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Bowood House, near Chippenham in Wiltshire,

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is just bursting with treasures.

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Enough to thrill every single one of our Antiques Roadshow experts.

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This pretty Robert Adam building has been home

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to the Marquises of Lansdowne for almost 300 years.

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In the 18th century, the first Marquis set up a laboratory here

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and supported two of the most groundbreaking scientists of the age.

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One went on to discover oxygen gas here in 1774.

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While the first Marquis was keen to encourage the sciences,

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the second Marquis was rather more adventurous.

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In a scene that could have come

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straight out of The Scarlet Pimpernel,

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he rescued a young boy and his mother

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from the clutches of the French Revolution.

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They were aristocrats and in real danger of being executed.

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And he secretly whisked them off to England.

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The boy's stepfather wasn't so lucky.

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He lost his head to Madame la Guillotine.

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The boy was Charles, the Comte de Flahaut.

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In a romantic turn of events,

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his daughter went on to marry the fourth Marquis of Lansdowne.

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Quite a surprise, considering Charles fought on the wrong side

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in the Napoleonic wars.

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He was Napoleon's aide-de-camp and served alongside him

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until the defeat at Waterloo.

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Years later, the Comte left the family some remarkable heirlooms.

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Rare Sevres porcelain

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and a portrait of Napoleon, given to the Comte by the man himself.

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One of the most unusual items surely has to be this -

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the bronze death mask of Napoleon.

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And it was taken from the original plaster of Paris cast

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made by Napoleon's doctor in 1821,

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just after his death on St Helena.

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They're very rare, these,

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and very valuable.

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I have to say, it's a very strange thing to be holding in one's hands.

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So, before our experts invade the house to look at all these treasures,

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let's catch up with them outside,

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as they meet our visitors at today's Antiques Roadshow.

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Well, there's a certain theme around here, which is car mascots.

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And somehow, you don't really look much like a car mascot yourself.

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Although, you'd obviously look gorgeous on the front of my car.

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Thank you very much.

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So what's the connection to you with these?

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Well, what it was, bit of a funny story.

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I was northbound on the A1, going up to Alnwick, Northumberland,

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queueing to pay for a pasty, got talking to a fellow traveller

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and he started mentioning that he had a small shop

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fairly local to here, where he was dealing with Lalique.

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We went along, had a look and the rest is history, really.

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Started buying one or two pieces and, like everything else,

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you think, "Well, we'll just have the one."

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And that becomes two and that becomes three...

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-What's it become now?

-I have eight pieces now altogether.

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-Eight pieces?

-Yeah.

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And what is it that you find compelling about them

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that's leading you to splash some serious cash here, I presume?

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I just liked the way they look. It's the car mascot,

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being a bit of a car buff myself in the past, as well.

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And it's just the way they're constructed.

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They're just amazing.

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I mean, what it would take to make something like that,

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I can only begin to imagine.

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Well, that is what you're talking about.

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And I think it's pretty clear to see, from everybody's viewpoint,

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that's a pretty stunning piece of glass.

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And the idea that this is a car mascot,

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you say, "Well, what the hell are you on about?"

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Well, what you did is that these were let

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into the brass radiator cap of your car.

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So, instead of the Spirit of Ecstasy on a Rolls-Royce, for instance,

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then you have that.

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And some of these had lights underneath them.

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-So if we look at yours, one of these is not a car mascot.

-No.

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This one here, with the square base, that's a figurine.

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But the others here are all car mascots.

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This is Le Coq Nain.

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This is the Perche.

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And that, believe it or not, is called "un elephant".

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Incredible. I'll translate that, because you're obviously struggling.

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We call it an elephant.

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So, look, you know, these are, what, late '20s,

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-I suppose is their approximate date.

-Yes, I think so.

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-Late '20s, early '30s.

-And they're kind of sought after. They are.

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But the value depends on a letter.

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And the letter we're talking about is the letter "R".

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And what's in a letter? Well, an awful lot.

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Because the "R" means they were made during Lalique's lifetime.

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And if the "R" is absent, they were made posthumously.

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And that's a huge impact on value.

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Like...ten times.

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So what have you got here? Let's have a look.

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They're all "R".

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They're all made during Rene's lifetime.

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So we can go on your purchases...

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-Well, you'd better tell us how much you paid for them, actually.

-I...

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-HE CLEARS HIS THROAT

-Throat's gone really dry now. Sorry about that!

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I think, in total, I suppose that would be 2,800-ish,

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-give or take, um...

-OK, well, we'll just do a gallop, won't we?

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We'll just go...800,

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1,000...

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..1,600 to 2,000.

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That's rare. Elephant's rare.

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That's 1,500.

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-Really?

-1,500.

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Basically, your 1,800 quid...

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..is magic, magic, magic...

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..4,000 to 6,000 quid.

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That'll do for me, sir.

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Start the car!

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-It's a silver honeypot.

-Yes.

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-We think it's by Philip Storr.

-Right.

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And we think it's about 1800.

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-Or something like that.

-Very good.

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And how did it come into your possession?

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It came to me about 30 years ago

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-from an aunt.

-Uh-huh.

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But it had been in the family for a long time.

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In fact, I think all its life.

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Well, I think the aunt must've liked you rather a lot.

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Because this is a pretty good thing.

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Well, I was quite polite to her.

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Well, let's have a look at the marks.

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What you say is pretty close.

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It's got a nice set of marks on the bottom.

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It's got the maker's mark "PS" for Paul Storr.

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And a date letter "D" for 1799.

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And it's what they call a honey skep or a honeypot.

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Paul Storr not only was the greatest maker of the 19th century,

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he ran the workshops for the greatest firm of retailers

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called Rundell, Bridge & Rundell before going off on his own.

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And they were the biggest firm at their time in the whole country

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-for retailing fabulous silver.

-Oh, really?

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So he's a top man. He's hugely collected,

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especially in America. They love Paul Storr.

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It's got a crest at the top. Is that a family crest?

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Yes. It is. It's on my mother's side of the family.

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Fantastic.

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Well, by an extraordinary stroke of luck,

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I bought the almost identical piece at an auction very recently.

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-Oh?

-I bought it for a client.

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Do you know what I paid for it?

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I'm hoping you're going to tell me.

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A little over £20,000.

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Wow.

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-I had no idea.

-So your insurance figure...

-I had no idea.

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..should be quite a lot more than that.

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Well, that's very, very interesting.

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Thank you very much indeed. I'm quite chuffed by that.

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Yeah.

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This is a very grand portrait.

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I'm guessing it comes from a very large house

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and looking at the boys here, with Devizes School on,

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-I presume it's a school.

-It is a school. Yes.

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-What do you do at the school?

-I'm headteacher at the school.

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Now, I notice on this picture, first of all, it's in very good

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original condition. Because it's never been cleaned.

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But being in original condition, I see there's some marks here.

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And there's a mark here. Do you know what this is?

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Oh, well, a student, he put a bit of wet paper on the painting.

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-And how did he put it on?

-Um, I think he must have shot it...

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Shot it? How did he shoot it?

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Er, through a pipe thing.

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Well, it's a pretty good shot, actually.

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He's got her right here.

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Now, what do you boys think of the picture?

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Well, she represents the Grey Lady

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and she haunts the school.

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Can I stop you there? Who's the Grey Lady?

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Her. She's the person in the painting.

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-And have you ever seen her?

-No.

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Not me. But loads of people have.

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-So it's a bit of a rumour that she comes around occasionally?

-Yeah.

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And do you know who this person is?

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Yeah, this is Maria Heathcote,

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who used to be the owner of the house that is now the school.

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And do you know who it's by?

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Vanderback?

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It's by John Vanderbank.

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And it is signed J Vanderbank, fecit 1725.

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Right.

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Now, John Vanderbank was a pupil of Sir Godfrey Kneller.

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Kneller was a very famous artist in the late 1600s, early 1700s.

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And he had a lot of pupil students working under him,

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so that's how he would have learnt his ability to paint.

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Also, with a name like Vanderbank, it's not English.

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And it would've come from Dutch descent over here.

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But he was recorded as working in London.

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When we look at this, we see that she's holding here a shell.

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Almost like an oyster shell. And do you know what that represents?

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No.

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Fertility. That's what it is.

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But it's very typical of the period, the early 1700s.

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It's classical,

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you've got the wonderful cherub here with the fountain.

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It's a very, very smart picture.

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When you're at school, do you see it as well as this

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or is it in a dark corner?

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-No, it's in reception.

-It is?

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-Yeah, and everyone can see it.

-And do you all respect her?

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Er, yeah.

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-Apart from this one!

-I want to know his name.

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But now, we have to put a value on this.

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I think it's fantastic.

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And I've seen quite a lot of John Vanderbank's work.

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And this is amongst the best I've seen.

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And I think that, if this came up at auction,

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it would make the minimum of £8,000-£12,000.

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Wow.

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Gosh.

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So I hope you will show it more respect as you walk past.

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We probably will!

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I'm looking at a rather interesting archive.

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It seems to relate to the Beatles in Melbourne in 1964.

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Now, what's your involvement with this collection?

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Well, I am Australian

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and my father was Lord Mayor of Melbourne in 1964,

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at a time when the town hall was a very sober place,

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normally for dignitaries from overseas.

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But my father was very taken with this young group of musicians,

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the Beatles, and decided he'd give them a reception.

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And as you can see from this invitation that he issued,

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it was to meet Mr John Lennon, Mr Paul McCartney,

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Mr George Harrison and Mr Ringo Starr.

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Well, everybody was full of enthusiasm.

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For the morning, I was given John Lennon to look after.

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And he was wearing a leather jacket.

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And I had never touched a man in a leather jacket before.

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So I had my arm through his for the morning,

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walking around, introducing him to everybody.

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My sister had Paul McCartney,

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because she'd been out with him the night before for a cup of coffee

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and he'd held her hand.

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And Paul said to her, "Tomorrow morning,

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"we've got to go and meet some old codger at the town hall."

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And my sister said, "Well, I'd like you to know that's my father."

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So it was a really extraordinary experience.

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And after it was over, we walked outside and saw the crowds.

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We were on the balcony - like the Queen is!

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And we saw hundreds of thousands of people lined up outside.

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So that's how it came about.

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That is the most remarkable story.

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Well, look, the first thing I have to say is,

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look, we've got all these photographs here. Which one is you?

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Oh...

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I have to say, there were hairpieces around in those days

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-and that's what that is.

-That is such a smart up-put, isn't it?

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So how old were you then? May I ask?

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I was 23 and I was given John

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because he was married and I was married.

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And the rest of my family weren't

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and neither were the rest of the Beatles.

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OK, so it was felt that the two marrieds could look after each other

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-and Paul was fair game for all the other sisters.

-Exactly!

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So this is what you said.

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-You all went out onto the town hall balcony. Oh, is that you there?

-Yes.

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That looks like you, yes.

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And I forgot to say, my father gave the Beatles...

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had for them upstairs, where we were playing the music,

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boomerangs and a didgeridoo to give them.

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And so, that's what that's all about.

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Well, now, this is the main event, of course.

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The signed invitation.

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Signed beautifully by all four Beatles very clearly.

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These are good things. They are good things here.

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They're even better, perhaps, in Australia.

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But there is certainly a worldwide interest in them.

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When we comes to value,

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we're certainly talking between £5,000 and £8,000.

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What's that in dollars?

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Dollars about two to the pound now, so that's about AU10,000-AU15,000.

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-Brilliant object.

-Well, thank you very much indeed.

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And thank you for having me on this show, all the way from Australia.

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It's great. It's been lovely to hear your experiences. Thanks so much.

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Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Lord and Lady Lansdowne, it's an absolute pleasure to be here today

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at your wonderful home. Thank you for having us.

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But it's even more of a pleasure to have an item out of your collection.

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And we have Napoleon's death mask.

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I actually have a version of this hanging on my own wall at home.

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And I suppose that's really why I'm going to be talking to you about it.

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But I know that a lot of family history is imbued in this item,

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so perhaps you can explain some of that to me.

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Well, as you know, Napoleon died in May 1821

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and my great-great-great-grandmother

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married Napoleon's ADC.

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Charles de Flahaut.

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Sorry, that's the aide-de-camp?

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-IN FRENCH ACCENTS:

-Aide-de-camp.

-Aide-de-camp!

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Thank you!

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ADC, aide-de-camp.

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And went on that dreadful campaign to Russia,

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-which was Napoleon's downfall.

-Yeah.

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So when Napoleon died... Actually, imagine the scene.

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He was surrounded by a lot of people

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and one thing that was traditionally done

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is that facial casts were taken - death masks.

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And all of that surrounding Napoleon at the time is very complicated,

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when it comes to us talking about

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the amount of death masks that were actually cast.

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Some people say that three originals were done

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and these were wax casts or plaster casts.

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Some people say four were done.

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But it's contentious.

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What we have here is a cast in bronze

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from one of those original casts.

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And in 1821, when he died in May, basically,

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one of those people was his doctor - Antommarchi.

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Or one of several physicians that apparently attended.

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And that's one of the signatures that we can see

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on the side of this bronze death mask here.

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We've also got foundry marks.

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It says "Fondu par L Richard et Quesnel a Paris."

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So we know who the founders are and everything. It's all documented.

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And also, we have this little cartouche,

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signifying that it is actually Napoleon.

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Now, my version at home on the wall is a plaster version.

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And in fact, actually, it looks slightly different to this.

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And that proves the point that the various versions

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that there are around do differ facially.

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I think the profile...

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And you look at, actually, some of the oil paintings of Napoleon,

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it's remarkably good.

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That nose... He's got a beaky nose, Napoleon.

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That is a Napoleonic nose.

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Let's talk about some value on it.

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They are very, very sought after.

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We can talk about one plaster cast,

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that sold the year before last, which is called the Boys cast.

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And Pastor Boys was also one of the people

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that was next to Napoleon's deathbed.

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And apparently, a cast was taken from the original

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soon after by Boys.

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So we know that it's very close to that original cast.

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Now, that cast sold the year before last for 170,000.

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What does that mean this one's worth? Well, of course...

0:17:410:17:44

-Well, we don't know.

-Absolutely.

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It's not quite that close to one of the original casts.

0:17:450:17:48

What I do know is that, when these do come up for sale,

0:17:480:17:52

which is very infrequently,

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they usually make around about £15,000 or £20,000 at auction.

0:17:530:17:58

But we have all that extra added heritage

0:17:580:18:03

and provenance that goes with this one.

0:18:030:18:05

How do you put a price on that? Very, very difficult.

0:18:050:18:08

One thing I do know is that it's going to be snugly secreted

0:18:080:18:12

back in its beautiful cabinet in your museum.

0:18:120:18:14

It's an amazing story.

0:18:140:18:16

And I have to say, it's made even more emotive

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by the fact that we're in the bi-centenary year

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of the Battle of Waterloo.

0:18:210:18:23

Thank you very much.

0:18:230:18:24

What a beautiful day.

0:18:240:18:26

And the sun is shining on the righteous.

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Because this is all about John Wesley,

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the great Methodist preacher.

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-It is indeed.

-Is there a connection with you?

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There is a connection with me.

0:18:340:18:36

The gentleman in the photograph was my father.

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And he was a Methodist minister, but he collected this pottery,

0:18:400:18:45

-some pictures, as well.

-Yes.

0:18:450:18:47

So who was John Wesley?

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John Wesley was the son of an Anglican vicar.

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Born and brought up in Lincolnshire, in Epworth,

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went to Oxford University and became a preacher.

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And in 1739, he had what he called his "heart-warming experience",

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when he really trusted in God.

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And from then on, he began preaching all over the country.

0:19:100:19:14

And Methodist Societies sprang up all around the countryside.

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He lived to a ripe old age - he lived to be 88 -

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and was still preaching a week before he died.

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Wesley had a great connection with Stoke-on-Trent,

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so many of the works are done at Stoke-on-Trent,

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-including these two busts.

-Yes.

0:19:340:19:36

This one is a beautiful bust, isn't it?

0:19:360:19:40

-It is. Obadiah. Yes.

-Obadiah Sherratt.

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He was a great Staffordshire potter.

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And the Wesley bust over there is one of the Wood family potters.

0:19:460:19:51

-It is, it's an Enoch Wood...

-Enoch Wood, yes.

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-..who had John Wesley sit for him in about 1780-81.

-Yes.

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-And these busts were produced in John Wesley's lifetime.

-Yes.

0:20:000:20:05

-And they are just so beautiful.

-They're beautifully made.

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And the colours on the face. You know, the painting.

0:20:090:20:11

Absolutely wonderful, yes.

0:20:110:20:12

-He must've been a famous person in his time.

-Yes, I think he was.

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He'd travelled the country.

0:20:150:20:17

-Travelled thousands of miles each year.

-Yes. By horseback.

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-On horseback.

-Because, in those days, no cars or bikes.

0:20:210:20:24

And usually sitting reading as he rode, you know?

0:20:240:20:26

-Or even writing sermons, I think.

-I know people to go on bikes reading.

0:20:260:20:31

-It's very dangerous.

-On horseback.

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-But to do it on a horse, it's not so bad.

-No.

0:20:330:20:35

-And this strange model here...

-Yes.

0:20:350:20:39

That is actually a caricature of John Wesley.

0:20:390:20:42

I've no idea how many were produced,

0:20:420:20:45

-but it was made out of the vertebrae of a horse.

-Vertebrae of a horse?

0:20:450:20:49

Good Lord. I've never seen one before.

0:20:490:20:51

He was a great, great, great man.

0:20:510:20:54

So, values...

0:20:540:20:55

Well, the Wood bust, it's probably going to be £1,000.

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And the Obadiah Sherratt bust, several times that.

0:21:000:21:04

-Really?

-Yes.

0:21:040:21:06

The other pieces, not so greatly valuable, but all very personal.

0:21:060:21:09

Together, the whole collection is going to be valued

0:21:090:21:12

at thousands of pounds.

0:21:120:21:14

Look after it. Guard it.

0:21:140:21:16

And pass it on to the next generation.

0:21:160:21:18

I hope I shall be able to, yes. Yes.

0:21:180:21:21

-Well, it's a great treasure in our house.

-Yes.

0:21:210:21:23

Thank you.

0:21:230:21:24

Well, I recognise this immediately, because it's my local church

0:21:240:21:28

and this is the original design

0:21:280:21:31

by CR Ashbee, one of the most important leaders

0:21:310:21:36

of the Arts and Crafts movement at the turn of the 20th century.

0:21:360:21:40

-And it's a design for an organ case.

-That's right. Yes.

0:21:400:21:44

The organ case was commissioned by the Harris family.

0:21:440:21:47

Of course, of the Harris meat products of this area.

0:21:470:21:53

But Ashbee, he went on in the 20th century

0:21:530:21:56

to develop this school of Arts and Crafts,

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designing jewellery,

0:22:000:22:02

he had a printing press - the Essex House Press -

0:22:020:22:05

and, obviously, in the Cotswolds, where they produced

0:22:050:22:09

all sorts of lovely pieces of furniture and things like that.

0:22:090:22:13

Where did you find this?

0:22:130:22:14

-It obviously looks as though it's been in the wars.

-It has.

0:22:140:22:17

Well, it was bought...

0:22:170:22:19

I'm the parish administrator for the parish of Calne and Blackland.

0:22:190:22:22

This is St Mary's church, actually.

0:22:220:22:24

And because the humidity levels in the church

0:22:240:22:27

were not doing the picture any good, it was brought over there.

0:22:270:22:30

So here is the early-20th-century design of the organ case

0:22:300:22:34

and this is what it's like in all its glory today -

0:22:340:22:38

beautifully restored, in absolutely immaculate condition.

0:22:380:22:42

It's an important piece.

0:22:420:22:43

I don't know of any other organ case or piece of art

0:22:430:22:48

that Ashbee did that is quite like this.

0:22:480:22:51

I can see a piece like that, it's £20,000-£25,000.

0:22:510:22:55

My word!

0:22:550:22:56

-Goodness me!

-It's a wonderful piece.

0:22:560:22:59

-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Gosh.

0:22:590:23:01

Oh...!

0:23:010:23:03

Speechless. That's rare for me!

0:23:030:23:04

-THEY LAUGH

-Thank you.

0:23:040:23:07

These Chinese jade carvings, I like them,

0:23:100:23:13

because they all have a very specific meaning.

0:23:130:23:16

This one here,

0:23:170:23:19

which is a small boy on the back of a large bottle gourd

0:23:190:23:23

represents having many sons.

0:23:230:23:25

But I particular like this one here, which is a monkey and a peach.

0:23:250:23:28

-Do you know much about this one?

-No. I don't.

0:23:280:23:31

Except, I believe it's a token for longevity.

0:23:310:23:35

You're absolutely right. And it's...

0:23:350:23:37

Actually, it goes back to a sort of 16th-century

0:23:370:23:40

Chinese mythological story about the Monkey King.

0:23:400:23:45

It was in The Journey To The West.

0:23:450:23:47

The Monkey King, who was called Sun Wukong,

0:23:470:23:50

he gatecrashed a party and he ate all the peaches of longevity

0:23:500:23:55

and ever since then, the monkey, together with the peach,

0:23:550:23:58

-in Chinese mythology, has been used to represent longevity.

-Lovely.

0:23:580:24:01

I think they're great things. They are made to be handled.

0:24:010:24:04

They are made by scholars. Where did you get these from?

0:24:040:24:08

We bought them in Singapore, when we were there in the 1970s.

0:24:080:24:11

We were always told they were sleeve pieces. What did that mean?

0:24:110:24:15

Well, that's one way of calling them, sleeve pieces.

0:24:150:24:18

They could also be called handling pieces,

0:24:180:24:20

because they were designed specifically to be picked up,

0:24:200:24:23

handled and turned over.

0:24:230:24:24

The idea of them being a sleeve piece,

0:24:240:24:26

if you are wearing a long Chinese robe,

0:24:260:24:28

you'd be able to store them turned up in your sleeve.

0:24:280:24:31

So they become a handling piece or a sleeve piece

0:24:310:24:34

and they are to be picked up, touched.

0:24:340:24:36

And so, how tactile they are is very important to them.

0:24:360:24:39

-How glorious.

-It is. It's a lovely idea.

0:24:390:24:42

These all date from the reign of the Emperor Chien Lung.

0:24:420:24:46

That's what we were told.

0:24:460:24:47

Do you remember how much you paid for them in Singapore?

0:24:470:24:51

These were all under 100 Singapore.

0:24:510:24:54

-Under 100 Singapore dollars?

-Yeah.

0:24:540:24:56

I don't know the exchange rate.

0:24:560:24:57

At that time, it was eight to the pound.

0:24:570:24:59

Nowadays, I don't know if you follow the market in Chinese jades,

0:24:590:25:03

but they really are quite sought after.

0:25:030:25:06

In auction today, you are probably looking at £5,000 here.

0:25:060:25:12

-Goodness.

-Maybe a little bit more here.

0:25:120:25:14

Maybe 5,000 to 8,000 here.

0:25:140:25:16

This one here...I don't actually know the iconography.

0:25:170:25:20

This is a mythical beast. It's a very curious animal.

0:25:200:25:23

But the Chinese particularly like this stone,

0:25:230:25:25

which has these brownish inclusions in it

0:25:250:25:27

and I think this one could easily top £10,000 at auction.

0:25:270:25:30

So I think you've got more than £20,000 here.

0:25:300:25:33

I think I'd better up the insurance.

0:25:330:25:35

Lovely to see them. But thank you for coming.

0:25:360:25:38

Thank you, sir. Gosh, that's a shock.

0:25:380:25:41

This week, our regular challenge to Spot The Impostor

0:25:550:25:58

has been set by Will Farmer.

0:25:580:26:00

Now, normally, of course, you'll find Will talking about ceramics.

0:26:000:26:03

But this time, he's brought along four vintage film posters.

0:26:030:26:07

Except one is a more modern reproduction.

0:26:070:26:10

The question is...

0:26:100:26:12

which is it?

0:26:120:26:14

If you're sitting at home wondering what you should be looking for,

0:26:140:26:17

Will has some clues for you.

0:26:170:26:18

This Lawrence Of Arabia poster has barely a crease,

0:26:200:26:23

so has it come straight off the presses in the 1960s

0:26:230:26:26

and been preserved in what we now call "rolled condition"?

0:26:260:26:29

Or has it come straight off a modern laser printer?

0:26:290:26:32

This classic Carry On poster has signs of wear and tear.

0:26:360:26:39

So is it an original that was folded up to post to the cinema

0:26:390:26:43

or a novelty reproduction that's been made to look old?

0:26:430:26:46

Is this gorgeous image by British illustrator Tom Chantrell

0:26:480:26:52

an original movie poster

0:26:520:26:53

or a much later copy made for the Marilyn Monroe market?

0:26:530:26:57

Was this iconic sci-fi poster pinned up in a cinema foyer in the 1950s

0:27:010:27:05

or is it just a copy

0:27:050:27:07

that's been stuck to the wall of a student house?

0:27:070:27:09

So, Will, are you a fan of these vintage posters, then?

0:27:120:27:15

Oh, I absolutely love them.

0:27:150:27:17

I mean, what we're looking at here are just four examples of,

0:27:170:27:20

really, the golden age of Hollywood.

0:27:200:27:22

You know, it's that cinematography, that films all over the world.

0:27:220:27:25

And these would have once sat in the foyers of the great movie houses

0:27:250:27:30

to promote the films that were coming up.

0:27:300:27:32

-The question for you is... one of them's not right.

-I know!

0:27:320:27:35

I mean, just looking at them...

0:27:350:27:36

I mean, Carry On Cleo is famous for,

0:27:360:27:39

-"Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!" Isn't it?

-Absolutely.

0:27:390:27:42

Lawrence Of Arabia I've seen.

0:27:420:27:43

And of course, what you see there is the lashings of eyeliner

0:27:430:27:47

that Peter O'Toole had on. Do you remember that?

0:27:470:27:49

And these two... I know War Of The Worlds.

0:27:490:27:52

I don't know that Marilyn Monroe movie Let's Make Love.

0:27:520:27:54

What we're looking at here, to start with, are all classed as UK quads.

0:27:540:27:59

But when you're looking at movie posters,

0:27:590:28:01

there are a couple of things

0:28:010:28:02

that really stand out for anybody entering into it.

0:28:020:28:05

Number one is the printing technique.

0:28:050:28:07

Original, genuine posters of this age should be done

0:28:070:28:11

through either a stone or offset lithographic process.

0:28:110:28:14

And when you look at the way it sits on the paper,

0:28:140:28:17

-it's very different to a modern digital image.

-OK.

0:28:170:28:20

On top of that, you're looking at the size of the poster.

0:28:200:28:24

Now, there are lots of websites out there

0:28:240:28:27

that will help you check that your size for each poster is right.

0:28:270:28:31

The paper they're printed on.

0:28:310:28:33

Now, the modern reproductions are painted on

0:28:330:28:36

this sort of slick, glossy paper that you can't fold,

0:28:360:28:39

you can't do anything with it.

0:28:390:28:42

Whereas the original posters, when they were issued,

0:28:420:28:44

were sent folded in envelopes to the theatres.

0:28:440:28:48

And on top of that, I think the big thing is, look at the poster.

0:28:480:28:51

Is it too good to be true?

0:28:510:28:53

And spot for things like Academy Award nominations,

0:28:530:28:56

which are what we call re-issues.

0:28:560:28:58

Because, of course, when a film came out, it was before the awards.

0:28:580:29:01

And then, often, a poster will then be reissued

0:29:010:29:04

saying how many awards it achieved.

0:29:040:29:06

OK, but, Will, everything you've said there therefore points to that.

0:29:060:29:09

Clearly, because it's not been folded,

0:29:090:29:12

it's got winner of Academy Awards.

0:29:120:29:15

But knowing you as I do, I'm just wondering,

0:29:150:29:18

because I know you very well, Will, if you're bowling me a googly.

0:29:180:29:22

I mean, this has got a massive fold through it.

0:29:220:29:25

This...has not, actually.

0:29:250:29:28

And that has.

0:29:300:29:31

Yeah, I can't tell the difference between the techniques.

0:29:330:29:36

I mean, they've all got this border on, except that one.

0:29:360:29:38

-Decision time.

-OK. I think you're trying to put me off the trail

0:29:400:29:43

by making that too obvious.

0:29:430:29:45

I'm going to feel a complete idiot if it is indeed that one.

0:29:450:29:47

So I'm going to say...

0:29:470:29:48

Except, that does look more recent.

0:29:500:29:52

OK, I'm going to go...

0:29:520:29:54

Otherwise, it's this one.

0:29:540:29:55

-I'm going to say that is the impostor.

-Final answer?

0:29:550:29:58

CROWD ALL MAKE SUGGESTIONS

0:29:580:30:01

Go with it. OK. It's not my decision, it's theirs.

0:30:010:30:04

We're going for that one.

0:30:040:30:05

So we're saying Lawrence Of Arabia, in rolled condition, no creases

0:30:050:30:08

is the impostor.

0:30:080:30:10

Yes, we are.

0:30:100:30:12

Oh, hang on...

0:30:120:30:14

As a consensus, we are.

0:30:140:30:16

Fakes and forgeries should be destroyed.

0:30:160:30:18

You would be destroying a poster worth £5,000.

0:30:180:30:21

EVERYONE GASPS

0:30:210:30:23

Why do I listen to you?!

0:30:230:30:25

I'm blaming them.

0:30:250:30:27

I knew, I knew...

0:30:280:30:29

Oh, I don't know why I believe a word you say. OK...

0:30:290:30:33

You were right on your second choice. It's War Of The Worlds.

0:30:330:30:37

Right. Don't give me that now!

0:30:370:30:39

This falls into the prime category...

0:30:390:30:41

if it's too good to be true.

0:30:410:30:43

Nobody has ever found a UK quad

0:30:430:30:47

for War Of The Worlds up for sale ever.

0:30:470:30:50

One has never been found.

0:30:500:30:52

I mean, the key thing is I wish the poster was real.

0:30:520:30:56

Because this poster, if it was real,

0:30:560:30:58

would be worth in excess of £100,000.

0:30:580:31:01

Well, if you have any vintage movie posters,

0:31:030:31:06

I hope you have better luck with them than I just have.

0:31:060:31:08

We'd love to see them at the Roadshow.

0:31:080:31:10

Will would love to see them. So do bring them along.

0:31:100:31:13

I'm going to call this a tale of two dishes.

0:31:150:31:18

Because, two dishes, they look

0:31:180:31:21

as if they're from different planets, don't they?

0:31:210:31:24

They are totally different.

0:31:240:31:26

-Can you tell me anything about them?

-Not a lot.

0:31:260:31:29

They've been in the family for a couple of generations, I suppose.

0:31:290:31:32

I remember them in my grandmother's house.

0:31:320:31:35

But I think they probably came from a great-uncle,

0:31:350:31:38

Great-Uncle Douglas, who travelled a lot.

0:31:380:31:41

This green thing here...

0:31:410:31:43

-By the way, I must admit first, I like this one.

-Yes.

0:31:430:31:46

That's why it's nearest to me.

0:31:460:31:49

But this green one is Chinese.

0:31:490:31:51

And it's really quite old.

0:31:520:31:55

-It's late-Yuan, early-Ming Dynasty.

-Wow.

0:31:550:31:58

And that will date it from about 1300 to 1400...

0:32:000:32:05

Good gracious!

0:32:050:32:06

..and make it 600 years old.

0:32:060:32:10

700 years old.

0:32:100:32:12

-Isn't that incredible?

-It is. And it survived.

-It survived.

0:32:120:32:15

But it's a real piece of Ming.

0:32:150:32:18

You know, the old joke about the Ming vase. You've got real Ming!

0:32:180:32:22

-But this is the one I like.

-Yes.

0:32:240:32:27

Have you noticed how it was made,

0:32:270:32:29

the technique that was used to decorate it?

0:32:290:32:31

Well, I see that it's raised and it slightly worries me

0:32:310:32:34

-that the little cherubs are caught in the web.

-Yes.

0:32:340:32:38

Well, it's raised because it's raised white clay

0:32:380:32:42

on the surface of the plate.

0:32:420:32:45

And because it's porcelain, and porcelain is translucent,

0:32:450:32:49

the thickness of the clay varies across the figures,

0:32:490:32:53

giving a different amount of shading.

0:32:530:32:55

And that technique, a technique of building up liquid slip,

0:32:550:32:59

-is called pate-sur-pate.

-Oh, yes.

0:32:590:33:02

-You've heard of that?

-I have.

0:33:020:33:03

And that was developed in France, at the Sevres factory

0:33:030:33:07

and brought to England by a man called Marc-Louis Solon,

0:33:070:33:12

who worked for Minton.

0:33:120:33:14

This plate isn't Minton.

0:33:140:33:16

It has a very indistinct mark on the back.

0:33:160:33:19

It took me some while to see what it was.

0:33:190:33:22

-But it's the mark of a factory called George Jones.

-Oh, yes?

0:33:220:33:25

George Jones were a great factory in Staffordshire

0:33:250:33:29

and the only artist at George Jones who could've created this

0:33:290:33:32

wonderful, humorous, silly scene

0:33:320:33:35

is a man called Frederick Schenck.

0:33:350:33:38

And Frederick Schenck was influenced by Solon,

0:33:380:33:41

influenced by the humour of this kind of decoration.

0:33:410:33:44

It dates from about 1880, 1885.

0:33:440:33:47

So here we have a dish from 1300, 1400.

0:33:470:33:51

And here we have a dish from 1880 to 1885.

0:33:530:33:58

And I suppose we need to talk about the value.

0:34:000:34:03

I suppose we must.

0:34:030:34:05

This is worth £1,500-£2,000.

0:34:060:34:09

This is worth £1,500 to £2,000.

0:34:110:34:14

Well, fancy that!

0:34:140:34:16

That's excellent. Thank you very much.

0:34:180:34:21

Right, here's an intriguing pair of pistols in a French fitted case.

0:34:230:34:27

-But they're not French.

-They're not?

0:34:280:34:30

No. They're Belgian.

0:34:300:34:32

Oh, gosh. I had no idea.

0:34:320:34:34

And family pistols?

0:34:340:34:36

Yes. Although, I'm not too sure,

0:34:360:34:39

because my father didn't tell me exactly where he got them from.

0:34:390:34:42

-Probably his father's.

-Right.

0:34:420:34:45

-So, mystery.

-Yes.

0:34:450:34:47

They are very interesting because they're dual-purpose.

0:34:470:34:51

You have the long barrel,

0:34:510:34:54

which you screw on,

0:34:540:34:56

with a hidden trigger. Watch...

0:34:560:34:58

Oh, right. Oh...

0:34:580:34:59

Percussion cap.

0:34:590:35:01

And we're good to go.

0:35:010:35:03

Now, that's quite a long barrel and you can target shoot with them.

0:35:030:35:07

However, they also, if we take this barrel off...

0:35:070:35:12

..and put this barrel on...

0:35:150:35:17

Exactly the same.

0:35:210:35:22

But now, it's short, handy and can fit into a pocket

0:35:220:35:27

to stop ne'er-do-wells, in case they're after your loose change.

0:35:270:35:31

They are very, very pretty.

0:35:330:35:36

Nicely engraved.

0:35:360:35:38

Brass and silver inlay. We say they're Belgian.

0:35:380:35:41

-We know that because...

-Yes, that tiny... That intrigued me.

0:35:410:35:44

That is "ELG".

0:35:440:35:47

That is the mark of the Liege Belgian Proof House.

0:35:470:35:49

About 1850.

0:35:490:35:51

-Right.

-Very interesting with the two sets of barrels.

0:35:510:35:55

It really is quite unusual.

0:35:550:35:57

I would think that's about £800 worth of pistols.

0:35:570:36:00

-Very nice they are, too.

-Very nice.

0:36:020:36:04

When I first saw this, I got very excited,

0:36:060:36:09

because I and my husband keep bees.

0:36:090:36:12

And it actually is a French skep,

0:36:120:36:15

which is used in France

0:36:150:36:18

to collect bee swarms.

0:36:180:36:19

It's also got another name and I think you probably know it.

0:36:190:36:23

-Etui.

-Etui, yes.

0:36:230:36:25

Which is French for keeper, or keeping sewing items.

0:36:250:36:30

So it is the most enchanting thing.

0:36:300:36:32

And here we have a complete set for sewing.

0:36:320:36:37

They're gilt metal.

0:36:370:36:39

A thimble.

0:36:390:36:41

This is very, very, very sharp.

0:36:410:36:44

And a wonderful little pair of scissors.

0:36:450:36:48

Again, incredibly beautifully done, possibly in Paris.

0:36:480:36:52

And you've had it for how long?

0:36:520:36:55

It belonged to my aunt

0:36:550:36:56

and I remember it as a child in a cupboard,

0:36:560:36:59

but never really asked her enough about it.

0:36:590:37:00

Or anything about it, which is rather a shame.

0:37:000:37:03

-Did you ever open it?

-No. Never opened it.

0:37:030:37:05

Oh, what a lovely surprise.

0:37:050:37:06

After she died and we were clearing out the house, we found this.

0:37:060:37:10

And so I was able to have it and opened it up

0:37:100:37:13

and found all that inside.

0:37:130:37:15

I can understand how exciting that was, because it was for me.

0:37:150:37:19

You know, you brought it to me and I thought,

0:37:190:37:21

"That is enchanting on its own."

0:37:210:37:24

And then, to open it up and find this is so unusual.

0:37:240:37:29

-How clever of the French to think of something like that.

-Yes.

0:37:290:37:32

And it's circa 1825.

0:37:320:37:35

-So, a lot older than your aunt.

-Yes, yes.

0:37:350:37:39

And I would put a value on it of £800-£1,200.

0:37:390:37:45

Right, right. Gosh, that's amazing.

0:37:450:37:47

Yes. Yeah, lovely.

0:37:470:37:49

Well, here we have The Exploration Of Kina Balu, North Borneo,

0:37:500:37:55

by John Whitehead.

0:37:550:37:56

This wonderful late-Victorian, lovely, decorated cover.

0:37:560:38:00

I'm just absolutely blown away by this particular item.

0:38:000:38:04

It's something that on a Roadshow anybody would want to do.

0:38:040:38:08

This is just the most fantastic thing.

0:38:080:38:11

John Whitehead, a very important plant hunter,

0:38:110:38:14

a bird hunter of the late-19th century.

0:38:140:38:17

-Indeed.

-And you have brought in his book, given to his sister,

0:38:170:38:23

-and all the original illustrations to this book.

-Right.

0:38:230:38:28

-Who is John Whitehead in relation to you?

-He was my great-uncle.

0:38:280:38:32

-And his sister was my grandmother.

-His sister was your grandmother?

0:38:320:38:36

And here is the presentation copy.

0:38:360:38:39

Here is the inscription...

0:38:390:38:40

"Lucy Boosey from John Whitehead, July, 1893."

0:38:410:38:47

Now, he was a great fan of Darwin, wasn't it?

0:38:470:38:50

And Alfred Wallace, of course.

0:38:500:38:52

Must've been people he had looked up to all his life.

0:38:530:38:56

Oh, indeed, yes.

0:38:560:38:58

The Origin Of Species came out in, what, 1859.

0:38:580:39:02

And he was born in, what, 1860?

0:39:020:39:05

And so he went out to Borneo and Southeast Asia

0:39:050:39:10

and he looked for animals and plants

0:39:100:39:13

and preserved them and brought them all back to England.

0:39:130:39:17

At the request of the Zoological Society.

0:39:170:39:20

At the request of the Zoological Society.

0:39:200:39:22

And here is a wonderful, wonderful view here

0:39:220:39:25

of Kinabalu from Gaia Island,

0:39:250:39:28

-one of his illustrations.

-Yes, indeed.

0:39:280:39:30

And you have got the original illustrations here.

0:39:300:39:32

In fact, I can hardly believe it, because you've got more than one.

0:39:320:39:36

These all appear in the book,

0:39:360:39:38

-but some of them have not been published at all.

-No, that's true.

0:39:380:39:42

I mean, there are just wonderful, wonderful pictures here.

0:39:420:39:45

Scenes of people and all this sort of thing.

0:39:450:39:48

I'll just turn this around.

0:39:480:39:50

I can hardly bear to show just a bare few items here.

0:39:500:39:54

There are just so many of them that are just absolutely so good.

0:39:540:39:58

-So, you've got everything here from this expedition?

-Yes.

0:39:580:40:01

There are some very humorous ones coming.

0:40:010:40:03

Yes.

0:40:030:40:05

-Well, I think that one is quite humorous there.

-Yes, it is.

0:40:050:40:09

But, you know, all these lovely birds...

0:40:090:40:11

Presumably, he collected them all.

0:40:110:40:13

-Well, they were all because they were suitable specimens.

-Yes.

0:40:130:40:17

I've turned over here, because we've got this wonderful picture.

0:40:170:40:20

Look at that. Now, if that isn't humorous, I don't know what isn't.

0:40:200:40:23

"A black hornbill, young," it says.

0:40:230:40:26

"Young."

0:40:260:40:28

From North Borneo. I think that's absolutely tremendous.

0:40:280:40:30

And this lovely, lovely picture here.

0:40:300:40:33

This is of Kinabalu, isn't it?

0:40:330:40:35

Yes, it is. Yes.

0:40:350:40:37

The famous peak of Mount Kinabalu.

0:40:370:40:41

And he was, of course, a naturalist.

0:40:410:40:43

And so he would have seen this wonderful sacred mountain

0:40:430:40:46

-for what it was.

-Indeed, yeah.

0:40:460:40:48

But the colouring is so beautiful.

0:40:480:40:50

And the colouring is so good

0:40:500:40:52

because it's been kept in this album, of course.

0:40:520:40:54

It hasn't been out in the bright sunlight.

0:40:540:40:57

One thing is you can see why the place is sacred

0:40:570:41:01

-to the people who live there.

-Absolutely.

0:41:010:41:03

It's a wonderful-looking mountain, isn't it?

0:41:030:41:06

So, this album...

0:41:060:41:07

-You've got another two or three albums. I've got to value them.

-Yes.

0:41:070:41:11

I find it incredibly difficult, actually.

0:41:110:41:14

But there are pages and pages and pages of watercolours.

0:41:140:41:17

You must stop when you feel right.

0:41:170:41:19

I mean, when I get up to a reasonable height, yes.

0:41:190:41:22

Well, I'm going to value this collection at...

0:41:220:41:24

..£35,000.

0:41:260:41:27

Gosh!

0:41:270:41:29

Is that enough?

0:41:300:41:32

I'm...

0:41:320:41:33

No! Nothing's enough!

0:41:330:41:36

It's lovely to share them.

0:41:360:41:38

Well, you've shared them with me and I'm too excited.

0:41:380:41:41

I've got too many pages that I want to show and not enough time.

0:41:410:41:45

But thank you so much. It's been such a pleasure for me.

0:41:450:41:47

I found this at Roundway Hill, summer last year.

0:41:540:41:57

It's a Civil War site.

0:41:570:41:59

We were just having a look around with the children.

0:41:590:42:02

And this was just sticking out of the earth.

0:42:020:42:04

So this watercolour is signed JMW Turner.

0:42:040:42:07

And on the back of this we've got "assumed to be Constable".

0:42:070:42:12

Where did they come from?

0:42:120:42:13

Well, some years ago I was at an auction

0:42:130:42:16

and there was a large box of about a dozen old pictures.

0:42:160:42:22

It's not Civil War, actually.

0:42:220:42:24

-And I'm pleased to say that I think it's Viking.

-Lovely.

0:42:240:42:28

So I think this thing goes back well over 1,000 years, potentially.

0:42:280:42:32

Fantastic.

0:42:320:42:33

Did you pay much for them?

0:42:330:42:35

-The whole thing was about £40, I think.

-Oh, well, nothing, really.

0:42:350:42:40

So the sad news is,

0:42:400:42:41

we do see lots of pictures with Turner and Constable on.

0:42:410:42:44

This one, this lovely atmospheric watercolour,

0:42:440:42:46

it's not by Turner, unfortunately.

0:42:460:42:49

And he's not by Constable, either.

0:42:490:42:52

Now, it's silver or base metal.

0:42:520:42:55

Such things, you really have to declare them, of course,

0:42:550:42:59

because of their age.

0:42:590:43:00

-And you have to go through that process.

-I did tell my wife.

0:43:000:43:04

Right.

0:43:040:43:05

-She's not the coroner, though.

-No.

0:43:050:43:08

But certainly this watercolour, it's in the style of another artist

0:43:080:43:11

called Edmund Morison Wimperis.

0:43:110:43:13

It's probably worth £150-£200.

0:43:130:43:17

And the picture not by Constable,

0:43:170:43:19

perhaps in the style of Reynolds, is worth about £50-£100.

0:43:190:43:22

You've done pretty well, anyway.

0:43:220:43:24

But they're not the two great artists.

0:43:240:43:26

Being silver or pewter, we would need to test it.

0:43:260:43:29

Still looking at probably

0:43:290:43:31

something in the region of £400 or £500 for it.

0:43:310:43:33

-Fantastic.

-So that is a really special find.

0:43:330:43:35

-Sticking out of the ground?

-Yes.

0:43:350:43:38

It was meant to be, wasn't it?

0:43:380:43:39

-It was, yeah.

-There it is. Thank you.

0:43:390:43:42

Wow, this one really is all singing and all dancing.

0:43:460:43:50

It's the craziest stick I've ever seen.

0:43:500:43:53

Yes, it is a bit unusual. That's why I brought it up.

0:43:530:43:56

I've been trying to find out, you know, where it's from.

0:43:560:43:59

-It belonged to my mother.

-It belonged your mother?

0:43:590:44:01

She bought it in an auction in the 1950s

0:44:010:44:05

for a couple of pounds, I think.

0:44:050:44:07

-And it was in her wardrobe for many years.

-Really?

0:44:070:44:11

Languishing there.

0:44:110:44:12

Yes. At the auction, somebody came up towards the end,

0:44:120:44:15

a notable person, and said, "If I'd come to the auction a bit earlier,

0:44:150:44:19

"you wouldn't have had that, my girl."

0:44:190:44:21

If I'd have been at the auction, nobody would have had it!

0:44:210:44:24

Because I just love it.

0:44:240:44:26

Well, it's got everything going on all at once.

0:44:260:44:29

And, obviously, he's used the shape of the branch to depict this...

0:44:290:44:35

-At first, I thought it was a swan. But I think it's a goose.

-Right.

0:44:350:44:38

With diminutive little, tiny webbed feet

0:44:380:44:40

that could never carry it through the water.

0:44:400:44:43

It's got a stag's head here, eating some foliage.

0:44:430:44:47

It's got two snakes, winding down it. Both with glass eyes.

0:44:470:44:52

These little red beads, by the way, are called white hearts.

0:44:520:44:56

-These beads are from Italy.

-Right.

0:44:560:44:59

They're Venetian.

0:44:590:45:01

Then down here, you've got someone on horseback...

0:45:010:45:05

..which tells me where it's from.

0:45:060:45:09

You've got pugilists down here.

0:45:090:45:12

Two sparring and two waiting at the back.

0:45:120:45:15

You've got birds in flight being frightened by a dog.

0:45:160:45:19

It's just all going on.

0:45:190:45:21

You've got a cockerel. Now, where do you think it's from?

0:45:210:45:24

My mother seemed to think it was from India.

0:45:240:45:26

She thought, you know, it was from the British Raj in India.

0:45:260:45:29

and she thought it was perhaps a sergeant major's stick.

0:45:290:45:32

-No, nothing like that.

-No?

0:45:320:45:34

-Not from that part. It's not that far east.

-Right.

0:45:340:45:37

This is St George and the dragon. He's saint of where?

0:45:370:45:40

-England.

-And Greece.

0:45:400:45:42

And you've got here, as well,

0:45:420:45:45

to back up my point about it being Greek,

0:45:450:45:48

a Greek soldier. You know, the little pleated skirts?

0:45:480:45:51

I've seen them parading around the palaces and so on there.

0:45:510:45:55

So it's definitely Greek.

0:45:550:45:57

And it's 19th century. And it's fantastic.

0:45:570:45:59

The depth of carving is unbelievable.

0:45:590:46:01

And things like this have a value, certainly to me,

0:46:010:46:04

and collectors like me.

0:46:040:46:05

And I think one as good as this would make £1,500-£2,000.

0:46:050:46:12

Oh, gosh.

0:46:120:46:13

Right, OK.

0:46:130:46:15

I thought it might be a couple of hundred, but nothing like that, no.

0:46:150:46:18

The market for this has really risen in the last few years

0:46:180:46:22

and people really love folk art walking sticks.

0:46:220:46:25

-And this is really as good as it gets.

-Right.

0:46:250:46:28

Well, thank you very much. I brought it all the way from Wales

0:46:280:46:31

-to try and find out what it was.

-Well, there's your answer.

0:46:310:46:35

-I've worked it out.

-I'm very impressed.

0:46:350:46:38

Thank you very much.

0:46:380:46:40

Thank you. Thank you very much. I really want you to give this to me.

0:46:400:46:44

LAUGHTER

0:46:440:46:46

This little box is just so intriguing.

0:46:480:46:51

It's gem-like, jewel-like,

0:46:510:46:53

the way it just sits here on the table.

0:46:530:46:55

-How did it come into your life?

-It's my grandmother's.

0:46:550:46:58

She was Russian. She was Baroness Kozlovska.

0:46:580:47:02

And she went through two Russian revolutions

0:47:020:47:04

and lost everything twice.

0:47:040:47:06

And then fled to Vienna, which is where my grandfather had parents.

0:47:060:47:10

And he bought that for her, I think,

0:47:100:47:13

partly as recompense for having lost everything in Russia.

0:47:130:47:16

And so they bought that in Vienna.

0:47:160:47:18

And it's been in the family since then.

0:47:180:47:21

So, with such, you know, upheaval in their lives,

0:47:210:47:23

it makes you wonder how on earth did they manage to hold on to objects?

0:47:230:47:27

-Anything, even like this?

-Horse and cart.

0:47:270:47:29

It was literally sort of coming out from,

0:47:290:47:32

whether it's from Russia to Vienna or from Vienna to Danzig

0:47:320:47:34

or Danzig to Rome, essentially what came in a suitcase

0:47:340:47:37

and what you could fit on a cart and that was it.

0:47:370:47:39

And it was basically small things.

0:47:390:47:41

So we've got some clocks, small pictures, everything like that.

0:47:410:47:43

The only big thing we have left is a desk. But that's it.

0:47:430:47:47

The rest of it is just little trinkets like this, you know?

0:47:470:47:50

Well, you have an incredible background with your family.

0:47:500:47:53

Incredible travels. Incredible stories.

0:47:530:47:56

And also that sense of money and wealth.

0:47:560:47:59

And that would fit in,

0:47:590:48:01

because this little box is as well travelled as your grandparents were.

0:48:010:48:05

This little box will have actually travelled all the way from New York.

0:48:050:48:09

-Right.

-And there's a little clue for that.

0:48:090:48:12

Because, as exquisite as it is on the top,

0:48:120:48:15

it actually belies what's underneath,

0:48:150:48:19

which is just a very simple

0:48:190:48:21

little three-letter monogram - "LCT".

0:48:210:48:25

Which, of course, is Louis Comfort Tiffany.

0:48:250:48:29

And when we say that name,

0:48:290:48:31

it just conjures up the most wonderful creator.

0:48:310:48:35

I mean, one of America's greatest leading lights

0:48:350:48:39

in the field of applied arts.

0:48:390:48:41

Of course, he's known predominantly for his glasswork.

0:48:410:48:44

Everyone knows the stunning stained-glass windows.

0:48:440:48:48

And his key years, really, are from the 1870s to the 1920s,

0:48:480:48:52

when he was regarded so highly by everybody in America.

0:48:520:48:57

They knew he was one of their gems.

0:48:570:49:00

In around 1899, he actually moved away from the glass

0:49:000:49:04

and started to develop a passion for working in enamel.

0:49:040:49:08

And that's what this is.

0:49:080:49:09

This is enamelwork onto a metal ground.

0:49:090:49:12

But you know what? This man was a genius.

0:49:130:49:15

He understood applied art.

0:49:150:49:17

He understood the beauty of an object.

0:49:170:49:19

And no matter whether it was a lamp

0:49:190:49:21

that would stand this high on the table

0:49:210:49:23

or this exquisite little pillbox,

0:49:230:49:26

it was done with the most refined finesse

0:49:260:49:28

that designer could come up with.

0:49:280:49:30

And, of course, it made its way, where else,

0:49:300:49:33

-into the hands of a Russian baroness.

-Yes, it did.

0:49:330:49:36

It seems appropriate, really.

0:49:360:49:37

Well, stylish and elegant is as stylish and elegant does.

0:49:370:49:43

And when we look at this, we have to think about the money side of it.

0:49:430:49:48

Well, today, if you had to go out and replace it...

0:49:480:49:50

-..you'd need £3,000.

-Wow!

0:49:520:49:53

That's brilliant.

0:49:550:49:56

-Well, I hope that your grandmother is looking down...

-I'm sure she is.

0:49:560:49:59

..ever stylish and now knows...

0:49:590:50:01

I should have brought a photograph, shouldn't I?

0:50:010:50:03

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you very much.

0:50:030:50:06

Beautiful surprise.

0:50:060:50:07

This is a great tin-plate car

0:50:070:50:10

and on the front of the box here we see Captain Malcolm Campbell.

0:50:100:50:14

Now, what do you know about Malcolm Campbell?

0:50:140:50:17

Well, not that much, really.

0:50:170:50:20

I know he did the land speed record, but that's about all, really.

0:50:200:50:24

Well, I think, you know, most people think about Bluebird

0:50:240:50:27

and they think about the land speed record

0:50:270:50:29

and they think about his son Donald and his water speed record.

0:50:290:50:31

But it was this extraordinary family of sort of speed merchants.

0:50:310:50:35

And Malcolm Campbell, he had this extraordinary car, Bluebird,

0:50:350:50:39

which he christened Bluebird, after he saw a play in the West End

0:50:390:50:43

and he thought, "Oh, that's a good name for a car." So, there it was.

0:50:430:50:46

And he went through all kinds of records,

0:50:460:50:51

a lot of them in the UK, in Wales.

0:50:510:50:54

And then, to really hit the high point, he went over to America.

0:50:540:51:00

And that's where this extraordinary record was made of the 245mph.

0:51:000:51:07

And we know the date of that.

0:51:080:51:10

It was in Daytona and it was in 1931.

0:51:100:51:14

Another interesting thing happened in that time,

0:51:140:51:16

is that when he came back from Daytona, he was knighted.

0:51:160:51:20

But he's called Captain here.

0:51:200:51:23

So it's in that tiny window, I think.

0:51:230:51:26

I think this dates really precisely to 1931,

0:51:260:51:29

between the time that he got the record

0:51:290:51:31

and the time that he was knighted. A great thing.

0:51:310:51:34

It's made by a company called Guntermann of Nuremberg.

0:51:340:51:36

So, why did you buy it?

0:51:360:51:38

I didn't.

0:51:380:51:40

Oh!

0:51:400:51:41

I didn't buy it.

0:51:410:51:43

It actually belongs to my partner and it was his father's

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and his father was given it as a birthday present

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when he was about 10 or 11.

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-When was he born?

-He was born in 1920.

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Yes!

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It works! It works!

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And it's been a treasured item in the family all that time.

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Great.

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In my mind, when I look at an object on the Roadshow,

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I have a series of boxes that I like to tick.

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And do you know what? This ticks all those boxes.

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-That's fabulous.

-And it also ticks the value box,

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because it would fetch at auction between £1,000 and £1,500.

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Oh, wow...!

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Crikey!

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That's amazing.

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You do surprise me.

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Yeah, that's wonderful.

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Say it again!

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Well, what a fantastic crowd we've got here today.

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And they're expecting to see something truly exciting.

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And, wow, you have brought something truly exciting.

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This all relates to the most famous ocean liner in the world -

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the Titanic -

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and its sad demise in 1912, just over 100 years ago.

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It all relates to, I believe, a relation of yours. Who was he?

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-Yes, he was my great-uncle.

-Your great-uncle?

-Yes. Yes.

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-And his name was?

-Herbert John Pitman.

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He was an officer or...?

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Yes, he was the Third Officer on the Titanic.

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And when he died in 1961, it was left to my father.

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And when he died in 1997, it was passed on to my brother and myself.

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Now, obviously, he was one of the survivors.

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But how did that come about?

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He was put in charge of one of the lifeboats

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and they lowered it and that's all I know about it.

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Fantastic. Well, a photograph.

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And these are the surviving officers from the Titanic.

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And going from left to right, it's, I think,

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Harold Lowe, Charles Lightoller

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Joseph Boxhall

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and then there's Herbert Pitman just seated in the centre there.

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One of the more important things is his certificate of discharge.

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There's his name.

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Now, this was hugely important

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to anybody who had a career on ocean liners,

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because it listed every single vessel you ever served on

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and if you had good conduct or bad.

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So it's basically like a school report.

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And if we just open it to the relevant date...

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You can see that he was on the Oceanic

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and then, in April 1912, he joined the Titanic.

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Now, this was all in manuscript.

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-Presumably, the original went down with the ship?

-It did. It did. Yes.

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So when he then rejoined the Oceanic,

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it then gets stamped

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-and he gets the various comments against it.

-That's right.

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-And he had a long career?

-Yes. He retired in 1947.

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He sailed straight through all that time.

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-How amazing.

-It is. It is.

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-And did you ever meet him?

-I did. Yes.

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He used to come and stay and have a holiday with us.

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My father used to take him out.

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He enjoyed cricket and they used to go and watch cricket.

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-And did he ever talk about his experiences?

-No, he didn't.

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He didn't talk to me or my father. He didn't like to talk about it.

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-Understandably. It must have been quite traumatic.

-I would say.

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Although he didn't talk to you about it,

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-he actually wrote it in here.

-He did.

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I'm just going to read an extract,

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which I think is particularly poignant.

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At this stage, it's 2.20am in the morning.

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He's been lowered from davits in the lifeboat, a full lifeboat,

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and this is his comment...

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"At 2.20am, 15th of April 1912, (by my watch),

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"all lights on board disappeared

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"and in a few moments, the vessel's stern was in the air.

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"The next moment, she was gone.

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"Within the next ten minutes or so,

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"it was truly heartbreaking to hear the cries

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"coming from the hundreds of drowning people

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"and we could do nothing about it as my boat was full."

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I mean, how awful.

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And he couldn't do anything,

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-because it would have endangered the people on board.

-Yes.

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Very poignant.

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So, we have to think about values.

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The photograph has been published before.

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-You'll find it in several books on Titanic.

-Oh, OK.

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I have seen it before.

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-And that's only because I could then identify who they were.

-Right. OK.

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But even so, it's contemporary. Presumably done...

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Obviously, they're not in their uniforms,

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but probably not long after the event. Maybe in the 1920s.

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Right. OK.

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So that's going to be worth maybe sort of £1,000-£1,500.

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Wow! Really?

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The manuscript...£2,000-£3,000.

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Wow.

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However, the discharge papers...

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They weren't on board, but it's the whole of his life and his career.

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And I would think, certainly at auction,

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you'd be talking between £6,000 and £10,000.

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Wow!

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Amazing.

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Wow!

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But, I mean, it's family.

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It is, yes. Yes.

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We shall be keeping it for a while.

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And how proud to have that man as part of your history.

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And I'm sure it'll remain in your family for a long time to come.

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-I think so.

-But thank you so much.

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-Were you excited by that?

-ALL: Yes!

0:57:090:57:11

-I was. Thank you so much.

-OK.

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Well, how fascinating.

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And how moving to hear that account from the Titanic.

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It's so rare to hear from someone

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who was there to witness it first-hand.

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And other than the family,

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you know, you, we are the only people to have heard it.

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And the family have no intention of publishing it,

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so we may be the last to hear it, as well.

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Just remarkable.

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From Bowood House and the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye.

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