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This week the Antiques Roadshow returns to Wiltshire, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
but there's something big missing. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Any ideas? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
It's the house itself. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
The original Bowood House near Chippenham was razed to the ground | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
in the 1950s, and what you see now, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
gorgeous though it is, is simply a type of conservatory, an orangery. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
In its heyday, this Wiltshire estate, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
home to the Marquises of Lansdowne, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
would have employed dozens of servants. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
With 90 rooms, Bowood House was large enough to rival any in the country. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
The upstairs-downstairs lifestyle of much of the aristocracy | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
became unsustainable during the early part of the 20th century. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Death duties and the loss of many heirs | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
and the men who worked on the estates during the two World Wars, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
meant that life had changed. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
The great houses became white elephants in danger of extinction. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
When the bulldozers pulled up at Bowood in 1955 | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
to demolish the main house, it was the end of an era. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
The family had already been living in | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
what was known as the "little house" for many years, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
as the main house became dilapidated, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
and, wisely, they saved as many treasures as possible. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
These days, while the Marquis of Lansdowne still lives at Bowood, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
the majority of the house is dedicated to a museum and gallery. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
And the family's precious art collection has been shared with visitors | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
since the house opened its doors to the public in the mid 1970s. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
For a small house, Bowood has a big reputation. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
In fact when our experts heard we were coming here, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
there was a real buzz of excitement. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
There's something to please everyone in the collection. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
Fine diamond jewellery, Indian antiques, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
museum-quality porcelain, even Queen Victoria's wedding chair. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
It sounds like the perfect fantasy Roadshow. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
With finds like those vying for our expert attention, let's hope | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
today's visitors to the Antiques Roadshow come up with the goods. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:40 | |
You brought in this tiny little box and...are many, many questions. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Now, hopefully on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
we can answer most questions, but I think with this one, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
I'm going to be at a bit of a loss. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
But tell me its history to begin with. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
OK. Well, I brought this in on behalf of my father. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
He bought it with my late mother, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
it was one of the first things they bought when they were married | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
and he bought it from Petticoat Lane in London for about £20 or £30, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
which was quite a lot of money for him then. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
And they just found it really enchanting | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
because there's a code on one of the sides, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
a sort of numerical code that he's never been able to crack. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
And we just wondered really what the story was about it. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
Good. OK, well, let's get some clues. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
It's got a name on the top, which I read as J Jones. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:29 | |
Now, that was the person who probably gave it. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Because every time you took it out and used it | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
you would remember that particular person. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
If you open the lid, and there's a little compartment in there. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
Could be for snuff it's quite airtight, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
could be for something else. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
But there's another clue if you open up the back, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
there's another similar compartment | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
with a glass panel on it and just a trace of silvering. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
So I think that's a mirror. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
So what would you need a mirror for? | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
Something cosmetic? | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Spot on! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
So it could be for rouge, or for patches. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
OK. In the 18th century, patches were used to cover up pock marks, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:11 | |
if you had a blemish on your face, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
or they were used in order to signify if you were married or not. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
So if you had a patch on the left cheek or the right cheek | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
meant you were either engaged or married. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
If it was beside your eye it's meant you were passionate. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
And if it was in your forehead, it means you were quite serious. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
So it was a code, you talk about codes, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
it was a code to actually signify socially where you stood | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
without actually having to ask somebody or chat them up, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
you immediately knew if they were married or not. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
So, fascinating thing. What I really like, though, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
is the motto that goes round the outside. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
Yes, it says, something like, "The ring is round and hath no end, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
"so unto my love, now my friend," | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
or the other way round, but something along those lines. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
So I think that answers many of the questions. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
We also know the date, because it's here on the top - 1785. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
And then it's got a chain of numbers. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Now that's the enigma. What is that? | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Maybe it's his mobile phone number. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
CHUCKLES | 0:05:11 | 0:05:12 | |
So that's a question I cannot answer. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
What is it? A patch box, but also a love token. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
So how apt that it was a present | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
-from your father to your late mother. -Yes. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
How enchanting. Lots of sentimental value. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
Commercially, probably £800 to £1,200 today. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
Gosh, that's a shock. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
I'm sure my dad will be pleased, but it really is | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
the sort of, I think the sentimental value more than anything. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Brilliant. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
We have the archetypal piece of local interest here. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Devizes Comprehensive, Wiltshire. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
And this caption to this cartoon reads, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
"Miss Hoskins, you know we're not allowed | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
"to use the cane in the school!" | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
And here is Miss Hoskins, nearly naked with a cane | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
and there's a poor... What is it, a lion? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
Yes. In 1980, April 1980, when I was a student at Devizes School, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:07 | |
I am a current member of staff at Devizes School also... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Right. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:11 | |
..two lions escaped from the circus. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
From the circus, of course, in Devizes, there's that big green. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-The green, next door to school. -Yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
And the obvious place for lions to wander | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
when they've escaped is a school, and they came into school | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
during a lunch break and obviously caused havoc. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-To say the least! -Yes, and managed to find their way into two classrooms | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
where students were eating their lunch | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
and eventually were rounded up by members of staff, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
shut into classrooms, the circus staff came and rescued them. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
And who owned the circus? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:47 | |
It was Sally Chipperfield's circus. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I think there's a little piece on there, there's a little poster. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Oh Sally Chipperfield's Circus, school visit. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Yeah. And in those days... Yeah, school visit, yeah! | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
-I love it, I love it. -It was, yeah! | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
In those days they still had wild animals in the circus. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-Well, it's by JAK, of course, the great cartoonist... -Yes. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
-..of the Evening Standard. -Right. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
Raymond Jackson was his name and he... Oh, he was, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
he was doing these for about 30-odd years. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
And it's almost, it's rather like, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-Giles-like, do you remember Giles... -Yes. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
-..who did all those wonderful cartoons of schools? -Yep. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
-Are the teachers something like this today, do you think? -Well... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
-The sort of... -Similar! | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Terribly inelegant, isn't it? I think it's absolutely wonderful. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
And so, the lions, they didn't eat any of the children? | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
No, the only casualty, apparently, was a cheese and pickle sandwich. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Oh, I think it's a wonderful story | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
and this sits in pride of place in the school. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Yes, in the school reception area. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
-And you're going to ask me to value it, aren't you? -Yes. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Well, JAK cartoons, he's one of the greats in the 20th century. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
He was an emotional man. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
One of his signatures, actually, is three fingers. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
-Right. -Known as three-fingered JAK. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
-If you notice, everybody's got three fingers. -Oh, yes, yes. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
They've only got three fingers. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-Anyway, all his cartoons, three fingers. -Yeah. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
So, I'm going to value this somewhere between £300 and £500. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
-Wow. -Lock it up. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
Yes. We'll nail it to the wall. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-It's a great piece. -It's lovely, yeah. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you ever so much. Thank you. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
Well, it's the original box of a Christmas present to my grandmother | 0:08:17 | 0:08:25 | |
from her prospective husband, containing a Royal Worcester basket. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:30 | |
Oh, how fantastic. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
For Christmas 1914. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
And look at this, "Porcelain, with great care, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
"from the Royal Worcester Porcelain Company Ltd, Worcester. Fragile." | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
Obviously the address there. This is so lovely. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
December the 21st. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-Oh, I love this. I mean... -'14. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
..don't get me wrong, I would love to know the contents of this box, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
but I would be depriving the Sandons of that moment. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Well, I think that they are going to be very excited to see this later. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
-Oh, good. -A really nice thing and a really lovely survivor, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-and later, we'll see what's in there as well. -Good. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-Thank you ever so much. -Thank you. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
A pair of goats pulling a chariot. How long have you known them? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
I've known them most of my life. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
They were in my grandmother's house when I first went there | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
when I was about aged ten. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
And they were on top of a desk in the drawing room. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
And my grandmother died and my mother put them | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
on the top of the desk in her drawing room. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
And my mother died | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
and I've got them on the top of a desk in my drawing room. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
So it's... But I know very little about them, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
apart from fact that they belonged to my grandmother. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
What kind of woman was your grandmother? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
She was very Victorian, very austere, very straight | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and, sadly, I never knew my grandfather, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
but she was not the person to be argued with. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
OK. And so do you feel these reflect her as a person? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
Not really, because they're known in the family | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
as the loony goats, and my grandmother wasn't a loony goat, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
I'm afraid, no way. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Have you ever looked at how they're made? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Well, they seem a bit, sort of, cheap to me, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
-they're sort of pressed, there's no... -That's right. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
..there's no substance to them, they're not solid. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
They're very, as you say, they're quite insubstantially made, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-they're just stamped out of sheet metal. -Yep. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
And then part of it, the chariot, has been gilded | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
and the goats themselves plated, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
which is why they've tarnished, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
but the good thing is, nobody's ever really tried to clean it. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
But, yes, it's very insubstantial | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
and I'm sort of amazed that they've managed to, sort of, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
stay intact with all the little bits of wire around them. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-There is a glass dome that goes over the top of it. -Yes. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
And somebody suggested the glass dome might be worth more than they are. I don't know. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
-And do you know what this is? -Well, it's a scent bottle. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
It's a scent bottle, yes. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
It's just a very decorative way of making a holder for a scent bottle. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
The bottle itself is green glass, with gilt paint | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
and, really, it doesn't look as though it's ever been used, does it? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
-No. -And so they were made in France around 1890, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
a real little French frivolity. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
Either someone in your family might have gone out there | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and bought them or they might have been exported to England | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
-and sold as a rather exotic sort of decorative little item. -Yes. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
-As a novelty they're worth about £300. -Oh, never, surely. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
I mean, to me they're just sort of two loony goats, they're... | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
£300! Right. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:33 | |
I really love objects | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
that encapsulate the time and place they were intended for | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
and looking at this collection here, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
that could only really be America in the 1950s. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
I've always been a collector and I like... | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Particularly I'm interested in design history | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
and I love the style of them, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
and also the fact that they're functional, they work, so... | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
-So you actually listen to them, too? -I listen to nearly all of them, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I have them in all different rooms of the house. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Much to my wife's irritation, because although I have about 100, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
she can't listen to The Archers on any of them | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
because that's broadcast on long wave and these are all medium wave. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
Of course, of course. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
It's a... From a design perspective, as you were saying, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
it's a very interesting collection | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
because these are more than just objects of technology. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
They're also objects of fashion. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
The pocket transistor radio is completely contemporary with | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
the arrival of the teenager in American society. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The first transistor radios | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
were manufactured in the States from 1954. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
1956, the Japanese get in on the act and they really make it their own. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
I think I'm correct in saying that the majority that we have here | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
are actually Japanese models. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
They are indeed, yes. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
And I think the Japanese, really, why they become so successful | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
is because they've got this mastery of producing decorative things. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
And we've got this lovely example here, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Bulova, with atomic age styling on the dial, lovely cream body | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
and this chrome highlight there, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
which really recalls 1950s automobile design. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
They're also quite telling of the period | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
in which they were made politically. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Now, I gather some of these markings, these arrows on the dial | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
of the Bulova have a particular meaning. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Can you tell me more about those? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
Yes, it was the Cold War period in America | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
and it was deemed by the government that these arrows indicated | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
the frequency you had to tune into | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
-for important announcements in the event of a nuclear war. -Wow. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
In case the Russians shut down all the other stations, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
that you would get your announcements | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
on those points on the wavelength. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
They are really lovely things, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
and of course we move from these objects of real finesse, actually - | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
the Bulova especially is really quite a stylish piece - | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
to the more novelty. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
I mean, this is pure kitsch of 1950s America, it really is, the owl. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
-Wonderful piece, with these eyes that light up... -They do light up | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
-when you're tuning it. -..when it's used. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
It's not going to show up in the sunlight. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
But a really lovely fun thing. Moving on to value. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
I mean, these vary quite dramatically, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
probably the Bulova is the most valuable, about £200 to £300. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:18 | |
The other examples, roughly £100 each. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
I think just the novelty value of this alone | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
gives it that kind of value. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
But it is a lovely, lovely collection. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
In fact, this is quite a nice one here. How do you switch this on? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
RADIO CRACKLES | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Very seldom do I see something on the Roadshow that I actually own myself, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
but I've got one of these at home | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
and it's a great piece of amusement, isn't it? Still. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
The grandchildren love it. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
What's this circuit board? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
OK, this is part of the RCA 110, this was the launch computer | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
-that launched the Saturn Vs that went to the moon. -Oh, my God. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
It says in here, "Wheel of Life," | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
we probably know it better as a zoetrope. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
But what it is, actually, is an optical toy | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
through which you get this magic of movement. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
So what about these, these parts here? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
-So these are parts of the Saturn V itself. -Right. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
The Saturn V was split into multiple stages | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
and one of the stages had a computer circuit ring in it | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
and these are parts of the computer that was on that. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-So these are proper space-flown pieces. -Absolutely. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
William Horner, and he was the guy responsible... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
-Yeah. -..in the 1830s. Local lad, wasn't he, Horner? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
He was born in Bath and he died in Bristol. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
I'm an astronomer and I used to work for the European Space Agency | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
-and I've also done some writing work for NASA. -Right. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
And I've met a lot of the Apollo moon walkers. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
And value, with all these strips here, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
I put it at around £500 to £700. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Nice, yeah, yeah, but it's not for sale. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Well, fortunately I've got one, so I don't need another! | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Space memorabilia is just going up and up and up. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
And I reckon there's probably £2,000 or £3,000 worth of material here. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
-Oh, wow. -Without too much trouble. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-Wow. -It's just brilliant. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
What have we got here? Oh, we've got | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
the man who takes his head off and passes it along. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
This is a most extraordinary box, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
I haven't seen one of these for a long time. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Made by the porcelain works at Worcester for sending things in. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
How did you come by it? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
Well, it's the box of a Christmas present | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
to my grandmother for Christmas 1914. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
A Miss A Venton was your... | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
-My grandmother. -Your grandmother. -Yes. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
I say. It's come all the way from Worcester, and what does it contain? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
It's a Royal Worcester porcelain basket. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
That's the box and here is the basket. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
That's the basket. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
My word, there we are, and with a flower basket | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
for putting flowers in, you put roses or daffs or whatever you want | 0:16:52 | 0:16:57 | |
into the basket and it's absolutely beautiful, isn't it? | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
They made a number of these, these are quite a common shape, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
I see these quite often, but it's very nice. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Do you think the present of this led to the wedding? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
I'm sure it helped, yes. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Well, God bless the basket and, value, of course it's in... | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
inestimable in the family, isn't it, because this led to you eventually. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
Eventually, yes. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
But in value, ah, about £300, £400. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
-Oh, right, yeah. -The box is probably more valuable than the pot. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
But it's wonderful, thank you so very much for bringing it in. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Oh, good. I'm glad you're interested in it. Thank you. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
What's the significance of bees, Lady Lansdowne? | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Well, the bees I collect | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
because Sir William Petty, his crest was a bee hive. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
So, the Petty Bees have always been part of our family crest. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
And Sir William Petty? | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Sir William Petty was Cromwell's Chancellor. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
So bees have always been a very potent symbol. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
A busy bee is a potent symbol. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Busy bees, indeed. And you like wearing them? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
I love wearing them. I have lots of them and I scatter them | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
all round sort of randomly in a rather bizarre way. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Interesting word, scatter. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Because these things were made at the end of the Victorian period, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
in fact, your two bees that you have here are late Victorian. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Classic late Victorian designs. Gold and silver, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
studded with diamonds in the wings and in the body, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
except that what's interesting is that one of the bees is set | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
with rubies and one of the bees is set with sapphires. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
They're nearly identical, but not quite. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
As far as the question of scatter, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
it's an interesting thing also to note that they're always going to | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
be worn on your dress, but also they were worn on things like parasols. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
Oh, interesting. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
So, they were called scatterbugs and you would scatter them | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
all over your clothes and on your accessories. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
So, if, can you imagine if you're walking down the road | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and you've got this bug on your parasol, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
"Oh, my goodness me, look at that." | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
-and it becomes a little conversation piece. -A-ha. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
You get the idea. The other way these are worn | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
is worth pointing out, this ruby and diamond one | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
in its original fitted box, if we lift up the block, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
we notice it's got the original... Did you know that? | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
No, I didn't know that was in there. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
-Well, that is a hair comb fitting. -Oh, really? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
In other words, you would screw the hair comb fitting to the back | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
of the bee, and you would put it at the back of your bun. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
And you'd look fabulous. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
And there it would tremble, naturalistically. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
The Victorians were very practical people. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Right, if they were being sold together, as two bees, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
you would be looking at £12,000 to £15,000 today. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Well, they're not going anywhere... | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-I doubted that they would. -..because I love them. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
I doubt that they would. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
-But I can tell you they're very nice bees. -Thank you. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
My grandparents travelled extensively, pre-war, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
and obviously ended up in Cairo at one point, and my grandfather, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
who loved to collect beautiful things, bought this canopic jar. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Yeah, well, I collect scarabs | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
but I never had the luck to find one of these. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
But as you know, as you've just said, it's a canopic jar | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and you probably know these jars were put in the tombs | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
of embalmed bodies with the embalmed vital organs | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
inside each one of them, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
-because there were four, this is one of four. -Oh. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
And each one of the four jars would have had a different head | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
representing one of the four sons of Horus, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and Horus was one of the most important gods in the Egyptian pantheon of deities. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
And he was like a sky god, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
and as you've probably heard of the eye of Horus, the Wedjat eye, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
well, this is one of his sons. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
And this son is called Imsety. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
-And this one would have contained the liver. -Oh. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
And they left the heart actually in the mummified body | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
because they believed that the heart could be tested | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
to see if the person had had a good life | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
and they tested it by weighing it with a feather, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and if the heart was lighter than the feather, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
then they'd had a good life | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
and they could pass through into the next world. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
And they're usually either made of alabaster, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
calcite or limestone and this one's alabaster as... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
This is the receipt, isn't it, for it? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
-Yes, yes. -From what date was this? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-1935. -1935, this is really good provenance. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
And it's from an antiquities merchant called | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Abd El-baki Aly El Gabry, excuse my pronunciation. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
Better than mine. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
It says here, "The undersigned Abd Baki Aly El Gabry hereby | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
"declares solemnly that the under-mentioned antiquities | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
"have been sold to EJ Saville of Cairo." | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
-My grandfather. -That's your grandfather. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
And the top piece here is the alabaster canopic jar, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
sold for £5 sterling in 1935. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
That's remarkable, to have that. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
Um, this type is usually from the 19th dynasty, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
that's about 1290 BC to 1180 BC. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
-That's the time of Ramses and Set. -OK. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
So, if it's confirmed, and I'm sure it is, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
that it's from that date, it could make £4,500 | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
and it could possibly make more. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Gosh, that's amazing. I hadn't expected that. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
This is a kind of a magic moment, really | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
because I know the story here, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
and you've got all this sea of faces | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
and we're about to start talking about your dad. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
-That's right, Andy, yes. -And it's magic. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
Come on, off you go, tell us about your dad. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
Well, this is my dad, Samuel Bachelor. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
He was born in 1898, and at age 15 he was apprenticed to | 0:22:42 | 0:22:49 | |
Royal Brierley Crystal in Brierley Hill where I was also born. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Stourbridge. -Part of Stourbridge Glass, that's right. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Unfortunately he was called up for World War I service, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
where he was unfortunately gassed and a POW. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
So when he came back to work, he was always short of breath. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
But he continued work, and in 1939, Steven and Williams | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
or Royal Brierley Crystal, brought out a prototype, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
and there were only three made. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
One went to King George VI, the other went to Saudi Arabia | 0:23:21 | 0:23:27 | |
and this one was on my father's bench when World War II broke out. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
The factory closed, it didn't reopen until 1947. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:38 | |
And when he got back to his bench, there was this. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
So he took it home with him. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
And I have it. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
Isn't it magic? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
This is part of his work, it's called intaglio, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
which is not quite the same as a deep cut. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
He was presented, after 40 years' service, | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
with this wonderful vase. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
VASE CHIMES | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
And with a fat pension, of course. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
No pension at all, he retired, sadly he only lived four years | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
after his retirement because his breath wasn't very good. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Well, bearing in mind, I mean, many of those who were | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
gassed in the First World War never made it back to anywhere. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Fortunately he made it home, otherwise I wouldn't be here. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Yeah. So you're telling the story about this. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
I'm telling the story about my dad, Samuel Bachelor, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
and I'm Brian Bachelor. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
Well, it's very nice to have you here, Brian, sweet. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Well, look, what we're talking about is really this enormous... | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Your dad is a representative of this enormous number | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
of highly skilled craftsmen... | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
That's right. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
..who were employed in 100,000 industries across this country | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
as engineers or body shop painters... | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-Correct. -..or gilders or... -That's right. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
..intaglio glass engravers. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
And the method for intaglio is different, as you say, to cutting. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
-This is cut crystal. -Yes, yes, he had... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
-But this is intaglio cut crystal. -Intaglio crystal. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
And what you did is, on these they used rotating wheels. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
That's right, he sat at his workbench like that. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
And he could print your name on a vase or on a piece of... | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
a water tumbler, just like that. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
And he had to do it in reverse, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
because the way that he worked is that the wheel, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
-the turning wheel... -Wheel. -..was here. -That's right. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-And he had to cut that mirror. -That is correct. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
So he had to learn the entire alphabet, plus dates, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
-and all the rest of it, in reverse. -That's right. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
And if that isn't a skill, I don't know what you think is, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
-you lot! -That's right. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:47 | |
And so what you do, he would have padded doughnuts. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
He had... His elbows had to rest on two patches. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
I'm telling you, guys, if you put your elbows on the table... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
-He's like that all day. -..all day... | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
-From half past... -..for his entire career. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
From half past seven until half past five every day, doing this. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
Breathing in lead crystal dust up his hooter. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
-Yes, that's right. -On top of the mustard gas | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
that the Germans had stuck up his hooter. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Given him, yeah, that's right, that's right. Yes. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
And the skills is fabulous. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
I mean, it doesn't take much to work out that | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
-that is a beautiful thing, isn't it? I mean it really is. -Definitely. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
-The fact it's for putting fags in... -That's right. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
-..you know there would be ten soldiers of... -Ten cigarettes! | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
..fags, pointing out of this... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
-That's right, yes. -..is what it is. -Yes. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
So, I tell you, the value of this stuff is... | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Oh, it's pitiful, I mean, it's just... I barely can bring myself | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
to say that it's there, it's not worth 100 quid, it's not. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-But... -But the fact is that you represent | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-tens of thousands of... -That's right. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
..people who've come down the generations from a job | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
-to a job from Grandpa to a job to Pa, a job to myself. -That's right. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
And it's all gone, 5,000 in Stourbridge, to five today. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
Thomas Webb and Corbett has gone, so has Stuart Crystal, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
and they were all there, working away in the '20s, '30s. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
And what a pleasure it is to be here on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
just to catch that snapshot of you and your dad. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
-That's right. -It's bloomin' great. Cheers, guv. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
Cheers. Thank you very much. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
You brought in this beautiful Japanese album. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
But, actually, it relates to a different country rather than Japan. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Yes, it was related to China. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
My great uncle went over there in 1897 | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
and he was over in China as a missionary, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
but he was in there during the time of the Boxer Uprising. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
-Fantastic, well, is he portrayed here? -Yes, this is him. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
-This gentleman at the back, pointing. -This gentleman. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Yeah, pointing in the camera. And this is dated May 5th 1905. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
-Yes. -Was it given as a gift? -It was sent as a birthday present, yes. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
Now, it's absolutely full of images | 0:27:59 | 0:28:00 | |
-that he actually took while out there. -He took them. Yes. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
And what's interesting about that is it was | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
a very important part of history. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-Oh, yes. -The Boxer Revolution. -Yes, yes. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
It was a time when the Chinese wanted | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
to get out of all Western influence. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
That's right, they were against all the foreign nationals, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
especially trade and the missionaries as well. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
So they decided to kill them. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
So an international force was put together. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
I think it was the Americans and the British and... | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
-There were quite a few, yes. -Quite a few. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
I think I saw something about German forces as well. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-Yep. -Yes. -Because they all had interests in China, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
-so it was important that they... -Yes. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
..they supported their interests. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
So, we'll just open up another few images. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
Here is this distinguished looking gentleman here. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
-Yes. -Who's he? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
One of the Generals who negotiated the escape of my uncle | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
and his family from the mission | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
where he was serving during the Boxer Rebellion. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
They had to flee where they were | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
and these people are the bodyguard before they left. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
So he was very lucky to escape with his life. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
He was very lucky to escape with his life. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:09 | |
There were 100 and odd missionaries and families killed | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
-as well as those. -And here's an image of the... | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
Of the house that he went back to, a complete ruin. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Was he a man of derring-do? I mean... | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
Well, I don't know, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:22 | |
he spent a couple of years later in outer Mongolia | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
as a missionary, you know, seeing what it was like out there. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
And sort of arrived in Hawaii, America, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
but, yes, he was a very capable person. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Well, I think this is a very important document. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
None of these photographs have ever been published before. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-No. -They're all done by him. -Yes. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
It's a, you know, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
this went on to create the beginning of the Chinese Republic. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Oh, yes, he saw the birth of the Chinese Republic | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
when he was over there, yes. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
-So, the people who are interested today... -Yes. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
..are modern-day Chinese. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
-That's right, yes. -So an important document. -Hm. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
It's potentially worth, at auction, between... | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
certainly £1,000 and £1,500. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
Oh, right. Didn't even think it would be worth that, but, as I said, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
it's the family value that... | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Of the person that he became, yes. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
I know, but lovely to see it | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
and thank you so much for bringing it in. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
Thank you very much, then. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
You've got some medals here from a Private Emmett Carson, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
from the 101st Airborne. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
Who is he? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
This man is my biological father... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
..who I found | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
after ten years of searching. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
How did you find out about him? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
I was clearing out my mother and father's loft. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
They'd passed away within six months of each other | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
and I happened to be up there | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
clearing out the loft and I found these airmail letters, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
letters from Emmett to my mother. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
When you read these letters, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
what did you find out? | 0:30:52 | 0:30:53 | |
Well, I found out that the father I thought was my father wasn't, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
but he was a wonderful man that brought me up. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
-And no-one had ever told you this? -No, no. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Gosh, that must have been a shock. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I'm afraid that everybody in the family was told to secrecy. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
I wasn't to find out. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
-So... -So, you found out in your... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
I'm 50 years old and I find out that poor old Dad is not my dad... | 0:31:12 | 0:31:17 | |
..but this GI, who lives in North Carolina, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
is my biological father. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Gosh, that's like an earthquake... | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
-Well... -..in your life. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
..I was very distraught for a couple of years | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
and I had to find him. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:33 | |
There's something inside that said to me, "I've got to find him." | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
And so did you find your biological father? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
I found the family. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
Sadly, he had died, in-between times. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-And that's how you got these medals, is it? -Yeah. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
When I was there, my cousin said to me, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
"Look, when he died, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
"the military flag was put on his coffin | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
"and there were coffin bearers and | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
"it was given to him because he was military." | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
And he said to me, "Look, you are his son, you should have them." | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
Tell me about the photograph album that you found. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
The first time we went there, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
my lady cousin said to me | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
"Do you want to look at the family Bible?" | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Happened to be the photograph album | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
of the whole family from about 1870 | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
up to the modern day. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
And I'm looking through it and we're going through, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
"That's your great-grandpa, that's your grandma," and all this | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
and then she said... We came to this photograph of this lady, | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
and she said, "We don't know who this is," she said, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
"but it's in the album," and I said, "Well, I know, it's my mother." | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
-Goodness. -So, obviously Emmett had put it in the album. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
So what does it mean to you to have these | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
and to have the flag that was on his casket? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Well... | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
It's... I can't explain it really. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
It's unexplainable because it's all down here, you know. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
I get emotional about it still, now, as you can see. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:57 | |
It just means I've had... | 0:32:59 | 0:33:00 | |
I was lucky, I had two fathers. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
I had one that gave me life and one that brought me up, | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
so I was very fortunate. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:07 | |
During my 30 years of the Roadshow | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
and I don't remember seeing early playing cards like these | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
and you have collected them. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
I have indeed, yeah. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:18 | |
Tell me what started it. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
Well, initially, it was an interest in history | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
and a passing interest in playing cards. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
And about 20 years ago, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
I bought a replica pack, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
which you can buy for about £5... Actually, this one. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
Subsequently, I managed to go online | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
and go to an auction | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
and I picked up these first - | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
which is just 20, obviously, of a set of 52. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
So, going to auctions, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
seeing what the dealer has to offer, I've managed to collect them. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
And did you collect the rest of the set? | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
I haven't been able to find the rest of the set yet, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
so there's 32 I've still got to find. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
Gosh, so you've got a target? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
I have got a target. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
These ones, I think, are earlier, aren't they? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
They are. | 0:33:58 | 0:33:59 | |
They're from an earlier period | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
and it's called the Knavery of the Rump. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
So this, as you know, is the front of the pack | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
-but it's a facsimile, it's not the real one... -Yes. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
..and it's showing the title of the pack, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
which is the Knavery of the Rump, | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
which is basically cocking a snook at Cromwell and his parliament. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
That's right. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
There are a lot of vignettes here, which are showing... | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
-Satirical. -..things that happened. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Exactly, satirical things that happened at the time and... | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
-Very entertaining. -It is entertaining. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
You go back down the history and find out more about | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
-just that three lines... -Yes. -..and it can tell you | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
-so much more about what was really happening at the time. -Absolutely. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
And, actually, I'm a bit ignorant, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
who was Lady Lambert... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
who was being very strong with Oliver? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
-I've absolutely no idea. -THEY LAUGH | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
Oh, fantastic, and all these | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
are part of this 50 pack | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
and you've just got two to get. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
I have got two to find somewhere. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Well, now, I recognise these wonderful illustrations - | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
probably from etchings by Francis Barlow... | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
-Right. -..who was known as the first English illustrator of books... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
-Uh-huh. -..but he was a painter, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
etcher and illustrator, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
and he was so brilliant | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
with his political sketches - | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
and you've got these wonderful ones. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
You don't really need to play a game, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
you can just pass them round in a gentleman's club, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
although I think they probably played rummy and whist. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Yes. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:25 | |
But they are so amusing you want to look at them and not pass them on. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:29 | |
They can take up a bit of time looking at them... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
-Absolutely. -..as it were. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
I do happen to know that a set of these, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
you say you've only got 50 out of the 52. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I've got 50 out of 52 of those, yeah. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
-And these are 1685. -About that. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
-Well, I'm just going to stick my neck out on these... -Uh-huh. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
..because, let's assume you're going to get the last two, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
-these are going to be worth £12,000. -Wow! | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Right. OK. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:54 | |
OK. | 0:35:57 | 0:35:58 | |
The interesting part for me | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
is that the later ones, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
which were the Marlborough ones - | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
-these ones. -Yeah. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
I think those were also by Francis Barlow. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
They're much more intricate, but I think he got better and better... | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
-Yeah. -..as he got on in his life. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
In the same way, you have got...how many of these? | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
I've got a full set of those. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Again, maybe £6,000 to £8,000. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
-Right. -So you've got, say, £12,000 here. -Yep. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
Say £7,000 there, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
-so that's £19,000. -Right. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
What did you pay for these? | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
About £1,200. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:36 | |
-£1,200? Well they've gone up since you bought them. -Right. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
When did you buy them? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
They've... Oh, about five, six years ago. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
Yeah, I think we're going to go to £3,000 for these... | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
-Right. -..and counting. -Right. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
It's so exciting and wonderful for the Roadshow | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
because we haven't had anything like this before. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
Yeah. I thought it was interesting to show people. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
-And wonderful for me, I never stop learning. -No, OK. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
-Thank you very much for bringing them. -Thank you, Bunny. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Well, it feels like all the fun of the fair today, doesn't it, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
with the tents and the excitement building, and the sunshine? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
And there's nothing more linked to a fairground, I guess, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
than one of these - a fairground horse. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
What's the story for you? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
Well, I bought it at auction about eight years ago, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
and I go to auctions fairly regular. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
I've never seen one before and I just fell in love with it | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
and I thought, "If I don't buy it, I'm never going to see another one." | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
So, it was catalogued as a 19th-century carousel horse | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
and I don't really know much more about it than that. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
Somebody did tell me that it... | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Because it faces to the right, it's American | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
but that's all I know about it really, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
-so I was hoping you could tell me a bit more about it. -Sure. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
Well, that's an interesting point that you've made | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
because it is facing this way - | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
which is basically anticlockwise, round a carousel. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
Now, most horses that you see | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
are designed to go the other way, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
clockwise, and that's a little indication | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
that it could be American. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
The American horses had the romance side, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
that's the highly decorated side, on the outside - | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
and also, being so highly decorated, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I think this is probably from the outer layer. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
-You know, there were probably three layers... -Right. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
..of horses, certainly two - | 0:38:18 | 0:38:19 | |
and he would have been on the outer layer. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
The carousel comes from a Middle Age system of training knights, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:28 | |
where knights would gallop on horses and try and hit things | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
-that were put in a circle around them... -Oh, I see. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
..and that was called a "carousela", a "little battle", | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
and, from that, came this, really - | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
a derivation of that particular word. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Now, you bought it, what, as a piece of sculpture, almost? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
I just bought it because I love it, really, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
and I suppose it is a piece of sculpture and it was... | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I bought it at a time when I had | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
more disposable income than I have now | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
and I just fell in love with it and thought I wouldn't see another one, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
and I justified it by the fact | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
that it's cheaper to keep than a real horse | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
and it doesn't need mucking out. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
So, yeah, I went for it and it... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
I always hesitate to tell people how much I paid for it | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
because it was a lot of money, but I love it. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
So, let's think about it. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
It's a late-19th century American carousel horse, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
from, I think, one of the collectable makers, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
Dentzel. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
So, I think that I'd put a figure of £3,000 to £5,000 on it | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
as a sort of middling estimate - | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
but knowing that the market is in the States for these | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
and it may be that if the right person out there sees it... | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
it could take off, but it's not something I can see | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
is going to cross the Atlantic any time soon. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
No, I don't think I'll ever be able to get rid of it, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
but that's good to hear | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
because I paid less than that, so that's a relief. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Oh, very good. Well, we like a happy, smiling face | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
when we give a valuation. Excellent. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
Well, thanks very much for bringing it in and... | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
-I hope it continues to give you lots of pleasure... -Yes. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
..and for this one, too, as she grows into it. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
I think she'll probably claim it, at some stage, as her own. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
-So, obviously I can see you've got some programmes. -Yes. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-They're in Italian. -They are. They're... | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
At the end of the War, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
my grandfather was in Rome | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
and they were all given three days off at the end of the war... | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
-Oh, right. -..and all his friends | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
-decided to go and enjoy the company of the local ladies... -And... | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
..but my grandfather decided - | 0:40:31 | 0:40:32 | |
because he'd never been - he would go to the opera. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
So he went three nights running and these are the programmes. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
And he went three nights running. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
Oh, my God. He was obviously a very cultured gentleman. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
He was wonderful, he was absolutely wonderful. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Oh, what a fantastic story. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
So, I'm sure they're probably not worth anything | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-but I just think it's... I love the story... -That's great, yeah. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
..and the fact that he kept them and brought them back. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
-It obviously had a very strong impact on him. -Yes, absolutely. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Oh, brilliant. Oh, well, I hope you have a great day today... | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
-Thank you very much. -..and one of our experts | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
-would be very happy to look at them for you, I'm sure. -Thank you. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
This huge leatherbound volume looks like a monster book, doesn't it? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
And, in fact, it says, "Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll." | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
But further down it says, "A Motion Picture", | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
which, of course, is quite strange. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
-So, let's open it up and have a look. -Mm-hmm. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-If you don't mind supporting that. -Yeah, of course. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
This is signed, "To Anne Waddington from Alice in Wonderland" and... | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
what this is, in fact, is an amazing presentation script | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
for the 1933 Paramount film Alice In Wonderland. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
The title page, there, is amazing | 0:41:50 | 0:41:51 | |
but before we talk about that, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
tell me a little bit about how you came to have this. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
This used to be my great-grandmother's, | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
-who passed it on to my mother. -Right. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
The book is signed, "From Alice in Wonderland," | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
the actual actress herself. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
So we believe it was given to a friend of my great-grandmother | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
and, when my mum saw it, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
-I think she said she was 17 years old and said... -Right. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
"..Oh, my gosh, this is absolutely amazing." | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
And so my great-grandmother said, "Well, you can have it." | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
So, gave it to her and she's just had it in the house all these years | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
and never really knew what to do with it. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
So my husband and I thought we'd take it down | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
and find out a bit more, if we can, about it. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
Well, I don't think I've ever seen a script quite like this - | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
-a presentation script. -Beautiful, isn't it? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Yeah, if we look at this frontispiece, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
we can see that we've got very early Cary Grant here, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
we've got WC Fields | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
and, actually, let's turn a little bit further | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
because I think this was probably made, perhaps, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
to present to some sponsors or something like that... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
Oh, right. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:51 | |
..because what it is, it's a complete storyboard as well | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
with characters, costumes, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
storyboarded out with all of the script. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
It really is a magnificent thing. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Now, to be frank with you, | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
having seen nothing like this before - | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
and I've seen quite a few movie scripts - | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
it's quite difficult to try and, kind of, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
think about what something like this is worth. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
But do you know? I'm going to put | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
£5,000 to £8,000 on this. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Oh, my! | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
I won't give it back to my mum. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
I'm off. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
It really, really is a staggeringly good piece of movie history... | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
-Yeah, my gosh. -..I think. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
And actually, an absolute delight to see it. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
-So, thanks ever so much. -Oh, thank you very much. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
I'm off, I'm running. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
It's too heavy to run with. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
-Thank you. -Pleasure. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
Sorry, may I interrupt a second? | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
A matching pair. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:52 | |
I like this. I think it's quite sweet, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
what made you bring it here today? | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
Well, I collect pigs and I also collect Vestas | 0:43:59 | 0:44:01 | |
and I just wondered if it was worth anything. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:03 | |
-126. -Yes. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:05 | |
-Simon and Halbig. -Yep. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
Circa 1930, the flirty eye | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
is going to be worth £400 to £600, | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
and the one without the flirty eyes, even though they're twins... | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
-Three to five? -Three to five. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
Fantastic, that's great. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:18 | |
Wonderful. Sorry to interrupt. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
It was plated all over. It's cast brass, but heavy casting. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
-Normally these are sheet metal. -Right. -This is really nice. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
They come from my grandfather. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
He used them to go and find, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
obviously, the girlfriend at the time. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
Did the girlfriend at the time become your grandmother? | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
-She did. -Ah, that's lovely. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:38 | |
And it's got a nice curly tail | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
back there and little hooves. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:42 | |
I... It's just nice. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
I'm always known for lifting up dolls' dresses, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:47 | |
I get teased like mad. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
And what I like about it is, | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
the striker is inside the head. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
Normally the striker's on the side or on the belly | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
but it's inside there and this is solid cast, this bit... | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
She's very grand, isn't she? | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
Got wonderful hair. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:02 | |
..and it's just really nice. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
I suppose it's Edwardian, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
1920s maybe. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
Have you ever had her valued? | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
Half-heartedly. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
Right, and...? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
They said £1,000. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:14 | |
Well, I'm going to say £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
Worth about... | 0:45:17 | 0:45:19 | |
£200 to £250 to a collector. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
That's good. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:23 | |
He's called Harry. So, I've had him since I was eight | 0:45:23 | 0:45:26 | |
and he's a member of our family. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
Ah, I'm not surprised. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:30 | |
How do you do, Harry? | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
You are very lucky. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
You are very lucky and so are you. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Well, not only am I fascinated by jewellery | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
but I love architecture as well | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
and there's something about this necklace | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
that really has an architectural feel, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
and almost a religious feel. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
So how did you come to have it? | 0:45:52 | 0:45:54 | |
It's a family piece that my grandmother inherited | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
from an aunt of hers | 0:45:57 | 0:45:58 | |
and has come down, through my grandmother and my mother. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
to my sister and I. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
Part of this family was quite religious. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
Auntie Claire, whose necklace it was, was quite religious. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
Now, whether she actually had this piece made personally for her | 0:46:09 | 0:46:12 | |
or she inherited it from her mother, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
we don't know that - | 0:46:15 | 0:46:16 | |
but all the stones actually do represent different saints. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:20 | |
That's right, because we've actually got a... | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
Well, a description here from the jewellers, Lewis Abbot, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
which relates to also the box - | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
so we know that the two are combined | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
and it's not something that | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
they've written after the purchase, which is great... | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
-No, that's right. -..isn't it? | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
-And it does say how important those saints were and... -Yes. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:38 | |
..with relation to how they should have gems associated to them | 0:46:38 | 0:46:41 | |
-as well... -Yes. -..and for many centuries, | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
we've known that gems are associated with months for birthdays | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
and various love symbols | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
through the Victorian period they were picked up on - | 0:46:49 | 0:46:52 | |
and to see them associated with saints is really lovely. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
I mean, we can pick out, also, from this list, here, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
which is in a different hand from the from the letter... | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
-Yes. -..or description up here. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:02 | |
So, this must, maybe, have been done by her? | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
It may be done by her | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
-or even my great grandfather. -Yes. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
Well, he studied it very carefully and | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
has listed all the saints | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
and also then related them to the stone | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
that they're associated with | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
and also the month that the stones related to. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
So let's have a look here, | 0:47:21 | 0:47:22 | |
we've got St Andrew associated with the sapphire - | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
which, of course, is the stone associated with April, | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
the month of April. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
And there's the gorgeous sapphire just sparkling there. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
And then further down... If we just go down to St John, | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
we've got emerald associated, of course, with the month of June - | 0:47:36 | 0:47:40 | |
which is just there. The lovely little stone there. | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
And on it goes, with all the different stones that we've got. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:46 | |
So, it's set in probably nine carat gold | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
because it's quite a nice pale gold | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
and all the detailing is very delicately done | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
with the trefoil motifs that we see here. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
So, a fun piece of jewellery and, date-wise, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
it fits in around about the 1860s, 1870s. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
So, does it ever come out? | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
I wore it at my wedding. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:05 | |
-Did you? -And I also wore it at Christmas to a Christmas do. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
-Uh-huh. -Because, yeah... | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
I haven't told my sister that... | 0:48:10 | 0:48:12 | |
Oh, no. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:13 | |
..but it was a high-end Christmas do. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
But, yes. I have worn it occasionally | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
and I would wear it again | 0:48:19 | 0:48:20 | |
because it's such a nice piece of jewellery to wear as well. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
It is, isn't it? It's absolutely wonderful and go with any outfit | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
-because of all the colours... -Yeah. -..in there as well so it's great. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
Now obviously it's a family piece. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
-You're not going to sell it, are you? -No. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
It's going to stay within the family but I think | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
in an auction environment, should it go in for sale, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
because of all the stones and the story | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
and the fun side to it as well, we'd be looking at an estimate | 0:48:39 | 0:48:42 | |
of round about £1,500 to £2,000. | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
Blimey. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:45 | |
We didn't think it was going to be as much as that. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
It's not often on the Antiques Roadshow that we get to use, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
let alone wear the items that we see, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:59 | |
and you two, me and this mannequin | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
are wearing some fantastic 1930s and 1940s suits | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
-by Montague Burton. -Indeed. -Yeah. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
But you look the whole part. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:09 | |
-I mean... -Thank you. -..tell me the whole story. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
How did you get into this? | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
Well, we're both interested in the tailoring industry | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
and we're both '30s and '40s re-enactors. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
We go all over the country doing re-enacting and World War II events. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
Yeah, and we just love the era. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
Yeah. We love the clothes and it's... | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
-As you can see, we wear it most weekends. -Yeah. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
But it's not just the clothing. I mean, literally, from top to toe - | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
the shoes, the trousers, the suit, the hair. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
I mean, it's magnificent. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:38 | |
What do your friends think. I mean, how old are you? | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
-28. -Yeah, both of us are 28. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
-OK, what do they think of all of this? -Slightly odd. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
No, no, we've got a lot of friends who re-enact with us, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
who are used to it, and then our | 0:49:48 | 0:49:49 | |
work colleagues and other friends just sort of go, "Fair enough." | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
-Accept it, yeah. -Well, it was very much sort of a moment in history, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
-a moment in fashion history, really. -Definitely. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:57 | |
Montague Burton came over... | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
I think he came in 1900 and, shortly afterwards, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
founded his company selling clothes in 1903 | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
-and was enormously successful. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
By 1929, hundreds of shops, mills, factories. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
I mean, he really captured that moment of, sort of... | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
In a way, would you say tailoring for the masses? | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
Yeah, tailoring for... | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
Yeah, definitely tailoring for the masses and sort of | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
allowing the everyday man to buy a tailor-made suit, | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
which a lot of people couldn't afford back then. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
I think his big thing was, most of his shops, if not all of them, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:31 | |
had the billiards hall above the shop, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
so it drew the customers in. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
He was a sharp guy, this Lithuanian Jew who came over in 1900, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:40 | |
but it wasn't just that, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
-it was also these seductive catalogues. -Yes. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
Look at how smart you can be, look how marvellous you can look. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
And certainly wearing this suit, I'm sure you're the same, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
-you do feel sort of proper, I think. -Yeah, you do. Yep, definitely. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
So how much of your life has it taken over? | 0:50:53 | 0:50:55 | |
I mean, you do re-enactments, you say, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
but you seem to have so much more than just the suits. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
Yeah, I've sort of collected all the... | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
collectibles that go with it, really, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
and anything that sort of interests me and it's got... | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
Displays the suits and... | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
It's just... Love it, fantastic. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:11 | |
-You've got to have it? -Yeah, I have really. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
-Do we think we're perhaps a little obsessed? -Yeah, a little bit, maybe. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
-Yeah, definitely. -But there's a lot to get obsessed about. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
I mean, not only do you look, sort of, the sharpest cats in town, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
but just looking at the tailoring of these pieces... | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
-I mean, I can't help noticing the back on this suit. -Yes, that's... | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
-He really captured the style of the day. -Definitely. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
I mean, this suit here's a particularly rare suit, | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
British tailored by Burton. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
It's more... The back belt and the knife pleats | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
are more common in American tailoring. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
This one's extremely rare - maybe... | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
Probably about £500, £600 - maybe more on a... | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
If someone really wanted it, they would pay... | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
maybe £1,000 plus. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:48 | |
Maybe someone like you might pay £1,000 plus. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
There's a big difference. I mean, you really are dedicated collectors | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
and I suppose for these pieces here, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:56 | |
-these mean more to you as a collector... -Yeah, definitely. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
..than perhaps they might fetch on the market. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
I mean, anything, I suppose, from £5 to sort of £10, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
-maybe even up to £50 for a piece. -Yeah. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
So you've got a fantastic collection here | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
that really is going to be, what? £1,200 to £1,800 worth, I suppose. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Plus the cup, maybe up to £2,000. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
Yeah, definitely, yeah. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
Hot property now, hot property of the future, | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
but I can tell you one thing, I am boiling hot and you must be too, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:20 | |
so I think I'm going to go and change back out of this | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
-and hand it back. Thank you very, very much. -Thank you very much. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:25 | |
-Fantastic collection. -Cheers, thank you. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
Now, for those of us who think, "What sort of thing is this?" | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
-It's a cigarette box. -That's right. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
Made at a time when people still smoked... | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
-Yeah, I know. -..but this is made in around about 1900. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Now, I know a little bit about it, but I'd like you to tell me | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
a little more that I can add to. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
So, first of all, where's it come from? | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
Comes through my family, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
my grandfather received it. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:53 | |
We were told, in the family, from the Tsar - | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
but, of course, not directly, I'm sure. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
My grandfather was a metallurgist | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
and he was asked, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
by the White Russians, to go over | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
and help sort out the guns | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
that weren't firing...straight or I don't know quite what | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
but they weren't behaving themselves very well. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
So when would that have been? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:12 | |
About the time of Tsar Nicholas II, do you think? | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
Yes, it must have been. The Revolution. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
-Well, the White Russians, of course, they were loyal to the Tsar. -Yes. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
They are fighting against the Bolsheviks, the Reds. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
That's right. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
And we all know what happened to the Tsar in 1917 | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
when the Revolution came. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
Well, let's have a look. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:29 | |
It's made of silver, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:30 | |
there's a little circular disc in the middle | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
and it is blue enamelled decoration | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
and what enamel that is! | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
Because it's covered in this very smooth, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
almost wet, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
polished covering of Royal Blue. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
And, of course, when you look carefully, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
you see that the background to the blue | 0:53:50 | 0:53:52 | |
are all these little individual wavy lines. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
It's quite a simple piece, really, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
-as far as the construction's concerned. -Yes, it is. | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
The middle - and you mentioned Russia - | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
well, that's quite right, it's a Catherine the Great rouble. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
-That's right. -Gold rouble. -I was always told it was a rouble. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
-You were told that? -Yeah. -Let's look inside it, shall we? | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
First of all, diamonds... | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
-Yes. -..in this little lip. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:13 | |
-That's right. -When I lift up the little lip... | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
..inside, we have, | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
which I'm really delighted to see more than anything else, | 0:54:19 | 0:54:21 | |
-is the original cigarette... -Yes. -..that's been left there. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
-Yes. Might need it one day. -Right. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
Now, looking at the marks inside the box... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
just down here, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
we see that there is a little stamp of a woman's head in profile, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
-called a Kokoshnik - the Russian mark. -Oh, right. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
The mark on the right of that has got a little tiny monogram, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
which is the work of a man called Hollming... | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
Right. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
-..who was a craftsman working for Faberge. -Faberge, yes. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
And sure enough, on the right-hand side of that, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
the Faberge stamp there. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:57 | |
-Very nice indeed. -Oh. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
What do we like to see on the Antiques Roadshow? | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
-Nice things. -And we like to see Faberge. -Oh, do you? | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
Well, of course, we love Faberge, of course we do. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
With one little teeny caveat. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
Yes, I know. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:12 | |
What exactly happened there? | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
Well... | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
my family didn't keep boxes, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
so it was only wrapped in a, sort of, | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
soft cloth covering | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
and I shoved it into my little safe - | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
which was rather small, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
bit hard - and it, sort of, got knocked. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
So, in other words, an absolutely pristine, perfect Faberge box... | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
I know. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:38 | |
..you SHOVE IN to your safe. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
So, there is a little bit of a defect in one corner... | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
-Yes. -..but not absolutely terrifying | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
because I think, these days, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:46 | |
with the sophistication of craftsmen and workshops, | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
you could get that repaired... | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
-Oh, great. -..and it should be repaired as well. -Oh, right. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
Has it been valued? | 0:55:55 | 0:55:56 | |
Years ago, when my father first gave it to me, 35 years ago, | 0:55:56 | 0:56:01 | |
I took it to London and had it valued | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
and I was told it was worth £900 - | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
that was before its damage. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
So, in perfect condition, it was valued... | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
-Absolutely perfect condition... -..at £900. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
..with more cigarettes in it, I may say. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
With more cigarettes. So, what's it worth today? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
No idea. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:17 | |
-£6,000 to £8,000. -AUDIENCE GASPS | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
No?! | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
I'm amazed. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:24 | |
Lovely. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
Amazing. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
Do you remember the chap who told us | 0:56:31 | 0:56:32 | |
earlier in the programme, so movingly, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
about his father who he discovered | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
was actually an American GI | 0:56:37 | 0:56:38 | |
and he only found out when he was in his 50s? | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Well, the other thing he showed me was this marvellous document. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:44 | |
I want to show it to you. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:45 | |
"Over there: Instructions for American servicemen in Britain 1942." | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
Presumably something his father read. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
There's two marvellous bits in it. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:53 | |
First of all, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:54 | |
"The British are tough." | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
"The English language didn't spread across the oceans | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
"and over the mountains and jungles, and swamps of the world | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
"because these people were panty-waists." | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
And then, one other golden nugget of advice. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
"When you see a girl in khaki or air force blue | 0:57:07 | 0:57:09 | |
"with a bit of ribbon on her tunic, remember, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
"she didn't get it for knitting more socks than anyone else in Ipswich." | 0:57:11 | 0:57:15 | |
How brilliant. These are rules you could live by. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
From Bowood House, and the whole Antiques Roadshow team, | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
till next time, bye-bye. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 |