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This is a relaxing way to start the roadshow.

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Rolling hills, woodland, the lake.

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You'd think I was miles away from the noise

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and crowds of a city.

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But in fact, Stoke-on-Trent, is just over there.

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The industrial metropolis, home of the Potteries.

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And I'm in Trentham Gardens for this week's Antiques Roadshow.

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Trentham has always been the perfect place to get away from it all.

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In the mid-19th-century it was a playground for the

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rich and powerful.

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It's owner, the Duke of Sutherland spared no expense improving

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the great house, Trentham Hall, and the expansive gardens.

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He loved inviting influential and celebrated people

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to come and appreciate it.

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The lake was designed by Capability Brown

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as the centrepiece of Trentham.

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The River Trent was dammed to supply water to the lake

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and the gardens and at the time it seemed ingenious,

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but it proved to have disastrous consequences.

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By the 1850s, the gardens were among

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the most celebrated in the country.

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But just 20 years later,

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this paradise was lost.

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In the latter half of the 19th century,

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the potteries of Stoke-on-Trent were booming.

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There were around 2,000 bottle kilns creating a permanent

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fog of smoke over the city. The population was also growing.

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The area's waterways, including the River Trent,

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became heavily polluted.

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And the lake, like the river, was a virtual cesspit.

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The shine had well and truly gone off this once impressive estate.

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Unable to find a solution, the Duke and Duchess of Sutherland

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moved away to a more fragrant environment, no doubt.

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And as for Trentham Hall, it was demolished in 1911.

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And this...

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..is all that's left.

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Thankfully, the good times have returned.

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The lake has been restored to its former glory

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and the gardens which, for years, were lost beneath weeds

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and overgrowth have, over a decade, been redesigned and look at them!

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They're glorious.

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Let's hope our experts are just as good at uncovering great

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finds at today's Antiques Roadshow.

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I gather you've come a long way to be here today?

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-I have, I've come all the way from New Zealand.

-Oh, right.

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-And you brought this in your hand luggage then?

-I did.

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-Where did it come from?

-I got it from a charity shop in Taupo,

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-which is central North Island, about two years ago.

-And how much for?

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-50 cents. 50 New Zealand cents which is about 22 pence.

-OK.

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So what do you think you've got?

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I think I might have got a little French pot,

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-which may or may not be a fake.

-Right.

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It is a problem with these

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because fakes absolutely abound

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of this type of porcelain.

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A little pot from the Sevres.

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Or is it? Let's have a look.

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-A toilet pot, from a cosmetics and dressing table.

-Right.

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And a little lid,

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you lift the top off with a pretty flower and underneath

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there is the maker's mark and that is really quite a famous sign

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and that's what, you spotted that in the shop, did you?

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-No, no, I didn't.

-Well, the mark is the Sevres factory mark,

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the monogram of the King Louis XV cipher with

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a letter in the middle which is a date code.

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-And letter R should be 1770.

-Right.

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-So that's when this should have been made.

-Should've been, right.

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If it's the real thing and, well, it's got lots of clues.

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And that's the useful thing because all the workmen who made it

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put their signs on it.

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When it was being produced,

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the potter who made the basic shape on the wheel scratched

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in some little initials, you can just see a little scribble there,

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-that's the potter's mark.

-Right.

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And then when it was hung up in the kiln,

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they drilled a little hole in the foot rim

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and hung it up in the kiln

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and then you've got the painter.

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The little shape above the mark,

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that's the sign of Noel,

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a painter who specialised in copies

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-of textile patterns.

-Oh, right.

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And that's what you've got here.

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So, it all adds up and what you found is the real thing.

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SHE GASPS

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So, made at the Sevres Factory

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in France in 1770, a special piece of porcelain, probably

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there was a little set of these on a dressing table in a very grand home

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or palace and for 50 cents.

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Great, isn't it?

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So, this is enough to pay for your flight over here, wonders.

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It could be because that little pot's worth £1,000.

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SHE LAUGHS

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That is wonderful.

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I didn't want to pay for 50 to have a valuation

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but I thought I'd pay for a plane ticket and come to the roadshow.

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It's wonderful, wonderful news!

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Now, you've brought along a brooch,

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fashioned as two wings

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with a bit of blue, and a couple of letters in the middle.

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And before we get on to the brooch itself, I'd like you to tell me

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when you got it and where you got it.

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It was bought in Wales when I was on holiday in 2006 at a car boot.

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And what drew you to it particularly, do you think?

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Well, I thought at first, cos I never had my glasses on,

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it was an RAF brooch of silver and marcasite.

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Yes, which were made in quite large numbers.

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-You buy the thing for how much?

-£20.

-£20.

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Took it home with you, then what did you do with it?

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Well, I noticed it had got the England

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and Australia on it, plus the initials in the middle, CCW.

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And I thought it was unusual and that it might be something to

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do with the flight Australia to England with Amy Johnson.

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Now, you, then, I think,

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-did a little bit of homework, didn't you?

-Yes.

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And you've actually come up with a photograph of one of the most

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famous British women of her day.

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There she is dressed wearing

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a brooch which is

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remarkably similar to that

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particular one.

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All right, well let me tell you as much as I can about it.

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First of all, silver and marcasite, no.

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Platinum and diamond.

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The brooch is fashioned in the form of two outstretched wings

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with a little wreath of diamonds in the centre

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and then, very crucially, you have

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this monogram in the middle

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because the monogram is actually

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a man who was called

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Charles Chippers Wakefield and he

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sponsored this extraordinary woman

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when she decided that she was going to fly Gypsy Moth

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between this country and Australia as a solo voyage.

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People didn't do that in those days.

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So that's why I can feel confident that,

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not only have we got the photograph

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of her wearing it,

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but you've also got the brooch

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with the CCW monogram

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in the middle and then to augment it,

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to really ram the point home,

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you've got the countries as well.

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Question - how on earth did this brooch finish up

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in a car boot in Wales?

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Well, she used to fly in Wales on the beach, practise to fly.

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Oh, so was it possible then that she lost it

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and it was picked up by someone?

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Well, she did pawn some of her jewellery up in Wales to

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sponsor her yachting lessons.

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So she may have pawned that brooch

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-to pay for her...

-Lessons.

-Right, OK.

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-She wasn't a wealthy woman.

-OK.

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£20 brooch, car-boot sale...

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..£3,000.

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-CROWD GASPS

-Oh, right.

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What an absolutely fantastic

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piece of jewellery to bring onto

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the roadshow. I'm absolutely thrilled. Thank you very much.

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-Thank you very much.

-You're welcome.

-Thank you.

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I love a leather box and a leather box that actually says,

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"Lady Armstrong, Cragside."

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Cragside, that fantastic house in

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the middle of Northumberland,

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one of the great stately homes.

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What is your relationship with

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-Cragside?

-Absolutely none, directly.

-OK.

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My interest is in collecting old maps of the canals

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and the canal system but when I saw this in a shop for sale,

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I just took a fancy to it and thought, "I've got to have that."

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Wow!

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Isn't that amazing?

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OK, well, let me just try and work out

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what it is that we've got here.

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There are knobs.

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What does that...? Oh, OK,

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-so that rolls the map...

-That's right.

-..backwards and forwards.

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This is absolutely remarkable.

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Oh, and actually, here we've got Northumberland,

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there's Cragside here.

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Yes, we've got Rothbury and Cragside.

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And Cragside is actually there, that's the site of the house.

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And moving across into the middle of the North Sea then,

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you've got this fabulous key to the maps.

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The red ones, "first-class roads."

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The red and white dotted are "secondary"

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and the one down from that is "indifferent but still passable."

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-LAUGHS:

-That's great, isn't it?

-Brilliant.

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So, I'm picturing the scene of Lady Armstrong

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on some wonderful journey through England with her driver,

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perhaps in her Rolls-Royce,

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and as they go through the country,

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so the map scrolls down.

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I mean, it is an early form of Sat Nav.

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Turn it over...

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-..and there's a compartment here.

-Two little clips.

-Two clips.

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And look at that!

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Here you have these rolls then,

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that fit into the machine that covers the whole of

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England and Wales,

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made by Bartholomew's, who are perhaps

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the best makers of maps.

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Date-wise, we're talking about the 1920s.

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I mean, the only thing that I suppose I'm surprised about is

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that actually it's a painted case and I would have assumed

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actually it would be a mahogany case rather than painted.

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-How long ago did you buy it?

-Getting on for ten years ago now.

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-And you paid what for it then?

-I paid £150.

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-Which was a reasonable sum.

-I thought so at the time.

-Yes, sure.

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I think the market has moved on since then, over the last ten years.

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And a quirky object like this to the right buyer,

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that is the owner of a 1920s Rolls-Royce or Bentley,

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they would pay between £800 and £1,200 for it.

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Really? Oh, very good.

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Do you have a prized object from the golden age of travel?

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Glamorous luggage? Beautifully crafted car mascots?

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Perhaps a menu from the maiden voyage of a famous ship?

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Antiques Roadshow is planning a special edition

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and we're looking for outstanding stories that celebrate

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the era of luxury ocean-going liners,

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the early days of air travel,

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classic cars and of course the steam age.

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TRAIN WHISTLES

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We'll be recording an episode on board the magnificent

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Flying Scotsman later this year.

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To book your seat,

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tell us your story by contacting...

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When I first saw this, I thought, "What the heck is it?"

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We've got what looks like a diary in nice Morocco leather,

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solid silver, but then when we come to flip it over,

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magically it turns into a golf scoring card,

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which as far as silver items go, I've never seen one.

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So that says, "The North Staffs Colliery Owners Rescue Team."

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And so, I imagine that that is on the end of that watch chain.

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Well, I hope so, yes.

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I said, "Was this Granny's?"

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She said, "No, she didn't play golf, but Grandpa did."

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-Is it feminine or masculine?

-Well, I thought it was a bit girlie.

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Yes, that's what I thought too.

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-Because I thought that might hang on a belt...

-Yeah, like a chatelaine.

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Yes, rather like a chatelaine.

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He was a member of the Colliery Rescue Team and there was a fire

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within the colliery stables and my grandfather went in,

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rescued these horses,

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and by undoing the chains to rescue the horses,

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he had severe burns on his hands.

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And he was a bit of a hero at the time.

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Someone has specially commissioned that.

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You've got the golf club holder here,

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there's crossed golf clubs with a little golf ball

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and then date, partner, played at,

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so you're keeping a record of your score and who you played with.

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A great story of bravery like that attached to it,

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and you've got the documentation,

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and you've even got a photograph of the original recipient of the medal.

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It's got to be worth 150 quid

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rather than the £20 or £30 that it otherwise would be.

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That's very nice. Very nice for you.

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THEY LAUGH

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I would happily say, comfortably,

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£600 to £800.

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-Really?

-Oh, yeah, really.

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Oh, wow.

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I know the golfers are mad about memorabilia

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but I didn't know they were that mad.

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They're mad, and they're mad about memorabilia.

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BELL CLANGS

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-Well, that sounded great, didn't it?

-Yes, fantastic.

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You know there's a well-known newsreel that shows

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a bell like this,

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and written on it,

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written across it, it says,

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"Don't come and tell,

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"ring this like hell."

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-And that's a Battle of Britain period newsreel.

-Oh, right.

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And that's where it comes from, but where did you get it from?

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-Well, I purchased it with a deal that I did.

-So you're a collector?

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Yeah.

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And this is what people mostly know as a scramble bell,

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a Royal Air Force or RAF scramble bell.

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And if we look at it, it has this crown,

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that's George VI's crown and the letter AM,

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that's Air Ministry and the year, 1940.

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Now, of course, 1940 was the time of the Battle of Britain

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and this brings back those images and those

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black-and-white films of someone

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ringing the bell, clang, clang, clang, clang,

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and those RAF fighter pilots leaping out of their armchairs,

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out of their deckchairs,

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racing for their Spitfires and their Hurricanes.

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But which RAF station did this come from?

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I don't know exactly which one it was.

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I think it was somewhere in Lincolnshire,

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one of the airfields over there but I wish I did know

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because it would make it much more interesting,

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if we knew which one it had come from.

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You know these were found at the guardroom...

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..they were found at the station headquarters,

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they were found at the fire section, so there are a lot of bells

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like this on every single RAF station at that period.

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That means there are a lot of bells.

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-So, to be truthful, they're not uncommon objects.

-Right.

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However, having said that, they're actually quite desirable objects.

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Something like this at auction today would certainly

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make between £800 and £1,200.

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Oh, right. Good deal.

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HE LAUGHS

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Yeah, I'm chuffed about that.

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Well, I must say that you're below the average age of an

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Antiques Roadshow visitor.

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So, tell us, why have you come along here today?

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Well, I started collecting

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silver when I was seven

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and then I've branched out to glass

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and I think it's absolutely wonderful,

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the colours and how it's made and the history behind it.

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Well, you're clearly a nutter, even at this fledgling age,

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so where do you get it from? Where's the spark that led you here?

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Well, when I was seven, I was in an antique shop with my mother

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and I just fell in love with antiques at that very moment

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-and I kept going back and it's just taken off.

-I did the same.

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My parents were part-time dealers and at the age of 12 I was going

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out with my parents buying.

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And it was a question,

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you could sit in the car or you could go into the shop.

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And I got it big time, bad, you know and it's been with me ever since,

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that's 60 years I've been doing it. You know, welcome to the club.

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So tell us why you bought them.

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Well, I inherited those two pieces from my grandfather.

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This piece here reminded me of Loetz And Tiffany.

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These, I'm very keen on 18th-century design and the grapes, that's why...

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-Fruiting vine, yeah.

-Fruiting vine.

-So what's the objective?

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What do you want to learn from this exercise?

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Well, I really want to know more about the glass.

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I want to expand my knowledge.

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Well, I think that is

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the cornerstone of what I'm going to tell you.

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You've basically come for advice, haven't you?

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And my immediate reaction is you need to bone up a bit more.

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You've got to do some swotting. I think you've got to do more.

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This is disparate. There's no theme here.

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Now, of course, the ones you inherited,

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1930s kind of little bonbon dishes,

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they would have had sugared almonds or mint imperials,

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it's that sort of thing, they're sort of a bit old fogey.

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Then we have vine engraving. Now, these are historic revival.

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They're '30s, 1920s, '30s so they're not 18th-century,

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they're made in the manner of the 18th-century.

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So, you've got the two themes, you've got retro

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and this sort of iridescent stuff which is...but it's generic.

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So I've kind of beaten you up a bit, but this is tough love.

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You know, I'm just willing you to succeed.

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From my way of thinking, this is your prettiest piece.

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I think that's exactly where the market is, iridescence.

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It's nice, identifiably handmade stuff,

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that's, I think, your best buy.

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So look, we've heard where you've come from

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so the point is really, the great point is,

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where does it go from here?

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What are you going to do with this?

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Well, with this I'm looking to add to it

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and maybe sell some pieces and buy better.

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-So you're a dealer in the making, really.

-Yes, definitely.

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OK, so what sort of money are you parting for these?

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Ah, not very much.

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OK, well, how much did this pair cost you?

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-Around £20.

-20 quid.

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How much are you in for on this table?

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50 quid is what you're in for, is it?

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-A bit more than that.

-How much?

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-100?

-100 quid. I think you're going 50% too expensive.

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I want you to do well, please do well, please learn,

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but in the end you get there.

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-I tell you to know it is a fantastic pleasure, OK?

-Yes.

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So look, boy, go get them,

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come back and see us again and shake it, and good luck on your hunt.

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APPLAUSE

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-Thank you.

-You're most welcome.

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We've got a painting of a vase.

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Please tell me

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you've got the vase as well.

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You have. And they match.

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-Yes, they do, indeed.

-So what's going on?

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In 2006, the Burslem Festival had a competition

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to design a vase, which Moorcroft would then make for the winners

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and my daughter Caroline, I said she should enter

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and the night before the deadline

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finally she got round to designing, doing a few designs

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and painting that picture.

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She was 17, she won the 17+ category

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and they made the vase, which is a one-off.

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I think they've made a pretty good job of it, haven't they?

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-Yes, it is lovely.

-What does your daughter do now?

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She's a graphic designer.

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She went to Glasgow School of Art

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and did an exchange while she was there

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to the Pratt Institute in New York

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and met someone who is now her husband.

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So, hence, as soon as she graduated, she went to New York.

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It's a fairytale in clay, isn't it?

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It is sort of all her dreams have come true.

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-So do you know who the artists are?

-No, no.

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Well, they've put their mark on the bottom.

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We've got HM there for Hayley Moore,

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who did the painting,

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and then MP for Marie Penkethman,

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and she did the tubelining

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and Marie is one of the pre-eminent tubeliners at Moorcroft.

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You see how beautifully it is done.

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It's a great piece of Moorcroft.

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It's modern, as you say, it's 2006, and people might be saying,

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"What are we doing with a vase from 2006 on Antiques Roadshow?"

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But I think it tells an amazing story,

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not just about the fact your daughter clearly has talent,

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but I think it tells the stories of the Potteries

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and we are here in Stoke-on-Trent today and potteries have

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always survived or not survived by the quality of their design.

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And even though this is a modern piece, if that and the

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original drawing came to the market,

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it's going to make £1,000 to £1,500 at auction.

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-But, actually...

-No, it's not really relevant.

-It's not worth it, is it?

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-Mother's determination.

-THEY LAUGH

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-I'll give you that back.

-Thank you very much.

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-I think you're very proud of that, aren't you?

-Oh, yes, very.

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-I would be too. Thank you very much.

-Thank you, thank you.

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This is a very striking picture of four people

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and they've got such expressions on their faces.

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I see it's signed A Berry,

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which I know is Arthur Berry, the local artist here

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and it's a lovely mixed media, actually.

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It looks like watercolour and gouache.

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-And he's well known locally, isn't he?

-Oh, absolutely.

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There are fans, passionate fans of Arthur Berry in the district.

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And he trained locally, didn't he?

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Absolutely, he went to Burslem School of Art, where all

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the young people went who were going to go into the

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pottery industry as painters and designers

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and he was offered then a place at the Royal College of Art.

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This is in the Second World War and developed from then on.

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And he really did, and you look at this

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and he's developed his very distinctive style.

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And what does it mean to you? Is it nice to own?

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It's wonderful to own because it brings back

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so much of Arthur's character,

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the humour that he saw around him

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but also the grime, the poverty,

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the difficult lives people had.

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You certainly have it in this picture.

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And I think it's really interesting

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cos I travel around with this programme and we were

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up in Durham last year and we saw

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the pit artists painting up there.

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You go to Salford, you've got Lowry

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and it's amazingly industrial regions and here we are

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in Stoke-on-Trent and you have an artist who is

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recording life as it is for the poor

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and also for the fading industrial town of Stoke,

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you know the old factories etc, which is what Arthur did

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and, you know, he's not a well-known artist outside this area,

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really as far as coming up in auction.

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But that's not the point because

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I think people will love this

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and he's someone for the future, definitely.

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I mean, if I was asked to put a value on this, I would certainly

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put £1,000 to £1,500 on it.

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Yes, yes.

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And if I was a collector, I would certainly go after his work

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because these artists are getting rediscovered

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because they were painting a disappearing life, really.

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-It's Gandalf's staff.

-It is, isn't it?

-It's parted the Red Sea!

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It's a leg from a Salvador Dali horse on a painting.

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It's the most wonderful sort of abstract,

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it looks like it's growing out of the ground.

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Yeah, I agree.

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-What do you use it for?

-It just hangs on the wall.

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When people come and say, "What is it?"

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I say, "I haven't a clue, you tell me!"

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When I first saw it, I thought it might be some sort of tribal weapon.

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You sometimes find tribal weapons with these

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large knobs on the top that were thrown or used to hit people.

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But I don't think it's that at all.

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But rather curiously,

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it sort of doesn't seem to perform its function very well.

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-It bends and it sort of wobbles.

-Hmm.

-It's a rather curious object.

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-It is.

-Do you like it?

-Yes, I love it.

-I can see that it's had care.

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It's also got this sort of fantastic pattern.

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It's nice and shiny, it's got a good grain

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-and it's got a lovely colour.

-Yes.

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And I would do exactly what you do with it.

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I would probably mount it on a plinth

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and I would display it in the corner of the room, dramatically lit.

0:25:340:25:37

Oh, crikey!

0:25:370:25:39

-Dramatically lit?

-SHE LAUGHS

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I don't think so!

0:25:420:25:44

-That's taking it a bit far, is it?

-Just a bit.

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So, what do you think of this? If you're going to inherit this.

0:25:470:25:49

THEY LAUGH

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-Is this something you would display in your home?

-Yes!

0:25:510:25:54

Dramatically lit and cool, isn't it?

0:25:540:25:55

Now, that's just copying, that's plagiarism!

0:25:550:25:59

We may not know exactly what it is, I think it's just effectively

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-a late 19th-century carved, perhaps holly staff.

-Yes.

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But I think it would do incredibly well in an auction.

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I think if you put that in,

0:26:070:26:08

it might be estimated to fetch somewhere between £100 and £150.

0:26:080:26:12

Get off! Really?

0:26:120:26:13

-It's just a lovely thing.

-You do surprise me!

0:26:130:26:17

It's not going anywhere except on my wall.

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You know, I'm jolly relieved to hear that.

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Because I thought quite frankly, after that valuation,

0:26:220:26:25

-you might me giving me some stick.

-THEY LAUGH

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Our challenge this week concerns

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four pieces of early 19th-century jewellery.

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One is an impostor.

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Now, three are 18-carat gold, one is pinchbeck, and that's a cheap alloy.

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So, all that glistens here is most definitely not gold.

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But which is which?

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Susan Rumfitt, you're our jewellery expert.

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You brought these along. First of all, pinchbeck.

0:27:010:27:04

-Because I did a quick survey here. Who's heard of pinchbeck?

-No.

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Nobody. So, tell us more about it?

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Pinchbeck was an 18th-century invention

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by Christopher Pinchbeck, who was actually a clockmaker.

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And he decided that there needed to be a metal

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that was more affordable than the standardised 18-carat gold,

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which was the main gold in existence at the time.

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So, he produced this alloy, which is mainly zinc and copper

0:27:240:27:29

and he put this out into the market and well, we have the effects.

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Very difficult to tell the difference

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between 18-carat gold and pinchbeck.

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So, if it's got a lot of copper in it,

0:27:380:27:41

-does it have a slightly rosy tinge to it?

-It can do, yes.

0:27:410:27:46

But of course, gold can show a bit of a coppery look to it as well.

0:27:460:27:50

Well, if you want to have a guess at home,

0:27:500:27:54

Susan's got some clues for you.

0:27:540:27:55

'This gorgeous bracelet finished with enamel was made in the 1820s.

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'But does it bear the telltale signs of discolouration

0:28:010:28:03

'you'd see in pinchbeck?

0:28:030:28:06

'This bracelet, decorated with garnets,

0:28:060:28:08

'was made in the 1820s or '30s.

0:28:080:28:10

'But are signs of wear and tear due to its age

0:28:100:28:13

'or evidence of a metal that doesn't endure as well as real gold?

0:28:130:28:16

'Is this aquamarine brooch dating from around 1820

0:28:180:28:20

'the work of a high society goldsmith or a jeweller

0:28:200:28:23

'using highly versatile pinchbeck metal

0:28:230:28:25

'to imitate the finest craftsmanship?

0:28:250:28:28

'And this elegant turquoise necklace produced in the early 19th century

0:28:280:28:32

'is as bright as it was in 1820.

0:28:320:28:35

'But was this because it was looked after well

0:28:350:28:37

'or because pinchbeck retains its bright gold colour?'

0:28:370:28:40

Well, I suppose the first thing I need to do is pick these up, then.

0:28:410:28:44

-Yes.

-And see. So this is gossamer light.

0:28:440:28:48

But then, you know, it's a very fine little piece. This...

0:28:490:28:52

Well, it's got the stone in it, obviously.

0:28:530:28:56

So that doesn't help me enormously. So this... That's heavy.

0:28:560:28:59

You think this could be the pinchbeck? That's heavier.

0:28:590:29:03

What makes you think that's pinchbeck? You just don't like it.

0:29:030:29:06

-It looks a bit cheaper, yes.

-Cheaper? Right, OK.

0:29:060:29:08

I'm not sure that's the criteria for deciding. And then...

0:29:080:29:12

Well, the thing is they're all light, Susan.

0:29:140:29:16

OK, I'm really stumped.

0:29:160:29:17

Let's have a show of hands here

0:29:170:29:19

because I have to say, I have no idea.

0:29:190:29:20

So, who thinks it's the necklace?

0:29:200:29:22

Nobody.

0:29:230:29:24

The brooch? The brooch?

0:29:240:29:26

-The brooch is not going down well, Susan.

-No, it isn't, is it?

0:29:270:29:30

The bracelet?

0:29:300:29:31

-Hmm.

-And what about this bracelet at the end?

0:29:330:29:35

You think it's this one? Yeah?

0:29:350:29:37

-Right? OK.

-It's pretty split.

0:29:370:29:41

OK, I'm going for the brooch. Do you know why I'm going for the brooch?

0:29:410:29:44

-I just don't like it very much. I know.

-That's a shame.

0:29:440:29:46

-It is but you know, got to go for something.

-Poor brooch!

0:29:460:29:49

So put us out of our misery then, Susan. Which is it?

0:29:490:29:51

-Well, the brooch is saved. It was the bracelet.

-Oh, it's that! Oh!

0:29:510:29:56

THEY LAUGH

0:29:560:29:58

-Right.

-Oh, no!

0:29:580:30:00

Right, come on, talk us through it then.

0:30:000:30:02

OK, so the bracelet itself is really bright

0:30:020:30:04

and so, that would be my first gut instinct that it wasn't right.

0:30:040:30:08

But when you pick it up and look at the links and the way

0:30:080:30:10

that they're formed, there are the signs of wear between the links.

0:30:100:30:14

So, show me, for example?

0:30:140:30:15

Just, well, if you look inside, it's all a bit black and grey

0:30:150:30:18

and creates that blackness.

0:30:180:30:19

If it was gold, it wouldn't be like that.

0:30:190:30:21

It wouldn't be like that, no.

0:30:210:30:23

The aquamarine brooch, it does look too good to be true,

0:30:230:30:25

doesn't it, really?

0:30:250:30:26

But again, the quality of the flowers on there

0:30:260:30:28

is just exceptional.

0:30:280:30:30

What is interesting is, though, the values of them.

0:30:300:30:33

The fact that pinchbeck has become so rare over time,

0:30:330:30:37

now something like this will cost, in a good antique shop,

0:30:370:30:40

about £1,800 to buy.

0:30:400:30:42

-Really?

-Which is extraordinary.

0:30:420:30:44

Which is more than basically, certainly the aquamarine brooch,

0:30:440:30:48

which is gold and that's around about £1,200.

0:30:480:30:51

Well, I hope you do better than I just have.

0:30:510:30:53

If you've got 18-carat gold at home

0:30:530:30:55

-and you want to know if it's pinchbeck, look inside.

-Look inside.

0:30:550:30:58

Feel the weight and look inside.

0:30:580:31:00

And if you've got some you're not sure, bring it along to a roadshow.

0:31:000:31:03

This is an extraordinary plaque. Where did you get it from?

0:31:060:31:12

I've had it for 28 years

0:31:120:31:13

-and it was left in a will from my great aunt who lived in London.

-Hmm.

0:31:130:31:19

I've seen plenty of these in my time.

0:31:190:31:22

They're usually English.

0:31:220:31:24

And they were painted by women

0:31:260:31:27

who went to classes.

0:31:270:31:30

It was a done thing for women to paint plaques

0:31:300:31:33

or teapots or whatever came to hand.

0:31:330:31:36

This was unusual because it's continental. In fact, it's German.

0:31:360:31:41

It dates from about 1875, something around there.

0:31:420:31:46

Most are pretty awful but this one's spectacular.

0:31:460:31:50

The person that painted this really knew what they were doing.

0:31:500:31:54

Um, this lace work in white enamel is superb.

0:31:550:32:01

These cabochons in turquoise are made in slight relief

0:32:020:32:08

but they're painted in a way that suggests that they're standing out.

0:32:080:32:13

Now, very often with these portraits,

0:32:140:32:19

there is iconography,

0:32:190:32:22

which tells you something about who the person was.

0:32:220:32:26

And we have got it in spades all over here.

0:32:280:32:31

We've got round her neck...

0:32:320:32:34

..the locket with a gentleman's face on it.

0:32:360:32:40

So, who is he?

0:32:400:32:41

She's wearing a collar which says "Deo Gloria",

0:32:430:32:47

to the glory of God. Why?

0:32:470:32:50

Is she going to go into a nunnery?

0:32:500:32:52

What's happened to him?

0:32:530:32:55

Has he died and she's decided to go into a nunnery?

0:32:550:32:58

She is staring into the distance.

0:32:580:33:02

She's dreaming about what has happened

0:33:020:33:07

or what is about to happen.

0:33:070:33:09

What's it worth?

0:33:110:33:13

£2,500.

0:33:130:33:16

It's a great, great thing.

0:33:160:33:18

-Right.

-Thank you very much.

-OK, no, thank you very much.

0:33:180:33:21

Do you know what this is called?

0:33:240:33:25

I believe it's a marriage cup or a wager cup.

0:33:250:33:28

A wager cup is exactly what it is.

0:33:280:33:30

Do you know why they're called wager cups?

0:33:300:33:32

Erm, presumably they put wine in

0:33:320:33:35

and then try and drink from it without spilling it.

0:33:350:33:38

You're absolutely right, that's exactly what it is.

0:33:380:33:40

-You gamble on it.

-Yes.

0:33:400:33:41

The idea is you fill up that cup with liquid,

0:33:410:33:44

with some wine presumably.

0:33:440:33:45

-Then you turn it over.

-Oh.

0:33:450:33:47

And you fill up that end with more wine or spirit.

0:33:470:33:51

And the idea is that

0:33:510:33:53

-you drink out of it.

-Oh.

0:33:530:33:55

-And you do it without spilling a drop from the bottom part.

-Oh.

0:33:550:33:59

And if you do it right, you win your wager.

0:33:590:34:02

And the idea of them,

0:34:020:34:03

it actually comes from Holland in the 17th century.

0:34:030:34:08

It's made in London in 1909, the hallmark's 1909,

0:34:080:34:12

and it's made by a firm called D & J Welby.

0:34:120:34:15

They're always good quality,

0:34:150:34:17

nothing that they made is ever shoddy.

0:34:170:34:19

How did you happen on it?

0:34:190:34:22

I bought it from a friend.

0:34:220:34:24

But he bought it originally from a car-boot sale.

0:34:240:34:28

-Oh, go on.

-For 50 pence.

-Did he?

-Hmm.

0:34:280:34:31

And he asked, he showed it me and was, "Do you want to sell it?"

0:34:310:34:35

And we settled on £50.

0:34:350:34:37

I liked it and I like silver.

0:34:370:34:39

Well, I think you were quite shrewd to buy that.

0:34:390:34:43

Because it would make

0:34:430:34:44

somewhere in the order of £300 to £350 at auction.

0:34:440:34:47

-Brilliant!

-So that was quite a good wager for you, then, wasn't it?

0:34:470:34:50

Yes, it was! Brilliant wager.

0:34:500:34:52

As someone who's lived in Stoke-on-Trent, albeit briefly,

0:34:540:34:58

I have a huge attachment to the city and its history.

0:34:580:35:00

I think it's a marvellous place.

0:35:000:35:03

Erm, and it's a great centre of craftsmanship.

0:35:030:35:05

But of course, pottery, we all know about pottery,

0:35:050:35:08

it's the great city of pots.

0:35:080:35:10

But that craftsmanship to me is much wider.

0:35:100:35:12

Here we're looking at ironwork. So what's the story here?

0:35:120:35:16

Well, it started in 1873.

0:35:160:35:18

My great-grandfather did an apprenticeship

0:35:180:35:21

to be a coach-builder.

0:35:210:35:23

And when he finished the apprenticeship in 1880,

0:35:230:35:25

he started a wrought iron company in Tunstall called William Durose.

0:35:250:35:30

Right.

0:35:300:35:31

And then his sons continued the business

0:35:310:35:34

and eventually, my father was the last person in the business.

0:35:340:35:38

And they made wrought ironwork not only locally

0:35:380:35:41

but throughout the country and throughout the world.

0:35:410:35:44

-So, a famous name. I mean, I've heard that name.

-Right, yeah.

0:35:440:35:47

-Because it's part of the history of the city, isn't it?

-That's it, yes.

0:35:470:35:50

But it all fits into that period.

0:35:500:35:51

You know, this is the Arts and Crafts movement.

0:35:510:35:53

I mean, a piece like this, who made that?

0:35:530:35:55

That was made by the original William Durose.

0:35:550:35:58

It's classic Arts and Crafts - it's wonderful craftsmanship,

0:35:580:36:01

it's full of that sort of sense of integrity and creativity

0:36:010:36:05

of the late 19th century.

0:36:050:36:07

And so, these gates are the sort of thing the company did.

0:36:070:36:10

-That's it. These are iconic Tunstall Park gates.

-Are they still there?

0:36:100:36:15

-They're still there.

-So they're a lasting memorial.

0:36:150:36:17

That's it, they were made in 1904.

0:36:170:36:19

But having said we're not talking about pottery, of course we are.

0:36:190:36:23

Because who's that?

0:36:230:36:25

Well, that's my father. And the business was 100 years old in 1980.

0:36:250:36:32

And my mother knew Peggy Davies,

0:36:320:36:34

who was a sculptress at the Royal Doulton's.

0:36:340:36:37

And she made this as a unique one-off piece.

0:36:370:36:42

What, to mark that centenary?

0:36:420:36:44

To mark the centenary, used my father's photograph, which is here.

0:36:440:36:47

What did your father think when he saw it?

0:36:470:36:49

Well, it was a total surprise and he thought it was fantastic

0:36:490:36:52

and obviously, it's a family heirloom now

0:36:520:36:55

so it can be passed down to my children.

0:36:550:36:58

You throw out the name Peggy Davies quite casually.

0:36:580:37:01

She was totally local,

0:37:010:37:03

Burslem School of Art at the age of 12, came through the ranks.

0:37:030:37:06

You know, she is the greatest modeller in that amazing story.

0:37:060:37:11

So, what happened to the factory?

0:37:110:37:13

Unfortunately, I had to close the business

0:37:130:37:15

and it was knocked down and now it's a superstore.

0:37:150:37:19

That's... That's the fate of historic industry today.

0:37:200:37:23

That's right, yes.

0:37:230:37:25

Values? God knows.

0:37:250:37:26

I mean, the ironwork is what it is, it's part of our history.

0:37:260:37:30

Erm, that figure I think to a collector,

0:37:300:37:32

-we're looking at £1,500, £2,000, something like that.

-Right.

0:37:320:37:36

-But it doesn't really matter, does it?

-No, no. No, it won't be sold.

0:37:360:37:40

-Thank you.

-Thank you very much, thank you.

0:37:400:37:42

Well, of all the local Staffordshire potters,

0:37:470:37:50

the best known and most successful was Wedgwood.

0:37:500:37:52

And of course Wedgwood doesn't come any better than these!

0:37:520:37:55

-Tell me about the caps.

-Well, this front cap here is my

0:37:570:38:00

third-generation great-granddad.

0:38:000:38:02

That's his England cap when he played for England

0:38:020:38:05

in 1886 against Ireland.

0:38:050:38:06

Because jasperware was Wedgwood's great invention,

0:38:080:38:10

it's what he's best known for.

0:38:100:38:12

His method was to stain the background colour

0:38:120:38:14

wonderful rich blues or greens and then to apply

0:38:140:38:19

a decoration in the beautifully modelled white relief.

0:38:190:38:22

And in the kiln, they're fired together

0:38:220:38:23

and the quality doesn't change.

0:38:230:38:25

They're sealed forever.

0:38:250:38:26

This is interesting because 1888, I think,

0:38:280:38:31

was the inaugural year of the Football League.

0:38:310:38:33

And this is obviously a year later.

0:38:330:38:35

Stoke City were one of the teams in the first league.

0:38:350:38:38

-The first league.

-And they finished last, I think.

0:38:380:38:40

-I think I'm right!

-THEY LAUGH

0:38:400:38:43

-These were made in 1775.

-As early as that?

0:38:450:38:49

I suppose a pair like these are worth today, well, just over £2,000.

0:38:490:38:53

To me, they're just perfection.

0:38:540:38:56

If you were to offer them all as one lot in an auction sale,

0:38:570:39:00

you could probably expect an estimate of

0:39:000:39:03

something like £1,000-£1,500.

0:39:030:39:05

It's all right, hey?

0:39:050:39:07

Cheers for that. Cheers.

0:39:070:39:08

The problem with furniture is it doesn't like sun

0:39:250:39:28

and it doesn't like rain.

0:39:280:39:30

And today we've got a bit of both

0:39:300:39:31

so we're under this precautionary umbrella,

0:39:310:39:33

so I hope it'll look after us well.

0:39:330:39:36

Now, one of the reasons we don't want to get this wet is it would

0:39:360:39:41

not help this very pretty painted decoration on the top of this.

0:39:410:39:44

But I gather that's not how you found

0:39:440:39:47

this little piece of furniture.

0:39:470:39:48

Yes, I've got memories of when I was a little boy

0:39:480:39:51

seeing this in the attic painted a lurid pink.

0:39:510:39:55

My goodness, and how did you find that it was not pink?

0:39:550:39:59

Well, I decided I liked the shape of it. And so, I sent it to be dipped.

0:39:590:40:04

I thought it was probably pine.

0:40:040:40:06

But that would have ruined it,

0:40:060:40:08

it would have taken all the decoration off.

0:40:080:40:10

So, how do we get left with this?

0:40:100:40:12

Well, the restorer rang me up and he said he must have tried

0:40:120:40:15

a little bit or noticed there was a design, possibly.

0:40:150:40:18

He said he was going to strip it by hand.

0:40:180:40:21

Well, you were very lucky to find a sensitive restorer

0:40:210:40:24

who didn't just plunge the whole thing into an acid bath.

0:40:240:40:27

-So, it's a very recognisable shape.

-Hmm.

0:40:270:40:31

-And you know and I know that, in fact, it is a wash stand.

-Yes.

0:40:310:40:37

So, this lifts up.

0:40:370:40:40

And that folds out.

0:40:400:40:42

So, here you have the en-suite of the day.

0:40:420:40:45

Ah, yes.

0:40:450:40:46

Tucked into the corner, very handy.

0:40:460:40:48

So, it hasn't got its basins any more.

0:40:480:40:50

And I'm a little bit doubtful actually about the colour here.

0:40:500:40:55

I think this might have gone with the psychedelic pink.

0:40:550:40:57

It is a very Regency shape, it's got a slightly splayed legs,

0:40:570:41:00

this bowed front.

0:41:000:41:01

It's the kind of thing you'll find in design books by Hepplewhite

0:41:010:41:05

at the end of the 18th century.

0:41:050:41:07

-I think it could be American.

-Oh, gosh!

0:41:070:41:10

Well, I don't know but there is a great tradition in America

0:41:100:41:14

of stencilled and painted decoration

0:41:140:41:16

of very much this kind coming from what they call the federal period,

0:41:160:41:20

which is the equivalent of our Regency.

0:41:200:41:22

So, I would put this at around 1820.

0:41:220:41:25

It's really delightful, I think stencilled

0:41:250:41:28

and then hand-painted on top of that to give the detail.

0:41:280:41:31

As it is, it's very much in the decorator market.

0:41:310:41:35

And I would like to say that you can expect between £500 and £800.

0:41:350:41:42

-That would be a nice surprise, yes.

-Nice. Really good.

0:41:420:41:46

Thank you very much, that's interesting. Very interesting.

0:41:460:41:49

Thanks.

0:41:490:41:50

On the face of it, this looks like a bit of a conundrum,

0:41:530:41:55

I have to confess. OK,

0:41:550:41:58

so top right-hand corner of this scroll, if you like.

0:41:580:42:01

-Malta.

-That's right.

-And a Maltese cross.

0:42:010:42:04

-In the middle, this is a white Russian flag.

-Oh!

0:42:040:42:08

So, the flag of the Imperial side during the Russian Revolution.

0:42:080:42:12

And the whole of the rest of the sheet is covered with signatures,

0:42:130:42:16

which even I can see are pretty well all Russian names.

0:42:160:42:19

The date, 1919 here.

0:42:190:42:21

You're going to have to help me a little bit.

0:42:220:42:24

Do you know what this is?

0:42:240:42:25

Can you tell me something about its background?

0:42:250:42:27

I just know it's passed down through the family.

0:42:270:42:30

It belonged to my father, who had it off his father

0:42:300:42:33

and it was his grandfather's brother's originally,

0:42:330:42:37

that's who the Major Smith is.

0:42:370:42:39

-So, you're from the Smith family?

-That's right, yeah.

-Right.

0:42:390:42:43

So, "Major Smith, we Russian refugees beg you to accept

0:42:430:42:48

"this humble gift with our best wishes and thanks.

0:42:480:42:51

"Malta, 9th September 1919."

0:42:510:42:54

-Yeah.

-And then we see all of these Russian names.

0:42:540:42:59

Here, look, the Prince and Princess Obolensky.

0:42:590:43:03

Nicolas Stroganoff.

0:43:030:43:04

I keep seeing the word count,

0:43:060:43:08

I see the word prince and princess several times.

0:43:080:43:11

I can even make out here...

0:43:110:43:13

-I think this says the Empress of Russia.

-Yeah!

0:43:130:43:16

So, I think what we have here is a certificate, if you like,

0:43:160:43:20

put together as a token of thanks by the Russian refugees

0:43:200:43:26

-from the Russian Revolution.

-Yeah.

0:43:260:43:28

Those who had escaped Russia.

0:43:280:43:30

We think that the Tsar himself Nicholas II and his family

0:43:300:43:34

had been shot and executed in 1918, this is the following year.

0:43:340:43:38

This is, I suppose, what was left of the Imperial government.

0:43:380:43:43

And they were evacuated with the help of the British Navy and Army

0:43:430:43:47

and this is where I think Major Smith comes in.

0:43:470:43:49

-They were evacuated to Malta.

-Yeah.

0:43:490:43:52

So, this is a really extraordinary piece!

0:43:520:43:55

It's full of important names,

0:43:550:43:57

full of names of people who will have descendants today

0:43:570:44:00

who will be fascinated to find that their forebears

0:44:000:44:02

were named on here in this historical occasion.

0:44:020:44:05

Being Russian of course, some of those descendants may be wealthy

0:44:050:44:08

and certainly would be people enthusiastic about buying

0:44:080:44:11

items of their history back, I suppose.

0:44:110:44:13

So I'd be very confident in putting a figure

0:44:130:44:16

of £3,000 to £4,000 on this.

0:44:160:44:18

Wow!

0:44:180:44:20

-Worth the journey!

-SHE LAUGHS

0:44:220:44:25

-I'm very glad you brought it. Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:44:250:44:28

Here we are in the heart of the Potteries

0:44:300:44:33

and I wonder how many people watching the roadshow

0:44:330:44:36

and eating their supper

0:44:360:44:39

have ever thought about the plates that they're eating off.

0:44:390:44:42

We tend to take pottery for granted, it's something which is part of

0:44:420:44:45

our lives and we tend not to think about the people

0:44:450:44:47

who actually made them.

0:44:470:44:48

But you know all about one aspect of making, which is engraving.

0:44:480:44:53

How's that?

0:44:530:44:54

Well, my grandfather was a copper plate engraver at Wedgwood's

0:44:540:44:59

for many, many years.

0:44:590:45:00

And he didn't retire until he was about 73, 74.

0:45:000:45:06

Because of the War, the lack of skilled people.

0:45:060:45:10

There'd be no young apprentices coming through, exactly.

0:45:100:45:12

And the most bizarre thing is that as you arrived this morning

0:45:120:45:17

with these tissue pools from the copper plates,

0:45:170:45:21

-somebody else in the queue arrived with copper plates.

-Yes.

0:45:210:45:24

And it was like they both came together

0:45:240:45:26

and we've got the whole story.

0:45:260:45:28

And I think we just don't appreciate the skill.

0:45:280:45:30

These are hand-engraved, little taps of a hammer individually.

0:45:300:45:35

The deeper the hammer goes, the darker the colour is.

0:45:350:45:38

And then from this plate, it would all be inked up,

0:45:380:45:42

it's then scraped off with a knife and then rubbed down with corduroy.

0:45:420:45:46

And then the tissue is laid on, it transfers the ink to the tissue,

0:45:460:45:50

the tissue then goes on to the ware.

0:45:500:45:52

These were some of the most valuable things a pottery owned

0:45:520:45:55

because the amount of time and skill that went into them.

0:45:550:45:58

Often the engravers and the modellers

0:45:580:46:00

were the most well-paid people at the pottery.

0:46:000:46:03

So your grandfather would have been...

0:46:030:46:05

Well, not a wealthy man but comparatively wealthy.

0:46:050:46:07

Yes, I suppose.

0:46:070:46:08

But what amazing skill and you can see on this one here,

0:46:080:46:11

not only did they have to have the skills to engrave

0:46:110:46:14

but you have to get the curvature right to fit around the plate.

0:46:140:46:18

And when you look at this one here,

0:46:180:46:21

particularly you can see where the join is there.

0:46:210:46:23

-And also, if you see, notice this green spot?

-Yes, yes.

0:46:230:46:27

-That's because this is a second.

-Yes.

0:46:270:46:29

-So, even though he engraved this...

-That's right.

0:46:290:46:31

..he's probably seen this one's been rejected, thought,

0:46:310:46:34

-"Right, I'll have that and keep that."

-Yes, that's right.

0:46:340:46:36

Because people who worked in properties were very proud

0:46:360:46:39

but in a very modest way.

0:46:390:46:40

They knew the skill they had but they didn't really celebrate it.

0:46:400:46:43

I think what's fascinating about meeting people like yourself

0:46:430:46:46

is that often this is unsung work, this was just a job they were doing.

0:46:460:46:50

A very skilled job, admittedly.

0:46:500:46:52

-We should celebrate it more.

-Yes.

0:46:520:46:54

Because behind every ordinary plate are many, many hands

0:46:540:46:59

-that made the final product and we never talk about them.

-No.

0:46:590:47:02

-The awful thing is there's not a lot of value here.

-No, I know that.

0:47:020:47:06

The copper plates themselves, maybe with the exception of this one -

0:47:060:47:09

this is actually a plate for a pot lid.

0:47:090:47:12

Pot lids with bear-baiting scenes

0:47:120:47:14

are the most desirable pot lids there are.

0:47:140:47:16

So, to a pot lid collector, they would want to have this

0:47:160:47:20

-and they might well pay £500 to £800 for this one.

-Gosh.

0:47:200:47:24

The other ones are probably frankly worth a little bit more

0:47:240:47:27

than what the scrap value is.

0:47:270:47:29

-Your collection, the tissue sample, this is one of many.

-Hmm.

0:47:290:47:32

And the associated plates.

0:47:320:47:34

To a ceramic geek like myself...

0:47:350:47:38

-£400, £500, £600 perhaps.

-Oh, OK.

-But to you, priceless memories.

0:47:380:47:42

They're just priceless, yes.

0:47:420:47:43

And as I say, a celebration of what was made here.

0:47:430:47:45

-And what's still made here today.

-That's right.

-Thank you very much.

0:47:450:47:48

Thank you, thank you, it's very interesting.

0:47:480:47:50

So, what do we have here? A little miniature carriage clock.

0:47:530:47:55

Yeah, my grandfather was the manager of a local jewellery shop

0:47:550:47:59

and people used to bring things in that they wanted to sell.

0:47:590:48:03

And if he liked something, he'd buy it himself.

0:48:030:48:05

-That's where I think it comes from.

-Do you know who made it?

-No, no.

0:48:050:48:09

All it says on the back is Paris, so I've no idea.

0:48:090:48:12

-Well, that's a pretty good start, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:48:120:48:14

So we know that it's French-made and in France,

0:48:140:48:16

they made them in the hundreds of thousands but in England,

0:48:160:48:19

they made them more in the tens of thousands in the 19th century.

0:48:190:48:22

So, French carriage clocks, much more numerous

0:48:220:48:24

and therefore worth less.

0:48:240:48:25

However, what I particularly like about this are two things.

0:48:250:48:29

-Firstly, that it has the original gilding.

-Yes.

0:48:290:48:32

And secondly, that it is

0:48:320:48:35

-such a small and pretty size.

-Lovely.

-Yeah.

0:48:350:48:38

We've got other carriage clocks, bigger ones

0:48:380:48:40

but that one has always been my favourite.

0:48:400:48:42

So, taking into account that it is

0:48:420:48:44

what we call a sub-miniature carriage timepiece,

0:48:440:48:47

we're talking at auction between £700 and £1,000.

0:48:470:48:51

Wow!

0:48:510:48:52

-Wow, it's not going anywhere anyway.

-Oh, don't say that.

0:48:520:48:56

Say, "Yippee, I'm going to flog it!" Fantastic!

0:48:560:48:59

No, it won't go anywhere. That's lovely to know, yeah.

0:48:590:49:01

Wow, this is bright.

0:49:030:49:04

Someone's been busy with the polish and the cleaner.

0:49:040:49:07

Er, not exactly.

0:49:070:49:08

It would be polished maybe once every five years

0:49:080:49:11

but seeing this week, I had the idea of bringing it here,

0:49:110:49:15

needed something quick.

0:49:150:49:17

So I took it down the garden, put it on the patio table,

0:49:170:49:19

laid it out flat.

0:49:190:49:21

Got some cola, a couple of litres.

0:49:210:49:23

Poured the cola over it, left it 12 hours.

0:49:230:49:26

-Come back to it the next day, it had lifted all that tarnish off.

-Wow.

0:49:260:49:30

Well, it's as bright as a new pin, isn't it now?

0:49:300:49:33

It probably would have been silver-plated in the first place.

0:49:330:49:37

Erm, the reason I suggest this is

0:49:370:49:40

because it's inscribed down here for Elkington & Co,

0:49:400:49:43

who were a very famous Victorian firm based in Birmingham.

0:49:430:49:47

Metalware but largely silver-plated metalware.

0:49:470:49:51

The casting is very sharp. The lettering is wonderful.

0:49:510:49:54

Sir Joseph Whitworth, Baronet.

0:49:540:49:56

Do you know anything about the individual who is portrayed here?

0:49:560:50:00

So, Joseph Whitworth, erm, world-famous engineer.

0:50:000:50:04

Originated the screw thread.

0:50:040:50:07

He had the idea that in the 1870s, 1890s, he wanted to try

0:50:070:50:12

to make it universal in the railways.

0:50:120:50:15

-Everyone used the same thread.

-I see, I see.

0:50:150:50:17

So, if it was in India or South America,

0:50:170:50:19

they would have the Whitworth thread.

0:50:190:50:21

-So, it's a specific railway interest.

-Yes.

0:50:210:50:23

And it's a local thing, you found it locally?

0:50:230:50:25

A builder took it off a building from Crewe Railway Works.

0:50:270:50:32

I saw it a few months later because I used to do contract work for him.

0:50:330:50:37

And I said, "Would you like to part with it, Mike?" "No, no."

0:50:370:50:40

Saw him 12 months later, "Would you like...?" "No, no."

0:50:400:50:43

He said, "I tell you what I do want."

0:50:430:50:45

He said, "I'd like a key old desk."

0:50:450:50:46

I said, "All right, leave it with me."

0:50:460:50:48

So a friend of mine was selling a desk, £5.

0:50:480:50:51

HE CHUCKLES

0:50:510:50:53

Yeah, I'll give you £5 for it, Pete, no problem.

0:50:530:50:56

Saw the builder later. "You want to do a swap?"

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-"Yeah, I'll do it, yeah, definitely."

-Fantastic.

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So, of course it wasn't in this condition, it was very, very dark.

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Because it'd been on the building wall for over 100 years.

0:51:040:51:07

I think you've done well out of the deal for that five quid desk.

0:51:070:51:10

I think that if you entered this into an auction sale now,

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you could probably expect somewhere in the region of £500 to £800.

0:51:130:51:17

Very good, shall we start the bidding today?

0:51:170:51:19

OTHERS CHUCKLE

0:51:190:51:21

This is just sublime, it's a fabulous, fabulous vase.

0:51:240:51:29

-Of which you have a pair.

-Mm-hm.

0:51:290:51:31

So, tell us about them in your life.

0:51:310:51:33

Well, I've always known them.

0:51:340:51:37

Er, my understanding is that my grandfather

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was a travelling salesman for the Irish Linen Company.

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And...

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..best of my knowledge, he visited Czechoslovakia in the 1930s

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and these have been in the family since.

0:51:540:51:57

-OK. And do you like them?

-Found their way down to me. I love them.

0:51:570:52:00

Oh, I can't say I blame you.

0:52:000:52:02

Over the centuries, certain European glassworks have emerged as greats.

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And there are not many of them.

0:52:090:52:12

There's Baccarat in France.

0:52:120:52:14

And the other one that really comes to mind is Moser.

0:52:150:52:18

Leo Moser founded this firm in the 19th century.

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And quality was always paramount.

0:52:240:52:27

There has never been rubbish Moser.

0:52:270:52:30

What you have here is an acid etching, a resist.

0:52:300:52:34

A rubbery-type material is laid over all the areas

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which are to remain on the original surface.

0:52:390:52:42

And then the vase is immersed in an extremely aggressive acid.

0:52:420:52:46

So, all the areas which are now blue, cobalt blue,

0:52:460:52:49

have been eaten back by the acid,

0:52:490:52:52

leaving the elephants and the palm trees.

0:52:520:52:55

It is without doubt Moser

0:52:560:52:58

because we have a very clear signature on the base here.

0:52:580:53:04

But it's not the best signature. There's a superior signature.

0:53:040:53:08

Oh, right.

0:53:080:53:09

-Which is just there.

-Really?

-You ever seen it?

0:53:110:53:14

-No, I have not noticed that.

-It says "Moser, Karlsbad".

0:53:140:53:19

-Just there, hidden in the vegetation.

-Yes.

0:53:190:53:21

So, you've got a heap of work here.

0:53:210:53:24

Quality is the word that comes to mind.

0:53:260:53:28

This is hours and hours of expert labour.

0:53:280:53:32

Designed in 1925.

0:53:320:53:34

-What do you reckon the pair of these is worth?

-Maybe £1,000.

0:53:340:53:37

These as a pair at auction are five times greater than you imagined.

0:53:390:53:44

They're either £4,000 to £5,000, the pair.

0:53:440:53:48

-Oh, wow!

-Very, very good things.

0:53:480:53:53

Surprising!

0:53:530:53:54

That's my job. And it's one of the best parts of my job.

0:53:540:53:57

This is one of the most extraordinary watercolours

0:54:010:54:04

I've ever seen on the Antiques Roadshow.

0:54:040:54:06

And before I talk about why I think it is extraordinary,

0:54:060:54:10

I want to look right.

0:54:100:54:12

And we see here a clear signature, Lindner, and date, Paris '35.

0:54:120:54:19

So this is the artist Richard Lindner, who is associated

0:54:190:54:23

with the New York Pop Art scene in the 1950s and '60s.

0:54:230:54:27

And here we have a conductor surrounded rather claustrophobically

0:54:270:54:31

with a whole number of figures.

0:54:310:54:33

-Do you know who the conductor is?

-The conductor's Offenbach.

0:54:330:54:37

So how are you connected to this picture?

0:54:370:54:39

This picture was painted by my uncle, who was my father's brother,

0:54:390:54:44

who grew up in Nuremberg and lived in Paris in the '30s.

0:54:440:54:49

Sadly was in a concentration camp but escaped

0:54:490:54:52

and got to New York, where he became quite famous.

0:54:520:54:56

He was befriended by Andy Warhol

0:54:570:54:59

and John Lennon really liked my uncle's painting.

0:54:590:55:03

And when they designed the Sgt Pepper LP,

0:55:030:55:06

I think John Lennon asked for my uncle's picture to be on that.

0:55:060:55:10

See, this is amazing.

0:55:100:55:12

Because if we look at the lower right of this picture and we look at

0:55:120:55:15

that figure in a red costume on his breastplate and yellow lapels,

0:55:150:55:20

you think of that album cover

0:55:200:55:22

and you think of John on the left-hand side in his yellow

0:55:220:55:25

and George in his red.

0:55:250:55:27

Um, and with Richard being in the picture himself, you wonder whether

0:55:270:55:33

he had the influence on Peter Blake, the album cover, and John.

0:55:330:55:39

So, here's someone in the '30s

0:55:390:55:41

almost anticipating the Pop Art scene in the '50s

0:55:410:55:46

which pretty much started in Britain

0:55:460:55:48

and later on, became very famous in New York with Andy Warhol

0:55:480:55:51

and all his contemporaries.

0:55:510:55:53

And that's the extraordinary thing about this picture.

0:55:530:55:57

So, I have to say, the provenance and your story is unbelievable.

0:55:570:56:02

I mean, he must have had the most extraordinary life.

0:56:020:56:06

What did you like about him?

0:56:060:56:07

The last time I saw him was 1968

0:56:070:56:10

and he got off the train in double denim,

0:56:100:56:13

smoking a little clay pipe, which was amazing for us at that time.

0:56:130:56:17

And he was just a great person to have in the house

0:56:170:56:20

and meet and talk to.

0:56:200:56:22

So, I'm using the word extraordinary because this is all extraordinary.

0:56:220:56:26

We have an amazing family provenance, we have a picture

0:56:260:56:29

that almost anticipates the Pop Art scene in the '50s and '60s.

0:56:290:56:34

And as such, I think this is a real rarity.

0:56:340:56:36

It's actually a very difficult picture to value.

0:56:360:56:40

But I'm just going to put it there.

0:56:400:56:42

-I think it's worth at least £40,000 to £60,000.

-Really!

0:56:420:56:47

That's amazing, thank you!

0:56:470:56:49

-Thank you so much, a truly brilliant picture.

-Thank you.

0:56:490:56:53

So there you have it, the painting that might have inspired

0:56:530:56:56

one of the most iconic album covers of all time.

0:56:560:57:00

The Beatles' Sgt Pepper.

0:57:000:57:01

Of all the tickets I've ever been given, this is the most exciting.

0:57:030:57:08

A ticket to the moon!

0:57:080:57:11

One of our visitors brought this along today.

0:57:110:57:13

It was given to her mum in the 1970s by an airline,

0:57:130:57:15

Trans International Airlines, an American company.

0:57:150:57:18

Ceased trading in the 1980s.

0:57:180:57:20

And if you think about it, 1969, the first man on the moon.

0:57:200:57:24

Everything seemed possible.

0:57:240:57:26

Look, there's even a travel guide, Charters To The Moon.

0:57:260:57:30

And this is my favourite bit.

0:57:300:57:32

"Moon Charter Series, one reservation.

0:57:320:57:34

"Departures, to be announced."

0:57:340:57:37

And 40 years on, we're still waiting!

0:57:370:57:40

From Trentham Gardens and the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye.

0:57:400:57:44

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