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Today we're in the bustling city centre of Exeter,

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and tucked away, just off the high street, is this beautiful green.

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And from Roman bathhouse to Saxon monastery to Gothic cathedral,

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it's been at the heart of the city's history for 2,000 years.

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Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Exeter Cathedral in Devon.

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Walking through Exeter Cathedral, it's wonderfully calm and serene,

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but cathedrals weren't always the quiet,

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reverential places we expect today.

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This hush is a relatively modern Victorian invention.

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Before then, as the biggest building right in the heart of the city,

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the cathedral was a noisy community space that attracted

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all sorts of characters.

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For centuries the clergy had to deal with people shooting birds

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nesting in the walls, ball games that broke windows,

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cutpurses and pick-pockets stealing from worshippers.

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Even a murder.

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It wasn't just people that were a problem.

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Behind that door is where the dog whipper lived.

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His job was to round up all the stray dogs that would

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wander around the cathedral every day.

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He would look down from his window, from his room up there,

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and if he saw any, he'd be straight down to shoo them out.

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And this is what he used, the dog whipper's staff, poor things.

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It's still used today, but only for ceremonial purposes

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and it's carried by the verger during services.

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The cathedral had another unusual employee on the books,

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to deal with a different animal problem and help keep time.

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This wonderful astronomical clock was fitted in 1484 and behind here,

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rodents would nibble away at the ropes of the clock's inner workings,

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no doubt attracted by the animal fat which was used as a lubricant.

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So a little hole was cut into the door leading to the clock workings,

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so a cat could get in and catch the mice.

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The cat was even listed as a member of the cathedral staff

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and had a regular salary. A penny a week.

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And that's Tom,

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who lost an eye in a fight with an owl for a rat in the cathedral.

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He looks quite fierce, but apparently he was a real pussy cat.

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Outside, our experts are ready for their challenging but somewhat

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safer task of inspecting all the items brought along by our visitors.

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But you know, don't wait for our experts to

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give their valuations, why don't you have a go with our valuation game.

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Just press red on your remote control, or you can

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play along with our app on your smartphone or on your tablet.

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It really is a very unusual clock. Do you like it?

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I love it, absolutely love it.

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Do you know where it was made? Have you any idea about it at all?

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No, only that it was left to my godmother

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by an uncle who lived in Bond Street, I believe owned

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a property at Bond Street years ago, that's all I know.

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Well, that would make sense because this was a wealthy man's object.

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In the loose sense of the word, a carriage clock.

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So let's see if we can have any sort of ideas as to who might have

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made it, and we are helped very much.

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On the bottom there it says "Tiffany & Co"

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and it says "Sterling silver"

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and it says 925 parts of 1,000 silver.

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So, do you know much about Tiffany?

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Um, only sort of, you know, the obvious Tiffany jewellery and...

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Exactly, well, Tiffany was given by his father a chunk of money

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in the 19th century and started producing all sorts of goodies.

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This is absolutely typical of the output of Tiffany from 1895 to 1905.

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Top of the range, it's a cracking good thing,

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the sort of product that they would have had manufactured for the

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US market, because remember they had outlets then in Paris

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-and in Regent Street, London.

-Oh.

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I mean, we've got these wonderful pineapple finials,

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they really are lovely, and then running down here,

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this is all, of course, solid silver.

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We've got these little cherubs

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gambolling around in this scene, and then on the sides we've got musical

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trophies, the whole thing with four free-standing fluted columns.

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And the movement of the clock is French throughout,

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but under there,

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bit of a giveaway, "Tiffany & Co, New York".

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Just looking at the movement, it's probably going to be

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one of the better makers, somebody like Drocourt.

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And you might or might not have noticed the two gongs

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and three hammers. Do you know what they do?

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No! Oh, it chimes, but I've never heard it.

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-You've never heard it?!

-No.

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-Shall we just have a quick listen to that?

-Ooh, yes, please.

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So the easiest thing to do is just move it on, so here we go.

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CLOCK CHIMES

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Do you hear that?

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-Yes.

-Just starting to do the hours.

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CLOCK CHIMES

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And then having finished the hours, it will do the quarters,

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-ding dong, ding dong.

-Oh.

-Let's see if it does.

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CLOCK CHIMES There we go.

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-Oh.

-Where's this been for the last eight years?

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-In a cupboard!

-If I'm going to tell you the price,

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I want you to promise me you'll get it out of that cupboard,

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-maybe have it cleaned and overhauled, and use it.

-Right.

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-Promise me and then I'll tell you the price.

-Yes, I promise.

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OK, at auction in that state, it's going to fetch between £5,000

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-and £8,000.

-Oh.

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So it's worth spending a few hundred pounds to have the movement cleaned.

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-Right.

-You've made the promise, now use it, please.

-Right, will do.

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To have a box dated 1693, I'm trying not to be jealous.

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You must have done your research. What did you find out?

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Well, we don't know very much about it.

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It belongs to my father-in-law, who received from his Auntie Ethel.

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She used to keep pins and buttons in it and she lived in North Wales,

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and other than that, we don't really know much about it.

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And you've never done any checking out?

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No, no, I haven't.

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This, to me, is just as pretty as it comes.

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It's not particularly well made, it's naive,

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but the construction of it is charming.

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I mean, "For you, the best is not too good."

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It's such, it just couldn't be nicer, in my view.

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Whether it's for tobacco, I don't know,

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They're usually called tobacco boxes

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but I just think they're sweetheart boxes just for general use.

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But dated 1693.

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I mean, do you know what the construction is made of?

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Well, I don't, that's what I wanted to find out.

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Any guesses? You must have.

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Well, my husband thought it might be whale bone, but I've no idea.

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-Not whale bone.

-Right.

-Unless it's a rare whale with horns.

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-It's made of horn.

-Ah, right.

-So, and you can see here

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and some people confuse it with ivory or marine ivory,

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-i.e. walrus tusks.

-Yes.

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But this is horn, and horn has this very sort of distinctive,

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you know, shading almost.

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But someone at some point has been cheeky because here,

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-this started off life as WL.

-Yes.

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-And they've changed it to WB.

-Yes.

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But all that, to me, adds to it.

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-1693 in the reign of William and Mary.

-Yes.

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This pique work round the border here,

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someone has really taken the time and it's really quite rare.

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-I mean, I think easily £500.

-Gosh, lovely, right.

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-For that bit.

-Oh, right.

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Another thousand for that bit.

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Oh, really?!

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-£1,500 all day long.

-Right.

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-Because that is stunning. Thank you.

-Thank you, thank you very much.

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So, when I see an object like this, it's almost like it's opening

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a door to real history, you know, this is not an abstract.

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This, to me,

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takes me in to Nicholas Cornock,

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who was clearly alive in 1726.

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Ooh, it gives me little goose bumps, it really, really does.

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-So who was he?

-As far as I can determine, I believe,

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a family of wine merchants in Somerset,

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but I haven't been able to find out any more information yet.

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Wine merchants. Mostly the seals are owners, owners of the bottle.

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When Pepys records having seen his own bottles filled at the Mitre

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Tavern in 1663, he observes that "They had my name wrote upon them."

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So, I suspect that wine merchant is feasible,

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but I think it's a private owner.

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-So how does it come into your life?

-Handed down from my grandparents.

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Oh, lovely. Let's examine the bottle itself.

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What happened is that the bottle first appears, the English bottle,

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melted on coal furnaces which gave it the edge, it was a hard glass,

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harder than ever previously made anywhere in the world.

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This was a major breakthrough.

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That bottle, the first one, was almost spherical, a globe,

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but it had the tendency to fall over, so in a design progression,

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what happened is that it grew a big bottom for stability.

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-Like a ship's decanter.

-Precisely, like a ship's decanter.

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The other notable thing about it is this flange here,

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this disc of glass which is called the string rim.

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This is pre-cork, so wooden wedges were used

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so they'd drive a wooden wedge in there, bash, bash, bash,

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and then hold it in by getting some sail, or wagon cloth.

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You placed it over and then you tied

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it down against the string rim.

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And then, when you came to open this bottle,

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first of all you removed the string, then you took away the cloth.

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The way you got this out, was you got this thing like a nail, and you

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drove the nail into the stopper,

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as it were, made of wood probably,

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and you prised it out, and that's

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why they're invariably chipped.

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Look at that, chipped in one area.

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That's evidence, not of somebody careless later in time,

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but absolutely contemporaneous.

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And that actually doesn't affect the value, because it is fully

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expected, and if it hasn't got one, you start asking why.

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So, these things are collected and what's happened is that

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fine wine drinkers are the collectors of them.

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They're very sought after and an example like this,

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a really classic example, without a seal, for instance, this would be

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£300 or £400, £500,

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but you add the seal,

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name and date, oh, you know, that's the full packet, you know,

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that's what they want and that propels its value

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to between £2,500 and £3,500.

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And if you were to actually tie him down to an individual

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living there, then, that's another grand on top.

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-So go and find out who he was.

-I'll do my best.

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It's in your interest to do so. Good on ya.

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"Dear Sandra, thanks for your letter..." Are you Sandra?

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I am.

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And the letter is written, signed, by George Harrison,

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-how fabulous is that?

-I'm hoping it's really him.

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Well, there's a whole lot of memorabilia in this one frame

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and it tells a really great story.

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First of all, I want to hear your story, which,

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is this a ticket that relates...?

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-Yeah.

-OK, tell me how it goes.

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I went to boarding school in Cheltenham

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and in the summer holidays in 1963

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I went to Llandudno, to see The Beatles,

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got back to school for the winter term and four of us

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decided we were in love with them, and would write to them.

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-Did you each have a different one?

-Yes.

-Oh, that's handy, then, yeah.

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So I, I was in love with George, yes, we all had a different one.

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I wrote to George and I enclosed a stamped addressed envelope,

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the others didn't.

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And I suppose it was about a week later that I got this back.

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So, let's have a look here.

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It tells a very interesting story, there's the letter,

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which we'll go into in just a second, there's

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a page of signatures and there's the envelope to you at the Oriel School.

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Now describe the moment when that letter arrived at school.

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Very excited, there was crowds all round behind me and I took it out

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and everybody screamed,

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and it was read out in assembly.

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It was read out in assembly?!

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What, the letter was?

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It was quite exciting.

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Wonderful. Well, I mean, let's look at 1963 for The Beatles.

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By the time they had got to Llandudno on the 15th August

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they'd done about 160 dates of concerts.

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A few days after this, the 23rd August, She Loves You

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came out and then bang,

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suddenly everything went completely bonkers,

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if it hadn't been bonkers already.

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And then we have the letter, which is slightly interesting,

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because it says, "Thank you for your kind comments, ta.

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"I had a great time in America."

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Now, you and I know that The Beatles didn't go to America

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until 1964, February '64 they went to America.

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That's what I'm hoping you might tell me.

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Well, I can tell you something about George in America.

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He goes on to say, "I had a great time in America,

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"but I didn't like New York as much as I'd expected.

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"It's a big unfriendly and lonely kind of place."

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George and his brother, Peter,

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went to America in September 1963 to visit his sister Louise in Illinois.

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Wow. So... It's probably genuine, then.

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It's even more genuine than one would imagine,

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because it's actually mentioning something that actually very

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few people outside the sort of real Beatle fans really know.

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And then it goes on, "I'm sorry I haven't got any photos with me,

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"so I'll just send you the note and autographs if you want them."

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-Ha, ha, ha, as if you wouldn't.

-Yeah.

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"Must go, love from George Harrison."

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So there we have this great letter from George

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and then we have the signatures.

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And I can tell you that I'm afraid the signatures are not

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by The Beatles.

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They are by a Beatle.

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George signed them all.

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-How interesting.

-And I tell you, it was,

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I'm led to believe it was George's party trick almost till

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the day he died, that he could sit down and do everybody's signature.

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-Wow, that's pretty good, actually.

-It's not bad, is it?

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No, it's not bad.

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OK, so this is a valuation in two halves, really, it's

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a good news and a bad news story.

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The good news is that the letter, I would say, would be

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worth £1,500 to £2,000.

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-If the signatures had been...

-Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes, you know where I'm going here.

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had the signatures been genuine, it would have at least doubled.

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-But still, I mean...

-Oh, it's fascinating.

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It IS fascinating.

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I can just picture you aged 16,

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opening that letter at school in Cheltenham.

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# La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la

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# If there's anything that you want

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# If there's anything I can do

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# Just call on me

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# And I'll send it along

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# With love, from me to you

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# To you

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# To you, to you. #

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This is a beautiful mahogany table.

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They're always called architect's tables, but we know you can

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-use it for any writing and reading purpose, can't you?

-Yes, correct.

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I love this, I just want to show the top for people who haven't

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seen these, the way, when you lift the top, which is on a ratchet,

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hear it, like that, and of course this opens at the same time.

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But I think the...many of us have seen these before but what

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-we haven't seen is this plaque. Can you explain that to me?

-Yes.

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This plaque is to the effect

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that this table was used by Bonnie Prince Charlie

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at Kingsburgh House, Isle of Skye, in 1745.

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It was the time he was fleeing after Culloden,

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and the Red Coats were after him,

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and he was with Flora MacDonald dressed as a maid,

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and from there he took a trip to France.

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I've got a slight conundrum here. I'm sort of stuck in the middle.

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If I'd been asked to date this without that plaque,

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I would say 1750 at the absolute earliest, and 1760.

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So I'm stuck. How good is this provenance?

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I've no doubt about it at all.

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It's been in the family all of 250 years

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and we have no reason to think that it wasn't used

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by Bonnie Prince Charlie.

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So, literally, you can trace it right back, can you?

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It's in books and recorded and so on...

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-Oh, right, right.

-..as being so.

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-Right, right.

-They were Campbells, my relations,

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who lived at Kingsburgh.

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How sophisticated was the house? Because Skye 1745...

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Not very sophisticated and it doesn't exist any more,

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it's been knocked down.

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I wanted to go and see it, and was told it's no longer there.

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But my ancestor James Boswell, and Samuel Johnson,

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visited Kingsburgh House and also I think saw this desk too,

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when they went on their Hebridean Tour, which is recorded.

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-So they're ancestors as well?

-Ancestors as well, yes.

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I just wish I knew when the first one of these was ever made,

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-ever designed.

-Yes.

-Because my feeling is,

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in 1745, this was sort of

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sent from London on the first boat.

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We can't prove it, but your family history,

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plus the Boswell/Johnson visit is fantastic.

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To have that sort of history with a piece of furniture is very unusual.

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Um, a real conundrum.

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I'm not sure what to do about the date.

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Let's just talk for a second about this.

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These brass plates have been added on to strengthen it.

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-Yes.

-At some stage, probably in the 18th century

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and just to demonstrate, for those who haven't seen this before,

0:19:230:19:26

I won't go right into it, this slides back

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and we've got pigeonholes, secret drawers no doubt.

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-That's right, yes, secret drawers.

-Lots of little things going on.

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So we have a conundrum here.

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These architects' desks are beautiful.

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-I love it and I'm sure you love it.

-Yeah.

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But they don't sell very well in the auction rooms.

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They're quite popular in the antique shops but not everybody's after one.

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What we've got here is provenance, somebody from, a Stuart descendant

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from the Campbell family, somebody who knows the house, knows Skye.

0:19:520:19:55

But I can't really give you the value with the provenance,

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because we've got to really prove that one of these existed in 1745.

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-But in a shop, £10,000 to £12,000, something like that.

-Yes.

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Judging by the colour and the condition of this little cup,

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it looks like it's been through the wars a bit.

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Do you know anything about its history?

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Well, yes, it was found on my grandparents' farm,

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over 100 years ago, early 20th century.

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And it was during renovations

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and it was in the thatch of the old farmhouse.

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Is this the farmhouse here, the picture you've brought along?

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Yes, Batson Hall.

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When the thatch, it was being slated

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they found this and it appeared to have been hidden.

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So it quite likely was in the wars,

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but that would have been the Civil War.

0:20:430:20:45

Yes, and a lot of silver was actually hidden from...

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Yes, they used to like to make it into coins and that,

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or just take it...

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OK, well, let's have a look at the cup.

0:20:520:20:55

If we look at the front, it's got some initials AB over EW

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and the date, 1641.

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-So that gives us a pretty good idea...

-Yes.

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..that we're looking at a really old piece of silver.

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This form of cup evolved in the reign of James I

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in the early 17th century,

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with these sort of decorated bowls and these long stems.

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-Look quite crude, the decoration, in fact.

-Yes.

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But the interesting thing about this cup is if we turn it round

0:21:200:21:23

and look at the hallmarks, which are really very good indeed,

0:21:230:21:27

the piece was made much earlier than the initials and date.

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It was actually made in 1630.

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Now, something like this

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is a pretty rare object, and early 17th century silver

0:21:350:21:40

doesn't come on the market that often.

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As you know, this has quite serious damage on the base,

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which will obviously have an effect on its value.

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It's really worthwhile considering getting this properly repaired,

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because in really good condition,

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a cup like this is worth £12,000 to £15,000.

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In its current state, the value

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is nearer £6,000 to £8,000

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so it's really worthwhile spending some money...

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-Yes, yes.

-..in having it properly repaired

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because it's essentially a really good piece.

0:22:170:22:21

You've brought me in a school timetable here.

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Who does it relate to?

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It's the timetable of Queen Victoria's children.

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The cousin of my grandfather was tutor and so this is his diary

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and the timetable of what they had to learn.

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-And what was his name?

-His name was Frederick Weymouth Gibbs.

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Right, and he tutored them for how long?

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For ten years from 1851 onwards.

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-Right, OK.

-Fortunately it was left to my grandfather.

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-And then come down to you?

-Yes.

-That's lovely.

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I mean, if we just look, for example, at the timetable,

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what they're learning, you know,

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we've got religion between eight and nine o'clock,

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between nine and 11 they go out.

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11 to 11:30, they go and have their luncheon.

0:23:050:23:09

11:30 to 12 is Latin, then 12 till one is writing.

0:23:090:23:12

We've got German, then they have dinner, then they go out again.

0:23:120:23:15

I've just got an extract here on one day.

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This is the cousin of your grandfather writing.

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"Met the Queen this afternoon and walked with her.

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"She spoke a good deal about the Princes, and bade me notice

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"two peculiarities in the P of W" - in the Prince of Wales,

0:23:280:23:32

"first, at times he hangs his head, and looks at his feet

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"and invariably within a day or two,

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"has one of his fits of nervous unmanageable tempers."

0:23:390:23:43

So this is a first-hand account of the Prince of Wales, future king,

0:23:430:23:48

and when he's going, you know, when he's, he says unmanageable.

0:23:480:23:52

-Yes, it's a wonderful glimpse into history, isn't it?

-Absolutely.

0:23:520:23:56

And there's this, and you brought also these lovely pictures.

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This is one here by "AE".

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Albert Edward, in fact, it's by Edward VII.

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-Right.

-And you can see he was a particularly good artist.

0:24:070:24:10

-He was.

-And his sister was even better.

0:24:100:24:13

I have a painting of hers too in the collection I have.

0:24:130:24:17

Super, and it's dated here 28th February 1855, Buckingham Palace.

0:24:170:24:22

They obviously respected and adored him,

0:24:220:24:25

they're giving their pictures to him as a token of thanks and gratitude.

0:24:250:24:30

It's absolutely wonderful.

0:24:300:24:31

And then this, below it, is a portrait of Victoria.

0:24:310:24:34

Yes, it's a portrait of her by her portraitist Winterhalter,

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and it is signed by Queen Victoria.

0:24:390:24:43

Right, and you've got other things in your collection as well.

0:24:430:24:46

I have a lot of other things, yes.

0:24:460:24:48

A lot of letters from Queen Victoria, things that say

0:24:480:24:52

"to Mr Gibbs from the grief stricken widow," after Prince Albert died,

0:24:520:24:56

-and things like that.

-Fascinating insights.

0:24:560:25:00

It's a lovely archive and it's actually got considerable

0:25:000:25:04

importance, particularly from, obviously, the royal connections.

0:25:040:25:08

It's very much museum quality.

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There's considerable monetary value to it as well.

0:25:100:25:13

I can easily see a portrait like this, on its own,

0:25:130:25:17

-making £40,000 to £60,000 alone.

-That's amazing.

0:25:170:25:22

And then you've got this drawing here which again, I mean,

0:25:220:25:25

it must be worth between, somewhere between £5,000 and £8,000 easily.

0:25:250:25:30

So, you know, these are unique pieces

0:25:300:25:32

and the written account by your grandfather's cousin,

0:25:320:25:36

I can easily see this alone being worth £5,000 to £8,000.

0:25:360:25:39

It's a one-off. So these pieces, if we add them up individually

0:25:390:25:43

must be worth £50,000 to £75,000 at least.

0:25:430:25:46

I must get it into a museum quickly, I think.

0:25:460:25:49

It's time to step into the shadowy world of the faker,

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and this week's Rogues Gallery comes courtesy of our ceramics expert,

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Fergus Gambon, who's supplied us with four pieces of Whieldon Ware,

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earthenware from the mid 18th century.

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Well, I say four pieces. Three pieces are. One of them

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mysteriously appeared in the 1980s and had experts scratching

0:26:200:26:24

their heads trying to work out if it was genuine or if it was fake.

0:26:240:26:27

Now, here's Fergus with some clues as to what to look out for.

0:26:270:26:30

Prepare to choose your colour.

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Suspect number one is what appears to be a classic Whieldon type

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teapot, made some 250 years ago.

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The glaze shows a network of fine cracks known as crazing.

0:26:420:26:46

These are normally an indication of age, but are they to be trusted?

0:26:460:26:50

Object two is perhaps the rarest in the line-up, an unusually

0:26:540:26:57

large tea canister moulded in relief with a figure of Flora.

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It bears the typical Whieldon decoration of coloured oxides

0:27:010:27:04

under a lead glaze,

0:27:040:27:06

creating a surprisingly contemporary tortoiseshell effect.

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It looks plausible, but is it too good to be true?

0:27:080:27:12

Another teapot, with stubby legs.

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Like the other pieces of Whieldon ware, it looks rustic with

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occasional imperfections, but is that the faker trying to fool you?

0:27:220:27:25

And finally, a cream ware milk jug and cover from the same school.

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The Staffordshire potters would have been proud of this 250 years ago,

0:27:320:27:37

but are we looking at something made in the 1980s?

0:27:370:27:40

So Fergus, four examples of Whieldon Ware,

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or rather three examples and one that looks like it.

0:27:480:27:50

Very unusual, the decoration, isn't it?

0:27:500:27:53

Mmmm, it's essentially cream ware in the days before the cream ware body

0:27:530:27:57

was perfected and became flawless.

0:27:570:27:59

And so really there's an attempt here to cover up a lot of the

0:27:590:28:02

surface with this decoration, which is a sort of mottled decoration

0:28:020:28:06

of coloured oxides which are allowed to dribble and merge into each other

0:28:060:28:12

to create a kind of tortoiseshell effect and that's the idea.

0:28:120:28:15

And this kind of decoration is associated with a potter

0:28:150:28:18

called Whieldon, but it isn't all by him, of course.

0:28:180:28:20

So some of it's just in the style of?

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Some of it's by other contemporary potters,

0:28:220:28:24

because it's just a fashionable ware of the time.

0:28:240:28:27

So we've got two teapots, obviously.

0:28:270:28:28

-Two teapots.

-And what about this? What was this?

0:28:280:28:31

That's a tea canister. One kept one's tea in it,

0:28:310:28:34

it would have had a lid, which is now missing.

0:28:340:28:37

-And then the little jug at the end?

-That's a milk jug.

0:28:370:28:39

We're not so used to having milk or cream with jugs that have

0:28:390:28:42

covers these days, but they did then, sometimes.

0:28:420:28:46

Stops anything dropping into the milk.

0:28:460:28:49

Now one of these was such a cunning fake...

0:28:490:28:53

-Mmmm.

-..that very special tests had to be done on it,

0:28:530:28:56

which doesn't augur well for me choosing the right one,

0:28:560:28:59

but anyway, so tell me about that.

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It's called a thermoluminescence test and it involves

0:29:010:29:05

a slightly destructive, invasive process of removing

0:29:050:29:08

a sliver of the pottery from the object and heating it up, and

0:29:080:29:13

when you heat it up, it gives off what they call a thermoluminescence

0:29:130:29:18

which is a kind of blue glow, and the amount of that glow

0:29:180:29:21

depends on the amount of radiation that the object has absorbed.

0:29:210:29:26

The older the object, the more radiation it has absorbed

0:29:260:29:30

since it was fired, and the more thermoluminescence.

0:29:300:29:34

So you've set me a horrendous task.

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If it was so hard that a thermoluminescence test

0:29:360:29:39

had to be done on it, I don't think I stand a chance.

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We can't expect you to.

0:29:410:29:43

I mean, this one looks most different from all the others

0:29:430:29:47

in that the striations on it are very different

0:29:470:29:50

from these three, so I'm assuming this is the fake,

0:29:500:29:53

and if I've got that right, I will feel very chuffed indeed.

0:29:530:29:58

You'd better pick it up and see.

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It's got a hole in the bottom, has it?

0:30:000:30:02

It's got a hole in the bottom, and if it has, you've won!

0:30:020:30:05

-No!

-Yes!

-Yes?! Where is it?

0:30:070:30:09

You missed it, look. There's a hole!

0:30:090:30:11

-I can't see a hole.

-There it is, isn't it?

0:30:110:30:15

-Oh, teeny, weeny.

-Teeny, teeny.

0:30:150:30:18

Back of the net, I think is the technical term for that.

0:30:180:30:21

Oh, I'm well chuffed, I'm almost lost for words, actually.

0:30:210:30:25

Thing is, Fergus, that when you look at this next to these,

0:30:250:30:28

it does look really different, doesn't it?

0:30:280:30:30

Well, it's OK for you with hindsight.

0:30:300:30:32

-Because these have got all these decorations on, this hasn't.

-Yes.

0:30:320:30:35

These colours are much darker than this,

0:30:350:30:37

the green is different to these, so it does look really different.

0:30:370:30:40

But when I tell you that that teapot sold in the 1980s for

0:30:400:30:43

£2,500, and that other pieces of the same type,

0:30:430:30:48

other fakes, were selling for tens of thousands of pounds,

0:30:480:30:52

experts were fooled by these then.

0:30:520:30:54

So this, as a fake, is almost valueless, really.

0:30:540:30:57

Well, it would be immoral to sell it,

0:30:570:30:59

it's wrong and it's not worth much.

0:30:590:31:01

And what about the tea canister?

0:31:010:31:03

The tea canister's lovely and it's worth £1,500, maybe £2,000.

0:31:030:31:08

The teapot, actually, this one is cracked, so as a cracked piece,

0:31:080:31:12

it's worth £500 or so,

0:31:120:31:15

and the jug maybe £700, £800.

0:31:150:31:19

Well, there you are - Whieldon ware.

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And if you want to know what to look for,

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have a look at our website with all sorts of hints and tips on there.

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-I picked this up from a local second-hand shop.

-Right.

0:31:340:31:36

About four or five months ago, knew nothing about it.

0:31:360:31:40

A friend of mine restored it for me.

0:31:400:31:41

Right. How much did it cost you?

0:31:410:31:44

-Well, it owes me £50.

-Right.

0:31:440:31:46

Let me tell you about it.

0:31:460:31:49

It's made out of mahogany and it's actually 18th century.

0:31:490:31:53

Made in the George III period.

0:31:530:31:57

A journeyman would have made this,

0:31:570:31:59

a gentleman who travels around working for one cabinet maker,

0:31:590:32:04

and then he'd move on and work for another cabinet maker.

0:32:040:32:07

-Right, OK.

-And because he's carrying things around,

0:32:070:32:09

that's why you've got these little carrying handles on the sides,

0:32:090:32:12

-which only open to a certain degree.

-Right.

0:32:120:32:15

So he'd have been carrying his wares.

0:32:150:32:17

And inside the journey begins,

0:32:170:32:21

because you've got all these wonderful little samples

0:32:210:32:25

from literally all over the world.

0:32:250:32:28

This is the height of cabinet makers

0:32:280:32:31

showing what veneers were being used at the time.

0:32:310:32:34

As I say, it's 18th century, and when I opened it,

0:32:340:32:38

one of the timbers which I saw,

0:32:380:32:41

I thought was fantastic to see

0:32:410:32:44

this wood, it's called fustic wood,

0:32:440:32:46

it's from the Caribbean.

0:32:460:32:48

Chippendale often used this wood and when it's polished,

0:32:480:32:52

it's beautiful, it has a wonderful grain.

0:32:520:32:55

But if you look, you've got these timbers from the Americas,

0:32:550:32:58

from the Caribbean, from Asia.

0:32:580:33:01

How many timbers are there?

0:33:010:33:04

Well, it should carry about 160

0:33:040:33:06

but there's two missing, sadly.

0:33:060:33:09

Well, these little chests are extremely rare.

0:33:090:33:14

The restoration could have been done a little bit better,

0:33:140:33:18

but it's not bad.

0:33:180:33:20

Today I would put a value on this of between £800 to £1,000.

0:33:200:33:27

-OK, yeah.

-So I think you've done extremely well for £50.

0:33:270:33:31

Oh, that's good, yeah.

0:33:310:33:32

-So, well done.

-Thank you very much.

0:33:320:33:34

When you came and sat down with your pieces, you were almost

0:33:370:33:41

-apologetic for coming and sitting down and showing them to me.

-Yes.

0:33:410:33:45

I just brought my mum's two rings and I literally just

0:33:450:33:51

pulled this out of the box that I had, but then your little sort

0:33:510:33:54

of magpie eyes lit up and you swept the brooch off and that was that.

0:33:540:33:59

You're thinking, "Why has she done that? It's costume jewellery."

0:33:590:34:02

Yes, that's what, I've only ever seen it a couple of times

0:34:020:34:06

so I would assume that

0:34:060:34:08

my family wouldn't have had that much money in the past

0:34:080:34:12

to buy anything substantial.

0:34:120:34:14

Well, costume jewellery, you know, is very collected.

0:34:140:34:17

-Yeah.

-I mean, it's nothing to be sniffed at.

0:34:170:34:20

This piece is not costume jewellery.

0:34:200:34:24

Oh.

0:34:240:34:26

-It's the real thing.

-Right.

0:34:260:34:28

It's diamonds.

0:34:300:34:32

Platinum.

0:34:320:34:34

-Oh, I thought it might have been silver.

-No.

0:34:340:34:37

THEY LAUGH

0:34:370:34:39

If it had been silver, you're quite right that up until about 1900

0:34:400:34:45

-most jewellery was made with silver, or silver and gold.

-Right.

0:34:450:34:49

Platinum came in about 1900.

0:34:490:34:51

And are those sapphires?

0:34:510:34:53

-They are, this is about 1925.

-Oh, right, OK.

0:34:530:34:57

And the sapphires are probably synthetic.

0:34:570:35:02

-But it doesn't matter, because it's all about the design.

-Mm.

0:35:020:35:05

You know, the sapphires are there to complement the design,

0:35:050:35:09

they're so small it doesn't really matter intrinsically

0:35:090:35:11

-whether they're synthetic or whether they're real.

-Yeah.

0:35:110:35:15

And the setting itself is all this lovely little milgrain setting.

0:35:150:35:19

You might bring it out of its box quite often. I think you actually,

0:35:190:35:23

while you're washing up, you can try it on first.

0:35:230:35:25

I should put it on to do the washing up or something.

0:35:250:35:27

-I think you should. Don't you think?

-Yeah, OK, I shall...

-Spoil yourself.

0:35:270:35:31

-Yes, OK.

-Knowing that you're wearing something that's £2,500.

0:35:310:35:35

Wow. Gosh. Thank you very much.

0:35:350:35:37

Something to dance about, isn't it?

0:35:370:35:39

Well, it'll certainly buy a few gin and tonics later.

0:35:390:35:42

-I'm joining you.

-OK!

0:35:420:35:43

This is a wonderful group of medals. Who did they belong to?

0:35:460:35:50

Well, they belonged to my late uncle, Colonel Terence Conner,

0:35:500:35:53

who took part in a largely forgotten rebellion,

0:35:530:35:56

-the 1930-32 Burma Rebellion.

-Is this him?

0:35:560:36:00

Yeah, that's him in all his splendour,

0:36:000:36:02

taken at Buckingham Palace,

0:36:020:36:03

actually, when he went to get his DSO and the King's Police Medal.

0:36:030:36:06

That's a fantastic portrait, wonderful portrait,

0:36:060:36:09

beautifully tinted, actually quite a sensitive photograph, isn't it?

0:36:090:36:12

-Yes.

-Tell me what he did.

0:36:120:36:14

He was very fortunate in that he was in the British Indian Army

0:36:140:36:17

and he volunteered to take part in the, what they called

0:36:170:36:21

the Human Sacrifice and Slave Releasing Expeditions.

0:36:210:36:24

That doesn't sound very fortunate to me.

0:36:240:36:26

Well, he enjoyed that sort of thing.

0:36:260:36:28

Basically they went into unexplored territory of Northern Burma

0:36:280:36:31

where they were literally releasing slaves

0:36:310:36:33

and going through the jungle to do so.

0:36:330:36:35

-In order to try and quash slavery.

-Absolutely.

0:36:350:36:38

The one big problem was that

0:36:380:36:40

there was great support for slavery in Upper Burma.

0:36:400:36:43

Well, when the rebellion broke out in Burma in 1930,

0:36:430:36:46

by complete coincidence his regiment was in Rangoon, so he got asked

0:36:460:36:50

if he would go in and help them.

0:36:500:36:53

And as a captain, he had a very prominent role indeed

0:36:530:36:56

-in quashing the rebellion.

-Yeah.

0:36:560:36:58

And what's the relevance of this tunic?

0:36:580:37:00

Well, the background is that a guy called Say Assan

0:37:000:37:04

declared himself, on a hill in Burma, Magician King.

0:37:040:37:07

And what he did was, to gain support, he told them all

0:37:070:37:10

that he would be able to draw symbols and put them on their shirts

0:37:100:37:13

so they would be completely invulnerable to British bullets and

0:37:130:37:16

they could all charge forward and attack and they would all be fine.

0:37:160:37:20

And you can see quite clearly from looking at it,

0:37:200:37:22

that they weren't invulnerable to British bullets,

0:37:220:37:24

because there's a big hole right in the middle.

0:37:240:37:26

So it's covered in these extraordinary symbols.

0:37:260:37:29

It looks like a tiger, these squares that, you know, the magic squares,

0:37:290:37:33

that wherever you go they always add up to a certain number.

0:37:330:37:35

-That's right.

-That's what they look like.

0:37:350:37:37

Have you ever had them deciphered?

0:37:370:37:39

Well, I did speak to somebody at the British Library about it

0:37:390:37:42

and she told me that they all do have a meaning,

0:37:420:37:44

but I'm afraid I can't personally tell you what they mean.

0:37:440:37:47

But they scared these guys enough that they thought

0:37:470:37:49

they could just charge forward.

0:37:490:37:51

Now let me ask you something about these medals.

0:37:510:37:53

What was he awarded the Distinguished Service Order for?

0:37:530:37:56

His bravery in the operations of going into the jungle

0:37:560:37:58

for weeks on end, capturing rebels.

0:37:580:38:01

And this certificate would have come with the DSO.

0:38:010:38:04

Yes, absolutely right, yes.

0:38:040:38:06

-And also here we have the King's Police Medal.

-Yes.

0:38:060:38:09

And that was awarded to him because he was seconded

0:38:090:38:12

to the Military Police, the Burma Military Police, and so that's

0:38:120:38:15

one of the highest awards they could give him for his time there.

0:38:150:38:18

That's an unusual combination, I would think.

0:38:180:38:20

Well, I believe it is, yes,

0:38:200:38:22

because obviously it's a police medal accompanying military medals.

0:38:220:38:25

They're very, very shiny. Why is that?

0:38:250:38:29

Well, I keep them on display so once in a while, I clean them up.

0:38:290:38:32

-OK, here's a warning. Don't polish them.

-Right, OK.

0:38:320:38:36

Every time you polish a medal, we rub a little bit of the metal off.

0:38:360:38:40

You know, it's a very, very good group here.

0:38:420:38:45

Um, you've got a fabulous photograph of him.

0:38:450:38:49

You've got this maybe even unique

0:38:490:38:52

tunic which documents

0:38:520:38:56

a barbaric part of our colonial history.

0:38:560:39:00

Historically, I think this is very, very important.

0:39:000:39:03

It doesn't necessarily always translate to value, of course,

0:39:030:39:06

-high value.

-No.

0:39:060:39:07

But, I think we'd be looking in terms of an auction value today

0:39:070:39:12

-of between £7,000 and £9,000.

-Wow!

0:39:120:39:16

OK, I wasn't expecting that.

0:39:160:39:18

It's incredible.

0:39:220:39:23

I've got a huge garden pot, obviously,

0:39:230:39:26

full of beautiful flowers.

0:39:260:39:27

-Who's the gardener, is it you?

-No, it's my wife.

-It's your wife.

0:39:270:39:31

I think she's got exceptionally green fingers,

0:39:310:39:33

-by the looks of it.

-Yes, she has.

-And this is definitely a first,

0:39:330:39:36

but the flowers are sort of slightly incidental to

0:39:360:39:38

what I think is a rather interesting piece of stone work here.

0:39:380:39:43

And I'm interested as to why it's residing in your garden.

0:39:430:39:47

It had always been in the family, ever since I can remember,

0:39:470:39:50

and we always thought it was a font, a church font.

0:39:500:39:54

-Right.

-But a few years ago we went to the Exeter Museum

0:39:540:39:58

and there's one identical there. And they called it a granite mortar.

0:39:580:40:04

Right, OK, well, you've hit the nail on the head.

0:40:040:40:07

What essentially you have is a very large mortar.

0:40:070:40:10

This isn't, in fact, granite, it's actually a type of grit stone.

0:40:100:40:15

A mortar is an object that's used for grinding things,

0:40:150:40:17

and in this case, it probably would have been used for grinding grain.

0:40:170:40:21

It's rather large, sometimes these had what was called

0:40:210:40:23

sort of like a quern stone which sat in the top of them and would rotate.

0:40:230:40:27

Has it got a hole in the bottom of it?

0:40:270:40:29

-Yes, it does have a hole in the bottom.

-OK, well, that's interesting

0:40:290:40:32

because that could also define the way in which it was used,

0:40:320:40:35

but I also see that it's got some lips on it as well.

0:40:350:40:37

-Mmm.

-So essentially used for grinding material.

0:40:370:40:41

The form of it is very characteristic of medieval mortars.

0:40:410:40:46

Medieval?

0:40:460:40:47

So you are putting your flowers in an object

0:40:470:40:50

that is 500 or 600 years old.

0:40:500:40:52

Well, at one time, we kept fish in it.

0:40:550:40:58

-You kept fish in it?

-Yes.

0:40:580:41:00

THEY LAUGH

0:41:000:41:01

Well, garden pots can be quite expensive to buy.

0:41:010:41:03

Even if you go down to your local garden centre, you can pay

0:41:030:41:06

quite a lot of money for quite an ordinary garden pot.

0:41:060:41:08

This is no ordinary garden pot

0:41:080:41:10

and it appeals to a really kind of interesting type of collector,

0:41:100:41:13

the sort of collector that likes old oak period objects, and if you

0:41:130:41:18

went to a specialist sale that was selling those kind of objects, you

0:41:180:41:22

would have to pay between £600 and £1,000 to buy this medieval mortar.

0:41:220:41:27

£600 to £1,000?

0:41:270:41:28

That's with the flowers or without the flowers?

0:41:300:41:32

That's without the flowers!

0:41:320:41:34

I can picture these behind a half peeled lemon

0:41:410:41:44

and a lobster in one of those

0:41:440:41:47

Dutch still life paintings.

0:41:470:41:49

I can imagine it in one of those as well. At the moment they've just

0:41:490:41:52

been sitting on top of the kitchen cabinet at home, gathering dust.

0:41:520:41:56

-Do you know hold old these are?

-I haven't got a clue how old

0:41:560:41:58

they are. They don't belong to me, they do belong to my mother

0:41:580:42:01

and she thought that they were Ming export,

0:42:010:42:04

which came, obviously, later on,

0:42:040:42:07

in the style of, to be shipped overseas, not for home consumption.

0:42:070:42:11

That's "I believe", I don't know.

0:42:110:42:14

She's mostly right, but let's have a look at that.

0:42:140:42:16

Ming export.

0:42:160:42:18

The Ming dynasty finished in 1644 so they're going to be,

0:42:180:42:21

if she's right, they're going to be before that.

0:42:210:42:25

It's a type of porcelain which is called Kraak porcelain.

0:42:250:42:28

And it's not because it's broken,

0:42:280:42:30

it's because it was transported to Europe from China

0:42:300:42:34

in boats which were called carracks, which is a Portuguese vessel.

0:42:340:42:38

Historically, for me, these type of vases, they do

0:42:380:42:41

represent the East-West trade

0:42:410:42:43

and it's going right back to the beginning of the 17th century.

0:42:430:42:46

-The Dutch East India Company...

-Yes.

0:42:460:42:48

..has records of things that they call Persian bottles.

0:42:480:42:51

Persian bottles.

0:42:510:42:52

And this is what they called Persian bottles...

0:42:520:42:55

-Oh, really?

-..in their records in the 17th century.

0:42:550:42:57

-There was a ship that sank in 1643.

-Yes.

0:42:570:43:02

And a number of these came out of that ship.

0:43:030:43:05

-These date from that time.

-Really?

0:43:050:43:07

I am flabbergasted, we thought it was well after that date.

0:43:070:43:10

1643.

0:43:100:43:13

Well, they are from the first 40-odd years of the 17th century,

0:43:130:43:16

so shortly after Shakespeare, shortly after Elizabeth I.

0:43:160:43:20

-They're really old things.

-That's very exciting.

0:43:200:43:23

I can tell they're very highly prized by the fact

0:43:230:43:27

if you touch them,

0:43:270:43:28

no-one's allowed to pick them up in your house, are they?

0:43:280:43:31

They're filthy, you positively stick to them.

0:43:310:43:33

You do, it's that kitchen grime you get on things and the paint.

0:43:330:43:38

It's absolutely, they're revolting to touch, absolutely revolting.

0:43:380:43:42

They won't be marked, it's very, very rare for Kraak porcelain to

0:43:420:43:46

-be marked, no marks on the base.

-Nothing.

0:43:460:43:49

The bodies are slightly moulded.

0:43:490:43:51

You do know they're not a pair?

0:43:510:43:53

I kind of wondered whether they were or not,

0:43:530:43:56

but they are quite different when you look at them.

0:43:560:43:58

They're not a pair, they're two very similar bottles

0:43:580:44:00

and they've been hand painted in Jingdezhen.

0:44:000:44:03

This one has a slight crack in it, very slight crack on the back,

0:44:030:44:07

and it does affect the value.

0:44:070:44:09

Together in auction today,

0:44:100:44:13

they're worth around about

0:44:130:44:15

£3,000 to £5,000.

0:44:150:44:17

Wow, we weren't even going to bring them today as well.

0:44:170:44:20

That's wonderful.

0:44:200:44:21

This is my fifth visit to the Antiques Roadshow

0:44:250:44:27

and every time I come I really enjoy my day.

0:44:270:44:31

Well, I'm very glad to hear that.

0:44:310:44:32

I've had the most appalling 24 hours.

0:44:320:44:35

Last night on the way home I badly broke my arm and I've spent most of

0:44:350:44:38

the night in hospital, hardly slept, haven't shaved, feeling terrible.

0:44:380:44:43

And I don't mean to ruin your day

0:44:430:44:45

when I tell you that the reason why I picked out these two spoons

0:44:450:44:48

is because in actual fact they've got bogus marks on them.

0:44:480:44:51

-Right.

-They're fakes.

0:44:510:44:55

-The marks on them look like London hallmarks of 1816.

-Yes.

0:44:550:44:59

-But in actual fact, they're on them to deceive.

-OK.

0:44:590:45:03

They're made by a man called Lawrence Twentyman, who was

0:45:030:45:07

a silversmith working in Cape Town in South Africa in about 1820.

0:45:070:45:12

He put on London marks to persuade his customers that he was

0:45:120:45:17

selling them London quality silverware, when in fact

0:45:170:45:20

he wasn't, he was making them in his little studio in Cape Town.

0:45:200:45:23

Now did you buy these spoons or have you been left them?

0:45:230:45:26

No, I found them amongst the possessions of my aunt after

0:45:260:45:30

she died and they'd actually been in a drawer for about seven years

0:45:300:45:34

and I just thought I'd bring a box of silver spoons to you today

0:45:340:45:39

and you just happened to pull these two out of the box.

0:45:390:45:42

And was she from South Africa?

0:45:420:45:43

No, she wasn't, but my grandfather spent time in South Africa,

0:45:430:45:48

-so possibly that's how they came into her possession.

-Right.

0:45:480:45:53

These are silver spoons and if they were London quality,

0:45:530:45:56

if they had genuine hallmarks on

0:45:560:45:58

and were of the quality of a London spoon maker, they'd be worth

0:45:580:46:02

-somewhere in the order of £40 to £50 each.

-Yes.

0:46:020:46:04

But they're not.

0:46:040:46:06

They're worth £80 to £100 each.

0:46:060:46:08

Are they really? That's amazing.

0:46:080:46:11

Now there's dogs and there's dogs

0:46:140:46:16

and these are dogs, aren't they?!

0:46:160:46:18

And it's got the signature here on the collar of T Earl,

0:46:180:46:21

so I suppose that's Thomas Earl, 1868.

0:46:210:46:24

Now, he came from a family that was famous for painting dogs,

0:46:240:46:27

-they were really, really good at it.

-Right.

0:46:270:46:30

Such character in their animals

0:46:300:46:32

and as you can see, this is an absolute master of it.

0:46:320:46:35

I love them, I think they're absolutely terrific.

0:46:350:46:37

What made you get them? Did you get them or inherit them?

0:46:370:46:40

Oh, no, a huge accident. We went to an auction,

0:46:400:46:43

because I'd seen a picture of a little Jack Russell, it looked

0:46:430:46:46

quite sweet, and off we went, and we were just leaving, having thought

0:46:460:46:50

the Jack Russell, was quite nice, and there was, this picture was by

0:46:500:46:53

the door and it was just a study in brown, it was covered in brown goo.

0:46:530:46:59

-Oh, you mean dirty?

-Filthy, damaged frame,

0:46:590:47:02

and I don't know quite why,

0:47:020:47:04

but just sort of hanging round waiting to go and looked at it

0:47:040:47:07

and I thought, "Ooh, I think they're nice," and just said to my husband

0:47:070:47:10

as we left, "If I could take anything home, it would be that."

0:47:100:47:14

"Oh, yeah?" Anyway, unbeknown to me, my husband went to the auction

0:47:140:47:20

and in actual fact bought it,

0:47:200:47:22

unbeknown to me, AND the Jack Russell.

0:47:220:47:25

He only bought this because it didn't sort of make much money.

0:47:250:47:28

I see, a bargain.

0:47:280:47:29

-Sort of. Well...

-How much money?

0:47:290:47:33

-Probably around a thousand.

-Oh, OK.

0:47:330:47:36

And anyway it was, you know, oh, we did a bit of that

0:47:360:47:39

and we thought, "Oh, well, you know," and we were referred to

0:47:390:47:42

somebody who did a lovely job of lifting off all the filth and

0:47:420:47:46

we found these lovely boys, and he said it was worth doing the frame.

0:47:460:47:50

So we went and invested another 3.8 million

0:47:500:47:53

and had the frame touched up.

0:47:530:47:56

It's all a great job, though, it looks terrific.

0:47:560:47:59

He's so photographic, as well.

0:47:590:48:00

And look at the glistening on the lip of that dog.

0:48:000:48:03

It's so cleverly caught, the light like that.

0:48:030:48:05

-Who, Earl?

-Yeah, Earl.

-Right.

0:48:050:48:07

And he never really bothers much with backgrounds, you know,

0:48:070:48:10

you've got this really sort of boring sky

0:48:100:48:12

and a bit of sort of vestigial heather to set them.

0:48:120:48:14

He's much more interested in the character of the animals,

0:48:140:48:17

and that he's caught brilliantly. Look at this chap's eyes.

0:48:170:48:19

It is the eyes that do it for me

0:48:190:48:21

and each of them seem to be telling a slightly different story to me.

0:48:210:48:24

I think there's an age difference.

0:48:240:48:26

-Different characters, age difference.

-Yes, probably

0:48:260:48:29

-an old boy.

-The old boy bringing on the younger dog.

0:48:290:48:31

-A young jumped-up, yeah.

-They're chained together

0:48:310:48:33

-so this one learns from that one.

-I believe so.

0:48:330:48:35

-That's fascinating, I didn't know that.

-I think that's how

0:48:350:48:38

they train them, I don't know. I could be making it up.

0:48:380:48:41

One thing I do know is what it's worth

0:48:410:48:42

and since that's what we're partly here for, I'm going to tell you.

0:48:420:48:46

-How long ago?

-Five years, I think.

-Five years ago, yeah.

0:48:460:48:50

Well, I think now it's worth between £10,000 and £15,000.

0:48:500:48:53

-Woo-hoo, that's all right. Each?

-LAUGHTER

0:48:530:48:57

Don't push me.

0:48:570:48:58

Well, it's a very pretty little easel box.

0:49:100:49:12

Am I going to see something lovely in it?

0:49:120:49:14

I certainly hope so, yes.

0:49:140:49:16

Let me open it up and peek,

0:49:160:49:18

if I can get it open, there we go.

0:49:180:49:22

Oh, oh, ooh.

0:49:220:49:24

Well there's the magic word, Rolex, Prince Imperial.

0:49:250:49:28

-Mm-hm.

-That's a lovely thing indeed

0:49:280:49:33

and note that little tag.

0:49:330:49:35

How long have you had this for?

0:49:350:49:37

-About 40 years.

-Have you ever used it?

0:49:370:49:40

No, no, it's just been in a box in the wardrobe.

0:49:400:49:44

It's absolutely mint.

0:49:440:49:45

I mean, with this little tag which has got its movement number,

0:49:450:49:50

it's what we call new old stock, I mean, it's unused.

0:49:500:49:54

It's a typical Rolex 1930s dress watch,

0:49:540:49:58

it's a duo-dial Prince Imperial, it's stunning.

0:49:580:50:02

Do you find it pleasing?

0:50:020:50:04

Oh, yes, very, I think it's very attractive.

0:50:040:50:06

-Have you ever had the back off? Probably not.

-No, never.

-Do you mind

0:50:060:50:10

-if I take it off?

-No, I'd love to see inside.

0:50:100:50:12

I'm going to have to put this on because it's a fiddly little job.

0:50:120:50:16

So off comes the back.

0:50:160:50:17

Now, look at that, if I pop those two there...

0:50:190:50:23

..and start with the movement, which is observatory quality.

0:50:240:50:31

-Is it?

-That is THE top quality,

0:50:310:50:33

it says observatory on the ratchet wheel, that is absolutely

0:50:330:50:36

magnificent and the case,

0:50:360:50:39

all the Rolex marks

0:50:390:50:41

and it's 18 carat gold.

0:50:410:50:43

Mm, I see.

0:50:430:50:45

And this bit of paperwork which you've brought along

0:50:450:50:47

is its chronometer certificate

0:50:470:50:50

from October 1934.

0:50:500:50:52

I have never seen one with the original box,

0:50:540:50:58

-with the original certificate and its original tag.

-Mm.

0:50:580:51:03

It's in unused condition.

0:51:030:51:04

Do you remember anybody wearing it ever?

0:51:040:51:06

No. No, no, it's always been in the box.

0:51:060:51:10

-Why has nobody used it?

-I don't know why.

0:51:100:51:13

It's absolutely extraordinary to come across it like this.

0:51:130:51:17

Well, the nine-carat gold ones that are a bit rubbed

0:51:190:51:23

fetch at auction around about £2,000 to £2,500.

0:51:230:51:29

-Mm-hm.

-That is nine-carat.

0:51:290:51:31

-Yes.

-Yours is 18-carat.

0:51:310:51:32

-Yes.

-So I'm going to say £4,400 to £5,000.

0:51:320:51:38

This is mint with all its paperwork and its tags and its box.

0:51:380:51:44

Collectors, particularly Far Eastern collectors, go mad

0:51:440:51:48

for this at the moment and I have no hesitation in saying to you that

0:51:480:51:51

at auction, in this condition, it will fetch

0:51:510:51:55

-between £7,000 and £10,000.

-Good heavens.

0:51:550:51:58

And the problem is, it'll just go back into a drawer again, won't it?

0:51:580:52:01

Yes. Well I'm not sure about that. I shall have to think about that.

0:52:010:52:06

I've got a postcard here of somebody. Who's this?

0:52:060:52:10

It's my grandfather's uncle. He was on the Titanic.

0:52:100:52:14

He was the youngest survivor of the Titanic's father,

0:52:140:52:16

Millvina Dean, who was nine weeks old at the time.

0:52:160:52:19

-She was nine weeks old.

-Yes.

0:52:190:52:21

-OK, and she survived?

-Yes, she was put in a mail sack

0:52:210:52:25

-and put on the life rafts below with her mother and her father.

-Right.

0:52:250:52:30

But he died saving people to put on the life rafts with them.

0:52:300:52:33

So sad.

0:52:330:52:35

And the postcard is written just before they leave on the Titanic.

0:52:350:52:41

Just before they left, yes.

0:52:410:52:43

And he's writing it - who's Violet, he's writing to?

0:52:430:52:45

-My great-grandmother.

-OK, and he says,

0:52:450:52:48

"just a card to ask you if I shall

0:52:480:52:52

"come home or not before I go away.

0:52:520:52:56

"Let me know, love from Bert."

0:52:560:52:59

Yes, he was writing to see whether he should go home to say

0:52:590:53:02

goodbye to the family before he left.

0:53:020:53:04

-And do we know if he did?

-No, he didn't.

0:53:040:53:06

He didn't. It's so sad, isn't it? It's awful.

0:53:060:53:10

And then the book here is inscribed to you.

0:53:100:53:14

To me, yes, it's from Millvina

0:53:140:53:16

when she started getting involved with the Titanic experience

0:53:160:53:20

and she wrote it to me when I was two years old as a keepsake.

0:53:200:53:25

OK, and when you say she started to get involved,

0:53:250:53:27

it's dated 1995, so does that mean for a long period of her life

0:53:270:53:31

-she didn't want to have anything to do with it?

-No.

0:53:310:53:34

Her brother went forward and helped with all the memorabilia

0:53:340:53:38

of the Titanic, but at first she didn't want to,

0:53:380:53:41

until her brother died and she was older, and then

0:53:410:53:44

she lived an amazing life with going to America and just seeing everybody

0:53:440:53:48

and doing talks on the Titanic and her experiences and what she knows.

0:53:480:53:51

OK, and then she died, when did she die, then?

0:53:510:53:54

She died on the 31st May 2009, my birthday.

0:53:540:53:57

-Oh.

-She was such a lovely person, so bubbly,

0:53:570:54:00

-she always had stories to tell.

-Really?

-She was amazing, yes.

-Well,

0:54:000:54:03

-like you, you're telling the story now, it's brilliant.

-Continuing it.

0:54:030:54:06

Absolutely, and as you obviously know, there's a huge interest,

0:54:060:54:11

there's a big market in Titanic material,

0:54:110:54:13

anything related to the Titanic, but particularly survivors and it does

0:54:130:54:18

have monetary value as well as the sentimental value obviously to you.

0:54:180:54:22

I think the card on its own would easily

0:54:220:54:26

-be worth £1,000 to £1,500.

-Really?

-I do.

0:54:260:54:30

I can easily see the book inscribed, personally inscribed to you

0:54:300:54:33

from her, making £500 to £1,000,

0:54:330:54:35

so overall we're looking at certainly £1,500 to £2,500.

0:54:350:54:40

I didn't expect that. Thank you, that's amazing.

0:54:400:54:43

This seems to be a matching pair of plates, but one's painted

0:54:460:54:50

with a comical Chinaman and here we've got a figure of a king.

0:54:500:54:55

They're very peculiar. What do you know about them?

0:54:550:54:59

I remember them on the wall of my husband's parents' house

0:54:590:55:05

and traditionally in the family they were said to be very valuable,

0:55:050:55:09

but no-one else seemed to know anything else about them and in

0:55:090:55:13

due course they came to my husband and when I asked him about them, he

0:55:130:55:16

said all he knows about them is that they came from his mother's family.

0:55:160:55:20

-They're Delftware.

-Right.

0:55:200:55:22

-I don't know if you've heard of the term Delft at all.

-Yes, yes.

0:55:220:55:26

I mean, which is, in a way the European copy of Chinese porcelain

0:55:260:55:30

before we knew how to make the real stuff.

0:55:300:55:32

Crude pottery covered with a white tin glaze and that's what these are.

0:55:320:55:36

And most of the early Delft is copying Chinese designs

0:55:360:55:40

and that's what, the design we have here, I suppose.

0:55:400:55:43

-What's curious is the palette and the colouring they're in.

-Right.

0:55:430:55:48

We've got some nice mix of colours which does indicate really

0:55:480:55:51

quite an early date. So we're looking back here

0:55:510:55:54

into the 17th century, but one thing we do find in early Delft

0:55:540:55:57

often are portraits of the reigning kings and queens of the time.

0:55:570:56:02

-Right.

-And so one wonders here what this chap might be.

0:56:020:56:06

So there, a very splendid king with a sceptre

0:56:060:56:10

and I suppose he's holding a letter or a scroll.

0:56:100:56:13

Who do you think he is?

0:56:130:56:14

I really, really don't have a clue, I'm afraid.

0:56:140:56:17

He must be a British king.

0:56:170:56:19

One tries to think of dates from the plates and looking at the designs.

0:56:190:56:24

I've seen one once before with a similar king which depicts

0:56:240:56:28

James II. I think that's probably who he is.

0:56:280:56:32

-Oh, goodness.

-So that goes back to 1685-1688,

0:56:320:56:36

a relatively short reign,

0:56:360:56:38

so you've got a pair of plates here, probably made in London, I think,

0:56:380:56:43

-but they're about as rare as you can get.

-Really?

0:56:430:56:47

I mean, this one is in a bit of a shocking state.

0:56:470:56:50

-Yes.

-It's been broken in half.

0:56:500:56:52

-Someone liked it enough to stitch it together, just about.

-Yes.

0:56:520:56:56

-But it's barely held together now.

-Yes, yes.

0:56:560:56:59

But this is really quite an important piece of pottery, because

0:56:590:57:03

you've got a picture of the king on a rare shape, in rare colours.

0:57:030:57:07

-Delft doesn't get much more special than this.

-Really?

0:57:070:57:10

So we can forgive it a bit the poor condition.

0:57:100:57:13

-Right.

-So let's think.

0:57:130:57:16

The perfect but Chinese subject one, shall we say

0:57:160:57:21

-£10,000 to £20,000.

-Oh!

0:57:210:57:24

SHE GASPS

0:57:240:57:27

The very broken one...

0:57:290:57:30

Well, it's got to be more than that.

0:57:320:57:34

-Oh, my God!

-So at least £20,000.

0:57:340:57:37

Oh, my God!

0:57:390:57:40

Together as a pair, £30,000 or more!

0:57:420:57:45

-I brought them in my handbag!

-LAUGHTER

0:57:490:57:53

That's all right, I'm sure it's a good, strong handbag.

0:57:530:57:56

Speechless.

0:57:570:57:59

Oh, can I cry now?

0:58:010:58:03

Yes, yes.

0:58:040:58:06

It's not often that we see tears on the programme,

0:58:070:58:10

but thankfully these were tears of joy.

0:58:100:58:12

From Exeter Cathedral and the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye.

0:58:130:58:17

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