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In my time on the Roadshow, I have seen antiques | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
brought along by all sorts of modes of transport. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
By boats, by bike, even by a dog pulling a cart. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
But never before like this. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Ah-ha! | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
Brought by Flight Lieutenant Tim Bullimont there, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
all the way from the RAF Flying College in Cranwell. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
And this historic cup was handed out to pilots who came from all over | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
the world to compete in an air race at the start of the 20th century. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
We'll make sure the right specialist sees this. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
Welcome back to RAF Marham, near King's Lynn, in Norfolk. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
Here at RAF Marham, there are three squadrons of Tornadoes | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
which were originally formed back between 1912 and 1915. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
And this is one of the biggest RAF bases in the country. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
So before our visitors arrive, Major Walker here has very kindly | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
agreed to give me a quick tour of the base. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
The Tornado has seen action in many conflicts - Kosovo, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
the Gulf, and Libya. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
I wouldn't say it's an antique, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
having been called into service in 1982. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
But it's certainly proved over the years why it's managed | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
to stay on the front line for so long. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
To keep the Tornadoes in tiptop condition, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
they are brought to these 1930's hangars which have been | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
transformed into 21st-century MOT testing stations. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Each Tornado passes through four different hangars, like this one. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
Look, you can see them all around me with scaffolding around the jets. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
It's an amazing sight, isn't it? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
And it takes a staggering 120 days, or 14,000 man-hours, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
to give each one a full service, tune up and oil change. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
It's no wonder with all that TLC they have lasted this long. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Each Tornado is microscopically examined before being updated | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
with the latest technology, like the Raptor. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
This beams digital images of the ground back to base | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
that help to identify targets. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Like me, you've probably seen a lot of footage like that on the news. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
And to think, when these squadrons were formed, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
it was the era of photographic glass plates, developing solution | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
and magnifying glasses. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Well, I have to find an expert to take a look at this. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
We're so lucky to be here, because this is a frontline base with | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
squadrons on classified operations. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Not only are we fortunate to be here, but so are our visitors. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Normally, they aren't allowed in. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Oh, and don't forget, if you'd like to play along with | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
our valuation game, press red on your remote control or go to... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
..on your smartphone or on your computer. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Keeping in mind that we're all sort of bound by the | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Official Secrets Act, you've got to come clean with me today, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
-because I know for a fact you've arrived here in disguise. -I have. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
-So tell me all. -Well, I have come disguised... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
On my day off, I am a local priest of the Diocese of Ely, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
and I brought our Buddha. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
So, there's immediately something of a theological contradiction | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-going on here, isn't there? -Well, it's a family piece. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It's been in the family for 150 years, and we love it dearly. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
We think 150 years. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
Actually, I think you're bang on with that, quite frankly. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
How did it arrive in your family? That's what I am keen to know. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Well, I first knew this when I was seven or eight | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
when we visited an elderly relative. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
It was a bit like Pip going to see Miss Havisham. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
I was rather scared, but she had lots of lovely things, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
and I rather like this. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
The story was that one of our old salty seadog forebears brought it | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
back from the Far East in the 1860's, probably, either from Siam or Burma. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:07 | |
-But, apart from that, we don't really know anything for sure. -Right. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Well, the minute I saw it, the word "Burma" came to mind, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
but they invariably do tend to be described as Southeast Asian. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
And it is a Buddha in the truest sense of the word. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
If I can get technical, he's seated in dhyanasana | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
on a double lotus throne with his hand in an earth-touching mudra. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
That's about as technical as it's going to get. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
The material itself, it looks like marble, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
but in actual fact, it's alabaster. It's a soft stone. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I'm not going to scratch it, but I could do with my fingernail. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Obviously missing a little bit of the thumb there. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
Just the idea of owning something... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
They are very contemplative, aren't they? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
I think it's fair to say that when it comes to Buddhism - | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
without getting too technical - it's more of a philosophy than a faith. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
So, I'm looking at something like this and I'm thinking, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
datewise, about 1850 or thereabouts. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
So that fits in with what you have to say. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
If I wanted to go and find something like this in a smart | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
gallery in London, well, I think I would have to pull out | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
my cheque book and write a cheque for around £800-£1000. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
Right, wow. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
For what it's worth, the good news is that, you know, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
if any burglar should consider removing this from your home, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
he'll have years and years of bad karma. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
And a bad back! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
That's very true. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Well, in the sunlight, these birds on these gilded boughs | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
look like they could literally fly off like these jets. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
But tell me, where do they come from in your history? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
From my great-great-grandmother, and that's all I know. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
-They've been passed down through the family line? -Yes, yeah. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Did they ever talk about where they'd come from, where they'd been? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
The only thing we know - we don't know if it's true or not - | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
is that it came from the Crystal Palace Exhibition. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
-That's all we know. -So there's talk of the Great 1851 Exhibition? -Yes. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:22 | |
I'm really sorry, I've got to shoot you down in flames. I'm a horror! | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
The only reason I've got to shoot you down in flames is | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-because 1851 is impossible. -Right. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
-The company that made these didn't even exist then. -Right. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
-They actually came into being in 1857. -Oh, right. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Because they are made by a great Bohemian firm of Moser. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:46 | |
And the firm was started by Ludwig Moser in 1857. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
So we are a few years on. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
The only exhibition, possibly, would your family have travelled to Paris? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
Not as far as I know, but who knows? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Really, the exhibitions we'd think about when these were made | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
were the great exhibitions of Paris at the end of the 19th century. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
Because we're looking at a date here of about 1890, 1900, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
that kind of date, when Moser, who originally started life making | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
only cut and engraved glass, started to develop into far more decorative. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
And what we've got here are two beautiful rose amber vases, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
with these fantastic applied birds. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
And the tell-tale sign, a little signature, these little acorns. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
That for me, was as good as a signature that these are Moser. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
Now, they were a firm of great excellence, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
and they produced beautiful glass. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
This kind of decorated and relief-applied work became really | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
popular at the end of the 19th century. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
These are slightly sparsely decorated. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I have seen them where they are more profusely decorated, all over, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
top-to-toe. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
That said, usually, I only ever see them with acorns | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and acorn boughs, not birds. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
The birds are super-rare. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Hmm! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
So, a pair in reasonably good condition, and rare, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:17 | |
you're going to have to look somewhere in the region of... | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
£2,000-£3,000. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
SHE GASPS Oh! I never... | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
I never would've said that. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
That's lovely! SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-Well, I would call him Mr Handsome, but what do you call him? -Bear. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
That's his name, because that's what my aunt called him. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
-My great-aunt. -And she gave him to you? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Yes, he was handed down by mother to me, yes. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-How lovely. Did you know your great-aunt? -I did, yes, yes. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
My great-aunt, Gladys, she came from Clacton-on-Sea. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
She's probably seven or eight in this photograph | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
and holding her bear, and on the date, it's dated September 1913. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
Well, that tells me something, but I think he's a bit older than that. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
-Really? -I think he's much more likely to be 1907, 1908. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
He's got this button in his ear | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
which is telling everybody that he's a Steiff. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
It isn't what the very early one... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
It's not the elephant, the embossed elephant, it's the later one, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
which is a Steiff embossed with an underscored last F underneath. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
But that started in 1908, 1907, thereabouts, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
and he's so typically early Steiff. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
And it was such an excitement to see, sitting in its bag, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
with you carrying him. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
-He's a very noble bear, because he's got a fantastic back hump. -Right. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
He's got a wonderful snout, which has had a lot of kissing, I think. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
Yes! Probably, yes. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
And he's got these lovely boot button eyes, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
which know everything, see everything. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
He's just wonderful, and he would have had a growler, which has gone. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-I don't think he's growling any more, is he? -No, sadly not. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
A bear of this size and this age, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:24 | |
in this condition... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
at auction... | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
he would carry an estimate of between £4,000-£6,000. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Oh, that's made me feel quite tearful, actually. I don't know why. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
-Aw! -Aw! | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-Yes, I can understand that. -Yes. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
He won't be sold. SHE LAUGHS | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
I always like to take notice | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
when an artist is trying to tell you something. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
This very striking image of Nelson on his ship, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
looking out to sea, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
with these rather evocative historical-looking figures around | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
him has, in the bottom right-hand corner, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
a few words for us. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
"Study for a picture. Arthur Twidle." | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
But I need to ask you, with an album of images here, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
are we talking about the artist being related to you? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
The artist was the father of my great-aunt by marriage, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
and the picture has been in the family for many, many years. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
What interests me about this artist is his great claim to fame, and | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
that is as one of the main artists who illustrated Sherlock Holmes. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
This is what we believe, yes. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Of course, Sherlock Holmes has such cultural currency. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
He's such a celebrated figure. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
To be one of those artists who gave form to Conan Doyle's words | 0:12:50 | 0:12:56 | |
is really quite a significant achievement. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
And here's a picture of Conan Doyle and his family leaving for America. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
Is there an American link at all with your ancestor in this picture? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
When I did some research, he illustrated the Sherlock Holmes | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
books that were printed especially for America. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
So this would have particular pertinence from that point of view? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
Probably, yes. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
You know, looking at this picture, I think you can | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
sort of tell that it's painted by an illustrator. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
There's so much information on it. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
There's always a trade-off with artists who illustrate things. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
It's a trade-off between conveying information in the text of a book | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
and also balancing it with a picture that looks good. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
This is crammed with information. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
But I also think it's actually rather attractive. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Have you worked out what's going on? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
We've always just known it as Nelson. We've always presumed this is Nelson. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
I don't really know who those figures are. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Maybe it's Neptune coming out of the sea, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
but no, I don't really know at all. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Well, I think that's certainly meant to pass for Nelson in the middle. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
A slightly craggy-looking Nelson, it ought to be said, with that nose. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
But in front of him, as he looks over the side of the ship, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
are a phalanx of ghostly figures. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
They look like naval heroes from the past. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
I mean, could that be King Canute, for example, the Viking king? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
Are these references to people like Raleigh or Drake? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
Is that a Pilgrim Father image here? I am not entirely sure. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
But this is so typical of an artist who can't resist | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
putting in more information. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
This is a painting that's designed to be read. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Now we come to the subject of value. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
Well, he's not a very famous artist in the sort of main currency | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
of arts sense, but he does have the Conan Doyle association. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
So, on the back of that, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
-I would put a valuation of about £3,000 on it. -Right. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Thank you very much. It will stay in the family. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
This is such a delightful set of jewellery, and in a case. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
How did you come about it? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
My mother-in-law recently died, and we were sorting out her room, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
and we found a strongbox. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
When we opened it, we found family papers inside and some jewellery, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
and this box. When we opened it up, we thought, wow, you know, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
we'd really like to know what it is, really. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
I mean, we'd like to know, is it 1920's or, you know, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
what era it comes from? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
-Yeah. What makes you think it's 1920's? -The tassels. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
It just reminds me of the Charleston. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Yes, those wonderful flapper dresses and the long necklaces they wore, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
and the very sort of free style, wasn't it, during the 1920s? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
-Well, it's actually from round about 1860-1870. -Oh, right! | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
Yeah, it's a lovely Victorian set of jewellery | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
which is known as a demi-parure. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
And a parure is a full set of jewellery which would include | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
a brooch, a pair of earrings, as we have here, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
but then a necklace and also a bracelet. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
So a demi-parure is a part of a big set of jewellery. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
It brings out one of the really fun parts of Victorian jewellery | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
and design, and that was the classical revival. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
It's got a lot of beadwork just around the edge and also ropework, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
which is inspired by these ancient Etruscan designs. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
There were a group of designers working in London in the 1860's | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
and 1870's, and a couple of famous names like Castellani, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
Robert Phillips, and also Giuliano. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Now, this isn't by any of those major designers, but obviously, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
due to the detail that we're looking at here, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
the designer and jeweller was looking at these makers | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
and taking inspiration from their very good quality work as well. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
So, in the centre of each of the pieces, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
we've also got a lovely, delicate, but strong-coloured emerald | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
surrounded by half pearls, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
which really give a softness to the very strong, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
yellow-coloured metal that it's set in. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Did you have any idea about what the metal might be? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
I just thought it was gold plate, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
because I couldn't see any markings at all, any hallmarks. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
During the Victorian period, in England, we didn't have to | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
hallmark jewellery if it was a precious metal such as gold. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
And this is gold. It's probably 15-carat gold, which is | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
a nice gold to be working with during the period. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
Through it, they've created these very delicate tassels as well which | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
do add that fun aspect to the piece of jewellery | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
-and almost bring it alive, don't they? -Yes, yes, they do. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
So, if it were to go up at auction, I think | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
all the factors are going in its favour. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
A collector in a current market is going to pay | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
somewhere between £600 and £800 for it. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Wow. Wow. SHE LAUGHS | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Didn't expect that much, no! | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
I am so excited by this moment, because, for a start, I am looking | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
at the only object in Roadshow history | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
that came in its own private jet. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
That's a pretty good start. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Secondly, I am looking at something which is absolutely totally | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
involved in the early history of military aviation. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
This is the Schneider Trophy. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
I must confess straightaway, I was confused when I heard about this, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
because I thought, "Schneider Cup, I know all about that." | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
Seaplane races in the 1920s and '30s, Britain the outright winner, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-Mitchell's S6B, father of the Spitfire, all that story. -Yes. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
But, of course, it's not that. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:45 | |
This is a much earlier story and much more important in a way. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
I know you're a squadron leader based here, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
so, obviously you're the perfect person to tell me all about it. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
Well, it was awarded to Bertram Dickson in 1910, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
and he won it in a race in France, in Tours, in fact, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
which it says on the front. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
He won it for achievement at distance in the air. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Originally, Bertram Dickson had flown for the army, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
and the army had decided there was no future in flying | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
and he left the army. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
Eventually, they said, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
"Well, just do us a demo on Salisbury Plain of what flying | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
"can do for reconnaissance, etc." He got in his plane, and in the | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
audience watching from the ground was Lord Kitchener and Winston Churchill. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
He said, "By Jove, there's something in this!" | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
-And that's how it started. -That's why we're here. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
-It all starts at that point. -Absolutely. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
And those early years were filled with international competitions. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
They were about speed, they were about distance, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
they were about endurance, they were about all sorts of things. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
The Tours one - correct me if I am not right - | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
this was about how long you could stay in the air. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
-Correct, yes, yes. -And he won it. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
And is it fair to say he was the father of military aviation? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
I think so. Certainly, the Royal Air Force today very much looks at this | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
trophy as, you know, it the father of aviation. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-So this is where it all starts? -Indeed. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
How does it come to you? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
It was flown in from RAF Cranwell, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-and the trophy was presented to RAF Cranwell in 1946. -Right. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
From there on in, it's been awarded at elementary flying | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
training at Cranwell for airmanship both in the air and on the ground. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
-So it's about achievement? -Indeed. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
-So it goes to the best student of the year? -Absolutely, absolutely. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-Did you get it? -I'm not a flyer, unfortunately! | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-Would you have liked to have won it? -I'd have loved to have won it, yes. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
I think, you know, it's rare for things to tell such | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
an important story. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
You look at this and, obviously, this starts the Royal Flying Corps | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
which in April 1918 becomes the Royal Air Force. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
We then go through all the campaigns from then to now | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
to where we are now, standing beside a Tornado. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
And this has been there throughout that, in one form or another. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
-Absolutely, yes. -I think it's an amazing object. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
It's quite... for pilots to actually hold this, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-with all its history, it is quite humbling. -It is. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
It's an amazing thing, it's quite breathtaking, actually. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
Now, you know, conventionally, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
we talk about the value of these things. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
How does one value something which invented the RAF? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
I know, I know, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
it's certainly not been valued in our sort of lifetime and not recently. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
Well, I can only value it from the point of view of similar | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
motoring, aviation cups that have come up for sale, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
-and that takes us certainly to £100,000, £150,000. -Right. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
-But there is no parallel. -No. -And you're not going to sell it either? | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-No. No, no. -Not even in these days of economy? -No! No, no. -No. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:40 | |
But there is a huge demand for things that have such resonance, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
such iconic status, and this is certainly one of the greatest. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-That's fabulous. -It's a wonderful moment for me, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
and let's hold it together. Here we are. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-We can both do it. -OK! -Wonderful. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
I've just been shown this intriguing little book. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
It's called Primitive Physick | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
or An Easy And Natural Method Of Curing Most Diseases. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
And it's written in 1768. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And George III was on the throne in 1768, and of course famously, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
he went mad. And when you look at some of the suggested cures here, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
perhaps it's hardly surprising! | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
There's a cure here for something called canine appetite. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
"If it be without vomiting, it is often cured by a small | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
"bit of bread dipped in wine and applied to the nostrils." | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Or, down here, "To cure baldness, rub the part morning | 0:22:35 | 0:22:42 | |
-"and evening with onions until it is red." -LAUGHTER | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Anyone round here to whom that might apply?! -No! | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
And this is my favourite. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
"Deafness, be electrified through the ear." | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-Annie one fancy trying any of these?! -Pardon?! LAUGHTER | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
For me, these pieces of furniture | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
have to represent the ideal Sunday afternoon. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
You've had a long lunch, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
you want to sit down, relax, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
chill out on a very comfortable chair. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
But it's a chair with a secret. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Pull open the side and you find there's a bar in each arm. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
Please tell me you use it for that! | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Yes, I do, and I have a lovely little lamp that goes over there | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
where you can rest a glass on as well. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I think for me, this sums up as well, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
a lot of the essence of the gentlemen in the Metro Land. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
If you think of the Metropolitan Line coming out of London, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
all of those northwest boroughs, filling up with houses on these | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
enormous estates and people sort of living this wonderful, idyllic life. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
You'd be in your garden, attending your roses with your wife, perhaps. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
-Come indoors, sit down and mix a wonderful gin and tonic. -Yes. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
HE LAUGHS Absolutely right, yes. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
So, what we're looking at are two pieces made during the 1920's, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
probably the 1930's, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
very strongly in the Art Deco style | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
with this geometric stepped form here. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
But there's more to this table than meets the eye. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
And there it is. Where on earth did you find them? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
This one was in an auction. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
This one was actually in an antique shop, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
but it was in the back room and the lady who ran the antique shop | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
actually used to sit in it and I said, if you ever want to sell it, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
please could I buy it, and then she eventually sold her shop | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
and came to me and said, did I want to buy the chair? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
And of course, I snapped it up. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
I can absolutely understand why. This would make a comfy seat. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Now, presumably, she recovered this? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
She did, and I think it's a kind of African material that has been | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
chosen for that, strangely. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's certainly not original, but it sort of matches the sort | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
of style that you would want to see on an Art Deco piece like this. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
I'd imagine a very similar sort of colour | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and very similar geometric type pattern. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
Although it's not right, it sort of looks right. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
-It gives a good impression, I suppose. -Yes. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
These sorts of pieces, ten, 15 years ago, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
were being thrown out of auction houses. They simply weren't selling. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Nowadays, the situation is really quite different. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
The Art Deco style is incredibly popular. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
It fits with that sort of modern look, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
clean-lined look that we've got. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
And I could see in auction, that these two pieces, the chair, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:18 | |
I would have thought around £300-£500. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
-And I think the table, around £400-£600. -OK. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
-Yeah. Very good. -Does that please you? -Yes, it does. That was £100. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
-And that was £300. -So, you've done well already then? -Yes, thank you! | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-LAUGHTER -What's your favourite cocktail by the way? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-It is gin and tonic. -Gin and tonic? -Yes. -Excellent. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
-Well, you can have a double when you get back! -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
Do you call it a tablecloth? | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
It was called a tablecloth when it was given to us. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
The story was, that this was worked by Irish nuns | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
and presented to the Queen Mother. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
And I understand that from time to time, the Queen Mother used to give | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
presents that she had received | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
to one of her charities and that's what happened. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-It's so white! -Well, it wasn't white when it was purchased. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
It was quite grubby. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
And in fact, the couple who owned it put it in a bath of hot water | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
-and trod on it as though you were pressing grapes. -Trampled it?! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
-Trampled it. -In a bath?! -In a bath, yes. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
And then spent a long time teasing out all of the little bits | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
and pieces, because they were all flattened. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
And then, they had it mounted on this frame. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
And that is again, in a big picture frame. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
-So you have it as a picture at home? -Yes. -And do you love it? -I love it. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Every time I visited them, I walked past it and it was in a hall | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
and I used to stop and admire it | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
and always find something new. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
And we were at their house once when they were moving | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
and getting rid of a lot of things and having things valued, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
and the valuer came through and said that he just didn't know what | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
to value it at, because he had never seen anything like it. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
And I said to our friend, well, I think | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
-it should go in a museum because it is so unique. -As a collection? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Yes. And he said, well it's not going in a museum because they have | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
lots of things they put in a cellar and you never see it again. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
He said, I know what I'm doing with it, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
and he said, I'd like you to take that home, because you | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
love it, you've got daughters that love nice things and you've got | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
granddaughters, and I would like it to be passed down your family! | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Well, isn't that fantastic?! | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
We still seem to find new things, every time we look at it. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Well, I think this dates probably from between 1900 and 1910, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
and in fact, you can't call it a tablecloth, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
and it's not a quilt or a bedspread, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
but what I think that this is, if we can think of it, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
it's like a sampler. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
I think that the overall impression of this is just, wow! | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
Can you imagine how long it would have taken? | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
And I think very often, when these things are done, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and I think this is a display piece, it is | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
to show, like a sampler, your craftsmanship, your excellence, and | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
in fact, the glory of this is that it's got this 3D quality. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
-It's so lifelike. Right down to these little wisps of corn. -Yes. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:49 | |
It's a tour de force. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Beauty is not always represented by pounds, shillings and pence. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
In this instance, we can say it's glorious. Its value - £300. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
-It's not valuable. -No. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
But it's fantastic and I'm so pleased to have seen it. Thank you. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Standing here, you've got the perfect accessory for a Roadshow. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
I mean, is it a family piece? | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
Yes, it's been in my family for many years. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
I think, probably goes further than my great-grandfather. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
A member of the family went to Australia or came back | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
from Australia and carved it and that's as much as I know. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
-Onboard ship? -Yes. -Yes. I mean, that may be... | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
This is where provenance really comes in. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
..that may be true, but that, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
unless you can prove that, is going to be lost in history, really. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
It IS made onboard ship. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
I mean these would have been whaling ships, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
where the most abundant resource would be whalebone. And teeth. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
And you can see, typically here, for whalebone, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
you've got this black flecking in there. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
But it's such a lovely piece of carving. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
You almost wonder what travels this would have been on. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
I mean, you would have spent hours onboard ship, day after day, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
sitting there with not much to do. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:09 | |
If you were on a whaling ship, this is the sort of thing you would do. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
Sit there and carve this to bring home. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
It would date from 1860, 1870, that sort of date. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
-I mean, is it something you like? -I absolutely love it. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
Yeah, there is something so charming about this type. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
It really is a form of artwork in itself. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
It's a real shame that it isn't dated, or with the name of a ship. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
I mean, that's quite rare in itself, but if it was dated, it would | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
be even more sort of interesting. And value wise, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
around £1,500. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Goodness me! | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Wow! | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
-My mother would love to know that! -You look like you need | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
something to lean on, so I'll give you that back. Thank you very much. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-Thank you so much. -I love this sort of artwork, so thank you very much | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-for bringing it in. -Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
Well, it looks as though a tornado ripped through this little | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
scene here. Tell me about this Chinese hut. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
We think it's a theatre. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
My grandfather brought it back from China, many, many years ago. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
He was involved in the pottery business and ran a pottery | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
and he just saw it and I think in glazes, particularly, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
because the company that he worked with, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
particularly his own grandfather, father and grandfather, I think | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
were very interested in glazes. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:36 | |
Yeah. Well, I can see that absolutely appealing. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
And what you have here is actually | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
a piece of theatre, quite literally. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:44 | |
This is a classic Chinese Theatre, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
as you see in all of the great cities in China today. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
Sadly, it's a piece of theatre where several of our players have | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
exited and you can see where they were, because there are little holes | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
in the stage where these figures would have popped in, like so. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
And this table, standing at the back, which is | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
a permanent fixture, it's a part of the actual permanent stage | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
feature, has holes itself, and this is actually an alter table. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
And it would have had a classic set of incense burners and | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
candlesticks, as you see on Chinese Buddhistic altars to this day. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
But the fact that these figures are detachable suggest that it was, you | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
know, something that you could develop or you could play with. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
Every large domestic dwelling in China | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
has a traditional three-courtyard construction | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
and very often has a temple-like theatre, like this. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
So this is a glimpse of China. So these two little survivors | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
at the front, they're obviously engaged in a conversation. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Usually it was something to do with money or marriage. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
But it's beautifully observed piece of ceramic construction. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
Made in Guangdong, a southern province of China. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Date is late 19th-century or even early 20th. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:08 | |
And I'm slightly sort of foxed by this trough at the front. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Because on one side, we've got a dragon whose tail disappears | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
going through here and then it reappears coming out here. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
And on my side, we've got a large carp, and if you look at them, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
they've got a little hole in each and I had a jolly good | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
look inside to see how this works, because these are little fountains. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
So this is an ornamental Chinese stoneware theatre, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
which would have had a little fountain playing. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
I mean, one is tempted to compare it with some of the Indian | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
restaurants one goes into today, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
which have these tasteful little shrines of Buddhas, etc. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
Certainly, these were expected to play as fountains. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
It's really lovely. I feel quite jealous of that. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
I think that's a great thing to have. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Difficult to put a value on a souvenir. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Probably, if you put it up for auction, it would | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
-fetch getting on for £1,000, maybe a little more. -Yes. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
Good, thank you very much indeed. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
Anyone might be forgiven for thinking those were egg cups | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
or goodness knows what, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
-but I understand, you probably realise they're napkin rings. -Yes. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
Have you any idea who the initials are? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
The smaller of the two is my grandfather's. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
It was given to him on his 21st birthday. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
It was made by Omar Ramsden, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
who had his studio just around the corner | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
from my great-grandfather's art studio. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-Really? -In Fulham. -Did they know each other? -I believe they did, yes. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:43 | |
The larger of the two was given to my grandmother | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-when my grandmother and grandfather got married in 1920. -How fantastic. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
The reason I picked them out is actually because these two | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
napkin rings tell a very interesting story of the period. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
They are, the first one anyway, is made by Ramsden and Carr, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:03 | |
who were a firm of silversmiths working around the corner | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
-from your great-grandfather. -Yes. -The second one, | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
although more or less identical, is made by Alwyn Carr on his own. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
And there is a very good reason why Alwyn Carr | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
is making it on his own. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
It's because during the First World War, Omar Ramsden | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
stayed at home and Alwyn Carr went off to fight with the Artist Rifles, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
who later became the SAS, in fact, but they weren't at the time. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
And when he came back, he found that Omar Ramsden didn't need him | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
any more and so they went their separate ways. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
You may have noticed that the hallmark on the slightly | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
older one was made in 1908 by Ramsden and Carr, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-but we've got this napkin ring which is 1920... -Yes. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
..which has got Alwyn Carr's mark solo, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
demonstrating not only had the partnership well | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
and truly dissolved, but that Alwyn Carr carried on using | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
his own designs after he had ceased to be in business with Omar Ramsden. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Yes. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:01 | |
You may also like to know that small | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
and napkin ring-like as they are, they are quite collectable. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
-That's good to know. -Yes. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
Alwyn Carr and Omar Ramsden both are big collectors areas, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
and those two napkin rings would cost you about £400 each | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
if you went to a shop to try and buy them. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
My goodness. They're our 25th wedding anniversary | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
present from Tom's dad. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
-That's a very generous present! -They're not going anywhere. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-Mind you, with a family connection, they need to stay put. -They do. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
-Absolutely. -Staying in the family. -Thank you very much. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Thank you very much, thank you. That's great. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
Like most small boys, I had an interest in aeroplanes | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
and I made small, plastic ones, I graduated to three, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:47 | |
four-foot wingspan flying models that never got quite to this stage. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
What took you here? | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Well, my school was underneath the runway at RAF Sculthorpe in the '50s. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
When Americans were here in force, flying over our school, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
we had to stop lessons. I used to run and look out the windows | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
and I thought, this is for me. I'll build model planes. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
Starting off with the small ones and it went from there, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
and my father objected to it, because he was in the Navy | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
and the more he objected, the more I built the aeroplanes. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
And I've been building them for 65 years. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
But what you see here today with the lorry | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
and this one, is the last 42 years. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
-42 years? -Yes. -How many planes in the lorry there? -25. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
We had a quick glance at them, no detail, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
but they all look as remarkable as this one. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
But this is the biggest, isn't it? | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
-This is the biggest and probably the last. -How big is it? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
That's a sixth scale. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
And most people who don't know about aeroplanes | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
might be mistaken in thinking this is a Lancaster, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
because that is the classic four-engine World War II bomber, | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
-but it isn't, is it? -It's a Stirling | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
and Stirlings operated from here in 1942, where we are today. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
-Are there any of these still flying? -No. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
-There's just the one Lancaster and none of these. -That's correct. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
Em...this is not a free flight model, is it? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
It's on a tethered line, round and round on 120-foot steel wires. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
-But it actually flies? -They all fly, yes. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
How long did it take you to build? | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
6,550 hours, spread over 15 years. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
And are you interested in value? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
I would like to know a value because one or two museums | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
in Europe and here are on the phone. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Right, if somebody really wants this, if it goes to a museum, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
a static display of aircraft and it fills a niche, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
it's got to be somewhere in the region of £10,000, in that area. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:49 | |
-Would you agree? -Thank you very much. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Would you shoot me down at that? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
No, I wouldn't dream of shooting you down. Thank you. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
Well, we're here today in this beautiful sunshine | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
and you've brought this amazing necklace and locket here. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
There's a photograph of a lady and a gentleman inside, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
looking very pleased with themselves, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
but also there seems to be some family resemblance. Who are they? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
It's my grandmother and my grandfather on my mother's side. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
And then if we look on the reverse... | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
..there's an inscription with a date around it. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
The date on the back of the locket was their wedding day in 1908. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
Oh, wonderful. And where would he have got this from? | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
He's actually made it himself. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
He was an artist and oil painter and he also made jewellery | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
and taught jewellery, both at the art school in Barrow-in-Furness | 0:40:02 | 0:40:09 | |
and also as principal of Harrogate Art College. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
Gosh, what an amazing husband to have, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
someone who could actually make jewellery and obviously | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
appreciated all the arts and gave his wife such a fabulous present. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
It's very typical of the Arts and Crafts movement | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
that was at its height roundabout this period | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
and it's interesting that he was based | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
up in Barrow because, of course, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
we have the Keswick School Of Industrial Art in that area as well | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
and it was down to these schools of art | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
where these artists flourished | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
and took forward the principles of the Arts and Crafts movement. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
He's used beautiful mabe pearls here, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
which are slightly misshapen, but have a lovely lustre to them. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
He's also used these delightful cabochon-cut sapphires, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
which if I just pull the chain up a little bit, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
we can really appreciate the lovely, delicate blue colour, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
which through the cut, which has got a flat back and a domed surface, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
has helped to intensify the colour | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
and he's also use that similar cut on the chrysoprase, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
which we have here, which is a form of hard stone, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
which not really many people appreciate today, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
but was used extensively in Art Nouveau jewellery. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
And the Arts and Crafts movement was about getting back to these | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
basics of handcrafted jewellery. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Now, sadly, a lot of the guilds | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
which were set up in local villages and homes, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
where people were working together, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
didn't succeed and a lot of them went out of business, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
but those that did succeed, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
such of the School Of Industrial Art in Keswick | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
and the Guild Of Handicrafts, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:37 | |
produced some amazing pieces of jewellery | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
and I think your grandfather was probably looking at | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
some of the key designers, such as Arthur Gaskin, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
who was producing very similar examples of jewellery like this. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
-Do you remember your grandfather? -Yes, very much so. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
-He taught me to draw. -Wonderful. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
And I've carried on doing quite a lot of artistic things since then. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
Fantastic. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
Well, it's great that you appreciate it as a work of art | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
and not just a piece of jewellery and, naturally, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
I'm sure it's going to stay in the family for a very long time | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
and won't be sold, but if it did come on the open market, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
because of the interest in Arts and Crafts jewellery, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
particularly at the moment, I think it would fetch | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
somewhere between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
-Really? -Yes. -Oh, wow! I had no idea. Thank you. -It's my pleasure. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
I'm sure you're even more proud of your grandfather now. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-Yes! Thank you very much. -Thank YOU very much. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
This is such an unusual thing because it's unfinished. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
Where did it come from? | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
My father bought it when he was 15 and it cost ten shillings. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
He saw it in an antique shop in Sussex | 0:42:44 | 0:42:46 | |
and that's all I know about it. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
That's a pretty unusual thing for a 15-year-old boy to buy. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
He's always loved antiques, but yes, it's quite a feminine object. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
It certainly is. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
There is this wonderful doll-like lady sitting here, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
in very opulent 17th-century dress | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
and I love all of these birds and insects - | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
moths, caterpillars, ladybirds. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
I wonder why it wasn't finished. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
Would it have been a wealthy person? Would she have got ill? | 0:43:16 | 0:43:21 | |
Died? | 0:43:21 | 0:43:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
I don't know! | 0:43:24 | 0:43:25 | |
Well, I think there is a chance that whoever made this did die. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
I mean, why else would something this beautiful | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
with such expensive materials be left unfinished? | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
But I also have another theory | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
and that is this mark that is running down the side of it. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
Do you see here? | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
I wonder if the girl or lady who was stitching this | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
spilled something on it and possibly got into awful trouble. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:56 | |
If it was a young girl, she wouldn't have started out | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
working on satin and working in satin stitch with silk thread. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
She would almost inevitably have started working on samplers, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
which would have been on a linen ground | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
and so she would have worked her way up to this. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
And to then leave it unfinished | 0:44:14 | 0:44:18 | |
is sort of almost inconceivable, | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
but it's one of those things that remains unknown. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
It is so revealing, isn't it, because it's unfinished? | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
I have read about silk embroidered pictures being worked like this, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:31 | |
but I've never actually seen one on its frame. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
-Do you have any idea of its date? -No, not at all. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
Well, it's definitely 17th-century and I would date it at around 1660. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:45 | |
What would it have been for? | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
It may well just have been as a small picture | 0:44:47 | 0:44:50 | |
to be framed and put on the wall, | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
but equally, you see a lot of boxes decorated in this way, | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
so it could have been the top of a box | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
and maybe there would have been then other sections | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
that the lady would have worked to make up the sides to it. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
And that's really the beauty of it, that it's on this beech frame, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:08 | |
with the pegs holding the joints in place and I have to say, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:14 | |
I have never seen one in an unfinished state | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
on the frame that it was worked on around, what, 350 years ago. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:23 | |
-Very old. -But I still think it's worth | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
-around £1,500. -Wow! | 0:45:26 | 0:45:30 | |
That's a lot of money. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:33 | |
Take a look at this postcard. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
It doesn't look anything out of the ordinary. It's to a Miss Cooper | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
near Leicester and it says, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
"Dear Mary, does this surprise you? Of course, I couldn't stand aside. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
"I hope our meeting is only deferred. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
"Hope you are well, will write again later. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
"Lots of love, yours affectionately, Tom." | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
It's only when you see the date, 1914, | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
that you realise that what Tom is telling Mary | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
is that he couldn't stand aside from the call to take up arms | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
on behalf of the country in the First World War. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
Who knows if their meeting was just deferred or whether, in fact, | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
it ever happened? | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
We don't know if they ever met again or indeed if Mary ever married. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
Of course, so many women of that generation never did marry. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
So something rather ordinary, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
once you look at it a bit more closely, becomes rather poignant. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
Well, it's not that unusual on the Roadshow | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
for us to see horn beakers like this one here | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
and quite often they have a silver plaque on the front, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
commemorating perhaps, a family event | 0:46:38 | 0:46:40 | |
or someone's retirement from work, | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
but when I read the inscription on your plaque, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
I knew it was a bit special. So how long have you had this beaker? | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
-It's been in the family. -So you inherited it? -Yes, yes. -OK. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
Well, let's have a look at the inscription, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
and we can see that it reads, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
"Manufactured from the horn of an ox, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
"roasted whole at the opening of | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
"the London and Southampton Railway, May 11, 1840." | 0:47:01 | 0:47:06 | |
And if we turn it round, we can see on the back, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
there's a wonderful silver plaque with an engraving | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
of an early train, looking pretty much like Stephenson's Rocket. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
And, of course, the date, 1840, in terms of railways, is pretty early. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:24 | |
Did your family have any connections with the railway or not? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
Yes, I believe my adoptive mother's great-grandfather was | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
the person who put the money into... | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
-Into the railways? -Yes. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
Yes, well, obviously there was a great excitement | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
and I had never heard of the ox roast at the opening | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
of the London to Southampton Railway, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:44 | |
so I think railway historians could be very interested | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
by this particular beaker | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
and certainly, if this came up for auction, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
-I could easily see it fetching £1,000, £1,500. -Right. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
Possibly a lot more because I've never seen anything like it before, | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
-it's a unique piece, so we'd just have to see. -I'd better clean it! | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
I think a bit of silver polish might not go amiss! | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
-Thank you for bringing it in. -You're very welcome. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
Now, are you a fan of Madonna or Lady Gaga by any chance? | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
-Neither, particularly. -Well, there we are. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:17 | |
The reason I mention it is that both of them would be fans of this. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
-Oh, right. -And that's important. We'll get to that bit later on. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:25 | |
It's a glass crucifix. Where did you find it? | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
I found it at a street fair in northern France about ten years ago. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
-And did you pay a lot of money for it? -Very little. Under £50. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:37 | |
-So little you couldn't remember. -No. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
Well, it's signed on the side, Rene Lalique, | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
the famous French glass designer and it's a great example of his work. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
Also, this great chrome base is very Art Deco | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
and Lalique is best when he's in the Art Deco period, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
so this is what the collectors are looking for. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
And the reason I mentioned Madonna and Lady Gaga is because, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
generally, religious stuff turns people off, but this is very stylish | 0:49:00 | 0:49:05 | |
and because the likes of Madonna and Lady Gaga... | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
Cher is a great collector of religious stuff as well, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
so this has crossover appeal and because of its crossover appeal, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
it's going to be worth more than the £50 or so you paid for it. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
I think if that was in the right auction, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
someone like Madonna or Cher or even Lady Gaga | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
-might pay £1,000 for it. -Really? | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
-Yep. -That was quite a good return on my francs then. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
A very good return. Your prayers have been answered! | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
-You're a member of the Pugin family, aren't you? -Yes, I am. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
It's an extraordinary story. Where do you fit in, just remind me? | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
Well, I'm the great-great-grandson. My father, Michael Pugin Purcell, | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
was an accountant, | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
but his father, Charles, was an architect in Liverpool. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
He finished... Pugin & Pugin finished in 1958 when he died. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
So he carried on the family business in effect, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
although it wasn't a family business, but yes. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
I mean, Pugin has always been THE most intriguing man. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
One ends up in life with heroes, groups of them, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
and he certainly became one of mine. His achievements are so astonishing. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
I mean, we haven't time to go through it now, but he was | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
one of THE great designers of the 19th century, | 0:50:22 | 0:50:25 | |
and really, in many ways, the founder of modern Britain, | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
in the way we live and the way we look today. | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
If I just say the Palace of Westminster, | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
the Houses of Parliament, I think people get the idea. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
You know, he was creator of modern Gothic. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
What always intrigued me about him | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
was his private life, his personal life. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
He was married several times, he had many children | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
and his last wife, Jane, was always somehow an intriguing figure. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
I mean, you must have been much more drawn into it than I, | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
but she was much younger than him | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
-and, I think, she survived him by over 50 years. -That's right. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
She was married for four years and then a widow for 57 years | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
-and she buried both her children. -So an astonishing thing. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
And what intrigues me most of all | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
is seeing here, a photograph of her I have never seen before. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
Well, it could have been an engagement present in about 1847. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:15 | |
Yes, it's an early daguerreotype. It fits in with that period. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:19 | |
The dress she is wearing and the jewellery is not designed by him | 0:51:19 | 0:51:23 | |
and, in most later photographs, she's wearing his jewellery. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
It's when she's called a truly Gothic woman. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
I know and I've always loved that statement. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
"At last," he says, "I have a truly Gothic woman." | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
I spent the last 20 years wondering, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
what is a truly Gothic woman and none the nearer knowing! | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Well, she brought up the grandchildren | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
and also promoted local charities and the St Augustine School. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
That's right, she was a great woman, but there she is | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
and I'm sure this is a picture no-one has ever seen before. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
We've got her here again, obviously much older, | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
-with two of her grandchildren. -That's Charles. -That's him? | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
Yes, and Mary, who married a Mr Riddell. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
Right, so there is a direct link here between her and him? | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
-That's right. -And, of course, Pugin's house, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
The Grange in Ramsgate in Kent, survives. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
It's owned now by the Landmark Trust, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
it's been restored very much to his time | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
and seeing that, with this immensely complicated, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:17 | |
colourful and dynamic design, shows how people lived. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
And, of course, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
he designed most of the things as well as the decoration | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
for that house, which takes us really onto here, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
because this is a fairly conventional | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
Gothic-revival candlestick. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:33 | |
You think, "Well, nothing special about it," | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
until you look there and this is Pugin's personal badge, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
en avant, his motto, with that strange bird. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
-A little martlet. -Martlet bird, yes. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
-And it's marked on here. He had this. -In his house. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:48 | |
It was in his house, he designed it, it was made by Hardman, | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
but that doesn't really matter. What matters is I can imagine him | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
-walking around the house carrying this. Can you? -Yes | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
and he used to look out to sea if ships were in danger | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
-and want to help them. -Well, he was a great sailor, too. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:03 | |
But the fact that this comes from that house | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
is like, sort of touching history really. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
Of course, because he's such an important figure, I mean, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
these are family photographs, wonderful visions of their life | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
and, of course the life that went on after his death in 1852. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
This is a tangible object. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
Now, if we looked at this, as I say, mid-Victorian, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
late-Victorian candlestick, it would have been one of a pair... | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
Without the badge, I'd see those in a shop | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
and I'd think, "£150 a pair, nothing special." | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
Turn that round... | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
..and suddenly it's something different. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
You know, that on its own must be at least £1,000 | 0:53:38 | 0:53:41 | |
and if you had the pair, much, much more, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
because it's HIS thing and that's what makes things different. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
Once you've put the person back into the object, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
it's a completely different story. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
Now, of course, | 0:53:52 | 0:53:53 | |
I haven't actually thought about the value of Jane's photograph. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:56 | |
I mean, it's a very early daguerreotype. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
It's in very good condition, it's unfaded. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
If we just take it as a photograph without any connections, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:05 | |
it's between £50 and £100, possibly more, just because of what it is. | 0:54:05 | 0:54:11 | |
A hitherto unknown photograph of Jane Knill, Pugin's wife and widow, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:17 | |
I think goes towards £500 | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
because it's a wonderful image of her and one otherwise unseen. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
It is beautiful and even the hairstyle | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
makes you think of early Victorian. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
Well, as you say, it's 1847. It's a fantastic object, as well. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:33 | |
Well, here's a brooch gleaming in the sunshine | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
and I rather want to know how it is with you. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
-Was it given to you? -Yes, it was. -And who gave it to you? | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
-My husband. -That's very good, isn't it? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
Jewellery-buying husbands are almost an extinct species. They're... | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
But this is a most beautifully chosen one | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
and I think it's got a very interesting subliminal message, | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
which is only secondary to what I'm going to | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
tell you next, actually. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
In fact, it signifies forever luck in love. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
He's a horseshoe for luck, the diamonds are forever | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
and a little sprig of mistletoe, | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
a little amatory significance there, so forever luck in love, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
but from your husband and how often does he buy you bits of jewellery? | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
Every now and again I get a little surprise. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
-For your anniversary and for your birthday? -No, just out of the blue. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
Out of the blue! | 0:55:20 | 0:55:21 | |
And he buys that as a complete surprise to you, | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
-you'd never seen it before? -No. -Astounding. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
I had a little look at it earlier and, on the back, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
there's a series of hallmarks and they are significant | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
to what I'm going to tell you next. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
Well, this is a sequence of hallmarks that not only tells me | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
that this brooch is made in Russia in 1900, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
but there's also a hallmark there that tells me | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
that this is made by the most famous goldsmith that ever lived. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
This is a brooch by Carl Faberge. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Lovely. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:52 | |
And it says 56 because there are 56 parts of pure gold in the alloy | 0:55:52 | 0:55:58 | |
and it's made for the immediate circle | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
of the Emperor and Empress of Russia. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
They were avid shoppers at Faberge and they bought | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
exactly this sort of thing to give away | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
and in this case, it's made of gold | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
and decorated with this very interesting orange-coloured enamel | 0:56:13 | 0:56:19 | |
and diamonds and it's a sentimental thing | 0:56:19 | 0:56:22 | |
and it did that job for somebody, | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
perhaps in the circle of Nicholas and Alexandra, | 0:56:24 | 0:56:26 | |
but it did that job for you, as well, didn't? | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
-Yes. -Amazing, really. Can't believe it's happened. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:33 | |
Can't believe it's happened to me, actually, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
because it's a wonderful voyage of discovery | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
and these sort of brooches, | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
not only because of their amatory significance, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
but because of the context and the excitement of the maker, | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
have been offered at auction and they have fetched as much as, | 0:56:46 | 0:56:52 | |
-well, £10,000. -Really?! | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
No! It can't be! | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
I can't see any reason why this wouldn't fetch that, actually. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
-Really? -Yes. And you have a gem of a jewel, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:05 | |
-but apparently a gem of a husband as well. -Yeah, lucky day, isn't it? | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
Yes, you are a lucky girl, no questions at all. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
-Thank you so much. -Wonderful, lovely. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:14 | |
Look at this poster. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:15 | |
It's for an air display commemorating the Battle of Britain. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
1947, flying trips, grand air pageant, mock air attack, | 0:57:19 | 0:57:24 | |
the whole works. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:25 | |
And it took place here at Royal Air Force Marham all those years ago | 0:57:25 | 0:57:31 | |
and a visitor brought it along today and has very kindly | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
donated it to the personnel here at the base, | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
so David Cooper, you're the base commander. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
Where are you going to put it? | 0:57:39 | 0:57:41 | |
It's an extremely generous donation from the public. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
I can only think it will have to go in station headquarters | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
and take pride of place there. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:47 | |
Sounds just right. Well, from the Antiques Roadshow here at RAF Marham | 0:57:47 | 0:57:51 | |
and all the RAF personnel who've helped us so generously | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
and all those Tornadoes that kept going overhead, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
until next week, bye-bye. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
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