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When the actor Colin Firth dived into this lake | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
in the TV adaptation of Pride And Prejudice, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
the author, Jane Austen, could not have foreseen | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
how hearts would quicken in the national bosom | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
as he emerged dripping in his wet blouse. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
Welcome back to a second chapter at Lyme Park in Cheshire. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Thanks to the revolution in publishing | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
brought about by the mass-produced paperback, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
authors like Jane Austen have sold millions. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Now there's a new revolution. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
With just one click, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
we can download as many books as we like. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
But where did it all start? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Well, a clue lies within those perfectly pilastered walls. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
Lyme Park is home | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
to one of the country's most treasured possessions, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
and you've probably never heard of it. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
You could say it was the hand-held device of its day, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
and it's no overstatement to say it changed the world. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
This is one of the first books to be produced on a printing press. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
It's a prayer book called the Sarum Missal, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
and it's the Adam, or Eve, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
of the mass-produced printed word. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Its creator, in 1487, was William Caxton, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
and this is his trademark. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
It's been with the former owners of Lyme Park, the Legh family, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
for almost as long as they lived here - over 500 years. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
Of the original print run, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
this is the only one left. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
It's written in Latin, | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
except for the marriage service, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
where there are blanks, deliberately, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
so that the man and woman getting married | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
could repeat their vows in English. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
So written here is "I, N," - obviously the name - | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
"take thee, N, to my wife, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:32 | |
"to have and to hold, for richer or poorer", | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
and on it goes, pretty much the same as the marriage service today. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
Except for this fabulous bit at the end | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
where the wife has to promise to be buxom at bed and board. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
The Legh family left Lyme Park with the missal in 1946. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
It returned in 2009 | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
to the safekeeping of the National Trust. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Now let's join the congregation on the lawns of this great house. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
-So it is a tea caddy. -Yes. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
-But in the form of a stack of books. -Yes. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
I have seen these before, but very rarely. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
When did you first see it? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
I must have probably been about four or five years old, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
just wandering in the living room. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
It was just sat on a bookcase at a little jaunty angle | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
and at sort of a low height for me to look at, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and I remember, when I was younger, trying to look at the books | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
and wondering why it didn't quite open properly and all that. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
Then my dad told me not to touch it any more! | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Where did it come from? | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
-Where did your father get it from? -I think he... | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Well, my father's a lawyer, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
so he does sort of probates and stuff like that, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
and I think it was in this lady's house and he... | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
You know, obviously he likes antiques, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
so he must have commented to her at some point | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
and, when she unfortunately passed away, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
her children gave my father this as a keepsake. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
And what's your interest in objects like this? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
I find antiques completely fascinating and interesting. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
I especially like things like this, you know, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
with, like, a secret, hidden function and things like that. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
So I always like the... Like the book boxes you get | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
and the book tea caddies. Just... I think they're interesting. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
So, as tea caddies go, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
the least interesting ones in general | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
-are just the standard rectangular ones. -Yeah. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
And the novelty ones like this | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
are probably some of the most fascinating ones. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
And this is quite different, in that it's made of papier-mache, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
with flower-carved, mother-of-pearl handles, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
and even traces of the zinc lining | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
inside the two compartments for black tea and green tea. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
And so, in your interest with antiques, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
what date would you put on it? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
I'd probably say it was about 1850, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
maybe 1860 at a guess. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
I agree. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
And there's a bit of a clue here. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Because there's a reference, one of the books - Pickwick. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
-Yeah. -And it's the book | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
that really made Dickens more sort of very, very widely popular. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
And that was first published in 1837. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
So what value would you place on something like this? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Erm... Depending on where you saw it... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
I mean, I might... Probably up to £1,000, maybe, in some places. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
At a guess. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
I think your guess is very good. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
I think you've got a great future in antiques, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
because I would estimate it at around £1,000, maybe £1,200. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:10 | |
So, stack of books, tea caddy - | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
it's the dark art of disguise, really, isn't it? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-Yes. -Pretty valuable one at that, though. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:19 | |
So, a sampler of the world. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
-Yes. -Where did you get it? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
My husband bought it in a local auction house in Macclesfield | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
about five years ago. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
OK. And what attracted you to it? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
I think he just thought it was really unusual. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
We've got quite a lot of samplers, but nothing quite like that. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
And, you know, it's very early - | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
you can tell by the names of the countries how early it is. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Well, it's very interesting | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
a sampler like this gives us glimpse of the world | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
as it was in the 18th century. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
-Yes. -Cos we've got New Holland, we've got all the South America. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Some places are, you know, Paraguay... | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
But virtually everything is the wrong shape. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
-Yes. -Because, obviously, when people were doing this, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
they didn't know, as we do now, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
what the countries looked like. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
I mean, If you look at New Holland, Australia, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
this side is quite correct, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
but the rest of it isn't. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-Yes. -Again, the Frozen Greenland, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
it's completely wrong in terms of what we know now. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
And, obviously, we've got some things | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
that people would find very shocking now. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Like Negroland. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
-Yes. -But you have to look at these objects | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-from the perspective of when they were made. -Yes. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
So, of course, stitched on silk, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
which is why, obviously, you've got quite a bit of damage here. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-Yeah. -And this... | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
Normally with a sampler, this sort of damage, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
this tearing and fraying, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
would take a lot off the value. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
-Yes. -But what this has... | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
And I think, you know, you've had it framed beautifully, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
it complements exactly what it is. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
It's very similar to... If you think of the globes of this period... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
-Yes. -..in the little shagreen cases. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
This symbolises that same idea, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
which works incredibly well... | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
-Yes. -..and would have taken a lot of time to do. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Probably some very aristocratic lady | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
sitting stitching this. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
This was very much the passion in the 18th century, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
this is what you did in your spare time | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
as a lady of the manor. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
And in terms of value, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
it's quite a difficult one to value, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
because samplers on the whole - | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
and you probably know this if you've got samplers - | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
samplers have gone down in value quite considerably. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
But this is such an interesting sampler. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
I would put this at between £3,000 and £5,000. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
You're joking?! | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
Oh, he'll be very pleased about that! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Good heavens. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
That's considerably more than he paid for it! | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
-That's always nice. -Yeah! | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
The sun has come out on cue | 0:07:47 | 0:07:48 | |
to show off this fabulous diamond. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
And what also caught my attention as well, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
apart from your wonderful stone, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
is the original receipt that you've brought, too, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and it's dated 1963. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
And it cost £635. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
Now, who was that who bought it? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
It was my father, for my mother. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
Yes. No particular... | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Nothing special. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-Nothing special?! -No! | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Not for any particular reason that I'm aware of. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
And have you had it valued or anything like that? | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
Well, funnily enough you should ask that, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
but about five years ago, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
in this area every so often | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
local pubs have, like, people go in and do valuation days for charity. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
So I took it along and, erm... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
they suggested a figure of around about 2,000. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
And I thought, well, perhaps it might be worth a little bit more. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
But I wasn't sure, and that's where I left it. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
That was quite brave of you, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
to go into a pub with a lovely big diamond! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
In hindsight, yes. | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
I'm pleased you came out of the pub with the diamond. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Well, the receipt is 1963, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and, yes, the mount is probably of that period. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
But the diamond is definitely an earlier stone, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and it's what we call sort of a circular-cut diamond. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
In its mount, I have approximated the weight of it, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
and it's approximately about 2.3 carats. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
And I love these cuts, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
these 1920s cuts, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
I just find really special. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
So... | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
conservatively, I would say, at auction, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
you would be looking in the region | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
of around £7,000-£9,000. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Oh. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Hmm. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
Well, it was something my mum got from an antique shop. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
-Right. -Quite a long time ago. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
My mum was always going to antique fairs and bringing things back. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
And she kept saying to me, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
"I've got this, and it's worth loads of money and you must keep it." | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
And so my mum got ill and went into a care home. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
-Right. -And there was lots of things that I took off to charity shops, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
and I hung on to this, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
because she kept telling me, you know, it's really nice... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
She obviously set a lot of store by it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-She did. -Do you know what it was used for? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, only because I watch the Antiques Roadshow! | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
I have seen one on, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:32 | |
and they said it was for paint brushes. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
-Yeah, it's a brush pot. -A brush pot. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
It's actually bamboo. It's Chinese. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
You turn it over, you look at it - actually, I love that, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
it's got a little mark, a little signature on the bottom, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I think that's probably a collector's mark. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
I love the patternation and colour on it, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
that's all really, really lovely. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
And it shows signs of use as well. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Do you know, I think this is late 18th century, or early 19th century. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
I think it's a really old one. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
And, do you know, this is worth £2,000. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
-Wow. That's a shock for you. -Your mum... | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
-Your mum was absolutely right. -She'd be so pleased. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
She was absolutely right, and it's absolutely gorgeous. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
She'd really be so pleased. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
So, congratulations, you've kept the right thing | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
-and you've kept it for all the right reasons. -That's lovely. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
I'm getting quite upset! | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
Thank you ever so much. Thank you for bringing it along, it's lovely. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
-Thank you very much. -Great. -I can't believe it! | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
Well, holding this box set of catalogues | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
takes me right back to a 15-year-old boy in Derbyshire | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
who absolutely got transfixed | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
by this auction sale. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
I remember pleading with my mum and dad | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
to buy me this set of catalogues, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
and in the end my mum buckled and said, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
-"You can have them, but they're an early Christmas present." -Right. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
You've gone one step further - | 0:11:51 | 0:11:52 | |
you've got something from the sale. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
So, tell me, how do you come to own this, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
that obviously originated out of this amazing auction? | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
The sale actually took place in 1988, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
and it was bought from the G-Mex antiques fair, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
which was held in 1989. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
And my father bought it as a surprise, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
because my mother had seen it from a distance | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
and she loved it straightaway, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
the image of Sarah Bernhardt, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
the famous Victorian actress, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Lady of the Camellias, hence the flowers around her. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Was the connection, for your dad, then, and your mum, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
was it about the Sarah Bernhardt and the actress, | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
or was it the Elton John thing? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
No, it was more to do with the fact | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
that my mother is involved | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
in dancing and acting and producing shows | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and, funnily enough, she did a bit of acting class | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
and a gentleman that she was working with there said, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
"You know who you are like?" | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
And he said, "You're like Sarah Bernhardt." | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
What it is, in context for yourself, it's a beautiful lithograph, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
you know, that circa 1900, that high Art Nouveau, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
that continental Art Nouveau movement of Sarah Bernhardt, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
who was, you know, this wonderful character, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
this star of the stage. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
You know, she was this enigma. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
It's amazing, because even from your side, then, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
there's that little touch of magic, isn't there? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
That little bit of theatre. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:19 | |
And, really, we've got to be honest, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-you don't get much more theatre than Elton John. -No. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I mean, this was a ground-breaking auction of its day. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
It captured the press, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
it captured the world's imagination. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Because here was a man who was going through | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
an absolutely unbelievable change of life. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
He actually said, you know, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
this sale for him was about cleansing. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
It was about drawing a line under his old life, | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
drawing a line under his marriage with Renate | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
and his relationships, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
and him basically coming out. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:50 | |
And the point of it all was this sale. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
He saw it as a way of saying goodbye | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
to the man that he'd pretended to be - | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
this front, this theatre - | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
and from this point on, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
it was going to be a new Elton John. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
And, actually, you know, the sale was broken down | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
into all kinds of elements - | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
his Art Deco collection, his theatrical costumes. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
And this print actually features here | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
in what was called the Diverse Collections. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
And there it is, you know... | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Paul Berthon, lot 1177. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
With a presale estimate of £300-£400. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:28 | |
I've got to ask a question - | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
what did your parents pay for it? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
Well, they paid £1,300 for it. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
OK. If you were to sell it today, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
I think you're looking at an auction estimate of £2,000-£3,000. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Right. Excellent. Excellent. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Good news. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Well, it's tantalising. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
Of course, I'm hoping... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
this is a highly important Imperial Chinese teapot. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Maybe! | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Do you know when it was wrapped up? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
Well, the newspaper's all from 1980. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
Well, it came from my father, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
but he got it from a lady in Colwyn Bay | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
who he used to do odd jobs for. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
-Yeah. -But she wouldn't use it because, erm, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
she said it was cursed. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
-So here we go. -Right. Exciting. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
-I think it starts here. -Think it does. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Will it come out? Look at that. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Cursed in which particular way? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Well, she was a bit of a cricket fanatic, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
and every now and again Lancashire would play a game at Colwyn Bay... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
..and she was watching the cricket, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
and the opposing team stuck at the wicket | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
and they couldn't get them out. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
Oh, gosh. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
And the lady - if I may - | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
took the stick and went, "Next ball, you will be out." | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
And... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
bowled. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
No! | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
Is it going to be a £2 million teapot? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
I doubt it very much, unfortunately. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
So that was the end of the stick - it was cursed. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
-My goodness! -So... | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
This would ensure that we got the Ashes every year. Brilliant! | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
Shelley, Art Deco, 1920s. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Chipped at the front, cracked at the back. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I don't know... | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
-£5 if you're lucky? -Ooh! | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Good job I didn't go out and spend it! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
As a walking stick, it's worth £150, maybe £200. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
But as... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
the magic wand which will ensure | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-that Australia never win the Ashes again... -Priceless! | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
..it is priceless. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:33 | |
So, one of these men was your grandfather. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
And Grandfather and his friends in the photograph | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
were part of this territorial unit | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
that went off to France, together, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and they were part of the unit that actually created this sign | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-in the trenches just outside Ypres. -Yes, that's correct. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
-And which one...? -It's the gentleman seated in the centre. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-And what was his name? -He was named Levi Hall. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
He was a member of the Sappers and Engineers | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
of the Sherwood Foresters that served at that time. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
-He was a Royal Engineer. -Yes. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
And where did he come from? | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
He came from New Mills, and joined, we think, in 1915, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
and served through the war then until 1918. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Now, he wrote very detailed accounts of going into the trenches. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
And one of those trenches he was in was just outside Ypres, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
a very famous place known to the soldiers as Wipers. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
And the trench was named after where they came from. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
That's correct, yes. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Tor Top is a part of New Mills, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
in the centre of New Mills, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
where we believe that most of the lads, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
or Pals, if you like, came from, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
and they joined the Sherwood Foresters. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
And we know that there were signposts in the trenches | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
familiar to them. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Piccadilly Circus. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
Hyde Park Corner. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
But one thing that we never see | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
is one of the original signs from the trenches. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
-So you look after this sign at the Heritage Centre? -Yes. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
It's New Mills Heritage Centre in Derbyshire, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and it's one of our main items in the collection. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Is New Mills Heritage Centre close to Tor Top? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Yes. It's actually on Tor Top, virtually. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
And it's called Tor Top Tunnels. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Yes. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
We forget that World War I | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
is fought at land, on the sea, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
in the air, but also underground. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Victoria Crosses are won underground | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
during the First World War. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
Tunnelling underneath the German trenches, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
laying those mines that were then exploded underneath strongpoints | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
to allow our infantry to attack. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
And this sign survived. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
It's so rare that you see a real trench sign. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
I think you need to insure it | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
for somewhere between £400 and £600. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Thank you for bringing it in. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
-Thank you. It's a pleasure. -Thank you. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
It feels like I've known these for 50 years, you know, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
because, when I was 12, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
I started going into antique shops | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
and started buying my own stuff | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
for the first time - | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
my mum and dad had been doing it for a time. And I'm telling you | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
that one of these, a smaller version of that | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
is probably the very first thing I ever bought. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
So how long have you been into it? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Well, I've been collecting them over the years, as I've seen them. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
I think that they display really nicely | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and they're fascinating, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
the way the people who make them manage to get | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
all of these lovely sort of shapes and things inside them. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-So, probably about 15-20 years. -OK. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
Well, they're interesting | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
in that they are a decorative product | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
of the Yorkshire glassworks. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
South Yorkshire - Rotherham, Doncaster, Batley. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
Around there, they had coal and sand | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
and the workforce was brought to their materials | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
cos you were dealing in heavy materials. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
And according to repute, these were end-of-day, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:11 | |
we call them friggers in this country, and these are... | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Once the glass-makers had got through the production | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
that had been agreed and once that quota had been exhausted, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
you had done what was expected of you, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
then word was that you could empty the pot, you still had glass | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
left in your furnace pot that you could make for your own stuff. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
They date from late 19th century, 1880, thereabouts. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
And one of the big makers of these was Kilner. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Most famous for their jars, so typically they made the jars | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
during the shift and then they made the end-of-day pieces later. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:48 | |
What a variety. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Now, I've never really worked out how they made the flowers in these. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
I mean, really, how did they do that? | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
I mean, that is an extraordinary creation. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Some of it is just air in there, isn't it? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
It's like me, no visible means of support, really. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-Extraordinary. -Yeah. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
However, I have to tell you, that the money I was paying for them | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
50 years ago when I was 12 is about the money they go for today. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
-Probably. -How much are you paying for them? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
I would say not more than £50. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
They're going for 50 quid. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
I think they're wonderful, and what a variety. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
And at 50 quid, bloomin' hellfire. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
-A little bit of history dating what? 1880? -Yeah. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
-Lovely. I love them. -I do too. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
-Good on you. -Thank you very much indeed. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
You're most welcome. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
From its very earliest days of its conception to | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
the Great Train Robbery, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
the Post Office has always been under attack. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
And this is the 19th century solution to stopping that attack. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
A fantastic pair of flintlock pistols marked "Post Office." | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
I wonder how you came by them? | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
I bought them at auction a few years ago at Bristol. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
I do collect a lot of Post Office memorabilia, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and of course, any Post Office collection has got to have | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
-a flintlock pistol from the Royal Mail coaches. -Absolutely. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
So, on the Royal Mail coach, you would have got these | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
flintlock pistols and how many would the guard have? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
He'd have a pair of flintlocks and a blunderbuss. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
-So he was pretty heavily armed? -Definitely. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
And it's well recorded that there was never any actual attacks | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
on Royal Mail coaches. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
These are an absolutely fantastic pair of pistols. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
And you very rarely see Royal Mail pistols, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
which makes them so very interesting. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
If I could just look at this first one. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
I think it's very interesting because it has that down the side. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
And that was there so you could... | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
stick it down the front of your trousers... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
with reasonable safety. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So you would be able to walk around and do your job, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
pulling ropes and things and you would be armed and ready | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
in case there were some dastardly French privateers | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
who attempted to rob the Mail. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
This pistol is made by Henry Nock of London who was one of the most | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
celebrated gunsmiths of his day. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
And it's fantastically well made. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
The first one's about 1800. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
This one, about 1810, something like that. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
It was made by HW Mortimer, who was gunsmith in ordinary to | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
King George III, so he was a royal gunsmith. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
So the Mail went to this fantastically important gunmaker | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and said, "We would like some pistols, please." | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
And I suspect they ordered quite a large number of them. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Because if we look on the barrel, we can see the maker's name | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
and also it says, "Number 91," so they must have ordered more than 91. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
They probably ordered 100. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Now, I've said that these are fantastically rare pistols | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and I've seen very few of them. What do you think they're worth? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
I would suggest a couple of thousand each. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I think you could stick another thousand on them | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
to about 3,000. They are very, very rare things. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
They're very, very desirable | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
and they're a real part of England, sort of coaching and mail history, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
and I think they're great. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
Thank you very much for bringing them. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
-I didn't realise they were worth that much. Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:21 | |
If ever there was a title that would attract the public, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
it's a title with "Magic" in it, so this title here, "Mathematical | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
"Magick: Or The Wonders That May Be Performed By Mechanichal Geometry." | 0:24:28 | 0:24:33 | |
And it's by J Wilkins, John Wilkins, late Lord Bishop of Chester. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
And it's printed in London in 1680. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
Tell me about it. Where did you get it from? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
It's my husband's book. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
And it's been in his family all his life. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
And he has no idea where it came from. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
-Just it's always been... -It's always been there, yes. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
John Wilkins was a very interesting man and also, 1680, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
this is a very interesting period for Great Britain. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
We'd just chopped Charles I's head off in 1649. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
Oliver Cromwell had been reigning in the interim | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and then we had Charles II, the great monarch who came back again. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
And it was a time of great thought, of great thinking, "Who are we? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
"What are we? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
"What are we doing?" And all this sort of period. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
This is the 17th century. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Have you done any work on this? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
I looked him up on the internet. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
And I found out that they still print it now. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
There are modern versions of it. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
It is a great famous book. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
We've got a picture here. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
The modern Exocet I suppose it can be. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
These arrows are fixed into this board here | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
and expelled by this ruler type of thing here. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
This pings into the arrows and they go shooting off. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
It's not a first edition of the book. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
He was dead by this time, Wilkins. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
This is a portrait of him | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
and he looks rather cavalier here with his wonderful lustrous locks. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
But in 1680 he was dead, he died in 1672. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
So this is not a first edition but a second edition of the book. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
And it's bound, as you can see, this is a contemporary binding. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
It's bound in sheep. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
Now, sheep tends to be cheaper than calf, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
as far as binding is concerned, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
it's been gilt on the spine, there's a few gilt bands here. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
So I would say, generally, for a book of this age, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
-it is in good condition. -Yes. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
So, valuation. I think somewhere between £800 to £1,000. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
Wow! Right. Thank you. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
I don't suppose in your career you were a butler or maybe a steward? | 0:26:44 | 0:26:49 | |
I'm afraid not. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
You see, I was jumping to all sorts of conclusions when I looked at | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
the bottom of this tray and I saw it said, "Cunard, Liverpool." | 0:26:54 | 0:27:00 | |
-My hometown. -It's your hometown. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
And I need to ask, how did you get hold of this, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
because it looks as thought it might have been the property of Cunard? | 0:27:07 | 0:27:13 | |
-Yes, it came home for a visit and never went back. -I see. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
-It was on shore leave? -Yes. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
OK. Right. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Because I think this would have been | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
somewhere in a first class cabin | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
on one of those great cruise ships dating to the 1930s. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
This is a very, very nice little tea service. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
I love this thing because first of all, the tray is fantastic. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
It's a rosewood tray. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Thick rosewood, which today is a listed material. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
You can't get this stuff. It's very, very rare. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
But the porcelain itself is exquisite. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
Look at that creaminess of the porcelain. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
It is brilliant, brilliant white. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Decorated with this very Chinese style grapevine design. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
And underneath, we've got everything we need to know. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
In fact, we can learn it's made by Tuscan China of... | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
Well, it says, "Liverpool," that's where it would have been retailed. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
I particularly like the teapot | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
because there is a spectacular small perfectly formed cube teapot. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:21 | |
These were designed for the tearooms of England to be stacked, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
so that in the tearooms you could simply put them one on top of the other. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
But here, these were made for the cabin. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
I think it's absolutely lovely. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
-Do you ever use it? -It dribbles quite badly. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
It would do because one of the problems creating a cube teapot | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
is where do you put the spout? | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
And you can see the spout is really not going to do much | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
but dribble off the edge there. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Lovely thing. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:52 | |
You looked a bit nervous | 0:28:52 | 0:28:53 | |
when I asked you how it had come into your hands? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Yes, it was probably listed as AWOL. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
But I think I can give you some solace. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
If this has been worrying you, let's have a look at that mark again. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
Because not only do we have the maker, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
and nice little mark there, but we have the word "Souvenir." | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
Oh! Right. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
I think when they commissioned these, they expected them | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
to leave the cabins. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
I think we should take it in that spirit. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
What's it actually worth? | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
I'm going to put somewhere in the region of £400 to £700 on it. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
Oh, thanks, Mum. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
Thank you. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
Well, we have the perfect sunny day to be using your sundial. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
I inherited it this year from my parents. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
It was my father's and it was my father's father's, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
so my grandfather. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
And my father loved it, treasured it, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
played with it a little bit, so I had an idea what it was, | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
but I wasn't really allowed to touch it until this year. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
-So what we've got here is a little pocket compass and sundial. -Right. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
So if we flip up the centre, like that. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
And if we point it between the north | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
and the south poles we can tell what time of day it is. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
So that's why we've got the compass on there. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
So if I point it in the right direction, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
by my reckoning, it's about ten past three. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Great. Perfect. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
It's signed here. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
And it's made by a maker, it's signed Watkins of London. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
And that's a gentleman by the name of Francis Watkins and he set up | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
business making these types of instruments in 1747 in London. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:46 | |
What's interesting about this one is that this case is made from | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
what we could call vernis Martin, which is a type of imitation lacquer | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
copying that sort of Chinese lacquers. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
And I think that would have adorned any gentlemen's table at home | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
and I think it's a great object. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Sundials have been around for a very, very, long time. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
What I really love about this one is the age and I think date-wise, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
it's probably going to be something around | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
latter part of the 18th century. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
So I reckon about 1790, something like that in date. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Maybe through to about 1800. So sort of 1790, 1800. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
What I'm coming onto, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
what I really like is actually the condition is really very good. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
I think anybody who collects this type of thing would die to | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
get this today and I think if it came up at an auction, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
it would carry a pre-sale estimate, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
I'm going to say, between £800 and £1,200. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Gracious. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
This is a story of how one of the richest football clubs in | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
the world was saved by a St Bernard. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
-This St Bernard. -Exactly, yes. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
These are some items from the archives of one Elsie Davies, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:58 | |
whose father was John Henry Davies. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
John Henry Davies was a famous brewer. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
He owned the Manchester Brewery Company in Manchester, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
and he got involved with a team called Newton Heath. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
And the way that happened was | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Newton Heath were in desperate straits, financially. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
And this was when? What, the early 1900, turn of the century? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
He got involved in 1902, we're talking. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
So to raise money the captain of the side, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Harry Stafford, he got a St Bernard dog. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
And he took it to the fundraiser event in Manchester with a box | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
strapped to it's back for people to put money in. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
What happened on the day, the dog got lost, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
but it was rescued by one of the licensees in one of his pubs. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:45 | |
Took it back to John Henry Davies, said, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:46 | |
"Can you find the owner of this dog?" | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
He says, "OK." | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
They found the owner who happened to be the captain of Newton Heath. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
The story comes out then that they need financial help and he says, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
"You give me the dog for my daughter and I'll help you save the club." | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
And they did. Him and four other gentlemen, they raised £500 each. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
They paid off their debts. They improved the ground facilities. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
Now, not everyone will know, but die-hard fans of this club | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
certainly will, that Newton Heath then became... | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Manchester United. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
And do you know why Newton Heath chose to change their name? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
I don't really know the real sort of understanding from it, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
but Newton Heath, basically, they were made up of railway workers. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
That was the formation of the team. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
But even then, they were attracting crowds of 20 and 30,000 | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
to the Bank Street Stadium in Clayton. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
But actually where the United came from, I think | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
the fact it was Manchester, a Manchester team, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
he owned the Manchester Brewery, perhaps that was the... | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
It was a team for all Manchester. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
He wanted it and then obviously it was united. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
It was very nearly the team that never was | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
-if it wasn't for this St Bernard. -If it wasn't for that St Bernard, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
who knows what would have happened to Newton Heath. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Well, I think it's fair to say that this girl cannot be | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-described as a local Cheshire lass. -Quite right. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
Well, this is a real case of little and large. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
An extraordinary size of jug. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
-Did you inherit it? -Yes. From my father. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
He went to Manchester and came home with her. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
We think it was from an auction. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
And my mother was very impressed at his good choice. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
Well, what an understanding wife. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
She wanted a hot water jug to go with her teapot. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
To go with the set. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
Imagine her surprise when she opened up the parcel. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
She was not very happy. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
I'll bet. But in some ways, it's remarkable. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
I've never seen a jug that size in silver. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
If I dare boldly go and show this lady's sort of, um, garment. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:53 | |
I'm not quite sure what you would... | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
What would you describe? You're a woman. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
-You know what these are called. -Well, not quite knickers, are they? | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Not quite, no. They're a bit more exotic than that. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
So as far as the value goes, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:04 | |
it's not worth a lot more than the actual silver weight. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
-Yeah. -You're looking at maybe £1,000, up to £1,500. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
-I didn't expect much more, actually. -So it's going to go back in the box | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
and then you're going to bring it to the next Roadshow | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
in five years' time and hope the price of silver's gone up. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-This has got a maker on the back. -Yes. -OK. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
-And the maker's name is there. Galli. -Yes. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
Your odalisque, to give a respectable title, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
is worth in the region of about £500. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
Well, you'll see that the box is labelled in gilt letters. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Liberty and Co. Now there's a name to conjure with. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
My mother-in-law dabbled in antiques. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
And she bought for our wedding present a honeymoon in Paris. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
Oh, wonderful, yes. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
And the beautiful teaspoons. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
And I would be very surprised | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
if they achieved a figure of less than certainly £300 or £400. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
Wonderful. Thank you very much. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Well, two rather nice objects, if I might say so. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
Thank you. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
A lovely big watch in the hand. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Am I to assume that it belonged to one of these two chaps over here? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
Yes. That's my great grandfather Thomas Dickson Hunter | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
who was a grocer, an agricultural merchant. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
I'm assuming it belonged to him. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
You can see the chain there, so I assume he's got it in his pocket. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
OK. And how did you get them? | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
Just came down through the family, really. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
Through various wills and ended up in my bottom drawer. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
-So really in your bottom drawer? -It is. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
-You don't know anything about these things at all? -No. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
OK. Well, let's start with this. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
It's a big, big watch in the hand, a heavy watch. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
And it's dating from the English Regency period, so about 1820. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
But it's got a lovely machine-turned dial, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
lovely heavy raised gold numerals. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Jolly good object. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:56 | |
And a beautiful engine-turned case at the back. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Now, it happens to have this rather long pendant. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
-Do you know what that does? -Sorry, no idea. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
So if I pushed it like this... | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
FAINT ALARM SOUNDS | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
-You haven't heard that before? -No. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
OK. That is what we call quarter repeating. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
OK. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
So now it's just sort of after quarter to one, so it did | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
the 12 and then it done the ding, dong, ding, dong for each quarters. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
But very rapidly because it obviously needs adjustment. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
There we are. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
So it's by a chap called Samuel Quilliam. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
-Right. -I don't know much about him. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
But I do know that he is a Regency watchmaker and case maker. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
The important thing is the escapement. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
So, looking at this balance we have two big heavy brass | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
compensation weights | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
and down there, we have a lovely blued steel helical balance spring. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:58 | |
And this is the clue that it is a pocket chronometer. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
The pocket chronometer is absolutely top of the range. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-OK. -It's a spring detent escapement. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
So we have a quarter repeating pocket chronometer. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
All I can tell you is that the grocer shop | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
must have been doing very well. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
This would have been... | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
probably ten years' salary for the average working man when it was new. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
-Gosh. -So, he left you that and he left you this clock. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
He did. It just reminds me of being at my grandparents'. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
It sat in the hall and it was very familiar. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
And he always used to say to me, "Oh, this is a very early clock. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
"It's a very good clock." | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
And that's, apart from looking up the name, and where it's from, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
I don't know anything more about it, really. I was intrigued. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Well, Thomas Bruton and that's Bow, obviously, in London. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
The joy of this clock is that I have had the chance to look inside | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
and it is the original verge escapement. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
But it's basically a really lovely early English dial clock. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
That's what he always used to tell me. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
Dating from just a little bit earlier than the watch. | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
Approximately about 1810, something like that. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
So, both very similar periods. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
Which do you prefer? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Probably this because it's just so familiar with hanging in the hall | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
and running down the hallways as a little girl, hearing the tick tock. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
That's quite manly, I think. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
OK, well, you've chosen that one. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
-I'm going to choose this one. -OK. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
Price at auction on this is going to be in the region of £2,000. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:26 | |
Very good. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
And quarter repeating pocket chronometer in 18-carat | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
gold by a London maker... | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
..£5,000 to £6,000. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
-Gosh. -Lovely thing. -Thank you. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I understand these have been in the attic for how many years? | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
-40 years. -Why is that? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
Well, when my grandmother died she loved these things, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
they'd always been on her sideboard. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
And nobody in the family wanted them. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
And I just couldn't send them to the tip. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
It would have broke my heart. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
So I took them home, but I had nowhere to put them. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
-Where would you put three firemen like this? -Well, exactly. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
And I think this is really why many other people would have | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
put them in the attack as well. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
When these were produced in the 1870s, 1880s, | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
large dining rooms and large areas with large pieces of furniture | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
took these pieces really very well. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
And now suddenly we're all living in smaller accommodation | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
and consequently there's nowhere to put these outsized pieces. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
But do you know anything about them at all? | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
Supposedly my grandfather brought them | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
back from the First World War when he was serving in France. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
Other than that, I don't know anything. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:34 | |
Well, that was quite a brave thing to do. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
Most soldiers brought back a small dish. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
And here he struggled back with three enormous spelter figures. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
-Well, he was a bit of a character. -He must have been. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
These initially would have had a simulated bronze finish. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
They would have looked much grander than they do now. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
But they've rather pickled back and we're down to the basic alloy | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
of which they were made. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
But I love the dramatic effect that we've got here. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Here we've got this one fireman saving this young child. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
But there he is. If you look at it, he's balancing right on the ridge | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
tiles of a cottage or a house. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
In the centre, we've got the main firemen there with his | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
two medals, saving a colleague. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Again, they're standing on the prow of a cottage there with | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
flames piling through the slates. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
And on the far side, we've got another fireman rushing up | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
the steps there with a hose which actually looks rather too small | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
to do the job, I have to say. So what's your plan with them now? | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Well, I'm moving to an even smaller house | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
so I'm afraid they have got to go. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I was hoping that if they were taken from a fire station | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
or something in France, they could go back there. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
I think they will end up in a collection of that type. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Somebody who collects fire memorabilia, fire engines, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
fire effects, really. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
So what were they likely to make? | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
You should get 300-350 for the set. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
Yes, I'm not bothered about the money. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
I would just like them to be preserved. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
I just don't want them to be destroyed. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
I think they've been with us long enough to have survived. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
OK. Thank you very much indeed. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
Well, I don't think this is the Good Ship Lollipop. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Because I've got the suspicion she was called The Three Sisters. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
That's correct. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:09 | |
The initials on the back of the glass belong to | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
the master of that ship. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
His wife had two other sisters who married brothers of | 0:42:16 | 0:42:21 | |
my great great grandfather. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
His sister married my great great grandfather. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
-Very complicated arrangement. -Yes. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
But to assume that he called the ship after his wife | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
and her two sisters and it was sailing out of Scarborough | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
in the 1790s, supplying Wellington in the Peninsular War. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
-That right? What's his name? -Richard Crosswood. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
I don't know what the "N" stands for. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
OK. His middle name. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
What is she? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
She's a cargo vessel, is she? | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Yes, it was a vessel called a snow, which apparently is a type of brig. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
-OK. -About 300 tonnes or thereabouts. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
Isn't that magical that you can trace lineage? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
This bond that we enjoy between ourselves and stuff. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
And, Guy, your story, it's just... Really, it's in a nutshell. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 | |
It's a beautifully executed glass. The engraving is a high quality. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
It has a lemon squeezer base. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
It's inconceivable for us to imagine what it's like, | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
life without electric light. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
And so the table was bedecked and the room was bedecked with candles. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
Hundreds of candles to generate enough light. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:31 | |
And the purpose of the lemon squeezer, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
it's formed on exactly the same principle as the common lemon | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
squeezer they use for squeezing lemons, believe it or not. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
And the idea is that you have a series of arcades within | 0:43:41 | 0:43:46 | |
the foot, all of which are designed to capture light, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
take it in and fire it out again, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
to sparkle in candlelight. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
It's a lovely glass, beautifully executed, | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
and it's direct lineage to you, which is the best element about it. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
-Do you ever use it? -I haven't done, no. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
-Well, I think you should break... -Not quite big enough. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
Not quite big enough. A man after my own heart! | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
It is bit titchy, I must admit. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
Anyway, look, you've got three of them, as it happens, | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
which is just triple bonus. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
And their value, I suppose retail would be about £250 each, | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
which is worth your while putting a little wine in them | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
tonight and cheering your good fortune. | 0:44:26 | 0:44:29 | |
-Will do. -Cheers. -Thank you. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
Well, an amazing comical crow. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
And the thing that will surprise a lot of people is who made it. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
And it's not until I do this that all becomes clear. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:46 | |
It's the one and only Ms Clarice Cliff, who for me, | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
as many people know, I think | 0:44:48 | 0:44:51 | |
is one of the greatest ceramic designers of the 20th century. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
But what on earth is she doing producing a crow like this? | 0:44:54 | 0:44:59 | |
And also... | 0:44:59 | 0:45:00 | |
where did it come from? How on earth did you come to own it? | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
Well, it was my sister-in-law who bought it from a flee market | 0:45:03 | 0:45:08 | |
in Stockport about 40 years ago for her mother. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:13 | |
And that's the history I know | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
and it's always been in the family from then on. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
And did you always know it was your Clarice Cliff crow? | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
Later on. Not at first. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:24 | |
Yes, later on when Clarice Cliff became a bit more popular. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:29 | |
But mostly with her china and her cups and saucers and plates. | 0:45:29 | 0:45:34 | |
Well, I have to tell you something. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
I've been doing Clarice Cliff now for 30 years. I've never seen one. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
-No. -It's the first time I've ever managed to | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
get my hands on one of these. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:45 | |
I'd heard about them, I'd seen a little photograph in a book, | 0:45:45 | 0:45:49 | |
but I've never ever got one. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
And in terms of the date, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
it's in a very specific period of between 1937 and 1952. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:58 | |
And actually that's about when the market was changing. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
Clarice realised that all the bold and the jazzy stuff wasn't quite | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
so popular and she reverts back to doing what | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
she loves the most, which is modelling. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
I think it's so good to see because I think it's actually shows that | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
there was more to her than just crocus flowers | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
and bold jazzy paintings and all these abstract patterns. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
He's comic, he's fun. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
He's not necessarily everything that a typical Clarice Cliff | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
collector would want. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
I know that there are collectors out there who'd love these. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:29 | |
And do you know what? | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Get one of those, they'll give you £200-£300 for him. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
Gosh. Well, that's amazing. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
The Freemason Fraternity is one of the world's largest | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
non-religious, non-political institutions. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
So you brought along items that all have emblems relating to | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
the Freemasons, so I can assume that not only are you a collector | 0:46:52 | 0:46:56 | |
of all things Freemasonry, but you are a Mason yourself? | 0:46:56 | 0:47:00 | |
I am. Signed up. Affiliated. Yes. I have been for many years. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
So there was a lot of material manufactured over the years. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
And this is a mantel clock, but not an English one. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
-This one's French, is it? -Yes. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
They do them in French enamel. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:14 | |
That particular clock dates to circa 1920s. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:18 | |
Lots of triangular things around the time of Tutankhamen et cetera, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
and Masons went into the symbolism. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
-And you get the all-seeing eye. -Yeah. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
And obviously other tools that would have been used by Masons, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
-so the compass, the rule. -Yeah. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
And the scales, what do they represent? | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
That's the level, basically. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
-It means people meet on the level, et cetera. -Ah! | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
Yeah, so you go that way. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
Tell me about the fraternity itself. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
Well, Freemasonry has been going back to the times, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
I would say, of King Solomon and his temple. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
So you're going back several thousand years, basically. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
And it was all to do with stonemasons. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:04 | |
As they went through apprenticeships, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
they would need to be recognised as being quality stonemasons. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:10 | |
So they would pick up signs, tokens, handshakes, et cetera, | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
to identify them when they're moving from job to job. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
And that was basically your CV. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
Over the years, it's now progressed. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
Freemasonry has changed | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
and it's now become more of a charitable organisation. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Now, obviously, your prize possessions is this amazing | 0:48:25 | 0:48:30 | |
chain of a whole range of pens. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
There's what looks like a football, but they all open up. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:40 | |
They do. They open up mostly into the signs of crosses or stars. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:46 | |
The symbols on the inside of them tell a story | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
and as you go through the different degrees in Freemasonry | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
you would open up the cross, read them, | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
normally you would read them from bottom to top | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
and then down the cross. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
-And it will give you things to moralise on. -OK. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
-Sort of like an aide-memoire? -It is, yeah. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
And you got a miniature book. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
That is the Volume of the Sacred Law. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
Basically, it's the Bible. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
But that particular one comes from Glasgow. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
It was made in Glasgow round about 1920s. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:24 | |
It's unusual that it has the gold binding | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
-and the gold pages on the inside. -Fantastic. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:31 | |
And how long have you been collecting? | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Probably round about four or five years now. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
You've achieved a remarkable... | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
-Thank you. -..collection in such a short time. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
-You must be very enthusiastic? -Yes. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
That's great because collecting's all about passion. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
And you're obviously a passionate collector | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
and you've put together a wonderful collection. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
-And it's worth money. -Thank you. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
The watch does turn up quite regularly at auction, but also | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
with the chain attached, I mean, I think that is a quite rare thing. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
I would assume at auction we would put a value of between | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
-£1,500 and £2,000 on that. -Thank you. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:11 | |
This is rarer. I've never seen one before. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
So, by itself, I would think between £2,000 and £3,000. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:19 | |
OK. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
But this is a difficult one. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
There are things there I've never seen. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
You must be talking about a figure between, I would think, | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
£8,000 and £12,000. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
They are gold, they are silver, they're incredibly rare. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:34 | |
Fantastic collection and thank you so much for bringing them along. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
You're welcome. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:38 | |
Firstly, what a beautiful colour. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:42 | |
Jade green. Oriental jade green. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
It looks beautiful against this backdrop. It looks great. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
So this was a very early woofer or tweeter. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:52 | |
And it's made to amplify the sound out... | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
-I see. -..in your posh cruise cabin. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
It would sit on a sideboard and it could cover a speaker. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
So it would hide it, it would make this cabin more functional, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
spacious and you can imagine the first time it went off. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
"This is the captain speaking." | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:51:16 | 0:51:17 | |
Fright of your life. "This Buddha is talking to me!" | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
So it's also functional and beautiful | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
and goes with the height of luxury travel in the '20s and '30s. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
Tell me, what do you know about it? | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
Well, it belonged to my great uncle. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
He was fond of anything that was a bit different. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
He died and left it to his sister, my grandmother. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Who then of course died and then left it to my mother. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
And I've got it now. | 0:51:44 | 0:51:45 | |
And I love the colour, but I don't know a lot about it. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
It almost looks like a contemporary colour. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
It will go in with any room set in today. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
Even though it's made in the 1925, '35 period, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
and made by the Doulton factory | 0:51:57 | 0:51:58 | |
around the Staffordshire potteries area | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
for Artandial and Co. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
And Artandial supplied the cruise liners of their day, | 0:52:05 | 0:52:10 | |
some of the biggest cruise liners. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
This is the time when people carried Louis Vuitton cases with them | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
and went across the world, oceanic transport. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
So it's a generic oriental style. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
It's neither a Buddha, a sage or an immortal. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
And it's got this beautiful fretwork, the style underneath it. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:29 | |
Lets the light just fall underneath it. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
So where do you have it in your house? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
It's in the window, funnily enough. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:36 | |
I just like. It goes in the room and I just like it. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
I would love this in my room. I think it's beautiful. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
There's not a lot of them around or made. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
I have seen cockatoos making £200, £300-£400. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:52 | |
But I will put this in the region of £500-£600. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
Oh. Wonderful. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
And I think it's an achievement, that. It really is. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
So take it back home, put in the window and enjoy it. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
-I will. -Thanks for bringing it along. Thank you. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:06 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
I always get a thrill from historical portraits. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
And of course we're looking at a face of speed and locomotion. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
-This is George Stephenson. -It is. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
-The great locomotion architect. -That's right. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
-Designer... -Engineer. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
And engineer. Am I right in thinking this has been in a factory? | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
Yes. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:30 | |
The company that his son set up, Robert Stephenson, | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
was based in Newton-le-Willows by the railway | 0:53:34 | 0:53:37 | |
and we inherited that company. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:39 | |
I see. And so where was it actually hanging? | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
In the boardroom. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
It's been in the boardroom for as long as anyone knows, really. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
And it still is. It's still in ours now. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
So the face of someone who has inspired the business, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
the factory, and of course the history of locomotion | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
-has been looking down upon you... -In the boardroom, yeah. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
-..as they're working and making decisions. -Yeah, that's right. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
We like to think of him as the grandfather of the company. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
So you're looking at a portrait which is, in some ways, | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
a typical Victorian worthy, although it's very, very early Victorian, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:12 | |
if it is Victorian. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:14 | |
It's painted... Actually, why should it not be painted in 1845, | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
the date that is says here? | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
And every portrait that is of a historical person tries, | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
if they're famous during their day, | 0:54:26 | 0:54:28 | |
to say something about the achievements of that person, | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
that man or woman. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
And here, it's all in the left-hand corner. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
There you have a pair of dividers. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
That is rather wonderful, in a way, | 0:54:38 | 0:54:39 | |
because the picture leaves you in no doubt as to his qualifications. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:43 | |
-Sure. -He was a very interesting man. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
I mean, his parents were illiterate. He was self-taught, wasn't he? | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
Yeah. And he also invented one of the miner safety lamps. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
Like the Davy lamp, but his version of it. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
Well, what is this painting, in terms of our history? | 0:54:55 | 0:55:00 | |
You can see down there it says Henry Pickersgill. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:06 | |
Henry Pickersgill, early 19th century, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
an artist of celebrities and leading figures. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
But there's a problem | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
because there's a portrait by Henry Pickersgill. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Have you seen it in the National Portrait Gallery? | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
I've seen it online in their collection, yeah. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
-Exactly the same picture. -So you have exactly the same picture? -Yeah. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
Is it a fake? | 0:55:24 | 0:55:25 | |
Is it a copy? | 0:55:25 | 0:55:27 | |
-Did he do copies? I don't know. -Artists sometimes did versions. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:30 | |
They replicated their own works. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
-OK. -They did variants. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
And if you look into this picture and areas of this picture, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
the quality begins to shine forth. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
I mean, look at the arm of that chair. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
Look at the way the creases are done in the material, the fabric. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
Is it leather? I'm not sure. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
But this is an artist who knows his way around a still life object. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
-Yeah. -And then there's something else which is rather reassuring. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
-A signature on the bottom there. Have you seen that? -Yeah. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
That looks to me like the cipher of Henry Pickersgill. | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
-So you've had it cleaned recently? -Yes, we had it cleaned last year. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:06 | |
And it's been in boardrooms all its life, | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
so it's had nicotine all over it, no doubt. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
So now we come to the gritty subject of its valuation. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
Well, as a copy, as a contemporary copy, it would be worth £1,500. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
And on reflection, having looked at all | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
the elements in the painting, | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
having looked at the quality of some of the areas, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
having read through the condition and working out how it might look | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
if it were better restored, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
on balance, I think it is by Henry Pickersgill. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
-And, therefore, it's not a copy. -OK. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
Probably worth about £25,000. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
Gosh. Really? More than we thought. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
Well, thanks, Philip. That's great. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
Do you remember how at the beginning of the programme | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
I mentioned that Mr Darcy moment when Colin Firth emerged from this | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
lake, dripping and glorious in the TV adaption of Pride and Prejudice? | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
Well, sadly, Colin Firth hasn't turned up today. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
But our arms in military expert Robert Tilney is threatening to | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
re-enact the scene for us. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
And we're all rather hoping he doesn't. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow team, bye-bye. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
Subtitles by Ericsson. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 |