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There have been generations of aristocratic families | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
living in this majestic house since the early 1600s. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
It's elegantly formal on the outside and hugely imposing on the inside, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
but you might be surprised to learn that in the 1820s | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
this was a grand playground for eight children | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
who were allowed to indulge their passion | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
for painting and toy-making, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
creating objects that tell vivid tales of their lives. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Welcome back to the Antiques Roadshow at Audley End | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
near Saffron Walden in Essex. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
The children were the offspring of the third Lord and Lady Braybrooke, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
who were considered very liberal parents in their day. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
The nursery was the centre of the children's world where they played, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
slept, argued and ate, all under the supervision of their governess. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:42 | |
This is a watercolour by one of the girls of the nursery. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
And it's a brilliant insight into what life was like then and it looks | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
just the same now, with the wooden panelling, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
over there on either side of the fireplace. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
And it's so skilfully done. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And that's because their drawing master was Caleb Robert Stanley, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
a well-known watercolourist who was commissioned by Queen Victoria | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
to paint all of her palaces, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
and painting interiors was hugely popular back then. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
These watercolours done by other members of the family | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
are so useful now in showing us what the decor | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
and furnishings were like back in the 19th century. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
In the corner of these pictures is the original doll's house. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
It's enormous and with ten rooms fitted out | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
with pre-Victorian worlds in miniature, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
this children's plaything has become an important record | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
of the house and life back then. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
The furniture and the furnishings are made from odds and ends | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
gathered by the children, so this curtain material here in the nursery | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
is left over from the 1770s Adam dining parlour, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
and then the vibrantly coloured wallpaper in many of the rooms | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
is Regency and culled from trunks and boxes of the period. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
I would have given my eye teeth to have a doll's house like this | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
when I was a child and I bet our experts would be thrilled by it. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
English Heritage now own and cherish this lovely house and grounds. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Over to our specialists examining the treasures brought in | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
by our visitors for today's Roadshow. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
I always say that the finest things come in the best packaging, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
particularly in my subject of clocks and watches, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
and this is a cracking good box. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Octagonal, tooled leather, don't you think it's rather special? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
It looks it to me, yes. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
Am I going to be disappointed with what's inside? | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
I don't think so. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
I think it's rather unusual. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Let me be the judge. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
Wow. You're not wrong. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
That is fantastic. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Have you collected it or is it a family thing? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
No, it came from my grandfather, who was a potter, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
and he used to buy musical movements for putting in the bottom of jugs, | 0:03:55 | 0:04:01 | |
tankards, and he used to buy quite a few thousand of these movements | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
from Rouge in Switzerland. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
-Yes. -This was a gift to him from Rouge | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
as a thank you for all his orders. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
That was a lovely gift, wasn't it? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
-It was indeed. -So what sort of date do you reckon this is? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
I would think round about the 1920s, early 1920s. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
I think you're absolutely right. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:26 | |
I'll slip it out of there. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
It's such a beautifully fitted case, absolutely gorgeous. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
Collectors are so keen now on things of A, the finest quality, and B, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:38 | |
the finest condition. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
And just looking at this, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
the enamel on the chaptering | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and this lovely powder blue enamel all around | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
is absolutely mint. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
The thing of course is silver and this simulated water, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
in other words the mirror, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
is rotating within that chaptering and the little fellow, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
the little gondolier, is pointing to the time there | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-which is just after half past seven. -Better put that right. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
Well, as you say, you have the little key in there | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and then we just turn him upside down, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
lovely enamel, silver and a full set of Swiss marks here | 0:05:13 | 0:05:19 | |
and of course there we've got the two squares, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
one aiguilles for the rotating of the table up there | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
and that's just to wind the movement, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
but what a wonderful thing. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
If I was being really picky, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
I would say there is a tiny bit of damage to his hand, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
which could easily be restored. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
Find another one and the answer is, I don't think you would. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
I really don't think you would | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
and when I said it was a generous present when it was new, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
it would have been a great deal of money. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
It's a pretty good chunk of money today as well. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
I hope I'm going to surprise you. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I think if you went to a... | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
..decent shop, seriously, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
you'd be paying £6,000. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
-I beg your pardon! -Happy? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
-Speechless! -LAUGHTER | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Absolutely speechless. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
So, here we have a lovely piece of Victorian invention. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
Tell me about it. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:25 | |
OK, so this is an ear trumpet which my great-great-grandmother had | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
and as we understand it, she was almost stone deaf | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
from quite a young age, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
so she carried it everywhere. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
And here she is? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
Yes, here we see her with her five daughters. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
She also had four sons and as you say, holding her ear trumpet. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
Beautifully attired. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
She was obviously a wealthy lady. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Probably quite reasonably wealthy. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
This is outside their house in Gravesend called Dashwood House. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
I don't think it exists any more. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
They were a family of auctioneers. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Auctioneers! So they were involved in the antiques business. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Possibly, yes. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
So, an ear trumpet, one of the great inventions of the Victorians, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
who were always inventing these fabulous things | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
to look after people. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
This, we have here, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
We can see here the maker is "Rein & Son, patentees, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
"inventors and only makers" and then "The Strand, London," | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
so a very good piece. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
What I love about it is the fact that | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
it has actually got this lovely grill. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Did you ever think about what this was for? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
No. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
Well, they say it was to stop flies. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
-OK. -Somebody said even earwigs. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Right! | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
If you think you were using it... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
OK. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
I think... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
do we know when she became deaf? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
We don't know exactly. There is a story that quite early on | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
in her marriage, they employed a maid who was cleaning the windows | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
and fell out and screamed very loudly | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and ever since then, Granny Cooper was deaf. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
It's a great story. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
I'm not sure if that would make somebody deaf. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
We also know that if she was going to have an extended conversation | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
with somebody, she didn't use the ear trumpet, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
but she had a yard-long tube | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
which she offered you and you could speak into the end | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
of this long tube. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
But we don't have the tube any more. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
That gave her great control, didn't it? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I think so. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
So, it's mid-19th century in date. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:37 | |
It is silver-plated so it's not solid silver, but in value terms, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
I would put it at £300 to £400, but as a family, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
it's much more important than that. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:46 | |
That's right, exactly. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Thank you. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
This type of bench can often be quite a conundrum. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Is it a piece you've had in the family for a long time? | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
It came out of my parents' Elizabethan manor house | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
which they inherited in the 1970s, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
but we think it was probably in that house from 1920 or maybe before then | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
because they inherited the furniture with the house. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-The whole thing. -Lock, stock and barrel? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Exactly. When they moved out about ten years ago, it came to me. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
My mother calls it a Suffolk bench, my children call it the ugly bench. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
What's your opinion of it? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
I really like it but I don't know what all the carving is about. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Isn't it wonderful how furniture becomes part of one's life? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
I think that's what is so fascinating about it. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
You have pieces you have grown up with | 0:09:34 | 0:09:35 | |
and you become very fond of them | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
but you don't necessarily know what they are. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
-Yes. -I wouldn't call it a Suffolk bench. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
It is what is often called a settle | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
because you settle down in it | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
and that idea is a late 17th/early 18th century idea | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
but what about the carvings? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Are they old, are they Elizabethan? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
I don't know, I hoping you will tell us. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
So many of these are made up, often they are Victorian pieces, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
completely Victorian. The frame of this, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
the actual bench is certainly Victorian, late 19th century. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:05 | |
It is a question of looking in detail at some of this carving. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Let's start with this central figure. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
He is rather nice with his arms folded. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
A pilaster, a flat figure, with this Elizabethan costume. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
That is clearly a 16th century piece of carving. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-Oh, right. -So, the other two are the same period | 0:10:18 | 0:10:24 | |
and looking in detail at these, they are period Elizabethan carvings, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
but they would never have started off, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
never ever been used in an oak bench or Settle. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
-No. -We can only speculate, really, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
as to where these panels would come from. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
They might have been from a piece of furniture | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
but more likely from a panelling, wainscoting around a fireplace, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
the centre part of the room where everyone is focusing, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
that is where you spend money on a carving. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Is the central bit all one big bit of panelling? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
No, it has all been reframed. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
They probably have nothing to do with each other | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
and nobody will be quite sure about that. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-Someone put it together? -Yeah. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Let's think about the value. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
-It's only worth in today's market only about £500 to £800. -Really? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
Very little but if you add up, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
you've got three panels there worth probably £200 each, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
so you've got £1,000 worth of panelling. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
-Right. -So, the fear is, if you sold this, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and I know you aren't going to, somebody would break it up... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
-That would be such a shame. -..sell the carvings, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
probably put plain panels in and put it back in auction and get £200 | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
-for the rest of it. -Well, it's staying as it is, that's fine, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
-thank you. -Thank you. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
So, I've seen a couple of bronzes today | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
and then you turn up with just the monster of all bronzes. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
-Where did you get it from? -It comes from Belgium. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
It was at my aunt's house in Belgium where I spent my junior years. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:47 | |
During the First World War, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
he spent the whole war underground and when the second war broke out, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
we were in Belgium, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
so we dug him in the ground again | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
underneath a magnolia bush so after five years of war, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
we had a bit of trouble finding him because we couldn't quite remember | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
where the hell we put him. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:08 | |
Why? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:09 | |
Obviously to keep it safe. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
To keep it safe, otherwise it would be used to make cannon shots | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
and all that kind of thing. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
Just like in this country, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
iron railings were all taken away during the war, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
weren't they, to be used up? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
What do you like about it? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:26 | |
Well, I was born in Tottenham, though my accent | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
is not English as you can gather. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
I am a Spurs supporter, therefore the cockerel is the emblem of Spurs, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and that is why we love him even more. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-As long as we do well at Spurs, that's fine! -Sure! | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
It's got the maker's mark there - it's not a maker I have heard of, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:52 | |
but almost certainly Paris school, last quarter of the 19th century. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
None of that matters, cos this, to me, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
is all about the quality and basically the size of it. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Although at some point it has been buried twice in its life, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
the colour is beautiful. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
It is exactly how you want to see it, this lovely nutty brown. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
It is just such a good-looking piece. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
So, whether or not a Spurs supporter would be interested in buying it, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
I don't know. I think the market for this would be in France | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
and at auction, easily £3,000 to £5,000. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Well, that causes a problem because I have two daughters | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
so what the hell do I do... | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
-..to divide it up? -It's not a bad problem to have. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Not a bad problem. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
So, all this stuff here is entirely the fault of the Roadshow? | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
Indirectly, yes. A couple of years ago, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
I was watching and there were some waterwork blueprints... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
..and I said to Amelia that I would really like to have one of those | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
on my wall and she said, "Well, if you can find one, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
-"you can have one on the wall." -What generosity of spirit. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
-Absolutely. -So, you went on the internet, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
you tracked something down | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
that fitted the bill and what did that cost? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
£100, actually, including p&p. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
What did you buy? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
I bought 650. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
It was 23 kilos. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
-Of drawings? -Of drawings. -You wanted one drawing? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
-One drawing on the wall. -More importantly, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
you only had clearance for one drawing on the wall. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
You know what you've got, obviously? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
This is a mass of working drawings for locomotives | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
from the famous company, Robert Stephenson & Co. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
How on earth does something as important as this | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
-end up on an internet site? -I have no idea. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
-So, you're just the buyer? -I'm just the buyer. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
They were in somebody's attic, is all I know. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Do you like railways? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
-Yeah. -Up to a point? | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
-Up to a point. -But not up to 600? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
No. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
Let's just look back at what they are. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
It's the greatest name in British railway history, Robert Stephenson. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
In 1823, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
he started a company in Newcastle | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
which was actually to build locomotives. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
This was the beginning of the railway age | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
and so he starts with Locomotion No. 1. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Of course, the most famous name is the Rocket. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
It wins the Rainhill Trials, it sets the pattern for locomotive building. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
In the 1830s, he is selling locomotives to America, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
he is selling locomotives to Egypt. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
It is becoming a mega, mega industrial business. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
That's the key thing because what we have got here | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
is a wonderful range of designs for locomotives for various companies. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:33 | |
This is for an Indian company, as you can see. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
That is for an Irish company. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
This one here is for the Highland Railway in 1917. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
So, by mistake, or slightly by mistake, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
you have become the keeper of a great chunk | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
of a very important archive. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
There are really two values to this collection. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
One is what it represents as a history, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
or part of the history of British engineering | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
in the 19th and early 20th century. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
The second value is, of course, what are they worth? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Was your £100 well invested or not? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
-What do you think? -650, that makes them 15p each. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Was that a good buy, do you think? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
-I hope so. -They are going to range from at the bottom, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
£10 each to £100 each so, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
do the maths. Let's take an average of £50. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
-That's a lot. -500 times £50. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
25,000. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
That wasn't bad for a punt! | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
I'm not sure what I will do with them, really. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
-Put them back in the wardrobe. -Well, yes, sit on them. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Where did you find this? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
I found it about six years ago at a London auction house. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Prior to that, it had hung in Lehman's Bank's boardroom in London | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
and only came out for sale after the failure of the bank | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-and came as part of the contents. -So you bought it at a really good time. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Lehman Brothers had just gone down, the market crashed, money was short. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
You've bought a really good image by the great Edward Bawden. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
It is a picture of Audley End and of course the tree is pretty much | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
the main focus of the picture, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:18 | |
-whereas Audley End is a little bit further back. -Tucked in there. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
So, tell me what you paid for it. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
A shade over 3,000. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
OK, you bought it very well. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
I absolutely love this artist's work. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
There is something very uplifting and powerful about it but certainly, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
£6,000 to £8,000. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
Wonderful, marvellous. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
-Thank you very much. -A super picture. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
We've got a little group of letter openers and page turners here. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:50 | |
How many of these do you actually have? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
Upwards of 600. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
You see, I wanted you to share that fact because this is a tiny, | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
tiny tip of the iceberg of your collection. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Now, what got you interested in the first place? | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Well, this was my baby, my first baby. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
I am French, my husband is English and we live in England, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
so any time we had off work, off we went to France. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
After four years of going to Paris, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
I thought, "Let's go somewhere else." | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
We went to Israel. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:22 | |
At long last, we had... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
well, a second honeymoon, really. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Fabulous. This was the result? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
This was your souvenir. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
-My starting point. -Great. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
Then I bought another one and another one and 600 openers later, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
I am still buying. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
The thing is, you look so normal! | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
I'm not! | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
So, let's talk about actually what a letter opener is, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
because actually it's not to open a letter, historically. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Historically, it was to open a letter when a letter was a letter. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Only royalty and the nobility knew how to read and write, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
so only they used to write and the letters they wrote were rolled up | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
in parchment or whatever | 0:19:08 | 0:19:09 | |
and they used a letter opener to break the seal. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
They used to have a seal on the letter and that was it. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
So, really, what we do is open envelopes, we don't open letters. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:20 | |
Exactly, so these are envelope openers, in fact, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
not letter openers. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
True. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
And then over on the side, we have page turners. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Now, page turners of course were used for exactly that, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
to turn the pages of a book, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
so that you didn't get your grubby fingers all over the vellum | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
or the parchment. This is one dating from 1887, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
for Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee and it's got her picture there. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:49 | |
And I suppose the one that is most mysterious to me is this. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Now, what do you know about this one? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
I don't know anything. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:57 | |
I'd like to know why that animal is trying to get hold of that lady. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
I don't think it is a lady, actually. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
I think it could be a bloke. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
-Right. -And who do we know that wears skirts in Europe? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
Well, apart from the Scots, I don't know. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
-The Greeks. -Ah, yes. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
Ah, yeah, never thought of that. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
Was that a light bulb moment? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
It was. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:21 | |
Because I think that this is made of olive wood. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-Right. -It looks to me as if this is a creature | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
devouring this figure here, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
or trying to. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
And I'd like to think this is a dragon. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
-Yes. -And I wonder whether it is a Greek representation | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
of St George and the Dragon. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
That would be fabulous. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Let anybody say that we're wrong. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
That's my theory, anyway. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
It's a lovely piece of naive folk carving | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and I think it probably dates | 0:20:52 | 0:20:53 | |
from the 1880s, 1890s. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
These are not probably going to be surprising values to you, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
but I think that if we look at everything on the table together, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
I would have thought we've probably got, doing the mental maths now... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
..something around £600 to £700. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Really? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Now, I'm not saying that all 600 are going to be worth... | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
But, you know, the thing is it is a fascinating area of collecting. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
It would appear to be | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
a sort of late Regency tip-up table, nice mahogany top. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
Lovely mahogany top, actually. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
Have you always had it? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
-Or did you buy it? -We bought it at auction in 2002. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
And I thought, "Wow, it is just a beautiful table." | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
-It is so simple. -It looks like it's all been nicely cleaned | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
-and restored. -Yes, when we bought it, it was very scruffy. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
-Was it? -And we got a great friend who is an expert restorer | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
-who did it for us. -Where does it sit in the house? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
It sits in a beautiful beamed sitting room. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
We have a bed-and-breakfast now, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
but it is just an occasional table. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
We have sometimes allowed people to have breakfast on it, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
but it is protected by a glass top. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-Right. -We had a glass top made for it. -Did you? -Yep. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
But when you opened it up and you saw that, what did you think? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:27 | |
My heart skipped a beat. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Well, you would think it would, wouldn't you? | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
I'm not going to embarrass myself | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
with my schoolboy French. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
My French is awful, I'm afraid. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
But it does say, basically, it says, "On 5th April 1840, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
"Napoleon Bonaparte signed his abdication on this table | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
"in the King's study, basically, in Chateau Fontainebleau." | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
And you think, "Wow, that's quite something, isn't it?" | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-Yeah. -But, and I suppose this is really where | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
you've got to question the whole thing - | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
is it likely that Napoleon would be signing his abdication | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
on an English table? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
I mean, if it was his later abdication, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
when the English had beaten him, as it were, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
they might have been nasty to him and said, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
"Now you've got to sign it on an English table." | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
But I think it's very unlikely that in the Chateau Fontainebleau in 1814 | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
that they would have furnished it with English furniture. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
After all, they were never great mates. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
And so I think it's very unlikely | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
that this was from that event. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:31 | |
So what's going on? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
I just think it's most likely that the plaque | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
has come off something else, or somebody has wanted to create this. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
So, I think we've probably got | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
a perfectly genuine little brass plaque on a perfectly genuine table, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
but they don't go together. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
They don't match, yes. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
So you can still give breakfast in your B&B on this table | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
and it would be slightly economical with the truth | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
by suggesting that they're having breakfast | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
at the table Napoleon abdicated. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
So I suppose we have to come to value. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Had it been the table, then we would probably have to get you a chair | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
to sit on because it would be a lot of money. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
But I think now... | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
..it's a very nice thing. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:18 | |
And it might be worth £1,000, £1,500, that sort of level. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
-OK. -But what a great story. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
-Yes. -Yes. -It is. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
I love furniture with stories. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:29 | |
And I'm sorry to have to debunk it. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
But that's an interesting, different slant that we hadn't thought of. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-So thank you for that. -Yes. -Great. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
What I absolutely love about jewellery | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
is that I'm always surprised. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
There's always something that comes and shouts out at me and I'm going, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
"Whoa, this is amazing." | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And this is exactly what happened today. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
What are you thinking when I'm saying that? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
I'm just surprised, really. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-Why are you surprised? -Well, I mean, | 0:24:57 | 0:24:58 | |
it's been in the family quite a long time, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
on my father's side. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
He gave it to my mother. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
I don't remember her wearing it very much. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
Before she died, she decided to split her jewellery into two | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
and give it to my sister and me. I haven't worn it very often. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
I'm sort of getting the feeling that you're not so enamoured by it. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
I think it's very beautiful. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
It's just I don't have many occasions | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
when I can actually wear it. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
This is absolutely fabulous. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
This is luxury at its height, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
in terms of the craftsmanship. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
You can see through the sunlight here the piercing of the platinum. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
This is platinum, it's diamonds. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Seed pearls. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:43 | |
The beautiful articulation of this brooch is quite superb. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:49 | |
And what is amazing - I can turn it around the other way... | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
..and it still looks superb. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
That is craftsmanship at its best. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
This would all have been hand-done. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
All hand-pierced. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
And platinum was very new to this period, 1900. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:09 | |
It came in a French box, a retailer in Rue de la Paix. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
It's not signed. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
I can't find any signatures on it. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
But because it has come in that box, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
I would imagine that it was made in Paris in the 1900s. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
And you've got this echoing of the sort of crescent moon here too, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
which was a very used motif at the time. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
This is the Belle Epoque style. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
In England, it was the garland style | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
and in France in 1900, we call it the Belle Epoque. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
I mean, it is just to die for. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
Absolutely to die for. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
I can't tell you what a pleasure it is to see something like this. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
In the right auction house, this, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
I would imagine at auction would get about £10,000. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
GASPING | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Really? | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
I need to wear it more often. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
What we've got here from a design perspective | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
is a design solution to that age-old problem of what you do | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
to keep your tea hot when it's in the pot. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
But before we begin, before I talk more about it, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
I'd just like to say something about this trolley. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
This tea trolley, which my grandmother had a very similar one. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
So, all of a sudden, it's 40 years ago, I'm back in the dining room, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:28 | |
and I'm admiring the silver plate tea set you sit on the top. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
So I've got to ask you, do you use them? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Very occasionally. We are rather tea-bag-in-mug people. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
I think most people are. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:40 | |
But if we've had friends round, perhaps having an afternoon tea, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
something like that, then I will get them out | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
and we use them and they do really work. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
So, how it works - we've got this outer casing, this shell of chrome, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
which is held down, held in place by a catch. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Lift the outer cover and inside we've got this inner felt lining. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
It's that that insulates it and keeps the liquid warm. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
So you pour in with the kettle, hot water goes in, replace the lid, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
so that's how they work. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Date-wise, we're talking mid-1930s to late 1950s. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
They were a very popular design. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
This design here was the most popular. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
And it was called the Heatmaster. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Made in the Staffordshire potteries for about 20 years, up until | 0:28:21 | 0:28:26 | |
the late 1950s. There were other names that applied to this design. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Staywarm, Everhot, all these sort of very 1930s buzzy names, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:36 | |
that describe what they do. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
Just to give you a kind of general idea. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
I mean, something like this, nice design with the ripple effect, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
that's going to be about, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:44 | |
sort of, £40, £50. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
And we're talking shop prices here, in a retro shop. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
In a vintage shop. The egg cup, we're talking | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
perhaps £10, £15. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
And the trolley, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
probably £40-£50. But lovely things. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
Really lovely things. And they mean a great deal to you. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
Yes. They do. Thank you very much. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
-Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
This oil painting and these two prints depict a particularly large | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
gentleman. He seems to be quite a character. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Where did you first come across him? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
I came across him in Maldon in Essex, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
it's the town that I live in, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
and he was a grocer there in the 1740s. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
And became famous for becoming known as the Fat Man of Maldon. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Right. So this is Edward Bright? | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
It is Edward Bright, yes. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
I mean, he was the fattest man in England, wasn't he? | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
He died in 1750, weighing 44 stones. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-Wow! -He came to Maldon when he was 12 and a half, | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
-and he already weighed 10st 4lb. -Goodness! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
-And he was apprenticed to a grocer in Maldon. -Right. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
By the time he finished his apprenticeship, aged 19, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
he weighed 24st. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
He then opened his own grocer shop. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
He actually fathered six children. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
That's unbelievable in itself, isn't it? | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
It's amazing, yes. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:19 | |
So you've become a kind of obsessive researcher | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
since you found the painting. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
I have done lots of research, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
I actually now do give talks about him | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
because a lot of the local people have been so fascinated by him | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
and his whole story. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Looking at this oil painting, where did it come from? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
The oil painting itself, I bought at an auction. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
And I understand that before that, | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
it had been from the estate of Frederick Fox, | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
who was milliner to the Queen. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
And how have you found these two great prints? | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
The one at the top, of him sitting in the chair, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-belongs to the Bright family. -Right. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
And I've been allowed to borrow it from Bill Bright. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
He is a five times great-grandson of Edward. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
I love this print down here. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
It says, "The surprising bet decided." | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
Can you tell me a little bit more about that? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
This waistcoat had been sent to his tailor to be enlarged just before | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
his death. And after Edward died, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
a lot of the locals got together and had this wager that, first of all, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
if five men resident in Maldon could fit into the waistcoat. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
In fact, seven did. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Goodness! There is a fantastic history about this, isn't there? | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
And what do you think about the painting? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Do you think it's a, kind of, an original? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
Have you questioned who it's by? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
When I bought it at auction, it was sold as being "after Ogborne." | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Now, David Ogborne was a painter from Chelmsford. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
And research has proved that he did paint a picture of Edward Bright. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
And I... Really, the question I'd like to ask is, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
is this by David Ogborne? | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Are we ever going to be able to prove it? | 0:31:54 | 0:31:55 | |
Or is it just a copy? | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
The painting, I believe, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
is a provincial artist copying the print after David Ogborne. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:05 | |
And you'll see, there are differences. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
On the print, you've got two buttons that have sort of opened up through | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
his weight. And on the painting, there's three. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
And his belly is kind of pushing his jacket open. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
But there's a provincial feel about the painting. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
I still think it's contemporary, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
I still think it's an 18th-century painting, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
but because of his popularity and because he was so famous, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
the Ogborne print would have been copied a great deal. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
It would have been a fun thing to do. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
So the oil painting, as much as it is a copy, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
it's a really fabulous provincial copy and it's certainly worth | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
-£2,000-£3,000. -That's wonderful. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
I have to ask the question, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:44 | |
what did you pay for the oil painting a few years ago? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
-I paid, I think, with VAT and the premium... -Yes. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
..it totalled about £470. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
Oh, well, you've done very well. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
Which was below the estimate. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
You've done very, very well. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
And I think certainly from my point of view, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
I'm on salads for the next month. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
Yes. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
Chinese monochromes really are quite fabulous, I think. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
They have this amazing, timeless nature to them. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
-Do you know how old these are? -I don't. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
The best guess we've had is 19th century. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
Best guess is 19th century? What about you? | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
-What do you think? -18th century? | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
So you all think they're old? Amazing. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Cos they look so amazingly modern. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
They're called monochromes because they're all one colour. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
But two of these are porcelain, this one and this one. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
And these other three are more unusual cos they're made in glass. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
They really are lovely. I want to know how you got them. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
My grandfather bought them. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
He was Australian. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
He was Agent-General for Queensland and he lived in London, but | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
he travelled backwards and forwards and he seemed to, on the way, | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
he acquired quite a few really nice antiques, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
and especially quite a few Chinese things. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
The two porcelain vases here are not marked, | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
but the three glass vases, if you turn them upside down, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
they all have a four-character mark of the Emperor Qian Long. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
It reads... | 0:34:07 | 0:34:08 | |
HE READS MARK | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
..which means, "Made in the reign of Qian Long." | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
He reigned from 1736 to 1795. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
So somewhat older than we thought. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
Yeah. They're 250 years old. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
And that's this, this and this. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
-And all three. -And all three of them. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
And what's so nice is this little stand here | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
and this little stand here, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
whether they were exactly contemporary with the vases, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
they are 18th century stands, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
and that's really nice to see that with them. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
The vases here, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
they haven't got imperial marks, they're not imperial porcelains. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
They're very nice things, and again, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
this one dates from the beginning of the 18th century, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
-and so does this one. -Right. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
So they're the best part of 300 years old. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
-300 years old, goodness. -And these, again, look so amazingly modern. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
I love Chinese monochromes. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
I have one or two at home. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
But sadly, mine are all cracked. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
When it comes to the value of these pieces, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
they are quite tricky. Have you had any ideas before? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
No. We tried to get them valued by local valuers, and they didn't know | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
and said they were going to go away and research it, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
but they didn't seem to be able to find anything out. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
Well, they are quite unusual pieces. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
A little vase like this did come up for sale two years ago | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
from the ET Chow collection, and that made a fair sum. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
So, to have a stab at all five of them, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I'm going to try and do this quite quickly. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
-Are you paying attention? -Yes. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
I'm definitely paying attention. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
OK. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Unmarked porcelain, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:44 | |
-1,000. -Right. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Unmarked porcelain, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:47 | |
maybe 5,000. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
THEY GASP | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
OK. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
Qian Long-marked imperial glass vase with a stand, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
20,000. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
Right! | 0:35:56 | 0:35:57 | |
40,000, 40,000. | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
-ALL: Wow! -OK. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
-Amazing. -Wow. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:03 | |
These are the works of art the Chinese really want to own. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
These were made by imperial command. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
You are a very lucky girl. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, my sisters and I, my cousins... | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Don't tell them. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Don't tell them. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
Now, we were talking down here in reception, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
but I brought you up here because I think this story needs telling | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
away from the hullabaloo of the Roadshow. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
How did you come by these? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
My mum was a cleaner in the ministries in Whitehall | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
in the early '80s, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
notably the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:41 | |
She noticed these from the basement. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
They were being practically thrown out. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
She was outraged, so she reported it to a senior civil servant, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
but he said, "Would you like to take those home to keep them safe?" | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
And we've had them ever since. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
And what do you know about him? Who is this? | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
Hedley Nevile Fowler. Squadron Leader Hedley Nevile Fowler. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
And this is him | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
as a young boy. Such a charming photograph. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
-Yes. -And this is a painting of him. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
What a handsome devil he was. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
He was indeed, wasn't he? | 0:37:09 | 0:37:10 | |
And what happened to him? What do you know about him? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Well, we know he was born in London in 1916, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
schooled at Rugby, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
then we think the family relocated to Australia. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
He joined the Royal Australian Air Force in 1936, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
came back to England in '37 attached to the RAF, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
and at the outbreak of war, he was sent to France. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
We know he was then shot down in May of 1940, and taken into captivity. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
He was held in three different camps. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
Finally, at Colditz Castle. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
Colditz, that is a name to chill the heart, isn't it? | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
It is indeed. But he actually successfully escaped from Colditz. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-How did he do that? -He, with two Dutchmen, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
they had the uniforms of Polish engineers. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
And fake papers. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
And they literally, during the roll call of work, walked through the | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
length of the castle, and walked out of the place. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
-And he just walked out of there? -He literally walked out. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
They were nearly thwarted. They got to the very last gate, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
and the counterfeit key they had wouldn't fit. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
They were stood there wondering what to do, whether the game was up, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
and in fact a sentry turned up and apologised and let them through. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
-A German sentry. -A German sentry. -Let them out. -Let them through. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
And what happened to him then? | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
He was posted to the Armament Squadron, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
near Boscombe Down, which was basically as a test pilot. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
And in March of '44, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:30 | |
he had an accident and fell out of the sky | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
and was killed. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:33 | |
What a story! | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-So this is this man's story... -Yes. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
-..and your mum found all this stuff, just being chucked out. -Yes. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
And how can we help you here today? | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
Why have you brought this all to us? | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
I thought to myself, it's not right that this fellow's forgotten, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
or I have it, so I really wanted to put it out there, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
in case someone knows Hedley Fowler, or is related to Hedley Fowler, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
and I'd quite gladly give it over. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
It's possible someone might be watching, and if they are, and | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
they are related to him, you'd like to give this back to them? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Absolutely. I certainly would. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
I would love that to happen. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:09 | |
-Well, I hope it does. -So do I. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
If you know of, or are related to, the family of | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
Squadron leader Hedley Fowler, we'd love to hear from you. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
So often on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
we're thinking about things that are historic and heroic, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
but sometimes it kind of takes a turn for the dark, doesn't it? | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-It does. -Tell us what you've brought. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Well, my great-great-grandfather worked at Broadmoor Hospital | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
from 1873 to 1912 and he was chief attendant, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
so we've brought photographs | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
and a book that he wrote about the patients, and about staff. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
And this is him, standing on the right. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
So we have here a photograph of the relatively new | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Broadmoor Criminal Lunatic Asylum. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
-Yes. -But we should think about what it was really for. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
-I mean, it was for the criminally insane. -Yes. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Mostly murderers, attempted murderers, arsonists, that kind of thing. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
So it's serious, serious crime, just as it is today. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Now, this looks like a photograph of a brass band. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
This is really not what you expect from a lunatic asylum. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
-Yes. -What's going on here? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
Well, they always had patients actually playing in the band, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
up to about 20 at a time. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
My great-great-grandfather was the leader of the band. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
That's him, Charles Bishop Coleman, there. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
This is Jack the Ripper suspect James Kelly, and right next to him is Essex | 0:40:26 | 0:40:31 | |
criminal George Stratton. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
It's a pretty amazing form of occupational therapy, isn't it? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
It is! George Stratton helped James Kelly escape from Broadmoor. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:42 | |
He later committed a terrible crime against one of the attendants, and | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
it meant that he ended his days at Broadmoor. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
James Kelly came back 38 years later. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
He just walked up to the gate and asked to be readmitted, and they | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-readmitted him. -It's so good that he wanted to come back! | 0:40:53 | 0:40:58 | |
He felt the King owed him his living to his death, and that's exactly what | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
-they provided. -Amazing, amazing. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Well, I think it's just incredibly rare to get this sort of inside view | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
of what life was like inside Broadmoor... | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
-Absolutely. -..to have your ancestor's diary recording people coming in... | 0:41:11 | 0:41:17 | |
-Tragic stories, really. -Yes, they are. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
Are there any stories that you find sort of particularly moving in here? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
Well, obviously, the escape of James Kelly is particularly interesting. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:29 | |
There's an awful lot of sad stories in there but there are some amusing | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
ones. There is another one where some patients are actually warbling | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
away in the middle of the night | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
on one of the wards, and they have to be separated because, actually, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
it causes a disturbance. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
I like the idea of noisy neighbours when you're trying to sleep. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Yes, exactly. There's a great story, I think, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
in here about finding a little cache of sheets that had been stashed away | 0:41:50 | 0:41:55 | |
so that somebody could sneak back and turn them into an escape rope. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Absolutely. Yes, yes. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
And I think they hid some clothing as well, because they knew of course | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
that their uniform would be very noticeable outside of Broadmoor's walls. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
It's a sort of reminder that there's a kind of black humour in | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
this quite tragic situation. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
There's quite a bit of gallows humour in that book! | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
-Yes. -The commercial value is almost irrelevant. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
It's got such an important window into social history. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:25 | |
Whether it's | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
£1,000, £2,000... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
We won't part with it, but it's knowing how to look after it all, really, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
so that we, you know, have it for future generations. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
So, my grandmother saved it all for me. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
So I'm very fortunate to have seen it all, really. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
-Well, thank you so much for bringing it. -Thank you. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
Over the years, I've done some recordings with a number of objects in them, | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
but I don't think I've ever done one with quite so many of more or less | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
the same object. What an extraordinary collection. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
How on earth did you come by all these posters? | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
My wife and I, we own a shop in Burnham-on-Crouch. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
Last year, we purchased the building next door and we knew there was a | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
doorway between, an old boarded-up doorway between the two shops. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
When we took the boarding down there were all these... | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
-Have you got a picture of the shop? -Yes, this is the shop. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
That's our original shop, here, and we bought the building next door. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
And there was a concealed doorway between the two. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
And this was just insulation, or packing, or...? | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
It was just rolled up, scrunched up, wedged between two lots of wall. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:30 | |
-How many are there, do you think? -In total, there's just over 100. | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
Some are in fair condition. Some are in atrocious condition. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
Well, I mean, it doesn't take a genius to work out quite what's going on here. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
We have Wednesday August 5th 1914. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
It doesn't say '14, but it is '14. "Britain and Germany at war." | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
It was declared on the 4th, and so, the next day, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:52 | |
this is the terrible news. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:53 | |
And this must have been a day or two before, "Our ultimatum to Germany." | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
And very quickly, the war escalates. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
-Indeed, yes. -And here we are, Friday August 7th, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
so probably the day before, when it happened, "British cruiser sunk, | 0:44:05 | 0:44:10 | |
"131 lost, official." | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
There were casualties straightaway | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
and it was a naval war to start with. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
And so, you know, this is telling us the history of the First World War, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
the early weeks of the First World War, in all these newspaper posters. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
There are stories of spies being shot, Germans being rounded up as spies. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:28 | |
Obviously, if you were a German in the UK, you were suspicious. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
But it happened the other way round, because there's another | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
lovely one which says, "British tourists held as hostages." | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
-That's right, yes. -Well, you know, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
they were going to be putting up with sauerkraut and wieners for... | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
That's a bad holiday experience, that one! | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Extended holidays. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:46 | |
It's an incredibly atmospheric collection, really, isn't it? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
It is. I mean, when I discovered them and started pulling the panelling | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
off, the stench in the air... | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
..of the stale air was quite overwhelming. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
And the hairs on my arms started to prickle when I realised what it was. | 0:45:01 | 0:45:07 | |
So what on earth are they worth? | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
And this is the big question, isn't it? | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
If, archaeologically, you go to the bottom bag in your suitcase, | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
it's a bin bag full of, basically, confetti there, shredded. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:20 | |
So they're not worth very much. So then the second bag is sort of | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
half-decent ones. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:24 | |
And if each of those is worth £10... | 0:45:24 | 0:45:27 | |
-Well, that's £300 to £400 there. -In that bag. -Yeah. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:32 | |
And then the top bag are in, by and large, pretty nice condition. | 0:45:32 | 0:45:36 | |
It's a little bit torn but it's a great one. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
These ones would be worth perhaps £20 or £30 each. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
I'm not great at maths but, having added all those various bags up, | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
you've got about £1,000 worth in all. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
For newspaper wrappings. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
-Exactly, exactly. -Expensive fish and chips! | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
Yes, very expensive and historic fish and chips. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
You'd think, looking at these, that we were in 18th-century Italy. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
They're warm. They're luminous. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
They're absolutely beautiful little pictures. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
But, actually, we're in Ireland, aren't we? | 0:46:08 | 0:46:11 | |
-We are. -Irish views. | 0:46:11 | 0:46:13 | |
-Yes. -He's known as the Irish Claude. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
-OK. -And his name was...? | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
James A O'Connor. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
That's right. And actually, there's a date on one of them, 1839. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
They're very late, because he died only two years later. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
-That's right. -But I just thought they were completely lovely. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
The light in these is almost magical. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
-It is, isn't it? -It's certainly meant to be a divine light. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:35 | |
I'm not quite sure which god, but the point is, | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
there is a very mysterious and mystical light in these pictures, and that's | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
what does it for me. They're incredibly romantic. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
Is that what you saw in them when you first bought them? | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
It was probably the romance of them that attracted me to them. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
I bought them initially because I liked them. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
I thought they were very suitable for where we were living and they were | 0:46:54 | 0:46:58 | |
the kind of pictures that you can hang anywhere in the house. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:00 | |
Well, aren't they? And it's a lovely little pair. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:03 | |
Impossible to understand how he's painted them, they're so clever. | 0:47:03 | 0:47:06 | |
And the luminosity of the light under the trees... | 0:47:06 | 0:47:09 | |
-Yes. -..and the sunset in the distance and the silvery light in this one, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
which actually is rather Irish, isn't it, that one? | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
-It is, isn't it? Yes. -Anyway, lovely, lovely things. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
I don't think I've seen such pretty little pictures all day. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
Anyway, what are we going to put on them? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
What did you pay for them? | 0:47:24 | 0:47:26 | |
-£30. -£30? | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
Well, I think they're worth about £2,000 to £3,000 now for the pair. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
EVERYONE GASPS | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
How lovely! | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:35 | 0:47:36 | |
I'm amazed! | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
Absolutely amazed. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
He's a handsome brute, isn't he? Where did you get it from? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
It belongs to my sister. It was left to her by her deceased husband. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:06 | |
It's been stored away for quite some time. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
I don't really know much about the piece. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
-Yes. -It was bought at an auction quite a few years ago. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:13 | |
-And you don't know how much was paid for it? -Unfortunately not. -OK. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
-Well, I've seen a lot of silver knights of this type. -OK. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:25 | |
I've never, ever seen one as large as this. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
Normally, they're half the size. | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
This is a German one. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
-OK. -But I think it's a post-war copy of an earlier one. | 0:48:33 | 0:48:38 | |
-OK. -But it's still fantastically well made, and let's just have a look, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
and it has this splendid sword that actually comes out of the scabbard. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:48 | |
And it's beautifully made. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
I mean, that's a really terrific blade and of some length. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
It's really a fabulous thing. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
The attention to detail is wonderful. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
We've got this swinging ball and chain, which just gives me the shivers, | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
looking at it. Let's have a look at it in a bit more detail, because it's got | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
this bone carved face here with this fantastic eagle on top, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:12 | |
the suit of armour, beautifully done. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
A lot of the smaller ones were made by a firm called Neresheimer in East Germany. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
This one is made somewhere else. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:25 | |
The marks don't tell me where, but I love it, actually. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:29 | |
I don't normally like these things, but this one is so beautifully made. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
Things like this, even though it's a copy, are quite collected. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:41 | |
I think, you know, one of this size... As I say, | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
I have never seen one before, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:46 | |
so I think it's got to be worth somewhere between £3,000 and £4,000. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
-OK. -Happy with that? -Yeah, absolutely. -I hope your sister is. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:54 | |
-Exactly! -Otherwise she might use that on you! -No, exactly. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
So on this glorious summer's day, you've brought me a Christmas card. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Why do you have this Christmas card? What's so interesting about it? | 0:50:05 | 0:50:08 | |
Well, it's from 1950, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:09 | |
Christmas 1950, and my parents had a number of these printed to send to | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
family and friends, and inside there's an insert... | 0:50:14 | 0:50:17 | |
..with Churchill's speeches. It was soon after the war, of course. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
My dad was in the RAF for six years, and he was quite a fan of Churchill... | 0:50:22 | 0:50:27 | |
-Right. -..and he decided this was a nice thing to do, presumably, and sent | 0:50:27 | 0:50:31 | |
these out to family and friends. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:32 | |
But he sent one to Churchill himself and he had a reply, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
a handwritten reply from the House of Commons, from Churchill. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Churchill was very good at replying, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
often done by a secretary and often done with a sort of standard reply | 0:50:41 | 0:50:47 | |
that was often with a printed signature, but I'm pretty confident | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
that what you've got here is a handwritten letter from Churchill. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:57 | |
It's not always easy to tell, but because it's such a... | 0:50:57 | 0:51:02 | |
-a sort of one-off thing... -Yes. -..I'm pretty sure that it's right. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
-OK. -So, "Thank you so much for your Christmas greetings which have given me | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
"much pleasure," and then signed Winston S Churchill... | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
..and dated, obviously, December 1950. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
So despite the fact that, you know, they're quite... | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
Churchill items are quite common... | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
..I've never seen one of these before. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:28 | |
-OK. -And I doubt that most Churchill collectors have seen this before. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:34 | |
It's in nice condition, it's, you know, as it was. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
-So, you've got two of them. -Two cards, yes. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
And the other one's in good condition, as well? | 0:51:40 | 0:51:43 | |
-Yes, yes. -Well, I reckon that the card itself, to a Churchill collector... | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
I can see them paying somewhere between £100 and £200 for it. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
But with the letter, with the accompanying letter, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
I think you could be looking at £500, £600, £700... | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
-Oh, right. -..for that. So, you know, you may add it all up, you've got, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
you know, another letter, another card back at home. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
-Yes. -You might be getting close to four figures. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
But it's a really nice, unusual piece of Churchilliana. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:10 | |
-Oh, right. -Very sweet. -Yes! Thank you very much. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
I have seen a lot of diamonds, but for me to look twice at a diamond, | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
I have to instantly fall in love with it, and I fell in love with this. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
But before I tell you why I fell in love with it, | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
I want to hear your story. How did you get this? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
Well, it belonged to my husband's grandmother. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
She was the eldest of three sisters and, as I understand it, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:38 | |
each sister received one on her 21st birthday. So, they were born round about | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
the turn of the century, so about 1920s. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
And whereabouts were they? They were...? | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
Primarily in India, with the British Army. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
-Do you know whereabouts in India? -I'm sorry, I don't. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
I'm guessing sort of Shimla and that area, but I don't | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
-really know. -Well, you have mentioned a magic word there, "India". | 0:52:54 | 0:53:01 | |
And, of course, before 1726, all diamonds in the world came from India... | 0:53:01 | 0:53:08 | |
-Oh, right. -..or Borneo. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
And there were alluvial... | 0:53:10 | 0:53:11 | |
alluvial deposits there, so there was no digging, and it was in the | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
Hyderabad mines in Golconda. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
There is something particularly wonderful about a Golconda stone, and, in | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
fact, we now know that it's because it is with no nitrogen in the carbon. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:30 | |
That makes it the purest form of diamonds that you can have. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:34 | |
And when I'm looking at a stone... You've heard of the four Cs, the cut, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:38 | |
the clarity, the colour and the carat weight. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
Well, for me, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:43 | |
there's a fifth C that is equally important, and that's character. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:48 | |
-Right. -And for stones to have character today, it's actually a rarity. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:55 | |
And why this, for me, | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
is making me fall in love with it is because of the way it has been cut. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:03 | |
It has been cut completely by hand. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
On this perfect summer's day, look, if I just move it, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
you can just see the fantastic sparkle that it's creating, and that has | 0:54:09 | 0:54:15 | |
been created by this wonderful craftsman who's cut this diamond | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
back in 1890. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:20 | |
Nowadays, you still do have it cut by man and by the hand, but the | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
technology is so advanced, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
there's so many instruments now and machinery that is now cutting stones, | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
and so they have become quite uniformed, whereas this, you can see the art | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
of the craftsman. We call them cushion cuts, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
old-cut diamonds, but they're going to get rarer. | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
And it's in this wonderful platinum mount. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
Do you enjoy wearing it? | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
I do wear it occasionally but not too often in case something | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
happens to it. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
Well, you know, I think it's just an absolute stunning stone, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:57 | |
I really, really love it. | 0:54:57 | 0:54:59 | |
-Thank you. -And I wish you very well to wear it. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
Do you have an idea of the value at all? | 0:55:02 | 0:55:05 | |
I think once it was suggested that it was sort of 1,000, 1,500. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:09 | |
£1,000, £1,500? | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
-Right. OK. -LAUGHTER | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
Are you ready for this? | 0:55:17 | 0:55:19 | |
Should I sit down? | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
I mean, you know, I haven't taken it out of the mount, and one would need | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
to do more analysis of it for the cut and the clarity and the carat weight, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:30 | |
but I would say, at auction, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
you would be looking in the region of around about | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
£25,000. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
Wow! Thank you! | 0:55:38 | 0:55:41 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
He'll be very pleased when I get home. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:48 | |
And that's what we love to celebrate here on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
exquisite craftsmanship. It's a dying art. | 0:55:56 | 0:56:00 | |
And you could tell that Joey fell in love with that diamond, and who can | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
blame her? From all the Roadshow team here at Audley End, | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
until next time, bye-bye. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 |