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Today, we are revisiting Hanbury Hall | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
near Droitwich in Worcestershire. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
For more than 300 years, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
home to successive generations of the Vernon family. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Today, it's looked after by the National Trust. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
It's an elegant country house in the style of William and Mary, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
surrounded by perfectly symmetrical, formal gardens, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
but not everything is it seems, both outside and within. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:09 | |
Completed in 1708, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
the house was built for Thomas Vernon, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
who made his considerable fortune as a lawyer. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
And he spared no expense when it came to designers and craftsmen. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
Perhaps the most striking feature of the hall is this series of | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
wall paintings all up the grand staircase and on the ceiling. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
It really is art on an epic scale. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Thomas Vernon had amassed a fabulous fortune and then, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
as so often with these grand old houses, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
successive generations did a very good job of spending it all. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
By 1920, Sir George Vernon had to sell off pretty much the | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
entire contents of the house, and pockets of the land as well, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
to settle hefty bills and pay rising taxes. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
And this is just one of many of the sale catalogues. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
So, what you see today are not the original furnishings and fittings, | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
but an interpretation of how the house would have looked. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
This wallpaper was bought as recently as the 1980s. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
These gardens aren't what they seem either. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
One of Thomas Vernon's descendants, Emma, along with her new husband, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
decided they were terribly out of date, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
so they were unceremoniously dug up and replaced with what was then much | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
more fashionable, natural landscaping | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
in the style of Capability Brown. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
So what you see today is, again, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
a recreation of what the original gardens looked like, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
based on 18th-century plans. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The gardens were finally restored as late as the 1990s. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
Let's hope our experts get to see the real thing today | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
as they welcome our visitors. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
This is a lovely object. Tell me what it is. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
I haven't the faintest idea what that is! | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
-Not a clue. -Not a clue. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
We don't have a clue. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
It currently sits on a shelf next to a lava lamp, if that's any help. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
OK, well, it's not a lava lamp, so that limits the ideas. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
I'm going to ask you, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
obviously...you live up here now in the, sort of, Birmingham area. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Where did you live when you got that? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
-Kent. -That's jolly interesting because what you have, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
it's got a title to it, which is a Sussex something. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
Now, obviously Kent borders Sussex | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
and some of these were made in Tunbridge Wells. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Shall I tell you what it is? | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
-Yes. -Did you live in Tunbridge Wells? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
No, no, no. I worked in Sussex for a long time. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
-No, we lived in Sevenoaks. -OK. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
This is a Sussex spice tower. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
THEY GASP | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Really? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
A Sussex spice tower?! | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
But... And I can see why you don't know what it is, because the clues, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
which were all on these little labels here, have worn off. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:55 | |
It would have said, cloves, mace, cinnamon, whatever. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
And, look, when you undo each of these... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
..it's a fabulous, sort of, almost like a construction toy. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
It's a beautiful piece of woodcraft. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Often these were made of Sycamore, and this one, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
probably dating from the early part of the 19th century, so 1820, 1830. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
-Goodness. -It's getting better and better. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
It is getting better and better. Amazing. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
How much is the lava lamp worth? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Well, I think we bought the lava lamp for 9.99. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
-OK. -LAUGHTER | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
Is that £9.99? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
£9.99. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
-Not 999? -No. -OK, so, it's worth a bit more than a lava lamp. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
In this condition - which is missing its titles, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
slightly knocked about inside, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
but it's obviously been used, which is fab - | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
I would put it at around 200 to £300. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
-Oh, my goodness. -You're joking. -Wow. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
That's just amazing. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:55 | |
I wonder, do you think it actually even still smells of spice? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
It might do. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
-It smells of something. -Oh, it does smell of spice. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
-You're right, yes. -There's something there. -Definitely. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
So, there we go. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
We've learned something today - | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
if you don't know what it is, take the lid off and smell it. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
And that'll give you a clue. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
So, what have we got here, then? | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
It's a travelling decanter case | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
that I inherited from my godfather this year. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
The only thing that I know about it is | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-this piece of paper was inside it. -OK. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
This says that on the 17th of October, 1992 - | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
which is what, 23 years ago? - | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
this tantalus, which it isn't, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
was estimated at dating between 1850 and 1860 | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-and a valuation of 1,400 quid. -Apparently. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
So, let's examine that. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
It's not a tantalus. A tantalus is a lockable device. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
It's tantalising. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
It comes from Tantalus, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
who was punished by being thrown into a river, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
and he was crazed with thirst, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
and every time he went to drink the water, the waters pulled back. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
So water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And the tantalus was a locking thing | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
-to keep the servants' thieving mitts off your booze. -OK. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
So, this is a decanter case. You've correctly described it. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
And the date? 1850, I'm sure that's about right. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
If you went to the Great Exhibition in 1851 and you went to one of the | 0:06:23 | 0:06:29 | |
French stands there, of which there were many, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
this is the sort of thing precisely you would have seen | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
at the Great Exhibition in 1851. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
It's really good quality. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
And I'm going to focus on the metal, funnily enough. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
If you look at the casting of that, it is absolutely gorgeous. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
I mean, crisp... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
Er, the gilding on the decanters is super. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
It's completely, apart from some ingrained filth... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
-Thank you. -..it's in really perfect condition. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
There's really nothing wrong with it. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
And there lies the problem, you see. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Why is it in such good nick? Because nobody ever used it! | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-Nobody used it. -Cos nobody ever used it. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
I'm looking at a valuation of 1,400 quid in 1992... | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
..and I'm going to ask you guys... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
..if this was in your house, ladies and gentlemen, would you use this? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
Would you use this at all? What would you do with it? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
You just wouldn't... You would use it, would you, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
-you cheeky little monkey? -LAUGHTER | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
The only one is seven years old, who's going to... | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
I'm not seven years old! I'm five years old! | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
I do beg your pardon! | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Well done, guv! | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
So, look, the irony is that this is worth, today, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
exactly what it was worth 23 years ago. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
It has not moved at all. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
It is just static. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
Because, whilst some people appreciate the fab quality | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
that we're seeing here, it just doesn't fit into modern lives. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
-No. -That's the issue. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
It's a fabulous object that is wanted by very few people, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
which is the reason that relative to its quality, it's dirt cheap. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
Yeah. Well, it's still beautiful. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
-I agree. -Yeah. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:17 | |
We rarely encourage people to bring their whole library | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
to the Antiques Roadshow, it's just too much to deal with, but... | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
when it's a library like this, we'll make an exception. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
It's so cute. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
It's a miniature library. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
It looks like a glazed bookcase, but it's tiny. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
And we open the door, which I can't resist doing, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
and it's full of tiny, miniature books. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-How many have we got? -55. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
55, you've counted them. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
-Yes. -Fantastic. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:48 | |
And what sort of books have we got? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Oh... Well, that's a fairy story, I think, isn't it? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Fairy stories, that one? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:55 | |
-Yes, Cinderella and Other Fairy Tales. -Yes. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
Very nice fairy tale book. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
What about this one? The Thumb Confession Book. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
I don't know about that one. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
I've missed that one out. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:05 | |
But how lovely. Tiny little books that fit in the palm of the hand. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Tiny little books for a 13-year-old girl. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
-A 13-year-old girl? -Well... | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
-Who are we talking about? -We are talking about Beatrice Selfridge, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
daughter of Gordon Selfridge of Selfridges, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
and she was born in 1901, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
and these books were given to her for Christmas in 1914, as it says. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
She's signed every one. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
So, you knew about them as a much younger girl. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Yes. My grandmother had the... | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
She bought the... We have the receipt in here. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
She bought these in... | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
..1949. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
And why did she buy them? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
What attracted her to this little library? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
The Selfridges and my grandparents were great friends. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
They had the shops next door to each other in Oxford Street. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
My grandparents had Penberthy's, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
which was basically gloves by royal appointment, and they were great | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
friends with the Selfridges, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
and obviously Granny saw this in an antiques shop | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and thought, "I'd rather like it." | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
-She couldn't resist? -She couldn't resist. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
-I can completely understand that. -Yes, yeah. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
It's wonderful in many, many ways. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:17 | |
There are collectors of miniature books in my world, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
the world of the book collecting. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
There are people who will want an example of every miniature book | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
ever printed, and they love the individual books themselves, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
-although I would say they're not fantastically rare as books. -No, no. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
These are miniature books that we see occasionally, from time to time, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
and if you'd brought me just a few of the books on their own, I'd say, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
"Well, that's very nice, but probably not terribly valuable." | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
But the fact you have a whole collection of them, 55 of them, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
and they're in this gorgeous bookcase, and the Selfridges. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
I mean, everyone knows the Selfridges all over the world. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
-Yes, yes. -So, if you were a collector of miniature books | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
in America and you knew that... | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
-These were all signed by... -Little Beatrice... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-..little Beatrice... -..Selfridge in 1914... -Yes. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
..you'd really want it, wouldn't you? | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Yeah, I suppose you probably would. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Well, I think it's lovely. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
-It's seen some life, unfortunately, hasn't it? -Yes. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Are you responsible for that? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Probably! As a child, I probably was. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
Yes, exactly. I did use them. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
You know, I really enjoyed it. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
And, in a way, all of that is as nothing. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
It just doesn't matter. What's important here is, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
what we're looking at is just a beautiful object | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
and the fact it has this wonderful provenance | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
-with the Selfridge family. -Yes. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
I think I would stick my neck out and say probably 1,500 to £2,000. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
Good. Thank you very much. I'm not going to sell it. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
One of our visitors has brought in an object | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
that's got our experts rather foxed. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
So, here it is. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Any ideas? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
When I look at these, I think of... the spirit of the 1920s. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:04 | |
-Jazz, energy, Hollywood. -Yeah. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
What do you think of? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
They are quite theatrical, I think. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
What about now? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
Any clearer? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
It has a really great action, look, if we operate it. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
It mechanically chugs up and down the string... | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
and you can vary the speed, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:23 | |
depending on how fast and how hard you pull it. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
What about if I added this? | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
Now what do you think? | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
They were made in the 1920s, 1930s... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
-..by Joseph Lorenzl, but, as a group, worth £2,000. -OK. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
What if I added this? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Still not sure? | 0:12:50 | 0:12:51 | |
So, I think this one is going to be more or less £2-300. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-Fantastic. -Great little things. Thank you. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Maybe the final piece tells you all you need to know? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
-Anyone? -Spices. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
Spices. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
-Church. -Something to do with the church? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-Fondue. -Fondue?! | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Well, the truth is... we don't really know. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
I've shown it to almost all of our experts here. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
Hilary Kay thought maybe sewing accessories. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
Spice is a possibility. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Salt, pepper and nutmeg. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
And Eric Knowles said it was a TOP. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
A thing of purpose. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
A little birdie has told me | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
that you've actually made quite a journey to get here today. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Absolutely. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
We left home at 4:30 yesterday morning | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
from the West Coast of Ireland to come here. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
I'm a huge fan of the show. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
I've been watching it for donkey's years. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
My children do not come near me on Sunday night. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
Yeah, so, we've been travelling since yesterday to get here. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
And why this year particularly? | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Well, it's my 60th birthday this year. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
I don't believe you for one moment! | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-I've never seen such a young 60-year-old. -Thank you. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
She does not look 60. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
Thank you. The gift is a 60th birthday gift, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
and my son's godfather, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:16 | |
who lives in Jamaica Plain in Boston, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
gave me this cos he knows that I like unusual jewellery, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
but I don't really know much about it. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Well, the jewels date from around late 19th century, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
-so about 1880, 1890. -Oh, really? I didn't know it was that old. Yeah. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
And this is when you had people going off round Europe | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-on the grand tour... -OK. -..and they would collect souvenirs, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
and this is a wonderful example of a souvenir from a trip like that | 0:14:41 | 0:14:48 | |
and this is what's called Roman mosaic. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
-Oh, mosaic. -Sometimes you also hear micromosaic, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
but it was made in Rome. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
This is quite brash. It's quite colourful. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Yeah, particularly the wings of the top insect there. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
They're very colourful. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:03 | |
Also, that's really interesting that you point out the bugs, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-because, during this period, the Victorians loved bugs. -Did they? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
-OK! -Well, they are like a jewel themselves. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
They would wear a lot of beetle wings and... You know, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
so the fact that they were depicting insects and beetles in jewellery | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
was, again, sort of, you know, they were inspired by that. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
-It's in silver-gilt, so it's not gold. -OK. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
This would have been worn as a pendant and, of course, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
these wonderful drop earrings. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
-Fabulous earrings. -They're gorgeous. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
And in fact, you're going to wear this, I hope? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
I intend to, yeah, I do. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
Because it is silver-gilt, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
it is sort of made for the tourist industry. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
It's not, erm... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
-it's not something that's going to... -Fabulously wealthy or... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-But then, that's not what it's about, is it? -No, it's a gift. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
And the fact that this started off life in 1880 in Italy, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
-it's found its way over to America... -And back to Ireland. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
..back to Ireland... | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
And here in Britain! | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
I think that's just a fabulous journey! | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
It's wonderful, for my 60th birthday, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
to actually hear what it's about, so thank you so much. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
Oh, well, at auction, if you were to put this in a sale, you know, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:14 | |
-it might get £3-500, but it's not about that. -No. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
It's about the journey of the jewel and its continued journey with you. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:23 | |
Great. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
You like? You don't like? | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
-Like. -Like? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
-Yes. -OK, how long have you liked it for? | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
I've liked it ever since I've known it. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
My parents had it for their wedding in 1936 | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
and I've absolutely loved it cos I love the feel of it. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
You know, it's just beautiful. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
The colour is right and the feel is lovely. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
I've no idea what it is, but I love it. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
I tell you, I was the first person to take these things seriously | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-as an auctioneer in the early -'70s. Right. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
Nobody liked this stuff. It was just dismissed. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
But it seemed to me that it was such fantastic quality... | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
-Hmm, yes. -..and there was so much meaning in what was going on, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:13 | |
and blow me, they were marked on the bottom. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
I know, and I don't know what the marks mean at all. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
OK, well, let's have a look. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
That's the right way up. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
Erm... | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
We've got on here a Shimazu mon. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
That's one of the princely families of Japan. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
And in the area was the Satsuma factory. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:39 | |
I did wonder, because of the... | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
Are they chrysanthemums on there? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
-Or not? -When we turn it up, we'll have a look. -OK. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
We've got "Dai Ni Hon" - "great Japan". | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Right. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
We've got "Satsuma" - | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Satsuma, they've abbreviated the mark. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
It's a more complicated character than that. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
And then "Niyaki", which is "fired" or "kiln". | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
We've got white dragons. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
-Yes. -Dragons in... in Europe are bad news. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
They come and eat you, we lock the city down. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
In Japan, or in China as well, they are good news. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-Right. -And they are always associated with water, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
so this white dragon is over the water. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
Yes. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:26 | |
-They bring food, they bring harvests... -Right. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
..because they bring the rains. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
-Hence the water. -Oh, I see. Hence the water. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
And they often fly about in the sky and bring the rain down. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
We've also got various panels of flowers, as you rightly say, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
chrysanthemums, we've got peony, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
we've got... There's your chrysanthemums. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
And we've got lilies. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
A great pot. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
-I love it. -Whether it was made in Satsuma as it says on the bottom, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
I don't know. I have my doubts. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
I'm beginning to suspect that these Satsuma pieces | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
were actually made in Kyoto. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
I'm trying to prove it, but I'm not getting very far, but we'll see. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
Erm... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
I have found dated pieces of this so-called Satsuma. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
I think if they're anything, this is probably about 1870. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
The interesting thing about these is that in the early '70s, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
I would have got... | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
..3,000 for that pot. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
-Not now. -What's happened to the Japanese market? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
Yeah, afraid you're right, afraid you're right. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
You could buy that today for £800-1,200. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
Right. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
-It will go up. -Yes. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
When, I can't tell you. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-Hang on to it, because you love it. -I would anyway. I love it, yes. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
-Absolutely. -Thank you very much for bringing it in. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Thank you very much. I now know what it is. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
-I never did before. -Good. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
The size is just ridiculous, isn't it? | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
-They say size is everything, but... -SHE LAUGHS | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
-Where did you get it from? -Well, he came into my family in 1957. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
He belonged, originally, to a German lady | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
who was a very close friend of my grandmother's. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
When she died, my grandfather went up to the house | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and her adopted son was just about to throw him on a bonfire. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
-Erm, originally, he was one of a pair. -Oh! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
There was a bear that was a similar size and they stood either side | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
of this lady's front door. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
My grandfather managed to rescue the owl but we're pretty sure that the | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-bear succumbed to the flames, I'm afraid. -Wow. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
And what about the owl? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
Have you found out... Which country would you say? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
-My guess is Black Forest. -Exactly. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
It's a native softwood to that area, pine or something like that. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
That's what we all associate with Black Forest, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
that sort of souvenirware, for want of a better word. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
I mean, this is great quality. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
You have the hall stands and you have one of this size. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
-And when you say that would have been one of a pair... -Yes. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
..it's just mind-blowing to think one went on the bonfire. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
-The restoration hasn't been great. -No. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
You know, there are bits which are dodgy about it. It's got... | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
er, worm damage. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
All of that can be, sort of, sorted out. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
I think this dates from 1890s, 1900, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and whether it was an exhibition piece in the beginning, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
I think that's possible, or a commissioned piece for... | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Literally a house like this, you'd say, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
"I want a piece that big because my house is so impressive." | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
And this is as good as it gets. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
The bear, sadly, that went on the bonfire, er... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
You know, it's a shame, it does spoil the value. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
The damage will spoil the value. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
But £3-5,000. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
Oh... Right! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
I know it sounds awful, but they burned the right one! | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
Well, we've had many strange glances and some curious guesses | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
as to just what this extraordinary contraption is in front of us. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Now, who did this device and the two cases of stuffed fish | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
originally belong to? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
They belonged to a gentleman called John Henry Hirst, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
who was a Yorkshireman who actually patented | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
this, er, rather unusual fishing rod in 1928. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
-That's John Henry Hirst. -OK. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
Now, he's in First World War uniform and I already had a look at the | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
carp and there's a reference to him having caught these fish in 1915. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:30 | |
He caught them at a place called Ypres, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
which was a flash point of the First World War. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
Of course, two famous battles. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
The first Battle of Ypres | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
and the second Battle of Ypres, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
-which, indeed, was fought during 1915. -Yes. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
But what on earth was this man, enjoying himself fishing | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
when he should have been at the front with the other lads? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
He was actually at the front | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
and because he was such an obsessive and very skilful angler, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
he was excused all other duties, which enabled him... | 0:22:58 | 0:23:03 | |
-Really? -It enabled him to catch fish for the men to eat. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Fantastic. A bit of fresh meat, a bit of protein, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
which would have raised morale. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
-Absolutely. -And indeed, he was sat there fishing as missiles, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
shells blew over his head, exploding not far away. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I mean, the guts of the man. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I mean, this is true British grit and eccentricity, isn't it? | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
I think you've hit the nail on the head with "eccentricity"! | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
But, yes, he was an obsessive and very, very skilful angler. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Sure, sure. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
Of course, he sent the two carp back to London from the Western front | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
to be actually stuffed. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
And, in fact, they're labelled "John Cooper and Sons", | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
who's one of the most famous historical fish taxidermists | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
of all time. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
The firm was established in the early part of the 19th century | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
and became famous for its fish, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
and to have two provenance carp from the First World War | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
is a quite exceptional. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
After the war, | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
he obviously took fishing even more seriously and came up with this. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
He did indeed. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:11 | |
He was a match angler and he had a theory that he needed to | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
-be further out from the bank than his competitors... -OK. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
..so he produced this very long, very sturdy fishing rod | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
that wouldn't have been available in the materials of the day, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
so this was to give him an advantage in match fishing. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
1928, he patented this particular rod. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
-We have seen photos of him with a similar, but longer, rod. -Oh! | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
So, somewhere out there, there may be another. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
-Can I have a go? -You can have a go, by all means. -OK, have a look. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Yep, here we are. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
Now, there's a bit of a screw thread there, presumably for tensioning. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
-That tensions the rod, absolutely. -Here we go. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Gosh, well, immediately, it's just incredibly light. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
-It is, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:00 | |
And it's made, interestingly, of bamboo and it's painted, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
it looks like aluminium, but bamboo, look. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Fantastic, but, er... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
I feel kingpin here with this! | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
Incredible. So, he would cast | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
and obviously steal a match on his competitors. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
There was an attempt by John Hirst to market them, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
-but his son tells me it wasn't at all successful. -Right. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
But what was successful, of course, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
was his match fishing exploits with this rod. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
He was thought of as almost unbeatable | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
when he had this rod in his hands. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
OK, well, look, the second case of fish | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
is four dace caught with this rod on the south River Tyne, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
and, again, a Cooper case. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
The case of carp with the provenance, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
it's a £1,500-2,500 case of fish, as long as it stays with the rod. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
The dace, probably a little bit less. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
Perhaps 1,000-1,500. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
But the rod, goodness me. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
How do you value something that's never been on the market before? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
I think when it comes to it, I'm going to put... | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
an auction estimate of maybe £3-5,000. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Have you ever been to the railway station at Braintree in Essex? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
No, I haven't. Never. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
Never? And did you know that this was Braintree? | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
I didn't, actually, no. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
I mean, this is just the most extraordinary, brilliant design. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
You really feel the railway station has just been placed | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
in this very simple, green landscape. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
And of course, it's by a real sort of powerhouse, an amazing artist, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Edward Bawden, who was one of the great designers, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
illustrators and artists from the 20th century. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Tell me, where did it come from? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
It was actually given to my parents as a wedding present in 1961, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:48 | |
which is the same date on the actual label | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
on the reverse of the painting. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
There is a Zwemmer Galleries label on the back, and what's interesting | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
about that is that Zwemmer Galleries had a great relationship with Bawden | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
and gave him his first major show in 1934. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Right. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:06 | |
So, here we have what seems to be a very simple design but, of course, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
it's actually very, very sophisticated, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
and he's really focused on the architecture of the railway station. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
This is a very modern image from 1961 | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
and, of course, you're looking at a diesel train. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Hardly any human element to this print at all, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
apart from the rather humorous driver in the front. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
And the diesel train would be replacing steam, of course, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
so it would be very much a modern statement from Bawden. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
He would have known this railway station | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
because when he was a student | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
going down to Liverpool Street train station from Braintree as a student, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
he would use the station a great deal. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
So, have you done your own research? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
Do you know anything about Edward Bawden? | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
I did actually look it up on the internet, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
where I actually found a picture exactly like this. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
I took the picture down and had a look on the back | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
and it actually said number one, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
as though the first purchaser, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
and that's when I found out it was by Edward Bawden. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
So, apart from being a great designer, water-colourist, painter, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
he was also a brilliant printer and this is a linocut print | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
and these sorts of prints have become very, very popular, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
and the artists would cut out the design with a sharp implement, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
and on the surfaces that haven't been carved out, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
ink would be applied and then the paper would be pressed against that, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and in some instances, artists would use several pieces of linoleum | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
to make this design. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
Of course, you're only really looking at three or four colours. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
We come to value. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
Now, value's quite complicated with this print | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
because a print like this should be signed. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Now, we're not going to take this print out of its frame, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
purely because the paper is touching the glass, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
-so there's a further journey with this picture. -Yes. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
Without a signature, it's certainly worth £2-3,000. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
Nice. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:01 | |
Now, if a conservator can put that right | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
and not damage the surface of the print and take it out easily, | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
and, on the lower right-hand corner or lower left, | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
there is a signature by Bawden, | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
then it's worth three or four times that. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
It's worth £6-8,000, possibly even £7-10,000. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
You know, you've got the Zwemmer Galleries provenance, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
you've got a fantastic image by a great British design | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
from the 20th century. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
I hope that we can prove that there's a signature under there - | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
there should be - and that it's not trimmed, | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
and then it can be conserved, and then it will be a perfect story. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
That's nice to know. Thank you very much. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
Now, I imagine that this is going to tell us something. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
-Can you tell us who these people are? -Yes. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
It's my dad's family. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:47 | |
The baby with the wondrous bonnet is my dad, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
erm, with his sister, mother and father. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
That was 1905, because my dad was born early 1905. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
The belt has come, I think, from her via mum and dad. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
It's very small, so I think it had probably belonged to her, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
his mother, Harriet. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
And this is Harriet in the photograph with the hat on? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
-Yes. -And does she had any connection with China, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
-where this belt comes from? -Not that I'm aware of. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
Where it originated or how she came by it, I have got no idea. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:20 | |
You've already tried, no doubt, to buckle this belt up. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
No chance! | 0:30:24 | 0:30:25 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
I'm not a fat man, but this is not going to be anywhere close. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
I think if we put it on the average hole on this belt, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
you've got a waist of about, I don't know, 18 inches, maybe 20. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
Which is why I thought of her, because an Edwardian lady | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
wouldn't be outside the door without a corset. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
No, she must have pulled her corset pretty tight, I think. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
That's incredibly small. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
This has been made in China in about... Hmm, around about 1900. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
OK, right. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
-It's not something that you can wear these days, clearly. -No. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
-So it's more of a collector's item than a fashion item. -Oh, yes. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
-But its Chinese silver, which is always interesting. -Right. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
It's got a dragon over the front, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
so I think if you went into a shop to go and buy one of those again, | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
it's going to cost you about somewhere between £2-250. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Good gracious! Good heavens above! | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
I'm looking at a mini Austin, an Austin J40 pedal car | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
and we're within about ten miles of the Longbridge factory | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
where the full-size Austins were made. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
I think you worked there, didn't you? | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
-Yes, I did. -But you bought it for your son because of that connection? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
I also bought it because when I was very young, about seven, eight, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
they were introduced and I liked it very much, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
and my parents wouldn't buy it me | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
because I was a little bit too big for it | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
and I was very upset about that, so when I found one nearby for sale, | 0:31:55 | 0:32:00 | |
I bought it for my son to make up for me not having one. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
I bet you were the envy of all your mates. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
I was, yeah, and I think my mates had something to do | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
with the condition it's in now, unfortunately! | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
It had a bit of a rough ride, did it? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I think it did, yeah, I think it certainly did, yeah. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
Well, let's talk about the car for a moment because it was this | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
extraordinary visionary, the chairman of Austin, Leonard Lord, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
who knew of the plight of the miners in Southern Wales, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:34 | |
who had... A lot of them had a terrible lung disease | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
from working in the mines, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
and they were looking for alternative employment for them, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
and he set up this company in South Wales to make the J40, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:47 | |
the Junior 40, which was loosely based on the Austin A40, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:51 | |
the Devon, wasn't it? | 0:32:51 | 0:32:52 | |
And that factory in Wales started producing the J40 in 1949 | 0:32:53 | 0:32:59 | |
and had a 22-year-run and went right the way through until 1971, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
so it was second hand, this, then, when you got it? | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
-Yes. -OK. But look under the bonnet. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
I mean, this is just great, isn't it? | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
There's the space there for the battery, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
which would have powered the Lucas headlights and the little horn. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
And then I love this sort of child's version of what they thought an | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
engine might look like with the spark plugs. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
Just great. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
It's missing its little Austin motif off the top. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Coming round to the cockpit here, with the steering wheel, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
you've got all your instruments in the panel, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
the pedals and the handbrake. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
And then, coming down to the boot here, you've actually... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
Oh, a nice bit of carpet in there. That's good. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
But you've actually got the serial number, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
which you probably have seen, which is 31923. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
And that will date it precisely. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
I think just over 30,000 were made in that 22-year-run, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:08 | |
so there are a lot around, but there's still a huge demand. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
I would put the value at around £2,000 for a car. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:17 | |
Wow. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
Gosh. Wow. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Not bad. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:22 | |
Erm... Because it does need a little bit of work to it. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
I want to know if it still works. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
OK, Oscar, give it a go. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:30 | |
One, two, three, in you get. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
-Now, Dad, are you going to give it a push? -I'll give it a push. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Who are you going to aim for? | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
Straight ahead. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:39 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
Cool, kitsch and colourful cats. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
-Exactly, yes. -I take it you're a cat lover? | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
I am, yes. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
He's papier mache and he's china. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
You've spotted the main difference and I'll come to that in a moment. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Well, I came into the tea tent for a cup of tea and I've immediately been | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
distracted because what do I find? I find this fantastic tin-plate toy, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
and I suppose I'm going to have to ask you, does it still work? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Yes, and I can demonstrate it | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
cos I've been running it for the last 24 hours | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
-to make sure it's working! -THEY LAUGH | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
They're by a lady called Joan de Bethel, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
who, with her husband, David, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
set up a company in Rye in Sussex in 1960 to produce papier mache cats. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Now, they might look, sort of, slightly gaudy, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
but, actually, they took up to a day to paint and decorate. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
-OK, so give me a demonstration, then. -Will do. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
WHIRRING | 0:35:34 | 0:35:35 | |
-Yes! -HE LAUGHS | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
That is brilliant. I love the way he gets on and off. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
These are really quite sought-after, particularly in papier mache. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
They were only produced for a limited period, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
they were quite expensive and they're quite sought-after. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
There's a good collectors' market for these. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:56 | |
You're probably looking at around... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-I suppose around £80-120, maybe, for the ceramic one... -Hm. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
-..and probably £250-ish for the papier mache one. -Oh, right. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
I think if you were going to put that into a good toy sale, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
you would get £4-500 for that. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
-Never! -Absolutely. Absolutely. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
-You're joking. No. -You're not going to though, are you? | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
Oh, no! No, no, absolutely not, no! | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Even my son hasn't played with this! | 0:36:25 | 0:36:26 | |
-Oh, really? -I won't let him! | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
I know what those things are. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
What I don't know is, why are they cut to different lengths | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
and, to be absolutely honest, what is it? | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
They are German cartridges, as far as I know, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
which were made by a German soldier in the trenches | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
in the First World War. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
When we made one of our pushes to push them out of their trenches, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
he left them behind. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
My grandfather jumped in the trench, saw them there - | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
I presume they were hanging on a piece of string along the wall - | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
cut them down, put them in his kitbag, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
and bought them home for his son and two daughters. And here they are. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
Do you know what those things are? You say they're shells. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
-No, that's why I'm here. -OK, those are, technical fact, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
37 millimetre quick firer. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
Fires a one-pound projectile. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Germans used them. We used a similar thing, a pom-pom. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
But I still want to know why they've been cut to different lengths, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
cos that doesn't seem to make any sense. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
Well, it's entertainment value. He was bored. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
He was sometimes in the trenches for weeks, I'm told, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
and you can play a tune on them. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
You can play a tune on them? | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
-I can play a tune on them. -Go on, then. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:43 | |
I don't believe a word of this, but go on, play a tune for me. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
HE PLAYS DO-RE-MI | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
It's a great thing and I love the story. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:09 | |
One little interesting thing - those are all German shells, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
but it's held together there and at the other end, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
those two projectiles are British 303 ones. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Looking at it, I'm desperately racking my mind, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
trying to put a value on it. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
Erm... | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
For a musical instrument, it's about 30p. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Erm... | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
I would think something like that, because it's First World War, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
it's trench art, it's got a fantastic story to it. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
It's not a vast amount, I would have thought, perhaps, £200, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
but it's brilliant and your musical skills are just phenomenal. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
Thank you. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:45 | |
-Well, it's made as a baking dish for cooking on... -Ah! | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
..and it clearly has had a lot of use! | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
-WOMAN LAUGHS -How do you use it at home? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
I just have it on the coffee table full of cones or goods. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
I've been looking at it and trying to work out what way up is it? | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
Has it got a top or bottom? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
I don't know. It's like a child's painting, isn't it? | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
It's awfully childlike, isn't it? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
And that's what slipware was all about, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
a type of very basic pottery, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
made all over the country, all over Britain. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Probably, this wasn't made that far away. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
It could be a Midlands piece. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
It could have been made in Worcestershire or in Staffordshire. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
And the design just done by dribbling on | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
one colour clay onto another. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Sometimes, these dishes, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:31 | |
when they have little, fingered shapes like that, | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
are said to be related to glovers or gloving. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
Sometimes you get... It's meant to be a little hand or a glove. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
That seems to be a design you sometimes find on these dishes. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
That would fit with Worcester. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
It's a big area for glove-making, isn't it? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
So maybe it was always used there. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
But, but you're local. Has this always been in the family? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
Yes, I inherited it when my grandmother died. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
She would be about 100 now, if she was still alive, so. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
Dating these is terribly difficult because they are such basic objects, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
but looking at the appearance, we've got to be several hundred years old. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
I think we're going back to perhaps the middle of the 18th century, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
1750 or something like that. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
-Wow. -It's got a bit bashed and worn around the edges, | 0:40:19 | 0:40:24 | |
but it's still, inherently, a great object. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
I love it, yeah. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:29 | |
And slipware is always expensive, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
so even rubbed, even bashed and knocked around, erm, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
it's still going to be £2,000. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:40:41 | 0:40:42 | |
Oh, wow. Gosh. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Thank you. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
Whenever I see a little Morocco case like this, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
I know there's going to be something pretty exquisite inside it, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
but I can also see that this is annotated. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
There's a name on the front, there. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
I can't quite read it and it's dated 1906. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
What does the name say? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
That's the name of my great-great grandfather, Ioannis Peridis. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Right, OK, we'll come back to that in a second, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
but let's open the case up, | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
and what we have inside is a really, absolutely exquisite-looking medal. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
Now, I know that that medal pertains to the date on the front of it and | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
this is actually a 1906 silver Olympic medal, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:20 | |
so I'm assuming that your great-great grandfather | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
won this medal at the 1906 Greek Olympics? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
-He did, yeah. -He did? That's absolutely amazing. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
How fabulous is that? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
What event did he win this silver medal for? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
-It was single trap shooting. -Single trap shooting. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
OK. One of the problems with the Greek Olympic Games in 1906 | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
is that was what was called an Intercalated Games. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
It was kind of inserted and wasn't strictly official in that sense. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:47 | |
It then subsequently became unrecognised | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
as an official Olympics. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
So, basically, the International Olympics Committee | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
doesn't recognise the medals from this Games. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
-Strange, eh? -Yeah. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
-What did you know about him? -Not a lot, really. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
I mean, it's been in the family for over 100 years, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
sitting in a cupboard, really, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
and I just thought, since it's passed down to me, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
I really want to, you know, bring it back to this proud state | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
that it should be in and I'm very, very proud of him, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
that he did get to compete, let alone win a silver medal. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
Yes, well, I'm glad you feel like that about it | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
because it is something to be proud of, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
you know, one of your ancestors obviously competed in one of the | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
-greatest Games in history. -Absolutely. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:29 | |
I have to say, I would be really chuffed to own something like this. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
You know, in many ways, it's kind of almost... I don't know, | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
I don't really want to talk about value in some ways | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
cos you can't attach a value to that, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
that kind of sentiment, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
but - I will be honest with you - | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
these are very, very sought-after and very, very collectable. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
If this were to come up in a good sporting sale at auction, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
this could make as much as £3,000. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Wow. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
It's a nice thing. It's a really lovely thing and quite rightly, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:00 | |
you should be very proud of it. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
I mean, I am. I mean, that's... | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
I couldn't put a price on it myself and I was never really thinking | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
of selling it at all. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
This is very much, in my mind, priceless to me. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
So, a tusk with a tail. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
-It is indeed. -This extraordinarily long tusk. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
How on earth did it get to the Roadshow, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
let alone into your possession? | 0:43:23 | 0:43:25 | |
Well, it came in my old Saab, literally! | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
-It belonged to a customer of my husband's... -Right. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
..who became very ill, retired, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
and he used to go and see him until he died. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:37 | |
And then his sister gave that to Duncan | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
as a thank-you for going to see him. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
So, the gentleman who gifted it, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
was he out in the Arctic waters | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
where this tusk would once have belonged | 0:43:50 | 0:43:53 | |
to a great whale called the narwhal? | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
Yes, I was told he was an Arctic explorer in his youth, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
then he became a builder and decorator or whatever. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
So the original explorer would have been out there, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
perhaps in 1910? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
I should think so. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:08 | |
-Probably around them. -Yeah. -But now I understand it belongs to you. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
-It certainly does. -So you have a passion for natural history? | 0:44:12 | 0:44:15 | |
I've always loved natural history. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:17 | |
My stepfather came home one day with this and said, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
"I bet you don't know what that is." | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
And I said, "Well, it's in a narwhal tusk", and he was so staggered. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
That's why she's got it now! | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
So he's left it to me. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
Well, you lucky thing, because it's a magnificent narwhal tusk. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
I'll be honest, it's the longest narwhal tusk | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
I have ever come across. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
And this, indeed, erupted | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
from the lips of male narwhals | 0:44:41 | 0:44:45 | |
and they can grow, really, up to about ten feet long. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:51 | |
This is nearly ten feet long. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:54 | |
-And because it's covered in enamel, it's just a huge tooth... -Mm-hm. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
..it acquires this lovely patina and, of course, the tusk spirals. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:04 | |
Indeed, back in the 16th century, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
-they thought these were the horns of unicorns... -Yes. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
..and that had come from centuries before. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
-Looks just like it, doesn't it? -Well, it does, yeah. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
Now, there are laws governing the sale of narwhal tusks | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
because it is a near-threatened whale, | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
so it would need a Cites license. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
To prove, basically, that it's before 1975, | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
because it's such a good large one, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
I think at auction you could expect between £15-25,000. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
-Goodness me. -Good lord! That much?! | 0:45:35 | 0:45:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
So look after your tusk! | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
-We will. -Absolutely, we shall. -Clean it regularly. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Two small girls in this photograph. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
Yes. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
Who are they? | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
This one on the right is Violette Szabo as a child. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:58 | |
This one on the left is a lady that was a good friend of mine, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
who was Vera Maidment - that was her maiden name - | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
and she... In turn, they were lifelong friends. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
And we know Violette | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
because Violette is one of our heroines of this country, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
SOE operative, went to France, fought behind enemy lines... | 0:46:15 | 0:46:21 | |
That's right. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
..was killed at the very end of World War II | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
in one of the infamous concentration camps | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
and she won the highest award that, er...not even as a civilian, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:32 | |
-but a non-combatant can win, the George Cross. -That's right. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
But this little lady had another job in Violette's life, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
-didn't she? -She did. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:42 | |
When Violette went off to do her missions, | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
she looked after Violette's little daughter, Tania. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
And she... Violette asked her if, in the event of her death, | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
she would become guardian to Tania. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
You see, that's just a dreadful thing to have to do, isn't it? | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
To actually set off on a mission and actually know | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
-that you're not going to come home. -That's right. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:06 | |
But she had the foresight to leave her most treasured possession, | 0:47:06 | 0:47:10 | |
her little girl, to her best friend. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
And then we have this wonderful photograph | 0:47:13 | 0:47:15 | |
of the beautiful Violette, signed to Vera | 0:47:15 | 0:47:19 | |
and dated January 1944. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
One year before she was killed in the concentration camp. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
I would think that... | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
..you would have to say, for the two photographs, £500. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:36 | |
Gosh. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:37 | |
-Thank you very much. -It's a pleasure. Wonderful. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
-Thank you. Lovely. -And what a gorgeous-looking lady. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
-Yes. -Wasn't she beautiful? -Very beautiful. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
So how many years has this lady been lodging with your family? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:54 | |
Er, I can't give you a precise number of years, | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
-but it used to belong to my grandparents... -Mm-hm. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
..maybe my great-grandparents. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:03 | |
So they would have purchased it back in the what? | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
The 1930s, maybe? | 0:48:07 | 0:48:08 | |
-Yes, I would think so. -Right, OK. -Yes. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
We are looking at a woman who represents an age, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:18 | |
-and that age is the interwar years. -Right. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
And we're looking at the emancipated woman. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
She's holding a bow and it may well be that she is a friend | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
of Diana the Huntress. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:32 | |
She has got that Amazonian look to her. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
She's stood with a very assertive posture, | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
so this is a woman that, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
not only does she go out doing her own archery, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
she probably, you know, is driving her own car. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
She may be even flying a Tiger Moth. | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:48:48 | 0:48:49 | |
And she's built for speed. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:51 | |
She's got this wonderful athletic body and this was the age of... | 0:48:52 | 0:48:58 | |
"Stay young and beautiful if you want to be loved." | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
They were the sort of things that you wouldn't actually buy | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
in an art gallery, as such. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
You'd buy them at jewellers' shops or if you were playing golf | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
at Gleneagles, you might have bought one in the shop there. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
They were seen as art objects. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
So, what's the family view on this? | 0:49:18 | 0:49:20 | |
I mean, is this something that's revered | 0:49:20 | 0:49:24 | |
or is it something that's just there in the corner? | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
Well, both, I suppose. Erm... | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
I mean, I've had it for the last 15 years. | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
It does take pride of place, actually, in the sitting room. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
-She is liked. -It's by a bay window. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:37 | |
Well, she is nigh on near as good as the day she was made. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
I'll tell you just a couple of things that are missing. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
-Yeah. -And that... | 0:49:43 | 0:49:44 | |
and that is that the cheeks would normally be slightly rouged | 0:49:44 | 0:49:48 | |
and the eyes would be painted in and sometimes you get the girls | 0:49:48 | 0:49:52 | |
with dangly earrings as well, | 0:49:52 | 0:49:53 | |
and it's a bit like a Petrushka-type character. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
You know, you think they're going to talk to you any minute. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Erm... What about the maker? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
What's the name you've come up with? | 0:50:00 | 0:50:02 | |
-Preiss is the name that I've seen... -Yes. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
-..at different antique fairs... -Right. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
..and I thought she might be similar. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
-Ferdinand Preiss. -Oh, right. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
Ferdinand Pre... | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
Well, I know she is definitely Ferdinand Preiss | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
because I've seen the signature on her. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
-Oh! -Oh, right. -Right. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
That was, erm, through your monocle? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
You don't know she's signed at all? | 0:50:23 | 0:50:25 | |
-No! -Oh, right, so you've been living with her for all these years... | 0:50:25 | 0:50:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:50:28 | 0:50:29 | |
OK, well, if... I'm going to turn her around very quickly | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
because we will see on this plinth, the name F Preiss. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:38 | |
-It's inscribed... -I've never seen that before. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
..into the black Belgian slate. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
So, Ferdinand Preiss, | 0:50:42 | 0:50:44 | |
he's in partnership with a man called Kassler | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
and sometimes you get the PK monogram | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
on the back of a piece for the foundry mark. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
They're based in Berlin and they produce | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
a whole range of subject matter. | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
A lot of the figures are quite athletic - | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
tennis players, skiers, skaters. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:07 | |
The thing I like about her is the fact | 0:51:07 | 0:51:09 | |
that she's on this lovely stepped plinth. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:12 | |
-It's an architectural plinth. It just raises the game. -Yes. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
-I think with the way the market is today... -Yep. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:20 | |
..bearing in mind she's in such lovely condition, because, you know, | 0:51:20 | 0:51:24 | |
-just look at the enamelling on her. -Despite a lack of make-up? | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
Despite the lack of rouge, erm, | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
if I told you she was worth... | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
£7,000, would you be pleased? | 0:51:32 | 0:51:34 | |
Yes, I would, yes, of course. Yes. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:36 | |
So, I know that she's worth £10,000, so would you be delighted? | 0:51:36 | 0:51:41 | |
I would be delighted, but I didn't come here with those expectations! | 0:51:41 | 0:51:46 | |
-No? No? -LAUGHTER | 0:51:46 | 0:51:48 | |
Let me ask you, sir, where did they come from? | 0:51:51 | 0:51:55 | |
My wife found them in some buttons in a box of sewing things | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
that she picked up at a local auction. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:02 | |
All right, when did this take place? | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Friday night. About eight o'clock. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
-So, we're talking about a day and a half ago, you bought these. -Yes. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:14 | |
What was special about the box that made your wife buy these? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:19 | |
The ribbons, the cotton reels and the price, I think. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:23 | |
Which was? | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
£2 plus commission. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
-So £2 plus the auction house's premium on top. -Of 26p. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:31 | |
So, in other words, £2.26. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
-Yes, that's correct. -LAUGHTER | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
-That's not very much, is it? -Not a lot, no. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:38 | |
I assume that they didn't even really know | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
that this was in this box, did they? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
-No. -All right. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
First of all, what are they? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
-They are four little buttons. -Mm-hm. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:50 | |
Each of the buttons is pretty, it's very well matched. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:54 | |
You can see it is a set. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
And the surface of each of the disks is covered with enamel decoration. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:02 | |
-Mm-hm. -And if I just pick up one of these and turn it over, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:07 | |
we see that, typically, | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
the back of it is mounted in a rose-coloured metal. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Now, the first thing to say is that this isn't base metal, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
this is gold. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:19 | |
This is 14-carat rose gold. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
So, right away, we are moving up from your £2.26... | 0:53:23 | 0:53:27 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:53:27 | 0:53:28 | |
..to a value which is far, far more dramatic than that, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:32 | |
maybe in the region of 40 or £50, | 0:53:32 | 0:53:36 | |
just because of the fact that they're, you know, gold. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
The little loop, which you can see at the back there, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
do you see that there is a little impression | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
of what looks like a mark? | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
-Yes. -Right. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
On that mark, I see a stamp of the number 56. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:57 | |
Big, important feature, that, because if it's stamp 56, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
-it suggests, to me, that it's Russian. -Mm. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
Gold, and it's Russian. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
Now, on the back as well, there is a little engraved date, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:15 | |
which is the 5th of December, 1904, | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
which means we're talking about something which was Russian, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
made at the start of the 20th century. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
-Are you following me along here? -Oh, yes. -Right. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:54:29 | 0:54:30 | |
The little mark on the back, the little pair of letters... | 0:54:30 | 0:54:35 | |
..is the mark of a goldsmith by the name of August Hollming. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:42 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:43 | |
This man, Hollming, is quite an important man | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
because he used to be one of the principal workmasters | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
for Peter Carl Faberge. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
-CROWD MURMUR -Ooh. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:56 | |
In other words, what you bought for your £2.26... | 0:54:57 | 0:55:03 | |
-LAUGHTER WOMAN: -Oh, my Lord! | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
-My wife bought. -Your wife bought. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
Don't know if you'd have bought it, but your wife bought it. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
..was a set of Faberge gold cufflinks. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:15 | |
I say cufflinks because you could make them into cufflinks... | 0:55:15 | 0:55:19 | |
Indeed, yes. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:20 | |
-..although they are ostensibly four little buttons. -Yes. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
Each of the buttons matching up, | 0:55:24 | 0:55:26 | |
guilloche, which means the engraving underneath the colour | 0:55:26 | 0:55:32 | |
gives a reflection of almost like a secular sunburst or whirling effect, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
-which is a delicious feature of Faberge. -Yes. | 0:55:37 | 0:55:40 | |
One of them is damaged. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
In other words, yes, they are inconsequential. | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
If they were not by Peter Carl Faberge or this man, Hollming, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
they would be worth considerably more than you paid, | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
-but probably no more than £50. -Right. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
But they're not worth £50, are they? | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
-I hope not. -No. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:00 | |
They're going to be worth £1,000-1,500, aren't they? | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
-CROWD GASP -Oh, wow. -Gosh. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
-They've been in the family for 40 hours. -40 hours. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
-APPLAUSE -Thank you. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
Oh, Lord. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
At £1,500, that's more than 600 times what they paid for them. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
Now, one last surprise for Roadshow veteran, David Battie. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
David, I wonder if we could interrupt you just for a second | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
because Christopher Payne's got something | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
that he wanted to show you and get your expert opinion on. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
Can you possibly identify the sitter? | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
Oh, no! | 0:56:44 | 0:56:46 | |
No, I can't help you with that. | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
Oh! | 0:56:49 | 0:56:50 | |
No, I'm sorry. | 0:56:50 | 0:56:51 | |
I've no idea why you brought me that. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
Everyone, who do you think this looks like? | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
CROWD: David! | 0:56:55 | 0:56:56 | |
LAUGHTER AND MURMURING | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
Thanks a bunch(!) | 0:56:59 | 0:57:00 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow, until next time, bye-bye. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 |