54:59

In fact, it signifies forever luck in love.

0:54:590:55:01

He's a horseshoe for luck, the diamonds are forever

0:55:010:55:05

and a little sprig of mistletoe,

0:55:050:55:08

a little amatory significance there, so forever luck in love,

0:55:080:55:11

but from your husband and how often does he buy you bits of jewellery?

0:55:110:55:14

Every now and again I get a little surprise.

0:55:140:55:17

-For your anniversary and for your birthday?

-No, just out of the blue.

0:55:170:55:20

Out of the blue!

0:55:200:55:21

And he buys that as a complete surprise to you,

0:55:210:55:24

-you'd never seen it before?

-No.

-Astounding.

0:55:240:55:26

I had a little look at it earlier and, on the back,

0:55:260:55:29

there's a series of hallmarks and they are significant

0:55:290:55:33

to what I'm going to tell you next.

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Well, this is a sequence of hallmarks that not only tells me

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that this brooch is made in Russia in 1900,

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but there's also a hallmark there that tells me

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that this is made by the most famous goldsmith that ever lived.

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This is a brooch by Carl Faberge.

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Lovely.

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And it says 56 because there are 56 parts of pure gold in the alloy

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and it's made for the immediate circle

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of the Emperor and Empress of Russia.

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They were avid shoppers at Faberge and they bought

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exactly this sort of thing to give away

0:56:080:56:11

and in this case, it's made of gold

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and decorated with this very interesting orange-coloured enamel

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and diamonds and it's a sentimental thing

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and it did that job for somebody,

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perhaps in the circle of Nicholas and Alexandra,

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but it did that job for you, as well, didn't?

0:56:260:56:29

-Yes.

-Amazing, really. Can't believe it's happened.

0:56:290:56:33

Can't believe it's happened to me, actually,

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because it's a wonderful voyage of discovery

0:56:360:56:38

and these sort of brooches,

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not only because of their amatory significance,

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but because of the context and the excitement of the maker,

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have been offered at auction and they have fetched as much as,

0:56:460:56:52

-well, £10,000.

-Really?!

0:56:520:56:55

No! It can't be!

0:56:550:56:58

I can't see any reason why this wouldn't fetch that, actually.

0:56:580:57:01

-Really?

-Yes. And you have a gem of a jewel,

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-but apparently a gem of a husband as well.

-Yeah, lucky day, isn't it?

0:57:050:57:08

Yes, you are a lucky girl, no questions at all.

0:57:080:57:12

-Thank you so much.

-Wonderful, lovely.

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Look at this poster.

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It's for an air display commemorating the Battle of Britain.

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1947, flying trips, grand air pageant, mock air attack,

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the whole works.

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And it took place here at Royal Air Force Marham all those years ago

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and a visitor brought it along today and has very kindly

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donated it to the personnel here at the base,

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so David Cooper, you're the base commander.

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Where are you going to put it?

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It's an extremely generous donation from the public.

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I can only think it will have to go in station headquarters

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and take pride of place there.

0:57:460:57:47

Sounds just right. Well, from the Antiques Roadshow here at RAF Marham

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and all the RAF personnel who've helped us so generously

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and all those Tornadoes that kept going overhead,

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until next week, bye-bye.

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