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Today's location for the Antiques Roadshow has a history that wouldn't | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
feel out of place in a soap opera. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Fabulous wealth, crippling debts, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
romance, illicit affairs, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
a love-struck curate, even a ghost. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Welcome to Hanbury Hall near Droitwich in Worcestershire. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
THE ARCHERS THEME PLAYS And talking soaps, | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
it's thought the creator of The Archers may have based | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
his fictional village of Ambridge on Hanbury. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
And it's believed that Hanbury Hall | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
could be the inspiration for Ambridge's Lower Loxsley. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Before being taken over by The National Trust in 1953, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Hanbury Hall had been owned by | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
the Vernon family for more than 300 years. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
It was built for Thomas Vernon, a fabulously wealthy lawyer. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
He employed some of the best designers | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
and artisans of the day to construct | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
this elegant mansion in the style of William and Mary. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
So what about the romance, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
the curate and the ghost? | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Well, that came courtesy of Emma Vernon, who was born in 1755, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
and she spent much of her childhood here at Hanbury Hall. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
As heiress to the impressive Hanbury Hall estate, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Emma was a fine catch for Henry Cecil, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
the Earl of Exeter in waiting. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
But the path of true love did not run smoothly. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
The pair fell heavily into debt, their only son and heir died - | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
aged just six months - | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
they grew apart and, eventually, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Emma ran off to Portugal with the local curate. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
But there are a few more twists and turns in the plot yet. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
Henry fell in love with a local farmer's daughter - a teenager, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
she was just 18 - and he married her. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
But, because he hadn't divorced Emma, the marriage was illegal, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
so then he had to divorce Emma and marry his teenager a second time, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
and that left Emma free to marry her curate. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Wouldn't happen in Ambridge. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
Maybe it would. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:29 | |
The emotional impact of events long ago at Hanbury Hall is said to | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
linger on with the ghost of Emma, dressed in black, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
wandering along this route from the house to the church, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
where she enjoyed secret trysts with her lover. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Who knows? She may be looking on as our experts get the day underway. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
On a chilly, misty Worcestershire morning, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
I like nothing better than to get my | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
teeth into something really wonderful like this. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
It's such a beautiful picture. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
The artist - William Strang. The date - about 1910, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
I think. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
And the subject - | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
one of the most extraordinarily beautiful nudes I've ever seen. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
It's lovely, isn't it? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
Well, I'm very fond of her, I must say. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
We've had it in the family for a long, long time. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Have you? How many generations? | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
Well, I think it was bought by my great-grandfather, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
who was a fellow called Lawrence Hodson, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
and it's passed down to my grandmother, then my mother. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
And, when my mother passed away, I think my sisters and I | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
not quite tossed up for it, but I got the first choice. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
She sits in our drawing room on the wall. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
It's... Everybody says, "Ooh, look at that painting." | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Men and women, I'm sure. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
Yes, they rather think she's a bit large in the rear. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
-No, but magnificent. -It is still a beautiful painting, yes. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
It really is. Why is it so beautiful? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
It's almost because of its simplicity, really, isn't it? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
The light and shadow are treated very, very well - delicately. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
It seems to me that it's an incredibly complicated picture, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
but simply done. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
So this background, first of all, is just a yumptious colour, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
and that colour here as well is brilliantly done. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
And then this colour... It's just bands of colour going along, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
and the shade around here is beautifully modulated. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
You can read her body perfectly. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
William Strang was one of the very early peoples | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
of the Slade art school, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
which was incredibly influential, and he was a great draughtsman. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
He was very open to influence. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
He was a very curious man. He was an intellectual, really. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
And he loved to look at the work of other artists. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
And, with William Strang, it's always worth looking to see | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
what his influence is in any particular picture. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I think in this one, perhaps, Degas. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
You see this black, the way that it's just very briefly done - | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
that's exactly what Degas would have done. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Also she's very tight in the picture plane, isn't she? | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
Very pushed in, which kind of dramatically emphasises her shape. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Now, it's actually an oil painting but it's never been varnished, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
I don't think. And what that means is | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
it's got this lovely matte finish, no gloss on it at all. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It's got a real studio feel about it as a result. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
It looks as though he's just left his brush off | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
after three generations. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
So the value won't really bother you one way or another. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
I've no idea what the value is, really. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
Well, I'm going to put £10,000 to £15,000 on it. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-Really? -I've pushed the boat out a little bit for a picture this size | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
because it is just so incredibly beautiful. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
It's also that perfect sort of cabinet size | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
that would go anywhere - | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
in any house, any collection, anywhere. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
It's absolutely lovely. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
This is such a lovely colour, the top. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
What have you been using it for? | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Well, originally I can remember it was near an open fire | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
and we stored logs in it. That's my first recollection of it. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
And I've always wondered what it is. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Then when we moved, it was used for storing papers into it, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
but now my husband uses it for | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
something else more modern, don't you? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
We now use it as an entertainment unit. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
I put a stereo on the top of it | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
and the inside is used to store CDs and videos. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
But haven't things moved on a bit since videos and CDs now? | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Well, it has an MP3 player now on top instead. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
What I love about this, and attracts me to it immediately, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
is the simplicity of it. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
It's made by a carpenter. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Not a cabinet-maker, because this was before the era | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
of cabinet-makers. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
Not a joiner, because there are no joints. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
It's nailed together. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:31 | |
So it's a really early piece of furniture. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-It's a 17th-century one. -Oh! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
But it's just so simple. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
There are six planks - one, two, three, four, five, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and then six underneath. Absolutely glorious. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
So just open it up. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
It's just so lovely inside. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Dry as a bone, untouched. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
The grain on this is relatively even. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
Now, I'm going to stick my neck out here. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
I think that that means that it's probably | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
imported oak from the Baltic area. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
-Gosh. -And, of course, it would have been used for linen. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
But it's just so beautiful. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
It's quiet, understated but not underused, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
that's what I love about it. It's just great. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
£1,000. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
-Gosh. -That's better than we thought. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
Much more than I thought it was going to be. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
That's amazing. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
-£1,000? -Yeah. -Really? -Absolutely. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
A much-needed burst of bright colour on this sort of | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
rather misty and grey day. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
And I'd like to think that, perhaps in the mists of time | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
in the 1970s, you wore this, bright and colourful, too. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Yes, I did. In those days, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
if you liked someone's clothes and somebody's said they liked it, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
you gave it to the person. That's how I got it. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
So this is sort of free and easy hippy living? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
I had just gone down to London to visit the galleries. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
I was at college, up in Stourbridge, fine-art student. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
Used to go down to town. And we just wore this sort of thing then. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
It was designed by Peter Blake, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
who's probably Britain's most famous and most influential pop artist. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
He's very well known for designing the cover of a Beatles album which | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
you might have heard of. And it was produced for the ICA, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
so the Institute of Contemporary Arts in London. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
And it was produced in a relatively small edition size. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
We don't know quite how many were produced but it is a scarce thing, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
it's not at all easy to find. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
And I suppose it sort of maps in with pop art in the way it was | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
the whole idea of commercialism and disposability. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
It looks like it's made of paper | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
but it's actually made of polyethylene. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
And it comes sort of ten years after that whole sort of paper clothing | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
thing. All of those things like paper dresses. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
-The pants? -Pants, yes. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I think paper pants. I've never quite understood the logic behind | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
that, and we should leave that one there! | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
But you would buy for 5p or something, wear once, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
maybe twice if it survived. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
So it is, it's all connected to the sort of themes behind pop art. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
And on the side here you've got names of the artists, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
from Stanley Spencer to Brancusi, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
all the way down to The Beatles and Balthus | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
and the Pre-Raphaelites. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
But I notice there are little bits of wear as well around here. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
What happened here? Was this over-vigorous wearing? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
It's relatively recent. I rescue ferrets | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
and, unfortunately, they got inside the bag and damaged it. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-So this is a ferret nibble? -I'm afraid so. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Well, you do need to keep this away from the ferrets in the future, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
I'm afraid. They're sought-after pieces. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
In perfect condition, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
on a retail basis, I've seen them offered for around £2,000. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
I think, with the wear and the damage here, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
it's not going to really fetch that. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
I have a feeling that, even still, in this condition, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
you're looking at around £400 to £600. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
That's good to know. That's lovely. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
Now, typical Victorian box with little bits of gold around the edge | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
and within it is something that, for me, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
gets to the very core of my being | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
because this is one of the best examples | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
of a cameo brooch that I've seen on the Roadshow for years. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
Now, first question, where did it come from? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
It was given to my Great-great-aunt Zilla, when she got married. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
It was given to her by John Corbett, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
who was locally known as the salt king. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
He made his fortune from salt in Droitwich. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
And he was an admirer and gave it to her as a wedding present, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
but that's really all I know. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
So the name Corbett is very significant round Droitwich? | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
-It is, yes. -Round here. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
Most of the cameos that we see on the Antiques Roadshow | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
are really rather modest and they are not very valuable. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
This is a very different thing. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Why it is so exciting is because of | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
the sheer detail that appears in this carving. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Do you know what it's carved out of? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
I don't, to be honest, no. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Well, it's carved out of volcanic lava. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-Oh, really? -And what happened was, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
particularly in the mid-Victorian period, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
a lot of people went across to places like Mount Vesuvius. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
And you'd have the volcanic lava, and it's quite a tough material, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
and it was found in lots of different colours. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
Caramel brown - like this one - black, white and grey. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
And the Italians were very, very good at carving profiles. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:21 | |
So why is this so good? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
Well, it's worth marvelling at the sheer intricacy of the carving. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
This is a Classical head in profile. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
First of all, you have a winged horse, which I'm assuming | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
is probably Pegasus. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
The symbol of the winged horse is often, if you like, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
associated with Minerva. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Now, I would have to confirm it, I'd have to do a bit of checking, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
but I think this is supposed to represent Minerva. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Even behind Pegasus you've got another female form there. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:55 | |
-So the definition just goes on and on. -Yes. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
It's in a very high-quality gold frame. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
You can even hinge the pendant loop, so you can fold it down | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
under the frame. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-So that's hinged. -Oh, right. Gosh, I didn't know that. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-Did you not see that? -No. -Look at that. That's a nice touch. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
All right, so there it is, fitting snugly in its box. So next question, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
what's it worth? What do you pay for a cameo like this? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
I have never seen a volcanic-lava cameo of this quality before. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
£1,500 to £2,000. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
Never. Oh, gosh. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:30 | |
That's just amazing, isn't it? | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
It was worth the queue in the fog. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
I like to think so. Thank you. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Well, my aunt gave them to me. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
Her husband, Guy Granet, shot in the Olympics in London 1948. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:52 | |
And there's lots of memorabilia. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
The most attractive, I think, is this lovely poster, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
which I'm gently opening, for the Olympic Games. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
In 29th of July to 14th of August in London. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
You've really got a very charming oil painting here | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
that is presented as a tray. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-It's oil. -I didn't realise that. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
Basically, what we've got is a papier-mache tray | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
produced by a firm called Jennens And Bettridge, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
who were working in Birmingham. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
And here we are, full gallop, just entering the woodland there. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
But I love this stencilled surround as well, with the vine leaves here. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
It's pristine, isn't it? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
-It is pristine. -It's mint. Where has it been all these years? | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
It's been in a box in the cupboard. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
I'm so grateful for your cupboard. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Yes, it's a lovely poster, isn't it? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Indicative of the time. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
So, do we value it as a tray or as an oil painting or both? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
I think it is a great thing. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
What would it make if it came up for auction? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
400, 500. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:54 | |
-That bracket. Mid-hundreds. -Fantastic. That is unbelievable. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
That's wonderful. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Bright, bold and beautiful... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and worth £600 to £800. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Never! | 0:14:03 | 0:14:04 | |
You've brought me a piece from the other side of the world, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
something from a pre-Christian society. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Where did you get it? | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
I was passing a gentleman's house with two friends | 0:14:19 | 0:14:25 | |
and he was clearing his garage out. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
And he said, "Do you boys want anything out of this pile of rubbish?" | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
And on top of this pile of rubbish there was two fencing foils | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
and one facemask. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
And suddenly there was a great rush. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
The one lad had got the facemask on and the foil, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
the other lad picked the foil up | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and they were bashing seven bells | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
out of each other across this chap's garden, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
leaving me with a pile of rubbish. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
And I noticed this sticking out. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
-The end was... -It was there | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
and I pulled it out and it was absolutely filthy and black. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
I said to the gentleman, "Can I have this?" | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
And he said, "If you don't have it, it is going to be burnt." | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
And I've had it now for about 57 years. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Fantastic. Well, you lucky thing. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
We are looking at a piece from Polynesia, from French Polynesia, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
and specifically the islands of the Austral Archipelago, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
the Austral Islands. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And these pieces, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
they come mysteriously and quietly down the ages. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Yet we don't fully understand them, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
and that's something exciting because it is lovely to look at, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
it's lovely to hold, isn't it? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Yes. Surprisingly light. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
It is fabulous. And as you say, the carving, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
this chip carving is absolutely crisp. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
And have you noticed, the shaft is oval section, not just circular? | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
It tapers from the top. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
The top of the paddle has a number. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
These little facemasks... | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
The lips, the eyes, yet they've got what look like sunglasses on, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
with, like, a sunburst effect. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Now, these must be little spirits, little deity faces, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
that must have meant something to the Austral Islanders. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Even the rosette from the top, full-on, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-is just a little work of art, isn't it? -It is, it's amazing. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
Now, I've said it's a paddle, but, you know, | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
it would be useless as a paddle. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
It would never have seen watercraft. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-No, it would break. -It is too weak. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
So, we are looking at a ceremonial piece. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
It is hard to date, because we don't know who brought it back. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
It is a pity the gentleman who gave it to you didn't have a story. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
It might have come from a missionary. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
We think of the early explorers, Captain Cook, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
but there's no evidence. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
I would predict this to be the first half of the 19th century, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
so we're looking at a piece of certainly 150, 180 years old. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
They are not especially rare, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
but they are especially appreciated on the market. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
And I think, with the colour and the condition of this, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
you would be looking at realising a price at auction | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
of around £10,000. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Wow! That was... | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
That surprises me. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
So, tell me, how does an Indian temple come to Hanbury Hall? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
We had an elderly friend of the family | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
that sadly passed away in June, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
and when we were clearing the house, this was buried in one of the rooms. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
We genuinely don't know any of the history, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
it wasn't something he mentioned whilst alive, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
so all we know is what is signed at the bottom of it, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
but we genuinely don't know the history. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Well, yes, very conveniently, obviously, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
it's got a little label here, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
which says, "Indian Temple - W Parker." | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
And it is dated 1881. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Obviously, we don't know who W Parker is. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
Did he ever go to India? | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Or was this something that he perhaps copied | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
from a lithographic print of the time, maybe in a magazine? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
Or maybe it is a complete fantasy. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
I suspect that it probably is a fantasy, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
I think had it been an actual replica of a temple, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
he probably would have taken the trouble | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
to have written on the front of it where it was. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
What do you think of it, do you like it? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
I think it is absolutely stunning. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
I've never seen anything like it, it is just beautiful. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Are you both of that opinion? | 0:18:26 | 0:18:27 | |
Yes, especially the attention to detail. It is unbelievable. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Well, I actually really like dioramas | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
and I've actually got a number of them at home. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
They are often made out of all sorts of different things. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
It is a three-dimensional picture that's made in this box frame. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
He's actually made it out of... | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
A lot of these things would have been commercially available. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Like the buildings are actually... | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
appear to be made of an artist's card, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
and then these little lithographic scraps, again, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
probably made in Germany. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
And you cannot imagine the amount of work | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
that has obviously gone into making this. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
He obviously spent several nights at it. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
He's got all these little palm trees here, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
made from little natural plants and moss. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
It has got a little bit of damage, you can see over here, for instance, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
some of the pillars have fallen down. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
So I think it perhaps needs somebody with a little bit of patience, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
perhaps to just try and put that back together. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
But it is a lovely thing. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Very desirable. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
If it were to come up for auction, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
I think you would be looking at a figure, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
somewhere in the region of £400-£600. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
-Wow! -Gosh! | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
Hanbury Hall, where we are today, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
was built, or completed, in 1708, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
which is a reasonable time ago now. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
You have brought me in a book that was published in 1546, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
so it is quite an antique piece. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Well, it belonged to my grandfather, who was a doctor. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
My father was a doctor, I'm a doctor, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
and now my daughter is just in the early part of her training, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
so we are all doctors in the family, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
so this feels like a special thing for us. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
It's a general book on anatomy, from 1546, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:08 | |
written by a chap called Charles Estienne. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
He came from a family of French printers, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
publishers and authors as well. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
He was around in about 1504 to 1560-odd, something like that. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
He became the royal printer | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
and this is his work on "La dissection des parties du corps", | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
so "on dissection of the parts of the body". | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Are you a surgeon, or what are you? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
-I'm a GP. -OK. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
I don't do much dissection these days. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
You don't, OK. The key part about this book is that it is illustrated | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
with wonderful woodcut illustrations. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
And if we just turn to one here, for example. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
So this is a beautiful skeleton of, you know, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
showing the body with a lovely background, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
with all the different key points to it. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
You know them all, I wouldn't know one end of a body from another, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
frankly. So that's the skeletal side of things. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And then here we have the body, again, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
with a sort of rather flamboyant background. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
And then opening it up again to another example | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
of where we've got the skeleton counterposed | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
with the sort of, what's this, the musculature. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Yes, all the muscles, isn't it? | 0:21:19 | 0:21:20 | |
It almost looks like a Michelangelo, doesn't it? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
All the muscles delineated. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
I think they are mostly accurate. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
Again, you can tell me whether they are accurate enough. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
-It is pretty good. -It's in lovely condition | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
and it's got some value to collectors, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
probably most of whom would be medical people, but not necessarily. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
If it came up for auction, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
I think you'd be looking at certainly £8,000-£12,000. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
Oh, my gosh. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
Really? I had no idea. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
-Oh, right. -Really nice, thank you so much. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
Thank you very much, it is really interesting, thank you. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
First and most important, I see from the badge there, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I've got to wish you a happy birthday. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
-Yes, you have. -Very happy birthday. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
-Thank you very much. -So, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
what induced you to bring this tankard along on your birthday? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
We've had this in the family for ten years. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
My mum bought it at auction | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
and she was bidding against the dealer, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and she bidded up to £8,000 for it. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
And then afterwards, a dealer came up to her and said, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
"You know you have just bought a fake?" | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
She thinks it is Charles II. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
She's got a lot of silver | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
and she thought she recognised the hallmarks on it. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
But she's done some research since and she's found that, actually, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
I think in the late Victorians, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
they actually copied the Charles II stamp | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
to make the silverware look like it was from Charles II's era. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-Right. -So, now there's this mystery over the tankard. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
Is it Charles II or is it a fake? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
OK. Well, it's actually quite an intriguing one, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
and it has taken me a little while thinking about it | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
-to work out just what has happened here. -OK. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
It started off, in my opinion, as a Charles II tankard. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
Then, in the Victorian period, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
the owner at that stage decided that they didn't want a tankard, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
-they wanted a jug. -OK. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
So, what they would have done | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
would have been to slice a V shape out of there | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
and literally solder on a spout. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
More recently, somebody must have acquired it, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
decided that it wasn't much good being a jug, it wasn't right. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
What they did at that stage was to remove the spout | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
and put in a plate of silver to cover where that had been. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
So what they would have done would have been | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
to actually remove the handle and move it around. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
To cover up the mark. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
To cover up. And we've got the evidence for that in here. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
If you look there, you can see this V-shape section. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
-Oh, yes. -So... | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
your mother paid? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
£8,000 for it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Right. I mean, it is probably outside the law. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
What do you mean, it's outside the law? | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Because it has been... | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
Because so much has been done to it. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-Oh, OK. -There are certain provisions for repair, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
-but this actually does go beyond ordinary repair. -Oh. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
Because you have new silver over there, new silver there, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
new silver there, where that sort of V section was added. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
And these sections are all new, and so on. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
So, today, assuming it could be sold, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:44 | |
with everything that has gone on there, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
I think we would be hard pushed to reach £1,000. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
So we were right, then. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
It was a fake. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
It is a heavily altered piece. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Right, OK. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
So, it is not that somebody | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
-has started from scratch to make one today. -Right, OK. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
They've started with a Charles II tankard | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
-and you can pick out the remains of it. -OK. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
And then they've got a bit carried away. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
We think it's lovely and we love it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
We think it is very beautiful. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
-That's great. -At least we now know the story, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and I've got to try and remember | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
everything you've just said about what's wrong with it. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Well, an autograph album. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:29 | |
Is it... Oh, Hilda Everett. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
Now, Hilda Everett was a painter at the Worcester factory, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
so this must be an autograph album for all the painters who were there | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
when she retired or some special occasion. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
And how did you come by it? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
I just found it when my grandad passed away. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
I just thought it was very nice. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
And your grandfather was...? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
Brian Clark, which was Hilda's son. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
Hilda's son. So, you are her great-grandson. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
So I'm her great-grandson. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Great. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
She was a wonderful painter and this is her album. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
When painters left the factory, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
the painters used to gather together and do an autograph book. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
I've got my own. It is not as fine as this one. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
This is beautiful. And there are autographs in here, too. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
This is the Australian cricket team in 1934 | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
with Don Bradman. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
The Australian cricket team used to tour the factory. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
I took them round one year. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
They used to sign their names for everybody in the factory. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
Here they are. That's a rather valuable little signature. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
But it is these paintings. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
This is by Ted Townsend | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
with a gorgeous little dog carrying a duck. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
They are all there, good Lord. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
And that's Kitty Blake. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
And they are wonderful. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Aren't they gorgeous things? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
Is it going to go through the family? | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Yes, I think so. It will go to my daughter. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Oh, yes. This is yours. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
How lovely! So, she is going to be the prize inheritor of this? | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
-Yes. -I think it is absolutely wonderful. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Some of these autograph books have fetched a lot of money. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
One went, a couple years ago, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
to £10,000 with very fine paintings in them. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
In value, I suppose you've got to think in terms | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
of two or three or more thousand pounds. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
I think it is absolutely beautiful. Look after it. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
Our impostor this week is not some modern piece of repro, oh, no. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
Take a look at these four Greek vessels, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
which conjure up Greek antiquity. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
In actual fact, our impostor is the only one that is 2,000 years old. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
Three of them are much more recent. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
All of these belong to | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
our miscellaneous specialist, Mark Allum. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Mark, this is just a small part of your collection. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
-How many have you got? -I have probably got about 30, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
but I haven't counted them recently, Fiona. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Right. Must be quite crowded in your house. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
-Yes, it is. -So, one is the genuine article, about 2,000 years old. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:20 | |
Over 2,000 years old, in fact. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
2,500 years old almost, perhaps. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
And then the other three? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
The other three range from the late 18th-century | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
through to the 19th-century. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
So you've got a bit of a spread there. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Here are some clues to help you decide. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
This encaustic-painted black basalt vase | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
bears a striking resemblance to Wedgwood's famous First Day vases. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
So, is it a Georgian piece | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
or is it the kind of truly ancient object | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
that would have inspired such a copy? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
This black and red figure wine jug show signs of age, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
but is this the result of thousands of years of handling? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Or has a Staffordshire potter just added some clever touches | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
to make it appear old? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
This vase looks to be a great age, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
but perhaps it's just trying too hard. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Is it is a work of fantasy, made to fool a Grand Tour tourist? | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
This elegant vase, depicting the classical myth of Leda and the Swan, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
looks as though it came from ancient Greece. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
But could it have been designed to capture the imagination | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
of the 19th-century British market? | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
Now, I had a chat to our visitors here beforehand. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Got differing views. But you are my partner in crime, I've decided. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
-And you think this one? -Yeah. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
This one. And so do I. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
So we are going to go with this. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
I'll tell you why. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
Also, I've picked your brains ruthlessly. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
This surely is far too pristine. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:41 | |
This - ditto. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
This has clearly had quite a lot of damage, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
because it looks like it's all been put back together again. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
All I was thinking was, the faces on this and this are so similar. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
This could be a double bluff, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:00 | |
because this obviously looks the most distressed. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
Yes? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
-We are going for this one. -You're going for the double bluff. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
So? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
-You are wrong. -Oh, no! LAUGHTER | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
We thought it was, didn't we? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
This is the one that is 2,500 years old. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
This has got so much damage, hasn't it? | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
-Yes. -It's got all sorts of cracks, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
where it has been put back together again. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
Whereas with this one, they've just gone to far too much trouble. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
There is actually no damage to this at all, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
but there's so much patination and ageing | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
and kind of overpainting. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
and bits and bobs that actually to get an ancient vase in this state, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
it's really had to go through the mill. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:39 | |
This, obviously, is the most valuable. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
So, what makes you think it's the most valuable? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Oh, crikey. Well, it has got to be, hasn't it? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-Because it's the oldest? -Yes. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
And the rarest. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
That's where you're totally wrong. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
On this table is one vase that is worth so much more | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
than all of the others, and it is that one. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
It is beautifully made, isn't it? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
And the reason it's worth so much more | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
is because, despite this being 2,500 years old, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
this one is made by Wedgwood | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
and this one was made in about 1780. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
That's one of my most treasured possessions, that vase. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
The one that I'd just dissed! | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
So, what value does this have? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
It's got some damage, the top is all nibbled around, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
and the lid has actually been broken. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
I've never worried about having it restored, | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
it doesn't worry me, it is as it is. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
But that's probably worth about £3,000-£5,000. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
Whereas this, 2,500 years old? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
£1,200-£1,800. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
Really? I find that astonishing. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
But that's so much rarer than this. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
So, even though this is the piece from ancient Greece, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
-this is the star of the collection. -Absolutely. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
So we've got this amazing house behind us | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
and what you've brought... We expect to see lovely things | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
and you've brought something | 0:31:56 | 0:31:58 | |
which looks like it's come out of the garden shed. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-That's cos it has, pretty much. -Has it? -Yes, yes. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
It belonged to my grandparents and they had a farm out towards Malvern | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
and they had to downsize for a number of reasons, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
and it basically got put in storage in a lean-to next to the house. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:16 | |
Basically, left to rot for a significant amount of time, | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
-and my dad took a shine to it. -Do you know where they got it from? | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
I've no idea. No, I have no idea where it came from. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
I think it's been in the family for a long time, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
but, as to where it came from, I really don't know. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
And so why did you bring it here today? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
People comment on it when they come into the house | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
and we just wanted to know more about it | 0:32:35 | 0:32:36 | |
so we've got more of a story to explain about it | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
because we enjoy looking at it, but we don't know much about it, really. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
Have you done research on what it is, what you think it is? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
On the internet, yes. We think it is from Dutch East India. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
I think it is late 17th century, maybe early 18th century. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
But it could, at the same time, be Victorian as well, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
because I think the style | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
sort of came back into fashion at that point. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
It is one of those weird things, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
you know, when you get close, but you can't quite work it out. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
And I was looking at this earlier and it is a tricky one to work out. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
This style was originally thought to be an Elizabethan chair. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
Horace Walpole, the son of Robert Walpole, lived at Strawberry Hill | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
and loved this sort of furniture. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
And they all thought, because basically he collected it, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
that it was what we call the Elizabethan chair. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
Not correct. That pretty much lasted up until the mid-19th-century. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
So, then it became hugely fashionable. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Then what happens when something becomes hugely fashionable? | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
-People make copies. -Exactly. -Yeah. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
This style of chair is from Ceylon or sort of Batavia/Coromandel Coast. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
And on here, you can see imagery of sort of bursting pomegranates | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
and then stylised tulips, so I think your Dutch connection | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
is actually brilliant | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
-because I think this was potentially made for the Dutch market. -Sure. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
The downside is I think it is a 19th-century copy. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:03 | |
-OK. -Which does make a big difference in what people collect. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:10 | |
So, your piece of furniture, which you dragged out of the shed, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:15 | |
which obviously has the cat sleeping on it, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
I think is worth £2,000-£3000. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
-Wow! -That's still significant for a copy, isn't it? | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
It's so collectable, this furniture, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
and I think this market is only going one way. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Have you ever been to the railway station at Braintree in Essex? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
No, I haven't. Never. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Never. And did you know that this was Braintree? | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
-I didn't actually, no. -This is just | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
the most extraordinary, brilliant design. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
You really feel the railway station has just been placed | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
in this very simple green landscape. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
And of course, it's by a real sort of powerhouse, an amazing artist, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Edward Bawden, who was one of the great designers, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
illustrators and artists from the 20th century. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
Tell me, where did it come from? | 0:35:02 | 0:35:03 | |
It was actually given to my parents as a wedding present in 1961, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
which is the same date on the actual label | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
on the reverse of the painting. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
There is a Zwemmer Galleries label on the back, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
and what's interesting about that | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
is that the Zwemmer Galleries had a great relationship with Bawden | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
and gave him his first major show in 1934. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
So, here we have what seems to be a very simple design, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:30 | |
but, of course, it is very, very sophisticated | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
and he's really focused on the architecture of the railway station. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
This is a very modern image from 1961 | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
and, of course, you are looking at a diesel train. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
Hardly any human element to this print at all, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
apart from the rather humorous driver in the front. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
And the diesel train would be replacing steam, of course, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
so it would be very much a modern statement from Bawden. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
He would have known this railway station, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
because when he was a student | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
going down to Liverpool Street train station | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
from Braintree as a student, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
he would use the station a great deal. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
So, have you done your own research? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:09 | |
Do you know anything about Edward Bawden? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
I did actually look it up on the internet, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
where I actually found a picture exactly like this. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
I took the picture down and had a look on the back | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
and it actually said number one, as the first purchaser, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
and that is when I found out it was by Edward Bawden. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
So, apart from being a great designer, watercolourist, painter, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
he was also a great printer, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
and this is a linocut print | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
and these sort of prints have become very, very popular. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
And the artist would carve out the design with a sharp implement | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
and, on the surfaces that haven't been carved out, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
ink would be applied | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
and then the paper would be pressed against that. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
And, in some instances, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
artists would use several pieces of linoleum to make this design. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
Of course, you are only really looking at three or four colours. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
We come to value. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
Now, value is quite complicated with this print | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
because a print like this should be signed. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
Now, we're not going to take this print out of its frame, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
purely cos the paper is touching the glass. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
-So, there's a further journey with this picture. -Yes. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Without a signature, it is certainly worth £2,000-£3,000. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
-Nice. -Now, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
if a conservator can put that right | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
and not damage the surface of the print and take it out easily, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
and on the lower right hand corner, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
or lower left, there is a signature by Bawden, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
then it's worth three or four times that. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
It is worth 6,000-8,000, possibly even £7,000-£10,000. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
You know, you've got the Zwemmer Gallery's provenance, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
you've got a fantastic image | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
by a great British designer from the 20th century. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
I hope that we can prove that there is a signature under there, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
there should be, and that it's not trimmed, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
and that it can be conserved and then it will be a perfect story. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
It's nice to know, thank you very much. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
So, we have two sets of medals here | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
and two portrait photographs. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
Who do these medals belong to? | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Well, the medals at the top belong to my father. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
The medals underneath belong to my mother. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
And my father was a submarine captain, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
HMS Tribune, and he was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, DSC, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:23 | |
for skill and bravery in the Mediterranean | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
which included sinking ships | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
designed to supply Rommel in North Africa | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
during the North African campaign. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
He told me that it was extremely dangerous. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Only one in five of his friends and colleagues | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
who started the war survived. And he had his fortune told twice, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
once in Egypt and once in Singapore, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
and they both told him the same thing. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
They told him that he would survive the war and live to a ripe old age, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
and he did. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
He had a particularly interesting career, as it were, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
because he wasn't just in a submarine in the Mediterranean, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
he had another job with his submarine. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
What did he do with his submarine? | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
Well, in early, very early 1943, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
he transported from SOE - the Special Operations Executive - | 0:39:07 | 0:39:13 | |
Algiers' French section, three agents, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
and he dropped them off on the beach of occupied Corsica at night | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
and these three agents were designated | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
to co-ordinate all the French Resistance efforts in Corsica. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:31 | |
Sadly, though, a double agent in SOE HQ had betrayed them | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
and two out of three of them never came back. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
So, we are really in that clandestine world | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
of the dark side of World War II, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
where we are landing people on beaches from rubber dinghies | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
and going off, sabotage and infiltrating the German area | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
behind the lines, as it were, so an incredibly dangerous job. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
Well, my mother was... | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
At the beginning of the war, | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
she was actually commissioned into the First Aid Nursing Yeomanry, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
the FANYs - F-A-N-Y. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
And somebody in military intelligence | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
discovered that she spoke fluent French. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
So she was then transferred to the Special Operations Executive, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
the SOE, where she spent most of the war | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
commissioning, despatching and operating agents, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
SOE agents and French Resistance fighters, in occupied Corsica. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
That was her station. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
A couple of months later, they met in Algiers | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
when Dad's submarine, HMS Tribune, was restocking and refuelling | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
and fell for each other, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
and, within five days, they were engaged to be married. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
And it's incredible to think | 0:40:39 | 0:40:40 | |
that they celebrated their engagement by having a picnic | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
on a beach just outside Algiers, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
watching SOE agents training to blow up railway lines. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
Your father, he has a beautiful set of campaign medals, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
the 39-45 Star, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Atlantic Star, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:57 | |
Africa, with North Africa bar. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
And then Burma, as well, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
and with a Pacific bar, showing that he moved on to the Far East as well. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
And a mention in dispatches | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
and then Her Majesty's Coronation Medal from 1953. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
But Mum has a superb set of medals as well, doesn't she? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
The one on the right here | 0:41:14 | 0:41:15 | |
is the French La Medaille De La Reconnaissance, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
the medal of recognition, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
also known as the medal of gratitude, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
and this was awarded by the provisional French government | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
and presented to her by General Charles de Gaulle himself, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
and that's actually on the citation. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
We have two sets of medals, therefore, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
which are very interesting from a World War II perspective, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
because they take us to that dark side of World War II, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
to that shadow world of secret agents. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
And, because of that, they have an amount of value. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
I could certainly see these making somewhere between £4,000-£6,000. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
-Oh, goodness. -So, they are quite a good set of medals. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Well, the most important point is that we in the family | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
are extremely proud of what they did for us | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
and for the country during the war. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
Well, this is a proper box of joy. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
There are so many little interesting things in here. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
I don't know where to start. How did you come by all this lot? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Well, most of them I bought in the 1970s, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
and I always sort of try to buy unusual things, | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
like these two here. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
Things I've never seen before and things I like, basically. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
Well, I think you've done a great job. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
I wish I had opened a box like that | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
when I was mooching around looking for antiques. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
I won't go through every single item, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
but there's a few great favourites here. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
That's gorgeous, there's a little mid-18th-century needle case, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
or bodkin case, which is agate and gold. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
That's worth about £400-£500. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Little Russian box - again, in perfect condition. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
That's gone up and up and up since the 1970s. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
£400-£500 comfortably. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Do you know what these are? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
I presume they are commemorative medallions. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
Yes, you're right. That's quite a scarce one, that's Charles II, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
showing your royalist sympathy. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
That's Charles I. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
That one is worth about 200-300. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
-That one is worth about 700-800. -Gosh! | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
Yeah. And then you've got a group of gold seals. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
My favourite, by a country mile, is that one. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
-Why is that? -That's 17th century. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
-About 1670, 1680. -Wow! | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
These are worth sort of £300-£400 each. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
That's worth all of that. If it belongs to somebody interesting, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
comfortably £1,000. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
-That's amazing. -It's better than the gold ones, isn't it? | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
Yes, the gold ones can go. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:43:32 | 0:43:33 | |
And then you've got a Marius Hammer Norwegian enamelled salt cellar, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
which is glorious. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
Beautiful little treasure of a thing. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
That's £200-£300 again. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
I congratulate you on your hunting skills, sir, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
I wish I had found all this lot mooching around antique fairs. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
I would be very pleased with myself. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
I've enjoyed owning them. I really have. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
You know, I seem to both live and work in a very small world, | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
because we have one person | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
who is very much a person we have in common, is that right? | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
Yes, we do indeed. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
And would you like to name that man? | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
-It's Henry Sandon. -Henry Sandon. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
When you think of Worcester porcelain, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
-you think of Henry Sandon. -Yes. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
But you also have a very strong affinity | 0:44:15 | 0:44:20 | |
with the Worcester porcelain works because you were... | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
I was a paintress for 30 years. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
Now, you said "paintress". | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
So, you're happy to be called a paintress? | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
That's what they used to call us in the old days. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
Right. Here you are, decorating. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
You are hand-painting. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
Yes, everything was hand-painted. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
I mean, this is your album, | 0:44:37 | 0:44:38 | |
and this is all hand-decorated, and then it is fired on porcelain. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:44 | |
And if we look inside, I think, if I can do this, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
there's the man himself. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:50 | |
He hasn't changed a bit, has he? | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
He was born looking 90. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
-Aww! -That's why. -LAUGHTER | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Bless him. So, you've brought along another example of your work | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
and I love your dish. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:04 | |
How long would it take you to paint something like that? | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
Oh, quite a few hours. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
It is three fires. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
You do a first fire and then you do your second and your third, | 0:45:10 | 0:45:15 | |
so you don't just put it all on in one go. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:17 | |
I mean, you also were painting birds as well, I can see. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
That's what you started off on, you know, when you were an apprentice. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:25 | |
You did the Dorothy Doughty birds and the days of the week | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
and things like that, you see, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
and then you gradually worked your way up | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
and then I started on the Victorian figurines there. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
And the book, dare I say, by the man himself. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
And has he signed that for you? | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
-Yes. -I'm not surprised. -He signed it a long time ago. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Yes, I've yet to find a copy he hasn't signed. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
That's why I say that. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:47 | |
I notice also you've got this big white figure here. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:51 | |
Bless me, I mean, she's been through the wars. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
I've noticed actually that your birds have been a bit bashed. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
Do you live with a cat or something? | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
They are rejects, they were rejects when I had them. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
-Oh, they were rejects. -So they're not exactly stable to begin with. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:04 | |
You know, things can drop off them. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:06 | |
I don't necessarily break them myself. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:08 | |
Oh, you don't. It's not really for me to say | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
what these things are worth because this is your lifetime's archive. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
It's testament to the skill | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
and the pride that was taken in Worcester porcelain. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
Just one more question - are you a Taurus? | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
I'm Sagittarius. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:28 | |
It would have suited me for you to be a bull in a china shop. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
When you came to my table with this box | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
and when I opened it to reveal | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
this elegant jewel, it was a real, real pleasure. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
How did you first come to have this? | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
Well, let's think. Many, many years, 40-odd years plus... | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
We had a very bad car accident | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
and Anita looked after the property we were in wonderfully | 0:47:13 | 0:47:17 | |
and I just bought it for her | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
as a thank-you for looking after everything. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
The first thing you thought was a jewel because you love jewellery? | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
-Yes. -Yes, a lovely lady deserves lovely jewellery. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
Quite right. So, then you bought it. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
You took it home and you thought, "How am I going to give this or...?" | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
It was coming up to Easter | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
so I put it in a chocolate Easter egg, wrapped it all back up again... | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
You put this in a chocolate Easter egg? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
Yes. Re-wrapped it. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:46 | |
With the foil over the top as well? | 0:47:46 | 0:47:48 | |
-Yes, gold foil. -And back in the box? | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
And back in the box. I gave it to my wife, and what did you say? | 0:47:50 | 0:47:54 | |
Well, I had decided to go on a diet, yet another diet. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:58 | |
We always go on diets at Easter time. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
So I said, "Oh, it's lovely of you," | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
but really I didn't want to have any more Easter eggs | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
or chocolate because of the diet. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:09 | |
He said, "Well, just try one." | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
So I did try one. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
And then out tumbled this and it was... | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
It really just took me back for a while. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
I couldn't quite believe it. I thought, "Gosh, | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
"what giveaways they give with Easter eggs nowadays!" | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
You probably thought it wasn't real, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
-to start with. -I was very lucky indeed. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
I just think that is such a splendid, splendid story. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
And, not only that, it is a splendid jewel and an elegant jewel. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
It's quintessentially English. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
It's round about 1895-1900. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:45 | |
It's 15 carat gold. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
What you're looking for in an opal is a lovely splash of colour. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
It's like an artist with a palette | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
and brush strokes of different colours | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
and the reds and the oranges and the blues and the greens. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
These really do have that magical look to them. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
-They're delicate. -Yes. It is, that's why it's so elegant. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
-Isn't it? -You've got here the cushion-shaped diamonds. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
-Right. -They are on these very fine wire little links there. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:20 | |
It really is making the stone stand out and not the gold. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:25 | |
The gold is there to facilitate the stones. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
I mean, the value... | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
In an auction, you're probably going to be looking | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
in the region of £3,000-£5,000. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
Lovely. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:37 | |
I don't think I'll be parting with it, though. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
I should hope not! I should hope not and I hope you're going to wear it | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
-and enjoy it. -Yes, indeed. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
-And well done, sir. -Thank you. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Napoleon. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
I'll put my cards on the table. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
I'm more of a Wellington man, I'm afraid. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
He abandoned armies across the world. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
The flower of French youth - | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
not a fan, despite what modern historians say, | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
and they're saying it a lot. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:03 | |
This sketch purports to have been done | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
-of Napoleon on his deathbed on 6th May 18... -21. -21. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:13 | |
Thank you very much. This was done on the island of St Helena. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
-It was. -By whom? | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
It was done by Ensign Ward of the 66th Regiment. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
He was out there guarding the Emperor and guarding St Helena. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
-Or guarding the Emperor from going back to France. -Yes, indeed. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
That was the thing the English were absolutely terrified of, | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
-wasn't it? -They were. -How did you get it? | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
Are you related to Ensign Ward? | 0:50:35 | 0:50:37 | |
No, I'm not. I got it from my grandfather, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
who was a doctor of divinity at Oxford. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
My guess is that he acquired it in the 19th century, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
not terribly long, maybe 40 or 50 years after the letter was written. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
As with many things, it's a bit like relics of saints. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:56 | |
There are several St Peter's fingers | 0:50:56 | 0:50:57 | |
and however many other body parts there are of various saints. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
There is so much to do with Napoleon that is apocryphal | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
and we're not absolutely sure if it is right. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
So everything depends on the provenance of this. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
Now, I rather like this letter that's with it. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
We'll just read a little bit out. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:14 | |
"The face had a remarkably placid expression | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
"and indicated mildness and sweetness of disposition." | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
He got that wrong, didn't he? | 0:51:21 | 0:51:22 | |
Absolutely! He was a villain. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
I think so, too. I'm so glad you agree. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
"Those who gazed upon the features | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
"as they lay in the still repose of death | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
"could not help exclaiming, 'How beautiful!' " | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
-I don't think so. -I think it might have been written by a Frenchman. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Well, I think when he died, there was this sense | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
that Napoleon had been a great man | 0:51:42 | 0:51:44 | |
and people forgave him his sins in death. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
Do you think that he actually sat down | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
and did exactly that drawing in front of Napoleon? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
I'm pretty hopeful that he did. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
I'm confident in the paper because the paper has little blotches on it | 0:51:55 | 0:51:59 | |
that you get from paper at that time. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
I have some other drawings in my family of that period | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
and I know that's what happens to the paper. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
The letter itself would seem to be genuine. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
He had this very interesting little perspective | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
that he made a drawing of Napoleon within 24 hours of Napoleon dying. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
Well, I quite like your case, actually. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
I don't see any reason to doubt it. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
-Good, thank you. -Of course, these things | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
are usually guilty until proven innocent. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
-Yes. -That's the only thing we've got to remember. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
That is about as good a case as I've ever heard | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
for anything to do with Napoleon. So, what is this worth? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
I'm going to put a tentative £2,000-£3,000 on it. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
That's very generous of you. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:41 | |
I'll sell it to you for that! | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
I don't want it! | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
There are lots of people out there who do, though. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
If people agree with you that it is actually real | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
and that Ensign Ward sat down and did that from his corpse, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
then that picture is the sort of thing | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
that has the cache to make a really big sum. | 0:52:57 | 0:53:01 | |
Right, ladies and gentlemen, before I get going, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
I want to ask you a question. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
What happened at the British Museum in 1972? | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
What was at the British Museum in 1972? | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
-Tutankhamen. Tutankhamen. -Tutankhamen! | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
This is almost as old. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:17 | |
It is 2,500 years old and by miles the earliest piece of glass | 0:53:17 | 0:53:24 | |
I have ever handled in my life. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
Well, tell us about it in your life. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
Well, I was at this auction and I saw the item. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
It took my interest. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
I was very interested in the patterns. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
It was described as possibly being Roman | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
so I ventured to buy it. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
Subsequently, here it is! | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
OK, so this is Greek, so it's pre-Roman. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
It's Hellenistic. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
The most remarkable thing about this | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
is that every piece of glass in everybody's home is blown. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
This is pre-blowing. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:00 | |
Glass-blowing was created, was invented | 0:54:00 | 0:54:03 | |
about 50 years before the birth of Christ. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
50 BC is glass-blowing. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
This is 1,000 years earlier than the first blown glass. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
-Wow! -The way they made these is they core-formed them. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
What you did - and you won't believe this, but it's completely true - | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
what they did was they went out and collected donkey poo... | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
They did! They collected donkey and camel poo | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
and they formed it into a core. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
The core would be exactly the shape of the inside of this. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:37 | |
Then they put the core on a stick | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
and wrapped the glass around the core. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:44 | |
And when it was fully formed, | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
they allowed it to cool and then you put this in water | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
and the water was taken in by this friable material, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:56 | |
which then you could pick out the poo with... | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
It was one of the big jobs of the time! | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
Then you would get a stylus. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
The glass was still malleable and you drag it down here | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
to create this herringbone. This is a very beautiful, pretty example. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:14 | |
It has, actually, at one time in its life, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
been hit by a missile and somebody has very carefully restored it. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
There must be ten pieces of this, but it has been expertly restored. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
You need to find out where it has been. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
Do you not know the previous owner? | 0:55:28 | 0:55:30 | |
Have you not done any research on this? | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
Yes, I had the auctioneer send the owner a letter. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
She got in touch with me and said it belonged in her collection | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
with her husband in the 1960s, early '60s. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
That's very, very good news for you. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
Do you know why? | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
There are incredibly strict criminal laws | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
that apply to objects that could have been nicked out of tombs. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:56 | |
These were burial objects. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
This is an amphora that would have been placed | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
in order to accompany the deceased into the next life. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
If you can't prove that it has a certified provenance, | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
you know what? | 0:56:10 | 0:56:12 | |
It's a criminal offence to sell it. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
It's totally an illegal object, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
but the fact that you wrote to that owner | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
meant that your 150 quid purchase... | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
-2,000 quid. -No! | 0:56:26 | 0:56:28 | |
That's... That's a bit of money in the bank, isn't it? | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
I tell you what, people say at the end of recordings, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
"Thanks for bringing it in." But, boy, do I mean it! | 0:56:35 | 0:56:37 | |
This is just so brilliant of you to bring it in! | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
This is... What a gem! | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
-A total gem. -Lovely. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
Well, how about that? | 0:56:47 | 0:56:48 | |
The oldest glass that Andy McConnell has ever seen. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:53 | |
Do you remember how, at the beginning of the programme, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
we were talking about the link | 0:56:55 | 0:56:56 | |
between Hanbury Hall and The Archers - | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
how Hanbury Hall might have been the basis for Lower Loxley? | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
Well, we thought some Archers memorabilia might come along | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
and, sure enough, it has. Have a look at this. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
Meet The Archers - | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
the original cast, lots of photographs and all signed. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
As we go along, Doris Archer | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
and, look, Grace Fairbrother, who was, of course, Ysanne Churchman. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
It caused a right old hoo-ha when she died. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:22 | |
It lists here, "Likes - sea and bathing, sun, sand, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:27 | |
"cats and iced coffee." | 0:57:27 | 0:57:30 | |
Fantastic! | 0:57:30 | 0:57:31 | |
From Hanbury Hall - or Lower Loxley - | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 | |
and all the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:36 |