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Tonight, we're unwrapping our very own Christmas special.

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We've come back to Lyme Park in Cheshire,

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where recently we welcomed over 2,000 visitors

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who brought along their family treasures.

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And it's the perfect backdrop to our show.

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We've uncovered a magical Christmas story connected to a little girl

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who lived here many years ago.

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Her name was Phyllis and she wrote a book reflecting on her life here

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when she was 11. And this is it,

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Treasure On Earth, A Country House Christmas.

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And it's a perfect snapshot of an Edwardian Christmas in 1906.

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In it she reveals the traditions and characters and fun

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of the people who lived here in Lyme Park,

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both upstairs and downstairs.

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Phyllis tells us about her parents, Lord and Lady Newton,

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throwing a lavish Christmas party in the Grand Hall for all

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their staff, capturing the happy scene in her drawings and paintings.

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In strict hierarchy the family would appear from the left

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and the estate workers from the right.

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Meeting in the middle, they'd take their partners

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and spend the evening dancing and eating.

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Phyllis describes how her mother would hand out

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gifts of joints of beef to all the staff.

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The butler would call out the names, the shepherd would place each

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joint of beef in a cloth and then Lady Newton would tie

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the corners of the cloth, while exchanging Christmas greetings.

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The account reveals other Christmas traditions.

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In Phyllis' words, the Christmas tree was decked with

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"rainbow-coloured iridescent glass balls hanging singly

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"and in garlands, shows of sparkling tinsel, bells and stars,

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"trumpets and violins."

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The greatest moment of excitement for Phyllis was of course,

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as for all children, when the presents were handed

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out from beneath the tree.

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The children from both upstairs and downstairs would process around

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the tree carrying Chinese lanterns.

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And Phyllis describes how Truelove, the butler,

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would follow behind with a bucket of water, just in case of fire.

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Here in the glowing Christmas-bedecked drawing room

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of Lyme Park, I'll be talking shortly to our specialist Will Farmer

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about what would have been on Phyllis' Christmas list back then.

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But first, let's see what family heirlooms excited our experts

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when we visited here back in the summer.

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And first we're off to the races with expert Jon Baddeley,

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who uncovered an intriguing piece of history from the murky

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world of illegal betting.

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I have to say, this is one of the strangest things

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I've ever seen on the Antiques Roadshow.

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You've brought in a rather tatty canvas bag with a top made

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out of Bakelite, so not precious metals or anything.

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And the only give-away to what it is, it says, "The Tic-Tac."

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And although I'm not much of a racing person, I'm sure that's

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to do with a racing term about how they communicated.

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So tell me, what is it?

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Well, my mum used to have to run down to the train station with

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this bag full of betting slips.

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And when was this?

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This would have been during the war, so about 1942, 1943.

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-At which point betting was illegal, wasn't it?

-It was.

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So she is a bit concerned.

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So I won't give her name away.

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THEY LAUGH

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-She is worried.

-OK.

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So I would have knocked on her door

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and pretend to have a cup of tea and say,

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"Can I have £5 on the 3.30 at Chester?"

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And you put it in the bag.

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Well, the odds put on, you'd get your copy of that.

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-And it goes in.

-And it goes in.

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-OK.

-Right, so that's in the bag and there is the clock

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that's in there which currently tells the time.

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So when all bets have been taken, the clock gets put in the top

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here and then the top is put on,

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pushed up, it's now locked. That's stopped the clock.

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My mum had to run down to the station,

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give it to the station master or porter.

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It went on the train from Altrincham and at the other end,

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someone there took it to the illegal bookie's,

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who would get the bets out with the key and they would know

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at what time the bets were placed in, that they were placed

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before the race was won or run.

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So there was no opportunity to any skulduggery, so that

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actually somebody could put a bet in after the race had happened.

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That's right, they couldn't do it because the watch was stopped.

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-Absolutely ingenious.

-Yeah, ingenious.

-So...

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And nobody got caught.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Yet.

-Not yet.

-Oh, don't.

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-Well, bad news, it's...

-Worth nothing.

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-The bad news, it's not worth a great deal.

-OK.

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The good news is that we've all learned about what this is

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and I think it's ingenious and I love it,

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so it really should go into

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I think the Horse Racing Museum at Newmarket

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would be delighted to have that, as I'm sure they haven't got one.

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So it's a museum piece beyond value.

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Oh, she'll be delighted.

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-Good. Thank you very much.

-Thank you very much.

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-We've learned a lot.

-Thank you.

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So what's in this bright orange bag?

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So this is a picture that was in my granny's house in Liverpool.

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I've known it all my life.

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It's, as you can see, a little boy.

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So we've got a Christmassy scene with a boy,

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he's obviously gathering holly.

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Maybe he's been out borrowing it and he's going to sell it

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and make a few pennies.

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Rattling the change in his pocket here.

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I love the way he's got a little bit of holly in his hat there.

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-Yeah, that's really sweet, yeah.

-Yes, very sweet.

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I think he's been sent out to collect this

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and he didn't really want to go.

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That's... Oh, do you think that's what it is?

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And so he's a bit cold and wants to get back in.

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-He's definitely not looking happy about it, is he?

-Not at all.

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He's giving you a very beady eye.

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It's sort of a fairly bleak landscape there

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and rather unidentifiable, which is quite clever

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cos it could then be sold sort of more or less anywhere.

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Yeah, yeah, and do you put holly in the back of it at Christmas?

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-We do, yes.

-You do?

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-Yes, we do and we have it lit so that we can see.

-Excellent.

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The number of pictures one finds with holly berries stuck in the

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stretchers behind, it's, you know with a sort of pimple at the front.

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This one's actually on canvas laid on to board.

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It's signed down here J Aitken, a Scottish artist.

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Oh, right, OK.

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And it's probably sort of 1870s, 1880s.

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And right now, in this bright sunlight, I think it's rather nice.

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Yeah, well, we enjoy it, you know, I've always loved it

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and I hope that I'll always have it.

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So I think if you were to sell it,

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you'd get the best part of £1,000.

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-Really?

-Yeah.

-OK, that's really nice to know. Thank you.

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So you've come here wearing an absolutely massive necklace.

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You look like Boudicca, Queen of the Iceni.

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-Oh thank you.

-Where did you get it from?

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It came from my late husband's cousin who was a collector

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of beads and jewellery, and she puts pieces together.

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She used to live in London, she lives in Norfolk now and she's

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quite elderly, but she just has the most amazing collection.

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I used to do quite a lot to look after her, she used

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to give me something and I've inherited all this wonderful amber.

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It's stunning, isn't it and of course

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the east coast of England is a great place to find amber.

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It has a relationship with the Baltic countries.

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And from time to time, if you're really lucky, you can

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find it on the beaches in Southwold and Sheringham.

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But also your links to Boudicca and the Iceni are not

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fanciful at all because amber was hugely interesting to mankind since

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antiquity and people perhaps didn't understand it in the same way but

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it was hugely decorative and they took it to their graves with them.

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And what do you really like about it?

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Um, I love the colours, I love all the different things,

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so the earrings, the flies in them, the fact it's a very natural

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sort of material and I love the fact this is very light.

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I don't wear it very often, it's not a daily ritual to put this on.

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Oh, I think it is. I think it works really well.

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So amber, what is it? It's fossilised resin,

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isn't it, and it's hundreds of thousands of years old.

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This is sap that dripped down the sides of coniferous trees

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in the main, in an antediluvian forest that was hot and sticky,

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full of massive dragonflies and primeval beasts wandering around.

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And it is the purest form of fossil that we know about

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because when these flies fell into the sap, it overwhelmed them,

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it simply took over them

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and they're frozen into the substance of the amber perfectly.

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You can see, when one takes the microscope to them, you can see

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their compound eyes, their antenna, their wings and every aspect.

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They are the most perfect fossil that we can encounter.

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And so they're hugely influential in the world of palaeontology.

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But it's of great antiquity,

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hundreds of thousands of years old. So here are your earrings,

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aren't they, and there are insects imprisoned in there, aren't there?

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-Yes.

-Magic. So you've got fossil bugs swinging from your ears.

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But anyway, we're going to talk a bit about value

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and value's actually rather a strange phenomenon in this regard.

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Because the Chinese have taken a huge interest in amber.

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They love the amber that you're wearing round your neck,

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this opaque amber. And in my youth, this was really simply decorative.

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They were worth 80 to £100.

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What was 80 to £100 is now 500 or £600

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-and I think your necklace is worth £1,000.

-Oh, wow.

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And maybe this lovely selection you've brought here

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is worth another £1,000.

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So somewhere in the region of 2,000 maybe even £3,000.

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-My goodness, wow.

-A fortune.

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Well, thank you.

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I'm a book man myself,

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so it's really odd to find myself at the Antiques Roadshow

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with a piece of furniture,

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particularly one that looks as bizarre as this.

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But the reason is that he has a Dickens connection

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and he's in the Pickwick Papers. Now what do you know about him?

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I inherited the book and the figure from my paternal grandmother

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-and she was a Johnson.

-Mm-hmm.

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And she and her predecessors lived in Ayscoughfee Hall, in Spalding.

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-So that's where the book and the figure came from.

-Mm-hm.

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Well, let's see where this chap actually

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features in the Pickwick Papers.

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He's illustrated in part of the story here,

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one of the illustrations, and you can see him here kicking his leg up.

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Essentially, in brief, the story is that a traveller goes

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to a country pub, drinks too much, wakes up in the night

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and thinks that a chair is talking to him.

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And here's the chair here and it's a very close match.

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Do you know how the figure came to be in Ayscoughfee Hall?

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Yes. The library is panelled out with African mahogany

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and it was always understood in the family that the cabinet maker

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in the Grand House also possibly with having some

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leftover solid mahogany, made this figure.

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Right. Well it's very interesting.

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Obviously being a piece of furniture,

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I've showed it to one of my colleagues who deals with

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furniture and do you know, funnily enough, it's actually oak.

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-It's actually not mahogany.

-Oh, right.

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Which partly explains the weight, which you will have found

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when you were bringing it to the Roadshow and we think,

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you know, as you say, it dates from about 1840,

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which is exactly contemporaneous with the Pickwick Papers.

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And has it played a big part in your life?

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Well, he was always much-loved by my brother and I as children.

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He resided in my grandmother's hallway and we always tapped

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the top of his head every time before we went upstairs to bed.

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Ah, yeah. Well, he definitely appeals to children

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but I think he would appeal to Dickens collectors as well.

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I think, if he were to come up at auction, he would probably be

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estimated at something like 3,000 to £5,000.

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And I think he'd attract a huge amount of attention.

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-Thank you for bringing him.

-My pleasure.

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The most extraordinary thing is about this scrap album,

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is that we see hundreds on the Roadshow

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and they're never in really good condition.

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But I have seldom seen an album that is so beautiful as this one.

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So tell me about it. Where did it come from?

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Well, it was given to my Great Aunt Edith on her tenth birthday, so.

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So you've got a picture of her.

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Yes, that's her there and she must have compiled this over a few years.

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I don't know how it happened to come into my aunt's possession.

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-Was she a very meticulous person?

-Yes.

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Because this album has been maintained meticulously.

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It really is absolutely perfect.

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We've got a picture here to start off with, as you would,

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a Victorian lady, you'd start off with Queen Victoria of course

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and Balmoral, which looks very much as it does today.

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And you turn over the page and of course you've got

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the Prince and Princess of Wales.

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Then you go on and these I have rarely seen,

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which is a collection of Shakespeare characters,

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all with the actors of the day mentioned.

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Shylock and Portia.

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Then over here Beatrice and Benedick,

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which is Henry Irving, Sir Henry Irving

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and the great Ellen Terry here as well.

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And it goes on for pages like this, all beautifully decorated.

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But the thing I think that sticks out for me are these ones here

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and it's a panorama of Derby Day.

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And it starts off on the road to the Derby,

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the start and this is literally everybody going along to the Derby.

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The pictures here are absolutely stunning with

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all their carriages and everybody getting excited.

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These would have been bought from a stationer's.

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They'd have been transferred and cut up by your aunt

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and gradually laid out here. And it goes on,

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here we are, the road to the Derby and the road to refreshments

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and the inn here and we go on to the course and there's the race,

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which is absolutely tremendous. Derby Day was a great day.

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Everybody was having the most wonderful time.

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The Epsom Downs were covered with jugglers and conjurers

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and circus acts and all the rest of it.

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You said Epsom. Now, she lived in Epsom.

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-She lived in Epsom?

-Yes.

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-So this would have been absolutely perfect.

-Yes.

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And this is the Derby Day, the end of it and it's complete chaos

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and people are all over the place.

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They're drunk, they're falling off, it's an absolute riot.

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So what do you do with it now? Do you show it to your children?

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Yes, I show it to my grandchildren.

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My aunt, who used to look after this,

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-used to bring it out on special occasions.

-Yes.

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We used to sit round, my sister and I, and then my children when

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we went to visit her, she used to get it out and we had a look at it.

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Well, they're always terribly difficult to value,

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but I think you've got somewhere between

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-800 and £1,000 worth of scraps.

-Goodness me.

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That's wonderful.

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-It is, isn't it?

-Yes, yes.

-I think so too.

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And we will value it greatly.

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-Well, you do anyway. Thank you for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

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What a gorgeous scrapbook

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and we'll have more from our summer visit to Lyme Park in a moment.

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But first here at a Christmassy Lyme Park, I'm with Will Farmer.

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Now, Will, let's talk about Christmas Day, the high point for any

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child and grown-up, actually. And we're surrounded by gifts here.

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What kind of presents would a child like Phyllis, say, in 1906,

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have received under the tree?

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Well, of course she would have been in that most fantastically

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privileged position, you know, the daughter of a great estate owner.

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Her gifts would have been, you know, grand.

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They would have matched the environment that she lived in.

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It's not unreasonable that she would have come down on

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Christmas morning and under the tree, waiting for her, would have

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been a spectacular dolls' house. Something like this, which has been

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very kindly loaned to us from the Museum of Childhood at Sudbury Hall

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in Derbyshire. And a model like this would have quite possibly been built

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for Phyllis by one of the estate workers, the estate carpenter.

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Gosh. I can just imagine how excited a child would be to get that.

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The play that a child would have enjoyed with something like that.

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And what about the bear? Would that have come Phyllis's way?

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Oh without a doubt. I mean, just look at this bear. He's fantastic.

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I mean, it's the production of the great Steiff company.

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At the beginning of the 20th century, they were credited with

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launching the bear, creating the bear.

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And actually, by about 1907, it's down on record

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that it's believed they manufactured upwards of nearly a million bears.

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The catalogue of Steiff included some 1,300 different toys,

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felt animals, so somebody, maybe below stairs,

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could have quite happily accessed one of the little,

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sweet little bears or one of the sweet little felt toys.

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But a bear of this scale would have come to the

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daughter of a house like this.

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And what about the books because they're a perennial,

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aren't they, on Christmas Day?

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Well, these are actually mine.

0:18:020:18:03

I have a really close affection for these books

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because these were originally my grandfather's, who was born in 1911.

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He then handed them to my mum and then

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when it was deemed I was sensible and, you know, careful enough

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to own them, they came to me when I was about nine, ten years old.

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But this is a series of books, you know, The Wizard Of Oz,

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a story that is so magical that went on to be one of those most

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famous films in history.

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But what we're looking at here is the original start of that

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and these are beautifully-produced books.

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You know, Frank Baum first published that original story in 1900,

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but on it went to create a whole series of tales,

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from all those characters that we know.

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By the late 19th, early 20th century,

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when the printing presses were absolutely at full speed,

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it meant that books were accessible to anyone and everyone.

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-And what would these be worth today?

-Well it's really interesting

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because of course this has become a huge, huge area of collecting.

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If you can find a signed first edition with Frank Baum's

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signature in it, the most recent one sold actually fetched 152,000.

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-Wow.

-But these are sort of second editions, later editions.

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But even there, these books today are worth between,

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in the condition they're in, between 300, 400, £500 each.

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And what about the bear?

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That must be a stonking value, I would think.

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He's a good bear. He's a 1909 bear,

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he's got everything you would want from a Steiff bear of that date.

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Great colour, great condition, great expression, lovely hump,

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the boot button eyes.

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You want to own him, you're probably going to have to spend

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the best part of 4,000, maybe even £5,000.

0:19:410:19:44

Wow. Goodness me. Thanks, Will.

0:19:440:19:46

The carpenter we were talking about wouldn't have been

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making things just for Christmas Day for his children.

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Of course he would have been employed making

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and repairing things all around the estate, all year round.

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And one such piece came along to the Roadshow here at Lyme Park

0:19:560:19:59

when we visited in the summer, as Elaine Bingham found out.

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It's fascinating hearing stories of Christmas past here at Lyme.

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And I understand that the original owner of this table

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-was a relation of yours.

-Correct.

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And he's mentioned in this book.

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-He is.

-There's an account of a Christmas here at Lyme.

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-There is.

-Who was he?

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My great-great grandfather, Samuel Gregory,

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was in service on the Lyme Estate in the late 1800s.

0:20:280:20:33

And you have a photograph of him.

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Yes, that's him on the golf course at Lyme.

0:20:350:20:38

And what was his role here?

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He was a plumber, plumber and glazier.

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This is a drop leaf table,

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really copying a mahogany table of the time,

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but made around 1800.

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And I suspect that the carpenter,

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your great-grandfather's friend on the estate,

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probably found this, I don't know, in an old shed or something,

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in slightly bad repair,

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because there are various changes that have been made to it.

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And if I lift this leaf here,

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the leaf has been re-tipped.

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Do you see what fantastic quality timber this is

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and this is a very even-grained, rather dull bit of oak.

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So it's been re-tipped

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and then the whole of this leaf is a later replacement.

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And the other thing is that the legs have been cut down at some point.

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And with a bit of ingenuity and some castors that I suspect were left

0:21:270:21:31

over from an old sofa, they've been put on to the bottom of the table.

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So could well have been made around 1800 here,

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by the estate carpenter of the time, but then 100 years later,

0:21:400:21:44

has been sort of, had renewed life breathed into it.

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So this is part of Lyme's history

0:21:490:21:51

-but it's also part of your family history.

-Yes, it is.

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-And do you remember this table?

-Totally.

0:21:540:21:56

I've eaten every meal off it and done all my homework at it.

0:21:560:21:59

You know, this is our living room, everyday table,

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it has a place right at the heart of our family.

0:22:020:22:05

We're downsizing and one thing and another,

0:22:050:22:08

and I just always felt it should come home to Lyme.

0:22:080:22:12

So in 2011 we came to Lyme Park and asked them, you know,

0:22:120:22:16

would they be interested in the table coming home from whence

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it was made because we believe it is made from Lyme Park oak.

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Well, let's look at the oak.

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It is oak and it's a gorgeous cut of oak too.

0:22:250:22:27

Look at these wonderful...

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Look at the medullary rays here, this iridescent figuring.

0:22:290:22:33

This is a great cut of oak.

0:22:330:22:35

Look at the life and colour to it.

0:22:350:22:37

Where is it used now?

0:22:370:22:38

Well, that's the interesting thing.

0:22:380:22:40

Because it's lived here ever since 2011,

0:22:400:22:43

the joy for me was when I found out that it is now in use

0:22:430:22:46

on a daily basis in the administrator's office.

0:22:460:22:49

So the National Trust people actually do their work on it.

0:22:490:22:53

It's a table that's moved with the times.

0:22:530:22:56

After that wonderful story, it's worth less than £100.

0:22:560:23:01

-Yes, absolutely.

-But the story for me is everything.

0:23:010:23:03

-I know, yes, thank you.

-Thank you so much for telling me all about it.

0:23:030:23:06

You're welcome, thank you.

0:23:060:23:08

Well, your cup and saucer begs an awful lot of questions,

0:23:120:23:16

for the simple reason that the handle isn't where

0:23:160:23:20

it should be, it's actually in there.

0:23:200:23:23

Let's put it to one side. OK.

0:23:230:23:26

And let's have a look at the saucer

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because, you know, it's in something of a state, all right.

0:23:280:23:31

So what I need to know is, does this cup and saucer have a story to tell?

0:23:310:23:38

It does indeed, yes.

0:23:380:23:40

This was given to my fourth great-grandmother,

0:23:400:23:44

Lady Sarah Lennox,

0:23:440:23:46

who was the daughter of the second Duke of Richmond.

0:23:460:23:49

The Duchess of Brunswick gave it to her daughter, Queen Caroline,

0:23:490:23:54

so George IV's wife, and it was given to her probably around 1820.

0:23:540:24:00

We've had some name-dropping on this programme

0:24:010:24:04

but that takes the biscuit, that really does.

0:24:040:24:07

So, I mean, everybody behind you is wondering

0:24:070:24:10

whether they should have curtsied to you when you appeared on set.

0:24:100:24:14

Well, I am actually Princess Diana's sixth cousin.

0:24:140:24:18

-Are you really?

-Yes.

-Well...

0:24:180:24:20

And is there anybody else in Bolton that has the same title?

0:24:200:24:24

-That's what we need to know.

-Not that I know of.

0:24:240:24:27

-OK, so what we're looking at here is a bit of a relic, yes?

-Yes.

0:24:270:24:32

I love something that's...

0:24:320:24:34

I mean, especially when you look at the script on that.

0:24:340:24:37

I mean, that looks as though it was written in around about 1830, 1840.

0:24:370:24:43

And it all tends to fit because, you know, when you get a story

0:24:430:24:50

like that, you look at the piece and before you know the story

0:24:500:24:55

you know that this probably dates from about 1820

0:24:550:25:01

because it's a cabinet cup.

0:25:010:25:03

Let's just show it in a better light.

0:25:030:25:06

-If you could afford something like this, you had money, OK.

-Right.

0:25:060:25:09

Would it have been part of a set?

0:25:090:25:11

Yes, it would have been part of a set and it is for coffee.

0:25:110:25:15

And if we turn it upside down, the story is collaborated

0:25:150:25:19

by the fact that this has got a mark for the Furstenberg factory.

0:25:190:25:24

-Right.

-So we're in Germany,

0:25:240:25:26

but it is a typical cabinet cup of that period.

0:25:260:25:29

And have you been tempted to have it properly restored?

0:25:290:25:33

I have thought about it, yes.

0:25:330:25:35

Well, I think you, you know, it is one of those things that

0:25:350:25:38

would probably benefit from it as long as it's not over-restored.

0:25:380:25:41

So it does, you know, on this programme,

0:25:410:25:44

bring us to the question of, "What's it worth?"

0:25:440:25:47

And I think really, I think by having it restored, then the chances

0:25:470:25:52

are that it would be worth about 400 or £500.

0:25:520:25:55

But it's got far more going for it than money.

0:25:550:25:59

Right, yeah, I totally agree.

0:25:590:26:01

So, all I can say is, thank you so much, milady.

0:26:010:26:05

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much.

0:26:050:26:08

350 years ago, when this portrait was painted,

0:26:120:26:17

clearly this was a young man worth knowing.

0:26:170:26:19

He's got a military baton, he's got a breastplate.

0:26:190:26:23

So how did you come about him?

0:26:230:26:25

An antique dealer brought it to me to clean and I did that

0:26:250:26:28

-and then I bought it from him.

-To clean? What are you, a restorer?

0:26:280:26:31

I am, I'm afraid, yes. So I bought it.

0:26:310:26:34

Would you like to tell us how much it cost?

0:26:340:26:36

About 850. That was back in about 1978, perhaps.

0:26:360:26:41

Let's get back to who this man might be, because he's got a baton,

0:26:410:26:46

he's got a breastplate, he looks, I don't know, I'm being a bit

0:26:460:26:49

sort of subjective here, he looks like a young aristo about town.

0:26:490:26:54

I would say he's what, 15 or 16 years old?

0:26:540:26:56

Painted in the 1670s, he looks a bit like the illegitimate

0:26:560:27:00

son of Charles II possibly, the Duke of Monmouth.

0:27:000:27:02

-Hint, hint, yes.

-Although I don't think it is him.

0:27:020:27:05

-Oh, right.

-But he's got a very distinctive face

0:27:050:27:08

and what is lovely for 17th century portraiture, which can be

0:27:080:27:12

a bit hard on the eye, it's a very yielding, attractive face.

0:27:120:27:16

It's very likeable, yeah.

0:27:160:27:17

He's very likeable and then because he's got a baton and because he's

0:27:170:27:20

got a breastplate, I bet you he's someone of considerable influence,

0:27:200:27:24

probably from one of the great aristocratic families of the period.

0:27:240:27:28

And so, how about the artist as well,

0:27:280:27:31

so what did you think as you began to clean this picture?

0:27:310:27:34

Well, the easy choice

0:27:340:27:36

if you don't have access to a lot of information would be Lely.

0:27:360:27:40

Well Sir Peter Lely is the artist who comes to mind. Why?

0:27:400:27:44

Because he's the court painter around Charles II,

0:27:440:27:47

when this picture was painted.

0:27:470:27:50

He carries on, he takes the baton as it

0:27:500:27:52

were from Van Dyck as the leading court painter.

0:27:520:27:56

But I don't know if it is by Lely

0:27:560:27:59

because Lely has a slightly more distinctive

0:27:590:28:01

way of handling his drapery, wouldn't you think, as a restorer?

0:28:010:28:04

Could be that then he maybe just came along

0:28:040:28:06

and tickled up the end of it or something.

0:28:060:28:08

There were other people working on it.

0:28:080:28:09

You're absolutely right.

0:28:090:28:11

Lely had people who helped him

0:28:110:28:13

and we're beginning to map out the different styles.

0:28:130:28:16

There was a woman who worked with him, Mary Beale,

0:28:160:28:18

there was another artist called William Wissing.

0:28:180:28:21

I don't know at this stage

0:28:210:28:22

but I would suspect it is by one of the assistants in Lely's studio.

0:28:220:28:27

Well, the hands aren't terribly good.

0:28:270:28:29

I think you're so right to pick up on that because I think the

0:28:290:28:33

face is very beguiling, I think the drapery is quite well done.

0:28:330:28:37

The hand, the right hand looks a bit like the fin of a fish, really.

0:28:370:28:40

-Yes.

-But let's not get too hung up on that because I think

0:28:400:28:44

it's a really lovely baroque image

0:28:440:28:47

and, you know, life is cruel in the art world.

0:28:470:28:50

If you've got a good-looking sitter,

0:28:500:28:52

they are an awful lot more easy to sell than their plain counterparts

0:28:520:28:56

-and we've got here a rather radiantly attractive young man.

-Yes.

0:28:560:29:01

Well, I was certainly glad to buy it, you know.

0:29:020:29:05

Does this have a carved frame?

0:29:050:29:07

It has a carved frame,

0:29:070:29:08

the sort of thing that they would have made in the early 18th century.

0:29:080:29:11

So what we're dealing with is an artist we don't know the name of

0:29:110:29:15

but it's very closely, warmly in the orbit of the great Sir Peter Lely.

0:29:150:29:19

If it has a good early carved frame,

0:29:190:29:22

this is a supremely decorative baroque image,

0:29:220:29:25

and as a result, I think that one can give it a very good valuation.

0:29:250:29:30

-You ended up paying £850.

-Yes.

0:29:300:29:33

All those decades later, with a good carved frame,

0:29:330:29:36

I would value it as a Studio Of Lely piece,

0:29:360:29:40

around about actually the age of the sitter, 15 or £16,000.

0:29:400:29:45

Gasp, as they say. Right, good.

0:29:450:29:48

-Thank you for that.

-Pleasure.

0:29:480:29:51

I know a Swedish glass designer, Goran Warff,

0:29:540:29:59

who says that glass eats light.

0:29:590:30:02

And I mean this is just sucking the light out of the sun

0:30:020:30:07

and glowing in a way that is magical, isn't it?

0:30:070:30:10

It is beautiful, yes, I think it is.

0:30:100:30:12

How long have you known it?

0:30:120:30:13

My parents bought it in Malta.

0:30:130:30:16

They went on a holiday about 1970, I think.

0:30:160:30:20

They went on a tour of this factory

0:30:200:30:23

which was run by an Englishman called Michael Harris.

0:30:230:30:25

They brought that back with them and got him to sign it on the bottom.

0:30:250:30:29

It's a beautiful thing and Michael Harris is an important man

0:30:290:30:33

in terms of glass-making because he took British glass-making from

0:30:330:30:37

the traditional cut sherry glass into the studio glass movement.

0:30:370:30:43

He was Britain's first studio glass-maker.

0:30:430:30:46

So every single thing that he made, he regarded as a unique object.

0:30:460:30:49

You didn't buy sets of six of Michael Harris's

0:30:490:30:52

work at the Mdina glass works that he founded on Malta in 1968.

0:30:520:30:58

But he was very unlucky, Michael, in that Dom Mintoff had just

0:30:580:31:03

been elected the President of Malta and he had basically told

0:31:030:31:08

the Brits to leave. And the Harrises left to come back to England.

0:31:080:31:12

They were forced out, so he had this short three year period.

0:31:120:31:17

Michael was very reluctant to sign.

0:31:170:31:19

He didn't like it because he figured what we make is the union of us all.

0:31:190:31:23

We are all behind this,

0:31:230:31:25

so to put my name on it is wrong and presumptuous.

0:31:250:31:29

However the only way Michael would sign stuff is if you were

0:31:290:31:32

standing in Mdina at the time with money in your hand and you'll

0:31:320:31:38

say, "I'll buy it if you'll sign it."

0:31:380:31:41

And so you're absolutely right

0:31:410:31:43

is that this has the signature, Michael Harris, Mdina Glass, Malta.

0:31:430:31:50

-And that's rare.

-Is it?

0:31:520:31:53

So you've got £150 art object,

0:31:530:31:57

but it's £150 art object with a signature

0:31:570:32:01

which multiplies that value by a factor of ten,

0:32:010:32:04

making it worth between 1,000 and 1,500 quid.

0:32:040:32:08

Brilliant, it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

0:32:080:32:10

Well done, Mother.

0:32:100:32:12

THEY LAUGH

0:32:120:32:15

I'll let her go when we get home.

0:32:150:32:16

She's 95 and she's still going strong,

0:32:160:32:19

so she'll be pleased to hear it.

0:32:190:32:21

It's a lovely early pram.

0:32:220:32:26

I mean, look at the style of that.

0:32:260:32:28

I mean, it's almost like a real, proper baby carriage.

0:32:280:32:33

You know, we can see where we get the name from now.

0:32:330:32:36

What's your link to it?

0:32:360:32:38

My mum bought this in 2004.

0:32:380:32:44

She bought it from an antique shop and the story was that it was

0:32:440:32:48

used in Buckingham Palace and it came from Queen Victoria's reign.

0:32:480:32:53

We were just interested to know if there was any truth in that, really.

0:32:530:32:59

Well, there is this lovely document here attached to the handle.

0:32:590:33:04

Yes, one of 22 apparently, ordered by Queen Victoria

0:33:040:33:08

for use by visiting dignitaries with their children.

0:33:080:33:12

And it was only really in the 19th century that

0:33:120:33:16

the idea of a mode of transport for your children

0:33:160:33:20

began to be widely used

0:33:200:33:22

and it was in fact Queen Victoria that made the whole baby carriage,

0:33:220:33:26

or perambulator, really fashionable and it became the thing to do.

0:33:260:33:30

But this little piece of paper goes on to say that it was used

0:33:300:33:35

only for use indoors,

0:33:350:33:39

not for outside use.

0:33:390:33:42

And so that you could wheel it up a corridor and then you could

0:33:420:33:46

push it from the other end without having to turn it round.

0:33:460:33:49

So what makes me think that that could be true?

0:33:490:33:52

Well, there are two things to say.

0:33:520:33:55

First of all, is the wheels.

0:33:550:33:57

I can see that that would work.

0:33:570:33:59

They're roughly the same size, whereas on an outdoor carriage,

0:33:590:34:03

you tended to have them one big one and one small one.

0:34:030:34:06

So the other thing I would say about it being used for indoors,

0:34:060:34:10

is that these handles are actually very close

0:34:100:34:14

-to the body of the carriage, aren't they?

-Mm-hm.

0:34:140:34:17

You know, you wouldn't need a high, extended handle

0:34:170:34:20

if you were just wheeling them up and down the corridors.

0:34:200:34:22

You know, the clues are stacking up in favour of the internal use.

0:34:220:34:27

What I'd love to see is a really great coat of arms on the side

0:34:270:34:32

and the document says that there was one but it was taken off.

0:34:320:34:35

Well, that's handy, isn't it?

0:34:350:34:38

The perambulator itself is certainly of quality.

0:34:380:34:42

You've only got to look at the way that it's constructed.

0:34:420:34:46

The bad news is that I cannot confirm that story.

0:34:460:34:51

-Now, when it comes to value, it's a 300 to £500 object.

-Yes.

0:34:520:34:57

If the story can be substantiated,

0:34:570:35:00

I reckon it could get into four figures.

0:35:000:35:02

Wow, wow. That's amazing.

0:35:020:35:06

-Are these members of the family?

-Yes.

0:35:060:35:09

Equally pleased. Good.

0:35:090:35:11

THEY LAUGH

0:35:110:35:12

Thanks very much.

0:35:120:35:13

How wonderful if that pram really was used in Buckingham Palace.

0:35:260:35:30

Let's hope the owner can find some clues as to its regal past.

0:35:300:35:33

Will Farmer is back with me. And, Will, we've been talking

0:35:330:35:36

about Christmas presents in these glorious Christmassy surroundings.

0:35:360:35:39

We were talking about the Edwardian era,

0:35:390:35:41

but let's bring it a bit more up-to-date.

0:35:410:35:43

Now, this I remember from my childhood.

0:35:430:35:45

Oh, so do I. Good Lord. And I think what we are surrounded by

0:35:450:35:48

are things that I sort of call the dawn of merchandising.

0:35:480:35:51

This is where it all starts to change for the manufacturers,

0:35:510:35:54

the promoters and we've got things here linked to television.

0:35:540:35:57

You pointed straight in at the Magic Roundabout.

0:35:570:36:00

Well, those of us watching and those of us here of a certain age,

0:36:000:36:03

we'll remember this with great affection.

0:36:030:36:05

Oh, I do, I could sing the theme tune, but I'll spare you that,

0:36:050:36:08

but, yes, absolutely.

0:36:080:36:09

And what you've got there really is the absolute

0:36:090:36:12

Rolls-Royce of their toys and their production.

0:36:120:36:14

I mean, this was called the Playground Set and do you know,

0:36:140:36:18

this was launched in 1969, it was £13 in 1969.

0:36:180:36:22

To put that into context,

0:36:220:36:23

-that's equivalent to about £200 in today's money.

-Wow.

0:36:230:36:27

You could actually buy everything on there as an individual,

0:36:270:36:30

you know, and that's the idea.

0:36:300:36:32

Get the children hooked in, start to spread the thought,

0:36:320:36:34

get the parents spending more money.

0:36:340:36:36

Yeah, been there, done that with my own children.

0:36:360:36:38

What would this be worth now?

0:36:380:36:40

-It was obviously so expensive at the time.

-Well, absolutely.

0:36:400:36:43

I mean, if you look at this as a complete full set,

0:36:430:36:45

today one of those in unplayed, sort of mint, near mint

0:36:450:36:49

and boxed condition, is going to be upwards of £500.

0:36:490:36:52

And what about the rest of what we've got here?

0:36:520:36:54

Well, we've got some great stuff.

0:36:540:36:56

Here, of course, you know, the die-cast toys,

0:36:560:36:58

coming on the back of those really great programmes, your Thunderbirds,

0:36:580:37:02

your Captain Scarlets, and these just hooked into kids' imaginations

0:37:020:37:05

like you would never believe, because these were accessible.

0:37:050:37:09

I mean, if you look at FAB1 there,

0:37:090:37:11

it's one of those toys everyone remembers,

0:37:110:37:13

Lady Penelope's limousine with Parker up front.

0:37:130:37:16

And as a child in 1967, if you went out with 15 shillings and 11 pence,

0:37:160:37:21

so about 80p, there or thereabouts, you could take that home.

0:37:210:37:25

And the interesting thing is today, you've got to think again,

0:37:250:37:28

it's all about condition.

0:37:280:37:30

An FAB1 is worth, in really good mint condition, 400 or £500 now.

0:37:300:37:35

Play-worn, maybe £100.

0:37:350:37:37

But it was the die-cast market that rocketed,

0:37:370:37:39

but these are the toys that kids hook on to.

0:37:390:37:42

They took them out into the garden, played with them, went

0:37:420:37:44

on adventures with their brothers, their sisters, their friends.

0:37:440:37:47

But it's about that idea of dragging it all out

0:37:470:37:50

to make sure your parents stick with that programme, stick

0:37:500:37:52

with that television series and make sure that you just keep spending.

0:37:520:37:56

Doctor Who, I spot back here. As popular now as it was then.

0:37:560:37:59

Well, indeed.

0:37:590:38:00

It is an absolute jewel in the crown of the BBC, isn't it?

0:38:000:38:03

It's one of these programmes, it's the longest running sci-fi programme

0:38:030:38:07

and it's something again that just captures everybody's imagination.

0:38:070:38:10

The Daleks were first introduced in episode two,

0:38:100:38:13

in a programme called Dead Planet

0:38:130:38:15

and from that it just went crazy.

0:38:150:38:18

Now you've got to bear in mind that there's no one company that

0:38:180:38:21

actually manufactured anything to do with Doctor Who.

0:38:210:38:24

There were hundreds of companies,

0:38:240:38:25

everyone all over was producing their own interpretations.

0:38:250:38:28

Probably the rarest thing we've got there on show is that

0:38:280:38:31

Dodge The Daleks game, which was actually launched 1963, 1964.

0:38:310:38:35

If anyone out there's got one of those,

0:38:350:38:37

today you're looking at a board game worth 200 to £300.

0:38:370:38:40

Amazing, Thanks, Will. Brings back a few memories.

0:38:410:38:44

Oh, totally.

0:38:440:38:45

And shortly on the programme we'll reveal which object fetched

0:38:450:38:49

the highest price when it was sold after appearing on the Roadshow.

0:38:490:38:52

But first, back to our visit here this summer, when Marc Allum was

0:38:520:38:56

shown a kitchen set which was given as a magical Christmas present.

0:38:560:39:00

A while ago I filmed a full-size kitchen on the Antiques Roadshow and

0:39:010:39:05

it was an English Rose kitchen from the 1950s, but what do we have here?

0:39:050:39:08

We have what really is kind of the equivalent of it

0:39:080:39:11

really in miniature, isn't it? So what's the story behind it?

0:39:110:39:14

It was Christmas time... It was best Christmas box.

0:39:140:39:18

We used to have something, you know,

0:39:180:39:20

a pillow case filled up with small things,

0:39:200:39:23

books and things like that

0:39:230:39:25

and then we had the grand tie and that was it.

0:39:250:39:27

-This was your big Christmas present, was it?

-Yeah, yeah.

0:39:270:39:30

And what sort of age would you have been, can you remember?

0:39:300:39:33

-I'd say about five, five or six.

-About five.

0:39:330:39:36

Now this would have been quite expensive,

0:39:360:39:38

this collection in the 1950s.

0:39:380:39:40

-You got this all at the same time, did you?

-Yeah.

0:39:400:39:42

Well, there is a lot of play value in it and I particularly love

0:39:420:39:45

the Amersham toys range here, really lovely, very much of its time.

0:39:450:39:49

And do you know, what were your other over-riding

0:39:490:39:52

feelings about Christmas?

0:39:520:39:53

Were there any real stories that you remember that really

0:39:530:39:56

encapsulate Christmas for you?

0:39:560:39:58

Yes, what used to happen is the day before Christmas, my mum used

0:39:580:40:01

to ask us what did we want for Christmas and she would say,

0:40:010:40:05

"But before you go any further," she said, she'd take us to the fireplace

0:40:050:40:08

and we had an open coal fire, but we didn't know there was a pipe

0:40:080:40:11

that let the air through for the coals to light outside.

0:40:110:40:15

And my dad had gone outside without us knowing and we'd be shouting up

0:40:150:40:20

the chimney saying, "Father Christmas, are you there?"

0:40:200:40:23

-And we'd hear this, "Ho-ho-ho."

-Really?

0:40:230:40:26

Yeah, yeah, just wondered. Thought, "Gosh, this is magic."

0:40:260:40:29

And I used to sort of look at my sisters and think,

0:40:290:40:31

"Wow, you know, he really is there."

0:40:310:40:34

And we'd try and look up and try and see him.

0:40:340:40:36

Then we'd shout up then. We had one toy that we were supposed to say

0:40:360:40:41

and, you know, it could have been a teddy bear or it could have been

0:40:410:40:45

a doll, but that one thing.

0:40:450:40:46

Then Father Christmas would shout back and say,

0:40:460:40:49

"Right, you've got to be very good then and go to bed tonight

0:40:490:40:52

"and sleep, otherwise I won't come."

0:40:520:40:54

So then that night we'd run upstairs,

0:40:540:40:56

-cover up and wait till he comes. It was exciting.

-That's brilliant.

0:40:560:41:00

That's a lovely, lovely story.

0:41:000:41:01

Well, this was obviously magic to you too.

0:41:010:41:03

To be honest with you, in terms of putting a value on it,

0:41:030:41:05

the Amersham toy range is a lovely thing.

0:41:050:41:08

To a good retro collector,

0:41:080:41:09

someone who's really interested in things of this style, it's a

0:41:090:41:12

real gem and I think, you know, that's probably worth around

0:41:120:41:15

about 150, £200 to a collector.

0:41:150:41:17

And I think probably collectively there's about 300 or £400

0:41:170:41:20

on the table here. I can see the fact that you still have it all

0:41:200:41:23

and you've still kept it, it means a great deal to you, doesn't it?

0:41:230:41:27

-Yeah, never part with it, yeah.

-Lovely. Thank you ever so much.

0:41:270:41:29

-OK, thank you.

-And Merry Christmas.

-Right.

0:41:290:41:32

Wow, how wacky is this?

0:41:350:41:38

I mean, it's extraordinary, it looks like a snake,

0:41:380:41:41

I mean, you'd smoke yourself dizzy with that.

0:41:410:41:43

Is it something that you smoke after dinner of an evening?

0:41:430:41:48

Not recently, no.

0:41:480:41:49

So is it something you inherited or something you bought?

0:41:490:41:53

It belongs to my mum and she inherited it from my father's

0:41:530:41:58

great aunt who was a governess.

0:41:580:42:00

She travelled, in particular, across to America and also

0:42:000:42:04

round this country, looking after the children of different families.

0:42:040:42:09

That's all I know. It belonged to her and she left it to my dad.

0:42:090:42:14

So you don't know where she picked it up, really?

0:42:140:42:16

I know for a time that she lived in Staffordshire,

0:42:160:42:20

but I don't really know very much else about that.

0:42:200:42:22

She was quite a formidable woman, that's all I know.

0:42:220:42:25

Well, this style of thing hails from Staffordshire.

0:42:250:42:28

I mean, it's Prattware

0:42:280:42:29

and that was established in Staffordshire in the 1770s.

0:42:290:42:33

But it was also a style that was adopted by other factories.

0:42:330:42:35

-And I actually think this one's from Yorkshire.

-Right.

0:42:350:42:39

It's a fantastic thing.

0:42:390:42:41

Some people might call it a puzzle pipe, but it's just

0:42:410:42:44

a novelty pipe because a puzzle pipe would have other holes,

0:42:440:42:47

so it was funny, the smoke would come out of a hole somewhere else.

0:42:470:42:50

I have tried to blow it actually

0:42:500:42:52

and I think something's crawled in there and died.

0:42:520:42:55

Quite possibly, yes.

0:42:550:42:56

I can see some ageing there and I think that's heat.

0:42:560:43:01

This style of thing is from about 1800.

0:43:010:43:03

And a thing of this complexity remaining intact,

0:43:030:43:08

I find extraordinary.

0:43:080:43:09

I love these ochres and blue, typical.

0:43:090:43:13

Do you want to know how much it's worth?

0:43:130:43:15

I'm sure my mum would.

0:43:150:43:16

Well, normal pipes of this type, straight ones are about

0:43:160:43:21

20, 30, £40, sometimes they're signed.

0:43:210:43:24

This novelty pipe, these proportions, this condition,

0:43:240:43:29

those lovely colours, the ochre and blue,

0:43:290:43:31

I'd say 300 to £500.

0:43:310:43:34

Fantastic. Thank you very much.

0:43:340:43:36

This Santa comes from Hong Kong in 1961.

0:43:430:43:47

My husband and I were touring the Far East and working

0:43:470:43:51

in Hong Kong at Christmas time, so this was a Christmas gift.

0:43:510:43:56

It's good old Father Christmas. Where does he come from?

0:43:560:43:59

It's my mum's.

0:43:590:44:00

She bought him back in the early 1950s,

0:44:000:44:05

-off Bird's Custards for, she thinks, two and six.

-Right.

0:44:050:44:09

And then he's travelled around the world with us

0:44:090:44:11

cos we lived in the States for a while.

0:44:110:44:14

So he's been out to California, then New York and then back to England.

0:44:140:44:17

He's quite something, isn't he?

0:44:170:44:19

Yes, he's lovely, he's lovely.

0:44:190:44:22

TOY PLAYS JINGLE BELLS

0:44:260:44:30

And as you travelled round the world in these hot

0:44:300:44:32

places at Christmas time, did you have custard

0:44:320:44:35

with your Christmas pudding on Christmas Day in this jug?

0:44:350:44:38

Yes, well, white sauce. White sauce with brandy.

0:44:380:44:42

SHE LAUGHS

0:44:420:44:43

Yes, he's been used every Christmas.

0:44:430:44:45

So it's a pottery jug,

0:44:450:44:48

made in a factory in Staffordshire.

0:44:480:44:50

Have you heard of the St Claus factory?

0:44:500:44:52

-No, there isn't one surely.

-No, I'm only joking.

0:44:520:44:55

So what's the tune?

0:45:000:45:02

# Jingle bells, jingle bells... #

0:45:020:45:07

-And then all over again.

-I recognise it.

-Jingle Bells.

0:45:070:45:12

-Do you love it?

-Yes. Oh, yes. We use him every Christmas now.

0:45:120:45:15

Well, worth, I don't know, 20 or £30,

0:45:150:45:18

-but to your family history, priceless.

-Exactly, yes.

0:45:180:45:21

Very true.

0:45:210:45:23

-And so he's kept in the attic now?

-Yes, I'm afraid so.

0:45:240:45:27

Ah, but you're mother and daughter here, you could have him out.

0:45:270:45:30

But never forgotten him, never forgotten him, though, have we?

0:45:300:45:33

And do you think you might be tempted to get him out

0:45:330:45:35

if you knew he was worth 200 to £300?

0:45:350:45:37

THEY LAUGH

0:45:370:45:39

Well, maybe.

0:45:390:45:41

Maybe not.

0:45:410:45:42

Santa, I'm putting you back in the box.

0:45:430:45:45

These people don't love you very much at all.

0:45:450:45:48

Santa, you deserve better.

0:45:480:45:49

This brooch should come with a sign saying,

0:45:550:45:58

"If you wear me, I'll make you chuckle,"

0:45:580:46:00

because when I opened this brooch,

0:46:000:46:02

it was the first thing I did, was chuckle.

0:46:020:46:04

I think it's delightful. Tell me its journey.

0:46:040:46:08

I believe it was bought in the Bahamas for my mother

0:46:090:46:14

by my father and probably about the 1970s.

0:46:140:46:18

So, I mean, this is quite a brave brooch to buy your wife,

0:46:180:46:23

-do you think?

-Perhaps, yes.

0:46:230:46:25

-And it's very unusual.

-Yes.

0:46:250:46:27

And in fact, these are called novelty brooches,

0:46:270:46:30

for that very fact.

0:46:300:46:32

And you say it was bought in the '70s.

0:46:320:46:34

Well, in the '60s, very much the period of the novelty brooch.

0:46:340:46:39

I mean, you had all the big jewellery houses,

0:46:390:46:41

you had Van Cleef, Kaczynski,

0:46:410:46:43

Cartier, David Webb,

0:46:430:46:46

all these different houses were all making novelty brooches.

0:46:460:46:50

I think because it was a fun period, you know, the '60s, people

0:46:500:46:53

were having fun, and this to me is a beautiful example of that period.

0:46:530:47:00

It's more sort of '60s,

0:47:000:47:01

so it probably was just a little bit older than when he first bought it.

0:47:010:47:05

I think it looks a European manufacture.

0:47:050:47:09

I love the head, with the way that you've got all the feathers.

0:47:090:47:13

Yeah, I know, they're beautiful, aren't they?

0:47:130:47:15

It is beautifully made, isn't it? And it is all real.

0:47:150:47:19

You know, you've got this wonderful collar here with the little

0:47:190:47:23

diamonds, you've got rubies and sapphires

0:47:230:47:28

and you've got this lovely pearl.

0:47:280:47:30

It does amuse me that it's only got one eye.

0:47:300:47:34

I know. I noticed that as well.

0:47:340:47:37

I think that's, I think

0:47:370:47:39

the goldsmith's having a bit of a laugh here, isn't he?

0:47:390:47:42

And, you know, I think it deserves being called, having a name.

0:47:420:47:47

What shall we call him? You name him.

0:47:470:47:50

He looks like Tweetie Pie.

0:47:500:47:51

THEY LAUGH

0:47:510:47:54

That's a good name.

0:47:540:47:55

That's a good name. Do you wear it?

0:47:550:47:57

No. I don't at all.

0:47:570:47:59

But I think you should

0:47:590:48:00

because it's going to make you chuckle, I think, when you wear it.

0:48:000:48:04

-Yes, yes.

-You know, at auction, I would say it's in the region

0:48:040:48:08

of about £1,500 to £2,000.

0:48:080:48:12

Is it? Excellent.

0:48:120:48:13

Well, thank you for bringing Tweetie Pie in.

0:48:130:48:16

Yes, thank you very much for seeing it, that's lovely. Thank you.

0:48:160:48:19

Thank you very much.

0:48:190:48:20

Well, we've had a lot of people in from the locality

0:48:220:48:25

with their treasures for valuation, but this piece has

0:48:250:48:28

come from much further away. And in a sense, it's coming

0:48:280:48:32

home for the day because, Lord Newton,

0:48:320:48:35

this is your ancestral home.

0:48:350:48:38

That's right, yes.

0:48:380:48:39

My family lived here for 550 years,

0:48:390:48:43

till 1946, when my grandfather gave Lyme to the National Trust.

0:48:430:48:47

So what are your personal memories of this piece?

0:48:470:48:51

How has it survived in the family?

0:48:510:48:53

Well, some of the contents were removed by my grandfather

0:48:530:48:57

when he gave Lyme away and it passed to my father

0:48:570:49:01

-and then has come down to me now.

-OK.

0:49:010:49:04

Well, when I saw it, obviously the first thing that attracted me

0:49:040:49:09

was the use of minerals, hard-stones, in conjunction

0:49:090:49:13

with silver, to form this delicious handle, because we've two minerals.

0:49:130:49:19

We've banded agate and then we've got the use of carnelian, these

0:49:190:49:24

two inverted balusters conjoined by a fluted knop,

0:49:240:49:29

mounted with silver.

0:49:290:49:31

But you know, this is a dagger.

0:49:310:49:34

But it's terribly elegant, it's actually

0:49:340:49:37

-so finely made that it couldn't really be used in anger.

-Right.

0:49:370:49:42

This very much a sort of a dress dagger.

0:49:440:49:48

How old do you think it is?

0:49:480:49:51

I mean, is there any family tradition?

0:49:510:49:54

The family tradition is that it belonged to King Charles I, although

0:49:540:49:58

we believe that it was about a century earlier that it was created.

0:49:580:50:04

-OK.

-But maybe that's wrong.

0:50:040:50:06

Yeah, well, there's elements of truth.

0:50:060:50:10

If I actually slide the sheath back, indeed there is the name,

0:50:100:50:15

in Latin, Carolus, which is Charles, on the blade.

0:50:150:50:20

But I have to ask myself, is it Charles I,

0:50:200:50:24

because Charles was a very common name in the 16th century.

0:50:240:50:27

Of course, yes.

0:50:270:50:29

It was indeed. I've conferred with colleagues as well.

0:50:290:50:32

We think this is a 16th-century piece

0:50:320:50:35

that would have been used by a noble.

0:50:350:50:37

Quite where, specifically, I'm not sure

0:50:390:50:43

because its manufacture is almost certainly Italy, so it could

0:50:430:50:46

have been made in Italy, found its way here and was something of a sort

0:50:460:50:53

of presentation piece, something that would become a family treasure.

0:50:530:50:57

But of course, we don't really know, do we?

0:50:570:50:59

The true history's lost in the mists of time.

0:50:590:51:02

-Indeed, absolutely.

-Yeah.

0:51:020:51:04

So we're looking at a piece that's a symbol really of a man's wealth,

0:51:040:51:09

his elegance and his refinement.

0:51:090:51:12

You think of the clothes they wore at court in the 16th century,

0:51:120:51:16

-well, this would just go a bomb with that.

-Yes.

0:51:160:51:19

Let's have a look at the whole thing. There we go.

0:51:190:51:23

The blade's just had its tip knocked off but shows lovely wear

0:51:230:51:27

and tear, commensurate with its age.

0:51:270:51:30

But it holds a little secret, doesn't it,

0:51:300:51:33

the little bi-knife, just pull that out.

0:51:330:51:36

And before the regular use of cutlery provided for you,

0:51:370:51:41

you would carry your own little bi-knife.

0:51:410:51:45

What a great thing to own, yeah.

0:51:450:51:47

Yeah, I'm very fortunate, yes.

0:51:470:51:49

Yeah, so the link to Charles I we're going to have to accept,

0:51:490:51:53

a little bit tenuous, but, you know, look at it.

0:51:530:51:55

It's a serious European work of art.

0:51:550:51:58

The lapidary work is absolutely fabulous and in the sunshine,

0:51:590:52:04

the colours of the natural mineral and the banding, is just gorgeous.

0:52:040:52:09

So what about value? Have you got it well-insured?

0:52:100:52:13

-Sounds a bit of a cliche question, but...

-It is insured, yes.

0:52:130:52:17

It is insured, right.

0:52:170:52:18

Well, I think an auction estimate would have to be, considering

0:52:180:52:23

its provenance, between £15,000 and £25,000.

0:52:230:52:27

Really? Yes.

0:52:270:52:29

It's very, very rare.

0:52:290:52:31

Perhaps I need to insure it more.

0:52:310:52:32

Thank you very much indeed.

0:52:360:52:38

It's a very interesting account. Thank you.

0:52:380:52:41

How wonderful that dagger came back to Lyme Park for our Roadshow.

0:52:410:52:46

Now shortly we'll be unveiling our dates for a chance for you to

0:52:460:52:49

meet our Roadshow experts next year.

0:52:490:52:51

And be warned, coming to a roadshow may seriously affect your wealth.

0:52:510:52:55

It certainly did for these owners who, after their moment in the

0:52:550:52:58

Roadshow spotlight this year, went on to sell their treasured items.

0:52:580:53:03

Take for example a visitor to our Bristol show at Ashton Court,

0:53:030:53:07

who brought along a lovely Delftware posset pot which our specialist

0:53:070:53:11

John Sandon valued at £4,500 in June this year.

0:53:110:53:15

There's a funny story with this pot as well.

0:53:150:53:17

In my family, I joke with them that when I die,

0:53:170:53:20

I'd like to be cremated and my ashes put in this.

0:53:200:53:23

But now, if this goes out and they hear the valuation, I'll

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probably get chucked in the garden and they'll probably cash it in.

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Instead, the owner had a more practical use for his pot

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and sold it for exactly John's valuation,

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investing the money in setting up his own business.

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Good luck to him.

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Bought on holiday in Cornwall for £1,000, 25 years ago,

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this Paul Feiler painting proved to be quite a souvenir.

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So that was a big purchase for a holiday purchase.

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Yeah, but we like paintings.

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There's a story behind it, in that my husband had to

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phone his office and find out if they'd had a good month or not.

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LAUGHTER

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So they'd had a good month and we decided to buy it.

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We were told by the owner she needed a new central heating system

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and it wasn't a pipe dream. She sold her picture

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and after the hammer fell at a whopping £25,000,

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she found she could afford a luxurious re-fit.

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This solid gold Martinique medal was

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awarded in 1809 during the Napoleonic Wars.

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It made a return to the Roadshow 20 years after it was first seen

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and valued, for £8,000.

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The medal itself has increased in value quite dramatically

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and today, if this medal came up on its own,

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it would probably sell for £35,000.

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On hearing the new valuation, the owner decided to sell at auction.

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It reached an amazing £38,000.

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English Heritage were so taken with this old railway signage,

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which once adorned the now defunct local railway station,

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they agreed to pay Paul's valuation, £300,

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and it's returned home to Bolsover Castle.

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And finally, remember this novelty 19th century money-collecting gadget,

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which had spent years in a box at the owner's home in Edinburgh?

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It's called the coasting bank and obviously that's what it is.

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Now, see if we can demonstrate it.

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It would have had a piece of string in the back, which you've got.

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-Oh, you did it.

-And there it went.

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Well, it went back to its roots in America

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and sold for a staggering quarter of a million dollars

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or around £170,000.

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Now, that's what I call a good investment.

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Whoa.

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So the Roadshow could be your road to riches,

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so make sure you come and see us in 2016.

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Getting us under way is a visit to the impressive Tewkesbury Abbey,

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truly a jewel of Gloucestershire.

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Audley End in Essex will make a fantastic

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backdrop for our Roadshow team.

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It's among the finest gardens in Europe,

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join us amidst the blooms at Arley Hall and Gardens in Cheshire.

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Two moated manors welcome us next year.

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The exquisite Baddesley Clinton in Warwickshire.

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And the lavishly restored Ightham Mote in Kent

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will take centre stage for our June visit.

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This property at Caversham in Reading is home to

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BBC Monitoring and its written archives.

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We'll hope to see you there in June.

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Up to the Lake District next

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for a visit to Holker Hall and Gardens in Cumbria.

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To East Yorkshire, where Burton Constable near Hull

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will welcome experts and visitors alike.

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For fans of industrial buildings,

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join us at the New Lanark World Heritage Site,

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magnificently set on the banks of the Clyde in Scotland.

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A Welsh wonder, Pembroke Castle is an exciting

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and dramatic setting for our visit in September.

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One of our most idyllic locations next year,

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with its views over the River Fall is Trelissick, near Truro, in Cornwall.

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And finally, to the University of London

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and the Art Deco splendour of Senate House.

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It promises to be a special show.

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If you'd like to send us advance information about your treasure,

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ahead of your visit, drop us a note, with photographs, to our website.

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So hopefully we'll see you next year.

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Who knows, perhaps in our tea tent, as we roll

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out our roadshows for 2016 and all the details are on the website.

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I hope you've enjoyed our special Christmas celebration.

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I'd like to thank the team here at Lyme Park for welcoming us back.

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And as for you, enjoy the rest of your Christmas,

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have a happy New Year and hopefully see you in 2016. Bye-bye.

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