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Our venue today has had a varied past. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
There was an Abbey here in the 12th century, | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
and then by the early 1600s, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
it had been transformed into one of the finest Jacobean houses | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
in the land. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
But then, as successive generations ran out of money, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
it was gradually made three times smaller. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
But, still, today it is magnificent. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
Classically elegant on the outside, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
and a hotchpotch of styles on the inside. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow from Audley End, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
near Saffron Walden in Essex. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
As country houses up and down the land were updated over the years, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
particular rooms with particular functions were lost forever. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
But here at Audley End, there's a very rare survivor. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
It's a great big coal store up on the top floor, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
quite possibly unique for a stately abode like this. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
It was used by staff to provide coal for the fireplaces in the bedrooms, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
which were mostly on this floor, | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
and to provide heat for their hip baths and foot baths. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
And the coal was brought up by the bucket-load through the window. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Now, that's some kind of carbon footprint. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Some of the staff started work at four in the morning | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
to get the fires going. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
They were long, hard days. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
The Neville family, who owned Audley End, had up to 30 staff. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Here in the kitchen, the cook, Avis Croakham, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
along with the kitchen maids, would prepare the meal. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
The scullery maids washed the vegetables and plucked the birds, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
the dairy maids had the task of churning the butter. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
The laundry maids would clean and iron the clothes. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And they would do this for hours. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
Phew! | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
In the 1760s and '70s, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
the ground staff were kept hard at work by famed landscaper | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Capability Brown, as they reshaped the Audley estate | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
according to his plans. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
But he was never allowed to finish the job, because, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
according to the marvellously-named Sir John Griffin Griffin, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
who commissioned Capability Brown, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
the bend in the river went the wrong way. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
The dispute over money went on for years, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
and the bend in the river... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
stayed the same. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
English Heritage now own and care for | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
this well-shaped landscape and house. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
They've kindly invited the Antiques Roadshow onto their lawns, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
where we find our specialists hard at work. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
When you first saw this elephant here, what did you think? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
I've always loved this elephant. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
When I was a very small girl, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
we would go and have lunch with my great-grandparents, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and if we behaved very well at lunch, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
then we were allowed to go upstairs and see the elephant. Yes. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
And it was given to my great-great-grandfather | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
as a child, as a Christmas present full of chocolates. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Ah! Well, let's have a look at him. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Because, he's enormous. I thought, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
"Goodness, how did you bring that in? He must be so heavy!" | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
But he's not. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
He's papier-mache. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
And he has... | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
It's not elephant skin, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
but it's, you know, it's calf suede. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
And you couldn't sit on him as a child. Well, I hope you didn't! | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
No, we were never allowed to sit on him. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
The good news is that his tusks are not ivory... No. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
..they're porcelain. You mentioned the chocolates, so... | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
a hell of a lot of chocolates can go in there. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Well, it's actually quite a small, little... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It's just a small part of it. Yes. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I think he's somewhere around 1890. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I don't think he's as early as maybe your great-great-grandfather, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
but he's just heaven, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
and I would imagine he was made in Germany and exported, because... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:46 | |
he has a voice. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Shall I pull it? Yes, you can pull it. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
HIGH-PITCHED GROANING | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
That does sound like an elephant! | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
That's interesting you see because when we were allowed to pull it, | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
we were told to be very careful, so it sounds like this... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
It sounds like a sheep! | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
It sounds like a sheep. DEEP GROANING | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
You're the first person who's pulled it strongly | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
and then, I agree, it sounds like an elephant. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
Can I do it again? Yes, you can do it again! Thank you. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
HIGH-PITCHED GROANING | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
He is wonderful. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
Unfortunately, my great-grandparents' family | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
lent it to some other children, another family, for a few years... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Oh, no. ..and they broke its trunk, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
cos its trunk used to come up at the same time when you pulled the... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Oh, I see, that would've been so realistic! So exciting. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
Oh, I'm sure that can be rectified. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
I'm sure of it. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
But he's very old and he's very wise, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
and he's still screaming, which is amazing, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
cos usually they lose their voice. Yeah. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
In that condition, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
I think we've got to be talking about around ?1,500 to ?2,000. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:56 | |
Well, we'd never sell him. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
At least now we know he doesn't sound like a sheep! | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
HIGH-PITCHED GROANING | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
GENTLE LAUGHTER | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
You can't get more eccentrically British | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
than what's known as a Fair Hebe Jug. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
There's so much going on, isn't there? | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
There is. You've got, on one side there's the young lad, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
and he's happily having, enjoying a drink, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
inscribed there, "a bumper, a bumper." | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
That's a happy toast, he's merrily getting drunk. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
And then on the back we've got his lass and his love, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
though she seems more interested in somebody else. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
And there's her name, Fair Hebe. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Do you know the story, or anything about the history? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
I don't know anything about Fair Hebe, no. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
It comes from a song that was popular back in the 1700s, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
and I think it was something that you would drink in pubs and taverns | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
to the tale of the rivalry between the different characters, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
but mainly it's about getting drunk and enjoying the drink | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
that came out of the jug. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Is there... Have you found a signature on it? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
I did, I took it down off the shelf yesterday, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
and I thought I'd better clean it a bit cos it was dusty, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
and it says... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
"I Voyez." | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Yes, "Voyez", | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
and it's actually dated 1788. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
I didn't even see the date. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
1788? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Hard to see, but that takes it back a nice long time, doesn't it? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
That's Jean Voyez. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
Josiah Wedgwood discovered him in London | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
and brought him to Staffordshire | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
to make models for the Wedgwood factory. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
But Voyez repaid Wedgwood's friendship | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
in a rather disastrous way - | 0:07:38 | 0:07:39 | |
he stole moulds and clay from Wedgwood | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
and ended up sentenced to seven years in prison. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
And it was probably in prison when he modelled this jug! | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
So it makes it even more interesting. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
We don't see Voyez's name on many of his pieces. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Mostly, he signed them with Wedgwood's name | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and tried to pass them off. He was a faker, really. Really? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
So Jean Voyez's masterpiece, the wonderful running glazes, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
this is an early Staffordshire pottery through and through. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
This was my mother's, which is why I brought it. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Before that, it was my great-auntie, Sarah. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Now, they were from the Midlands, does that tie in with Staffordshire? | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Well, absolutely. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
The Potteries around Stoke is where so much pottery was made, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
that's where this jug was made. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
And, so, Auntie Sarah's jug never travelled terribly far in its life. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
There's a few little cracks there, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
we've got a little bit of damage on the spout there, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
but I think we can forgive it that, don't you? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
Oh, yes. I forgive it everything! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
Because of that... It's probably worth, as a handsome jug, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
oh, ?1,000. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
MURMURING IN BACKGROUND | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
I had a vague idea it might be like that, yes. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:56 | |
A piece of furniture like this | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
is stretching my expertise to the very limit. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
It's one of the wonderful things about the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
you see more and more difficult pieces. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
This is a very early piece of furniture, potentially, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
and it really makes me have to think very hard. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
So, you help me - | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
what can you tell me about it, where did you get it from? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Right, it was actually a very special birthday present | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
for a very special birthday last year. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
It was given to me by my husband to make it less painful, basically. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
He knows that I'm very passionate about early English history, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
and last year, when he asked me, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
"Where do you want to go for your birthday?" | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
I turned down Paris, Brussels, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
I said I wanted to go to Leicestershire. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Leicestershire. Leicestershire, yes, the Battle of Bosworth, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
because it happened to have been on the day of my birthday, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
and therefore there was no better place than the Battle of Bosworth. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
So, the Battle of Bosworth, 1485? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
August the 22nd, 1485. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
And I'm hoping that you will be able to confirm | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
that there is a possibility | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
that this piece was made around that time. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
Well, pieces like this fall into two, or possibly three categories. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Right. One, that it's totally original... Yeah. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
..two, that it's a fake, a made-up fake... Yeah. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
..three, that it's a 19th century revered copy. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I look at things like this, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
this sort of almost looks like artificial distressing, and I think, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
"Surely this can't be a period piece?" | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
I then had a peep earlier at the inside of the door. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
That's wonderful, it's a typical early frame saw, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
when they stood in a pit and had a big, wobbly saw... | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
To tighten up the blade, a string would tighten up the blade, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
you'd cut like that, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
and if you were underneath you'd get all the sawdust on you. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
That is how this sort of piece of furniture would be made, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
that's a very good sign. And these wonderful... | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
We've all seen this before, every cathedral, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Reims Cathedral, any big cathedral you go to, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
you've got this wonderful ogee trellis here with this carving. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
This is delightful carving. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
It's really inspired, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
hand-carved by an artist who knew and loved his work. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
The hinges on the locks to me are all very, very good signs. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
Mm. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
So, you know, looking at it... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
..I'm perfectly happy about it. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Let's just for a minute think, do you know what it was used for? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Right, um... | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
I'm not quite sure whether you would call it a dressoir, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
or possibly ambry, one of the questions I actually have for you. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
Well, it's French, and it would be a dressoir. Right. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
The wonderful thing about these, the original ones... Yeah. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
..are made to go in the main room of a house. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Yeah. And dressoir means you would dress it. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
You would probably have white linen, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
you would have pewter on top and below, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
or silver, or something of this quality, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
probably even gold plate, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
cos that was your duty as a host, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
to bring people into the house to show them how wealthy you were. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Yeah. You didn't hide it, you showed your status, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
so you'd dress your dressoir. Yeah. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
So that's the correct word. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
So you asked me if it was | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
the same date as the Battle of Bosworth, 1485. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
It's around that date. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
Nobody can be that accurate but certainly within 50 years, yes, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
if it's what I think it really is. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Brilliant. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
If we can prove my theory and it is right, a period piece, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
insure it for... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
?30,000? OK. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
And hopefully it's going to be the one and only object | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
in our family that's worthy of being passed on | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
generation after generation, and possibly another 500 years. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
SHE LAUGHS Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
I've had quite a few deja vu moments here at the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
When you got that out, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
I was having yet another one, | 0:12:58 | 0:12:59 | |
because things like this, back in the 1970s, were my stock in trade. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
Is it something that you or your family use? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
It's not, I don't really know too much about it. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
My father worked in the casino business | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
in the late '60s and early '70s. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
I can only surmise that he acquired it. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
About three or four years ago, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
I had a friend who worked in Hatton Garden, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
and I took some old jewellery up to scrap it, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and Dad gave me this and said, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
"Can you take this up and scrap it?" No! | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
It was on the scales... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
No! ..and I couldn't bring myself to do it. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Thank God for that. Well, obviously, it's here. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
I can't believe... I came back and I said to Dad, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
"Look, it's a beautiful thing, I can't do it." | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
He obviously wanted the money, so we came to an arrangement. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
I gave him the scrap value of it... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
And how much was that? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
I gave him ?2,500 for it. That's quite a lot. Yeah, but... | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
You rescued it, in other words. Yeah. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Well, obviously, you know what it is, it's a Dunhill. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I believe so. Nine carat gold... Yeah. ..cigarette lighter. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Can I open it? Of course, yeah. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Which way does it open? Ah, there. There's a cigarette lighter, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
And here is a compact, with a lipstick in there, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and the lipstick goes in there... That's got a mirror... | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
..and the powder goes there and the mirror's there. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
But the best part about it is, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
we press the side piece here and the watch shoots out. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
This was called a vanity compendium. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
I looked at the hallmark... Right. ..and this is 1933. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
One in 1932... Right. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
..won the gold prize at Goldsmiths Hall, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and it was said to be an ingenious assemblage of engineering, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
which you can see it is. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
It's so fine, it's finely reeded. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
And here, at this end, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
there's a little thumb piece where you put your fingernail, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
and lift the flap, and pull it, and you've got a gold pencil. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
I mean, that is extraordinary. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
The downside is smoke has become less popular. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Yeah. The upside is, compacts are very collectable, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
and the other upside is that Dunhill is very collectable. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
So, they're made in Switzerland. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Right. I mean, obviously the watch is a Swiss watch. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
But in the '70s, I used to sell one like this for about ?900. Right. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:15 | |
But you paid 2,000, didn't you? 2,500. 2,500. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Well... | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
..now, that 2,500, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
I don't know if you'll get your money back, and probably... | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
triple it, actually... Right. ..and it's between 7,500 to 10,000. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:33 | |
It may be even as much as ?12,000 for this. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
So you were right to rescue it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Now that you know it's worth about three times | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
the price that you paid to rescue it, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
what do you think you're going to do with it? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Keep it. My father died a couple of months ago. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
I'm sorry. So, every time I get it out and look at it, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
it's a reminder of my dad. So... | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
I'd do just the same, I think. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
Yeah. No, I won't be selling it. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
So, this fabulous poster of "Bostock and Wombwell's | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
"World Renowned Menagerie, the oldest, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
"largest and best travelling exhibition ever organised." | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
What's your connection with it? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
My connection is that George Wombwell | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
was my great-great-great uncle. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
He started it because he loved animals, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
and he happened to go into the London docks one day | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and he saw a pair of boa constrictors, which he bought, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and that was the start of it. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
So, this was established in 1805, this particular zoo, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
and of course continued throughout the 19th century... | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
About 120 years. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
And what I think we've got to realise and remember, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
most people didn't leave the village or town they were born in | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
and suddenly this menagerie would arrive with zebras and elephants, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
never seen before. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
So I think we've got to remember how exciting... Oh, yes. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
..that was for people in the 19th century. Yes. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
They were commanded to go to Windsor Castle | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
on several occasions by Queen Victoria, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
and she wrote about them in her diaries. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
Again, because it was such a fascinating thing. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
And you've got Staffordshire figures, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
with lions and tigers and elephants. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
I mean, incredibly exotic. Mm. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
You've got this little book here of all the money they took, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
Banbury were very interested, cos they've paid ?44, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
they took ?44 at Banbury. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
But all these other, Broadway, they travelled all over the countryside. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Yes. And all over the world. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
New Zealand, Australia, India... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Incredible. ..China and Japan. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
Absolutely amazing. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
And this is, who's this gentleman here? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
This is James Bostock, this is my great-grandfather, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Edward Henry Bostock's father. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
So, a fascinating piece of history. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I remember growing up in the Scottish Borders, | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
being excited when the circus came, or when the fair came once a year. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
But take me, you know, back to the 19th century, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
it was even more exciting. Mm. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:08 | |
And obviously, if we're looking at valuation, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
it's not going to be terribly high, so we're talking a few hundred, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
but it's the personal connection... It's the connection. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
..that's so important. Yes, it is. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:20 | |
Thank you. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
UPBEAT MUSIC | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Hello. Hi there, what have you got in this briefcase? | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Important papers? Well... | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
you might be surprised. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
Are these...? Are these...? | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
They are what you think they are, yes. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:56 | |
..toilet chain pulls? That's correct, yes. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Um, why? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Well, I used to watch this show back in the '80s. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
I felt I needed to collect something, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
and it needed to be something I could afford, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
it needed to be something small, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
and I found that one... | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
in Brighton, and I understand it to be Royal Doulton. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
So how many have you got of these things? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
About 200. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
So it must mean you're FLUSH, then? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Oh, very good! Never heard that one before(!) | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Now, I think everybody would know we're looking at a smoker's cabinet, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
a very common piece of furniture in the Victorian and Edwardian periods. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
It's quite pretty, but I have to say to you, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
it's not very special, is it? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Well, it's not really special until you come up to this part here... | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Right. ..where it's been presented to Dr Hugh Ferguson Watson, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
who was the first doctor to force-feed the suffragettes | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
in Perth Prison. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
Now, the suffragette movement was very powerful in Scotland. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
I think the focus is always on London and the South, as usual. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
What did Scottish suffragettes do? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Well, they did all the usual things - | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
they broke windows, they demonstrated, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
there was a huge march in Edinburgh in 1909, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
and of course force-feeding, which becomes a major issue, not so early, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
normally from 1911, 1912 onwards, was important in Scotland. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
And obviously, this chap, Hugh Ferguson Watson, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
was the doctor that did it. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Do you know anything about him? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Only what I read or found out about him. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
He was the doctor of Perth Prison, he was the doctor of Perth Hospital, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
and he was the first one that actually started force-feeding | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
the four suffragettes that were there at the time. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I think we have to think briefly about that. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
I mean, it was a very intrusive, aggressive process, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
humiliating, dangerous and utterly unpleasant. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
It was done, as it sounds, force-feeding, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
often the tubes went into your lung rather than your stomach, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
it gave you pneumonia, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
it gave you permanent physical and psychological damage, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and it was administered by doctors. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
And you think, "Well, hang on a minute, doctors are supposed to... | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
"cure, not maim." | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
And this was the big debate at the time. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
So I think this is a classic case, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
where an interesting but frankly fairly ordinary object, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
reveals a really, really sort of dark piece of our history, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
which we must not forget. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
This was a great fight for freedom. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Women did not get the full voting rights | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
that you and I have until 1928. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
It was a long, long battle. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
What's it worth as a cabinet? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
?40 or ?50. Yeah. But that's not it. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
That makes it a really important piece of social history. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
That's what it is, the history of it, I think it's brilliant. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
Yes. Just to find that out about it. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Well, you did very well rescuing it. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Thank you very much. Thank you. Pleasure, thank you. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Well, here's how they landed the catch in the early 19th century - | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
you wait for the tide to go down, and you beach your fishing boat, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
and then the family of the fishermen come and take the fish off the boat. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
It's an extraordinary capture of early 19th-century life, isn't it? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:17 | |
Absolutely. And it's by Edward William Cooke. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Yes. Signed and dated 1839. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Yes. And why are you interested in Cooke, if you are? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Well, he's my great-great-grandfather, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
and we've always had a great interest, | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
although he's not a very famous painter. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Well, he is in my world. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
In his day, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
he was one of the most successful British landscape painters, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
well, marine painters, really, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
and you've got to remember, of course, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
that, in those days, Britain was very much king of the seas. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Yes. And we relied on the sea for everything, commerce, militarily, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
diplomatically, in every way we were masters of the sea, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
and people would've understood sea pictures in the Royal Academy | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
in those days in a way that they don't now. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
It's quite fun to deconstruct one now, isn't it, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
and look at it with older eyes? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Yes. The wide variety, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
and the sheer size of the fish that they've caught, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
and landed it straight on the shore | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and shipped it straight to Billingsgate to be sold fresh. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
It's a very different food chain, isn't it, looking back? Absolutely. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
And much more real, somehow. Yes, healthy. Mm. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I rather like the boy. He's probably the skipper's son, isn't he? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Cos the clothes look too big for him. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Now, usually, with EW Cooke, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
you can tell exactly the topography, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
and if I knew the south coast better, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
then I'd be able to say exactly where it was, but I don't. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
I know that he liked to go to the Isle of Wight a lot... Yes. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
..and it could be there. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
So, it's obviously oil on canvas, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
it's really got everything you should want, except that, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
if you don't mind me saying, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
it has been quite heavily cleaned... Yes. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
..and it's lost some of the glazes in the rocks | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
and the sky has gone down a bit as a result. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
His skies are so luminous. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
You can just see that this one is too, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
but less so perhaps than one in very fresh condition. Mm. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Um, you know, there was a time not so long ago | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
when this picture would've been worth about ?20,000. Yes. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
Now, I fear that the market may have slipped a little since then, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
I'm afraid. Yep. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
And, actually, I want to leave it at 20, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
but I worry that we wouldn't quite get there these days. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
Yeah. But it's still a wonderful picture. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:28 | |
So, most people come along to the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
on the ceramics tables, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
and they bring cups and saucers and plates and vases | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
and figurines of shepherdesses, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
but you... | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
you come along with Nelson's Column, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
which is quite incredible! | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Now, the first thing that strikes me | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
is where do you keep such an extraordinary object? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
Well, it is a bit of a problem, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
but at the moment, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
Nelson is in our spare bedroom, on the side, in the corner... | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
So, this all comes apart, doesn't it? It all comes apart | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
and the four lions are on the piano. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
It's very funny, isn't it? Well, in actual fact, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
I think this was designed as a table centrepiece. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
And you can imagine, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
you'd need quite a grand dining table to accommodate such a thing. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
And here we are, standing in front of Audley End House, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
behind us, just there, and it's just the kind of grand residence | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
that something of this nature perhaps would have been made for. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
So, what do you know about where it's from or what it's made from? | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
Well, I know it belonged to my father and his first wife. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
And then he married my mother | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and I think she rather tolerated it, a black... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
It used to be in her small sitting room, on a table in the corner. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
And I think she tried to brighten it up a little bit | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
cos you can see the watermarks in there, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
and she would put some flowers in there occasionally, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
if we had visitors, to try and make it a bit more attractive. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
But, yeah... Well, it's actually made from | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
a kind of stoneware called Black Basalt. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
And Black Basalt is most associated with Wedgwood. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
And indeed, when we pick up this lion here, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
cos the lions are all loose, we can see... | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
..that there's an impressed Wedgwood mark. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
These are extraordinarily rare | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
and, you know, in 30 years of looking at pottery and porcelain, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
I've never seen this. Oh, right. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
There is one in the National Maritime Museum, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
made in 1917, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
but apart from that, I know of no other. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
What is so interesting about it is the quality of the moulding. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
You can just see here, these delicate little acanthus leaves, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and the real care in which | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
the flutes of the column have been created. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
So, it's a luxury, grand object... | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
..and probably, therefore, its life in a back bedroom and on a piano | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
is not what it was intended for, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
but it doesn't matter. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
So, there must be a lot of collectors out there | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
who would really love this. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
So, based on what they pay for things of equal rarity, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
I'm going to put a figure of ?3,000 to ?5,000 on it. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
Wow! That's fantastic! | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
It's time for our regular guessing game, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
set by our experts, The Enigma. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
And this week's Enigma comes here from Audley End, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
this beautiful silver object, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
brought along by our silver specialist, Alastair Dickenson. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
This looks fiendishly difficult, Alastair. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I haven't got a clue what that is and I know you've got three options. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
Certainly have. So, what are they? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
Well, the first possibility is that this is a stone holder. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
Why would anyone want a stone holder? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Ah, well, it's not just any stone holder. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
We're not talking a pebble from a beach, here? We're not. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Right, OK. We're talking of something more like a gall stone. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
Yuck! Like a fatty concretion from the gut of an animal, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:07 | |
specifically from the goat. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
And it's called a bezoar stone holder. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
And the word "bezoar" is Persian | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
and it means antidote or cure. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
And the bezoar was meant to guard or cure poison. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
They were highly prized, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
and they made these lovely containers to put the bezoar in. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:32 | |
When abouts are we talking? We're talking of the late 17th century. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
They must have been massive, for the goat, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
if they went into something that size, is what occurs to me. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Well, I've not been on the inside of a goat recently, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
so I can't tell you what the average size... | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
It must have made that goat's eyes water! | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
So, that's one option. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
I have heard of bezoar, so it's not quite as preposterous as it seems. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
So, what else? | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
The second possibility is that this is a miniature globe holder. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
In the 19th century, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
when explorers were going all around Africa | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and other different parts of the world, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
the normal case for a globe would be made of chagrin or leather. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:14 | |
Of course, they all fell apart in the tropics. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
So they made, initially, metal cases | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
for these smaller, more portable globes. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
And special silver ones, like this, were made | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
as gifts to visiting emissaries and dignitaries. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
We've had some beautiful miniature globes on the Roadshow in the past. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
I've never seen one in a case or ever heard anyone mentioning a case, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:39 | |
I have to admit. They... As I say, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
they were usually given to foreign dignitaries. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
Well, that's handy, isn't it? That's why we haven't seen one! Exactly. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
If this is a tall tale, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
you're going into an extraordinary amount of detail, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
which makes me think maybe it has the ring of truth about it. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
What's your third option? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
The third option is that this is | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
an 18th-century story sphere. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
And what is that? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
Well, story spheres originated in south-west France, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
way back in the 14th century. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
And the first ones were wooden | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
and carved, on the outside, with folklore and fables and tales | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
about things that they loved talking about. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
And you may wonder why... | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
..Christmas trees have balls hanging from them. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Or baubles, as I prefer to call them! All right, | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
but they originate from the story sphere. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Crikey! | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
What do you think? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
Very confusing. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
Yes! LAUGHTER | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
I'm quite confused, I must say. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
So, what have we got? The innards of a goat... | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
What was the second one?! | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
LAUGHING: Miniature globes. The miniature globes. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Or the bauble on a Christmas tree. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
So, what do we think? Any ideas? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:00 | |
Goat, has to be... Where's the globe? | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
And if the globe's not there any more... | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Where is the globe, if it's a globe case?! | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
That's a very good point! | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
Actually, for that reason alone - thank you, madam - I am going for... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
I think let's go for the goat, the bezoar holder. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
You sure? LAUGHTER | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
No, but that's what we're going for! | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
Well, I hate to tell you, Fiona... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
you're right! | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
Yes! CHEERING AND LAUGHTER | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
Well done, that lady who told me about that! | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
Right. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:32 | |
The bezoar was a massively valuable thing. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
In the Renaissance period, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
a bezoar was worth ten times the value of gold. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Wow! | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
They were phenomenally expensive and valuable, | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
and that's why you had these wonderful cases. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
Alastair, thank you for setting us this week's Enigma | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
and telling us some preposterously tall tales about it. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
Story of my life! | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
So, do you remember these from your childhood? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
No, not from when I was very young. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
We weren't allowed to sort of play with anything like this, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
it was sort of kept away from us. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
I was a bit destructive as a child. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Well, you know, you and me both, really. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
But clearly it was a good thing they were kept away from you | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
if you were destructive, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:22 | |
because what we've got here are two absolutely lovely | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
second-half-of-the-19th-century children's books. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Dean's New Magic Peep Show Picture Book. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
It's not a sort of peepshow like the end of the pier, | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
with what-the-butler-saw kind of peeps, | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
this is rather more for children. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
And the first two peeps of this are just fantastic. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
They're the wonders of the age. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:45 | |
We can see in a second why it was a good thing | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
you weren't really allowed to play with them as a child, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
because here we have a wonderful peep | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
and, as you look down into it, | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
you see all the way along | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
the grand central aisle | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
of the Crystal Palace. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
So, it is a pretty amazing thing, actually. Unbelievable. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
And then the next one is also another wonder of the age, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
rather less well known today, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
and this is the Thames Tunnel. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
The Thames Tunnel was built | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
slightly before the Crystal Palace, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
and the intention was that it was going to be for wheeled transport. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
But it cost so much money to make, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
and it was a bit of a white elephant at the time, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
so it became a pedestrian tourist attraction. Right. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
And about two million people a year went to see it. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
Two million?! Yeah. And, of course, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
this is educating children at a time when children | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
were no longer being sent up chimneys, by and large, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
and they were having to go to school. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
And then this other one | 0:33:42 | 0:33:43 | |
is absolutely charming, as well, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
which is Dean's Pantomime Toy Books. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
Aladdin. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
And this is all to do with | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
going to the theatre and everything | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
and it's just so dazzling! | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
It is printed with chromolithography, | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
which was a relatively new technique, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
which allowed cheap mass production in colour printing. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
And it's not just a little bit of text and a picture in the middle. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
It's got folding pages and the whole story of a Aladdin told in pictures. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:13 | |
So these are very collectable today, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
and I think you've got some quite valuable things here. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
The Peep Show book, at auction, would make somewhere... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
?600 to ?800. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
Cor! | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
And the Pantomime Aladdin, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
charming as it is, is not as valuable, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
and is worth perhaps ?200 to ?300. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Blimey! I didn't think it was anything like that. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
I just liked them. So it is the best part of ?1,000 there. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Fantastic. Thank you. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
You've brought me this sword, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
but this is a sword with a really special story. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
Absolutely. This sword... | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
..ended the War of Independence in America, | 0:34:52 | 0:34:57 | |
because my husband's great-great-great-great-grandfather, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
four greats, I think I got them right, Lord Cornwallis, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
surrendered with this sword at Yorktown | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
and that was the beginning of the end of the War of Independence | 0:35:09 | 0:35:13 | |
and we lost all our American colonies, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
which was a very dismal result. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
It was. And wasn't Cornwallis's fault. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
They'd been besieged by the French, they were hung up, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
they couldn't get out, there was nobody coming for them. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
No. He had no option other than... | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
And he had to surrender. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
And Cornwallis was diplomatically ill and wouldn't attend. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
That, I didn't know. Poor man. Oh, dear. How very sad. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
You can understand why Cornwallis realised that that was | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
the end of English possession... Absolutely. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
..in the American colonies. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
Absolutely, it was the beginning of the end. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
And this is the actual sword? | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
And this is the actual sword with which he had to surrender. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
And then, because it was the etiquette of the day, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
they gave the sword back. Yes. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
So we've had it pretty well ever since, I think. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
But it's just an ordinary sword, really, isn't it? | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Yes, it's just a work... a workmanlike sword. Mm. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:13 | |
But historically, absolutely fascinating. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
Amazing. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
Um... A value? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
I would have thought - a low estimate - | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
?10,000 to ?12,000? | 0:36:23 | 0:36:25 | |
Goodness me, that is amazing. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
It's such a fascinating thing for the American market. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
It is, isn't it? It represents the start of modern America. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
I think they would love it, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
but I think we'll probably have to keep it. Splendid. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
That's what I like to hear. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Any time I see any type of box, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
I wonder if there's a secret inside. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
Tell me about this work box. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
It was my grandmother's engagement present, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
and we think she got it about 1900s. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
It is a sewing table, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
but my grandmother loved writing stories, even as a little girl, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
she was always writing stories. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
She wanted to be a journalist, but wasn't allowed to. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
But, as she grew older, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
she wrote stories for broadcast on Listen With Mother at lunchtimes, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
which people probably remember. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
And she always used to keep the scripts for those | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
and other things that she wrote in this work table. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
This was your grandmother. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
That's my grandmother, yes. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Janet Gemmill. Janet Gemmill, yeah. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
And, so, she kept her scripts in here? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Yes, all of them, the ones that were accepted | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
and the ones that were rejected. Right. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
They were always in there. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
And why didn't she become a journalist? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
She wasn't allowed to, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
I mean, woman's work and all that sort of thing. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
Oh, gosh, yes. You know, her grandmother just didn't let her. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Yes. So... | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
..these are her...her stories. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
Let's just put this back down again. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
And one is tempted to say, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
"Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin." | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
LAUGHTER And here it is. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
"The little green gnomes had lived in the forest | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
"for years and years and years. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
"They had come to look upon it as their very own, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
"although they knew that it was part of the country ruled over by a king, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
"the father of their beloved Princess Coralie." | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
Well, she might not have been allowed to be a journalist, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
but it has been read out! | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
So that was very good. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
So, we're saying that she got this as an engagement present in...? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:34 | |
We think 1900s. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
Of course, it was not new then. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
No. No. I mean, this is very typical | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
of the walnut furniture made around the middle of the 19th century. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
And she obviously found this very special use for it. Mm. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
Unfortunately, this sort of furniture is sort of out of fashion | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
and it's got quite a bit of damage to it. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
And, in terms of the value of this, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
it's probably only ?300 to ?400. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
That's what we expected. But the thing is, | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
the value of what's inside, to you as a family, is very much more. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
Mm. Lovely. Yes. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
MUSIC: Listen With Mother theme tune | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
'Are you sitting comfortably? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
'Then we'll begin.' | 0:39:25 | 0:39:26 | |
"Liberte, paix and solidarite." | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
Liberty, peace and solidarity. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
What a lovely thing. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
Interesting people designed them. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
Very interesting people, I can see that. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
How did you come by all these scarves? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
Well, my husband and I, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
we belonged to a choir called the London Youth Choir. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
And this was when? This was in the early '50s, 1950s. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
And our aim was really a sort of, hopefully, singing for peace. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
You know, world peace sort of idea. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
So, where did you go with this choir, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
what kind of countries did you visit? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:07 | |
We went to the East European countries quite often. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
They had youth festivals. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
So, Poland and Bucharest and Prague and so on. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
All the communist countries, all part of the Soviet Republic? Yes. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
And then where did the scarves come in? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
They were given to us. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Most of them were made specially for each festival. How fascinating. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
I don't think anyone has ever brought along anything like this, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
certainly since I've been on the Roadshow. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
I think you and your idealistic scarves should be seen by Ronnie - | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
he's our specialist in scarves and he'll be thrilled to see them. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
That's interesting. Thank you. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
The relationships that we have with our jewellery is so important | 0:40:49 | 0:40:54 | |
and it's very unique to us. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
We wear jewellery because it makes us happy, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
it makes us think about past generations. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
And what I think is wonderful about this, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
is that two very, very different styles are in the same family. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
So, first of all, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
we'll start with the older style, | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
which is these wonderful pearls. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
Tell me about how you got these. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:16 | |
They belong to my daughter, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
they were given to her, when she was born, by my mother-in-law, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
to whom they were given when my husband was born. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
So, they're an heirloom? They're an heirloom. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
And have you had the honour of wearing them yet? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
I've never actually worn them, but Mum wore them on my wedding day, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
so actually quite a special piece of jewellery to all of us. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
They are a beautiful example of natural pearls. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
And there has been such a renaissance with natural pearls | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
because they are so rare today. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
And I love the fact that you've got this wonderful diamond clasp. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
Quite 1950s, the clasp, actually, | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
so I would think the pearls have come from an earlier source | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
and then have been later strung | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
or married together with the '50s clasp. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:02 | |
But then suddenly, we have something completely different over here. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
So, what was going through your mind when you saw this | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
and when did you see this? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:15 | |
I bought it in 1972, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
with money from an insurance claim that... | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
I'd had a diamond brooch stolen, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
which was given to me by my mother-in-law. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
OK, so it was from the same collection. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
It was from the same, yes. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
So, I bought that in Collingwood's of Conduit Street, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
a jeweller no longer with us, I think. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
And I have no idea by whom it was made. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
Collingwood's are quite a traditional jewellers, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
so, for them, in the '70s, to be selling an item like this | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
was sort of quite out of the box. And for you... | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
I'm very interested in what gravitated you | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
to this style and this type of ring. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Well, I absolutely love 1970s jewellery. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
I did then, and I still do now. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
What do you love about it? | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
It's bold, it's slightly wacky, | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
and I just love the bark effect. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
I can't stop holding it. You've seen me... | 0:43:11 | 0:43:15 | |
I am so in love with this, so in love with this ring! | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
The '70s was about big stones and dramatic pieces, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:22 | |
and diamonds were just there just to highlight a design. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
And this stone is a tourmaline, which is a natural stone. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
And this would have come from Brazil. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
There were some wonderful workshops | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
that were making these types of jewels | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
and they're highly collected now, today. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:40 | |
The '70s period is really quite in. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
And the only thing is, there is no signature. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
I know. There is no signature of this wonderful craftsman, | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
and I would love to know who the craftsman is. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
Maybe, he might be watching. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:57 | |
Wouldn't that be wonderful?! Wouldn't that be wonderful? | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
Yes, it really would. It really would. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
We'll let you know if we hear. Thank you. We'll let you know. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
But, because of the '70s jewellery being in vogue, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
there's a lot of competitive bidding going on at the moment, out there, | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
as there are with pearls, too, | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
so you're not being left out, here. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
You've definitely, definitely got a wonderful heirloom. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
And, you know, the natural pearls, as I said, | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
you don't find these in the oceans any more. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
These are saltwater pearls. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
And, at auction, | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
you are going to be looking in the region of around about... | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
?15,000. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Wow! Slightly more than you thought! | 0:44:40 | 0:44:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
Now, as for this one, do you remember how much you paid for it? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
No idea. Well... | 0:44:50 | 0:44:51 | |
I just think it is absolutely fabulous | 0:44:52 | 0:44:56 | |
and I think, at auction, you'd be looking in the region | 0:44:56 | 0:45:00 | |
of around about | 0:45:00 | 0:45:01 | |
?5,000 to ?7,000. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Heavens! SHE CHUCKLES | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
That's lovely. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
And if the person phones us up and tells us who made it, | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
it'll be worth more! | 0:45:10 | 0:45:11 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:45:11 | 0:45:12 | |
That would be a really good end to the story, thank you. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
When you came to the table and I saw these coming out of your bag, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
you brought them out, I couldn't believe my eyes! | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
And then... I know that you had | 0:45:27 | 0:45:29 | |
a conversation with Fiona about how you acquired them | 0:45:29 | 0:45:33 | |
and wasn't it through going to world peace festivals? | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
That's right, yes, it was. And when was that? | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
In the early '50s, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:40 | |
and into the '60s, but mainly in the '50s. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
So you went to Communist countries | 0:45:43 | 0:45:44 | |
in the days when they were shut off to most people? | 0:45:44 | 0:45:46 | |
It was the only way to get in! | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
Well, these scarves are fabulous. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
And I'd like to focus on my favourite, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
and it's these up here. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
You must know that one like this... | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
What does that say? "Liberte, solidarite." | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
And that's designed by | 0:46:05 | 0:46:06 | |
one of the most famous artists of the 20th century. Really? | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
Fernand Leger. I knew the name, but I didn't know he was so famous. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
He was a cubist and a modernist... My goodness. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
..and his work is really sought after. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:19 | |
And this chap here, who did this one, needs no introduction at all. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
No. We all know who Picasso is. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
And this one is what is known as... | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
These are propaganda scarves to collectors. Yes. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:33 | |
And artists that were interested in politics at the time | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
made images that got printed up to be used at congresses | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
and festivals like you went to. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
And that was... de rigueur in the '50s... | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Absolutely, yes, it was. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
..for forward-thinking, enlightened people. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
People really love these things. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:55 | |
I remember seeing one of these, in the '70s, in a gallery | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
and thought, I... I've always wanted one of those | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
and I've never actually found one | 0:47:02 | 0:47:04 | |
and you've got two of the greatest scarves | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
from this type of collecting that I know of. Golly. | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
And this Fernand Leger, as I said, is a huge name. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
Unfortunately, it's a bit smudged, but it's not too bad. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:16 | |
I think it could be improved and this one, | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
if it was in really good condition, is probably worth about... | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
?1,200. Gosh! | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
Maybe this one's worth about 800 or 900 as it is. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:29 | |
This one is in really good condition | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
and one of these made $2,500 | 0:47:31 | 0:47:35 | |
in a New York sale a few years ago. | 0:47:35 | 0:47:37 | |
So, in all, | 0:47:37 | 0:47:38 | |
the others are worth about ?500, plus about ?1,700 worth, | 0:47:38 | 0:47:43 | |
plus about ?1,000, | 0:47:43 | 0:47:44 | |
so that comes to something like ?3,000, I think, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
for the lot. Wow! | 0:47:48 | 0:47:50 | |
Now, you've brought along some medals, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:57 | |
but also a box of draughts. What have you brought that in for? | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
We were clearing my parents' house | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
after my father went into residential care | 0:48:03 | 0:48:05 | |
and I found a draughts box, which I thought contained draughts. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
I was just about to throw it into a box for the charity shop | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
and it rattled, so I looked in and I found the medals. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:15 | |
That's amazing. And these medals relate to the First World War, | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
but there's one medal in particular | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
that I want to talk about and that's this one here. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:24 | |
This is the Distinguished Service Medal. | 0:48:24 | 0:48:28 | |
What do you know about it? | 0:48:28 | 0:48:29 | |
My grandfather won the Distinguished Service Medal | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
at the Battle of Jutland. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
He was a chief petty officer stoker. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
He changed over oil tank, after the oil tank was hit, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
to the other oil tank, under full steam | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
and was awarded the DSM. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
So he was quite a brave man? Yes. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
The Battle of Jutland took place | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
in 1916, on 31st May and 1st June. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
And it's an incredibly famous battle - | 0:48:54 | 0:48:56 | |
it was the largest naval battle in the First World War. | 0:48:56 | 0:49:01 | |
Many sailors were killed, many ships were sunk. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
This is a very, very important medal | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
and important group of medals. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
These medals do have a value. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
And you were about to, not throw them out, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
but you were about to give them to a charity shop, weren't you? Yes. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
The Distinguished Service Medal is the important medal in the group, | 0:49:20 | 0:49:27 | |
but you have got several other medals here, too - | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
you've got a Long Service And Good Conduct, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
you've got a British War Medal, | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
you've got a 1914-15 Star. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
The value of the group is going to be somewhere in the region of... | 0:49:38 | 0:49:43 | |
?2,500 to ?3,500. | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
I never imagined it would be that amount. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
But they stay with the family, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
So, what a pile of old bones | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
and bits of smashed-up crockery and shells you've brought to me | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
and I'm supposed to be the jewellery man. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:04 | |
But tell me all about it. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:05 | |
Well, we found them at the Thames, | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
cos we went on a little search | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
for all little pieces like this. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
Yes, and who took you there first, was it a friend? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
Yeah, and her family. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
Yes. They call it mudlarking, don't they? Yeah. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
And I'm a mudlarker, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
I'm absolutely thrilled to do this | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
and once I get away from my jewellery table, | 0:50:28 | 0:50:30 | |
what I really want to do | 0:50:30 | 0:50:32 | |
is go down to the great, green, greasy Thames | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
and try to find these things | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
and you've found them perfectly, haven't you? | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Which is your favourite? | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
It's probably...the jaw. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
And tell us why that is. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:44 | |
Because I like that there's still teeth inside. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
Yes, amazing. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:49 | |
And this is a jawbone of a sheep and we can only guess how old that is. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:55 | |
But the Thames was a sort of rubbish dump | 0:50:55 | 0:50:57 | |
and people hurled all kinds of trash into it, simply to get rid of it. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:02 | |
But of all the things you've shown me, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
I think the most magical is this, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
and have you any idea why I like that one so much? | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
Is it because it's very old? | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
It is very, very old and it's not only very old, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
but it was made on the other side of the world. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
It was made in China and a little potter, 400 years ago, | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
made a vast bowl and decorated it with all manner of good things | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
including what is left of a peony here, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
in a dynasty known as the Kangxi Period, which is 400 years ago, | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
and we can only guess at the sort of people that were eating from it. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
They were in the 17th century, they'd be wearing wigs, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
they'd be very strange to us, living in the centre of London, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
very prosperous, could afford all kinds of things | 0:51:44 | 0:51:47 | |
and then, dang it, the servant breaks the plate. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
There's no point keeping that, fling it in the river | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
and then you come along 400 years later and find it and show it to me. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:56 | |
Well, if that isn't magic, what is? It's wonderful! | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
These are not valuable objects in the conventional sense of the word, | 0:51:59 | 0:52:02 | |
but they're enormously valuable to you | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
and they're enormously valuable to me. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
I mean, I think they've got wonderful context | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
and maybe, one day, you can make a career from it. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
What would you like to be when you come to work? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
An archaeologist. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
LAUGHING: Of course you would! I know! | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
I always wish I had been an archaeologist | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
but my break went in another direction, | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
I've been enormously lucky. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
Thank you very much for bringing them. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
It was really good, wasn't it? Yeah. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
In the 1920s and 1930s, there was a lot of interest in fairies. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:35 | |
You may remember there were some photographs produced | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
and people were convinced | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
there were fairies at the bottom of people's gardens. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
Yeah, there are! | 0:52:43 | 0:52:44 | |
Well, you're a good one to talk to me | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
because you've got fairies on your sideboard from what I can see. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
Have you been living with these fairies for quite some time? | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
About 12 years. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
12 years. Yes. And before then? | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
Before then, they lived in Ireland, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
from about 1962 until 2004. Oh, right. Right. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:05 | |
Do you want to go further back? If you can go further back. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:08 | |
They were owned by a cousin of my aunt, who lived in Johannesburg. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
Goodness me, these are well-travelled vases! They are. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
So they've been fairies in South Africa, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
they've been leprechauns by the time they got to Ireland... | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
That's it, yes. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:22 | |
..and now they are fairies again in Saffron Walden. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
That's it. Right. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:26 | |
They are very special, because they remind me of my aunt. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
Ahh. That is what it's about, at the end of the day, isn't it? | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
Let's have a look at the pieces | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
because I know you've done a little bit of research, | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
because, talking to the daughter who's behind you, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
with the next inheritor in her arms... That's it, absolutely. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:47 | |
The big name here, it's one we've heard before on the Roadshow, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:51 | |
is Daisy Makeig-Jones, as the designer. Yeah. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
She did come up with these amazing designs and produced by Wedgwood, | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
in Etruria in Stoke-on-Trent, | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
and...under the banner of Wedgwood Fairyland Lustre. | 0:54:02 | 0:54:07 | |
Oh, right. So, you've got three very nice prime pieces. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:12 | |
The thing about the Wedgwood Fairyland in general | 0:54:12 | 0:54:17 | |
is that it is very, very dependent on condition. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
Right, yeah. A little bit of wear. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
And so the first thing I do when I see a bowl like this is this... | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
BOWL CHIMES | 0:54:27 | 0:54:28 | |
Oh, sounds good. That sounds all right. | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
That's a good sound, that is a good sound. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:33 | |
The decoration is called Castle On The Road, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
but the interior, for some reason, | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
is called Boxers. I am looking at these fairies... | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
Or Boxing, rather. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
I can't see any boxing fairies but, anyway, that's what it's called. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
That's what it's called. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:50 | |
So, it's making the right sound. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
Good. OK? | 0:54:53 | 0:54:54 | |
Because if it had made a bit of a snare... Yeah? | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
..that would have been worth...?1,000? | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
It's worth a bit more than 1,000 now. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
So I think we will start with that one... | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
at around the 3,000 mark. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:06 | |
Holy smoke! Really?! Maybe a little bit more. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:10 | |
So, leaning over, let's have a look at this one. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
This one is called Pillar, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
cos you've got these columns. Yeah. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
OK, you have got these columns and... | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
VASE RINGS | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
Yeah, that's making a nice noise. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
So, with a piece like that... | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
..the chances are, you're going to be... | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
nearer ?6,000. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
Six?! What, for this ONE?! | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
Mm, yeah. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
So... I should be sitting down! No, no, no. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
Or laying down, Mum? | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
So we now move on to this big thing, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
which could even work as an umbrella stand, couldn't it? | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
I think that's what they used it for - | 0:55:54 | 0:55:55 | |
they just dumped umbrellas in it. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
Did they really? Yeah. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:58 | |
Let's have a look. It's called Bubbles, for obvious reasons, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
and you've got this wonderful arrangement | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
of what appear to be like water babies, little winged sprites. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
Have you noticed the sleeping dragon? | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
Have you looked at the bottom there? Yeah. Yeah. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
Good. Now, I've to come round to this one | 0:56:12 | 0:56:13 | |
because I don't want to lift it. That's got a... | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
VASE RINGS | 0:56:16 | 0:56:17 | |
Lovely. Did you like that? | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
I did, yeah. Do it again! Are you sure? | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
VASE RINGS OK. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
Um, right... | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
The thing is, that I'm looking in there | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
and I'm wondering if I can see a crack. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
DAUGHTER GASPS | 0:56:33 | 0:56:34 | |
Because if that is a crack... | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
Let's say it's one of my hairs! | 0:56:37 | 0:56:38 | |
Well, no. The long and short of it is, if it's a crack... | 0:56:38 | 0:56:41 | |
Do you mind if I look at it? No, that's fine. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
Because if it's a crack, it's ?2,000, you understand that? | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
Ooh! OK. Yeah. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
That's still loads more than we expected. Still loads of money. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
Yeah, it is. It is a crack? | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
No. I don't... | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
Hang on, let's have a look. No. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:55 | |
OK. No crack. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
Well... | 0:56:57 | 0:56:58 | |
No, no crack. Excellent. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:02 | |
So, I suppose, | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
forget the 2,000, | 0:57:05 | 0:57:06 | |
I think we've got to now say... | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
?20,000. | 0:57:08 | 0:57:09 | |
CROWD GASPS LOUDLY Oh, my word! OK, that woke the baby! | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
You are joking?! My goodness. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
Where money's concerned, I never joke, I never joke. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:22 | |
I'd better insure it. | 0:57:22 | 0:57:24 | |
Well, you know, I mean, it's nice... | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
It's nice to think that there's a profit to be had | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
by having fairies in anybody's house, | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
but in your house, it's come good. Yes, absolutely! | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
Excellent. Amazing. Amazing. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
I think that family will be telling the story of that valuation | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
and their day at the Antiques Roadshow for years to come, | 0:57:44 | 0:57:47 | |
and it will certainly give that baby | 0:57:47 | 0:57:49 | |
something to remember when it grows up. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:51 | |
From all of us here at Audley End and the whole Roadshow team, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
I told you, I don't need any help. And I told you, you've got it. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:33 | |
Leopard changed its spots, has it? | 0:58:33 | 0:58:34 | |
Come on, then! | 0:58:34 | 0:58:36 | |
Grant, what you doing?! | 0:58:36 | 0:58:37 | |
Phil! | 0:58:37 | 0:58:38 |