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Tonight on the Antiques Roadshow we are doing something rather special. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
We're about to board a great icon of the age of steam. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
It evokes strong passions, reducing sensible people to quivering jelly. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:54 | |
There's been huge excitement up and down the country, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
grown men have been seen weeping openly in fields, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
whole families have camped out in the hope of a quick glimpse, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
and I can't wait. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Because any minute, she's going to be coming round that corner. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
She's back on the rails. It's Britain's - perhaps even the world's - | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
most famous steam locomotive. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
Yes, it's been a year of Flying Scotsman frenzy, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
and we're about to get our own very special ride. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Here she comes. Look at that! | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
The sound, the smell - there's nothing like it. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
Welcome to the golden age of travel on the Flying Scotsman. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
It's an ambitious first for the Antiques Roadshow - | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
never before have we held a show on anything like a moving train. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
The Flying Scotsman's been undergoing restoration since 2006, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
costing £4 million. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
And its first outings in 2016 caused world headlines. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
No-one could've imagined the public passion | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
for this romantic relic of the steam age. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
Its launch attracted the kind of attention normally reserved for A-list celebrities. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
People flocked to see the Flying Scotsman as it sped through towns and the countryside. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
Now we've our own opportunity to take some lucky Roadshow viewers on board | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
with their vintage travel treasures. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Earlier this year we put the word out | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
that we'd be celebrating the golden age of travel in a special programme. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Well, a few lucky Antiques Roadshow viewers, complete with their precious mementos, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
are now boarding the Flying Scotsman in our own exclusive carriage. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Later, we'll be meeting an obsessive vintage airline uniform collector. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
How many of these have you got at home? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
At the last count, 133. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
The pilot who barrel-rolled Concorde. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
They were aghast. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
And the Flying Scotsman memorabilia | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
that gets expert Paul Atterbury all of a quiver. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
It's like holding the relic of a true saint. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
We've chosen experts Hilary Kay, John Foster and Paul Atterbury | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
to join us, each passionate about bygone eras of travel. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
This is your idea of a dream come true, isn't it, Paul Atterbury, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
you mad train enthusiast, you? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
I'm a very lucky boy. I mean, to be...a day with the Flying Scotsman, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
Britain's most famous locomotive, a day on the train, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
-what more could one want? -I don't know. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
John, what about you, are you enjoying it? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
I've never been on it before and it is just every boyhood dream. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-It's amazing. -What about you, Hilary? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Well, anything to do with steam. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
You know, the smell of it, the excitement. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
The sound. All those smuts blowing in your face. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
And, I suppose, anything that can turn the key on the golden age of travel. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
Our journey will take us 140 miles, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
speeding through some of Britain's most breathtaking scenery, to York. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
And what better way to start than with a story about the Flying Scotsman itself? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:17 | |
Wonderful looking out the window and seeing all this steam. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
In 1923, in Doncaster, the Flying Scotsman was built. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
It was the first nonstop locomotive | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
to travel between London and Edinburgh. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Its journey made history, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
travelling nearly 400 miles in seven and a half hours. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
And at the time, that was the longest uninterrupted rail service | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
anywhere in the world. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
Among the Roadshow viewers who contacted us were Graham and Simon, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
the great-grandsons of one of the drivers on that record-breaking run. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
This was their chance to be reunited with their great-grandfather's loco, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
and to tell us their story. | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
Now, one of the things that has always excited me | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
was the idea of running nonstop between London and Scotland. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
Now, Thomas Blades was one of the drivers on that historic run. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
And he was your great-grandfather. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Yes, yeah. And it's such an honour today to be on that very same train. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:20 | |
This is a lifelong dream for me, really, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
so for the last two or three years | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
I've been doing research into my great-grandfather and found lots of information about him. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
Found this picture at a local railway museum. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
My mother told me about the record-breaking run that he was involved in in 1928, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:37 | |
the run from King's Cross to Edinburgh. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
And Thomas Blades was the relief driver who took over at Tollerton, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-just near York. -Yes. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
And took the train all the way to Edinburgh. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
And by the relief driver, of course, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
he travelled the first part of the journey in the carriage. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
In the carriage, absolutely. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
He then went through the tender in the special corridor, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
-swapped over with driver Pibworth, who then went back. -Absolutely. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
And the train never slowed. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -They swapped their hands off the regulator. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-You can see it happening, can't you? -Absolutely that, yeah. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Now, I've got this book here, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
which is a standard LNER locomotiveman's pocket book. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
But of course this is his, isn't it? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Yes, it is, yes, we found it clearing out my mother's house after she died, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
and noticed that it had his name in, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
and the various notes in the back about the record-breaking run. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
There it is, that he did that run. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Yes. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
And do you think he had this with him at the time? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I think so, yeah, because it tells you how to set fires in the boiler | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and all the maintenance of the engine, et cetera. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
I'm sure by then he didn't need to be told those things. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
But nonetheless, you would always carry your pocket book in case something went wrong. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
Yeah. To tell you if you need to fix something. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Not only have you got the locomotive, you've got the book. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
That he carried with him. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
He's almost with us, isn't he? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I think it's a wonderful story. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
And it's a real insight to me into how skilful those men were. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
They were a great race of drivers. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Celebrities of the day as well. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-They were the stars. -Absolutely. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
Yeah, they were superstars of the day and there was lots written about them. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
I found a number of articles in newspapers and various magazines, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
and the real passion that the whole of the country had | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
in terms of that speed and beating records. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
Now, actually, I've got a piece of film that relates very much to this. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:25 | |
This is the Scotsman | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
on another high-speed run. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Sadly, it's not Thomas Blades, but it could have been. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
It shows how popular the locomotive was. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
It's been popular all its life. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
There are always crowds watching the departure. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Fantastic, isn't it? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
-Absolutely. -Have you seen it before? -Haven't seen this one before, no. -No. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
Now, we're supposed to do values. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
A tatty old book - what's it worth? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
I mean, you'd be lucky to get £5 for it. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
That's not the point. Just think of what it tells us about your | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-great-grandfather. -Absolutely, but it would never be sold. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
It'll always stay in the family. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
And carry on the research, heaven knows what you might find next. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
'Overhearing Paul's conversation has prompted me to change into regulation railway gear. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
'I'm going to find out what it was like to crawl through the narrow | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
'corridor that allowed Thomas Blades to take over as relief driver | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
'on the record-breaking nonstop run to Scotland.' | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
NOISE OF ENGINE ALMOST DROWNS OUT HER WORDS | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
WHISTLE BLOWS | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
'While we stoke the furnace,' | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
let's recall some classic moments | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
that visitors to the Roadshow have shared with us from the age of steam travel. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
Let's begin by remembering a great find that excited Hilary Kay. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
One of the earliest toy trains in the programme's history. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
There are lots of treats involved | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
with working on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
and I have to say, one of them is very occasionally to come across | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
something that is THE best of its kind. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
And this is one of those moments. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
It is exquisite metalworking at its very best. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
This is all handmade out of tin | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
with occasional little pieces of brass, around 1845, 1850. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
And the more you look at it, the more fabulous it is. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
The boiler here is faceted, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
then coming back you've got the three classes of coach. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
First class, closed in. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Second class, just with a roof. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
And third class, well... | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
you take your risks. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
You hope it's a day like this. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
As it always is in Scotland! | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
But look, I'm sure you've done this, Jane, but I'm going to do it, too... | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
In there, all those fabulous little people. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
It looks like a sort of outing from Jane Austen. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
There they all are off on their picnic or whatever. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
I would be confident in saying this would fetch something | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
between £25,000 and £35,000 at auction. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
And for insurance, certainly £50,000. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
When we visited Swindon Steam Railway Museum, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Paul Atterbury was in his element. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Not only was he surrounded by the smell and smuts of locos galore, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
but he also discovered a rare and early railway sign found in a garden. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
You know, it's really exciting for me to see this map sign. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Because for a start, it's about the Great Western Railway, which I - | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
and everybody - loves. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
It's also a wonderful vision of how that company saw itself, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
and how it developed early in its history. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Now, let's look at the story briefly it tells. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
This is the map of the Great Western network, and its connections. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
-That's right. -But it's really about going to Ireland, isn't it? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
By the new Fishguard route. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
-That's right. -Which is from there to Rosslare. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
And this was about the Great Western competing with its main rivals. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
The main route, of course, was Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
but that was the London and North Western. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
Can we date it, do you think, from that? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Yeah. Almost exactly. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
The route opened in August 1906. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
So it has to be after that date? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
It has to be 1906, because they would probably advertise it prior to... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
But they're still calling it new, so this is 1906-1908. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
It's also in quite good condition. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
It's an extraordinary survival. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Enamel signs rust. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
If I saw that for sale, I'd expect quite a lot for it. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
But you got it in your garden. 30 years sat in the garden. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
-In the garden, yeah. -It's amazing it survived. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
I would say £1,500-£2,000. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
-Honest? -Honest. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
Our final favourite classic moment for now | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
is from Walthamstow Town Hall. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
The value of a rare railway ticket turned out to be a huge surprise | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
for one of our visitors. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
What we've got here is a ticket for the Midland Counties Railway, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
and this is a ticket for the opening of the railway. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Dated on the bottom 30th of May 1839. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
The Midland Counties Railway, which opened then, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
came about effectively | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
for the sort of drive and the keenness to supply coal to Leicester. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
So you effectively paid nothing for this, did you? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
-You inherited it. -Yeah, yeah, I did, yeah. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
So if I were to say to you £1,000, what would you say? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
What, for that? LAUGHTER | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Rare, rare, rare. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Railway memorabilia is really hotly collected. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
-MAN: -Incredible. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
You are... You're having a mumble, in't ya? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
You're winding me up, in't ya? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
I don't think he is, mate! | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
Not a shadow of a doubt, my friend. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Oh, what? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Later, we'll return to more stories from the steam era. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
As we return to our guests on board the Flying Scotsman, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
we move from one golden age of travel to another, to flight. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
In the 1940s, the era of luxury passenger flight really took off, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
with magnificent flying boats | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
travelling between London and Australia. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Hilary Kay is meeting a visitor | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
whose father once flew these exotic trips. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
I'm looking at a tableful of items that relate | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
to the very early, the golden days, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
if you like, of commercial air travel. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Now, what's your relationship with this group of objects? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
Well, it all stems from my father's involvement in aeroplanes | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
at that time. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
My father actually developed a passion for flying in his teens, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and that stayed with him all his life, until he died in his 80s. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
And looking at this, it looks as though he went | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
almost immediately into working for Imperial Airways, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
best known for its use of the Empire flying boats. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
-Yes. -He started with the BOAC in 1946, and he start flying via France | 0:14:46 | 0:14:53 | |
into Cairo, Bahrain, Calcutta, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and then over to Singapore, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and then a little later, Australia and into New Zealand as well. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
Exactly. And it was a glamorous time. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Yes, because in the evenings, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
everybody dressed for dinner, and he was part of the social side of the life. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
Unless there was something he detected that had gone wrong with the aeroplane during the day, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
in which case, usually in full evening dress, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
he might be found on the wing of the plane, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
mending a propeller or something. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
-A bit like this, in fact. -Exactly. -Exactly. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
So he had to do that and then he would put on his white silk gloves | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
-to go to dinner. -To cover... | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Because his hands were still covered in oil from doing the mending, so... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
How amazing. That's the point, actually, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
that it was a stopping service. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
You would land, you would probably go to a very smart hotel, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
you would have your dinner, you would sleep, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
then you would board the flying boat the next day and off you'd go. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
Well, this is the flying boat in action. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
And let's just watch what your father would have had to have done as the captain. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:03 | |
It's a vast craft. It comes down very smoothly. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
I suppose there must have been some choppy landings. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
But on an estuary like this, out comes the co-pilot, grabs the buoy... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:14 | |
One forgets, of course, you had to tie up to something. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Here comes the tender to take all the glamorous folks to the shore. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
And, gosh, where are we? | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
This looks very grand. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
Looked like it could have been the Taj, it could have been... | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
It looked like the gateway to India, didn't it? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
-Yes. -And this is the sort of hotel, of course, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
they would have gone into overnight. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
-Absolutely. -There couldn't be anything that more exemplifies | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
the golden age of travel. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
So when one's looking at a collection like this, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
the material that you have here, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
the flying boots, the gloves, the helmet, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
the oxygen mask, I mean, those have a tangible value. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
I'd put those cumulatively at about £1,500. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
The rest has a priceless value | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
-to you and your family. -It does, it does. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Well, thank you very much indeed. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
Don't we all wish we could still do that journey? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
-Absolutely, we do. -We do indeed! | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Thank you very much indeed. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
Our next story takes us to a different form of early flight - | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
the airship. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
The British R101 hoped to herald a new age of luxury travel. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
But it crashed on its maiden flight in 1930, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
tragically killing most passengers on board. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
As the Flying Scotsman pauses to take on water, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Paul Atterbury is meeting the first officer's granddaughter, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
to hear her poignant tale. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Here we are, stationary, unusually on this voyage. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
This is one means of transport. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
Something that has always intrigued me, though, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
is a completely different means of transport. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
The British R101, which were a vision of travel for the future. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
Comfortable, quiet, elegant. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
But, of course, we know that this great dream of the future | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
came to nothing, because of a series of disasters. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
And the R101, of course, had, famously, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
that great disaster on its maiden voyage. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
But I know you have a very particular connection to it. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Yes, my grandfather was the first officer on the R101, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
Lieutenant Commander Noel Grabowsky-Atherstone, known as Grabby. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:21 | |
What was his particular role? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
Well, as first officer, he kept a detailed diary, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
he was meticulous in observing the performance of the airship. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
And noted everything down. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
So, he was a key figure. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-Yes. -And therefore this journal is dynamite. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
-TRAIN WHISTLE BLOWS -It's the story of the development of the R101. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
-Yes. -Oh. We're off again. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
And this sense of luxury, do you know what it was like? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Well, it's been described as an ocean liner in the sky, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
a sort of flying Titanic. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
She was 777 feet long, twice the length of a football pitch. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
And she was vast. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
And she had two decks. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
-Yes. -50 cabins. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
It was an extraordinary luxury of a scale that we can't imagine, really. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-Exactly. Yeah. -So in October 1930, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
the R101 sets off for India. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-So what happens? -Well, she ran into stormy and very windy weather. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
In fact, my grandfather had been on watch until 2am. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
Nine minutes later, she crashed. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
The reason for the fire was calcium flares. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
And they ignite against water. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Otherwise, she could perhaps have been salvaged. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
So we've got some footage here, which I gather you found. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Yes, I found it in a rusty old biscuit tin hidden in a trunk. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
Well, let's see what it tells us. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Look, there it is. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
I think what we see first of all is how big she was. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
People look like ants on the ground. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
I mean, she was vast, enormous. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
So this is a sort of brief story of the ship, isn't it? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
-Yes, it is. -Because there is the crash. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
And what might have been the most wonderful vision of the future | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
died away in the fields of northern France. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
It certainly did - very sad, very sudden. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
-Particularly for you. -Yes. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
What was the impact on your family? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
My gran, I don't really know how she coped, and there was a state funeral. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:18 | |
She always said to me that she knew the minute the airship had crashed | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
because my father had a devoted dog called Timmy | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and at 2.09am he let out an unearthly howl. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
How, why, we don't know, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
but she knew then something terrible had happened. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
So, of course, the diary stops at a crucial point. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
And it's very interesting, I'll read the last entry. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
"Everybody is rather keyed up now, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
"as we all feel that the future of airships | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
"very largely depends on what sort of show we put up. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
"There are very many unknown factors | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
"and I feel that that thing called luck | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
"will figure rather conspicuously in our flight. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
"Let's hope for good luck and do our best!" | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
Curious that he left it behind. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
And did he leave this behind, then, for his evidence? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
It's quite possible, because every single thing is documented. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
It never made it to the public inquiry, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
but it really changes the whole story of the R101. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
This is a very valuable document. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
That family story and the information contained in this | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
gives it huge value. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Essentially, we are looking at something that to an airship collector, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
they would pay thousands of pounds to own this. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
But I think the preservation of this information for the future | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
is crucial, and actually goes beyond a family. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
You know, this is information of national significance. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Well, we'll perhaps have to look at getting it published, then. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-Good idea. -Thank you. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
You can't look at the golden age of flight | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
without including that iconic jet Concorde. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
When Antiques Roadshow viewer Richard | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
wrote to us about his vast collection of memorabilia at home | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
in Gloucestershire, we had to see for ourselves. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
From toys to ties, from scale models to seats, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
from trolleys to teacups, it takes up the whole of his conservatory. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
We invited him on board to tell his story to John Foster. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
I can see you're a bit of a sort of collecting Concorde nut. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
What's going on? | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
Well, it's been part of our lives for nearly 50 years. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
-1969, my wife and I were nearly killed in a car crash. -Really? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
We were in Gloucester Hospital for a long time. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And we were married in hospital. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
And the night before we were married, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
we were sitting outside Ward Eight, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Concorde 001 and 002 circled the hospital, | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
and things after an accident like that, you're pretty rough, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
and Lesley had been very badly hurt, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
and it was a bit of a sign. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
It was something that was very special. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
It's always been a little bit of our emblem for the rest of our... | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
Well, we've been married 47 years in a fortnight's time. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And still going strong. And Concorde is just something very special. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
It touches the heart, I think, of everybody that flies in it and knows it. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
And when you say... So, 1969, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
it hadn't actually had a commercial flight then. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Not at all. They were purely in trials at that time. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:24 | |
That really WAS a sign, because it wasn't until '76, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
I think, was the first commercial flight. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
-Absolutely. -And you've obviously been on it a few times. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
I flew around the bay in 1987 and Lesley and I flew to America | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
on the 29th of September 2003, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
just three weeks before she finally finished commercial flying. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
People would say, what was it like to fly? | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
It was like nothing else in this world. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
It was narrower than this train, you were cramped, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
but you had wonderful service. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Amazing drinks, food and everything else. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
You were on the edge of space, 60,000 feet up, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
travelling as fast as a bullet from a gun. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
You can't do it now. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
All that life experience that you had, it started this... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
you could say an obsession, is that fair to say? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Yes, it is an obsession, to be perfectly honest, yes. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Is your wife as obsessed as you? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
No, she puts up with it. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I see where you're coming from. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
When I went on it, you got... my souvenir was a silver photograph frame. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
And you've got some amazing things. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Basically, everything you would see in front of you | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
when you sat on the plane. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
You've got all the chocolates, the knives and forks, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Royal Doulton, Conran. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
They went to town on what they provided. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
-Definitely. -There are some things which are most sought after. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-The Machmeter. -Yeah. -The nose cone. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
The pilot's seat. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
And it goes down. Where a food container like you've got here comes in at £200, £300, £400. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
Whether these, £30, £40, £50, sort of per bit. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
-Because people still love Concorde. -Oh, yes. -Thank you. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
Thank you very much indeed. Cheers. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
'I'm delighted to say, joining us on board the Flying Scotsman is a former Concorde pilot.' | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
Well, we're on an icon of the golden age of steam, but you were, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
Captain Walpole, one of the first pilots of Concorde. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
-Indeed. -With British Airways. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Indeed, I was. Yes. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
It must have been an extraordinary time | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
to be at the forefront of supersonic travel. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
It was fantastic, it really was. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
It took civil aviation from a pedestrian 600 miles an hour | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
to 1,350 miles an hour, twice the speed of sound, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
in one single giant stride. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
21st of Jan 1976. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
There are some extraordinary statistics associated with Concorde. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
I mean, not least that you yourself have flown four million miles. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Yeah, four million miles, 200 times round the Earth effectively, yes. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Yes. 804 crossings of the North Atlantic. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
What was it like to fly at that speed? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
Flying Concorde was exciting, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
because you were flying up at 60,000 feet. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
You could control the aircraft with the fingertips of one hand. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:07 | |
You could see the curvature of the Earth, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
the darker blue of outer space, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
you had a horizon of 250,000 square miles. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
It was demanding, however. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
Beautiful, beautiful Concorde, as she looks so beautiful in the sky, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
was a highly complex aeroplane. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
There's something rather surreal talking about it with all the steam going past, you know, the contrast. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
Between what we're talking and what we're on. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
-You barrel-rolled Concorde? -Yes, I did indeed. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Tell me about that. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:36 | |
Well, we had to carry out some tests | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
on a modification to the Concorde undercarriage, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
so I flew with a man called Jean Franchi, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
one of the first test pilots on Concorde French 1. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
He said, Brian, how about doing a barrel roll in the Concorde? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
And I said, "Good grief, Jean, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
"are you serious?" We climbed 15,000 feet, 300 knots, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
and he just barrel-rolled it beautifully over and round | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and straight and level again. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
He said, "Brian, I've wound it up, you can unwind it for me." | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
So I did exactly the same thing the other way round, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
barrel-rolled Concorde. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
When I got back to London and told people, they were aghast. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
Because, firstly, they didn't know it could be done. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Secondly, there were no passengers on board, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
so it was perfectly safe and adequate. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Would you say that was the golden era of travel for you? | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
-Concorde? -Very much so. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
Not for me but for aviation, the world. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
And... | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
It was so different, it became an icon in its own right. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
It's been a pleasure to talk to you about it. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
-Thank you very much, Captain Walpole. -My pleasure. Thank you. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
The Antiques Roadshow archive contains many tales from bygone eras of air travel. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
At our show in Farnborough, a former aeronautical research centre, | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
expert Graham Lay discovered how the story of flight in Britain | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
began in the early 20th century. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Well, looking down at us today | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
is one of the pioneers of British aviation, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Samuel Cody. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
So, you're direct descendants of this great man? | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
-That's right. -Tell us about him, because he was a bit of a showman, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
-wasn't he? -He was a cowboy showman that came over from America | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
and he was an American citizen when he actually flew British Army Aeroplane No 1. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
He designed, built it, with his own money, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
£50 was given from the War Office. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
And he achieved the first flight in this country. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
He did hops and leaps in April and May of 1908, and then | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
officially recorded on the 16th of October 1908 | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
for the first powered flight in Great Britain. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
And you've brought along today this wonderful | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
silver model of an aircraft. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
This was commissioned by the Shell Oil Company | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
and it was presented to Cody at the Royal Aero Club in 1912. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
It's one of his late aeroplanes, | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
and probably the plane that killed him in the end. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
They gave him a full military funeral from his house in Ash Vale, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:05 | |
and 50,000 people lined the funeral procession. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
50,000? That's how important he was. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
He was a very important person. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
Well, now, let's think about value. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
That, I think, would be worth today... | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
..20,000-£30,000. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
How do you feel about the fact | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
that your great-grandfather was a pioneer of aviation? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
-It gives us a lot of pride. -Gives us a big buzz. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
Here at Farnborough, they used wind tunnels | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
to test the aerodynamics of planes, including Concorde. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
And as a former long-haul pilot, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
our expert Richard Price was intrigued to meet a collector | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
with rare design prototypes of the supersonic jet. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
The good thing about Concorde was when it started, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
only 46 years after Cody's first flight, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
there was a completely new idea of supersonic transport | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
and they had to have a wing that was very efficient at high speed | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
but was also very handleable at low speed for landing, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
so the scientists and aerodynamicists looked | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
at a large number of wings, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
from a triangle to a Gothic shape to an ogee. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
I know research and development | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
is astronomical and we know that the Concorde took a lot of time | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
to actually achieve its maiden flight, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
but to see all of this right through from the first thoughts... | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
-That's right. -Magnificent. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
We think there were about 100 made over the years, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and all different wing shapes. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
What sort of age are we talking about, early '60s for something like that? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
Yes. These were just in the early '60s. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:30 | |
It's a wonderful English and French engineering effort, fantastic. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Nothing has been bettered yet. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
-No, what a shame it's no longer with us. -Absolutely. Yes. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
How on earth can you put a value on these things? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
Terribly rare, wonderful things. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
I can't begin to value them. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
You just can't put a value on. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
Finally, in our look at air-travel stories from the archives, | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
we found this madcap invention | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
that looks straight out of a Boy's Own story. | 0:30:57 | 0:30:59 | |
In fact, it was a real design from the 1920s | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
for a fast rail service powered by a propeller. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
As a dedicated railway enthusiast, of course, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
I've come across references to the George Bennie railplane. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
What he was proposing was a system of railway transport | 0:31:14 | 0:31:19 | |
whereby passengers travel in a sort of dynamic streamlined car | 0:31:19 | 0:31:24 | |
-suspended from an overhead track. -Correct. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
It was a cross between an aeroplane and a train. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
Yes, it could be powered either by an internal combustion engine | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
or by electric motors. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Yes. We're talking 1929, I think. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
That's when the test track was built. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
There's the interior, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
which looks like a deluxe passenger car of any transport system. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
There were obviously different interior designs - | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
there would be a more utilitarian design, but that, being a test car, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
was kitted out in Pullman style to create a maximum effect. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
This was really the peak of exploring new ideas. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
So he's offering us, or offering the world, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
-high-speed travel in 1929. -He was. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-What happened? -Unfortunately it hit the Depression. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
Money wasn't available, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
he failed to get backers and could not get it built. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Had he succeeded, it could have been the answer to the future. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
We could have now had wonderful high-speed elevated railways | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
over all the mainline tracks. How the world would have been different. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
The country would have looked very different. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
We'd have been travelling at 200 or 300 miles an hour | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
as a matter of course. These are obviously very collectable. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
-We're looking at £5,000 per document. -I'm not interested in... | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
-But that's neither here nor there. -It's family history. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:39 | |
-The most important thing is how it would have changed our lives. -Exactly. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
Back on our journey with the Flying Scotsman, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
we've pulled into Carlisle station, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
just in time to meet Roadshow guests | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
whose large collections make perfect platform displays. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Mark is perhaps one of the most enthusiastic collectors | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
Hilary Kay has ever met. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
He's amassed so many early airline uniforms, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
he's left 125 of them at home. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
I'm surrounded by what I can only describe as style in the aisle. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
It's a fabulous collection | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
of air-stewardess costumes, accessories, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
and here is a great advertisement from the time, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:25 | |
showing a TWA stewardess wearing exactly what Georgia's wearing. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
So, tell me, why have you got four or five uniforms? | 0:33:30 | 0:33:36 | |
I've always had an interest in aviation and that sort of developed | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
into an interest in early commercial aviation and in particular TWA, | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
which was really a very pioneering airline in the very early days, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:51 | |
with a slogan which was "run by flyers, not by businessmen". | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
So how many of these have you got at home? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
The last count, 133 uniforms from various airlines. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
Obviously you're passionate about this. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
-Really passionate. -I'm passionate about the early commercial aviation, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
so I collect anything I can find. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
Even the images. The advertisements, the photographs. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
And this, I think, sort of epitomises that early artwork. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
This is, what, from 1949? | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
And you can see it was absolutely the golden age of commercial travel. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
It was an adventure and a journey and a holiday almost on its own, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
-wasn't it? -That's right - the flying bit was the adventure. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
Yeah. This I love. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
This is Basic Travel Wardrobes, a TWA travel advisor, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:41 | |
and in it, it says, "Make the most of every thrilling travel moment," | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
which, of course, involves, "How to pack a man's suitcase." | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
-Exactly. -What every woman should know. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
When I was growing up, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:54 | |
it was about the most glamorous thing you could imagine doing. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
Hence these uniforms. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
It was the ultimate aim in life. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
But what we're looking at is not just style in the aisle, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
it's about the commercialisation of air travel, and it's popular, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
-isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
-Getting more popular. -Which brings me onto the next point. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
I'm going to ask you what's the most expensive one that you have here. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
The most expensive here has got to be the 1944 cutout uniform. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:26 | |
To find one complete is pretty rare and probably about £1,000. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:32 | |
This is your daughter, Georgia, I should say. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
And, Georgia, you do look fantastic in it. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Does Georgia share your passion? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
She shares a passion for fashion. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
-Well... -She puts up with modelling for me. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
Very good. Yes, I mean, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
£1,000 is absolutely what I've been seeing them go for. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
And, of course if you're speaking about designer ones, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
Mary Quant or the Pucci designs for Braniff or whatever, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
then you're up in that price range. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Because it's a passion shared by so many. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
And which absolutely epitomises the golden age of travel in the '50s | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
and '60s. Thanks very much. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
Thank you. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
You might ask, why is viewer Graham showing Paul Ashbury an iron bar | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
with a number on it? It doesn't look much, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
but could it be the rarest find of the day? | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
This is the original smokebox numberplate. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
-The one you can see up there is a copy. -It is indeed. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
This is the real thing. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:29 | |
-It is the real thing. -It's like holding the relic of a true saint. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
Yes, I would agree with you. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
So, how have you got it? | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
I got it in an auction | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
about 20 years ago now. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
And the auction that I got it from, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
the previous owner put it into that auction | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
and he got it from the original owner. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
Right, there's no doubt it's come off that locomotive? | 0:36:53 | 0:36:58 | |
Its provenance is complete. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
100% guaranteed? | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
100% guaranteed. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
This dates from the beginning of the British Railways era | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
in the late 1940s when all the locomotives they took over | 0:37:08 | 0:37:12 | |
had a new numbering system. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
-Correct. -And 4472, as she was, became 60103. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
-Correct. -And the plate went on the front. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
-It was. -And at some point it came off again. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
It did. When it was withdrawn from British Railways in 1963. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:30 | |
-You're a very lucky man. -I'm very proud to have it. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
To me, it's off the most special locomotive | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
and the most famous locomotive in the world. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
And there can't be many people who can say, "I've got a bit of that." | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
I've got a bit of Flying Scotsman. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
And a very important bit. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
-And a very important bit. -What do you think it's worth? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
I mean, I can put a value on it. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
A smokebox numberplate from a famous locomotive | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
-is going to be £2,000, £3,000, £4,000. -Correct. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
-But this is the Flying Scotsman. -This is the Flying Scotsman. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
Probably between £10,000 and £25,000. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
I think that would be a safe bet. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
So we're holding a piece of scrap iron which could be worth £20,000. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
-I think so. -You're a very lucky man. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
Perhaps I should just get up and put it back? | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
-No. -I'll give it to you. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-Thank you. -Don't drop it. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
No, I won't. Thank you. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
What better place to display travel posters | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
than the busy platform at Carlisle station? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
John Foster is looking at just a fraction | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
of Colin's collection of popular masterpieces. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
Do you know, nothing sums up a period in our travel history | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
like a railway poster from the '20s and '30s. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
-What do they mean to you? -It's just the colour, the image, the style. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
The value is not so important | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
as the pleasure one gets from looking at them. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
The people that painted these in commission, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
they were trying to draw you into a lifestyle of wealth and excitement, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
of exotic travel. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
-What started you going? -Rail bridge. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Iconic structure, known all around the world. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
And just the colours just caught my attention. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
It's interesting you say that, because the way we placed these, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
I've deliberately placed this one in the middle, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
because that is by far my favourite. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
One, I love the Forth Bridge, two, it's done by Frank Mason. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
As a Scottish colourist, the fact he's done it in blue | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
with the blue water, so stylistically brilliant. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
It could have been designed in the last ten, 20 years, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
not from the '20s and '30s. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
Now, he was known mostly for doing buildings, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
which is why he's so successful at transferring that to rail. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Ronald Gray, another great artist. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
But sort of a more typical scene. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
This one behind me, again, a lovely scene of Edinburgh, but not quite... | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
certainly not as architecturally brilliant as this one. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
But all the same, just unbelievably pleasing. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
So, where would you buy them? | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
This one, the Ready For The 12th, and the Princes Street of Edinburgh, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
I bought these at auction in New York. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
The Forth Bridge came from a Dundee auction house and there was a series | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
of posters which had been found in a gentleman's attic and his family | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
didn't even know he had them. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
So, when it comes to valuing these things, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
I suppose, this one behind me of Edinburgh, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
I would say sort of £1,000 to £1,500, that sort of money. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
The Ready For The 12th, it's a great image. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
It's big, so I would put that one at sort of £4,000 to £6,000. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:36 | |
And...do you mind me asking what you paid for this one? | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I paid £1,100 for that. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
That's the one I would love, and I think that's close to £2,000. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
And it's just great to see, so thank you. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
It's full steam ahead with the Flying Scotsman | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
in this Antiques Roadshow special. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
We're racing along in our own exclusive carriage | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
with invited guests who've brought along mementos | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
relating to different eras from the golden age of travel. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
Hilary Kay is about to talk luxury liners with Ken, who spent | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
five decades working on board ships like the QE2 and Queen Mary. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
Sounds glamorous? He tells us it was anything but. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I'm looking at a seaman's record book, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
and good-looking chap in here, can't think who he is. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
And postcards from New York, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
some badges from the Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
and this really relates in the golden age of travel to a time | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
when ships were going backwards and forwards from the UK to America | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
almost like a bus running on a timetable. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
And what's your relationship with all this? | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
After leaving the Merchant Navy sea school, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
after 16 weeks training on deck, we joined the Queen Elizabeth. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
When we were lined up to be given our berths, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
we were asked then that they needed volunteers. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
We were always told never to volunteer. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
We asked what it was. Firemen. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
Well, we all thought a fireman was a fireman like with a hose. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Did we get a shock when we ended up in the engine room! | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
Going down in the engine room in them days was unbelievable, | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
with 12 boilers. The terminology was different, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
it wasn't what we were trained for, but as they were short, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
everyone had to muck in. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:34 | |
I can't imagine what it was like, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
but it must have been incredibly noisy, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
incredibly hot. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-Was it all of that? -Yes, the heat, noise, was really unreal. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
You do four hours down there and the sweat...you sweat like mad, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
it runs out of you. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
Each time you went up for a break you had to take salt tablets. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
We were taking eight salt tablets | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
-every four hours while we were down there. -Unbelievable. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
And when you came out, the sweat through your gear would turn white. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
-It was just caked on? -Caked on, like, yeah. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
At this point, I've got something you might find interesting. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 | |
Does this take you back? | 0:43:10 | 0:43:11 | |
Yes, that would be the... Queen Mary, is it? | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
That's the Mary. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:16 | |
Now, she's going at a heck of a lick. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
How fast would she be going? | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
She'd be going at 27 knots. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
You and your fellow firemen were responsible for that. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
That's a great shot, I can remember that coming in, like. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:32 | |
Amazing. Did you get to meet the passengers at all? | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
We never got to meet passengers. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
We weren't allowed to meet the passengers unless they spoke to us. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
If they spoke to us, that was OK. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
But we weren't allowed to speak to them, they called it broaching cargo. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
Say that again. "Broaching cargo"? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Yep. It's the same as going into a hatch and taking something out, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
was talking to a passenger, unless they spoke to you. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
-What was the penalty? -It could be a day's pay, like. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
-Logged. -My goodness. | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
-Yeah. -Looking through here, I can see you started out as a DHU, | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
-a sort of general deckhand. -That's right. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
But then you progressed on and you became an EDH, | 0:44:06 | 0:44:10 | |
-what was that? -That's efficient deckhand, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
or known as... Senior rates used to call us electrical deckhands. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
You get a shock if you see them work. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
That's funny! So how long was your career? | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
-50 years. -And when did you retire? | 0:44:22 | 0:44:24 | |
I finished last July. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:25 | |
Look, it's been very interesting to have, if you like, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:29 | |
a different view of the golden age of travel. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:33 | |
I mean, obviously the seaman's record book is yours, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
that's not going to have any commercial value, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
but actually these badges, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:40 | |
particularly those from the QM and the QE, | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
they are sought-after by collectors. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
I'm not going to put a fortune on them. | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
I would have said perhaps the three together, perhaps £150. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
But they do have a market, because everybody wants to feel | 0:44:52 | 0:44:55 | |
that they've got something from those wonderful cruising days. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:58 | |
Yes, that's exactly right. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:00 | |
-They're a great piece of memorabilia for you. -Definitely. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
-Thanks very much indeed. -Smashing. Nice talking to you. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Our next story is the poignant tale of the Lusitania - | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
a remarkable British liner that held the Blue Riband | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
for the fastest transatlantic crossing in 1907. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
She was the world's largest passenger liner, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
making 202 journeys to the US, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
before tragedy struck during World War I | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
when she was sunk by a German submarine in 1915. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
John Foster meets Aidan, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:33 | |
who's brought a rare relic from the Lusitania. | 0:45:33 | 0:45:36 | |
Whenever I see something that's obviously been | 0:45:37 | 0:45:40 | |
at the bottom of the sea for a while, I get really excited. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
I spent a lot of time in Florida as a kid diving on ships like this. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:49 | |
Tell me about your connection with it. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
I've always had a lifelong fascination | 0:45:51 | 0:45:53 | |
with ocean liners, really from a young child. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
I think one Sunday afternoon, watching a Titanic movie, | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
and I got the bug ever since then. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:01 | |
I was in Southampton | 0:46:01 | 0:46:02 | |
and this happened to be in an antique-shop window. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
And I just looked and thought, "I've got to have that." | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
Now, when you say in an antique-shop window, what was it being sold as? | 0:46:08 | 0:46:12 | |
It was sold as a porthole from RMS Lusitania. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:15 | |
And it came from the mailroom. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
So specifically located on the port side of the ship. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
And it was recovered back in 1982. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
OK, that's all interesting, because 1982 was when | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
they started removing bits from the Lusitania. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
-Sure. -Just explain to me what it makes you feel | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
when you have this in front of you? | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
I'm just amazed. I'm amazed. It's a living part of history, | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
something so reminiscent | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
of the grand era of luxury and liner travel. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
When you think of the Lusitania, it has got a fascinating history. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
Started off as a Blue Riband, er... | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
transatlantic speed machine, and the German press had warned America | 0:46:48 | 0:46:53 | |
that if they sailed on the Lusitania, it would be a target. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
-Absolutely. -No-one believed it, cos they didn't want to drag the US into the war. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
-Sure. -They didn't think that would be a sensible thing to do. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
When it got to UK waters in 1915, it was torpedoed and sunk, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
and a huge loss of American life. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
Yeah, a lot of children, innocent children, were on board as well. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
Babes in arms, so, yeah, a tragedy that affected everybody. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
I look at the porthole and I just think, "I wonder who | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
-"the last person was to actually look through that on the day." -Yes. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:22 | |
And actually, you can still... | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
I mean, that is great. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
And I found a bit of archive footage which actually, I think, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:31 | |
makes the whole thing come to life. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
-Oh, wow. -It really brings home the sort of sadness, like you say, | 0:47:35 | 0:47:39 | |
the people that were killed on board - women, children. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
Yeah, it really...it's living, isn't it? | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
It's a beautiful ship. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:48 | |
It was a floating palace. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
-What a way to travel. -Pure luxury. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
That's when you could argue that the journey was the destination. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
-Yes. -Whereas a lot of people now, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
we're just desperate to get from one place to another, | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
then it was about the whole thing of enjoying that process. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
Yes, very much so. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:07 | |
And so, presumably you don't have this bolted to the wall or anything? | 0:48:07 | 0:48:11 | |
I think the wall would give way. It's pretty hefty. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
No, it just sits in my dining room. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
It's a conversation piece. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:18 | |
It definitely could not be wall-mounted. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
OK, so, you bought it in an antique shop. | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
-How many years ago? -Probably about eight, nine years ago now. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
OK. I think at auction, easily... | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
..£400, £500, maybe £600, something along those lines. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
Yep, sure. No, I'm pleased with that. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:35 | |
As for me, it's just the wow factor. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:37 | |
-Me too. -Thank you. -I'm pleased. | 0:48:37 | 0:48:39 | |
We've featured a few classic tales of maritime history | 0:48:42 | 0:48:45 | |
on previous Roadshows. Here are some of our favourites. | 0:48:45 | 0:48:47 | |
At Haltwhistle in Northumberland, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:55 | |
Paul was treated to a very rare sight. | 0:48:55 | 0:48:57 | |
The interior fittings of a White Star liner | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
that had been stripped out to refurbish office interiors. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
Now, of course, everybody knows the story of the Titanic. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
They can't not know it. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:08 | |
The Olympic, a much more successful ship commercially, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
is still perhaps not so well known. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
They were sisters, weren't they? | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
Yes, there were three sisters. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
The Olympic, then the Titanic... | 0:49:18 | 0:49:19 | |
-And then the Britannic. -Then the Britannic, yes. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:21 | |
So, what have we got? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Well, this, first off, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
is a smoke vent from the second-class smoke room. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:28 | |
Now, this is exactly the same as the Titanic one, isn't it? | 0:49:28 | 0:49:31 | |
All the fittings for the ships, the three ships, | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
were bought at the same time so could have went into either ship. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
Light fittings. They're fantastic, aren't they? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
You've got to imagine it the other way up, | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
hanging in some grand saloon, twinkling through the cut glass. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
How many of these have you got? | 0:49:45 | 0:49:47 | |
-There's 28 of those. -28 of those. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:49 | |
Right, so, these show your offices, in effect, do they? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
This is the conference room, yes. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:54 | |
So, you've got here a wonderful image | 0:49:54 | 0:49:56 | |
of a sort of wooden surround, carved surround. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:00 | |
Yes, that was first class. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:01 | |
That was what was in your first-class suites. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
All these panels, the doors, the architrave, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
all of this is out of the ship. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
So they bought, in a sense, a complete room? | 0:50:08 | 0:50:10 | |
-Yes. -Does that show the lights? | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
Those are the lights and this is all wood panelling | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
and that's out of the second-class smoking area. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
So, you bought up an old factory | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
which happened to be fitted out with the Olympic. Can I ask how much? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
Yes, they valued the total fittings at £40,000. | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
You've got 28 of those? | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
A light guaranteed off the Olympic | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
-I would think is going to be £300, £400. -Oh, really? | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
So, multiply that by 28. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:38 | |
You're getting on towards your money back. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
It took a trip halfway round the world to Melbourne, Australia, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
for Hilary Kay to come face-to-face with a Titanic teddy bear... | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
..one of the most moving pieces we've seen at the Roadshow. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:55 | |
Picture yourself in 1912. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
There's been this terrible disaster, the Titanic has sunk, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:05 | |
hit by an iceberg, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
and the Steiff factory produced a whole series of bears in black, | 0:51:07 | 0:51:14 | |
mourning bears, they said, to mourn the loss of life on the Titanic. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:18 | |
And this is what you're holding. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:20 | |
There's one particular aspect of this bear | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
which I think is very sweet, very touching, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
and that's that around these lovely black eyes here | 0:51:27 | 0:51:32 | |
we have red, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
a red background which shows the eye up very clearly, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
but also it's what your eyes do when they cry. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
-You know, this bear has got red eyes from crying. -I wondered about that. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
I have to say that a Titanic bear just like this, five years ago, | 0:51:46 | 0:51:52 | |
at auction, fetched just over 200,000. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
200,000? | 0:51:57 | 0:51:59 | |
Which is about £90,000. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
He is a bear that is so rare that we've never seen a Titanic bear | 0:52:02 | 0:52:06 | |
on all the British Antiques Roadshows. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
-Really? -And to find him down here in Melbourne... | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
..well, it's a real eye-opener, and thanks so much for bringing him. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:16 | |
Thank you. Thank you. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
An eye-watering valuation from Australia | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
brings our archive selection to a close. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
We're racing through the Yorkshire countryside, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
approaching the end of our journey. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:30 | |
Just time for one last story. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
Paul Atterbury began the day | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
with the Flying Scotsman's nonstop record run from London to Edinburgh. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:39 | |
He's now with a family whose mementos record | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
every detail of train driver Walt Parkinson's life... | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
..including the end of the age of steam. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:51 | |
I suppose I'm a very typical grown-up small boy. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
I like trains, I wanted to be an engine driver, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
and I can see here...somebody was. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
You know, this is the story in diaries and documents | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
and pieces of equipment of a driver, a driver's life. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
Now, is that your family? | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
Yes, it was my grandad. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
He started after he left the Army in the early '50s. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
He worked his way up to become a fireman then an engineman | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
on steam and then through to diesel. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
And as a result, it's a very interesting record. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
It's a full catalogue of everything he did for about 40, 50 years. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:29 | |
In the diaries, there's a couple of things that I quite like. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
And it says here, 11th of April 1967, he drove 90233, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:40 | |
that's a steam locomotive. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:42 | |
And looking through the diaries, that's the end, isn't it? | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
-Yes, that's the last one. -Yeah, that's the last one. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:47 | |
So, suddenly, that world is gone. | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
And he's then sick for a while and when he comes back from being sick, | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
-it says straightaway into... -Diesel training. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
.."Started work diesel training York." | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
-So, the world has changed. -Yeah. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
I think it was a very interesting period, because... | 0:54:02 | 0:54:04 | |
..you know, for us as enthusiasts, everybody likes steam trains, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:09 | |
but the British Rail Modernisation Plan, which was launched in 1955, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
was dedicated to removing steam out of the British network. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
We had to be modern, we had to be diesel, we had to be electric, | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
we had to build an up-to-date network. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:23 | |
I've got some footage here which actually is about that moment | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
when diesels were new and exciting and modern. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
Let's have a look. This is a new one being launched. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
It's pulling out of Paddington. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
And...the view from the cab. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
There's the past going past, very literally. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
And look how comfortable that is. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
He must have sat there and thought, "This is great." | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
And, of course, his life was radically improved. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
I mean, there he was in a locomotive cab. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
We're very romantic about it but actually it was a filthy, hard, | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
demanding job and, suddenly, you're sitting in comfort | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
in a diesel locomotive, operating controls. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
It must have been wonderful for people making the transition. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
What was it like in the family? | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
What changed? | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
Mainly smell. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:11 | |
-Smell? -Yeah, because he smelt different when he went on diesels | 0:55:11 | 0:55:17 | |
to what he did when he were on steam trains. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
One of the mythologies of being a railway enthusiast | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
-is this thing about cooking food in the cab. -Yeah. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
Did you have that experience? | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
Yes, when I were little, | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
my grandad took me to work quite a few times and... | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
..in the diesel trains, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
they had an electric hob and he used to do toast on the electric hob | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
and then put a tin of beans on top - you could have beans on toast. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
-In the cab? -In the cab. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:44 | |
But if you go back to steam, you cooked on the shovel, didn't you? | 0:55:44 | 0:55:48 | |
-Yeah. -And did you do that? | 0:55:48 | 0:55:49 | |
Yeah, me dad took me to work, we did that. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
What do you think was the high point of his life? | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
-The Royal train. -Probably when he drove the Royal train. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:58 | |
-Tell me about that. -When he came to see me at home, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
he were so giddy when he came in. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
-And he gave... -He gave him the hat. -He gave me the hat he were given. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
That were his new hat for the Royal train. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
-So this is the Royal-train hat? -Yes. -Yeah. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
-Fantastic. -It were towards the end of his career, so about 1986, '87, | 0:56:10 | 0:56:15 | |
and he always told us that he got picked | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
because he were a goods-train driver | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
and used to driving chemicals and nuclear fuel | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
and things like that. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
They chose the goods-train drivers to drive the Royal train | 0:56:26 | 0:56:30 | |
cos they'd got a special cargo. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
And because they were careful? | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
And they were careful, yeah. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
So when he gave me that hat, that were the proudest moment. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
Right, what's it all worth? | 0:56:40 | 0:56:43 | |
Well, we're looking at a collection | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
probably worth a couple of hundred pounds. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
But the memories it releases, to me, are absolutely beyond price. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, wonderful. -Priceless. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
That story tells of the end of the age of steam, | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
so we're very thankful that after ten years of restoration, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
the Flying Scotsman has given us a unique opportunity | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
to relive that golden age. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:10 | |
Our guests and experts have loved it. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
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And I'll never forget my moment on the footplate | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
of this world-famous locomotive. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:23 | |
Thanks to our visitors for bringing along their precious mementos. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
Soon, we'll be arriving in York | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
and the Flying Scotsman will get a well-deserved rest. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
From the whole team here on board, goodbye. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 |