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This week's Roadshow venue wouldn't win any beauty contests

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but it's what helped Britain conquer the skies.

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Whoa!

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Look at the size of that!

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In here, our best boffins tested the designs of, among other things,

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the Spitfire, the Hurricane, parachutes.

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It's quite a story.

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Welcome to The Antiques Roadshow

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from Farnborough Wind Tunnels, in Hampshire.

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Farnborough Wind Tunnels borders Farnborough Aerodrome.

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This is where the history of British aviation -

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from kite flying, ballooning, gliding

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and then powered flight - really took off

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in the early 20th century.

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What was known as the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough

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pioneered our jet engine industry.

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The development of the Hurricane, the Harrier Jump Jet,

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the perfect delta wing of the Concorde...

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and yet, this historic site could have been lost to us for ever.

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The whole area was being sold off

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by the Ministry of Defence in the early 1990s,

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when a former RAF fighter pilot, working nearby,

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wondered what was shaking the foundations of his office.

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He stumbled across one of the wind tunnels

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carrying out its final test before decommissioning.

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Findlay Gordon decided the site was worth saving

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and with friends, colleagues and councillors,

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launched a charity - The Farnborough Air Sciences Trust, or FAST.

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Together they set out to save the dusty remains of design models,

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prototype engines,

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buildings, from the scrap heap,

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to save a crucial part of Britain's aviation history.

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Facing down the MOD,

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they spear-headed a campaign to save this -

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the oldest wind tunnel building in the UK, built originally in 1916.

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Nothing sums up the achievement of that group better

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than this incredible piece of design and technology built in 1935.

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The laminated mahogany propellers are 24 foot long.

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The space is so huge that full-size aircraft were tested here.

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It took three years for the plucky band to win through

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and secure the future of these buildings

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by getting a heritage listing,

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and they also rescued hundreds of thousands of objects and images.

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The wind tunnels are decommissioned now,

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but I'm told they can be operational

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if they're plugged into the national grid.

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Today they can be admired on occasional open days,

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so we're delighted to bring a large crowd

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to today's show to admire them.

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And, by the way, today's volunteers helping our visitors,

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are members of FAST who saved this whole site.

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-You need to go to the shed.

-Hiya.

-Morning!

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A fabulous Victorian shell house.

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-Yes.

-Where did you get it from?

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Well, there was a second-hand furniture dealer in Aldershot

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and there's an old guy there reminded me very much of Charlie Chaplin,

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used to wear - a little chap - a bowler hat,

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we brought it home, and we've had it ever since.

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And where has it been for all those years?

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On wardrobes, top of cupboards,

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it's always been on a shelf somewhere.

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And you love it?

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Oh, yes, yes.

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What I love about it is the amazing detail.

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You've got this fabulous peacock there and the gentleman,

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and all these different shells which would have been imported.

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-Yes, yes.

-What did you think about it?

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Do you remember it growing up?

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I do, me and my brother used to spend hours just...

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I used to spend hours with my face pressed up against the glass,

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trying to see all the little detail of it,

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because if you look in the windows, it's all completely furnished

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and there's children playing in the front room and it's just amazing.

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My favourite is the little old woman just coming out of the door,

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with her shawl on.

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-And she's feeding the chickens.

-Yes.

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-And the little pussycat chasing the mouse.

-Yes.

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-Yes, yes.

-I mean, that's just beautiful.

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And it would have been made about 1850 or 1860,

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-it's quite early Victorian.

-Yes, yes.

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Of course, the Victorians were very keen on worthwhile pastimes

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and I could see possibly the man of the house

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actually making the house itself,

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and then a woman putting all these shells on,

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and it would have taken months to do.

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Have you ever seen any like this before, or...?

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This is one of the most detailed ones I've seen.

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I've seen shell houses before,

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they were that sort of early Victorian period.

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They started in the 18th century

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but the early Victorian period they were very popular.

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-I know you've got a glass dome for it too which keeps it...

-Yes.

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-It's in beautiful condition.

-Yes.

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I would say, if this came up for auction,

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you'd put an estimate of £800-£1,200.

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-Really?

-But I could see it, I could see it selling for more than that

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because it really is sensational.

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Oh! Thank you very much.

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-There you go. Happy?

-Oh, yes.

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I love this picture. I mean, it's so Impressionist

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and that's what, I think, makes it attractive.

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So do you think this is French?

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No, I think it's German because on the signature it says "Berlin '87".

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Quite right, 1887 that would be,

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and you can see the signature above.

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"JUL" - Jul for Julius,

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and then Jacob or "Ya-cob". J-A-C-O-B.

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And he's a minor artist, born in 1842,

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died in 1929.

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That's literally all the facts we have about the artist.

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But I assume, as it's inscribed "Berlin",

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that he lived and worked in that region.

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Doesn't always follow that, of course,

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because many artists studied abroad so, you know,

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you could have Norwegians, for instance,

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-where I believe you may originate from...

-Yes, I do.

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..that studied in Dusseldorf,

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so you often see a picture by a Norwegian artist signed "Dusseldorf"

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-but that's just by-the-by.

-OK.

-Did you buy this picture or inherit it?

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No, I inherited it from my grandparents.

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-Right.

-It was bought in Norway

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from a very posh arts shop,

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by my grandfather, but I don't know any more about it.

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There's a big connection between Norway and Germany.

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Right.

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And so there was a lot of artists from Germany painting in Norway

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-and vice versa.

-Right.

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And I love this picture,

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but it is very much a sort of typical Impressionist style.

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This was just after the real sort of true Impressionist period in France,

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in the 1870s, so the influence of Impressionism

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is creeping across Europe,

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and you can see with these beautiful broad strokes of the clouds

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and this idyllic landscape here in front of us.

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I think it's just beautiful.

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Well, I mean there is always a good market for German art

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but if it had been French -

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been by a French Impressionist such as Monet -

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ooh, we'd be talking about a lot of money, wouldn't we?

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For this size, two or three million,

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but being German, I would say we're probably looking at

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-something in the region of £3,000-£5,000.

-Right. OK.

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-Not too bad?

-No, very good.

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Reading, writing and arithmetic

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are still obviously part of the national curriculum,

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-but here we've got an 18th-century book on penmanship.

-Right.

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The art of lettering, calligraphy.

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-Right.

-Can you tell me, where did you get it from?

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Well, there was... where I worked there was a gardener

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and he used to be given material

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and things that weren't wanted to burn on a bonfire

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and I used to chat to him,

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so he very kindly said,

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"Oh, if there's anything that interests you, I'll keep it."

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And he gave me that and of course I was delighted, couldn't believe it.

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-Yes.

-So lovely.

-It is, it's a charming book.

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I mean, it is a lovely book. It still gives me a bit of a thrill.

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-And it's typical sort of 18th-century binding as well.

-Yes.

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And we've got the name of the calligrapher,

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the person who wrote it, here, it's "John Lewis..."

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and "..is the true owner of this book,

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-"written in the year of our Lord God 1734"

-Yes.

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-What I hadn't realised when I opened it...

-Yes?

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..it's actually an alphabet.

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Oh, yes, because it's quite difficult to decipher the initial letters.

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The initial letters, absolutely,

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the initial letter of each page is in alphabetical order.

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-Oh, wonderful, yes.

-And so here, on the first page,

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is a capital A and it reads -

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I've just managed to decipher it - "A wise man will..."

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and then it gets rather tricky, actually!

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-But that's the A, the capital A.

-Oh, right, yes.

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And then if we go a bit further on,

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-this one is a "C" for contentment.

-Yes.

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"Makes a man happy without a fortune."

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And again he's signed it, "John Lewis 1734".

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This coincides with a book that was published

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-by a chap called George Bickham.

-Oh.

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Who published a book called "The Universal Penman"

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which is the classic calligraphy book.

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-Yes.

-And I have a suspicion that

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young John Lewis possibly had a copy of Bickham in front of him

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and was either copying it, or imitating it.

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-Yes, yes, yes.

-If we go a bit further on...

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that I think is a "G", although it's terribly complicated.

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-Yes.

-But it does work out as being a G.

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He was quite good at it, wasn't he?

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Oh, he was very good, very competent, absolutely.

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It's so...it's exciting to have it.

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I mean, I enjoy looking at the way he sort of developed it.

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Some of the styles are different, aren't they?

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Yes, indeed, we've got some sort of old...

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-what one might call more Gothic script.

-Yes.

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-And then there's the sort of typically...

-Little head.

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These lovely decorations as well.

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-Yes, yes.

-Absolutely charming and it's worth money, actually.

-Really?

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I think if you... if it came up for auction,

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-it would make somewhere between £300-£500.

-Really?

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-I'm amazed at that!

-It's charming.

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I thought, being a sort of one-off thing, it wouldn't.

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Well, that's what makes it so interesting, it is one-off.

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-It's lovely, thank you.

-Oh, well, thank you. That's very, very helpful.

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This is called a cap tally.

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It goes around the cap of a naval man, a sailor.

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I thought it went round the arm.

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No, it's around the cap and it says "HMS Hood".

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That's a very famous ship.

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Now, why do you have this?

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Well, my great-grandad was on the Hood when it sank.

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He was a boatswain.

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-A very important job.

-Yes.

-And these are his medals?

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-Yes.

-So of course he would never have got to wear them, would he?

-No.

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You've brought this album, tell me what's in the album.

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Well, in the album are the pictures he took

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before he had to fight against the Bismarck.

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And if we go onto this page... there's a picture of him in here.

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That's him, that's your great-grandfather?

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-Yes.

-In uniform.

-Yes.

-Now, the interesting thing about that

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is that he's wearing a cap tally that says "Submarine" on it,

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so there's a reason for that -

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whether he did serve in submarines at some point, I don't know.

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Now, the interesting point about this cap tally is,

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during the Second World War, because of the danger of spying,

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the ship's name was taken off the cap tally,

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so it only said "HMS" so you couldn't identify...

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If you saw a sailor in a port,

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you couldn't identify which ship he was from.

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-I see.

-Had to keep secrets during the war.

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Now, do you know the history of the sinking of the Hood?

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-Yes.

-Do you know how it was destroyed?

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-Yes.

-What do you know about that?

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Well, I believe it was hit in the decking by the Bismarck.

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Well, there was a great battle that took place

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because the Bismarck was the pride of the German navy

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and it was thought to be the greatest battleship ever built

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and almost indestructible.

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And we, the British, desperately wanted to sink the Bismarck

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and we sent several ships to hunt for the Bismarck

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and the Hood was one of those ships.

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Now, HMS Hood was one of the greatest battleships

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we've ever built in this country.

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It was regarded as the pride of the British Navy

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and right at the beginning of the battle,

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the Bismarck sent several salvos - several shots -

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towards the Hood and one of them went into the Hood

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and probably exploded the magazine - all the ammunition.

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And the explosion was almost instantaneous

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and the ship just exploded into thousands of pieces.

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It was a terrible explosion

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and over 1,000 men died on that ship,

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including your great-grandfather.

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What do you think of him?

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I think of him as a very powerful man.

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He must have been very brave to fight for his country

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and important to be chosen for the Navy.

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But you've got other photographs here too.

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Well, that is him sitting on the Hood.

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This is actually on the Hood itself?

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Yes.

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That's a great photo.

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I know you're not interested in the value - I'm sure you're not -

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-but collectors do pay lots of money for this sort of thing.

-Yes.

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And there's a very interesting story behind it,

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so I think the medals, the cap tally

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and all these photographs are probably going to be worth

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something in the region of £800-£1,200.

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Well, I'll tell my grandad that.

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Now, don't get confused, this isn't Gardeners' World,

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this is The Antiques Roadshow

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and it's really interesting to see some garden pieces

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on The Antiques Roadshow for a change.

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I love the way they've been beautifully weathered.

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Well, I think they're very old.

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-How old?

-Well, they've been in my family for as long as I can remember.

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And what else can you tell me about them?

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Well, I don't know where they came from,

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but my parents thought they were worth quite a lot of money

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and I went to the Watts Gallery a few years ago

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and I spotted the pots there and I came home and said to my husband,

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-"I've seen my pots at the Watts Gallery."

-Bingo!

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And I saw another one in Godalming Museum on another occasion

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and that's all I know about them,

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so I can only assume they're Watts pots.

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It was Mary Watts who actually started the business down in Compton

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and they're a Scottish family

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and her husband, George F Watts,

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he was a famous artist

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and she had time on her hands

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-and so she started this business of making pottery.

-Yes.

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And they were digging the local clay - this red clay -

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and this is the latter part of the Victorian period

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and red clay was highly fashionable

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-and these were actually moulded, it's a moulded cast.

-Yes.

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And she was selling to the top garden designers.

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She was selling to Gertrude Jekyll, Lutyens and Liberty in London.

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-They were selling these pots.

-All the best names.

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-Exactly, the top names, especially Gertrude Jekyll.

-Yes.

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And in the Jekyll gardens you will see them on a ledge.

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-Oh, right.

-Because they normally put them on a ledge.

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Well, actually, they are...

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The part of the garden they're on is raised up,

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so from the house they are raised.

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-Well, that's aesthetically how they should be shown.

-Oh, right.

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-Right, so we've got to get down to values.

-Yes.

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Now, these are one of the few items where you can sell these singly

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and they're still quite valuable.

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I think you've got to look at between £1,500 and £2,000 a pot.

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They're marvellous!

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Oh, great. Thank you.

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So you were doing a house clearance?

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-Yes.

-And...?

-My parents' house.

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And somebody came along and offered you how much?

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-£2,500.

-For this?

-Yes.

-OK.

-It started off lower than that,

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then gradually crept up throughout the afternoon.

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So you were bargaining?

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-No, I told him it was not for sale.

-It wasn't for sale.

-Never.

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So you turned down £2,500. You've also brought this painting along.

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-Yes.

-Before I tell you whether you made the right or wrong decision,

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I'm going to ask Mark to tell us more about your painting

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because that really looks lovely.

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Well, it is lovely and it's the most beautiful view of Hammersmith.

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-Yeah.

-In London.

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And it's by EC Williams - Edward Charles Williams -

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one of the great painters of Victorian England,

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born in 1807 and died in 1881.

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He was part of a huge family of landscape and town painters,

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the Williams family, but I've always thought that EC

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was one of the better ones.

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And what I love about it is the sort of nice early depiction of London

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and you can see it's before The Embankment was built

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and you've got the old Hammersmith Bridge, so it's beautiful.

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Do you live near there or...?

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-Yes, we used to, we were in Earls Court.

-Oh, not far away at all.

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-No.

-And you journeyed over this bridge?

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I journeyed over the bridge, yes,

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and I journeyed along The Embankment.

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I used to work in the East End, so went back and forth frequently.

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So let's say you wanted to raise £2,500.

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Well, I think I could do better for this.

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I think this little picture's worth £3,000-£5,000 on today's market.

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Really? I would never sell it.

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-Oh!

-Sorry!

-After all that!

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After all that, I would never sell it, no, I love it.

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No, you must keep it, because it's really lovely and I'm very envious.

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-Thank you.

-So, Lars, what about you?

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So you're going to sell the jar instead, is that right?

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-No, I'm not selling anything.

-We're not doing very well.

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-Not doing very well, are we?

-Let's have a look.

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I'll tell you a bit about the jar. Do you know anything about it?

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No, not a lot. I think it was in my grandparents' house.

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It's one of those things that's been part of the family

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-for as long as I can remember.

-OK.

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This is a very, very bold, unusually bold mark,

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for a piece of Chinese porcelain. You've got six characters.

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Great Qing dynasty, Kangxi. Year made.

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Kangxi is the clue here.

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This is an emperor who reigned from 1662 to 1722

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and almost every Kangxi mark that one sees is wrong.

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And it's very, very bold as well.

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What is nice about this,

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is this wonderful imperial lemon yellow enamel glaze

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you've got on here, so that is supposed to be reserved for -

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that particular colour - is reserved for the Emperor and nobody else.

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-Oh, quite right!

-So at £2,500, actually, I would say take it,

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if this were a copy of the Kangxi period,

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then £2,500 is an extremely generous offer.

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-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

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However, it is actually of the period it says,

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so it's probably worth between £5,000 and £10,000.

0:19:460:19:49

LAUGHTER

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How fantastic!

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Oh, I'm so pleased I didn't.

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It's very lucky he wasn't calling at your door!

0:19:550:19:57

Oh, I'm delighted. I love this. I love this vase.

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Again, it's not for sale.

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I love this piece of furniture

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and I've watched Antiques Roadshow for many years,

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but I've lived in South Africa

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and haven't been able to get to The Antiques Roadshow.

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And we came to Surrey last year and I looked on the website

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and I saw you were in Farnborough.

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I thought, well, this piece of furniture I'd love to bring.

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This is one of my loves. It's campaign furniture,

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which is basically military furniture

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made for high-ranking officers

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at literally the top level.

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And its construction is what I love about it.

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It's made of best mahogany but all this comes apart -

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it's the early flat-pack furniture, basically.

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It would all be stored in little boxes

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and it's just unbelievable to find furniture like this.

0:20:460:20:49

A few years ago, this would have been sold as a shelf

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and no-one would have realised. In the last few years,

0:20:510:20:54

people have really taken military furniture seriously.

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But it needs to have a history.

0:20:570:20:59

Have you got any history within the family?

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Well, yes, we do.

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My grandfather's great-grandfather was Sir John Hindmarsh

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and he was born in 1785,

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I think, and died in 1860

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and he fought in seven battles.

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He was a naval officer

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and he then became the first governor of South Australia.

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And have you worked out which battles he was in,

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before we get onto Australia, or...?

0:21:220:21:23

Yeah, quite a number of them - the Nile, Trafalgar, um...

0:21:230:21:28

OK, that's pretty impressive!

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Yeah, and there apparently is a letter, which I haven't seen,

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but a letter from Nelson

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which appointed him to the ship for Trafalgar

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and which is part of the family history.

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So this was in my grandparents' house

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and I have assumed that it belonged to him

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but because I didn't know how old it was...

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It's bang on that date.

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I mean 1830-1860, it wouldn't have changed much in style.

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I would say this is around 1830-1840.

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I mean, you can only imagine what this piece of furniture has seen,

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-which is why I love campaign furniture.

-Yes.

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The battles this could have been in!

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Pieces like this, say in the Battle of Trafalgar or the Nile,

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they were all flat-packed

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and put into one of the boats and towed behind the ships.

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Because one of the biggest causes of death was splinters.

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So you didn't want pieces - cannonballs coming through,

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all this being shattered. So they used to pack it all away.

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That's another reason for the flat-packing.

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Such a brilliant system.

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And these aren't right.

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-Oh, they're not?

-No, the finials, these are later.

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-You wouldn't have things like this.

-I wondered because they do look odd.

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Exactly, and they would just have a manly finial,

0:22:370:22:39

-a very small finial on top.

-A manly one, yeah, I like that.

0:22:390:22:42

-And all this would go.

-It does, it does.

-Pack down and it's brilliant.

0:22:420:22:45

-Pack right down.

-And the condition - it needs a little bit of work.

0:22:450:22:48

-I would get this repaired, tidied up and polished.

-Yeah.

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But find out that history.

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If you can tie anything to a letter or an order,

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go through any of the old paperwork, it makes a difference.

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As it stands, as a nice piece of campaign furniture,

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it would be £600 to £800.

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If you can tie it to the battles,

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then it goes up to sort of £2,000 to £3,000 -

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makes quite a big difference.

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Provenance is so important with this stuff. Thanks very much.

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-Thank you very much. Really interesting, thanks.

-It's great fun.

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These are the notebooks of Sir George Cayley,

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who was born in Yorkshire in 1777

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and by 1800 he had formulated the theory of flight

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and he understood the forces

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that act on what we would call an aeroplane today.

0:23:340:23:37

He designed the caterpillar track which was used on, you know,

0:23:370:23:40

large earth-moving equipment and military vehicles.

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He designed the self-righting lifeboat.

0:23:430:23:45

In this diagram here of the wheels,

0:23:450:23:48

he was looking for a light wheel, so he designed a tensioned wheel

0:23:480:23:51

which actually is what's used in bicycles today.

0:23:510:23:54

So he designed the bicycle wheel.

0:23:540:23:56

-So a real English polymath.

-A real English polymath.

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Now, I really am a layman, but even I can see that this diagram here,

0:23:590:24:02

which has helpfully been dated 1804,

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-that's 100 years...

-100 years before the Wright Brothers.

0:24:060:24:08

..before the Wright Brothers.

0:24:080:24:10

Even I can see that's a prototype aeroplane.

0:24:100:24:12

We have wings at the front here and a tail plane at the back.

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The Wright Brothers actually got into aviation through flying models

0:24:160:24:20

that were based on Cayley's designs

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and they have acknowledged this in their writing.

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So, Sir George Cayley - a little-known Yorkshireman -

0:24:260:24:30

is the father of aerodynamics and aeronautical science.

0:24:300:24:34

Tell me, what about powering these aeroplanes?

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I mean, he was gliding, which is clearly a major step forward.

0:24:370:24:41

But, as I understand it, in order to take flying forward,

0:24:410:24:43

you must have some way of powering yourself...

0:24:430:24:46

-He understood...

-..through the air.

0:24:460:24:48

He understood that you needed lift from the wings

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to counterbalance the weight

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and you needed thrust to counterbalance the drag.

0:24:520:24:55

If you look at this diagram down here,

0:24:550:24:57

here you see an aircraft with the wings to lift it.

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The propulsion, which are flapping wings, as he called them,

0:25:030:25:06

and they are powered by this engine,

0:25:060:25:09

which was an internal combustion engine

0:25:090:25:11

that he designed to run on gunpowder.

0:25:110:25:13

Now, clearly, he never built it but the concept is there.

0:25:130:25:17

And an undercarriage, so that is an aircraft as we would recognise today.

0:25:170:25:20

When would he have drawn this?

0:25:200:25:22

This was in 1848, towards the end of his life.

0:25:220:25:24

Can you tell me why they're here at Farnborough now?

0:25:240:25:27

Well, yes, I'm a trustee of the Royal Aeronautical Society

0:25:270:25:31

and about 100 yards from here

0:25:310:25:32

in one of the other historic buildings,

0:25:320:25:34

you've got the National Aerospace Library,

0:25:340:25:37

and this is an example of some of the treasures we have in that library.

0:25:370:25:41

This little remark caught my eyes.

0:25:410:25:43

George Cayley writes, "You, to whom it may concern when I am gone,

0:25:440:25:49

"may find the seeds of thought in these scrawls."

0:25:490:25:53

-Never a truer word.

-That's perfect, isn't it?

0:25:530:25:55

And so these are going to have very considerable value.

0:25:550:25:58

I can quite easily see these making £30,000 or £40,000 at auction,

0:25:580:26:04

possibly very considerably more.

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Well, they're going to remain safe

0:26:080:26:10

in the National Aerospace Library, Justin.

0:26:100:26:13

Now, whilst flowers like lilies

0:26:170:26:19

are sometimes associated with mourning,

0:26:190:26:23

do you think that this originally was used as some mourning jewel?

0:26:230:26:26

-Because I don't, do you?

-No.

0:26:260:26:28

I can only tell you it was a 21st birthday present.

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-Oh, right, OK.

-In 1909.

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Which is about the right period for it.

0:26:340:26:36

Where do you think it comes from?

0:26:360:26:38

Well, I don't know.

0:26:380:26:40

I know my grandparents used to go to France quite often.

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That would be right.

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I think it's turn of the century, so we're looking at 1900-1910.

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In other words, 1909 would be absolutely perfect.

0:26:480:26:51

And I think it's a prime example of the Art Nouveau theme.

0:26:510:26:55

It is that typical, naturalistic Nouveau look

0:26:550:26:59

that was all the rage at the start of the 20th century in France.

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It is enamelled all over the surface,

0:27:040:27:08

it's got these charming natural pearls

0:27:080:27:12

and it's got the detailing -

0:27:120:27:14

diamond chips going down the front.

0:27:140:27:16

Most importantly, it's in absolutely terrific condition.

0:27:160:27:22

Because when these get damaged, when they chip,

0:27:220:27:25

they lose an enormous amount of value.

0:27:250:27:28

When they have all the components in place

0:27:280:27:31

and it's as prime as this, it adds to the value.

0:27:310:27:33

I think if such a piece of jewellery

0:27:330:27:36

in that condition came up at auction,

0:27:360:27:39

£2,000-£2,500.

0:27:390:27:40

That's very nice, but it has to go to my daughter.

0:27:400:27:44

-It's a 21st birthday...

-Well, that's a nice thing to hear,

0:27:440:27:48

but bear in mind,

0:27:480:27:49

the value will keep on rising. It's a great piece.

0:27:490:27:52

-I'm delighted to hear it. Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

0:27:520:27:56

This is a letter from my uncle,

0:27:570:28:00

who was a sergeant major in the Grenadier Guards, 1914, in France.

0:28:000:28:04

He was actually a witness to the Christmas Day truce

0:28:040:28:08

and the football match which we understand took place

0:28:080:28:11

and we know it did because it's mentioned in his letter.

0:28:110:28:14

-In this letter?

-In this letter.

0:28:140:28:16

It's a pencil-written letter.

0:28:160:28:18

Most of these letters home were written in pencil.

0:28:180:28:21

Oh, I see here, it says that he's buried 69 men,

0:28:210:28:25

"And then the next thing happened -

0:28:250:28:27

"a football kicked out of our trenches

0:28:270:28:30

"and German and English played football.

0:28:300:28:33

"Night came and still no shots.

0:28:330:28:37

"Boxing Day the same, and has remained so up till now."

0:28:370:28:41

-Isn't that astonishing?

-Yes.

0:28:410:28:43

This man was a witness to that now very famous event.

0:28:430:28:48

-Exactly.

-It's down in history,

0:28:480:28:50

that event, you know, and he witnessed it.

0:28:500:28:52

And was disputed that it ever took place for a long time,

0:28:520:28:54

by the powers that be.

0:28:540:28:56

I find that astonishing, actually.

0:28:560:28:58

It's an incredibly historically important letter, this, I think.

0:28:580:29:02

And, actually, letters like this

0:29:020:29:04

often have very little value outside the family.

0:29:040:29:07

-Sure.

-But in this instance, actually, I think it does have a value.

0:29:070:29:10

I think a collector of First World War memorabilia

0:29:100:29:14

-could easily pay £150 for it.

-Really?

0:29:140:29:15

Maybe even more because it mentions that event.

0:29:150:29:18

-Yes, yes.

-Very rare.

0:29:180:29:20

Yeah, yeah, well, it needs to be preserved for posterity.

0:29:200:29:24

Do you know, there's hardly a day in my life

0:29:260:29:28

when I don't use my pocket knife.

0:29:280:29:30

It's a fabulously useful object

0:29:300:29:33

but it's by no means a new invention.

0:29:330:29:35

And just in case we were thinking how old pocket knives are,

0:29:350:29:40

what about this one? Because this is a Roman pocket knife.

0:29:400:29:44

It's 2,000 years old.

0:29:440:29:47

How do you happen to have a 2,000-year-old pocket knife?

0:29:470:29:51

My father was a metal detectorist

0:29:510:29:53

and he used to go out quite often

0:29:530:29:56

and bring in coins and all sorts and he found that.

0:29:560:30:01

It was given to me when he died

0:30:010:30:04

and we went to the British Museum and found one in the British Museum,

0:30:040:30:07

so that's how I know more or less what it is and brought it in today.

0:30:070:30:11

Well, it's a fabulous little item.

0:30:110:30:13

For one thing it really takes you back to a point

0:30:130:30:16

where some chap, maybe a legionnaire,

0:30:160:30:19

was sitting there, unfolding this knife,

0:30:190:30:21

even picking his finger nails with it.

0:30:210:30:24

What it is, is a stylised dog chasing what appears to be a hare

0:30:240:30:29

and this is a very common theme in Roman pocket knives,

0:30:290:30:32

you'll often see these kind of chase scenes. It's made of bronze.

0:30:320:30:36

The iron blade, which is now very badly corroded,

0:30:360:30:39

is just nestling in the bottom there.

0:30:390:30:42

Now, your father, obviously as a metal detectorist,

0:30:420:30:46

probably was quite pleased to find this

0:30:460:30:48

and I'm sure he reported it to his local finds officer,

0:30:480:30:50

which is a very important thing you must do

0:30:500:30:52

with objects you find with a metal detector.

0:30:520:30:55

But, strangely enough,

0:30:550:30:57

being old doesn't necessarily make you really valuable.

0:30:570:31:00

For an object like this, what are we looking at? Probably £200-£300.

0:31:000:31:05

-Oh, right.

-Maybe a little bit more than you anticipated.

0:31:050:31:08

More than, yeah, definitely, definitely.

0:31:080:31:11

In sentimental terms it's worth a great deal more to you.

0:31:110:31:13

Yes, definitely, it is.

0:31:130:31:16

This extraordinary document is Florence Nightingale's passport

0:31:160:31:21

but she's not mentioned on this document here. Why is that?

0:31:210:31:25

No, she's not, because the passport is a collective passport

0:31:250:31:28

for the first group of nurses,

0:31:280:31:31

with Florence as the lady Superintendent,

0:31:310:31:33

to take them out to the scene of the Crimean War.

0:31:330:31:36

And she didn't have a passport, or they had a collective passport,

0:31:360:31:39

-because they were women, so not thought worthy of a passport?

-Yeah.

0:31:390:31:44

Now, it's fascinating to see this,

0:31:440:31:46

because when she went out to the Crimean War in the 1850s,

0:31:460:31:48

she was not - she and her nurses - were not particularly welcomed

0:31:480:31:52

by the Army medical establishment, were they?

0:31:520:31:55

No, they weren't, they were looked on as interfering busybodies, really,

0:31:550:31:59

and when they arrived on November 4th 1854,

0:31:590:32:01

the Army really said, "Well, we haven't asked for you to come out."

0:32:010:32:06

They'd been sent out from England

0:32:060:32:08

and, as you say, they weren't welcomed at all.

0:32:080:32:10

What Florence Nightingale proved was that so many men were dying,

0:32:100:32:13

not from their injuries,

0:32:130:32:15

but from infection and disease that followed the injuries

0:32:150:32:19

that were incurred as a result of their stay in the hospital

0:32:190:32:21

and that really put people's backs up, didn't it,

0:32:210:32:24

-amongst the medical establishment?

-Yes. It did.

0:32:240:32:26

20,000 dead of the British Army, only 1,600 to enemy action.

0:32:260:32:30

All the rest were disease and infection, mainly bowel diseases.

0:32:300:32:34

-She made a remarkable difference, didn't she?

-Yes, she did.

0:32:340:32:38

It really...it took them away from the untrained medical orderly

0:32:380:32:42

to the caring nurse, which of course still goes on today.

0:32:420:32:47

Now what about this sash?

0:32:470:32:49

This is Scutari Hospital which is where she and her nurses worked.

0:32:490:32:52

Yes, Scutari Hospital, in Constantinople

0:32:520:32:54

was where Lord Raglan said his hospital base was going to be.

0:32:540:32:57

And of course they needed to identify these nurses

0:32:570:33:00

from all the other ladies that were there in this old, barren hospital.

0:33:000:33:04

Providing a different comfort?

0:33:040:33:06

Providing a different sort of comfort, yes.

0:33:060:33:08

And of course there were widows there, some of the wives still there.

0:33:080:33:11

So it identified them as the nurses

0:33:110:33:14

for when they wanted to get access to the wards.

0:33:140:33:16

And so when people talk about Florence Nightingale -

0:33:160:33:19

The Lady With The Lamp -

0:33:190:33:20

she would be, I mean, is this a truthful image?

0:33:200:33:23

They wouldn't allow any nurses on the wards at night -

0:33:230:33:25

they said it wasn't a fit place -

0:33:250:33:27

except her, to look at her sick and her wounded soldiers.

0:33:270:33:31

Well, these are a testament to a remarkable woman,

0:33:310:33:34

whose reforms we still feel the benefit of today.

0:33:340:33:36

Yes, absolutely.

0:33:360:33:38

It's so lovely to see such a wonderful collection

0:33:410:33:45

of China-trade silver.

0:33:450:33:48

Now, have you actually collected this yourself or...?

0:33:480:33:50

No, it's all come to me through the family.

0:33:500:33:53

Right.

0:33:530:33:55

My mother's family lived in China for three generations.

0:33:550:33:58

Wow!

0:33:580:33:59

And it's silver that they collected while they lived there

0:33:590:34:03

and this is what has come down to me.

0:34:030:34:06

There were four sisters, my grandmother being one,

0:34:060:34:10

so I've had the items that came from her.

0:34:100:34:13

So this is a quarter of the collection?

0:34:130:34:16

Presumably, yes.

0:34:160:34:18

So whereabouts were they in China?

0:34:180:34:19

-In Shanghai.

-Ah, that's lovely to know

0:34:190:34:23

because of course once the Chinese realised

0:34:230:34:26

that Europeans loved silver,

0:34:260:34:28

they started to make specifically for the European market

0:34:280:34:33

and you can see this lovely sort of fusion of the two ideas.

0:34:330:34:38

So, with this mug...

0:34:380:34:40

I mean, nothing could be more English than a mug.

0:34:400:34:42

Christening mug.

0:34:420:34:44

It's got my grandmother's initials and the date of her birth,

0:34:440:34:47

-the year of her birth.

-Oh, that's super!

0:34:470:34:50

Well, of course, entirely Chinese decoration on it,

0:34:500:34:54

and they actually did develop a marking system

0:34:540:34:59

which, of course, we can see just there.

0:34:590:35:02

And, in this case, you've got both straightforward initials

0:35:020:35:08

but you've also got the guy's name in Chinese characters.

0:35:080:35:13

So I would tend to assume the pieces were from Shanghai.

0:35:130:35:18

And you think of a tea service - tea being very Chinese -

0:35:180:35:21

but the concept of a three-piece tea set isn't at all Chinese!

0:35:210:35:26

The picture frame there. Those are very sought-after today.

0:35:260:35:30

-Are they?

-Yes, people really like those.

0:35:300:35:33

The trade itself, of course,

0:35:330:35:35

started to develop because of the people arriving to do business -

0:35:350:35:40

the shippers, the diplomats -

0:35:400:35:42

and there were the great China-trade ports -

0:35:420:35:45

Hong Kong, Shanghai and Canton.

0:35:450:35:49

And, of course, as your family were from Shanghai,

0:35:490:35:53

well, there's no prizes for guessing where these pieces should be from.

0:35:530:35:57

And the vast majority of these, we are looking at

0:35:570:36:01

the latter part of the 19th century.

0:36:010:36:03

So, I mean, a mug like this...

0:36:030:36:06

-that on its own would easily be £500.

-Really?

0:36:060:36:11

And, similarly, the picture frame,

0:36:110:36:15

-that's going to be £600-£700 quite easily.

-Really?!

0:36:150:36:19

And if you start totting this little lot up,

0:36:190:36:24

I think you wouldn't get much change out of 10,000

0:36:240:36:27

for what is actually on the table.

0:36:270:36:29

Goodness! Wow, I'd better take care of it then!

0:36:290:36:33

-Look after it.

-Well, thank you very much.

0:36:330:36:36

It's a great sign of the times

0:36:390:36:41

when the BBC are creating memorabilia

0:36:410:36:44

that appears on The Antiques Roadshow.

0:36:440:36:46

Here we have a letter from the chief BBC announcer,

0:36:460:36:49

the famous John Snagge,

0:36:490:36:51

who was on the radio on a daily basis,

0:36:510:36:53

pre, during and after the war.

0:36:530:36:55

And it's written to a "Dear Frank".

0:36:550:36:57

-Who's he?

-Frank Phillips was my father.

0:36:570:37:00

He was a BBC newsreader during the war

0:37:000:37:03

and this letter is from John Snagge,

0:37:030:37:06

enclosing quite an important script

0:37:060:37:09

that he read on the morning of 6th June 1944.

0:37:090:37:13

-That being D Day.

-D Day.

0:37:130:37:16

Well, that's an amazing archive find

0:37:160:37:18

and so kind of him to give it back to your dad.

0:37:180:37:22

So we've got four pages here, in script, not typed.

0:37:220:37:26

That's quite strange, isn't it?

0:37:260:37:27

I mean, I would have thought it would have been typed

0:37:270:37:30

before being read out.

0:37:300:37:32

Well, my understanding, from reading John Snagge's letter to my father,

0:37:320:37:36

is that it was regarded as too confidential,

0:37:360:37:39

because it was essentially announcing D Day, to entrust to any typist.

0:37:390:37:44

And real men didn't type in those days

0:37:440:37:47

and so it's a hand-written script.

0:37:470:37:51

And it was such a secret, wasn't it? I mean,

0:37:510:37:54

had the enemy had any inkling

0:37:540:37:56

that we were heading towards Normandy rather than somewhere else,

0:37:560:37:59

it could have been a completely different outcome.

0:37:590:38:02

Absolutely, yes.

0:38:020:38:04

So he must have been full of trepidation about the day,

0:38:040:38:07

this important...

0:38:070:38:10

And it says, "From the BBC in Great Britain,

0:38:100:38:12

"we are sounding the alert

0:38:120:38:14

"for the countries on the coastline

0:38:140:38:17

"of Western Europe occupied by the enemy".

0:38:170:38:19

Also, let alone the John Snagge,

0:38:190:38:22

there's, I think, a copy of a really important document

0:38:220:38:26

which is signed by Winston Churchill and Eisenhower.

0:38:260:38:30

That's right. My understanding is that is the communique

0:38:300:38:33

that my father was trailing, if you like,

0:38:330:38:36

and that John Snagge read the communique itself,

0:38:360:38:39

and I think it says here that it was signed by those two

0:38:390:38:43

and given to John Snagge because he read that particular communique.

0:38:430:38:48

So I'm not sure that his generosity

0:38:480:38:50

extended to passing on the original signed communique.

0:38:500:38:54

And I think what's also very evocative is...

0:38:540:38:56

Obviously, during the war,

0:38:560:38:58

the radio was such an important part of society,

0:38:580:39:01

both here in the UK and presumably across Europe.

0:39:010:39:04

As an example here, we've a letter addressed to your dad from Holland,

0:39:040:39:08

and it goes on about how important it is for him.

0:39:080:39:11

"Here is one out of the multitude of listeners

0:39:110:39:14

"to your famous transmissions

0:39:140:39:15

"during the five long years of enemy occupation."

0:39:150:39:18

And it goes on to say how important it was in his life.

0:39:180:39:21

It was indeed, yes.

0:39:210:39:22

And, in fact, that particular individual

0:39:220:39:25

named his son after my father,

0:39:250:39:27

his first two Christian names are Frank Phillip.

0:39:270:39:31

-Well, you can't get a better accolade than that, can you?

-No.

0:39:310:39:35

My goodness, what's it worth?

0:39:350:39:37

That day was the turning point of the war, wasn't it?

0:39:370:39:40

And an amazingly important transmission.

0:39:400:39:42

It's unique, one's never been sold before.

0:39:420:39:46

I'm sort of thinking about a figure of maybe...

0:39:460:39:48

certainly a couple of thousand pounds.

0:39:480:39:50

-Fine, well, I'm not selling it any time soon.

-I'm glad to hear it.

0:39:500:39:55

Thank you very much.

0:39:550:39:58

Well, my first question is, what nationality do you suppose he is?

0:39:580:40:02

That's a question I've wondered.

0:40:020:40:04

-He's got a turban.

-Yeah.

-So he looks, could be Indian,

0:40:040:40:07

but he's got a feather in it,

0:40:070:40:09

so he might be sort of Arabian Nights type of thing?

0:40:090:40:11

OK, well, I'm going to suggest he might be Turkish.

0:40:110:40:16

Right.

0:40:160:40:17

And do you know anything about him?

0:40:170:40:20

Nothing apart from it used to belong to my grandmother

0:40:200:40:23

and I don't know where and how and when she got it.

0:40:230:40:26

I mean, he's got some age, and he's got some dents and scratches...

0:40:260:40:29

-He has, yes.

-..and chips.

0:40:290:40:31

And dents and scratches do rather affect this material.

0:40:310:40:34

This material is known as Delftware,

0:40:340:40:37

which is a earthenware covered in a skin of white glaze

0:40:370:40:42

-which is then - in this case - decorated in blue.

-Right.

0:40:420:40:45

To the untrained eye, this looks like porcelain,

0:40:450:40:48

because we associate blue and white with porcelain.

0:40:480:40:50

And that's actually what these potters were trying to achieve,

0:40:500:40:54

they were competing with China.

0:40:540:40:57

But there's a reason for him being a Turk and the clue is here.

0:40:570:41:02

Have you worked out what these are for - these holes?

0:41:020:41:05

Well, they look as if they should have flowers in them

0:41:050:41:07

but it's a rather peculiar flower vase

0:41:070:41:09

that's got a head in the middle of it.

0:41:090:41:12

OK, now, let's just put all of that together.

0:41:120:41:15

So, he is a Turk, but he's made in Delftware

0:41:150:41:19

and in fact Delftware is, of course, Dutch, generally speaking.

0:41:190:41:22

Right.

0:41:220:41:24

What flowers would you associate with Delft or Holland?

0:41:240:41:28

Tulips.

0:41:280:41:30

Tulips, and we've got there, because tulips were developed by Turks.

0:41:300:41:35

-Oh!

-So it's entirely appropriate that a vase intended for tulips

0:41:350:41:39

should be modelled in the form of a Turk,

0:41:390:41:42

and tulips were extremely popular in the 1620s-30s,

0:41:420:41:45

there was a tulip mania.

0:41:450:41:47

-Yeah, yeah.

-But ever since then, vases like this have been made.

0:41:470:41:52

You can go out and buy them in the shops in Holland today

0:41:520:41:54

and you can buy them and they generally have a maker's mark -

0:41:540:41:58

such as this one on the back -

0:41:580:42:01

imitating the early Delftware pieces.

0:42:010:42:05

Now, the question is,

0:42:050:42:07

is this an early Delftware piece

0:42:070:42:09

or is it one of the many, many, many copies. We see lots and lots.

0:42:090:42:14

It's quite difficult sometimes to make up one's mind.

0:42:140:42:18

I'm sure you would like it to be an original

0:42:180:42:20

and I would love to be able to tell you that it was an original.

0:42:200:42:24

-However...

-17th-century would be nice.

-..it looks too good to be true

0:42:240:42:27

and looking in the bottom there, there's a sort of nice rough patch.

0:42:270:42:30

There's not a great deal of wear. Is he a copy?

0:42:300:42:34

As a copy, this is worth somewhere in the region of £500-£1,000.

0:42:350:42:40

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:42:400:42:42

Ah, fabulous, well.

0:42:420:42:45

Perhaps I like him a bit more now.

0:42:450:42:46

-You do?

-Yes.

-Um...

0:42:460:42:49

Actually, I don't think it is a copy.

0:42:490:42:52

So we'll bump it up a bit.

0:42:520:42:53

Shall we say somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000?

0:42:530:42:56

No! I wasn't going to do the gasp, but I've gasped!

0:42:560:43:00

Hmm.

0:43:010:43:03

Well, I think it's fair to say, another satisfied customer.

0:43:030:43:07

From The Antiques Roadshow team, until next time, bye-bye.

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