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This is a relaxing way to start the roadshow. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Rolling hills, woodland, the lake. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
You'd think I was miles away from the noise | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and crowds of a city. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
But in fact, Stoke-on-Trent, is just over there. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
The industrial metropolis, home of the Potteries. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
And I'm in Trentham Gardens for this week's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Trentham has always been the perfect place to get away from it all. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
In the mid-19th-century it was a playground for the | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
rich and powerful. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
It's owner, the Duke of Sutherland spared no expense improving | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
the great house, Trentham Hall, and the expansive gardens. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
He loved inviting influential and celebrated people | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
to come and appreciate it. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
The lake was designed by Capability Brown | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
as the centrepiece of Trentham. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
The River Trent was dammed to supply water to the lake | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
and the gardens and at the time it seemed ingenious, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
but it proved to have disastrous consequences. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
By the 1850s, the gardens were among | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
the most celebrated in the country. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
But just 20 years later, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
this paradise was lost. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
In the latter half of the 19th century, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
the potteries of Stoke-on-Trent were booming. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
There were around 2,000 bottle kilns creating a permanent | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
fog of smoke over the city. The population was also growing. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
The area's waterways, including the River Trent, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
became heavily polluted. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
And the lake, like the river, was a virtual cesspit. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
The shine had well and truly gone off this once impressive estate. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Unable to find a solution, the Duke and Duchess of Sutherland | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
moved away to a more fragrant environment, no doubt. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
And as for Trentham Hall, it was demolished in 1911. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
And this... | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
..is all that's left. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
Thankfully, the good times have returned. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
The lake has been restored to its former glory | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
and the gardens which, for years, were lost beneath weeds | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
and overgrowth have, over a decade, been redesigned and look at them! | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
They're glorious. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
Let's hope our experts are just as good at uncovering great | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
finds at today's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
I gather you've come a long way to be here today? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
-I have, I've come all the way from New Zealand. -Oh, right. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
-And you brought this in your hand luggage then? -I did. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
-Where did it come from? -I got it from a charity shop in Taupo, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
-which is central North Island, about two years ago. -And how much for? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
-50 cents. 50 New Zealand cents which is about 22 pence. -OK. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
So what do you think you've got? | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
I think I might have got a little French pot, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-which may or may not be a fake. -Right. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
It is a problem with these | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
because fakes absolutely abound | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
of this type of porcelain. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
A little pot from the Sevres. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
Or is it? Let's have a look. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
-A toilet pot, from a cosmetics and dressing table. -Right. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
And a little lid, | 0:03:57 | 0:03:58 | |
you lift the top off with a pretty flower and underneath | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
there is the maker's mark and that is really quite a famous sign | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
and that's what, you spotted that in the shop, did you? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
-No, no, I didn't. -Well, the mark is the Sevres factory mark, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
the monogram of the King Louis XV cipher with | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
a letter in the middle which is a date code. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
-And letter R should be 1770. -Right. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-So that's when this should have been made. -Should've been, right. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
If it's the real thing and, well, it's got lots of clues. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:31 | |
And that's the useful thing because all the workmen who made it | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
put their signs on it. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
When it was being produced, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
the potter who made the basic shape on the wheel scratched | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
in some little initials, you can just see a little scribble there, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
-that's the potter's mark. -Right. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
And then when it was hung up in the kiln, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
they drilled a little hole in the foot rim | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
and hung it up in the kiln | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
and then you've got the painter. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
The little shape above the mark, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
that's the sign of Noel, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
a painter who specialised in copies | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
-of textile patterns. -Oh, right. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
And that's what you've got here. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
So, it all adds up and what you found is the real thing. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
So, made at the Sevres Factory | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
in France in 1770, a special piece of porcelain, probably | 0:05:13 | 0:05:19 | |
there was a little set of these on a dressing table in a very grand home | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
or palace and for 50 cents. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
Great, isn't it? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
So, this is enough to pay for your flight over here, wonders. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
It could be because that little pot's worth £1,000. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
That is wonderful. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I didn't want to pay for 50 to have a valuation | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
but I thought I'd pay for a plane ticket and come to the roadshow. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
It's wonderful, wonderful news! | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Now, you've brought along a brooch, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
fashioned as two wings | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
with a bit of blue, and a couple of letters in the middle. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
And before we get on to the brooch itself, I'd like you to tell me | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
when you got it and where you got it. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
It was bought in Wales when I was on holiday in 2006 at a car boot. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
And what drew you to it particularly, do you think? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
Well, I thought at first, cos I never had my glasses on, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
it was an RAF brooch of silver and marcasite. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Yes, which were made in quite large numbers. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-You buy the thing for how much? -£20. -£20. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Took it home with you, then what did you do with it? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Well, I noticed it had got the England | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
and Australia on it, plus the initials in the middle, CCW. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
And I thought it was unusual and that it might be something to | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
do with the flight Australia to England with Amy Johnson. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
Now, you, then, I think, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-did a little bit of homework, didn't you? -Yes. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
And you've actually come up with a photograph of one of the most | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
famous British women of her day. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
There she is dressed wearing | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
a brooch which is | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
remarkably similar to that | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
particular one. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:09 | |
All right, well let me tell you as much as I can about it. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
First of all, silver and marcasite, no. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Platinum and diamond. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
The brooch is fashioned in the form of two outstretched wings | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
with a little wreath of diamonds in the centre | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
and then, very crucially, you have | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
this monogram in the middle | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
because the monogram is actually | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
a man who was called | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
Charles Chippers Wakefield and he | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
sponsored this extraordinary woman | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
when she decided that she was going to fly Gypsy Moth | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
between this country and Australia as a solo voyage. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:55 | |
People didn't do that in those days. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
So that's why I can feel confident that, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
not only have we got the photograph | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
of her wearing it, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
but you've also got the brooch | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
with the CCW monogram | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
in the middle and then to augment it, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
to really ram the point home, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
you've got the countries as well. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
Question - how on earth did this brooch finish up | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
in a car boot in Wales? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
Well, she used to fly in Wales on the beach, practise to fly. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:27 | |
Oh, so was it possible then that she lost it | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
and it was picked up by someone? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Well, she did pawn some of her jewellery up in Wales to | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
sponsor her yachting lessons. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
So she may have pawned that brooch | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
-to pay for her... -Lessons. -Right, OK. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
-She wasn't a wealthy woman. -OK. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
£20 brooch, car-boot sale... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
..£3,000. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
-CROWD GASPS -Oh, right. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
What an absolutely fantastic | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
piece of jewellery to bring onto | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
the roadshow. I'm absolutely thrilled. Thank you very much. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
-Thank you very much. -You're welcome. -Thank you. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
I love a leather box and a leather box that actually says, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
"Lady Armstrong, Cragside." | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
Cragside, that fantastic house in | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
the middle of Northumberland, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
one of the great stately homes. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
What is your relationship with | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
-Cragside? -Absolutely none, directly. -OK. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
My interest is in collecting old maps of the canals | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and the canal system but when I saw this in a shop for sale, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
I just took a fancy to it and thought, "I've got to have that." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
Wow! | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
Isn't that amazing? | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
OK, well, let me just try and work out | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
what it is that we've got here. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
There are knobs. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
What does that...? Oh, OK, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
-so that rolls the map... -That's right. -..backwards and forwards. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
This is absolutely remarkable. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Oh, and actually, here we've got Northumberland, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
there's Cragside here. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
Yes, we've got Rothbury and Cragside. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
And Cragside is actually there, that's the site of the house. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
And moving across into the middle of the North Sea then, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
you've got this fabulous key to the maps. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
The red ones, "first-class roads." | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
The red and white dotted are "secondary" | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
and the one down from that is "indifferent but still passable." | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
-LAUGHS: -That's great, isn't it? -Brilliant. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
So, I'm picturing the scene of Lady Armstrong | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
on some wonderful journey through England with her driver, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:45 | |
perhaps in her Rolls-Royce, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and as they go through the country, | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
so the map scrolls down. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
I mean, it is an early form of Sat Nav. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Turn it over... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:00 | |
-..and there's a compartment here. -Two little clips. -Two clips. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
And look at that! | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Here you have these rolls then, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
that fit into the machine that covers the whole of | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
England and Wales, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
made by Bartholomew's, who are perhaps | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
the best makers of maps. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Date-wise, we're talking about the 1920s. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
I mean, the only thing that I suppose I'm surprised about is | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
that actually it's a painted case and I would have assumed | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
actually it would be a mahogany case rather than painted. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
-How long ago did you buy it? -Getting on for ten years ago now. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
-And you paid what for it then? -I paid £150. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
-Which was a reasonable sum. -I thought so at the time. -Yes, sure. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
I think the market has moved on since then, over the last ten years. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
And a quirky object like this to the right buyer, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
that is the owner of a 1920s Rolls-Royce or Bentley, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
they would pay between £800 and £1,200 for it. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Really? Oh, very good. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Do you have a prized object from the golden age of travel? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Glamorous luggage? Beautifully crafted car mascots? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
Perhaps a menu from the maiden voyage of a famous ship? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Antiques Roadshow is planning a special edition | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
and we're looking for outstanding stories that celebrate | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
the era of luxury ocean-going liners, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
the early days of air travel, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
classic cars and of course the steam age. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
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We'll be recording an episode on board the magnificent | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Flying Scotsman later this year. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
To book your seat, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
tell us your story by contacting... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
When I first saw this, I thought, "What the heck is it?" | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
We've got what looks like a diary in nice Morocco leather, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
solid silver, but then when we come to flip it over, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
magically it turns into a golf scoring card, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
which as far as silver items go, I've never seen one. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
So that says, "The North Staffs Colliery Owners Rescue Team." | 0:13:07 | 0:13:13 | |
And so, I imagine that that is on the end of that watch chain. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
Well, I hope so, yes. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
I said, "Was this Granny's?" | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
She said, "No, she didn't play golf, but Grandpa did." | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-Is it feminine or masculine? -Well, I thought it was a bit girlie. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Yes, that's what I thought too. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
-Because I thought that might hang on a belt... -Yeah, like a chatelaine. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Yes, rather like a chatelaine. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
He was a member of the Colliery Rescue Team and there was a fire | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
within the colliery stables and my grandfather went in, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
rescued these horses, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
and by undoing the chains to rescue the horses, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
he had severe burns on his hands. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
And he was a bit of a hero at the time. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Someone has specially commissioned that. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
You've got the golf club holder here, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
there's crossed golf clubs with a little golf ball | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
and then date, partner, played at, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
so you're keeping a record of your score and who you played with. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
A great story of bravery like that attached to it, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
and you've got the documentation, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
and you've even got a photograph of the original recipient of the medal. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
It's got to be worth 150 quid | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
rather than the £20 or £30 that it otherwise would be. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
That's very nice. Very nice for you. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I would happily say, comfortably, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
£600 to £800. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
-Really? -Oh, yeah, really. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
Oh, wow. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
I know the golfers are mad about memorabilia | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
but I didn't know they were that mad. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
They're mad, and they're mad about memorabilia. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
BELL CLANGS | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-Well, that sounded great, didn't it? -Yes, fantastic. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
You know there's a well-known newsreel that shows | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
a bell like this, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:47 | |
and written on it, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
written across it, it says, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
"Don't come and tell, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
"ring this like hell." | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
-And that's a Battle of Britain period newsreel. -Oh, right. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
And that's where it comes from, but where did you get it from? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
-Well, I purchased it with a deal that I did. -So you're a collector? | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Yeah. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:06 | |
And this is what people mostly know as a scramble bell, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
a Royal Air Force or RAF scramble bell. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
And if we look at it, it has this crown, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
that's George VI's crown and the letter AM, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
that's Air Ministry and the year, 1940. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Now, of course, 1940 was the time of the Battle of Britain | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and this brings back those images and those | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
black-and-white films of someone | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
ringing the bell, clang, clang, clang, clang, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
and those RAF fighter pilots leaping out of their armchairs, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:39 | |
out of their deckchairs, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
racing for their Spitfires and their Hurricanes. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
But which RAF station did this come from? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
I don't know exactly which one it was. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
I think it was somewhere in Lincolnshire, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
one of the airfields over there but I wish I did know | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
because it would make it much more interesting, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
if we knew which one it had come from. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
You know these were found at the guardroom... | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
..they were found at the station headquarters, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
they were found at the fire section, so there are a lot of bells | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
like this on every single RAF station at that period. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
That means there are a lot of bells. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
-So, to be truthful, they're not uncommon objects. -Right. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
However, having said that, they're actually quite desirable objects. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Something like this at auction today would certainly | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
make between £800 and £1,200. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
Oh, right. Good deal. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Yeah, I'm chuffed about that. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
Well, I must say that you're below the average age of an | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Antiques Roadshow visitor. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
So, tell us, why have you come along here today? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Well, I started collecting | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
silver when I was seven | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
and then I've branched out to glass | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
and I think it's absolutely wonderful, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
the colours and how it's made and the history behind it. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
Well, you're clearly a nutter, even at this fledgling age, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
so where do you get it from? Where's the spark that led you here? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Well, when I was seven, I was in an antique shop with my mother | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
and I just fell in love with antiques at that very moment | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
-and I kept going back and it's just taken off. -I did the same. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
My parents were part-time dealers and at the age of 12 I was going | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
out with my parents buying. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
And it was a question, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
you could sit in the car or you could go into the shop. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
And I got it big time, bad, you know and it's been with me ever since, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
that's 60 years I've been doing it. You know, welcome to the club. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
So tell us why you bought them. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
Well, I inherited those two pieces from my grandfather. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
This piece here reminded me of Loetz And Tiffany. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
These, I'm very keen on 18th-century design and the grapes, that's why... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:56 | |
-Fruiting vine, yeah. -Fruiting vine. -So what's the objective? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
What do you want to learn from this exercise? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Well, I really want to know more about the glass. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
I want to expand my knowledge. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
Well, I think that is | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
the cornerstone of what I'm going to tell you. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
You've basically come for advice, haven't you? | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
And my immediate reaction is you need to bone up a bit more. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
You've got to do some swotting. I think you've got to do more. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
This is disparate. There's no theme here. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Now, of course, the ones you inherited, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
1930s kind of little bonbon dishes, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
they would have had sugared almonds or mint imperials, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
it's that sort of thing, they're sort of a bit old fogey. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Then we have vine engraving. Now, these are historic revival. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
They're '30s, 1920s, '30s so they're not 18th-century, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
they're made in the manner of the 18th-century. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
So, you've got the two themes, you've got retro | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and this sort of iridescent stuff which is...but it's generic. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
So I've kind of beaten you up a bit, but this is tough love. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
You know, I'm just willing you to succeed. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
From my way of thinking, this is your prettiest piece. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
I think that's exactly where the market is, iridescence. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
It's nice, identifiably handmade stuff, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
that's, I think, your best buy. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
So look, we've heard where you've come from | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
so the point is really, the great point is, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
where does it go from here? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
What are you going to do with this? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Well, with this I'm looking to add to it | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
and maybe sell some pieces and buy better. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
-So you're a dealer in the making, really. -Yes, definitely. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
OK, so what sort of money are you parting for these? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
Ah, not very much. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
OK, well, how much did this pair cost you? | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
-Around £20. -20 quid. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
How much are you in for on this table? | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
50 quid is what you're in for, is it? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
-A bit more than that. -How much? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-100? -100 quid. I think you're going 50% too expensive. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
I want you to do well, please do well, please learn, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
but in the end you get there. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
-I tell you to know it is a fantastic pleasure, OK? -Yes. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
So look, boy, go get them, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
come back and see us again and shake it, and good luck on your hunt. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
-Thank you. -You're most welcome. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
We've got a painting of a vase. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Please tell me | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
you've got the vase as well. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
You have. And they match. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-Yes, they do, indeed. -So what's going on? | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
In 2006, the Burslem Festival had a competition | 0:20:30 | 0:20:36 | |
to design a vase, which Moorcroft would then make for the winners | 0:20:36 | 0:20:42 | |
and my daughter Caroline, I said she should enter | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
and the night before the deadline | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
finally she got round to designing, doing a few designs | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
and painting that picture. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
She was 17, she won the 17+ category | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
and they made the vase, which is a one-off. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
I think they've made a pretty good job of it, haven't they? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
-Yes, it is lovely. -What does your daughter do now? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
She's a graphic designer. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
She went to Glasgow School of Art | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and did an exchange while she was there | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
to the Pratt Institute in New York | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
and met someone who is now her husband. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
So, hence, as soon as she graduated, she went to New York. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
It's a fairytale in clay, isn't it? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
It is sort of all her dreams have come true. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
-So do you know who the artists are? -No, no. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Well, they've put their mark on the bottom. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
We've got HM there for Hayley Moore, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
who did the painting, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
and then MP for Marie Penkethman, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
and she did the tubelining | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
and Marie is one of the pre-eminent tubeliners at Moorcroft. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
You see how beautifully it is done. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
It's a great piece of Moorcroft. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
It's modern, as you say, it's 2006, and people might be saying, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
"What are we doing with a vase from 2006 on Antiques Roadshow?" | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
But I think it tells an amazing story, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
not just about the fact your daughter clearly has talent, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
but I think it tells the stories of the Potteries | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
and we are here in Stoke-on-Trent today and potteries have | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
always survived or not survived by the quality of their design. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
And even though this is a modern piece, if that and the | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
original drawing came to the market, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
it's going to make £1,000 to £1,500 at auction. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
-But, actually... -No, it's not really relevant. -It's not worth it, is it? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
-Mother's determination. -THEY LAUGH | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-I'll give you that back. -Thank you very much. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-I think you're very proud of that, aren't you? -Oh, yes, very. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
-I would be too. Thank you very much. -Thank you, thank you. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
This is a very striking picture of four people | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
and they've got such expressions on their faces. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
I see it's signed A Berry, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
which I know is Arthur Berry, the local artist here | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
and it's a lovely mixed media, actually. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It looks like watercolour and gouache. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
-And he's well known locally, isn't he? -Oh, absolutely. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
There are fans, passionate fans of Arthur Berry in the district. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
And he trained locally, didn't he? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Absolutely, he went to Burslem School of Art, where all | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
the young people went who were going to go into the | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
pottery industry as painters and designers | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
and he was offered then a place at the Royal College of Art. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
This is in the Second World War and developed from then on. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
And he really did, and you look at this | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
and he's developed his very distinctive style. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
And what does it mean to you? Is it nice to own? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
It's wonderful to own because it brings back | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
so much of Arthur's character, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
the humour that he saw around him | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
but also the grime, the poverty, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
the difficult lives people had. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
You certainly have it in this picture. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
And I think it's really interesting | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
cos I travel around with this programme and we were | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
up in Durham last year and we saw | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
the pit artists painting up there. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
You go to Salford, you've got Lowry | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and it's amazingly industrial regions and here we are | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
in Stoke-on-Trent and you have an artist who is | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
recording life as it is for the poor | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
and also for the fading industrial town of Stoke, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
you know the old factories etc, which is what Arthur did | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
and, you know, he's not a well-known artist outside this area, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
really as far as coming up in auction. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
But that's not the point because | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
I think people will love this | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
and he's someone for the future, definitely. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
I mean, if I was asked to put a value on this, I would certainly | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
put £1,000 to £1,500 on it. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
And if I was a collector, I would certainly go after his work | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
because these artists are getting rediscovered | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
because they were painting a disappearing life, really. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
-It's Gandalf's staff. -It is, isn't it? -It's parted the Red Sea! | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's a leg from a Salvador Dali horse on a painting. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
It's the most wonderful sort of abstract, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
it looks like it's growing out of the ground. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
Yeah, I agree. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
-What do you use it for? -It just hangs on the wall. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
When people come and say, "What is it?" | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
I say, "I haven't a clue, you tell me!" | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
When I first saw it, I thought it might be some sort of tribal weapon. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
You sometimes find tribal weapons with these | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
large knobs on the top that were thrown or used to hit people. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
But I don't think it's that at all. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
But rather curiously, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
it sort of doesn't seem to perform its function very well. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
-It bends and it sort of wobbles. -Hmm. -It's a rather curious object. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:19 | |
-It is. -Do you like it? -Yes, I love it. -I can see that it's had care. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
It's also got this sort of fantastic pattern. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
It's nice and shiny, it's got a good grain | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-and it's got a lovely colour. -Yes. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
And I would do exactly what you do with it. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
I would probably mount it on a plinth | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
and I would display it in the corner of the room, dramatically lit. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Oh, crikey! | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
-Dramatically lit? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
I don't think so! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
-That's taking it a bit far, is it? -Just a bit. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
So, what do you think of this? If you're going to inherit this. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
-Is this something you would display in your home? -Yes! | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Dramatically lit and cool, isn't it? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
Now, that's just copying, that's plagiarism! | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
We may not know exactly what it is, I think it's just effectively | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
-a late 19th-century carved, perhaps holly staff. -Yes. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
But I think it would do incredibly well in an auction. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I think if you put that in, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
it might be estimated to fetch somewhere between £100 and £150. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
Get off! Really? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
-It's just a lovely thing. -You do surprise me! | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
It's not going anywhere except on my wall. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
You know, I'm jolly relieved to hear that. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
Because I thought quite frankly, after that valuation, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
-you might me giving me some stick. -THEY LAUGH | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Our challenge this week concerns | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
four pieces of early 19th-century jewellery. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
One is an impostor. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Now, three are 18-carat gold, one is pinchbeck, and that's a cheap alloy. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:54 | |
So, all that glistens here is most definitely not gold. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
But which is which? | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Susan Rumfitt, you're our jewellery expert. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
You brought these along. First of all, pinchbeck. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
-Because I did a quick survey here. Who's heard of pinchbeck? -No. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Nobody. So, tell us more about it? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
Pinchbeck was an 18th-century invention | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
by Christopher Pinchbeck, who was actually a clockmaker. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
And he decided that there needed to be a metal | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
that was more affordable than the standardised 18-carat gold, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
which was the main gold in existence at the time. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
So, he produced this alloy, which is mainly zinc and copper | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
and he put this out into the market and well, we have the effects. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
Very difficult to tell the difference | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
between 18-carat gold and pinchbeck. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
So, if it's got a lot of copper in it, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-does it have a slightly rosy tinge to it? -It can do, yes. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
But of course, gold can show a bit of a coppery look to it as well. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
Well, if you want to have a guess at home, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Susan's got some clues for you. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
'This gorgeous bracelet finished with enamel was made in the 1820s. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
'But does it bear the telltale signs of discolouration | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
'you'd see in pinchbeck? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
'This bracelet, decorated with garnets, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
'was made in the 1820s or '30s. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
'But are signs of wear and tear due to its age | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
'or evidence of a metal that doesn't endure as well as real gold? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
'Is this aquamarine brooch dating from around 1820 | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
'the work of a high society goldsmith or a jeweller | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
'using highly versatile pinchbeck metal | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
'to imitate the finest craftsmanship? | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
'And this elegant turquoise necklace produced in the early 19th century | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
'is as bright as it was in 1820. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
'But was this because it was looked after well | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
'or because pinchbeck retains its bright gold colour?' | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
Well, I suppose the first thing I need to do is pick these up, then. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
-Yes. -And see. So this is gossamer light. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
But then, you know, it's a very fine little piece. This... | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
Well, it's got the stone in it, obviously. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
So that doesn't help me enormously. So this... That's heavy. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
You think this could be the pinchbeck? That's heavier. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
What makes you think that's pinchbeck? You just don't like it. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
-It looks a bit cheaper, yes. -Cheaper? Right, OK. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
I'm not sure that's the criteria for deciding. And then... | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
Well, the thing is they're all light, Susan. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
OK, I'm really stumped. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
Let's have a show of hands here | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
because I have to say, I have no idea. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
So, who thinks it's the necklace? | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Nobody. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
The brooch? The brooch? | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
-The brooch is not going down well, Susan. -No, it isn't, is it? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
The bracelet? | 0:29:30 | 0:29:31 | |
-Hmm. -And what about this bracelet at the end? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
You think it's this one? Yeah? | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
-Right? OK. -It's pretty split. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
OK, I'm going for the brooch. Do you know why I'm going for the brooch? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
-I just don't like it very much. I know. -That's a shame. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
-It is but you know, got to go for something. -Poor brooch! | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
So put us out of our misery then, Susan. Which is it? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
-Well, the brooch is saved. It was the bracelet. -Oh, it's that! Oh! | 0:29:51 | 0:29:56 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
-Right. -Oh, no! | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Right, come on, talk us through it then. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
OK, so the bracelet itself is really bright | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
and so, that would be my first gut instinct that it wasn't right. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
But when you pick it up and look at the links and the way | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
that they're formed, there are the signs of wear between the links. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
So, show me, for example? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
Just, well, if you look inside, it's all a bit black and grey | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and creates that blackness. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
If it was gold, it wouldn't be like that. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
It wouldn't be like that, no. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
The aquamarine brooch, it does look too good to be true, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
doesn't it, really? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
But again, the quality of the flowers on there | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
is just exceptional. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
What is interesting is, though, the values of them. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
The fact that pinchbeck has become so rare over time, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
now something like this will cost, in a good antique shop, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
about £1,800 to buy. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
-Really? -Which is extraordinary. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
Which is more than basically, certainly the aquamarine brooch, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
which is gold and that's around about £1,200. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Well, I hope you do better than I just have. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
If you've got 18-carat gold at home | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
-and you want to know if it's pinchbeck, look inside. -Look inside. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Feel the weight and look inside. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
And if you've got some you're not sure, bring it along to a roadshow. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
This is an extraordinary plaque. Where did you get it from? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:12 | |
I've had it for 28 years | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
-and it was left in a will from my great aunt who lived in London. -Hmm. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:19 | |
I've seen plenty of these in my time. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
They're usually English. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
And they were painted by women | 0:31:26 | 0:31:27 | |
who went to classes. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
It was a done thing for women to paint plaques | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
or teapots or whatever came to hand. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
This was unusual because it's continental. In fact, it's German. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
It dates from about 1875, something around there. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
Most are pretty awful but this one's spectacular. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
The person that painted this really knew what they were doing. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
Um, this lace work in white enamel is superb. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
These cabochons in turquoise are made in slight relief | 0:32:02 | 0:32:08 | |
but they're painted in a way that suggests that they're standing out. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
Now, very often with these portraits, | 0:32:14 | 0:32:19 | |
there is iconography, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
which tells you something about who the person was. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
And we have got it in spades all over here. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
We've got round her neck... | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
..the locket with a gentleman's face on it. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
So, who is he? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:41 | |
She's wearing a collar which says "Deo Gloria", | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
to the glory of God. Why? | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
Is she going to go into a nunnery? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
What's happened to him? | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
Has he died and she's decided to go into a nunnery? | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
She is staring into the distance. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
She's dreaming about what has happened | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
or what is about to happen. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
What's it worth? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
£2,500. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
It's a great, great thing. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
-Right. -Thank you very much. -OK, no, thank you very much. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
Do you know what this is called? | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
I believe it's a marriage cup or a wager cup. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
A wager cup is exactly what it is. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Do you know why they're called wager cups? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Erm, presumably they put wine in | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
and then try and drink from it without spilling it. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
You're absolutely right, that's exactly what it is. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
-You gamble on it. -Yes. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:41 | |
The idea is you fill up that cup with liquid, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
with some wine presumably. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
-Then you turn it over. -Oh. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
And you fill up that end with more wine or spirit. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
And the idea is that | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
-you drink out of it. -Oh. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
-And you do it without spilling a drop from the bottom part. -Oh. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
And if you do it right, you win your wager. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
And the idea of them, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
it actually comes from Holland in the 17th century. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
It's made in London in 1909, the hallmark's 1909, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
and it's made by a firm called D & J Welby. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
They're always good quality, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
nothing that they made is ever shoddy. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
How did you happen on it? | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
I bought it from a friend. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
But he bought it originally from a car-boot sale. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
-Oh, go on. -For 50 pence. -Did he? -Hmm. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
And he asked, he showed it me and was, "Do you want to sell it?" | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
And we settled on £50. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
I liked it and I like silver. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
Well, I think you were quite shrewd to buy that. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
Because it would make | 0:34:43 | 0:34:44 | |
somewhere in the order of £300 to £350 at auction. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
-Brilliant! -So that was quite a good wager for you, then, wasn't it? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
Yes, it was! Brilliant wager. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
As someone who's lived in Stoke-on-Trent, albeit briefly, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
I have a huge attachment to the city and its history. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
I think it's a marvellous place. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Erm, and it's a great centre of craftsmanship. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
But of course, pottery, we all know about pottery, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
it's the great city of pots. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
But that craftsmanship to me is much wider. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
Here we're looking at ironwork. So what's the story here? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
Well, it started in 1873. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
My great-grandfather did an apprenticeship | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
to be a coach-builder. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
And when he finished the apprenticeship in 1880, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:25 | |
he started a wrought iron company in Tunstall called William Durose. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:30 | |
Right. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
And then his sons continued the business | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and eventually, my father was the last person in the business. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
And they made wrought ironwork not only locally | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
but throughout the country and throughout the world. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
-So, a famous name. I mean, I've heard that name. -Right, yeah. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
-Because it's part of the history of the city, isn't it? -That's it, yes. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
But it all fits into that period. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
You know, this is the Arts and Crafts movement. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
I mean, a piece like this, who made that? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
That was made by the original William Durose. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
It's classic Arts and Crafts - it's wonderful craftsmanship, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
it's full of that sort of sense of integrity and creativity | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
of the late 19th century. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
And so, these gates are the sort of thing the company did. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
-That's it. These are iconic Tunstall Park gates. -Are they still there? | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
-They're still there. -So they're a lasting memorial. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
That's it, they were made in 1904. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
But having said we're not talking about pottery, of course we are. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
Because who's that? | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Well, that's my father. And the business was 100 years old in 1980. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:32 | |
And my mother knew Peggy Davies, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
who was a sculptress at the Royal Doulton's. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
And she made this as a unique one-off piece. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
What, to mark that centenary? | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
To mark the centenary, used my father's photograph, which is here. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
What did your father think when he saw it? | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Well, it was a total surprise and he thought it was fantastic | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and obviously, it's a family heirloom now | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
so it can be passed down to my children. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
You throw out the name Peggy Davies quite casually. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
She was totally local, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Burslem School of Art at the age of 12, came through the ranks. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
You know, she is the greatest modeller in that amazing story. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:11 | |
So, what happened to the factory? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Unfortunately, I had to close the business | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
and it was knocked down and now it's a superstore. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
That's... That's the fate of historic industry today. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
Values? God knows. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
I mean, the ironwork is what it is, it's part of our history. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
Erm, that figure I think to a collector, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
-we're looking at £1,500, £2,000, something like that. -Right. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
-But it doesn't really matter, does it? -No, no. No, it won't be sold. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you very much, thank you. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Well, of all the local Staffordshire potters, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
the best known and most successful was Wedgwood. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
And of course Wedgwood doesn't come any better than these! | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-Tell me about the caps. -Well, this front cap here is my | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
third-generation great-granddad. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
That's his England cap when he played for England | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
in 1886 against Ireland. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
Because jasperware was Wedgwood's great invention, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
it's what he's best known for. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
His method was to stain the background colour | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
wonderful rich blues or greens and then to apply | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
a decoration in the beautifully modelled white relief. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
And in the kiln, they're fired together | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
and the quality doesn't change. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
They're sealed forever. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:26 | |
This is interesting because 1888, I think, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
was the inaugural year of the Football League. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
And this is obviously a year later. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
Stoke City were one of the teams in the first league. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
-The first league. -And they finished last, I think. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
-I think I'm right! -THEY LAUGH | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
-These were made in 1775. -As early as that? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
I suppose a pair like these are worth today, well, just over £2,000. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
To me, they're just perfection. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
If you were to offer them all as one lot in an auction sale, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
you could probably expect an estimate of | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
something like £1,000-£1,500. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
It's all right, hey? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Cheers for that. Cheers. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
The problem with furniture is it doesn't like sun | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
and it doesn't like rain. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
And today we've got a bit of both | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
so we're under this precautionary umbrella, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
so I hope it'll look after us well. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Now, one of the reasons we don't want to get this wet is it would | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
not help this very pretty painted decoration on the top of this. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
But I gather that's not how you found | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
this little piece of furniture. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:48 | |
Yes, I've got memories of when I was a little boy | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
seeing this in the attic painted a lurid pink. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
My goodness, and how did you find that it was not pink? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:59 | |
Well, I decided I liked the shape of it. And so, I sent it to be dipped. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
I thought it was probably pine. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
But that would have ruined it, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
it would have taken all the decoration off. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
So, how do we get left with this? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Well, the restorer rang me up and he said he must have tried | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
a little bit or noticed there was a design, possibly. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
He said he was going to strip it by hand. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
Well, you were very lucky to find a sensitive restorer | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
who didn't just plunge the whole thing into an acid bath. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
-So, it's a very recognisable shape. -Hmm. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
-And you know and I know that, in fact, it is a wash stand. -Yes. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:37 | |
So, this lifts up. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
And that folds out. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
So, here you have the en-suite of the day. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
Ah, yes. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
Tucked into the corner, very handy. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
So, it hasn't got its basins any more. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
And I'm a little bit doubtful actually about the colour here. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
I think this might have gone with the psychedelic pink. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It is a very Regency shape, it's got a slightly splayed legs, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
this bowed front. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:01 | |
It's the kind of thing you'll find in design books by Hepplewhite | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
at the end of the 18th century. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
-I think it could be American. -Oh, gosh! | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Well, I don't know but there is a great tradition in America | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
of stencilled and painted decoration | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
of very much this kind coming from what they call the federal period, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
which is the equivalent of our Regency. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
So, I would put this at around 1820. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
It's really delightful, I think stencilled | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
and then hand-painted on top of that to give the detail. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
As it is, it's very much in the decorator market. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
And I would like to say that you can expect between £500 and £800. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:42 | |
-That would be a nice surprise, yes. -Nice. Really good. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
Thank you very much, that's interesting. Very interesting. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Thanks. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:50 | |
On the face of it, this looks like a bit of a conundrum, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
I have to confess. OK, | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
so top right-hand corner of this scroll, if you like. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
-Malta. -That's right. -And a Maltese cross. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
-In the middle, this is a white Russian flag. -Oh! | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
So, the flag of the Imperial side during the Russian Revolution. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
And the whole of the rest of the sheet is covered with signatures, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
which even I can see are pretty well all Russian names. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
The date, 1919 here. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
You're going to have to help me a little bit. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
Do you know what this is? | 0:42:24 | 0:42:25 | |
Can you tell me something about its background? | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
I just know it's passed down through the family. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
It belonged to my father, who had it off his father | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
and it was his grandfather's brother's originally, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
that's who the Major Smith is. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
-So, you're from the Smith family? -That's right, yeah. -Right. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
So, "Major Smith, we Russian refugees beg you to accept | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
"this humble gift with our best wishes and thanks. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
"Malta, 9th September 1919." | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-Yeah. -And then we see all of these Russian names. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
Here, look, the Prince and Princess Obolensky. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
Nicolas Stroganoff. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:04 | |
I keep seeing the word count, | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
I see the word prince and princess several times. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
I can even make out here... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
-I think this says the Empress of Russia. -Yeah! | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
So, I think what we have here is a certificate, if you like, | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
put together as a token of thanks by the Russian refugees | 0:43:20 | 0:43:26 | |
-from the Russian Revolution. -Yeah. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:28 | |
Those who had escaped Russia. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
We think that the Tsar himself Nicholas II and his family | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
had been shot and executed in 1918, this is the following year. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
This is, I suppose, what was left of the Imperial government. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:43 | |
And they were evacuated with the help of the British Navy and Army | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
and this is where I think Major Smith comes in. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
-They were evacuated to Malta. -Yeah. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
So, this is a really extraordinary piece! | 0:43:52 | 0:43:55 | |
It's full of important names, | 0:43:55 | 0:43:57 | |
full of names of people who will have descendants today | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
who will be fascinated to find that their forebears | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
were named on here in this historical occasion. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
Being Russian of course, some of those descendants may be wealthy | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
and certainly would be people enthusiastic about buying | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
items of their history back, I suppose. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
So I'd be very confident in putting a figure | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
of £3,000 to £4,000 on this. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:18 | |
Wow! | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
-Worth the journey! -SHE LAUGHS | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
-I'm very glad you brought it. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
Here we are in the heart of the Potteries | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
and I wonder how many people watching the roadshow | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
and eating their supper | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
have ever thought about the plates that they're eating off. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
We tend to take pottery for granted, it's something which is part of | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
our lives and we tend not to think about the people | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
who actually made them. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:48 | |
But you know all about one aspect of making, which is engraving. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
How's that? | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
Well, my grandfather was a copper plate engraver at Wedgwood's | 0:44:54 | 0:44:59 | |
for many, many years. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:00 | |
And he didn't retire until he was about 73, 74. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:06 | |
Because of the War, the lack of skilled people. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:10 | |
There'd be no young apprentices coming through, exactly. | 0:45:10 | 0:45:12 | |
And the most bizarre thing is that as you arrived this morning | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
with these tissue pools from the copper plates, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
-somebody else in the queue arrived with copper plates. -Yes. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
And it was like they both came together | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
and we've got the whole story. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:28 | |
And I think we just don't appreciate the skill. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
These are hand-engraved, little taps of a hammer individually. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
The deeper the hammer goes, the darker the colour is. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
And then from this plate, it would all be inked up, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
it's then scraped off with a knife and then rubbed down with corduroy. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
And then the tissue is laid on, it transfers the ink to the tissue, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:50 | |
the tissue then goes on to the ware. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
These were some of the most valuable things a pottery owned | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
because the amount of time and skill that went into them. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
Often the engravers and the modellers | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
were the most well-paid people at the pottery. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
So your grandfather would have been... | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
Well, not a wealthy man but comparatively wealthy. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
Yes, I suppose. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:08 | |
But what amazing skill and you can see on this one here, | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
not only did they have to have the skills to engrave | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
but you have to get the curvature right to fit around the plate. | 0:46:14 | 0:46:18 | |
And when you look at this one here, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
particularly you can see where the join is there. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
-And also, if you see, notice this green spot? -Yes, yes. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
-That's because this is a second. -Yes. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
-So, even though he engraved this... -That's right. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
..he's probably seen this one's been rejected, thought, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
-"Right, I'll have that and keep that." -Yes, that's right. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
Because people who worked in properties were very proud | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
but in a very modest way. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:40 | |
They knew the skill they had but they didn't really celebrate it. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
I think what's fascinating about meeting people like yourself | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
is that often this is unsung work, this was just a job they were doing. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
A very skilled job, admittedly. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
-We should celebrate it more. -Yes. | 0:46:52 | 0:46:54 | |
Because behind every ordinary plate are many, many hands | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
-that made the final product and we never talk about them. -No. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:02 | |
-The awful thing is there's not a lot of value here. -No, I know that. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
The copper plates themselves, maybe with the exception of this one - | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
this is actually a plate for a pot lid. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
Pot lids with bear-baiting scenes | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
are the most desirable pot lids there are. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
So, to a pot lid collector, they would want to have this | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
-and they might well pay £500 to £800 for this one. -Gosh. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
The other ones are probably frankly worth a little bit more | 0:47:24 | 0:47:27 | |
than what the scrap value is. | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
-Your collection, the tissue sample, this is one of many. -Hmm. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
And the associated plates. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:34 | |
To a ceramic geek like myself... | 0:47:35 | 0:47:38 | |
-£400, £500, £600 perhaps. -Oh, OK. -But to you, priceless memories. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:42 | |
They're just priceless, yes. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:43 | |
And as I say, a celebration of what was made here. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
-And what's still made here today. -That's right. -Thank you very much. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
Thank you, thank you, it's very interesting. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
So, what do we have here? A little miniature carriage clock. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
Yeah, my grandfather was the manager of a local jewellery shop | 0:47:55 | 0:47:59 | |
and people used to bring things in that they wanted to sell. | 0:47:59 | 0:48:03 | |
And if he liked something, he'd buy it himself. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
-That's where I think it comes from. -Do you know who made it? -No, no. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
All it says on the back is Paris, so I've no idea. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
-Well, that's a pretty good start, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
So we know that it's French-made and in France, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
they made them in the hundreds of thousands but in England, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
they made them more in the tens of thousands in the 19th century. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
So, French carriage clocks, much more numerous | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
and therefore worth less. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:25 | |
However, what I particularly like about this are two things. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
-Firstly, that it has the original gilding. -Yes. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
And secondly, that it is | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
-such a small and pretty size. -Lovely. -Yeah. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
We've got other carriage clocks, bigger ones | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
but that one has always been my favourite. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:42 | |
So, taking into account that it is | 0:48:42 | 0:48:44 | |
what we call a sub-miniature carriage timepiece, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
we're talking at auction between £700 and £1,000. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
Wow! | 0:48:51 | 0:48:52 | |
-Wow, it's not going anywhere anyway. -Oh, don't say that. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
Say, "Yippee, I'm going to flog it!" Fantastic! | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
No, it won't go anywhere. That's lovely to know, yeah. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
Wow, this is bright. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:04 | |
Someone's been busy with the polish and the cleaner. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
Er, not exactly. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
It would be polished maybe once every five years | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
but seeing this week, I had the idea of bringing it here, | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
needed something quick. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
So I took it down the garden, put it on the patio table, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
laid it out flat. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
Got some cola, a couple of litres. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Poured the cola over it, left it 12 hours. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
-Come back to it the next day, it had lifted all that tarnish off. -Wow. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:30 | |
Well, it's as bright as a new pin, isn't it now? | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
It probably would have been silver-plated in the first place. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Erm, the reason I suggest this is | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
because it's inscribed down here for Elkington & Co, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
who were a very famous Victorian firm based in Birmingham. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
Metalware but largely silver-plated metalware. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
The casting is very sharp. The lettering is wonderful. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
Sir Joseph Whitworth, Baronet. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
Do you know anything about the individual who is portrayed here? | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
So, Joseph Whitworth, erm, world-famous engineer. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
Originated the screw thread. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
He had the idea that in the 1870s, 1890s, he wanted to try | 0:50:07 | 0:50:12 | |
to make it universal in the railways. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
-Everyone used the same thread. -I see, I see. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:17 | |
So, if it was in India or South America, | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
they would have the Whitworth thread. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
-So, it's a specific railway interest. -Yes. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
And it's a local thing, you found it locally? | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
A builder took it off a building from Crewe Railway Works. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:32 | |
I saw it a few months later because I used to do contract work for him. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:37 | |
And I said, "Would you like to part with it, Mike?" "No, no." | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
Saw him 12 months later, "Would you like...?" "No, no." | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
He said, "I tell you what I do want." | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
He said, "I'd like a key old desk." | 0:50:45 | 0:50:46 | |
I said, "All right, leave it with me." | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
So a friend of mine was selling a desk, £5. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:50:51 | 0:50:53 | |
Yeah, I'll give you £5 for it, Pete, no problem. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
Saw the builder later. "You want to do a swap?" | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
-"Yeah, I'll do it, yeah, definitely." -Fantastic. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
So, of course it wasn't in this condition, it was very, very dark. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
Because it'd been on the building wall for over 100 years. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
I think you've done well out of the deal for that five quid desk. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
I think that if you entered this into an auction sale now, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
you could probably expect somewhere in the region of £500 to £800. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Very good, shall we start the bidding today? | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
OTHERS CHUCKLE | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
This is just sublime, it's a fabulous, fabulous vase. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:29 | |
-Of which you have a pair. -Mm-hm. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:31 | |
So, tell us about them in your life. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:33 | |
Well, I've always known them. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
Er, my understanding is that my grandfather | 0:51:37 | 0:51:42 | |
was a travelling salesman for the Irish Linen Company. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
And... | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
..best of my knowledge, he visited Czechoslovakia in the 1930s | 0:51:49 | 0:51:54 | |
and these have been in the family since. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
-OK. And do you like them? -Found their way down to me. I love them. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
Oh, I can't say I blame you. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
Over the centuries, certain European glassworks have emerged as greats. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:09 | |
And there are not many of them. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
There's Baccarat in France. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
And the other one that really comes to mind is Moser. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
Leo Moser founded this firm in the 19th century. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:24 | |
And quality was always paramount. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
There has never been rubbish Moser. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
What you have here is an acid etching, a resist. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:34 | |
A rubbery-type material is laid over all the areas | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
which are to remain on the original surface. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
And then the vase is immersed in an extremely aggressive acid. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:46 | |
So, all the areas which are now blue, cobalt blue, | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
have been eaten back by the acid, | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
leaving the elephants and the palm trees. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
It is without doubt Moser | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
because we have a very clear signature on the base here. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:04 | |
But it's not the best signature. There's a superior signature. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
Oh, right. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:09 | |
-Which is just there. -Really? -You ever seen it? | 0:53:11 | 0:53:14 | |
-No, I have not noticed that. -It says "Moser, Karlsbad". | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
-Just there, hidden in the vegetation. -Yes. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
So, you've got a heap of work here. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
Quality is the word that comes to mind. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
This is hours and hours of expert labour. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
Designed in 1925. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
-What do you reckon the pair of these is worth? -Maybe £1,000. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
These as a pair at auction are five times greater than you imagined. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:44 | |
They're either £4,000 to £5,000, the pair. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
-Oh, wow! -Very, very good things. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:53 | |
Surprising! | 0:53:53 | 0:53:54 | |
That's my job. And it's one of the best parts of my job. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
This is one of the most extraordinary watercolours | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
I've ever seen on the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
And before I talk about why I think it is extraordinary, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
I want to look right. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
And we see here a clear signature, Lindner, and date, Paris '35. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:19 | |
So this is the artist Richard Lindner, who is associated | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
with the New York Pop Art scene in the 1950s and '60s. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
And here we have a conductor surrounded rather claustrophobically | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
with a whole number of figures. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
-Do you know who the conductor is? -The conductor's Offenbach. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
So how are you connected to this picture? | 0:54:37 | 0:54:39 | |
This picture was painted by my uncle, who was my father's brother, | 0:54:39 | 0:54:44 | |
who grew up in Nuremberg and lived in Paris in the '30s. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:49 | |
Sadly was in a concentration camp but escaped | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
and got to New York, where he became quite famous. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
He was befriended by Andy Warhol | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
and John Lennon really liked my uncle's painting. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
And when they designed the Sgt Pepper LP, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
I think John Lennon asked for my uncle's picture to be on that. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
See, this is amazing. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
Because if we look at the lower right of this picture and we look at | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
that figure in a red costume on his breastplate and yellow lapels, | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
you think of that album cover | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
and you think of John on the left-hand side in his yellow | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
and George in his red. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
Um, and with Richard being in the picture himself, you wonder whether | 0:55:27 | 0:55:33 | |
he had the influence on Peter Blake, the album cover, and John. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:39 | |
So, here's someone in the '30s | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
almost anticipating the Pop Art scene in the '50s | 0:55:41 | 0:55:46 | |
which pretty much started in Britain | 0:55:46 | 0:55:48 | |
and later on, became very famous in New York with Andy Warhol | 0:55:48 | 0:55:51 | |
and all his contemporaries. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
And that's the extraordinary thing about this picture. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
So, I have to say, the provenance and your story is unbelievable. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
I mean, he must have had the most extraordinary life. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
What did you like about him? | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
The last time I saw him was 1968 | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
and he got off the train in double denim, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
smoking a little clay pipe, which was amazing for us at that time. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
And he was just a great person to have in the house | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
and meet and talk to. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
So, I'm using the word extraordinary because this is all extraordinary. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
We have an amazing family provenance, we have a picture | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
that almost anticipates the Pop Art scene in the '50s and '60s. | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
And as such, I think this is a real rarity. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
It's actually a very difficult picture to value. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:40 | |
But I'm just going to put it there. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
-I think it's worth at least £40,000 to £60,000. -Really! | 0:56:42 | 0:56:47 | |
That's amazing, thank you! | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
-Thank you so much, a truly brilliant picture. -Thank you. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:53 | |
So there you have it, the painting that might have inspired | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
one of the most iconic album covers of all time. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
The Beatles' Sgt Pepper. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:01 | |
Of all the tickets I've ever been given, this is the most exciting. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
A ticket to the moon! | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
One of our visitors brought this along today. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
It was given to her mum in the 1970s by an airline, | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
Trans International Airlines, an American company. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
Ceased trading in the 1980s. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
And if you think about it, 1969, the first man on the moon. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:24 | |
Everything seemed possible. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
Look, there's even a travel guide, Charters To The Moon. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
And this is my favourite bit. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
"Moon Charter Series, one reservation. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:34 | |
"Departures, to be announced." | 0:57:34 | 0:57:37 | |
And 40 years on, we're still waiting! | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
From Trentham Gardens and the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:44 |