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When the actor Colin Firth dived into this lake

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in the TV adaptation of Pride And Prejudice,

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the author, Jane Austen, could not have foreseen

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how hearts would quicken in the national bosom

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as he emerged dripping in his wet blouse.

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Welcome back to a second chapter at Lyme Park in Cheshire.

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Thanks to the revolution in publishing

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brought about by the mass-produced paperback,

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authors like Jane Austen have sold millions.

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Now there's a new revolution.

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With just one click,

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we can download as many books as we like.

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But where did it all start?

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Well, a clue lies within those perfectly pilastered walls.

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Lyme Park is home

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to one of the country's most treasured possessions,

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and you've probably never heard of it.

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You could say it was the hand-held device of its day,

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and it's no overstatement to say it changed the world.

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This is one of the first books to be produced on a printing press.

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It's a prayer book called the Sarum Missal,

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and it's the Adam, or Eve,

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of the mass-produced printed word.

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Its creator, in 1487, was William Caxton,

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and this is his trademark.

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It's been with the former owners of Lyme Park, the Legh family,

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for almost as long as they lived here - over 500 years.

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Of the original print run,

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this is the only one left.

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It's written in Latin,

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except for the marriage service,

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where there are blanks, deliberately,

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so that the man and woman getting married

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could repeat their vows in English.

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So written here is "I, N," - obviously the name -

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"take thee, N, to my wife,

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"to have and to hold, for richer or poorer",

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and on it goes, pretty much the same as the marriage service today.

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Except for this fabulous bit at the end

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where the wife has to promise to be buxom at bed and board.

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The Legh family left Lyme Park with the missal in 1946.

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It returned in 2009

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to the safekeeping of the National Trust.

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Now let's join the congregation on the lawns of this great house.

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-So it is a tea caddy.

-Yes.

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-But in the form of a stack of books.

-Yes.

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I have seen these before, but very rarely.

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When did you first see it?

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I must have probably been about four or five years old,

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just wandering in the living room.

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It was just sat on a bookcase at a little jaunty angle

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and at sort of a low height for me to look at,

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and I remember, when I was younger, trying to look at the books

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and wondering why it didn't quite open properly and all that.

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Then my dad told me not to touch it any more!

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Where did it come from?

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-Where did your father get it from?

-I think he...

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Well, my father's a lawyer,

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so he does sort of probates and stuff like that,

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and I think it was in this lady's house and he...

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You know, obviously he likes antiques,

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so he must have commented to her at some point

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and, when she unfortunately passed away,

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her children gave my father this as a keepsake.

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And what's your interest in objects like this?

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I find antiques completely fascinating and interesting.

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I especially like things like this, you know,

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with, like, a secret, hidden function and things like that.

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So I always like the... Like the book boxes you get

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and the book tea caddies. Just... I think they're interesting.

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So, as tea caddies go,

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the least interesting ones in general

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-are just the standard rectangular ones.

-Yeah.

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And the novelty ones like this

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are probably some of the most fascinating ones.

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And this is quite different, in that it's made of papier-mache,

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with flower-carved, mother-of-pearl handles,

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and even traces of the zinc lining

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inside the two compartments for black tea and green tea.

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And so, in your interest with antiques,

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what date would you put on it?

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I'd probably say it was about 1850,

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maybe 1860 at a guess.

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I agree.

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And there's a bit of a clue here.

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Because there's a reference, one of the books - Pickwick.

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-Yeah.

-And it's the book

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that really made Dickens more sort of very, very widely popular.

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And that was first published in 1837.

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So what value would you place on something like this?

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Erm... Depending on where you saw it...

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I mean, I might... Probably up to £1,000, maybe, in some places.

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At a guess.

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I think your guess is very good.

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I think you've got a great future in antiques,

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because I would estimate it at around £1,000, maybe £1,200.

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So, stack of books, tea caddy -

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it's the dark art of disguise, really, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-Pretty valuable one at that, though.

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Thank you very much.

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So, a sampler of the world.

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-Yes.

-Where did you get it?

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My husband bought it in a local auction house in Macclesfield

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about five years ago.

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OK. And what attracted you to it?

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I think he just thought it was really unusual.

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We've got quite a lot of samplers, but nothing quite like that.

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And, you know, it's very early -

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you can tell by the names of the countries how early it is.

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Well, it's very interesting

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a sampler like this gives us glimpse of the world

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as it was in the 18th century.

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-Yes.

-Cos we've got New Holland, we've got all the South America.

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Some places are, you know, Paraguay...

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But virtually everything is the wrong shape.

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-Yes.

-Because, obviously, when people were doing this,

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they didn't know, as we do now,

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what the countries looked like.

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I mean, If you look at New Holland, Australia,

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this side is quite correct,

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but the rest of it isn't.

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-Yes.

-Again, the Frozen Greenland,

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it's completely wrong in terms of what we know now.

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And, obviously, we've got some things

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that people would find very shocking now.

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Like Negroland.

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-Yes.

-But you have to look at these objects

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-from the perspective of when they were made.

-Yes.

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So, of course, stitched on silk,

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which is why, obviously, you've got quite a bit of damage here.

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-Yeah.

-And this...

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Normally with a sampler, this sort of damage,

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this tearing and fraying,

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would take a lot off the value.

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-Yes.

-But what this has...

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And I think, you know, you've had it framed beautifully,

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it complements exactly what it is.

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It's very similar to... If you think of the globes of this period...

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-Yes.

-..in the little shagreen cases.

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This symbolises that same idea,

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which works incredibly well...

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-Yes.

-..and would have taken a lot of time to do.

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Probably some very aristocratic lady

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sitting stitching this.

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This was very much the passion in the 18th century,

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this is what you did in your spare time

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as a lady of the manor.

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And in terms of value,

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it's quite a difficult one to value,

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because samplers on the whole -

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and you probably know this if you've got samplers -

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samplers have gone down in value quite considerably.

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But this is such an interesting sampler.

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I would put this at between £3,000 and £5,000.

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You're joking?!

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Oh, he'll be very pleased about that!

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Good heavens.

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That's considerably more than he paid for it!

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-That's always nice.

-Yeah!

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The sun has come out on cue

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to show off this fabulous diamond.

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And what also caught my attention as well,

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apart from your wonderful stone,

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is the original receipt that you've brought, too,

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and it's dated 1963.

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And it cost £635.

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Now, who was that who bought it?

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It was my father, for my mother.

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Yes. No particular...

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Nothing special.

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-Nothing special?!

-No!

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THEY LAUGH

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Not for any particular reason that I'm aware of.

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And have you had it valued or anything like that?

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Well, funnily enough you should ask that,

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but about five years ago,

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in this area every so often

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local pubs have, like, people go in and do valuation days for charity.

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So I took it along and, erm...

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they suggested a figure of around about 2,000.

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And I thought, well, perhaps it might be worth a little bit more.

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But I wasn't sure, and that's where I left it.

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That was quite brave of you,

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to go into a pub with a lovely big diamond!

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In hindsight, yes.

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I'm pleased you came out of the pub with the diamond.

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Well, the receipt is 1963,

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and, yes, the mount is probably of that period.

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But the diamond is definitely an earlier stone,

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and it's what we call sort of a circular-cut diamond.

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In its mount, I have approximated the weight of it,

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and it's approximately about 2.3 carats.

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And I love these cuts,

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these 1920s cuts,

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I just find really special.

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So...

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conservatively, I would say, at auction,

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you would be looking in the region

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of around £7,000-£9,000.

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SHE LAUGHS

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Oh.

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Hmm.

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Well, it was something my mum got from an antique shop.

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-Right.

-Quite a long time ago.

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My mum was always going to antique fairs and bringing things back.

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And she kept saying to me,

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"I've got this, and it's worth loads of money and you must keep it."

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And so my mum got ill and went into a care home.

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-Right.

-And there was lots of things that I took off to charity shops,

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and I hung on to this,

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because she kept telling me, you know, it's really nice...

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She obviously set a lot of store by it.

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-She did.

-Do you know what it was used for?

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Well, only because I watch the Antiques Roadshow!

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I have seen one on,

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and they said it was for paint brushes.

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-Yeah, it's a brush pot.

-A brush pot.

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It's actually bamboo. It's Chinese.

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You turn it over, you look at it - actually, I love that,

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it's got a little mark, a little signature on the bottom,

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I think that's probably a collector's mark.

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I love the patternation and colour on it,

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that's all really, really lovely.

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And it shows signs of use as well.

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Do you know, I think this is late 18th century, or early 19th century.

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I think it's a really old one.

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And, do you know, this is worth £2,000.

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-Wow. That's a shock for you.

-Your mum...

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-Your mum was absolutely right.

-She'd be so pleased.

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She was absolutely right, and it's absolutely gorgeous.

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She'd really be so pleased.

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So, congratulations, you've kept the right thing

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-and you've kept it for all the right reasons.

-That's lovely.

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I'm getting quite upset!

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Thank you ever so much. Thank you for bringing it along, it's lovely.

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-Thank you very much.

-Great.

-I can't believe it!

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Well, holding this box set of catalogues

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takes me right back to a 15-year-old boy in Derbyshire

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who absolutely got transfixed

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by this auction sale.

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I remember pleading with my mum and dad

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to buy me this set of catalogues,

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and in the end my mum buckled and said,

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-"You can have them, but they're an early Christmas present."

-Right.

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You've gone one step further -

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you've got something from the sale.

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So, tell me, how do you come to own this,

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that obviously originated out of this amazing auction?

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The sale actually took place in 1988,

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and it was bought from the G-Mex antiques fair,

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which was held in 1989.

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And my father bought it as a surprise,

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because my mother had seen it from a distance

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and she loved it straightaway,

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the image of Sarah Bernhardt,

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the famous Victorian actress,

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Lady of the Camellias, hence the flowers around her.

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Was the connection, for your dad, then, and your mum,

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was it about the Sarah Bernhardt and the actress,

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or was it the Elton John thing?

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No, it was more to do with the fact

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that my mother is involved

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in dancing and acting and producing shows

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and, funnily enough, she did a bit of acting class

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and a gentleman that she was working with there said,

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"You know who you are like?"

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And he said, "You're like Sarah Bernhardt."

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What it is, in context for yourself, it's a beautiful lithograph,

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you know, that circa 1900, that high Art Nouveau,

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that continental Art Nouveau movement of Sarah Bernhardt,

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who was, you know, this wonderful character,

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this star of the stage.

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You know, she was this enigma.

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It's amazing, because even from your side, then,

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there's that little touch of magic, isn't there?

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That little bit of theatre.

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And, really, we've got to be honest,

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-you don't get much more theatre than Elton John.

-No.

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I mean, this was a ground-breaking auction of its day.

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It captured the press,

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it captured the world's imagination.

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Because here was a man who was going through

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an absolutely unbelievable change of life.

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He actually said, you know,

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this sale for him was about cleansing.

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It was about drawing a line under his old life,

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drawing a line under his marriage with Renate

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and his relationships,

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and him basically coming out.

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And the point of it all was this sale.

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He saw it as a way of saying goodbye

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to the man that he'd pretended to be -

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this front, this theatre -

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and from this point on,

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it was going to be a new Elton John.

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And, actually, you know, the sale was broken down

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into all kinds of elements -

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his Art Deco collection, his theatrical costumes.

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And this print actually features here

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in what was called the Diverse Collections.

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And there it is, you know...

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Paul Berthon, lot 1177.

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With a presale estimate of £300-£400.

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I've got to ask a question -

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what did your parents pay for it?

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Well, they paid £1,300 for it.

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OK. If you were to sell it today,

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I think you're looking at an auction estimate of £2,000-£3,000.

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Right. Excellent. Excellent.

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Good news.

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Well, it's tantalising.

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Of course, I'm hoping...

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this is a highly important Imperial Chinese teapot.

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Maybe!

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Do you know when it was wrapped up?

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Well, the newspaper's all from 1980.

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Well, it came from my father,

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but he got it from a lady in Colwyn Bay

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who he used to do odd jobs for.

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-Yeah.

-But she wouldn't use it because, erm,

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she said it was cursed.

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-So here we go.

-Right. Exciting.

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-I think it starts here.

-Think it does.

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Will it come out? Look at that.

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Cursed in which particular way?

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Well, she was a bit of a cricket fanatic,

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and every now and again Lancashire would play a game at Colwyn Bay...

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..and she was watching the cricket,

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and the opposing team stuck at the wicket

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and they couldn't get them out.

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Oh, gosh.

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And the lady - if I may -

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took the stick and went, "Next ball, you will be out."

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And...

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bowled.

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No!

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Is it going to be a £2 million teapot?

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I doubt it very much, unfortunately.

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So that was the end of the stick - it was cursed.

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-My goodness!

-So...

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This would ensure that we got the Ashes every year. Brilliant!

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Shelley, Art Deco, 1920s.

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Chipped at the front, cracked at the back.

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I don't know...

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-£5 if you're lucky?

-Ooh!

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Good job I didn't go out and spend it!

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THEY LAUGH

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As a walking stick, it's worth £150, maybe £200.

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But as...

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the magic wand which will ensure

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-that Australia never win the Ashes again...

-Priceless!

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..it is priceless.

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So, one of these men was your grandfather.

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And Grandfather and his friends in the photograph

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were part of this territorial unit

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that went off to France, together,

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and they were part of the unit that actually created this sign

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-in the trenches just outside Ypres.

-Yes, that's correct.

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-And which one...?

-It's the gentleman seated in the centre.

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-And what was his name?

-He was named Levi Hall.

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He was a member of the Sappers and Engineers

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of the Sherwood Foresters that served at that time.

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-He was a Royal Engineer.

-Yes.

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And where did he come from?

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He came from New Mills, and joined, we think, in 1915,

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and served through the war then until 1918.

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Now, he wrote very detailed accounts of going into the trenches.

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And one of those trenches he was in was just outside Ypres,

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a very famous place known to the soldiers as Wipers.

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And the trench was named after where they came from.

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That's correct, yes.

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Tor Top is a part of New Mills,

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in the centre of New Mills,

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where we believe that most of the lads,

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or Pals, if you like, came from,

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and they joined the Sherwood Foresters.

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And we know that there were signposts in the trenches

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familiar to them.

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Piccadilly Circus.

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Hyde Park Corner.

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But one thing that we never see

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is one of the original signs from the trenches.

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-So you look after this sign at the Heritage Centre?

-Yes.

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It's New Mills Heritage Centre in Derbyshire,

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and it's one of our main items in the collection.

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Is New Mills Heritage Centre close to Tor Top?

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Yes. It's actually on Tor Top, virtually.

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And it's called Tor Top Tunnels.

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Yes.

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We forget that World War I

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is fought at land, on the sea,

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in the air, but also underground.

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Victoria Crosses are won underground

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during the First World War.

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Tunnelling underneath the German trenches,

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laying those mines that were then exploded underneath strongpoints

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to allow our infantry to attack.

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And this sign survived.

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It's so rare that you see a real trench sign.

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I think you need to insure it

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for somewhere between £400 and £600.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Thank you for bringing it in.

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-Thank you. It's a pleasure.

-Thank you.

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It feels like I've known these for 50 years, you know,

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because, when I was 12,

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I started going into antique shops

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and started buying my own stuff

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for the first time -

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my mum and dad had been doing it for a time. And I'm telling you

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that one of these, a smaller version of that

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is probably the very first thing I ever bought.

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So how long have you been into it?

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Well, I've been collecting them over the years, as I've seen them.

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I think that they display really nicely

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and they're fascinating,

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the way the people who make them manage to get

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all of these lovely sort of shapes and things inside them.

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-So, probably about 15-20 years.

-OK.

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Well, they're interesting

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in that they are a decorative product

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of the Yorkshire glassworks.

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South Yorkshire - Rotherham, Doncaster, Batley.

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Around there, they had coal and sand

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and the workforce was brought to their materials

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cos you were dealing in heavy materials.

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And according to repute, these were end-of-day,

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we call them friggers in this country, and these are...

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Once the glass-makers had got through the production

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that had been agreed and once that quota had been exhausted,

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you had done what was expected of you,

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then word was that you could empty the pot, you still had glass

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left in your furnace pot that you could make for your own stuff.

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They date from late 19th century, 1880, thereabouts.

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And one of the big makers of these was Kilner.

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Most famous for their jars, so typically they made the jars

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during the shift and then they made the end-of-day pieces later.

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What a variety.

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Now, I've never really worked out how they made the flowers in these.

0:20:500:20:54

I mean, really, how did they do that?

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I mean, that is an extraordinary creation.

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Some of it is just air in there, isn't it?

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It's like me, no visible means of support, really.

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-Extraordinary.

-Yeah.

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However, I have to tell you, that the money I was paying for them

0:21:110:21:14

50 years ago when I was 12 is about the money they go for today.

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-Probably.

-How much are you paying for them?

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I would say not more than £50.

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They're going for 50 quid.

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I think they're wonderful, and what a variety.

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And at 50 quid, bloomin' hellfire.

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-A little bit of history dating what? 1880?

-Yeah.

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-Lovely. I love them.

-I do too.

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-Good on you.

-Thank you very much indeed.

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You're most welcome.

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From its very earliest days of its conception to

0:21:400:21:43

the Great Train Robbery,

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the Post Office has always been under attack.

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And this is the 19th century solution to stopping that attack.

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A fantastic pair of flintlock pistols marked "Post Office."

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I wonder how you came by them?

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I bought them at auction a few years ago at Bristol.

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I do collect a lot of Post Office memorabilia,

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and of course, any Post Office collection has got to have

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-a flintlock pistol from the Royal Mail coaches.

-Absolutely.

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So, on the Royal Mail coach, you would have got these

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flintlock pistols and how many would the guard have?

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He'd have a pair of flintlocks and a blunderbuss.

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-So he was pretty heavily armed?

-Definitely.

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And it's well recorded that there was never any actual attacks

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on Royal Mail coaches.

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These are an absolutely fantastic pair of pistols.

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And you very rarely see Royal Mail pistols,

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which makes them so very interesting.

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If I could just look at this first one.

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I think it's very interesting because it has that down the side.

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And that was there so you could...

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stick it down the front of your trousers...

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with reasonable safety.

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So you would be able to walk around and do your job,

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pulling ropes and things and you would be armed and ready

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in case there were some dastardly French privateers

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who attempted to rob the Mail.

0:23:050:23:08

This pistol is made by Henry Nock of London who was one of the most

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celebrated gunsmiths of his day.

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And it's fantastically well made.

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The first one's about 1800.

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This one, about 1810, something like that.

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It was made by HW Mortimer, who was gunsmith in ordinary to

0:23:210:23:25

King George III, so he was a royal gunsmith.

0:23:250:23:28

So the Mail went to this fantastically important gunmaker

0:23:280:23:31

and said, "We would like some pistols, please."

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And I suspect they ordered quite a large number of them.

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Because if we look on the barrel, we can see the maker's name

0:23:370:23:42

and also it says, "Number 91," so they must have ordered more than 91.

0:23:420:23:46

They probably ordered 100.

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Now, I've said that these are fantastically rare pistols

0:23:480:23:51

and I've seen very few of them. What do you think they're worth?

0:23:510:23:56

I would suggest a couple of thousand each.

0:23:560:23:59

I think you could stick another thousand on them

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to about 3,000. They are very, very rare things.

0:24:030:24:07

They're very, very desirable

0:24:070:24:09

and they're a real part of England, sort of coaching and mail history,

0:24:090:24:12

and I think they're great.

0:24:120:24:14

Thank you very much for bringing them.

0:24:140:24:16

-I didn't realise they were worth that much. Thank you.

-Thank you.

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If ever there was a title that would attract the public,

0:24:210:24:25

it's a title with "Magic" in it, so this title here, "Mathematical

0:24:250:24:28

"Magick: Or The Wonders That May Be Performed By Mechanichal Geometry."

0:24:280:24:33

And it's by J Wilkins, John Wilkins, late Lord Bishop of Chester.

0:24:330:24:38

And it's printed in London in 1680.

0:24:380:24:41

Tell me about it. Where did you get it from?

0:24:410:24:44

It's my husband's book.

0:24:440:24:46

And it's been in his family all his life.

0:24:460:24:48

And he has no idea where it came from.

0:24:480:24:50

-Just it's always been...

-It's always been there, yes.

0:24:500:24:54

John Wilkins was a very interesting man and also, 1680,

0:24:540:24:58

this is a very interesting period for Great Britain.

0:24:580:25:01

We'd just chopped Charles I's head off in 1649.

0:25:010:25:05

Oliver Cromwell had been reigning in the interim

0:25:050:25:08

and then we had Charles II, the great monarch who came back again.

0:25:080:25:12

And it was a time of great thought, of great thinking, "Who are we?

0:25:120:25:16

"What are we?

0:25:160:25:17

"What are we doing?" And all this sort of period.

0:25:170:25:20

This is the 17th century.

0:25:200:25:22

Have you done any work on this?

0:25:220:25:24

I looked him up on the internet.

0:25:240:25:28

And I found out that they still print it now.

0:25:280:25:31

There are modern versions of it.

0:25:310:25:33

It is a great famous book.

0:25:330:25:35

We've got a picture here.

0:25:350:25:36

The modern Exocet I suppose it can be.

0:25:360:25:39

These arrows are fixed into this board here

0:25:390:25:43

and expelled by this ruler type of thing here.

0:25:430:25:48

This pings into the arrows and they go shooting off.

0:25:480:25:51

It's not a first edition of the book.

0:25:510:25:54

He was dead by this time, Wilkins.

0:25:540:25:56

This is a portrait of him

0:25:560:25:58

and he looks rather cavalier here with his wonderful lustrous locks.

0:25:580:26:03

But in 1680 he was dead, he died in 1672.

0:26:030:26:07

So this is not a first edition but a second edition of the book.

0:26:070:26:11

And it's bound, as you can see, this is a contemporary binding.

0:26:110:26:15

It's bound in sheep.

0:26:150:26:16

Now, sheep tends to be cheaper than calf,

0:26:160:26:18

as far as binding is concerned,

0:26:180:26:20

it's been gilt on the spine, there's a few gilt bands here.

0:26:200:26:24

So I would say, generally, for a book of this age,

0:26:240:26:28

-it is in good condition.

-Yes.

0:26:280:26:31

So, valuation. I think somewhere between £800 to £1,000.

0:26:310:26:37

Wow! Right. Thank you.

0:26:370:26:41

I don't suppose in your career you were a butler or maybe a steward?

0:26:440:26:49

I'm afraid not.

0:26:490:26:51

You see, I was jumping to all sorts of conclusions when I looked at

0:26:510:26:54

the bottom of this tray and I saw it said, "Cunard, Liverpool."

0:26:540:27:00

-My hometown.

-It's your hometown.

0:27:000:27:03

And I need to ask, how did you get hold of this,

0:27:030:27:07

because it looks as thought it might have been the property of Cunard?

0:27:070:27:13

-Yes, it came home for a visit and never went back.

-I see.

0:27:130:27:17

-It was on shore leave?

-Yes.

0:27:170:27:19

OK. Right.

0:27:190:27:21

Because I think this would have been

0:27:210:27:24

somewhere in a first class cabin

0:27:240:27:26

on one of those great cruise ships dating to the 1930s.

0:27:260:27:31

This is a very, very nice little tea service.

0:27:310:27:35

I love this thing because first of all, the tray is fantastic.

0:27:350:27:40

It's a rosewood tray.

0:27:400:27:41

Thick rosewood, which today is a listed material.

0:27:410:27:44

You can't get this stuff. It's very, very rare.

0:27:440:27:48

But the porcelain itself is exquisite.

0:27:480:27:50

Look at that creaminess of the porcelain.

0:27:500:27:53

It is brilliant, brilliant white.

0:27:530:27:56

Decorated with this very Chinese style grapevine design.

0:27:560:28:01

And underneath, we've got everything we need to know.

0:28:010:28:04

In fact, we can learn it's made by Tuscan China of...

0:28:040:28:09

Well, it says, "Liverpool," that's where it would have been retailed.

0:28:090:28:12

I particularly like the teapot

0:28:120:28:15

because there is a spectacular small perfectly formed cube teapot.

0:28:150:28:21

These were designed for the tearooms of England to be stacked,

0:28:210:28:24

so that in the tearooms you could simply put them one on top of the other.

0:28:240:28:27

But here, these were made for the cabin.

0:28:270:28:31

I think it's absolutely lovely.

0:28:310:28:34

-Do you ever use it?

-It dribbles quite badly.

0:28:340:28:38

It would do because one of the problems creating a cube teapot

0:28:380:28:42

is where do you put the spout?

0:28:420:28:44

And you can see the spout is really not going to do much

0:28:440:28:49

but dribble off the edge there.

0:28:490:28:51

Lovely thing.

0:28:510:28:52

You looked a bit nervous

0:28:520:28:53

when I asked you how it had come into your hands?

0:28:530:28:56

Yes, it was probably listed as AWOL.

0:28:560:29:00

But I think I can give you some solace.

0:29:000:29:03

If this has been worrying you, let's have a look at that mark again.

0:29:030:29:06

Because not only do we have the maker,

0:29:060:29:09

and nice little mark there, but we have the word "Souvenir."

0:29:090:29:14

Oh! Right.

0:29:140:29:17

I think when they commissioned these, they expected them

0:29:170:29:21

to leave the cabins.

0:29:210:29:23

I think we should take it in that spirit.

0:29:230:29:25

What's it actually worth?

0:29:250:29:27

I'm going to put somewhere in the region of £400 to £700 on it.

0:29:270:29:31

Oh, thanks, Mum.

0:29:310:29:33

Thank you.

0:29:340:29:36

Well, we have the perfect sunny day to be using your sundial.

0:29:370:29:42

What do you know about it?

0:29:420:29:44

I inherited it this year from my parents.

0:29:440:29:48

It was my father's and it was my father's father's,

0:29:480:29:51

so my grandfather.

0:29:510:29:53

And my father loved it, treasured it,

0:29:530:29:55

played with it a little bit, so I had an idea what it was,

0:29:550:30:00

but I wasn't really allowed to touch it until this year.

0:30:000:30:03

-So what we've got here is a little pocket compass and sundial.

-Right.

0:30:030:30:09

So if we flip up the centre, like that.

0:30:090:30:13

And if we point it between the north

0:30:130:30:16

and the south poles we can tell what time of day it is.

0:30:160:30:20

So that's why we've got the compass on there.

0:30:200:30:23

So if I point it in the right direction,

0:30:230:30:24

by my reckoning, it's about ten past three.

0:30:240:30:27

Great. Perfect.

0:30:270:30:30

It's signed here.

0:30:320:30:34

And it's made by a maker, it's signed Watkins of London.

0:30:340:30:37

And that's a gentleman by the name of Francis Watkins and he set up

0:30:370:30:40

business making these types of instruments in 1747 in London.

0:30:400:30:46

What's interesting about this one is that this case is made from

0:30:460:30:49

what we could call vernis Martin, which is a type of imitation lacquer

0:30:490:30:54

copying that sort of Chinese lacquers.

0:30:540:30:57

And I think that would have adorned any gentlemen's table at home

0:30:570:31:00

and I think it's a great object.

0:31:000:31:02

Sundials have been around for a very, very, long time.

0:31:020:31:06

What I really love about this one is the age and I think date-wise,

0:31:060:31:10

it's probably going to be something around

0:31:100:31:13

latter part of the 18th century.

0:31:130:31:15

So I reckon about 1790, something like that in date.

0:31:150:31:18

Maybe through to about 1800. So sort of 1790, 1800.

0:31:200:31:23

What I'm coming onto,

0:31:230:31:24

what I really like is actually the condition is really very good.

0:31:240:31:27

I think anybody who collects this type of thing would die to

0:31:270:31:31

get this today and I think if it came up at an auction,

0:31:310:31:35

it would carry a pre-sale estimate,

0:31:350:31:37

I'm going to say, between £800 and £1,200.

0:31:370:31:40

Gracious.

0:31:400:31:42

This is a story of how one of the richest football clubs in

0:31:450:31:48

the world was saved by a St Bernard.

0:31:480:31:51

-This St Bernard.

-Exactly, yes.

0:31:510:31:53

These are some items from the archives of one Elsie Davies,

0:31:530:31:58

whose father was John Henry Davies.

0:31:580:32:00

John Henry Davies was a famous brewer.

0:32:000:32:02

He owned the Manchester Brewery Company in Manchester,

0:32:020:32:06

and he got involved with a team called Newton Heath.

0:32:060:32:09

And the way that happened was

0:32:090:32:11

Newton Heath were in desperate straits, financially.

0:32:110:32:14

And this was when? What, the early 1900, turn of the century?

0:32:140:32:18

He got involved in 1902, we're talking.

0:32:180:32:21

So to raise money the captain of the side,

0:32:210:32:24

Harry Stafford, he got a St Bernard dog.

0:32:240:32:28

And he took it to the fundraiser event in Manchester with a box

0:32:280:32:32

strapped to it's back for people to put money in.

0:32:320:32:36

What happened on the day, the dog got lost,

0:32:360:32:39

but it was rescued by one of the licensees in one of his pubs.

0:32:390:32:45

Took it back to John Henry Davies, said,

0:32:450:32:46

"Can you find the owner of this dog?"

0:32:460:32:49

He says, "OK."

0:32:490:32:50

They found the owner who happened to be the captain of Newton Heath.

0:32:500:32:54

The story comes out then that they need financial help and he says,

0:32:540:32:58

"You give me the dog for my daughter and I'll help you save the club."

0:32:580:33:02

And they did. Him and four other gentlemen, they raised £500 each.

0:33:020:33:07

They paid off their debts. They improved the ground facilities.

0:33:070:33:11

Now, not everyone will know, but die-hard fans of this club

0:33:110:33:15

certainly will, that Newton Heath then became...

0:33:150:33:17

Manchester United.

0:33:170:33:19

And do you know why Newton Heath chose to change their name?

0:33:190:33:21

I don't really know the real sort of understanding from it,

0:33:210:33:25

but Newton Heath, basically, they were made up of railway workers.

0:33:250:33:29

That was the formation of the team.

0:33:290:33:32

But even then, they were attracting crowds of 20 and 30,000

0:33:320:33:35

to the Bank Street Stadium in Clayton.

0:33:350:33:38

But actually where the United came from, I think

0:33:380:33:41

the fact it was Manchester, a Manchester team,

0:33:410:33:44

he owned the Manchester Brewery, perhaps that was the...

0:33:440:33:47

It was a team for all Manchester.

0:33:470:33:49

He wanted it and then obviously it was united.

0:33:490:33:51

It was very nearly the team that never was

0:33:510:33:54

-if it wasn't for this St Bernard.

-If it wasn't for that St Bernard,

0:33:540:33:57

who knows what would have happened to Newton Heath.

0:33:570:34:00

Well, I think it's fair to say that this girl cannot be

0:34:040:34:07

-described as a local Cheshire lass.

-Quite right.

0:34:070:34:11

Well, this is a real case of little and large.

0:34:110:34:14

An extraordinary size of jug.

0:34:140:34:17

-Did you inherit it?

-Yes. From my father.

0:34:170:34:20

He went to Manchester and came home with her.

0:34:200:34:22

We think it was from an auction.

0:34:220:34:24

And my mother was very impressed at his good choice.

0:34:240:34:27

-Really?

-Yes.

0:34:270:34:29

Well, what an understanding wife.

0:34:290:34:32

She wanted a hot water jug to go with her teapot.

0:34:320:34:35

To go with the set.

0:34:350:34:36

Imagine her surprise when she opened up the parcel.

0:34:360:34:39

She was not very happy.

0:34:390:34:41

I'll bet. But in some ways, it's remarkable.

0:34:410:34:43

I've never seen a jug that size in silver.

0:34:430:34:46

If I dare boldly go and show this lady's sort of, um, garment.

0:34:470:34:53

I'm not quite sure what you would...

0:34:530:34:55

What would you describe? You're a woman.

0:34:550:34:57

-You know what these are called.

-Well, not quite knickers, are they?

0:34:570:35:00

Not quite, no. They're a bit more exotic than that.

0:35:000:35:03

So as far as the value goes,

0:35:030:35:04

it's not worth a lot more than the actual silver weight.

0:35:040:35:07

-Yeah.

-You're looking at maybe £1,000, up to £1,500.

0:35:070:35:11

-I didn't expect much more, actually.

-So it's going to go back in the box

0:35:110:35:14

and then you're going to bring it to the next Roadshow

0:35:140:35:17

in five years' time and hope the price of silver's gone up.

0:35:170:35:20

-This has got a maker on the back.

-Yes.

-OK.

0:35:200:35:23

-And the maker's name is there. Galli.

-Yes.

0:35:230:35:28

Your odalisque, to give a respectable title,

0:35:280:35:31

is worth in the region of about £500.

0:35:310:35:35

Well, you'll see that the box is labelled in gilt letters.

0:35:350:35:38

Liberty and Co. Now there's a name to conjure with.

0:35:380:35:41

My mother-in-law dabbled in antiques.

0:35:410:35:45

And she bought for our wedding present a honeymoon in Paris.

0:35:450:35:49

Oh, wonderful, yes.

0:35:490:35:51

And the beautiful teaspoons.

0:35:510:35:53

And I would be very surprised

0:35:530:35:56

if they achieved a figure of less than certainly £300 or £400.

0:35:560:36:01

Wonderful. Thank you very much.

0:36:010:36:03

Well, two rather nice objects, if I might say so.

0:36:060:36:10

Thank you.

0:36:100:36:11

A lovely big watch in the hand.

0:36:110:36:13

Am I to assume that it belonged to one of these two chaps over here?

0:36:130:36:17

Yes. That's my great grandfather Thomas Dickson Hunter

0:36:170:36:20

who was a grocer, an agricultural merchant.

0:36:200:36:23

I'm assuming it belonged to him.

0:36:230:36:26

You can see the chain there, so I assume he's got it in his pocket.

0:36:260:36:29

OK. And how did you get them?

0:36:290:36:31

Just came down through the family, really.

0:36:310:36:33

Through various wills and ended up in my bottom drawer.

0:36:330:36:36

-So really in your bottom drawer?

-It is.

0:36:360:36:38

-You don't know anything about these things at all?

-No.

0:36:380:36:40

OK. Well, let's start with this.

0:36:400:36:42

It's a big, big watch in the hand, a heavy watch.

0:36:420:36:45

And it's dating from the English Regency period, so about 1820.

0:36:450:36:49

But it's got a lovely machine-turned dial,

0:36:490:36:52

lovely heavy raised gold numerals.

0:36:520:36:55

Jolly good object.

0:36:550:36:56

And a beautiful engine-turned case at the back.

0:36:560:37:00

Now, it happens to have this rather long pendant.

0:37:000:37:03

-Do you know what that does?

-Sorry, no idea.

0:37:030:37:06

So if I pushed it like this...

0:37:060:37:09

FAINT ALARM SOUNDS

0:37:090:37:12

-You haven't heard that before?

-No.

0:37:120:37:14

OK. That is what we call quarter repeating.

0:37:140:37:18

OK.

0:37:180:37:19

So now it's just sort of after quarter to one, so it did

0:37:190:37:22

the 12 and then it done the ding, dong, ding, dong for each quarters.

0:37:220:37:26

But very rapidly because it obviously needs adjustment.

0:37:260:37:29

There we are.

0:37:290:37:31

So it's by a chap called Samuel Quilliam.

0:37:310:37:34

-Right.

-I don't know much about him.

0:37:340:37:38

But I do know that he is a Regency watchmaker and case maker.

0:37:380:37:43

The important thing is the escapement.

0:37:430:37:46

So, looking at this balance we have two big heavy brass

0:37:460:37:50

compensation weights

0:37:500:37:52

and down there, we have a lovely blued steel helical balance spring.

0:37:520:37:58

And this is the clue that it is a pocket chronometer.

0:37:580:38:02

The pocket chronometer is absolutely top of the range.

0:38:020:38:05

-OK.

-It's a spring detent escapement.

0:38:050:38:08

So we have a quarter repeating pocket chronometer.

0:38:080:38:11

All I can tell you is that the grocer shop

0:38:110:38:13

must have been doing very well.

0:38:130:38:15

This would have been...

0:38:150:38:17

probably ten years' salary for the average working man when it was new.

0:38:170:38:21

-Gosh.

-So, he left you that and he left you this clock.

0:38:210:38:27

He did. It just reminds me of being at my grandparents'.

0:38:270:38:30

It sat in the hall and it was very familiar.

0:38:300:38:32

And he always used to say to me, "Oh, this is a very early clock.

0:38:320:38:35

"It's a very good clock."

0:38:350:38:37

And that's, apart from looking up the name, and where it's from,

0:38:370:38:39

I don't know anything more about it, really. I was intrigued.

0:38:390:38:42

Well, Thomas Bruton and that's Bow, obviously, in London.

0:38:420:38:45

The joy of this clock is that I have had the chance to look inside

0:38:450:38:49

and it is the original verge escapement.

0:38:490:38:52

But it's basically a really lovely early English dial clock.

0:38:520:38:55

That's what he always used to tell me.

0:38:550:38:57

Dating from just a little bit earlier than the watch.

0:38:570:38:59

Approximately about 1810, something like that.

0:38:590:39:02

So, both very similar periods.

0:39:020:39:05

Which do you prefer?

0:39:050:39:07

Probably this because it's just so familiar with hanging in the hall

0:39:070:39:10

and running down the hallways as a little girl, hearing the tick tock.

0:39:100:39:14

That's quite manly, I think.

0:39:140:39:16

OK, well, you've chosen that one.

0:39:160:39:19

-I'm going to choose this one.

-OK.

0:39:190:39:22

Price at auction on this is going to be in the region of £2,000.

0:39:220:39:26

Very good.

0:39:260:39:28

And quarter repeating pocket chronometer in 18-carat

0:39:280:39:32

gold by a London maker...

0:39:320:39:34

..£5,000 to £6,000.

0:39:360:39:38

-Gosh.

-Lovely thing.

-Thank you.

0:39:380:39:41

I understand these have been in the attic for how many years?

0:39:430:39:46

-40 years.

-Why is that?

0:39:460:39:48

Well, when my grandmother died she loved these things,

0:39:480:39:51

they'd always been on her sideboard.

0:39:510:39:53

And nobody in the family wanted them.

0:39:530:39:55

And I just couldn't send them to the tip.

0:39:550:39:58

It would have broke my heart.

0:39:580:40:00

So I took them home, but I had nowhere to put them.

0:40:000:40:02

-Where would you put three firemen like this?

-Well, exactly.

0:40:020:40:06

And I think this is really why many other people would have

0:40:060:40:08

put them in the attack as well.

0:40:080:40:11

When these were produced in the 1870s, 1880s,

0:40:110:40:14

large dining rooms and large areas with large pieces of furniture

0:40:140:40:17

took these pieces really very well.

0:40:170:40:20

And now suddenly we're all living in smaller accommodation

0:40:200:40:22

and consequently there's nowhere to put these outsized pieces.

0:40:220:40:26

But do you know anything about them at all?

0:40:260:40:28

Supposedly my grandfather brought them

0:40:280:40:30

back from the First World War when he was serving in France.

0:40:300:40:33

Other than that, I don't know anything.

0:40:330:40:34

Well, that was quite a brave thing to do.

0:40:340:40:36

Most soldiers brought back a small dish.

0:40:360:40:38

And here he struggled back with three enormous spelter figures.

0:40:380:40:42

-Well, he was a bit of a character.

-He must have been.

0:40:420:40:44

These initially would have had a simulated bronze finish.

0:40:440:40:47

They would have looked much grander than they do now.

0:40:470:40:50

But they've rather pickled back and we're down to the basic alloy

0:40:500:40:53

of which they were made.

0:40:530:40:55

But I love the dramatic effect that we've got here.

0:40:550:40:57

Here we've got this one fireman saving this young child.

0:40:570:41:01

But there he is. If you look at it, he's balancing right on the ridge

0:41:010:41:04

tiles of a cottage or a house.

0:41:040:41:07

In the centre, we've got the main firemen there with his

0:41:070:41:10

two medals, saving a colleague.

0:41:100:41:12

Again, they're standing on the prow of a cottage there with

0:41:120:41:14

flames piling through the slates.

0:41:140:41:16

And on the far side, we've got another fireman rushing up

0:41:160:41:19

the steps there with a hose which actually looks rather too small

0:41:190:41:22

to do the job, I have to say. So what's your plan with them now?

0:41:220:41:25

Well, I'm moving to an even smaller house

0:41:250:41:27

so I'm afraid they have got to go.

0:41:270:41:30

I was hoping that if they were taken from a fire station

0:41:300:41:33

or something in France, they could go back there.

0:41:330:41:36

I think they will end up in a collection of that type.

0:41:360:41:39

Somebody who collects fire memorabilia, fire engines,

0:41:390:41:42

fire effects, really.

0:41:420:41:44

So what were they likely to make?

0:41:440:41:45

You should get 300-350 for the set.

0:41:450:41:49

Yes, I'm not bothered about the money.

0:41:490:41:51

I would just like them to be preserved.

0:41:510:41:53

I just don't want them to be destroyed.

0:41:530:41:54

I think they've been with us long enough to have survived.

0:41:540:41:57

OK. Thank you very much indeed.

0:41:570:41:59

Well, I don't think this is the Good Ship Lollipop.

0:42:010:42:04

Because I've got the suspicion she was called The Three Sisters.

0:42:040:42:07

That's correct.

0:42:070:42:09

The initials on the back of the glass belong to

0:42:090:42:13

the master of that ship.

0:42:130:42:16

His wife had two other sisters who married brothers of

0:42:160:42:21

my great great grandfather.

0:42:210:42:23

His sister married my great great grandfather.

0:42:230:42:26

-Very complicated arrangement.

-Yes.

0:42:260:42:29

But to assume that he called the ship after his wife

0:42:290:42:33

and her two sisters and it was sailing out of Scarborough

0:42:330:42:38

in the 1790s, supplying Wellington in the Peninsular War.

0:42:380:42:43

-That right? What's his name?

-Richard Crosswood.

0:42:430:42:46

I don't know what the "N" stands for.

0:42:460:42:48

OK. His middle name.

0:42:480:42:49

What is she?

0:42:490:42:52

She's a cargo vessel, is she?

0:42:520:42:54

Yes, it was a vessel called a snow, which apparently is a type of brig.

0:42:540:42:59

-OK.

-About 300 tonnes or thereabouts.

0:42:590:43:01

Isn't that magical that you can trace lineage?

0:43:010:43:05

This bond that we enjoy between ourselves and stuff.

0:43:050:43:09

And, Guy, your story, it's just... Really, it's in a nutshell.

0:43:090:43:13

It's a beautifully executed glass. The engraving is a high quality.

0:43:130:43:17

It has a lemon squeezer base.

0:43:170:43:19

It's inconceivable for us to imagine what it's like,

0:43:190:43:23

life without electric light.

0:43:230:43:25

And so the table was bedecked and the room was bedecked with candles.

0:43:250:43:29

Hundreds of candles to generate enough light.

0:43:290:43:31

And the purpose of the lemon squeezer,

0:43:310:43:33

it's formed on exactly the same principle as the common lemon

0:43:330:43:37

squeezer they use for squeezing lemons, believe it or not.

0:43:370:43:41

And the idea is that you have a series of arcades within

0:43:410:43:46

the foot, all of which are designed to capture light,

0:43:460:43:51

take it in and fire it out again,

0:43:510:43:53

to sparkle in candlelight.

0:43:530:43:56

It's a lovely glass, beautifully executed,

0:43:560:43:58

and it's direct lineage to you, which is the best element about it.

0:43:580:44:02

-Do you ever use it?

-I haven't done, no.

0:44:020:44:05

-Well, I think you should break...

-Not quite big enough.

0:44:050:44:08

Not quite big enough. A man after my own heart!

0:44:080:44:11

It is bit titchy, I must admit.

0:44:110:44:13

Anyway, look, you've got three of them, as it happens,

0:44:130:44:16

which is just triple bonus.

0:44:160:44:19

And their value, I suppose retail would be about £250 each,

0:44:190:44:22

which is worth your while putting a little wine in them

0:44:220:44:26

tonight and cheering your good fortune.

0:44:260:44:29

-Will do.

-Cheers.

-Thank you.

0:44:290:44:32

Well, an amazing comical crow.

0:44:360:44:38

And the thing that will surprise a lot of people is who made it.

0:44:380:44:41

And it's not until I do this that all becomes clear.

0:44:410:44:46

It's the one and only Ms Clarice Cliff, who for me,

0:44:460:44:48

as many people know, I think

0:44:480:44:51

is one of the greatest ceramic designers of the 20th century.

0:44:510:44:54

But what on earth is she doing producing a crow like this?

0:44:540:44:59

And also...

0:44:590:45:00

where did it come from? How on earth did you come to own it?

0:45:000:45:03

Well, it was my sister-in-law who bought it from a flee market

0:45:030:45:08

in Stockport about 40 years ago for her mother.

0:45:080:45:13

And that's the history I know

0:45:130:45:16

and it's always been in the family from then on.

0:45:160:45:19

And did you always know it was your Clarice Cliff crow?

0:45:190:45:21

Later on. Not at first.

0:45:210:45:24

Yes, later on when Clarice Cliff became a bit more popular.

0:45:240:45:29

But mostly with her china and her cups and saucers and plates.

0:45:290:45:34

Well, I have to tell you something.

0:45:340:45:36

I've been doing Clarice Cliff now for 30 years. I've never seen one.

0:45:360:45:40

-No.

-It's the first time I've ever managed to

0:45:400:45:44

get my hands on one of these.

0:45:440:45:45

I'd heard about them, I'd seen a little photograph in a book,

0:45:450:45:49

but I've never ever got one.

0:45:490:45:51

And in terms of the date,

0:45:510:45:53

it's in a very specific period of between 1937 and 1952.

0:45:530:45:58

And actually that's about when the market was changing.

0:45:580:46:01

Clarice realised that all the bold and the jazzy stuff wasn't quite

0:46:010:46:05

so popular and she reverts back to doing what

0:46:050:46:07

she loves the most, which is modelling.

0:46:070:46:09

I think it's so good to see because I think it's actually shows that

0:46:090:46:13

there was more to her than just crocus flowers

0:46:130:46:15

and bold jazzy paintings and all these abstract patterns.

0:46:150:46:18

He's comic, he's fun.

0:46:180:46:20

He's not necessarily everything that a typical Clarice Cliff

0:46:200:46:24

collector would want.

0:46:240:46:27

I know that there are collectors out there who'd love these.

0:46:270:46:29

And do you know what?

0:46:290:46:31

Get one of those, they'll give you £200-£300 for him.

0:46:310:46:34

Gosh. Well, that's amazing.

0:46:340:46:37

The Freemason Fraternity is one of the world's largest

0:46:400:46:44

non-religious, non-political institutions.

0:46:440:46:47

So you brought along items that all have emblems relating to

0:46:470:46:52

the Freemasons, so I can assume that not only are you a collector

0:46:520:46:56

of all things Freemasonry, but you are a Mason yourself?

0:46:560:47:00

I am. Signed up. Affiliated. Yes. I have been for many years.

0:47:000:47:03

So there was a lot of material manufactured over the years.

0:47:030:47:06

And this is a mantel clock, but not an English one.

0:47:060:47:10

-This one's French, is it?

-Yes.

0:47:100:47:12

They do them in French enamel.

0:47:120:47:14

That particular clock dates to circa 1920s.

0:47:140:47:18

Lots of triangular things around the time of Tutankhamen et cetera,

0:47:180:47:23

and Masons went into the symbolism.

0:47:230:47:26

-And you get the all-seeing eye.

-Yeah.

0:47:260:47:29

And obviously other tools that would have been used by Masons,

0:47:290:47:32

-so the compass, the rule.

-Yeah.

0:47:320:47:35

And the scales, what do they represent?

0:47:350:47:39

That's the level, basically.

0:47:390:47:41

-It means people meet on the level, et cetera.

-Ah!

0:47:410:47:45

Yeah, so you go that way.

0:47:450:47:48

Tell me about the fraternity itself.

0:47:480:47:50

Well, Freemasonry has been going back to the times,

0:47:500:47:53

I would say, of King Solomon and his temple.

0:47:530:47:58

So you're going back several thousand years, basically.

0:47:580:48:02

And it was all to do with stonemasons.

0:48:020:48:04

As they went through apprenticeships,

0:48:040:48:06

they would need to be recognised as being quality stonemasons.

0:48:060:48:10

So they would pick up signs, tokens, handshakes, et cetera,

0:48:100:48:14

to identify them when they're moving from job to job.

0:48:140:48:17

And that was basically your CV.

0:48:170:48:19

Over the years, it's now progressed.

0:48:190:48:21

Freemasonry has changed

0:48:210:48:23

and it's now become more of a charitable organisation.

0:48:230:48:25

Now, obviously, your prize possessions is this amazing

0:48:250:48:30

chain of a whole range of pens.

0:48:300:48:34

There's what looks like a football, but they all open up.

0:48:340:48:40

They do. They open up mostly into the signs of crosses or stars.

0:48:400:48:46

The symbols on the inside of them tell a story

0:48:460:48:50

and as you go through the different degrees in Freemasonry

0:48:500:48:54

you would open up the cross, read them,

0:48:540:48:56

normally you would read them from bottom to top

0:48:560:48:59

and then down the cross.

0:48:590:49:01

-And it will give you things to moralise on.

-OK.

0:49:010:49:04

-Sort of like an aide-memoire?

-It is, yeah.

0:49:040:49:07

And you got a miniature book.

0:49:070:49:09

That is the Volume of the Sacred Law.

0:49:090:49:13

Basically, it's the Bible.

0:49:130:49:15

But that particular one comes from Glasgow.

0:49:150:49:19

It was made in Glasgow round about 1920s.

0:49:190:49:24

It's unusual that it has the gold binding

0:49:240:49:27

-and the gold pages on the inside.

-Fantastic.

0:49:270:49:31

And how long have you been collecting?

0:49:310:49:34

Probably round about four or five years now.

0:49:340:49:38

You've achieved a remarkable...

0:49:380:49:40

-Thank you.

-..collection in such a short time.

0:49:400:49:43

-You must be very enthusiastic?

-Yes.

0:49:430:49:47

That's great because collecting's all about passion.

0:49:470:49:49

And you're obviously a passionate collector

0:49:490:49:52

and you've put together a wonderful collection.

0:49:520:49:54

-And it's worth money.

-Thank you.

0:49:540:49:57

The watch does turn up quite regularly at auction, but also

0:49:570:50:00

with the chain attached, I mean, I think that is a quite rare thing.

0:50:000:50:04

I would assume at auction we would put a value of between

0:50:040:50:07

-£1,500 and £2,000 on that.

-Thank you.

0:50:070:50:11

This is rarer. I've never seen one before.

0:50:110:50:14

So, by itself, I would think between £2,000 and £3,000.

0:50:140:50:19

OK.

0:50:190:50:21

But this is a difficult one.

0:50:210:50:23

There are things there I've never seen.

0:50:230:50:26

You must be talking about a figure between, I would think,

0:50:260:50:29

£8,000 and £12,000.

0:50:290:50:31

They are gold, they are silver, they're incredibly rare.

0:50:310:50:34

Fantastic collection and thank you so much for bringing them along.

0:50:340:50:37

You're welcome.

0:50:370:50:38

Firstly, what a beautiful colour.

0:50:390:50:42

Jade green. Oriental jade green.

0:50:420:50:45

It looks beautiful against this backdrop. It looks great.

0:50:450:50:48

So this was a very early woofer or tweeter.

0:50:480:50:52

And it's made to amplify the sound out...

0:50:520:50:56

-I see.

-..in your posh cruise cabin.

0:50:560:51:00

It would sit on a sideboard and it could cover a speaker.

0:51:000:51:05

So it would hide it, it would make this cabin more functional,

0:51:050:51:10

spacious and you can imagine the first time it went off.

0:51:100:51:13

"This is the captain speaking."

0:51:130:51:16

SHE LAUGHS

0:51:160:51:17

Fright of your life. "This Buddha is talking to me!"

0:51:170:51:20

So it's also functional and beautiful

0:51:200:51:22

and goes with the height of luxury travel in the '20s and '30s.

0:51:220:51:27

Tell me, what do you know about it?

0:51:270:51:29

Well, it belonged to my great uncle.

0:51:290:51:33

He was fond of anything that was a bit different.

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He died and left it to his sister, my grandmother.

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Who then of course died and then left it to my mother.

0:51:400:51:44

And I've got it now.

0:51:440:51:45

And I love the colour, but I don't know a lot about it.

0:51:450:51:48

It almost looks like a contemporary colour.

0:51:480:51:50

It will go in with any room set in today.

0:51:500:51:52

Even though it's made in the 1925, '35 period,

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and made by the Doulton factory

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around the Staffordshire potteries area

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for Artandial and Co.

0:52:020:52:05

And Artandial supplied the cruise liners of their day,

0:52:050:52:10

some of the biggest cruise liners.

0:52:100:52:12

This is the time when people carried Louis Vuitton cases with them

0:52:120:52:15

and went across the world, oceanic transport.

0:52:150:52:19

So it's a generic oriental style.

0:52:190:52:22

It's neither a Buddha, a sage or an immortal.

0:52:220:52:24

And it's got this beautiful fretwork, the style underneath it.

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Lets the light just fall underneath it.

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So where do you have it in your house?

0:52:320:52:34

It's in the window, funnily enough.

0:52:340:52:36

I just like. It goes in the room and I just like it.

0:52:360:52:40

I would love this in my room. I think it's beautiful.

0:52:400:52:43

There's not a lot of them around or made.

0:52:430:52:47

I have seen cockatoos making £200, £300-£400.

0:52:470:52:52

But I will put this in the region of £500-£600.

0:52:520:52:57

Oh. Wonderful.

0:52:570:52:59

And I think it's an achievement, that. It really is.

0:52:590:53:01

So take it back home, put in the window and enjoy it.

0:53:010:53:04

-I will.

-Thanks for bringing it along. Thank you.

0:53:040:53:06

Thank you very much.

0:53:060:53:08

I always get a thrill from historical portraits.

0:53:100:53:13

And of course we're looking at a face of speed and locomotion.

0:53:130:53:17

-This is George Stephenson.

-It is.

0:53:170:53:20

-The great locomotion architect.

-That's right.

0:53:200:53:23

-Designer...

-Engineer.

0:53:230:53:25

And engineer. Am I right in thinking this has been in a factory?

0:53:250:53:29

Yes.

0:53:290:53:30

The company that his son set up, Robert Stephenson,

0:53:300:53:34

was based in Newton-le-Willows by the railway

0:53:340:53:37

and we inherited that company.

0:53:370:53:39

I see. And so where was it actually hanging?

0:53:390:53:41

In the boardroom.

0:53:410:53:43

It's been in the boardroom for as long as anyone knows, really.

0:53:430:53:46

And it still is. It's still in ours now.

0:53:460:53:48

So the face of someone who has inspired the business,

0:53:480:53:51

the factory, and of course the history of locomotion

0:53:510:53:54

-has been looking down upon you...

-In the boardroom, yeah.

0:53:540:53:57

-..as they're working and making decisions.

-Yeah, that's right.

0:53:570:54:00

We like to think of him as the grandfather of the company.

0:54:000:54:04

So you're looking at a portrait which is, in some ways,

0:54:040:54:07

a typical Victorian worthy, although it's very, very early Victorian,

0:54:070:54:12

if it is Victorian.

0:54:120:54:14

It's painted... Actually, why should it not be painted in 1845,

0:54:140:54:18

the date that is says here?

0:54:180:54:20

And every portrait that is of a historical person tries,

0:54:220:54:26

if they're famous during their day,

0:54:260:54:28

to say something about the achievements of that person,

0:54:280:54:31

that man or woman.

0:54:310:54:33

And here, it's all in the left-hand corner.

0:54:330:54:35

There you have a pair of dividers.

0:54:350:54:38

That is rather wonderful, in a way,

0:54:380:54:39

because the picture leaves you in no doubt as to his qualifications.

0:54:390:54:43

-Sure.

-He was a very interesting man.

0:54:430:54:45

I mean, his parents were illiterate. He was self-taught, wasn't he?

0:54:450:54:49

Yeah. And he also invented one of the miner safety lamps.

0:54:490:54:53

Like the Davy lamp, but his version of it.

0:54:530:54:55

Well, what is this painting, in terms of our history?

0:54:550:55:00

You can see down there it says Henry Pickersgill.

0:55:020:55:06

Henry Pickersgill, early 19th century,

0:55:060:55:08

an artist of celebrities and leading figures.

0:55:080:55:11

But there's a problem

0:55:110:55:13

because there's a portrait by Henry Pickersgill.

0:55:130:55:15

Have you seen it in the National Portrait Gallery?

0:55:150:55:17

I've seen it online in their collection, yeah.

0:55:170:55:20

-Exactly the same picture.

-So you have exactly the same picture?

-Yeah.

0:55:200:55:24

Is it a fake?

0:55:240:55:25

Is it a copy?

0:55:250:55:27

-Did he do copies? I don't know.

-Artists sometimes did versions.

0:55:270:55:30

They replicated their own works.

0:55:300:55:32

-OK.

-They did variants.

0:55:320:55:35

And if you look into this picture and areas of this picture,

0:55:350:55:38

the quality begins to shine forth.

0:55:380:55:41

I mean, look at the arm of that chair.

0:55:410:55:43

Look at the way the creases are done in the material, the fabric.

0:55:430:55:47

Is it leather? I'm not sure.

0:55:470:55:49

But this is an artist who knows his way around a still life object.

0:55:490:55:52

-Yeah.

-And then there's something else which is rather reassuring.

0:55:520:55:55

-A signature on the bottom there. Have you seen that?

-Yeah.

0:55:550:55:58

That looks to me like the cipher of Henry Pickersgill.

0:55:580:56:02

-So you've had it cleaned recently?

-Yes, we had it cleaned last year.

0:56:020:56:06

And it's been in boardrooms all its life,

0:56:060:56:08

so it's had nicotine all over it, no doubt.

0:56:080:56:11

So now we come to the gritty subject of its valuation.

0:56:110:56:14

Well, as a copy, as a contemporary copy, it would be worth £1,500.

0:56:140:56:19

And on reflection, having looked at all

0:56:190:56:21

the elements in the painting,

0:56:210:56:23

having looked at the quality of some of the areas,

0:56:230:56:26

having read through the condition and working out how it might look

0:56:260:56:29

if it were better restored,

0:56:290:56:31

on balance, I think it is by Henry Pickersgill.

0:56:310:56:35

-And, therefore, it's not a copy.

-OK.

0:56:350:56:38

Probably worth about £25,000.

0:56:380:56:40

Gosh. Really? More than we thought.

0:56:400:56:43

Well, thanks, Philip. That's great.

0:56:440:56:47

Do you remember how at the beginning of the programme

0:56:490:56:52

I mentioned that Mr Darcy moment when Colin Firth emerged from this

0:56:520:56:55

lake, dripping and glorious in the TV adaption of Pride and Prejudice?

0:56:550:57:00

Well, sadly, Colin Firth hasn't turned up today.

0:57:000:57:03

But our arms in military expert Robert Tilney is threatening to

0:57:030:57:06

re-enact the scene for us.

0:57:060:57:08

And we're all rather hoping he doesn't.

0:57:080:57:11

From the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye.

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