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We've reached our Falmouth -

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from where Sir Robin Knox-Johnston set sail

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for the first non-stop solo voyage around the world, and from where

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Dame Ellen MacArthur broke the record

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with her solo trip back in 2004.

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We're about to set sail on our own voyage of discovery.

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Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow

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from the National Maritime Museum, Cornwall.

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Today the Antiques Roadshow is setting out its stall

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at the National Maritime Museum, Cornwall.

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It was established here because Falmouth

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was one of the most important maritime ports in the country,

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with stories of brave endeavours at sea,

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of survival against the odds, and intriguing mysteries.

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This may be the greatest mystery

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the Roadshow has ever attempted to uncover.

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It's a ship's strong box from the 18th century

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and if I was strong enough to lift it and shake it,

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which I'm not, because it's incredibly heavy,

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I could tell you that there's something rattling around inside it.

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But, despite several attempts over the years,

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no-one has ever managed to unlock its secrets.

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But today, we're going to try and crack it

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and see if it contains hidden treasure.

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It's particularly intriguing because the strong box could have

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been aboard a ship that plied the seas

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for the Royal Mail Packet Service,

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which carried mail, money and important documents to destinations

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in Britain's ever-expanding empire during the 1800s.

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The Packet Service was unique to Falmouth.

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Formed in 1689, it consisted of around 40 ships

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that would carry gold bullion to pay troops fighting overseas.

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This made journeying the oceans fraught with danger.

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Packet captains ran the gauntlet of enemy ships

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from Spain and France, sent to capture them.

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In 1807, Captain William Rogers was attacked by French privateers.

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Sick of being hounded, Rogers turned to fight,

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despite being outnumbered three to one.

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He became a national hero by shooting the French captain,

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winning the day, and not losing a man.

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Rogers was meant to throw all the ship's valuables overboard

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if set upon, and this would have included

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the contents of his on-board safe, which brings us back to this one.

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Because this strong box was part of the Customs Service

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on board the ships, they were used to carry things like money,

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documents, maps, Customs have to be present by law when we open it,

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so let me introduce Trevor, who is from Customs.

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This is Chris, our locksmith or safe-cracker

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and hopefully we're going to be opening this strong box

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and finding out what's inside.

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And as our experts prepare for another busy day,

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why not try our valuation game?

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To take part, press red on your remote control.

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We'll give you your final score and Roadshow rating

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at the end of the programme. Good luck!

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I can see that the love of cleaning silver

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isn't high up on your list of preferences.

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Where's it been for all these years?

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-Well, kept in a cupboard, wardrobe, mainly.

-Yeah?

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Wrapped in paper, in tissue paper, black tissue paper.

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And what's its history before that?

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Well, it's just been handed down through the generations

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-on our father's side.

-Right.

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-We don't know any significance about it.

-Do you know what it is?

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-Well, I understand it's a porringer, whatever that means.

-Yes.

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A porringer is a name, basically, for a bowl for serving broth.

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Oh, yes.

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They were very popular in the second half of the 17th century,

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so we're actually looking at a pretty old piece of silver here.

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And if we turn it up, it's got a lovely set of marks on the bottom.

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We've got a date letter "R" for 1674, so Charles II.

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The maker's mark, FS, is recorded, but we don't know who it is

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because most of the records of silversmiths of that period

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were destroyed in a fire at the Goldsmiths Hall

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-towards the end of the 17th century.

-Yes.

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But what is no nice about this porringer

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is that it has all the features that you would expect to see

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on a piece of Charles II silver.

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And that is this heavy and somewhat rather crude and clumsy embossing.

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Yes.

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And the reason you've got that is that, after the Civil War,

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from sort of 1660 onwards, silver was in very short supply

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so it was made in light gauge, and in order to strengthen it,

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they embossed it with these big, rather clumsy figures.

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-And we've got a deer on the front here.

-Yes.

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And if we turn it round,

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we've got the hound chasing it on the other side.

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-But the technical expertise is not magnificent.

-No.

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But it has a charm, and there are plenty of collectors

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that like silver of this period,

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particularly people who actually collect porringers.

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Do they? Oh!

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So, a piece of silver of this age, and an object like this,

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is actually quite sought after.

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-Is it?

-Yeah, to the tune of £3,000 to £4,000.

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Golly!

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So, is it going back in the piece of paper?!

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We shall have to just have a family discussion, I think.

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-Thanks for bringing it along.

-Thank you very much, thank you.

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There she goes!

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BYSTANDERS LAUGH AND CHEER

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That was fantastic!

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That is, I would say,

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-the most unusual toy I've seen for a very long time.

-Really?

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And so amusing. And so, who are the figures?

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Well, I don't know, but they seem to be grannies

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and I can't really understand why grannies would be

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on a toboggan or a rollercoaster.

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Hang on, not all grannies are old, you know!

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I'm a granny and I would love to go on a toboggan and rollercoaster!

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I'd probably scream all the way.

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And we've got a mark on it, here.

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MMN, which stands for Max Moskowitz of Nuremberg.

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Oh, really?

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And he was one of the many in the factories in Nuremberg

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who were making these toys.

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But really unusual ones like this. And I think because of that,

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I mean, he didn't probably make very many.

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And a lot of them were sent to America and I'm intrigued to know

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where you got it yourself, because I've never seen one.

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-Well, I actually got it from America.

-Did you?

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Yes, from an American collector, and he didn't quite know what it was

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and it just fascinated me, and I thought I'd have to have it.

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I think it's absolutely wonderful.

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We're dating really quite an early tin plate toy,

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to the 1920s, 1921,

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and it's in very good condition.

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I mean, it's working, for a start

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and the fact that all the paint is all there,

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it's obviously been played with, but it's in very good condition.

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And I suppose I've got to put a price on it for you,

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and I would say that a collector in this country

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would be looking at £1,000 to £1,500.

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Wow!

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Gosh, that's good!

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HE LAUGHS

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Come on, Granny.

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Go.

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CROWD LAUGH

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I don't know what she was like in real life,

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but she doesn't look very happy there, does she, really?

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I think she's a perfect old dragon, frankly!

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Who is she? What's the story?

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She was my great-great-grandmother

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and her husband was a man called Sir William Blingorn,

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a German, who was a personal friend of Prince Albert.

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And when Prince Albert came over to England to marry Queen Victoria,

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he asked William to come with him, so he'd have a close friend here.

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Right.

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The ring belongs to her.

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It was handed to my grandmother and my grandmother gave it to me.

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So there's the family tradition, it goes right back to the 19th century.

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The man who owned this originally

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was someone who had this friendship...

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-Yes.

-..with the Prince Consort.

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That's right.

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The ring is quite a bold sort of cluster of stones.

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It's come down to you in remarkably good condition. Did you know that?

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There's no damage,

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there's no apparent wear to the mount or anything like that,

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so you've looked after it. Have you worn it?

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-I've worn it a great deal.

-Oh, you've looked after it very well!

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I'm very fond of it.

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I don't blame you, because it's a big bold-looking cluster ring

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set with a cluster of colourless stones.

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A lot of people would look at those stones and wonder what they were.

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-Do you know what they are?

-I think they're diamonds. I hope they are.

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Well, they are diamonds. They're table cut diamonds,

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and unlike modern cut diamonds

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which are often much more sparkly because they've got more facets,

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these diamonds here are very simplistic in their cut.

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They're very chunky, square stones, literally with tops cut off

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and we call them table cut stones.

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I mentioned about the quality of the setting.

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Have a look at that at the back,

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that lovely polished, gold mount in the setting.

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Where do you think it was made? Any ideas?

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As he was German, I was wondering if it was German, but I don't know.

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I think yes, Continental manufacture,

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but would it be a surprise to hear that, in spite of its condition,

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it was made in about 1700?

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-Really?

-Mmm. And that's what makes this unusual,

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because old diamonds, like this, were cut in that particular way,

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and after that, sophisticated cutting started to come in.

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Diamonds were sparkly, because they learned the technique

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of cutting diamonds properly for the first time.

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But the old diamonds, particularly on the Continent,

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did look really rather drab.

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-But, actually, that's the character of the stones in the ring.

-Yes.

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So it's got a wonderful family background.

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I'd love to know what she was like.

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Well, my grandmother was brought up by her.

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She was orphaned as a baby.

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And she was brought up by The Dragon, as we always called her.

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Don't think she'd have appreciated that!

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Well, one story she told me, that she had a pet lamb

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which she used to feed when she was a very little girl,

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a lamb called Barley.

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And one day at dinner, she said to her grandmother, this old lady,

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"I haven't seen Barley today. Do you know where he is?"

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And she turned to this small child and said, "You're eating her"!

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So that's why we call her "The Dragon".

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Hmm. So she was a gentle soul, wasn't she, really?!

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Anyway, not withstanding this dreadful tale of Barley,

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made up with lamb chops and mint sauce, which is a horrible story...

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-Awful!

-Awful story.

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..the ring itself is worth £4,000 to £5,000.

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Good Lord!

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-There we are.

-How wonderful!

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And I've been cheerfully wearing it, thinking nothing of it.

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Nothing wrong in that. Carry on wearing it, but be aware of the fact

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you've got a ring on your finger worth several thousand pounds.

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SHE LAUGHS

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-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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Now, I love these sort of French clocks very, very much

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and I have to ask you, do you have the original dome for it?

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Yes, I do, at home, yes, I do.

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And do you have it running?

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No, unfortunately it hasn't run as long as I've known it.

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And so it's a family thing, if you've known it for ages, is it?

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Yes, yes, it is. It belonged to my grandfather, yes.

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He won it in a penny farthing race back in the 1800s, late 1800s.

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He used to do a lot of racing bikes and penny farthings, then.

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Penny farthings particularly? Gosh.

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Yes, penny farthings in particular.

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What a fabulous prize!

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-So, late 1800s.

-Yes.

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It all fits in absolutely perfectly, because it dates from 1885-1895.

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All fits in beautifully.

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The French were manufacturing wonderfully complicated clocks

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and this is a real compendium.

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But they were doing things on industrial themes and marine themes.

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But this is actually equally desirable.

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And the reason is, because you've got the pair of globes.

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I mean, let's start at the bottom.

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Standard timepiece movement, not a striker, obviously.

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Thermometer in the middle, sadly the tube has broken,

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but that's the least of your worries,

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and then we have an aneroid barometer at the top

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and right at the very top, we have a little compass.

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It's a great thing,

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but the thing that makes it superb are the pair of globes.

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A terrestrial globe and a celestial globe.

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I see the globe is signed just down here, Bertaux,

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and it gives an address in Paris

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and the celestial is signed by a different maker, Delamarche,

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at the same address, which is quite fun.

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So it's all absolutely 100%

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and this would have been a very generous present at the time.

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It's a really nice object, and if it were mine,

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I would probably regild it, resilver some of it, polish the marble

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and just get it looking in top retail.

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So, even in this state, I have absolutely no hesitation

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in saying to you that it would fetch at least £3,500 to £4,000.

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Oh, my goodness.

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And how appropriate, now that cycling is so popular in the UK,

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that we have something won by an early penny farthing racer.

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Yes, thank you!

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If I was living in 1911

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and I had a chance of having my portrait painted,

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who was the best person I could possibly get to paint my portrait?

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And it would be this person, John Singer Sargent.

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I can hardly believe what I'm seeing here.

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It is fantastic, and it's the most beautiful black chalk drawing,

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dated 1911.

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-Now, who's the sitter?

-It's my great-great aunt Pamela.

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So, what sort of person was Pamela?

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Well, she's quite a young girl here, but she grew up to be

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one of the great society beauties of the 20s and 30s.

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Very glamorous, as you can probably imagine.

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She even turned down Edward VIII.

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She wouldn't have anything to do with him, but of course he went on

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and married Wallis Simpson afterwards.

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Pamela was always dressed fantastically.

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Pearls always round her neck, that sort of person, really.

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What a wonderful story. I think that's fantastic.

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And you can just see here, you know, she is so pretty as a child,

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and what she'd have grown into. No wonder Edward VIII was interested.

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Well, it is a fantastic study

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and the thing about Sargent... who's an American,

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and he came over and studied in Paris and came over here,

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and he became what I call the greatest flapper artist.

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He painted these elegant ladies, beautiful oil paintings

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and lots of drawings like this.

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I suppose if you couldn't afford to have your portrait

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painted in oil, you'd go for one of these.

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-That's the story.

-Is that what happened?

-That's exactly the story.

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Well, they couldn't have chosen a better person to paint her.

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And after he'd finished in Paris, he came over and painted in London

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and all the aristocracy wanted him to paint their portraits.

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So you can't afford the oil, this is what you'd come up with.

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And I think it's absolutely stunning.

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It is on French paper, and he often used this,

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because sometimes these can be very clever prints

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and you get confused, but this is black chalk on French paper,

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absolutely typical of what he was using at the time.

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And I see you've got the brooch here.

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Yes. It's amazing it's survived so long, really.

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-I know, and here it is in the picture.

-Yes.

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Shown to us here, and it's just so lovely to have the two together.

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So do you have it hanging at home?

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Well, it is hung up, yeah.

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-And have you got it insured at the moment?

-I believe so.

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Do you know how much for?

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Yes, it's currently insured for £10,000.

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OK, well, you're going to have to readjust that,

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because they're rare.

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He's probably the most collectable portrait painter

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you could want to own, really, and I would put on this,

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if it came up for auction, about £30,000 to £50,000.

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Oh, really now?

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-At least.

-Goodness me!

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The reason being, he's an American

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and he is the most famous portrait painter, really,

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-of the 20th century.

-Goodness, wow!

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It's stunning.

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Oh, it is, it's really beautiful.

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While Chris works away here trying to open the strong box

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- good luck with that -

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Trevor, you're from Customs

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and this strong box used to be in Customs House here, didn't it?

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Yes, Fiona. I worked here for 25 years as a Customs Officer

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and quite recently the office closed,

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so the artefacts from the office were donated to the Maritime Museum,

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but this chest sat in what was our rest room for many years.

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in fact we even had a TV sitting on top of it, at one stage.

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In the 25 years that I was there,

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there was one attempt to open it, and it failed,

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so as far as I'm aware, that has not been opened in living memory.

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Now it had to go up to ministerial level, didn't it?

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To get permission for us to open this box.

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Because we hadn't opened it, there was an old sort of caveat that

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if ever anybody attempted to open it, that we should be informed,

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and when yourselves came to say that you were going to open it,

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we had to take permission from our senior managers,

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and it went right the way up

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and even the ministers are aware that we're opening this today.

0:18:560:19:00

-I sincerely hope there's something interesting inside, then!

-So do I.

0:19:000:19:03

And whatever's in here...

0:19:030:19:04

does it automatically belong to you, then? To Customs.

0:19:040:19:07

We'll have to wait and see what's in there.

0:19:070:19:09

I'll make a judgement once we get in there and see what's in there.

0:19:090:19:12

What will inform that judgement? Whether it's valuable enough?

0:19:120:19:15

Yes, or of any significance to the Border Force.

0:19:150:19:18

But, I mean, who knows?

0:19:180:19:19

And what would be of significance to the Border Force?

0:19:190:19:22

We're not expecting someone to be stowed away in there,

0:19:220:19:24

so what kind of thing?

0:19:240:19:26

Yeah, I would suggest primarily, cash.

0:19:260:19:28

There may be cash because this was used to retain cash

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from duties paid, or fines.

0:19:320:19:33

Any important documents

0:19:330:19:36

perhaps relating to legislation or Acts of Parliament.

0:19:360:19:40

And there's another way of looking at this.

0:19:400:19:42

This could be the greatest anti-climax of all time.

0:19:420:19:44

I mean there's something in there

0:19:440:19:46

because I'm told something is rattling around.

0:19:460:19:49

Ye-es, well, could be some officer's love letters! Who knows?

0:19:490:19:52

-Treasure map...

-That would be exciting!

0:19:520:19:54

I don't know.

0:19:540:19:56

Until we open that, it is pure speculation.

0:19:560:19:59

-Are you curious?

-I'm desperately curious, yes!

0:19:590:20:02

It's quite appropriate to see a lifeboat board like this.

0:20:040:20:07

Where did you get it from?

0:20:070:20:09

Well, we went to see a house that was for sale

0:20:090:20:12

and it was called The Old Coastguard Station

0:20:120:20:14

and, believe it or not, it was in a skip, upside down

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and I love skips, so I jumped in it and picked it up

0:20:200:20:24

and I couldn't believe to see "Lifeboat Station",

0:20:240:20:29

everything else with it.

0:20:290:20:31

And did you know what it was when you saw it?

0:20:310:20:33

No, I had no idea, and eventually we bought the ex-Coastguard Station

0:20:330:20:40

and I got in touch with a local historian

0:20:400:20:44

and he told me that, actually, the abbreviation, what it means.

0:20:440:20:47

Bad and thick weather watch.

0:20:470:20:51

And we've got there "B" and "TWW". The thick weather presumably is fog.

0:20:510:20:56

-Totally, because when it's thick it's like pea soup.

-Yeah.

0:20:560:20:59

And every time the station was on call,

0:20:590:21:03

and the lifeboat had to be on a rescue,

0:21:030:21:09

they would put "on" or "off".

0:21:090:21:11

So if they're on duty, you'd have it set on, off duty.

0:21:110:21:14

-And that showed everyone who was available.

-Yes.

0:21:140:21:17

Most of these don't exist any more, they sell them all off

0:21:170:21:20

-and... Did you convert it to a house?

-Yes.

0:21:200:21:23

Which is what happens a lot now.

0:21:230:21:25

And these were just thrown in the skip.

0:21:250:21:27

They're not particularly well-made,

0:21:270:21:29

but they're a real piece of local history.

0:21:290:21:31

You can see these little peg holdings here.

0:21:310:21:33

This is where pegs would have sat

0:21:330:21:35

and that's where reports would have been hung, on those.

0:21:350:21:38

Imagine all the different stories that have been on this board.

0:21:380:21:42

And this would date from the early part of the 20th century

0:21:420:21:45

and you just imagine how much more of a dangerous occupation

0:21:450:21:49

-it was then. It's a lot safer now.

-Oh, yes.

0:21:490:21:51

And it's great to see all of the names down here,

0:21:510:21:54

all of the stations.

0:21:540:21:55

Most have gone because they were just sold off.

0:21:550:21:57

I mean, it's not great quality.

0:21:570:21:59

It never was meant to be something of great quality.

0:21:590:22:02

It's a bit rough, it's had a bashing, but these were working boards.

0:22:020:22:05

But people are starting to appreciate these things now,

0:22:050:22:10

more than they were, and I think to a collector,

0:22:100:22:13

it's tricky, but I would say around the £300 mark. But who cares?

0:22:130:22:17

-It's not value. All these coastguards have saved people's lives.

-Exactly.

0:22:170:22:22

And we owe so much to the lifeboats, it's unbelievable,

0:22:220:22:27

and we should celebrate them.

0:22:270:22:29

A lot of people watching the show will recognise

0:22:300:22:33

some of these from their own lives

0:22:330:22:35

and you know precisely how they came to England, don't you?

0:22:350:22:39

I do.

0:22:390:22:41

My father was a contracts manager for a company called Danesco,

0:22:410:22:45

which imported Scandinavian things, mainly Denmark and Finland,

0:22:450:22:49

and these were things that he imported.

0:22:490:22:52

So if somebody owns one of these, Arabia crockery, Holmegaard glass,

0:22:520:22:58

then it's pretty well down to your dad.

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It is, yes.

0:23:020:23:03

So we're really dating,

0:23:030:23:05

the earliest things here are Bent Severin's Princess glasses.

0:23:050:23:09

And there they are.

0:23:090:23:11

And I personally think, I think it's arguable

0:23:110:23:14

that these are probably the most beautiful wine glasses ever made.

0:23:140:23:17

I think they're absolutely gorgeous, I really do.

0:23:170:23:21

Of course they're completely impractical

0:23:210:23:23

because you come to pour this

0:23:230:23:25

-and the pressure of the wine has the tendency to knock 'em over.

-Yes.

0:23:250:23:30

And the result is of course, that these are really quite sought-after

0:23:300:23:33

because the casualty rate is so high.

0:23:330:23:36

What's your favourite?

0:23:360:23:38

Probably the Gulvvases.

0:23:380:23:41

Gulvvases, Gulv vase. "Gulvvase" means floor vase.

0:23:410:23:45

They weren't really vases to put things in,

0:23:450:23:47

they were vases as objects in their own right.

0:23:470:23:50

These are credited to Otto Brauer

0:23:500:23:53

who was a glassblower at the Odense plant for Holmegaard.

0:23:530:23:58

You also have this, by Chister Holmgren.

0:23:580:24:01

This is a spirit decanter.

0:24:010:24:03

And the last one, I don't recognise, but I suspect you do.

0:24:030:24:06

I do, because this was a chalice that was given to my father

0:24:060:24:10

in thanks for all the work he'd done,

0:24:100:24:13

as part of their commemoration of being open for 150 years.

0:24:130:24:17

-There we go, 1825-1975 - 150 years of Holmegaard Kastrup.

-Yeah.

0:24:170:24:21

So, 1957 is Bent Severin's Princess glass.

0:24:220:24:25

Otto Brauer is, 1962 is the design date of the Gulvvase.

0:24:250:24:31

And these are also contemporary with it,

0:24:310:24:33

these are '50s into the '60s, the Arabia crockery.

0:24:330:24:37

And what's happened is that these companies are gone.

0:24:370:24:40

Everything has now closed.

0:24:400:24:42

Anybody that isn't closed is in desperate trouble, really,

0:24:420:24:45

because the imports from China

0:24:450:24:48

of mass-made, mass-market stuff

0:24:480:24:51

inspired entirely by these guys, and the girls,

0:24:510:24:57

have completely wiped them out.

0:24:570:24:59

So these are very fashionable items.

0:24:590:25:01

The Princess glasses, this one,

0:25:010:25:04

they're about £50 each, for the large claret.

0:25:040:25:08

That's a lovely sized glass.

0:25:080:25:10

The spirit decanter, £15,

0:25:100:25:15

the ceramics, you know that sort of mark, but the money's here.

0:25:150:25:20

This is probably...£150?

0:25:200:25:24

The red one is probably worth more,

0:25:240:25:27

£200, really, even though it's smaller

0:25:270:25:30

because this is precisely where the market is.

0:25:300:25:32

That's the object that is a dream object, if you like.

0:25:320:25:37

Total value here, about £500 or £600.

0:25:370:25:40

-But it's your life, isn't it?

-It is, yes.

0:25:400:25:42

-Fantastic, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:25:420:25:45

-So here we are, back in the days of the Music Hall.

-Yes.

0:25:510:25:55

-And the name is Harry Champion.

-That was his stage name.

0:25:550:25:58

Harry Champion, Royal Performance here, Royal Variety Performance.

0:25:580:26:01

-That's it.

-And what is he to you?

0:26:010:26:03

Well, he's my grandfather, and my father worshipped him.

0:26:030:26:08

Consequently Clive, we've got so much memorabilia about the Music Halls,

0:26:080:26:12

I just didn't know what to bring.

0:26:120:26:14

What was his act?

0:26:140:26:15

His act was singing, mostly, between 50 and 60 songs he'd got.

0:26:150:26:20

I think he'd do a little time-step at the end.

0:26:200:26:23

So he was a song and dance, yes.

0:26:230:26:25

And throw in a few gags as well.

0:26:250:26:26

-And a few gags, so comedian, song and dance.

-Yes.

0:26:260:26:30

Very much in that tradition. What were his dates?

0:26:300:26:32

1865-1942.

0:26:320:26:36

So he lived quite a long time.

0:26:360:26:37

He did, through both World Wars, yes.

0:26:370:26:39

This obviously was the Royal Variety Performance

0:26:390:26:42

at the London Palladium, 1935.

0:26:420:26:44

-He did three.

-He did three? And this was the last one, obviously.

0:26:440:26:48

Yes, and these command performances were before, as you see,

0:26:480:26:52

-King George V and Queen Mary.

-Yes.

0:26:520:26:55

And I think he must have tickled the fancy of the King.

0:26:550:26:58

No, I think he tickled the fancy of the Queen.

0:26:580:27:01

She used to love The Crazy Gang.

0:27:010:27:04

Yes, well he did a lot of shows with The Crazy Gang.

0:27:040:27:07

So, Music Hall was really the precursor of television.

0:27:070:27:09

This is what people entertained themselves with in the evening.

0:27:090:27:13

-Exactly.

-They didn't turn on EastEnders,

0:27:130:27:15

they just went down to the East End and went to the Music Hall.

0:27:150:27:17

Very, very popular.

0:27:170:27:19

And here he is, Harry Champion again,

0:27:190:27:21

"By the Royal Command performer" he's dated there, this is in 1937.

0:27:210:27:26

-Yes.

-Original singer of Any Old Iron and Henry VIII.

0:27:260:27:31

Is that what he sang? So he was the first person to sing these songs.

0:27:310:27:34

Yes. Any Old Iron, I think was his most popular song.

0:27:340:27:37

Any Old Iron, yes.

0:27:370:27:39

I love this picture here.

0:27:390:27:42

This is by Bruce Bairnsfather

0:27:420:27:44

who did all the First World War pictures that we see.

0:27:440:27:47

You know, he did the pictures of "If you knows of a better 'ole"

0:27:470:27:50

those ones, that series.

0:27:500:27:52

Yes. Well, he was standing in the wings

0:27:520:27:54

when Harry was on the stage, and he just did that quickly.

0:27:540:27:57

-And that's a picture of his back?

-Yes.

0:27:570:28:00

With this wonderful hat, batty hat, and all these buttons down the back.

0:28:000:28:04

And "Wood Green, November 1938".

0:28:040:28:06

That would be Wood Green Empire.

0:28:060:28:08

Wood Green Empire, yes. And this one here which I think is rather,

0:28:080:28:11

a rather sad photograph here, this one.

0:28:110:28:15

-This is of the dog.

-It was his...

0:28:150:28:17

..in front of the sideboard, in front of a picture of him.

0:28:170:28:21

-It was his beloved Bill, the dog.

-The dog was Bill?

0:28:210:28:23

Yes, and when he died, the photographer came round

0:28:230:28:27

and they headed it in the paper,

0:28:270:28:30

"Waiting for a call that will not come".

0:28:300:28:33

-Waiting, yes.

-Yes, waiting for his boss's call.

0:28:330:28:37

Well, I would have thought, I mean I can't value things individually,

0:28:370:28:42

but you have a collection here

0:28:420:28:44

that is certainly worth £5,000, if not considerably more.

0:28:440:28:47

Really?

0:28:470:28:49

But, I wouldn't part with it for any less.

0:28:490:28:52

And I'm sure you wouldn't either.

0:28:520:28:54

# Any old iron, any old iron

0:28:570:28:59

# Any, any, any old iron

0:28:590:29:02

# You look neat, talk about a treat

0:29:020:29:04

# You look a dapper from your napper to your feet

0:29:040:29:06

# Dressed in style with a brand new tile

0:29:060:29:08

# And your father's old green tie on

0:29:080:29:10

# I wouldn't give you tuppence for an old watch chain

0:29:100:29:13

# Old iron, iron! #

0:29:130:29:16

Ha-ha!

0:29:180:29:21

How much of a challenge is a lock like this, Chris?

0:29:210:29:24

Well, it's not too much of a challenge.

0:29:240:29:25

You've got to have a certain amount of skill of hand

0:29:250:29:28

and fairly good eyesight.

0:29:280:29:30

And how many hours has it taken to get,

0:29:300:29:33

to establish the shape of the lock, to create the keys, file them down

0:29:330:29:38

and get them to the point where we could open this strong box?

0:29:380:29:41

The actual hours I put in to making the keys for this thing,

0:29:410:29:44

probably in the region of ten, actually doing it.

0:29:440:29:48

-Ten hours just to make one key?

-Yeah.

0:29:480:29:49

And what does it tell you about the age of this, the mechanism itself?

0:29:490:29:53

I would put this at around 1820.

0:29:530:29:57

-So 19th century?

-Just into the 19th century.

0:29:570:30:00

Looking at this box, and the mechanism, is there anything

0:30:000:30:03

about this that can give us any clue as to what might be inside

0:30:030:30:07

or whether there might be something valuable inside, or not?

0:30:070:30:11

There's no clue whatsoever.

0:30:120:30:14

You can only go by what it would be used for,

0:30:140:30:17

and it would be used for carrying valuables of some description.

0:30:170:30:21

-Well, I'm told it's not been opened in living memory.

-That's right.

0:30:210:30:24

So your keys will unlock the mystery. That's correct.

0:30:240:30:27

No pressure, then.

0:30:270:30:29

No pressure, none at all!

0:30:290:30:31

Now looking at this mask closely, I can see two names.

0:30:320:30:35

We've got a name most people know, Clarice Cliff,

0:30:350:30:39

but there's also this other name, "modelled by Esme M Bailey".

0:30:390:30:42

Now, you can tell me who that is, can't you?

0:30:420:30:45

-Yes, that is my mother in fact.

-Oh!

0:30:450:30:49

Yes, she was 18 when she modelled this.

0:30:490:30:51

She went to art college, and her father, my grandfather,

0:30:510:30:56

had a shop in Bristol, which sold Clarice Cliff wares.

0:30:560:31:02

And so she was taken up to Stoke-on-Trent for about two weeks

0:31:020:31:08

and went to Clarice Cliff's workshop

0:31:080:31:11

and was given a lump of clay and said "get on and make something".

0:31:110:31:16

And she made four masks and then came back home

0:31:160:31:20

and about two or three months later it arrived back with the other three

0:31:200:31:26

and Mum looked at them in the box

0:31:260:31:29

and thought that they were awful, because of the bright colours!

0:31:290:31:36

She thought the colours were so garish, she just didn't like them.

0:31:360:31:41

So she was responsible for the model.

0:31:410:31:43

Well, she modelled... Clarice Cliff then chose the colours.

0:31:430:31:46

-Did the colours, finished them for her.

-And Mother didn't approve?

0:31:460:31:49

Not at all, she wanted more subdued colours.

0:31:490:31:51

So what happened to the ones Clarice Cliff sent?

0:31:510:31:54

-Mum put them in a jumble sale.

-OK!

0:31:540:31:57

Yes, so they...I've grown up with this story all my life.

0:31:570:32:00

I think you've got a picture of her, haven't you?

0:32:000:32:03

And I've got a photograph of her here, this is in 1931.

0:32:030:32:05

Well, she's quite a glamour puss.

0:32:050:32:07

She was, yes. She was 18 at the time.

0:32:070:32:10

So your mum must have been quite a groovy lady,

0:32:100:32:13

to have been given what we would call an internship today,

0:32:130:32:16

because Clarice Cliff was really, at that time,

0:32:160:32:19

very famous, very fashionable.

0:32:190:32:21

It was the contact with my grandfather. They were quite friendly

0:32:210:32:25

and, you know, he was selling a lot of the Bizarre ware at the time.

0:32:250:32:29

How come you've got this one?

0:32:290:32:31

She regretted, all her life, not actually keeping them.

0:32:310:32:36

And in 1998, she had a phone call from a friend

0:32:360:32:41

saying one of the masks was in an auction.

0:32:410:32:45

So my brothers and myself said, "You've got to go down,

0:32:450:32:48

"you've got to buy it, no matter what it costs, you've got to buy it."

0:32:480:32:52

So, in other words, 67 years later, Mum went, in her wheelchair,

0:32:520:32:57

with a friend, and bought this mask back in auction.

0:32:570:32:59

What did she pay?

0:32:590:33:01

£1,000.

0:33:010:33:03

Well, I think £1,000 is a fair price,

0:33:030:33:08

but how can you put money on those memories?

0:33:080:33:11

Not at all, you can't. It is just so magical, really.

0:33:110:33:13

That's a very magical, special object.

0:33:130:33:15

And thank you for sharing the story with us.

0:33:150:33:18

Thank you very much, thank you.

0:33:180:33:21

I love the way that the light drifts across this picture.

0:33:210:33:26

It's a silvery, pervasive light,

0:33:260:33:28

and it's thrown this old lady's face, into the most wonderful relief

0:33:280:33:33

and elderly faces are much more interesting than young faces.

0:33:330:33:37

I'll agree to that one, yes!

0:33:370:33:40

So will I. And who's it by?

0:33:400:33:42

-Walter Osborne.

-Ah!

0:33:420:33:44

Who I know very little about.

0:33:440:33:46

And this is the very first time I've seen the old lady outside

0:33:460:33:49

and the light is totally different to what it is at home -

0:33:490:33:52

the light is flatter, more subdued.

0:33:520:33:55

so I'm now seeing highlights and textures I've never noticed before.

0:33:550:33:58

That's very interesting, because that's exactly what he does.

0:33:580:34:02

That's Walter Osborne. Born in Dublin and working,

0:34:020:34:05

I think this is about, this is early for him...

0:34:050:34:07

he died young, aged 40-something

0:34:070:34:10

but this is about 1882-3, which is very early for him.

0:34:100:34:16

Yes, because he was quite young at that point.

0:34:160:34:18

Yes, very young.

0:34:180:34:20

And up here, actually, we've got his signature, which is rather useful.

0:34:200:34:25

It's very hard to read

0:34:250:34:27

but there are four letters after his name

0:34:270:34:30

which I think say "ARHA"

0:34:300:34:32

which means Associate of the Royal Hibernian Academy.

0:34:320:34:37

-Hibernian, OK.

-Yes, so that of course is Dublin.

-Yeah.

0:34:370:34:41

And it tells us it's before he was elected a full member,

0:34:410:34:44

which I think was in 1880... mid-1880s anyway.

0:34:440:34:48

so it's definitely before then.

0:34:480:34:51

And when he was at art college in Antwerp, he was studying there,

0:34:510:34:55

and there is a very Dutch feel about this picture.

0:34:550:34:58

That drifting light comes straight out of the tradition of Vermeer,

0:34:580:35:01

really, doesn't it?

0:35:010:35:03

I've looked at her ever since I was a small child.

0:35:030:35:05

In fact, it's the first image I can remember as a tiny toddler.

0:35:050:35:09

And I've lived with it all my life.

0:35:090:35:11

I knew nothing about her until recently.

0:35:110:35:14

I found a book on her, and it came from my grandfather,

0:35:140:35:18

so going back to 1920-24, and I've admired and loved her all my life.

0:35:180:35:24

I just feel she's lived a good, hard life, and worked

0:35:240:35:28

and there's a feeling of serenity and content

0:35:280:35:31

and she's seen it all around her. A pastoral life.

0:35:310:35:36

-Yes.

-And she's lovely, and comforting.

0:35:360:35:39

What you were saying about textures and colours, this is what I love

0:35:390:35:42

about Walter Osborne, this is what he was so good at.

0:35:420:35:45

I'm not quite sure what material we'd call that,

0:35:450:35:48

but somebody who knows about clothes

0:35:480:35:50

would certainly know what that was made of, and that was made of.

0:35:500:35:53

He's identified the textures so well.

0:35:530:35:56

And this lovely dab of light along the edge of the saucer.

0:35:560:36:01

This little still life, that's perfection in itself, isn't it?

0:36:010:36:04

It's beautiful. I mean that's very small and yet it stands out clearly.

0:36:040:36:08

He hasn't bothered at all with the background, but it works very well,

0:36:080:36:11

just to throw her out at us, in this light, it's terrific, and her face.

0:36:110:36:15

I mean, that is a map of experience, isn't it?

0:36:150:36:18

I agree with you, totally. Yes, a lifetime of love and...

0:36:180:36:22

I think she's actually probably just dozing off!

0:36:220:36:25

The end of a session, yes, just had a long artist's session.

0:36:250:36:29

I think that this early work

0:36:290:36:31

is one of the nicest things I've ever seen by him.

0:36:310:36:34

Now, what's it worth?

0:36:340:36:37

I really have no clue, but it was valued for us in 1990, I think,

0:36:370:36:43

round about £7,000-ish.

0:36:430:36:45

-Well, I think probably about £40,000.

-Four zero?

0:36:450:36:50

Four zero, zero, zero, zero.

0:36:500:36:53

OK, thank you very, very much!

0:36:530:36:55

Well, hello dear, welcome back!

0:36:550:36:57

My God!

0:36:570:36:59

What a lovely old lady!

0:36:590:37:02

We found them in a local antique shop.

0:37:050:37:08

I think they'd been in there for a little while

0:37:080:37:10

and people just by-passed them.

0:37:100:37:13

The only thing they could really tell us

0:37:130:37:15

was that they think they're about 100 years old

0:37:150:37:18

and they think they could have come from Belgium or Germany,

0:37:180:37:23

possibly from a fairground,

0:37:230:37:25

but they didn't, not really much information on them.

0:37:250:37:28

Where do you keep them?

0:37:280:37:29

He lives in our bedroom, and he lives in our front room.

0:37:310:37:34

-You have this clown in your bedroom?

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:37:340:37:37

I'm not 100%, but I don't think these are 100 years old.

0:37:370:37:42

-I think that the chances are, they may date from around about 1960.

-OK.

0:37:420:37:47

And I say that purely from a stylistic point of view.

0:37:470:37:51

I wouldn't necessarily have said Germany.

0:37:510:37:53

I can't rule it out, because they've got more of an Italian look to them.

0:37:530:37:56

-OK.

-So I think that just might be where they started off life.

0:37:560:38:01

Do you know, when it comes to what were they used for,

0:38:010:38:04

I think they're the obvious thing for a fairground, aren't they?

0:38:040:38:07

So I think they are, they are props.

0:38:070:38:10

-I have to say, by the way, that they are ceramic.

-Oh, right.

0:38:100:38:14

Because I tapped this one and it gave a funny metallic feel to it,

0:38:140:38:17

but they are ceramic. And do you know what?

0:38:170:38:20

I like these clowns, and I'll tell you why I like them,

0:38:200:38:23

because they make me smile.

0:38:230:38:26

And anything that can lift your spirits in this day and age,

0:38:260:38:30

-is worth having in your home.

-Yes.

0:38:300:38:33

Because I've never seen a pair before sold.

0:38:330:38:35

How much did they ask you, when you had to buy them?

0:38:350:38:38

-700 for the two.

-For the two?

-Yes.

0:38:380:38:40

I think that's a pretty good investment.

0:38:400:38:43

I don't think you'd have any problems

0:38:430:38:45

finding somebody prepared to pay £1,000.

0:38:450:38:50

-Find me another pair.

-Yeah.

0:38:500:38:52

-That's the interesting question, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:38:520:38:55

The moment to open this strong box has arrived.

0:38:560:38:58

I don't know why, I feel a bit nervous about it.

0:38:580:39:00

And what do you think? Are you excited?

0:39:000:39:02

-AUDIENCE:

-Yes!

0:39:020:39:04

Let's hope there's something in there, then!

0:39:040:39:07

-Do you think you can open it?

-Of course.

0:39:070:39:09

I like your confidence. off you go, then.

0:39:090:39:12

Oh, my goodness!

0:39:240:39:26

-Well!

-It's empty!

0:39:260:39:29

CROWD GASP AND LAUGH

0:39:290:39:33

At least I know, for 25 years, I wasn't sitting on a treasure trove!

0:39:360:39:39

And do you want to know what was making that rattling noise?

0:39:390:39:42

The lid of a Biro!

0:39:440:39:46

CROWD LAUGH AND CLAP

0:39:460:39:48

This could possibly be the worst moment of my entire career!

0:39:520:39:57

Trevor, would Customs be interested in this?

0:39:570:39:59

I'll inform the Minister.

0:39:590:40:02

This is a toy that combines two of my favourite elements.

0:40:240:40:29

One is magic,

0:40:290:40:32

and the other is the very earliest use of entertainment for children.

0:40:320:40:38

Now, how did you get it?

0:40:380:40:40

Well, it's been passed down from my husband's grandmother.

0:40:400:40:45

-Yes.

-And that's all we know about it.

0:40:450:40:48

We have called it "the toy" but we don't know anything about it,

0:40:480:40:54

the age, or in fact whether it was a children's toy

0:40:540:40:58

or amusements for adults.

0:40:580:41:02

I don't know and we'd just like to know more about it.

0:41:020:41:06

Well, is it a toy? Is it demonstrating a scientific property?

0:41:060:41:10

Is it a piece of mystery? It's a bit of everything.

0:41:100:41:14

Let me show what it does.

0:41:140:41:15

There is a wonderful piece of magic because on the easel at the moment

0:41:150:41:19

is this portrait that he's completed, a portrait of a lady,

0:41:190:41:24

but we might say, "We're rather bored with that,

0:41:240:41:27

"what we'd really like is a naval battle scene,"

0:41:270:41:31

so we put that coaster underneath the box

0:41:310:41:36

and suddenly that scene appears on the artist's easel.

0:41:360:41:40

How does it happen?

0:41:400:41:42

Now, a magician should never give away the secret of the trick.

0:41:420:41:46

However, underneath here is a circle, a disc of paper

0:41:460:41:52

and on the disc is painted all the different scenes

0:41:520:41:57

that you see here, in miniature,

0:41:570:42:01

and as you put the scene underneath the box,

0:42:010:42:06

so through magnets, inside the box and on the picture itself,

0:42:060:42:11

-so the right little version of that painting appears on his easel.

-Yes.

0:42:110:42:17

I mean, it's simple when you know how,

0:42:170:42:19

but if you didn't know about magnets, gosh, that's exciting.

0:42:190:42:23

Looking at the prints on it,

0:42:240:42:27

they look almost 1720s-1750s,

0:42:270:42:32

and you think to yourself,

0:42:320:42:34

-"Well, I wonder if it could be dating from that period."

-Mm, yes.

0:42:340:42:38

-But actually I think it's a good deal later than that.

-Yes.

0:42:380:42:41

My own feeling is that it's dating from perhaps 1810-1820.

0:42:410:42:45

So this artist with his various different scenes,

0:42:450:42:50

what's he going to be worth?

0:42:500:42:52

I'm going to put a value of between £500 and £700 on it.

0:42:520:42:56

Right, yes.

0:42:560:42:58

And I have a feeling people might be queuing up to pay that for it.

0:42:580:43:02

Well, now, you've brought along this brooch which,

0:43:040:43:08

I have to be honest with you, is pretty distressed.

0:43:080:43:12

This is broken off and in the normal scheme of things,

0:43:120:43:17

I doubt very much I would have given it a second look.

0:43:170:43:21

It's designed as a hoop

0:43:210:43:22

and then the top of it is designed as a sort of a stylised ram's head.

0:43:220:43:27

Any idea where it came from?

0:43:270:43:29

Yes. A maiden aunt of mine gave it to me many years ago.

0:43:290:43:34

I don't know where she had it from. I kind of thought it was Victorian.

0:43:340:43:39

Well, I would agree with you, it's 19th century,

0:43:390:43:41

made in around about 1865, that sort of period.

0:43:410:43:45

It's a good example of what we call revivalist jewellery.

0:43:450:43:48

But it's in worse than good condition, it's broken off,

0:43:480:43:52

it's a bit worn, it's a bit bent, it's a bit tired, bit miserable.

0:43:520:43:55

Sorry about that, John.

0:43:550:43:57

LAUGHTER

0:43:570:44:00

But, a feature that needs to be pointed out.

0:44:000:44:03

Did you happen to see that there?

0:44:030:44:05

There's two little tiny back-to-back letter Cs.

0:44:050:44:08

-Did you ever see that?

-No, I didn't.

-You didn't, did you?

0:44:080:44:11

No, I didn't.

0:44:110:44:12

Well, now I'm going to tell you something.

0:44:120:44:14

Those back-to-back Cs are the monogram

0:44:140:44:17

of someone called Fortunato Pio Castellani.

0:44:170:44:20

One of the great names.

0:44:200:44:22

19th century revivalist goldsmith working in Rome,

0:44:220:44:26

producing this kind of jewellery

0:44:260:44:28

that looks as if it was sort of Roman or Etruscan

0:44:280:44:31

and his jewellery is incredibly collectable today.

0:44:310:44:35

So in spite of the damage, I know it's in less than perfect condition,

0:44:350:44:38

but get that restoration done, you're talking about

0:44:380:44:41

the best part of £1,000 for it.

0:44:410:44:44

Really? Oh, goodness.

0:44:440:44:47

Just because of that Castellani mark.

0:44:470:44:50

Oh, and I lost it some years ago.

0:44:500:44:52

I put an ad in the local press with a reward

0:44:520:44:55

-and somebody rang and they'd found it.

-Meant to be.

0:44:550:44:58

-So it was, wasn't it? Thank you, John.

-What a find, thank you.

0:44:580:45:02

Do you know, when I was asked to come down to Falmouth

0:45:050:45:08

to do the Roadshow, who's the artist I really wanted to see?

0:45:080:45:10

Henry Scott Tuke, and here we have three.

0:45:100:45:13

I looked at these and I thought, "Mm, somebody must have stolen them

0:45:130:45:17

"from Falmouth Polytechnic," or are you from Falmouth Polytechnic?

0:45:170:45:21

I am from Falmouth Polytech, yes,

0:45:210:45:23

I'm one of the joint curators of this marvellous collection.

0:45:230:45:27

We have 279 Tukes, it's the largest collection in public hands

0:45:270:45:31

in this country and it's a living collection.

0:45:310:45:35

Although a bulk were given to us in the '60s by someone

0:45:350:45:37

who also persuaded his friends to give further paintings,

0:45:370:45:40

it's still, we're still collecting.

0:45:400:45:44

We have a catalogue of 277

0:45:440:45:47

which was only done about two or three years ago

0:45:470:45:49

and now we have already received two more Tukes to add to the collection.

0:45:490:45:54

I think it's fantastic, and especially down in Cornwall.

0:45:540:45:57

You know, dear old Tuke, he's been a hero of mine for years

0:45:570:46:00

and if you said to me,

0:46:000:46:01

"Who of The Newlyn School do you really admire?"

0:46:010:46:04

Stanhope Forbes, yeah, but Tuke is the one I absolutely love

0:46:040:46:08

because he went through these various periods

0:46:080:46:11

and you've got three pictures here from sort of different periods.

0:46:110:46:14

And so we'll start from the more modern one here

0:46:140:46:17

which is a sketch for Morning Splendour.

0:46:170:46:21

Yes, study for Morning Splendour.

0:46:210:46:23

And the original of that is in Baden Powell House.

0:46:230:46:25

Baden Powell House, it was bought for the Scout Movement, yes.

0:46:250:46:28

Because you know, when these were originally shown,

0:46:280:46:31

the type with the nudes in and the naked boys,

0:46:310:46:35

it was very, in Edwardian times, you know,

0:46:350:46:37

it was a bit frowned on at the RA.

0:46:370:46:39

You know, this was breaking new ground.

0:46:390:46:42

And, you know, people sort of tended to raise an eyebrow.

0:46:420:46:45

But the one thing that he does, that a lot of the other artists

0:46:450:46:48

of that period don't, he gets the light.

0:46:480:46:50

The light on the backs of their shoulders, the light on the sea,

0:46:500:46:53

and this wonderful... It's that Edwardian period, it's early 1900s,

0:46:530:46:58

and he did that right up to the 1920s, those sort of pictures.

0:46:580:47:01

Yes, and it's an idyllic period

0:47:010:47:03

and when you think what's going to come,

0:47:030:47:05

-the First World War...

-Absolutely.

-..it makes it even more idyllic.

0:47:050:47:09

-Absolutely, and it's Cornwall at its best.

-Yes.

0:47:090:47:11

Then we come down here to the harbour scene in Falmouth

0:47:110:47:15

with the fisherman in his rowing boat.

0:47:150:47:18

A large example.

0:47:180:47:20

-It appears to be the only one in the original Tuke frame.

-Yes.

0:47:200:47:23

-This is the standard Tuke frame.

-Yes.

0:47:230:47:25

I'm a bit of a fusspot because I love them in this sort of frame.

0:47:250:47:28

And the wet watercolour look, this wet look you get,

0:47:280:47:32

he was so good in oil and in watercolour,

0:47:320:47:34

and you've really got the movement of the boat here,

0:47:340:47:37

and I love all the moored boats here. It's just fantastic.

0:47:370:47:40

That is quite interesting because this is actually painted

0:47:400:47:43

-from his studio on Castle House Quay.

-Oh, yes.

0:47:430:47:46

And the building is still there.

0:47:460:47:48

How interesting. And he also worked from a boat, didn't he?

0:47:480:47:50

He did, but that was painted from a boat.

0:47:500:47:52

-Yeah, and this is on Lily, he painted on Lily?

-Yes.

0:47:520:47:54

We come to this picture and to me, this is, of all Tukes,

0:47:540:48:00

the iconic Tuke. I remember buying cards of this in the 1970s

0:48:000:48:04

because I just thought it was just so fantastic. Our Jack.

0:48:040:48:09

Our Jack, of course, is Jack Rowland,

0:48:090:48:11

the model that he used a lot, but it's just the natural look,

0:48:110:48:14

the way he's looking out at you, with Falmouth in the background,

0:48:140:48:17

the sails. Tuke understood about water and about the feeling,

0:48:170:48:23

you know, of sail,

0:48:230:48:25

and the interesting thing about the dates on these.

0:48:250:48:28

You've got this one which was done 1920s, 1921 as a sketch.

0:48:280:48:34

The one down here which is 1904,

0:48:340:48:39

and then the one of Jack Rowland

0:48:390:48:44

-which is in the 1880s.

-Yeah.

0:48:440:48:47

And to me, that's the crucial period for him.

0:48:470:48:49

Absolutely fantastic, so we've got the two oils

0:48:490:48:52

and the watercolour, and even though it's a sketch and it's unsigned,

0:48:520:48:55

that is worth certainly £20,000 to £30,000 for that one.

0:48:550:49:01

This one here, the watercolour,

0:49:010:49:03

I think it's an exceptionally big one for him and it's really good.

0:49:030:49:06

I think that could make £20,000, the watercolour,

0:49:060:49:09

which is a lot of money for one like that.

0:49:090:49:13

But now we come to Our Jack, the iconic picture.

0:49:130:49:17

Now, you know, people say, "Oh, if it's big, a big nude,

0:49:170:49:21

"we know that they make, can make £100,000."

0:49:210:49:24

But I look at this

0:49:240:49:25

and it's got everything good in the right size picture

0:49:250:49:27

and I know that if that came up,

0:49:270:49:31

that's a £200,000 painting in auction.

0:49:310:49:35

It is that iconic.

0:49:350:49:37

So, when you add the whole lot up, you're getting up from £240,000

0:49:370:49:41

to £300,000 so then you have to add more on for replacement because,

0:49:410:49:47

you know, and to replace these you'd probably have to put

0:49:470:49:51

at least £500,000 on those three.

0:49:510:49:53

And how fantastic the Falmouth Polytechnic has them

0:49:530:49:55

and they're on view to the public and long may everybody enjoy them.

0:49:550:50:00

Thank you and I hope they will.

0:50:000:50:02

-When I was about your age...

-Yeah.

0:50:060:50:09

..in my grandfather's shed was a little mower quite similar to that.

0:50:090:50:12

-Oh, right.

-And I used to cut the grass with it.

0:50:120:50:15

Yes, what manufacturer was it?

0:50:150:50:17

-What manufacturer? I think it was Webb.

-Oh, right.

0:50:170:50:21

Um, that would probably be a Whippet,

0:50:210:50:23

might have been a Wasp or maybe a Witch.

0:50:230:50:26

Goodness me, so this is a subject about which you know

0:50:260:50:30

an awful lot by the sound of it.

0:50:300:50:31

Yeah, I mean I've got a collection, roughly 30 of them,

0:50:310:50:34

and I obviously collect them,

0:50:340:50:36

I've been collecting them about four years and learning about them.

0:50:360:50:41

And it's just my hobby, really.

0:50:410:50:43

-Goodness me. So, 30 lawn mowers in only four years.

-Yeah.

0:50:430:50:47

-Where do you store them?

-I keep six of them in my bedroom.

0:50:470:50:52

-Right!

-And I keep all the rest in my shed.

0:50:520:50:56

OK, well, again when I was your age,

0:50:560:50:59

-I collected things in a really crazy way.

-Right.

0:50:590:51:04

And I think the human race is divided into two types.

0:51:040:51:07

-There are those of us who collect and those of us who don't.

-Yeah.

0:51:070:51:11

-And we're both collectors.

-OK.

0:51:110:51:13

Can you tell me something about these?

0:51:130:51:15

Well, that one at the back there, I've refurbished that.

0:51:150:51:17

-You did this yourself?

-Yeah, with another collector.

0:51:170:51:22

Good Lord. It looks beautiful.

0:51:220:51:23

It's an 1898 Green Salenz Metal,

0:51:230:51:27

they made roughly a million of them between 1869 and 1939.

0:51:270:51:32

This is obviously the eight inch cut and one of the things

0:51:320:51:36

that I find interesting about it is this casting on the side here,

0:51:360:51:41

-that's unique, that particular piece of handle.

-Right.

0:51:410:51:45

But that number, as far as I know,

0:51:450:51:46

-that's unique to that mower.

-Wow. And this one?

0:51:460:51:49

This one, this is an 1880s, I believe, or maybe 1890s,

0:51:490:51:54

-it's a Follows and Bates Manchester.

-Right.

0:51:540:51:58

And I only know of seven of these in existence.

0:51:580:52:01

Where did you get that?

0:52:010:52:03

I got this online, on an online auction site, about...

0:52:030:52:06

I think it must have been three months ago.

0:52:060:52:09

Good Lord.

0:52:090:52:10

-Well, in this strange reversal of roles, you are the expert.

-Right.

0:52:100:52:14

-So instead of telling you, because I don't know.

-Yes.

0:52:140:52:18

I'm going to ask you to tell me what it's worth.

0:52:180:52:20

Would you have any idea on what it's worth?

0:52:200:52:22

I haven't got a clue, I just haven't got a clue.

0:52:220:52:25

OK, this one at the back here, one of these recently sold

0:52:250:52:28

on an online auction site, three months back,

0:52:280:52:31

-for I believe it was around £300.

-Wow.

0:52:310:52:34

And then this one at the front here, very rare, only seven of them,

0:52:340:52:38

-as far as I know, so that might be more like £500.

-Good Lord.

0:52:380:52:43

So altogether this is maybe £800 worth of lawnmowers.

0:52:430:52:47

Wowee, you're a rich young man. Well, I have to say,

0:52:470:52:50

I'm completely bowled over by how much you know about these things.

0:52:500:52:54

You know everything there is to be known by the sounds of it.

0:52:540:52:58

You are a true expert and a true collector.

0:52:580:53:01

I've seen a few standing cups in my time, but I've never seen

0:53:040:53:08

anything quite as impressive and magnificent as this.

0:53:080:53:13

Standing cups developed in Germany in the 16th and 17th centuries

0:53:130:53:18

and were relatively common there, but over here they're much rarer.

0:53:180:53:22

But apart from the obvious magnificence of the size,

0:53:220:53:26

this has got a very curious inscription,

0:53:260:53:29

which I'm going to take the lid off and read.

0:53:290:53:33

It says "1633, from mayor to mayor,

0:53:330:53:39

"to the town of Penmarrin,

0:53:390:53:41

"when they received me, it was in great misery. Jane Killigrew."

0:53:410:53:46

What's all that about?

0:53:460:53:48

Well, Jane Killigrew was married - Lady Jane Killigrew -

0:53:480:53:51

was married to Sir John Killigrew and they lived in Falmouth.

0:53:510:53:55

She was a bit of a naughty girl and not very happy in her marriage

0:53:550:53:59

and she had an affair with the governor of Pendennis Castle,

0:53:590:54:04

in Falmouth, and as a result of this, Sir John sued for divorce.

0:54:040:54:09

-She ran away and hid in Penryn, took refuge in Penryn.

-Yes.

0:54:090:54:15

-Which is a town about a mile up the road.

-Yes.

0:54:150:54:18

She stayed with us for about 20 years

0:54:180:54:22

and she finally got her divorce

0:54:220:54:25

and as part of her marriage portion,

0:54:250:54:30

when she got her divorce, she apparently bought this cup

0:54:300:54:35

and presented it to the town of Penryn and we've had it since 1633.

0:54:350:54:40

And to bring it up to the modern days,

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-every time we have a new mayor go into office...

-Yes.

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The outgoing mayor passes it to the incoming mayor for safe keeping.

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-Very unique.

-Well, absolutely unique.

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Interestingly enough, it was made in London

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because on here we've got a lovely set of hallmarks.

0:54:590:55:04

It has a date letter here which is actually for one year earlier, 1632,

0:55:040:55:09

but the date letters ran from May to May

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rather than January to January, so that doesn't surprise me

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that the date is engraved one year later,

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and it also has the maker's mark, RS.

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He is a known maker, but we don't know what his name is,

0:55:210:55:25

but he is recorded as making mainly church silver, so he's gone out

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of his comfort zone here and made something quite spectacular.

0:55:300:55:34

And the only ones I've really seen that are vaguely similar to this

0:55:340:55:38

are what are called steeple cups

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and on the lid of a steeple cup would be literally a silver steeple.

0:55:410:55:46

But I can't remember ever picking up a cup of this date,

0:55:460:55:51

-and we're talking of a period of Charles I.

-Mm-hmm.

0:55:510:55:54

One of such fantastic size.

0:55:540:55:57

It's a great colour and the story behind it is just superb

0:55:570:56:02

and she must have been one very, very grateful lady

0:56:020:56:06

-because this was an expensive piece of silver in its day.

-Yes, yes.

0:56:060:56:11

Now the Killigrews, from what I've heard,

0:56:110:56:14

some of them were almost near pirates and isn't Jane supposedly...

0:56:140:56:19

Was she a pirate or was she muddled up with somebody else or...?

0:56:190:56:22

What's the story about that?

0:56:220:56:23

-Well, I think she's much maligned, I don't think she was a pirate.

-No.

0:56:230:56:26

But I do think that her mother-in-law, Mary Killigrew,

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was a pirate because she was nearly sent to the gallows

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for her pirate's... I think she raided some ships,

0:56:320:56:36

-some Spanish ships and took them to Ireland.

-Yes.

0:56:360:56:40

And she got into big trouble and they nearly hung her.

0:56:400:56:42

She got pardoned but I think Jane is always looked on as a pirate

0:56:420:56:46

but I don't think she was a pirate. I don't know.

0:56:460:56:48

It can only happen in Cornwall, you can have lady pirates.

0:56:480:56:51

Oh, yes, yes, yes. They're still around, yeah.

0:56:510:56:55

Well, this is an exceptional object, absolutely exceptional,

0:56:550:57:00

and it's such a real pleasure for me to even see something,

0:57:000:57:06

let alone handle it like this, and because of that,

0:57:060:57:09

we're looking at something that's pretty valuable.

0:57:090:57:12

I'm thinking it's got to be worth between £100,000 and £150,000.

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GASPS OF ASTONISHMENT

0:57:180:57:20

Gosh.

0:57:220:57:24

Well, that's really good news.

0:57:240:57:27

Penryn's very proud of its cup and that will be...

0:57:270:57:29

-I think they should be.

-It's wonderful to know.

0:57:290:57:32

The story, the object, everything about it is magical,

0:57:320:57:38

so I doubt if I'll ever see a cup like this again on the Roadshow.

0:57:380:57:43

Yes, I doubt if it will ever come out of Penryn again,

0:57:430:57:46

it hasn't been out since 1633 so...

0:57:460:57:48

Yeah, but thank you so much for bringing it along.

0:57:480:57:51

It's been a pleasure, thank you very much, thank you.

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And what an amazing way to end our show.

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We've seen some marvellous items today.

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The strong box was one of them, its contents sadly are not.

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From the Antiques Roadshow in Falmouth

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and our strong box and our team, until next time, bye-bye.

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