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This week's Roadshow venue wouldn't win any beauty contests | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
but it's what helped Britain conquer the skies. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Whoa! | 0:00:16 | 0:00:17 | |
Look at the size of that! | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
In here, our best boffins tested the designs of, among other things, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
the Spitfire, the Hurricane, parachutes. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
It's quite a story. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
Welcome to The Antiques Roadshow | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
from Farnborough Wind Tunnels, in Hampshire. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
Farnborough Wind Tunnels borders Farnborough Aerodrome. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
This is where the history of British aviation - | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
from kite flying, ballooning, gliding | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
and then powered flight - really took off | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
in the early 20th century. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
What was known as the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
pioneered our jet engine industry. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
The development of the Hurricane, the Harrier Jump Jet, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
the perfect delta wing of the Concorde... | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
and yet, this historic site could have been lost to us for ever. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
The whole area was being sold off | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
by the Ministry of Defence in the early 1990s, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
when a former RAF fighter pilot, working nearby, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
wondered what was shaking the foundations of his office. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
He stumbled across one of the wind tunnels | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
carrying out its final test before decommissioning. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Findlay Gordon decided the site was worth saving | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
and with friends, colleagues and councillors, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
launched a charity - The Farnborough Air Sciences Trust, or FAST. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
Together they set out to save the dusty remains of design models, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
prototype engines, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:23 | |
buildings, from the scrap heap, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
to save a crucial part of Britain's aviation history. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Facing down the MOD, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
they spear-headed a campaign to save this - | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
the oldest wind tunnel building in the UK, built originally in 1916. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:43 | |
Nothing sums up the achievement of that group better | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
than this incredible piece of design and technology built in 1935. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:05 | |
The laminated mahogany propellers are 24 foot long. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
The space is so huge that full-size aircraft were tested here. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:14 | |
It took three years for the plucky band to win through | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
and secure the future of these buildings | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
by getting a heritage listing, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
and they also rescued hundreds of thousands of objects and images. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
The wind tunnels are decommissioned now, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
but I'm told they can be operational | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
if they're plugged into the national grid. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Today they can be admired on occasional open days, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
so we're delighted to bring a large crowd | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
to today's show to admire them. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
And, by the way, today's volunteers helping our visitors, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
are members of FAST who saved this whole site. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-You need to go to the shed. -Hiya. -Morning! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
A fabulous Victorian shell house. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-Yes. -Where did you get it from? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Well, there was a second-hand furniture dealer in Aldershot | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
and there's an old guy there reminded me very much of Charlie Chaplin, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
used to wear - a little chap - a bowler hat, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
we brought it home, and we've had it ever since. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
And where has it been for all those years? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
On wardrobes, top of cupboards, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
it's always been on a shelf somewhere. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
And you love it? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
Oh, yes, yes. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
What I love about it is the amazing detail. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:28 | |
You've got this fabulous peacock there and the gentleman, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
and all these different shells which would have been imported. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-Yes, yes. -What did you think about it? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Do you remember it growing up? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:40 | |
I do, me and my brother used to spend hours just... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
I used to spend hours with my face pressed up against the glass, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
trying to see all the little detail of it, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
because if you look in the windows, it's all completely furnished | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
and there's children playing in the front room and it's just amazing. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
My favourite is the little old woman just coming out of the door, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
with her shawl on. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-And she's feeding the chickens. -Yes. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
-And the little pussycat chasing the mouse. -Yes. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
-Yes, yes. -I mean, that's just beautiful. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
And it would have been made about 1850 or 1860, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
-it's quite early Victorian. -Yes, yes. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Of course, the Victorians were very keen on worthwhile pastimes | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and I could see possibly the man of the house | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
actually making the house itself, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and then a woman putting all these shells on, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and it would have taken months to do. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Have you ever seen any like this before, or...? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
This is one of the most detailed ones I've seen. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
I've seen shell houses before, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
they were that sort of early Victorian period. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
They started in the 18th century | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
but the early Victorian period they were very popular. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
-I know you've got a glass dome for it too which keeps it... -Yes. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
-It's in beautiful condition. -Yes. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
I would say, if this came up for auction, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
you'd put an estimate of £800-£1,200. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-Really? -But I could see it, I could see it selling for more than that | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
because it really is sensational. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
Oh! Thank you very much. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
-There you go. Happy? -Oh, yes. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
I love this picture. I mean, it's so Impressionist | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
and that's what, I think, makes it attractive. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
So do you think this is French? | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
No, I think it's German because on the signature it says "Berlin '87". | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
Quite right, 1887 that would be, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
and you can see the signature above. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
"JUL" - Jul for Julius, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and then Jacob or "Ya-cob". J-A-C-O-B. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
And he's a minor artist, born in 1842, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
died in 1929. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
That's literally all the facts we have about the artist. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
But I assume, as it's inscribed "Berlin", | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
that he lived and worked in that region. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Doesn't always follow that, of course, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
because many artists studied abroad so, you know, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
you could have Norwegians, for instance, | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-where I believe you may originate from... -Yes, I do. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
..that studied in Dusseldorf, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
so you often see a picture by a Norwegian artist signed "Dusseldorf" | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
-but that's just by-the-by. -OK. -Did you buy this picture or inherit it? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
No, I inherited it from my grandparents. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-Right. -It was bought in Norway | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
from a very posh arts shop, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
by my grandfather, but I don't know any more about it. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
There's a big connection between Norway and Germany. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
Right. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
And so there was a lot of artists from Germany painting in Norway | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
-and vice versa. -Right. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
And I love this picture, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
but it is very much a sort of typical Impressionist style. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
This was just after the real sort of true Impressionist period in France, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
in the 1870s, so the influence of Impressionism | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
is creeping across Europe, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
and you can see with these beautiful broad strokes of the clouds | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
and this idyllic landscape here in front of us. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
I think it's just beautiful. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Well, I mean there is always a good market for German art | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
but if it had been French - | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
been by a French Impressionist such as Monet - | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
ooh, we'd be talking about a lot of money, wouldn't we? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
For this size, two or three million, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
but being German, I would say we're probably looking at | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
-something in the region of £3,000-£5,000. -Right. OK. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
-Not too bad? -No, very good. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Reading, writing and arithmetic | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
are still obviously part of the national curriculum, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
-but here we've got an 18th-century book on penmanship. -Right. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
The art of lettering, calligraphy. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
-Right. -Can you tell me, where did you get it from? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Well, there was... where I worked there was a gardener | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and he used to be given material | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
and things that weren't wanted to burn on a bonfire | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
and I used to chat to him, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
so he very kindly said, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
"Oh, if there's anything that interests you, I'll keep it." | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
And he gave me that and of course I was delighted, couldn't believe it. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-Yes. -So lovely. -It is, it's a charming book. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I mean, it is a lovely book. It still gives me a bit of a thrill. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
-And it's typical sort of 18th-century binding as well. -Yes. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
And we've got the name of the calligrapher, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
the person who wrote it, here, it's "John Lewis..." | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
and "..is the true owner of this book, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-"written in the year of our Lord God 1734" -Yes. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-What I hadn't realised when I opened it... -Yes? | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
..it's actually an alphabet. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
Oh, yes, because it's quite difficult to decipher the initial letters. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
The initial letters, absolutely, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
the initial letter of each page is in alphabetical order. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-Oh, wonderful, yes. -And so here, on the first page, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
is a capital A and it reads - | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
I've just managed to decipher it - "A wise man will..." | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
and then it gets rather tricky, actually! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
-But that's the A, the capital A. -Oh, right, yes. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
And then if we go a bit further on, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
-this one is a "C" for contentment. -Yes. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
"Makes a man happy without a fortune." | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
And again he's signed it, "John Lewis 1734". | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
This coincides with a book that was published | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
-by a chap called George Bickham. -Oh. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Who published a book called "The Universal Penman" | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
which is the classic calligraphy book. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-Yes. -And I have a suspicion that | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
young John Lewis possibly had a copy of Bickham in front of him | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
and was either copying it, or imitating it. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-Yes, yes, yes. -If we go a bit further on... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
that I think is a "G", although it's terribly complicated. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
-Yes. -But it does work out as being a G. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
He was quite good at it, wasn't he? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Oh, he was very good, very competent, absolutely. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
It's so...it's exciting to have it. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
I mean, I enjoy looking at the way he sort of developed it. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
Some of the styles are different, aren't they? | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Yes, indeed, we've got some sort of old... | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
-what one might call more Gothic script. -Yes. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
-And then there's the sort of typically... -Little head. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
These lovely decorations as well. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
-Yes, yes. -Absolutely charming and it's worth money, actually. -Really? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
I think if you... if it came up for auction, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-it would make somewhere between £300-£500. -Really? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
-I'm amazed at that! -It's charming. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
I thought, being a sort of one-off thing, it wouldn't. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Well, that's what makes it so interesting, it is one-off. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
-It's lovely, thank you. -Oh, well, thank you. That's very, very helpful. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
This is called a cap tally. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
It goes around the cap of a naval man, a sailor. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
I thought it went round the arm. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
No, it's around the cap and it says "HMS Hood". | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
That's a very famous ship. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Now, why do you have this? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Well, my great-grandad was on the Hood when it sank. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
He was a boatswain. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-A very important job. -Yes. -And these are his medals? | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-Yes. -So of course he would never have got to wear them, would he? -No. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
You've brought this album, tell me what's in the album. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Well, in the album are the pictures he took | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
before he had to fight against the Bismarck. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
And if we go onto this page... there's a picture of him in here. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
That's him, that's your great-grandfather? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
-Yes. -In uniform. -Yes. -Now, the interesting thing about that | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
is that he's wearing a cap tally that says "Submarine" on it, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
so there's a reason for that - | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
whether he did serve in submarines at some point, I don't know. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:18 | |
Now, the interesting point about this cap tally is, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
during the Second World War, because of the danger of spying, | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
the ship's name was taken off the cap tally, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
so it only said "HMS" so you couldn't identify... | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
If you saw a sailor in a port, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
you couldn't identify which ship he was from. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
-I see. -Had to keep secrets during the war. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Now, do you know the history of the sinking of the Hood? | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
-Yes. -Do you know how it was destroyed? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
-Yes. -What do you know about that? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Well, I believe it was hit in the decking by the Bismarck. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Well, there was a great battle that took place | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
because the Bismarck was the pride of the German navy | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
and it was thought to be the greatest battleship ever built | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
and almost indestructible. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
And we, the British, desperately wanted to sink the Bismarck | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
and we sent several ships to hunt for the Bismarck | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
and the Hood was one of those ships. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Now, HMS Hood was one of the greatest battleships | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
we've ever built in this country. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
It was regarded as the pride of the British Navy | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and right at the beginning of the battle, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
the Bismarck sent several salvos - several shots - | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
towards the Hood and one of them went into the Hood | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
and probably exploded the magazine - all the ammunition. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
And the explosion was almost instantaneous | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
and the ship just exploded into thousands of pieces. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
It was a terrible explosion | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
and over 1,000 men died on that ship, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
including your great-grandfather. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
What do you think of him? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
I think of him as a very powerful man. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
He must have been very brave to fight for his country | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
and important to be chosen for the Navy. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
But you've got other photographs here too. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Well, that is him sitting on the Hood. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
This is actually on the Hood itself? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
Yes. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
That's a great photo. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I know you're not interested in the value - I'm sure you're not - | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
-but collectors do pay lots of money for this sort of thing. -Yes. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
And there's a very interesting story behind it, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
so I think the medals, the cap tally | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and all these photographs are probably going to be worth | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
something in the region of £800-£1,200. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Well, I'll tell my grandad that. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Now, don't get confused, this isn't Gardeners' World, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
this is The Antiques Roadshow | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
and it's really interesting to see some garden pieces | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
on The Antiques Roadshow for a change. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
I love the way they've been beautifully weathered. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Well, I think they're very old. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
-How old? -Well, they've been in my family for as long as I can remember. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
And what else can you tell me about them? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Well, I don't know where they came from, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
but my parents thought they were worth quite a lot of money | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
and I went to the Watts Gallery a few years ago | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
and I spotted the pots there and I came home and said to my husband, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
-"I've seen my pots at the Watts Gallery." -Bingo! | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
And I saw another one in Godalming Museum on another occasion | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
and that's all I know about them, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
so I can only assume they're Watts pots. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
It was Mary Watts who actually started the business down in Compton | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
and they're a Scottish family | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
and her husband, George F Watts, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
he was a famous artist | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and she had time on her hands | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
-and so she started this business of making pottery. -Yes. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:48 | |
And they were digging the local clay - this red clay - | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
and this is the latter part of the Victorian period | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
and red clay was highly fashionable | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-and these were actually moulded, it's a moulded cast. -Yes. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
And she was selling to the top garden designers. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
She was selling to Gertrude Jekyll, Lutyens and Liberty in London. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
-They were selling these pots. -All the best names. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-Exactly, the top names, especially Gertrude Jekyll. -Yes. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
And in the Jekyll gardens you will see them on a ledge. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-Oh, right. -Because they normally put them on a ledge. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Well, actually, they are... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
The part of the garden they're on is raised up, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
so from the house they are raised. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
-Well, that's aesthetically how they should be shown. -Oh, right. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
-Right, so we've got to get down to values. -Yes. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
Now, these are one of the few items where you can sell these singly | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
and they're still quite valuable. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
I think you've got to look at between £1,500 and £2,000 a pot. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
They're marvellous! | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
Oh, great. Thank you. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
So you were doing a house clearance? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
-Yes. -And...? -My parents' house. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
And somebody came along and offered you how much? | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-£2,500. -For this? -Yes. -OK. -It started off lower than that, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
then gradually crept up throughout the afternoon. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
So you were bargaining? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
-No, I told him it was not for sale. -It wasn't for sale. -Never. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
So you turned down £2,500. You've also brought this painting along. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
-Yes. -Before I tell you whether you made the right or wrong decision, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
I'm going to ask Mark to tell us more about your painting | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
because that really looks lovely. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Well, it is lovely and it's the most beautiful view of Hammersmith. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-Yeah. -In London. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
And it's by EC Williams - Edward Charles Williams - | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
one of the great painters of Victorian England, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
born in 1807 and died in 1881. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
He was part of a huge family of landscape and town painters, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
the Williams family, but I've always thought that EC | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
was one of the better ones. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
And what I love about it is the sort of nice early depiction of London | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
and you can see it's before The Embankment was built | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
and you've got the old Hammersmith Bridge, so it's beautiful. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Do you live near there or...? | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-Yes, we used to, we were in Earls Court. -Oh, not far away at all. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-No. -And you journeyed over this bridge? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
I journeyed over the bridge, yes, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and I journeyed along The Embankment. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
I used to work in the East End, so went back and forth frequently. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
So let's say you wanted to raise £2,500. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
Well, I think I could do better for this. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
I think this little picture's worth £3,000-£5,000 on today's market. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Really? I would never sell it. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
-Oh! -Sorry! -After all that! | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
After all that, I would never sell it, no, I love it. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
No, you must keep it, because it's really lovely and I'm very envious. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
-Thank you. -So, Lars, what about you? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
So you're going to sell the jar instead, is that right? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
-No, I'm not selling anything. -We're not doing very well. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
-Not doing very well, are we? -Let's have a look. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
I'll tell you a bit about the jar. Do you know anything about it? | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
No, not a lot. I think it was in my grandparents' house. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
It's one of those things that's been part of the family | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-for as long as I can remember. -OK. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
This is a very, very bold, unusually bold mark, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
for a piece of Chinese porcelain. You've got six characters. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Great Qing dynasty, Kangxi. Year made. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Kangxi is the clue here. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
This is an emperor who reigned from 1662 to 1722 | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
and almost every Kangxi mark that one sees is wrong. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
And it's very, very bold as well. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
What is nice about this, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
is this wonderful imperial lemon yellow enamel glaze | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
you've got on here, so that is supposed to be reserved for - | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
that particular colour - is reserved for the Emperor and nobody else. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-Oh, quite right! -So at £2,500, actually, I would say take it, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
if this were a copy of the Kangxi period, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
then £2,500 is an extremely generous offer. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-Oh, really? -Yeah. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:44 | |
However, it is actually of the period it says, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
so it's probably worth between £5,000 and £10,000. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
How fantastic! | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Oh, I'm so pleased I didn't. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
It's very lucky he wasn't calling at your door! | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Oh, I'm delighted. I love this. I love this vase. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Again, it's not for sale. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
I love this piece of furniture | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
and I've watched Antiques Roadshow for many years, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
but I've lived in South Africa | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
and haven't been able to get to The Antiques Roadshow. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
And we came to Surrey last year and I looked on the website | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and I saw you were in Farnborough. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
I thought, well, this piece of furniture I'd love to bring. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
This is one of my loves. It's campaign furniture, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
which is basically military furniture | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
made for high-ranking officers | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
at literally the top level. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
And its construction is what I love about it. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
It's made of best mahogany but all this comes apart - | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
it's the early flat-pack furniture, basically. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
It would all be stored in little boxes | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
and it's just unbelievable to find furniture like this. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
A few years ago, this would have been sold as a shelf | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
and no-one would have realised. In the last few years, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
people have really taken military furniture seriously. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
But it needs to have a history. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Have you got any history within the family? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Well, yes, we do. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:02 | |
My grandfather's great-grandfather was Sir John Hindmarsh | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
and he was born in 1785, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
I think, and died in 1860 | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and he fought in seven battles. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
He was a naval officer | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
and he then became the first governor of South Australia. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
And have you worked out which battles he was in, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
before we get onto Australia, or...? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
Yeah, quite a number of them - the Nile, Trafalgar, um... | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
OK, that's pretty impressive! | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Yeah, and there apparently is a letter, which I haven't seen, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
but a letter from Nelson | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
which appointed him to the ship for Trafalgar | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
and which is part of the family history. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
So this was in my grandparents' house | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
and I have assumed that it belonged to him | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
but because I didn't know how old it was... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
It's bang on that date. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I mean 1830-1860, it wouldn't have changed much in style. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
I would say this is around 1830-1840. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I mean, you can only imagine what this piece of furniture has seen, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
-which is why I love campaign furniture. -Yes. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
The battles this could have been in! | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Pieces like this, say in the Battle of Trafalgar or the Nile, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
they were all flat-packed | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
and put into one of the boats and towed behind the ships. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Because one of the biggest causes of death was splinters. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
So you didn't want pieces - cannonballs coming through, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
all this being shattered. So they used to pack it all away. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
That's another reason for the flat-packing. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Such a brilliant system. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
And these aren't right. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
-Oh, they're not? -No, the finials, these are later. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-You wouldn't have things like this. -I wondered because they do look odd. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Exactly, and they would just have a manly finial, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
-a very small finial on top. -A manly one, yeah, I like that. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
-And all this would go. -It does, it does. -Pack down and it's brilliant. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-Pack right down. -And the condition - it needs a little bit of work. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
-I would get this repaired, tidied up and polished. -Yeah. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
But find out that history. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
If you can tie anything to a letter or an order, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
go through any of the old paperwork, it makes a difference. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
As it stands, as a nice piece of campaign furniture, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
it would be £600 to £800. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
If you can tie it to the battles, | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
then it goes up to sort of £2,000 to £3,000 - | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
makes quite a big difference. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Provenance is so important with this stuff. Thanks very much. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-Thank you very much. Really interesting, thanks. -It's great fun. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
These are the notebooks of Sir George Cayley, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
who was born in Yorkshire in 1777 | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
and by 1800 he had formulated the theory of flight | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
and he understood the forces | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
that act on what we would call an aeroplane today. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
He designed the caterpillar track which was used on, you know, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
large earth-moving equipment and military vehicles. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
He designed the self-righting lifeboat. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
In this diagram here of the wheels, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
he was looking for a light wheel, so he designed a tensioned wheel | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
which actually is what's used in bicycles today. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
So he designed the bicycle wheel. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
-So a real English polymath. -A real English polymath. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Now, I really am a layman, but even I can see that this diagram here, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
which has helpfully been dated 1804, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
-that's 100 years... -100 years before the Wright Brothers. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
..before the Wright Brothers. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Even I can see that's a prototype aeroplane. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
We have wings at the front here and a tail plane at the back. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
The Wright Brothers actually got into aviation through flying models | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
that were based on Cayley's designs | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and they have acknowledged this in their writing. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
So, Sir George Cayley - a little-known Yorkshireman - | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
is the father of aerodynamics and aeronautical science. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
Tell me, what about powering these aeroplanes? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
I mean, he was gliding, which is clearly a major step forward. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
But, as I understand it, in order to take flying forward, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
you must have some way of powering yourself... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
-He understood... -..through the air. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
He understood that you needed lift from the wings | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
to counterbalance the weight | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and you needed thrust to counterbalance the drag. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
If you look at this diagram down here, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
here you see an aircraft with the wings to lift it. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
The propulsion, which are flapping wings, as he called them, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
and they are powered by this engine, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
which was an internal combustion engine | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
that he designed to run on gunpowder. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Now, clearly, he never built it but the concept is there. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
And an undercarriage, so that is an aircraft as we would recognise today. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
When would he have drawn this? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
This was in 1848, towards the end of his life. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Can you tell me why they're here at Farnborough now? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
Well, yes, I'm a trustee of the Royal Aeronautical Society | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
and about 100 yards from here | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
in one of the other historic buildings, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
you've got the National Aerospace Library, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
and this is an example of some of the treasures we have in that library. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
This little remark caught my eyes. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
George Cayley writes, "You, to whom it may concern when I am gone, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:49 | |
"may find the seeds of thought in these scrawls." | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
-Never a truer word. -That's perfect, isn't it? | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
And so these are going to have very considerable value. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
I can quite easily see these making £30,000 or £40,000 at auction, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:04 | |
possibly very considerably more. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Well, they're going to remain safe | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
in the National Aerospace Library, Justin. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Now, whilst flowers like lilies | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
are sometimes associated with mourning, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
do you think that this originally was used as some mourning jewel? | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
-Because I don't, do you? -No. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
I can only tell you it was a 21st birthday present. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
-Oh, right, OK. -In 1909. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Which is about the right period for it. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
Where do you think it comes from? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Well, I don't know. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
I know my grandparents used to go to France quite often. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
That would be right. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
I think it's turn of the century, so we're looking at 1900-1910. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
In other words, 1909 would be absolutely perfect. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
And I think it's a prime example of the Art Nouveau theme. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
It is that typical, naturalistic Nouveau look | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
that was all the rage at the start of the 20th century in France. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
It is enamelled all over the surface, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
it's got these charming natural pearls | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and it's got the detailing - | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
diamond chips going down the front. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Most importantly, it's in absolutely terrific condition. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:22 | |
Because when these get damaged, when they chip, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
they lose an enormous amount of value. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
When they have all the components in place | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
and it's as prime as this, it adds to the value. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
I think if such a piece of jewellery | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
in that condition came up at auction, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
£2,000-£2,500. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
That's very nice, but it has to go to my daughter. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
-It's a 21st birthday... -Well, that's a nice thing to hear, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
but bear in mind, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
the value will keep on rising. It's a great piece. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
-I'm delighted to hear it. Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
This is a letter from my uncle, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
who was a sergeant major in the Grenadier Guards, 1914, in France. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
He was actually a witness to the Christmas Day truce | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
and the football match which we understand took place | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
and we know it did because it's mentioned in his letter. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
-In this letter? -In this letter. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
It's a pencil-written letter. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Most of these letters home were written in pencil. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
Oh, I see here, it says that he's buried 69 men, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
"And then the next thing happened - | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
"a football kicked out of our trenches | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
"and German and English played football. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
"Night came and still no shots. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
"Boxing Day the same, and has remained so up till now." | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
-Isn't that astonishing? -Yes. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
This man was a witness to that now very famous event. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
-Exactly. -It's down in history, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
that event, you know, and he witnessed it. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
And was disputed that it ever took place for a long time, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
by the powers that be. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
I find that astonishing, actually. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
It's an incredibly historically important letter, this, I think. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
And, actually, letters like this | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
often have very little value outside the family. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
-Sure. -But in this instance, actually, I think it does have a value. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
I think a collector of First World War memorabilia | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
-could easily pay £150 for it. -Really? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
Maybe even more because it mentions that event. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
-Yes, yes. -Very rare. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Yeah, yeah, well, it needs to be preserved for posterity. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
Do you know, there's hardly a day in my life | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
when I don't use my pocket knife. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
It's a fabulously useful object | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
but it's by no means a new invention. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
And just in case we were thinking how old pocket knives are, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
what about this one? Because this is a Roman pocket knife. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
It's 2,000 years old. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
How do you happen to have a 2,000-year-old pocket knife? | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
My father was a metal detectorist | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
and he used to go out quite often | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
and bring in coins and all sorts and he found that. | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
It was given to me when he died | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and we went to the British Museum and found one in the British Museum, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
so that's how I know more or less what it is and brought it in today. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
Well, it's a fabulous little item. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
For one thing it really takes you back to a point | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
where some chap, maybe a legionnaire, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
was sitting there, unfolding this knife, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
even picking his finger nails with it. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
What it is, is a stylised dog chasing what appears to be a hare | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
and this is a very common theme in Roman pocket knives, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
you'll often see these kind of chase scenes. It's made of bronze. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
The iron blade, which is now very badly corroded, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
is just nestling in the bottom there. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Now, your father, obviously as a metal detectorist, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
probably was quite pleased to find this | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
and I'm sure he reported it to his local finds officer, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
which is a very important thing you must do | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
with objects you find with a metal detector. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
But, strangely enough, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
being old doesn't necessarily make you really valuable. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
For an object like this, what are we looking at? Probably £200-£300. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:05 | |
-Oh, right. -Maybe a little bit more than you anticipated. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
More than, yeah, definitely, definitely. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
In sentimental terms it's worth a great deal more to you. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Yes, definitely, it is. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
This extraordinary document is Florence Nightingale's passport | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
but she's not mentioned on this document here. Why is that? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
No, she's not, because the passport is a collective passport | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
for the first group of nurses, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
with Florence as the lady Superintendent, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
to take them out to the scene of the Crimean War. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
And she didn't have a passport, or they had a collective passport, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
-because they were women, so not thought worthy of a passport? -Yeah. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
Now, it's fascinating to see this, | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
because when she went out to the Crimean War in the 1850s, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
she was not - she and her nurses - were not particularly welcomed | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
by the Army medical establishment, were they? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
No, they weren't, they were looked on as interfering busybodies, really, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
and when they arrived on November 4th 1854, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
the Army really said, "Well, we haven't asked for you to come out." | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
They'd been sent out from England | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
and, as you say, they weren't welcomed at all. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
What Florence Nightingale proved was that so many men were dying, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
not from their injuries, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
but from infection and disease that followed the injuries | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
that were incurred as a result of their stay in the hospital | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
and that really put people's backs up, didn't it, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
-amongst the medical establishment? -Yes. It did. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
20,000 dead of the British Army, only 1,600 to enemy action. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
All the rest were disease and infection, mainly bowel diseases. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
-She made a remarkable difference, didn't she? -Yes, she did. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
It really...it took them away from the untrained medical orderly | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
to the caring nurse, which of course still goes on today. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
Now what about this sash? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
This is Scutari Hospital which is where she and her nurses worked. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
Yes, Scutari Hospital, in Constantinople | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
was where Lord Raglan said his hospital base was going to be. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
And of course they needed to identify these nurses | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
from all the other ladies that were there in this old, barren hospital. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
Providing a different comfort? | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
Providing a different sort of comfort, yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
And of course there were widows there, some of the wives still there. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
So it identified them as the nurses | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
for when they wanted to get access to the wards. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
And so when people talk about Florence Nightingale - | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
The Lady With The Lamp - | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
she would be, I mean, is this a truthful image? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
They wouldn't allow any nurses on the wards at night - | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
they said it wasn't a fit place - | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
except her, to look at her sick and her wounded soldiers. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Well, these are a testament to a remarkable woman, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
whose reforms we still feel the benefit of today. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes, absolutely. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
It's so lovely to see such a wonderful collection | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
of China-trade silver. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Now, have you actually collected this yourself or...? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
No, it's all come to me through the family. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Right. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
My mother's family lived in China for three generations. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Wow! | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
And it's silver that they collected while they lived there | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
and this is what has come down to me. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
There were four sisters, my grandmother being one, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
so I've had the items that came from her. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
So this is a quarter of the collection? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Presumably, yes. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
So whereabouts were they in China? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
-In Shanghai. -Ah, that's lovely to know | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
because of course once the Chinese realised | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
that Europeans loved silver, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
they started to make specifically for the European market | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
and you can see this lovely sort of fusion of the two ideas. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
So, with this mug... | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
I mean, nothing could be more English than a mug. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
Christening mug. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
It's got my grandmother's initials and the date of her birth, | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
-the year of her birth. -Oh, that's super! | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
Well, of course, entirely Chinese decoration on it, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
and they actually did develop a marking system | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
which, of course, we can see just there. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
And, in this case, you've got both straightforward initials | 0:35:02 | 0:35:08 | |
but you've also got the guy's name in Chinese characters. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
So I would tend to assume the pieces were from Shanghai. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
And you think of a tea service - tea being very Chinese - | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
but the concept of a three-piece tea set isn't at all Chinese! | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
The picture frame there. Those are very sought-after today. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
-Are they? -Yes, people really like those. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
The trade itself, of course, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
started to develop because of the people arriving to do business - | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
the shippers, the diplomats - | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
and there were the great China-trade ports - | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Hong Kong, Shanghai and Canton. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
And, of course, as your family were from Shanghai, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
well, there's no prizes for guessing where these pieces should be from. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
And the vast majority of these, we are looking at | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
the latter part of the 19th century. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
So, I mean, a mug like this... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-that on its own would easily be £500. -Really? | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
And, similarly, the picture frame, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-that's going to be £600-£700 quite easily. -Really?! | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
And if you start totting this little lot up, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:24 | |
I think you wouldn't get much change out of 10,000 | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
for what is actually on the table. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
Goodness! Wow, I'd better take care of it then! | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
-Look after it. -Well, thank you very much. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
It's a great sign of the times | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
when the BBC are creating memorabilia | 0:36:41 | 0:36:44 | |
that appears on The Antiques Roadshow. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Here we have a letter from the chief BBC announcer, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
the famous John Snagge, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
who was on the radio on a daily basis, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
pre, during and after the war. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
And it's written to a "Dear Frank". | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
-Who's he? -Frank Phillips was my father. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
He was a BBC newsreader during the war | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and this letter is from John Snagge, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
enclosing quite an important script | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
that he read on the morning of 6th June 1944. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
-That being D Day. -D Day. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Well, that's an amazing archive find | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
and so kind of him to give it back to your dad. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:22 | |
So we've got four pages here, in script, not typed. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
That's quite strange, isn't it? | 0:37:26 | 0:37:27 | |
I mean, I would have thought it would have been typed | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
before being read out. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Well, my understanding, from reading John Snagge's letter to my father, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
is that it was regarded as too confidential, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
because it was essentially announcing D Day, to entrust to any typist. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:44 | |
And real men didn't type in those days | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
and so it's a hand-written script. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
And it was such a secret, wasn't it? I mean, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
had the enemy had any inkling | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
that we were heading towards Normandy rather than somewhere else, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
it could have been a completely different outcome. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
Absolutely, yes. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
So he must have been full of trepidation about the day, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
this important... | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
And it says, "From the BBC in Great Britain, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
"we are sounding the alert | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
"for the countries on the coastline | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
"of Western Europe occupied by the enemy". | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
Also, let alone the John Snagge, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
there's, I think, a copy of a really important document | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
which is signed by Winston Churchill and Eisenhower. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
That's right. My understanding is that is the communique | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
that my father was trailing, if you like, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
and that John Snagge read the communique itself, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
and I think it says here that it was signed by those two | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
and given to John Snagge because he read that particular communique. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
So I'm not sure that his generosity | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
extended to passing on the original signed communique. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
And I think what's also very evocative is... | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
Obviously, during the war, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
the radio was such an important part of society, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
both here in the UK and presumably across Europe. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
As an example here, we've a letter addressed to your dad from Holland, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
and it goes on about how important it is for him. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
"Here is one out of the multitude of listeners | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
"to your famous transmissions | 0:39:14 | 0:39:15 | |
"during the five long years of enemy occupation." | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
And it goes on to say how important it was in his life. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
It was indeed, yes. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
And, in fact, that particular individual | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
named his son after my father, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
his first two Christian names are Frank Phillip. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
-Well, you can't get a better accolade than that, can you? -No. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
My goodness, what's it worth? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
That day was the turning point of the war, wasn't it? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
And an amazingly important transmission. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
It's unique, one's never been sold before. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
I'm sort of thinking about a figure of maybe... | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
certainly a couple of thousand pounds. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
-Fine, well, I'm not selling it any time soon. -I'm glad to hear it. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
Well, my first question is, what nationality do you suppose he is? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
That's a question I've wondered. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
-He's got a turban. -Yeah. -So he looks, could be Indian, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
but he's got a feather in it, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
so he might be sort of Arabian Nights type of thing? | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
OK, well, I'm going to suggest he might be Turkish. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:16 | |
Right. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:17 | |
And do you know anything about him? | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
Nothing apart from it used to belong to my grandmother | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
and I don't know where and how and when she got it. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
I mean, he's got some age, and he's got some dents and scratches... | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
-He has, yes. -..and chips. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:31 | |
And dents and scratches do rather affect this material. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
This material is known as Delftware, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
which is a earthenware covered in a skin of white glaze | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
-which is then - in this case - decorated in blue. -Right. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
To the untrained eye, this looks like porcelain, | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
because we associate blue and white with porcelain. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
And that's actually what these potters were trying to achieve, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
they were competing with China. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
But there's a reason for him being a Turk and the clue is here. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
Have you worked out what these are for - these holes? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
Well, they look as if they should have flowers in them | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
but it's a rather peculiar flower vase | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
that's got a head in the middle of it. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
OK, now, let's just put all of that together. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
So, he is a Turk, but he's made in Delftware | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
and in fact Delftware is, of course, Dutch, generally speaking. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Right. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
What flowers would you associate with Delft or Holland? | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
Tulips. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
Tulips, and we've got there, because tulips were developed by Turks. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
-Oh! -So it's entirely appropriate that a vase intended for tulips | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
should be modelled in the form of a Turk, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
and tulips were extremely popular in the 1620s-30s, | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
there was a tulip mania. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -But ever since then, vases like this have been made. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
You can go out and buy them in the shops in Holland today | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
and you can buy them and they generally have a maker's mark - | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
such as this one on the back - | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
imitating the early Delftware pieces. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
Now, the question is, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
is this an early Delftware piece | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
or is it one of the many, many, many copies. We see lots and lots. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
It's quite difficult sometimes to make up one's mind. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
I'm sure you would like it to be an original | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
and I would love to be able to tell you that it was an original. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
-However... -17th-century would be nice. -..it looks too good to be true | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
and looking in the bottom there, there's a sort of nice rough patch. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
There's not a great deal of wear. Is he a copy? | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
As a copy, this is worth somewhere in the region of £500-£1,000. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
-Really? -Yeah. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
Ah, fabulous, well. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Perhaps I like him a bit more now. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
-You do? -Yes. -Um... | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
Actually, I don't think it is a copy. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
So we'll bump it up a bit. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:53 | |
Shall we say somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000? | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
No! I wasn't going to do the gasp, but I've gasped! | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
Hmm. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
Well, I think it's fair to say, another satisfied customer. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
From The Antiques Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
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