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Today we're in Kent, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
at one of the oldest medieval manor houses in the land. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Knights, sheriffs, courtiers, MPs | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
have all been past owners of Ightham Mote | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
over the last 700 years. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
And it's against this magical backdrop | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
that we raise our Antiques Roadshow flag. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Nestled in a valley and encircled by its very own moat, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
this manor house evokes a fairy tale picture of England past, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
though some of it of the rather GRIMM variety. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
Now, every fairy tale worth its salt has a tower. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Though, thankfully, I'm no damsel in distress. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Well, not yet, anyway. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
Rather like Jack's beanstalk, this tower grew and grew. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
You see, the base and the door frame, that's early 14th century. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Windows on the first floor? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Tudor. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
The window on the next floor is Elizabethan, and then the turret, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
well, that's from the Victorian era. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
And some of Ightham Mote's past owners | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
could easily fit into a fairy tale of their own. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Like this beautifully dressed lady, Dame Dorothy Selby, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
who was renowned for her fine needlework. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
But, unlike Sleeping Beauty, when she accidentally pricked herself, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
she didn't fall asleep for 100 years. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:06 | |
Her wound became infected, and, rather grimly, she died, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
without a handsome prince coming to her rescue. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Others have tales of mixing with royalty. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Such as Sir Richard Clement, who was knighted by Henry VIII. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Sir Richard was at Anne Boleyn's coronation, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
and just a few years later, he served on the jury | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
that condemned her to death for high treason. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
But this story does have a fairy tale ending. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
The last owner of Ightham Mote, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
an American called Charles Henry Robinson, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
donated the house to the National Trust back in 1985. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
And they have saved its many layers of history | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
for us and future generations to enjoy. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Now we just need a sprinkling of our own magic, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
which we can leave to our specialists | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
on this week's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Now, I've been doing the Roadshow for just over ten years now, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
and this is the one thing I've always wanted to see. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
I know you're going to think I'm weird, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
but why have you got them? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Well, my dad bought a box of junk at a boot fair, he paid a few pounds, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
and they were in the bottom of the box. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
And what have you found out about them? | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
We know that the... One plate is gold, the springs are gold, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
and the pins that hold the teeth in are gold. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Mm-hmm. Now, you were pretty wealthy if you had a set of teeth like this. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
Like you say, they are in gold, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
and the rare thing about them is they are porcelain teeth. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
And the history of anything like this is fascinating, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
because with teeth, during the 18th century, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
the wealthy obviously had vast amounts of sugar, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
and generally their teeth were rotten. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Their breath stank, and they would lose their teeth, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
and they needed something to sort that out. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
And they tried... I mean, surgeons tried everything, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
from implanting teeth into chicken's heads to see if it would take, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and you would pull out your tooth if you were poor | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
and sell it instantaneously, and they would try and implant it. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
None of that really worked. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
So, when they came up with a set of teeth like this, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
it was the obvious solution. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
Now, these are made of porcelain on a gold background, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
but the earlier ones from the Napoleonic Wars, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
they actually went round, say after the Battle of Waterloo, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
picked up the teeth from all the bodies and corpses, pulled them out, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
and then sold them to make denture sets like this. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
So English people were going around with French teeth in their mouth. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
-LAUGHTER -Fantastic! | 0:04:23 | 0:04:24 | |
So, when porcelain came in... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
This is why I love it. I know it is disgusting and horrible, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
but it's a fascinating history. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Because here... I would say they were, sort of, 1845, 1855 in date. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
-Did you get a date on them? -1850 to 1860. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
OK, so around that sort of period, mid-19th century. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
They're still... The fact that they're porcelain, I love. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
They are, I'm not going to say any jokes like "rare as hens' teeth" | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
or anything like that, but they are incredibly rare. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
And the fact that they're gold, the fact that they're porcelain... | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Er... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
£2,000 to £2,500. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Whoa. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-Wow. -LAUGHTER | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
I'm amazed! | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
-Wow. -So this is a rare survivor, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
which is why I say I've been waiting ten years to see a set. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
-OK. -Thank you very much. -No, you're welcome, thank you. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
On a grey old day like today, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
what a joy it is to see a picture like this. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
In fact, I almost want to jump into the sea here. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
A lovely summer's day on the coast, and it could be by only one artist, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
by the way the children have been painted in this impressionistic way, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
which is Dorothea Sharp. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Have you had this a long time? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Well, we started off with an aunt who bought it originally, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
and then it was passed to my parents, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and then my parents passed it to me about 25 years ago. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Is it a picture you love? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
I thoroughly enjoy it. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
It sits facing me in the sitting room, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
the light on it, and it's just... The shades and the colour... | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
A glorious summer's day. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
Now, I have here the label from the back, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and I know quite a lot about dear old Dorothea. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
She used to paint... Well, she lived in London, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
and she came from quite a wealthy family, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
and she did a sort of tour in the summer around Chichester, Cornwall, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
back to London. She also went abroad. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
And this one is painted in Saint-Malo, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
and it's the first time I've seen a picture by her in Saint-Malo. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
What I can say about Dorothea, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
she didn't have any children, she never married. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
And I often find this with female painters rather than male painters - | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
they can actually paint children better than men. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
They've got some affinity. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
And these young girls, here, and the boys, it's just fantastic, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
and it's so sensitively done. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Now, you say your aunt bought it. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
Looking at this label, I think she must have bought this in the 1920s. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
I know this because I think this is Dorothea Sharp's best period. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
You know, I love the picture, it's got everything going... | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
This little girl dragging the teddy bear through the water. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
I mean, it's all about youth. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
And it's just beautiful, absolutely beautiful. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
-And you love it? -I thoroughly enjoy it, yes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Well, I just see on here that we've got the price that was paid for it | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
at the Royal Institute of Oil Painters - £35. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:18 | |
So what is that today going to be worth? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
Well, Dorothea Sharp really is back in fashion, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
and people love this sort of picture, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
cos it's impressionistic, it's loose, it's got a nice feel to it. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
And I think, if this came up for auction, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
it would make somewhere in the region... | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
of £25,000 to £35,000. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
That's very nice. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I think the children will love that idea! | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
Well, I hope they hold on to it! | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
-Yes! -I certainly would! | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
One of the most wonderful things about the Antiques Roadshow | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
is that you see things that you hope to find, and this is one of them. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
It's such an unusual piece. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Tell me, where did you get it from? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
I've inherited it from my godmother, about two years ago, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
but I've known it for about 40 years. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
It's just great. I mean, we know what it does, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
but let me just show the front here. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
This wonderful embossed leather, sort of Japanese aesthetic style, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
that helps me date it, possibly 1880, 1890, something like that, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
late 19th century. A little matching stool, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
which is incredible to have that with it. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
That really is a one-off. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
And these wonderful brass rods here, which articulate. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
So let's just show everybody, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
cos we've cheated and we know what it does. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Open it up... | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
But look at the inside, it's just fantastic. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
We can see now clearly, it's used as an easel, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
but it's actually a writing desk. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
Do you use it at home? | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Yeah, I've just begun to use it, but we have it in the main living room, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
and it's normally closed, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
and when people come in they often ask about it, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
and then I can open it up and reveal the inside. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
They want to see inside, OK. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
But just look at the inside. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
-Firstly, have you identified the view? -No. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
Because I've tried to in the few minutes I've had, but I can't. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Is it French, is it German? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Probably not Swiss. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
Someone, someone out there can probably identify that view for us, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
it would be very interesting. It looks like a print, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
but it's very beautifully done, obviously, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
I'm sure from a famous painting. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
And all this lovely mahogany framework. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
So we've got stationery compartments, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
a little articulated thing there. This is for pens, I suppose. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
-And anything in here? -Yes. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
-Oh, look. -And the same the other side. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Oh, in here? | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
So these are hunting, a saddle, and then this is a dog. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
That's rather fortuitous, look. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
A horseshoe, and I'm wearing a horseshoe tie. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
That's serendipity for you! | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
What I love to see is... Imagine how it was used originally. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
You know, what context was it used in? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
Was it used in a home, like you're now using it? As a revered piece? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Was it used... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Somehow, I think a hotel, perhaps? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
Can you see it in the reception of a big grand hotel, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-somewhere on the lakes in Switzerland? The Alps? -Maybe. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I don't know. You can see it's been well-used. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
This is the original velvet, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
and it's been used a lot, for many, many years. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
And this is an expensive piece of furniture to make. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
We'll probably never find out exactly who made it or how much, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
but it would have been expensive, certainly. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
So 1880s. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
I think it's French. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
I was hesitating between French and German. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
The clock, or timepiece, because it doesn't strike, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
is a French-made timepiece. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
So let's say French, 1880s, in this wonderful mixture of styles, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
aesthetic style, Moorish, very eclectic, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
typical of the late 19th century. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
The stool is great, just to have that together. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
So, value. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
-Have you had it valued? -No. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Not at all? So you're going to have to leave me to do the valuation. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Very, very difficult, cps it's getting on for unique. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
Nothing's ever unique, but... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
I doubt I'll ever see another one in my career. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
In a shop? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
Minimum of £4,000. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
-That sounds good. -It's irrelevant, the value, isn't it? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
But what a great piece of furniture. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
I love it, thank you. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
I love the juxtaposition of this. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
I love the fact you've got ballroom dancing | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
going on inside a television. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
For me, it just sums up retro and vintage. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Certainly in a shop, they'd ask for £350. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
-A very nice thing to be given. -Yeah! | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
Well, he hasn't given it to me, I've got to take it back to him! | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
So this was kind of like the Woolies version of Lalique! | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
So instead up being worth a thousand quid, it's worth 80. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
But it's jolly pretty, and if this were lying around, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
any of us would be pleased to nick it, wouldn't we? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:43 | 0:11:44 | |
Well, a wonderful cameo necklace, meticulous craftsmanship. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
But tell me about it with you. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Well, originally this came into my wife's possession in the '60s. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
I'm not quite sure how she got hold of it. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And I know not a lot about it at all. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-And that's why you've brought it, of course. -Absolutely. -Absolutely. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
Well, we can date it, fairly conveniently. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
It's from the very early 19th century, sort of 1820, 1840. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
And, the jeweller's work is undoubtedly English, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
but the cameos probably come from the Mediterranean countries, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
perhaps even from Naples, the great centre for shell cameos. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
And people went there to enjoy classical antiquity. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
They went to Rome, to Naples, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
and then bring it back to the cold and damp England, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
as a sort of souvenir. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
And the recipient of this would have understood it on many levels. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The first thing about a gift of jewellery | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
is that it's often a gift of love, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
but the message is written plain here. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Every one of them is a reference to love, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
and it's sort of covert, in a way, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
but a lot of these images are famous ones, for obvious reasons. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
This is called The Sale of Cupids, here, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
and Venus is offering cupids that have been in a chicken cage. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
And, because they're winged, they're being allowed to fly out, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
and are offered to these ladies here. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
And here we see Mars and Venus, | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
and Mars, the God of War, is offering Venus - | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
and she certainly looks the part, as goddess of love - | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
and he's offering her Cupid, flying through the air. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
And even the shell itself is a reference to this, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
because Venus was born of the shell, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
and so the fact that these are shell cameos | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
underwrites this covert message. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
There's a lot of gods and goddesses here to unscramble. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
They're all neoclassical, some are based on Roman frescoes, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
some on Roman sculpture. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
And so it really is a letter home from Rome, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
a letter home from Naples, if you like, | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
to be unscrambled by this owner. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
It's a very, very good thing. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
I am thrilled to see it. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
And I think it's very wearable, isn't it? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Does your daughter wear it a bit? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
She may do after this! | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
Yeah, I think she will! I wouldn't blame her if she did. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
But anyway, it's a very subtle, very fragile, very beautiful, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
very poignant object, and a poetic object in every sense of the word. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
And of course, a very desirable one, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
so you'll be jolly lucky to find it again for... | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
£2,000. | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
Thank you very much, that's surprising. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
Thank you. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:06 | |
I actually hate hearing the sound of my own voice, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
but you've got quite an interesting story relating to that, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
and this rather blonde lady. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
Yeah, Barbie doll, and she actually talks with my voice. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
She talks with your voice. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
My 18-year-old voice. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
So you are, effectively, Barbie? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Um, I'm the voice of Barbie, she's the doll. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Tell me more, tell me how this came about. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
OK, right. So, I'd just finished at drama school, 1968, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
agent says to me, "Got something for you, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
"go in onto Greek Street Recording Studio." | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Recorded, I don't know, about 15 different sentences. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Forget about it until 1969, I was with Mum in Harrods... | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Hang on, hang on. Forget about it? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
You recorded the voice of Barbie, and you forgot about it?! | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Yeah. I didn't know. I thought it was just a doll! | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
So when I saw her in Harrods, I said, "It can't be," | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
but it's a talking doll. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
If I hadn't have been in Harrods, I don't know, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
I probably would never have even thought about it. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
But when I saw it, my goodness me! | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
I was excited. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
So pulling the flower-shaped ring on the back pulls out a cord, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
which operates a little spinning disk which is on an elastic band, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
and that plays one of six different sayings, doesn't it? | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
She said, "I have a date tonight," "Let's do some shopping," | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
"How shall I wear my hair?" "Let's play some records," | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
"What's playing at the cinema?" | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
'Let's play some records.' | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Let's play some records. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
I was given a doll in 1970, it was sent to my mother, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
and she didn't mean anything to me very much, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
and she just got lost in time. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
When it was Barbie's 40th birthday, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
I thought, "No, I want my doll back!" | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
And thank goodness that I actually managed to source another doll, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
and that she was still talking. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
So you bought a doll. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
For the 40th anniversary of Barbie, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
you bought your doll that you'd had as a child and been the voice of. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
And then she really meant something to me, and she still does. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Well, value-wise, she's in great condition, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
and that's what collectors are looking for. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Incidentally, did you know that | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
she was the first Barbie with individual fingers? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Individual fingers, really? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
And what's great about her as well is her hair's in great condition. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Collectors really look out for that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
And also, her limbs are intact, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
which sounds like an odd thing to say, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
but her arms and legs were often prone to falling off. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
So she's in great condition, original clothes. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
Now, you bought her from a collector, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
so I'm guessing you'd have paid a sensible price. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
I honestly can't remember, it wouldn't have been a lot of money. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
Well, they're worth somewhere between £30 and £70, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
unboxed in original condition. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Sometimes they can go a little bit more, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
and if you've got the box | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
and the original packaging in great condition, too, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
you're looking at somewhere around maybe up to £300, £350 or so. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-But in that condition, she's your doll. -Yeah. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
And, of course, that's what you remember. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
She's got to stay in the family, she's got to. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Well, thank you very much. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
-Thank you. -It is not often that you get to talk to Barbie! | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Thank you. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
So, as the Second World War in the Far East came to an end, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
those prisoners of the Japanese who had been in the jungle or in camps, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
in Hong Kong and other places, suddenly their world changed - | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
the guards started to disappear. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Something had happened. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
Now, these items here belong to...? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
My father-in-law, George King. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
And he was in one of those camps? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
-Yep, he was. -Which camp was he in? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
That, I don't know. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:25 | |
He was stationed out in Hong Kong | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
and he was captured on Christmas Day, | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
and he used to hate Christmas Day - | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
it was a struggle, always, to get through. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
And he was held, I believe, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
in the hold of a ship for a couple of years, until it was torpedoed, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:43 | |
and he was one of the very few survivors | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
of that ship being torpedoed. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Then he was moved to a camp where he was living | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
in the roof of a building, it was used for storage underneath, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
where you couldn't stand up. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
And these things on the table are the things that he brought home? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
Yeah, I think the billycan and the food ones, they... | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
At the end of the war, as they were repatriated, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
they met up with other prisoners of war, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
and they formed strong friendships, and they swapped items. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
These few possessions that he has, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
actually, are an American water bottle, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
it's an American mess tin | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
and it's an American knife, fork and spoon set. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
So I don't think he would have necessarily had them in the camp, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
but as he was being repatriated and he had nothing, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
those American servicemen who were liberating him, suddenly thought, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
"Mac, you need this more than I do." | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
And they gave away their own possessions to him, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
and probably all the others that they were picking up, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
so that they actually had something to eat with | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
-and something to keep water in. -Oh, right. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
I always imagined that there would have been a POW, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
sort of in the camp, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
sort of scratching and etching these things out. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
No, I think what you're looking at | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
is very personal items of American marines and soldiers. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
I mean, the water bottle is a First World War water bottle. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
-Oh, right! -So that's been carried for a very long time by someone, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
and they gave that away to someone much more in need than them, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
in just a compassionate moment, I think. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
And what is this little bag thing? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Well, at the end of the war, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
they would never have known that the war had ended. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
And the American aircraft carriers out at sea in Asia | 0:19:30 | 0:19:37 | |
produced these Sea View... Like a newspaper, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
which they put in the canvas bags and dropped into the POW camps, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:46 | |
to let the POWs know that the war had ended... | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-And this is the original. -..and what they should do. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
-And this is the original... -That's one of the original papers. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
It's dated Monday the 3rd of September 1945. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
And I suppose the paragraph | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
that would have set their hearts trembling | 0:20:00 | 0:20:04 | |
would have been this one here that says, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
"The dramatic ceremonies aboard the giant battleship Missouri | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
"reached a climax when representatives of Emperor Hirohito, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
"the Japanese government and Imperial headquarters, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
"signed the capitulation document." | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
The war's over. That's the piece of paper that says, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
after all those years, actually, you're going home. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
Would have been hard to believe. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Isn't it just? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
It's an incredibly fragile piece of paper, still in its airdrop bag. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
One of the odd things about this, I suppose, is that, um... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
my dad was in Burma in the Royal Air Force, and when the war ended, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
he and his crew dropped these bags... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
-Really? -..into the camps in the jungles. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
So when I saw this today, I had to do this one. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
-So you knew about it? -I knew about these ones. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Isn't it fantastic? I've never seen one. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
But dear old Dad did tell me about them, and here I am holding one. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
What that meant to them, when that landed in the camp, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
is much more than any price can ever put on it. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
But, I don't know, I suppose if we did see it | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
on a marketplace... | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
..humble spoons and a tatty piece of newspaper, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
I think we'd have to be looking at somewhere in the region of... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-£800 to £1,000. -You're kidding! | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
-No. -Good grief. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-Incredible. -It's such a rare survivor from the Japanese camps, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
it's such a rare survivor from that part of the war, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
because they had nothing. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
George Frampton, Madonna of the Peach Tree bust, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
it's absolutely beautiful. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
He's one of my favourite sculptors. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Is this something you bought? | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
Well, my mother died recently, so we've inherited it from her. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
-Oh, wow. -She inherited it from her mother's cousin, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
a very wealthy lady who lived in Jersey. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
My mother picked it out | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
as the one item she would really like to bring back, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
because she thought it looked like my daughter. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
I'm not surprised she picked this out, it's gorgeous. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-She chose well. -So do you know where it came from before that? | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Yes, the lady in Jersey is called Kay Monks-Hooper, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:12 | |
and she was the daughter of a guy called Horatio Nelson Collingwood. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
-Oh, Collingwood. -Who was a descendant of Admiral Collingwood. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Nelson's right-hand man? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
Absolutely, yes. We assume that he bought it from George Frampton. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
-The dates work. -That Collingwood bought it from...? -Yeah. -Wow. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
-So you've got the provenance right back to Frampton. -Yeah. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
I think this one, the Madonna of the Peach Tree, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
is from a story by Maurice Hewlett. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
It's about an Italian maiden, who was wrongfully accused of something, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
and she escaped from the village... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:42 | |
Having an illegitimate child, or something, yes. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
And when she appealed to the shepherds for help, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
they thought she was the Virgin Mary, and then... | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
It's a fantastic story. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
I know, yeah. Because they found her so beautiful, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
and she is so beautiful. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
I'll tell you why Frampton's one of my favourite sculptors. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
He's the first sculptor that inspired me to want to sculpt. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
When I was seven, I used to walk through Kensington Gardens | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
and gaze at his Peter Pan. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
You must know Peter Pan, | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
standing on a mound with animals coming out. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-We do indeed. -Rabbits and hedgehogs, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and all the fauna and flora from the British countryside. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
And I used to be amazed by that sculpture. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
And I think he studied at the Royal Academy, he went to Paris, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
he came back, I think he taught at the Slade. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
I think this was exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1910. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
But it's got this very distinctive monogram here, "GF 1915". | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
But on the back, it's got "Geo Frampton 1910". | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
So it's slightly confusing whether this was a 1910 or 1915 edition, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
because it's got both on there. I don't know which came first. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Could it have been signed again when Collingwood bought it? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
That's possible. It's one or the other. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
It's a beautiful thing, and I think this sculpture, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
depending on the date... | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
Now, if it's the 1915 date, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
if we can establish that, as a later piece, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
it's probably £8,000 to £12,000. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
-OK. -But if this is the 1910 edition, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
I think it's now £15,000 to £20,000. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
That would be wonderful! | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
-Wow. -I mean, this is a first-class piece of British sculpture. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
-It's lovely, isn't it? -I mean, it is divine. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
I mean, you must all love it. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
-CROWD: -Mm. -It's beautiful. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:26 | |
What's not to love? | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Many years ago, I went to India for a day. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
Crazy! In fact, I was on the way to somewhere else. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
And I wanted a day in Delhi because I wanted to see New Delhi | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
because I'm very keen on architecture of that period. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
So I saw it, and I know what I'm looking at here in this drawing. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
The great work of Lutyens and Herbert Baker. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Wonderfully diverse architect. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Very good in what you might call imperial architecture. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
India House, Bank of England. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
-South Africa House. -Exactly. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
-And so it goes on. -Yeah. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
He and Lutyens were both principal architects | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
for the Imperial War Graves Commission. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Here is someone who's really shaped the modern world. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
I know what I'm looking at. Where do you fit in? | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Well, Sir Herbert Baker, the architect, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
is my great-great-grandfather-in-law. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Right. So you are the family. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
-Yes. Yes, we are. -This is a wonderful connection. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
So tell me what you know about this? | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
Well, um, this is made as a mock. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
It was commissioned by Sir Herbert Baker, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
to sell the concepts to the Viceroy and to the Government of India, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
to have this built. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
-This is one of three debating chambers. -Yeah. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
I think this is the Lok Sabha, which is the people's debating chamber. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-Within the parliament? -Yes. That's right. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
I mean, let us think, what is New Delhi? | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
In 1912, Lutyens and Baker began to work | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
on the building of what is, in a sense, a new city. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
But it was actually a new government structure for the whole of India. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:04 | |
-Yes. -It was an imperial palace in every sense. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
The Viceroy would live there. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
It was the Parliament. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
This was, in a sense, the commission that launched Lutyens' career | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
and, to some extent, Herbert Baker's career. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
They were both well known but they'd done nothing on this scale. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
So what we're looking at is a drawing, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
not by Baker, who's down there, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
but by Hepworth - quite a well-known architectural draughtsman. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
-An architect's drawing is actually quite hard to read. -Yes. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
But this is a wonderful visualisation. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
It's free, it's lively, it's a great image. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
You can see the Viceroy sitting down, thinking, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
-"Oh, yeah, it'll look like that. I see what you mean." -Yeah. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
The great thing to me is that Baker was very, very good | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
at picking up what I would call local style. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-This is very Indian, isn't it? -Yes. Yes, it is. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
-Without being a parody or travesty. -Yeah. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
And I think this is... You know, he was very responsive to... | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
to that local culture. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
You obviously never knew him, | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
-but what did you hear about him in the family? -Oh, lots. -Tell us. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Well, every year, my father-in-law still organises a Baker Day, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
where we go as a whole family | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
and visit one of the sites where he designed. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
So it's wonderful that the family still reveres | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
the memory of somebody who was a great architect. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-Yes. Yes. -Well, I think it's a fantastic drawing. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
It takes us, as I say, wonderfully | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
into that sense of imperial splendour. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
We were a confident nation. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
We were building these great documents, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
-and statements to our power around the world. -Yes. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
And it's so lively, it's so full of detail. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
It looks very good in daylight. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
We keep it dark, obviously. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
-Quite right. -Because it's a watercolour. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
When they brought it out here on the lawn, this sort of electric blue, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
-it's extraordinary. -It is extraordinary. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
In a sense, this is Baker's vision made real | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-by a very clever architectural draughtsman. -Yes. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
So what are we looking at? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:53 | |
We're looking at a great drawing, a great bit of British history. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
It has a value, and a significant one, because of all those points. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
And so I'm going to say, if this came on the market, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
it must be between 3,000 or 5,000, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
simply because of its importance and its decorative quality. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
This could well go, if it was ever sold, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
could actually go back to India and be put into the building. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
Wow. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
-But it goes back to your wall. -Yes, yes, it does. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
Lucky you. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
But what a stunning fan! | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
-What's the history? -I don't know the history of it. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I bought it in a market in Birmingham | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
at seven o'clock in the morning for £8. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
The man in front of me put it down. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
He looked at it, shook his head, and said, "No," and put it down, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
and I picked it up and bought it for £8. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Well, thank goodness he did. Do you know anything about it, then? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
Well, I assume it's Chinese. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
No, you're absolutely right. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
What we've got is a stunning example of Chinese filigree work, | 0:28:56 | 0:29:01 | |
combined with these wonderful enamels. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Each of these panels will represent something. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
So we've got all of that marvellous enamel work, gilding. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
That might even be a little plate of gold added at that point. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
So it's going to be somebody very high in Chinese society. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
You so rarely see things of this quality. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
-The Chinese market, of course, today, is hot. -Yes. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
And it's hot for this sort of piece. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
It has to be very Chinese, and this couldn't be more. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
Dating, tricky. Um... | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
I would have thought probably 18th century. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
-You paid £8 for it. -I did. -OK. I think, er, you reasonably could | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
multiply that by a thousand. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
-Ooh! -LAUGHTER | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
-Really? -Really! | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
I'm staggered. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
Really? | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
Yes, 6,000 to 8,000. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
Good heavens! | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
I am... I'm speechless. Really speechless. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
Wonderful! | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
It's time for this week's Enigma Challenge. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
This week, it's Hilary Kay's turn to scour a local museum | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
and bring along a mystery object, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:24 | |
and supply us with three suggestions as to what it was used for. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
What's the first suggestion, Hilary? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
What you're looking at is a tongue clamp. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Ow! That sounds very painful. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
It does. Dating from the latter part of the 19th century, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
and used in the diagnosis and the spotting of diphtheria, which is... | 0:30:39 | 0:30:45 | |
Its first signs are a swelling in the neck and throat, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
which can then lead to suffocation. So it was very important | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
to be able to get the tongue right out of the way. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
So you could get a clear view right down the back of the throat. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
So do that rather than just press the tongue down with something? | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
-Exactly. Because you don't get a clear view, perhaps. -OK. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
Perhaps. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
What do we think of that so far? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:08 | |
-CROWD: -Mm. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
-OK. -I'll try you with another then. OK. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
Number two is it's a skirt-lifter. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
LAUGHTER Why would you need a skirt-lifter? | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
-All right. Picture the scene. -I'm trying not to, but... | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
It's raining - you have a long skirt. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
There is no little crossing sweeper to come and clear your path. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
You don't want to get the hem of your dress dirty. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
You clamp that onto it and then you pull it up, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
-to keep it out of the way of the mud. -OK. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
Thirdly... It is part of an end-of-pier amusement machine. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
Now, when I was a kid, I used to love something called the crane. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
Do you know what I mean by the crane? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
OK, so it-it has this arm. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
You've got a sort of window full of prizes. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
And it comes along and it grabs one of them. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
-You've got a sort of joystick. -Or lets it drop most of the time. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
The really expensive ones, the ones you really want, always drop out. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
This is a terribly fancy crane. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
I presume this is silver. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
It's silver-coloured, I think, is the best description. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
Right. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
Do you know, I was assuming that the last definition, if you like, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
would be the most plausible cos I haven't bought the first two. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
But that's the least plausible of all. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
So what do we think, then? | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
So, the only thing about a tongue clamp, hideous as that sounds, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
is surely to be able to see down the throat, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
you just need to put something on the tongue | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
-to flatten the tongue. Don't we think? -It does sound sensible. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
-A skirt-lifter. -You think it's a skirt-lifter. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
The only thing about the skirt-lifter, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
is if you've got a long skirt on, you have to bend all the way down... | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
..with these little, short handles, to lift it up. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
And then, unless you're going to lift it up to your knicks... | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
You know, you'd have to walk around like that. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
It's a dilemma. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
And then there's the very fancy amusement arcade crane. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
Which you dismissed. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
I just think they all sound ludicrous. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Good! | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
OK, show of hands for the first one - the tongue clamp. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
Show of hands for the skirt-lifter. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
I think that's more. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
Show of hands for the amusement arcade thing. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
OK, we're forgetting that. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
With a heavy heart, cos I don't believe that, the skirt-lifter. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Is it the skirt-lifter, Hilary? | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
I can now... | 0:33:32 | 0:33:33 | |
It's true. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
It's a skirt-lifter?! CHEERING | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Really? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
-It's a skirt-lifter. -It seems so impractical. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Look! The thing is, we've been a bit naughty. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
Oh? Have you hidden a really crucial part? | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
It does have a bit of a cord. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
It's not the original cord. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:51 | |
Oh, I see! | 0:33:51 | 0:33:52 | |
Ah! Now it makes sense. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
So were we too naughty? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
So you would lift your skirt up | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
but then you could hold it up with the cord. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
I see - ah, no, that does make sense. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:02 | |
I so wanted you to have a tongue twister. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
We could demonstrate it, get deep into it. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:09 | |
No, congratulations! Well done to you. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
I've got to tell you, I had no idea. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
And that's all thanks to you. So thank you very much. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Hilary, with your skirt-lifter... | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
Not something I ever thought I'd say in the same sentence. Well done! | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
So, you were a 12-year-old | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
with obviously impeccable taste. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
Because you chose this sword. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
No taste at all. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:52 | |
I just wanted to have a sword and show off to my friends at school. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
And then I wasn't allowed to take it to school. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
What made you pick this, though? | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
I liked the shape of it. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
It was in an umbrella stand. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
We were on holiday in the Norfolk broads. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
It was a junk shop. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
And in this umbrella stand, with a lot of walking sticks, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
was this sword. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:13 | |
What did you pay for it then? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
Seven and sixpence. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:17 | |
-How much pocket money was that? -Seven shillings and sixpence. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Was that the entire week's pocket money? | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
That was three weeks' pocket money. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
-Fantastic! -I had half a crown a week. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
Right, do you know what it is? | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
Someone told me it's a shamshir, but you can tell me. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
It is a shamshir, but it's a shamshir shekargar, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
which means "hunting sword". | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
Well, I'm not surprised, because there are hunting scenes on it, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
with people chasing animals. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
And there are lions and panthers, and birds, and deer, and rabbits, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
and I don't know what else. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:51 | |
And we've got this fantastic blade. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
When I first bought it in this junk shop at Ranworth, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
-it was completely black. -Yeah? | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
And I took it home, and scrubbed it with a scrubbing brush on the lawn, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:05 | |
-and soapy water. -Right. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
And black waxy stuff came away, | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
-revealing all these lovely golden animals. -Yeah. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Imagine the excitement! | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
It must have been fantastic. Because they are, indeed, gold. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
-They're not gold, are they? -Yes. That's inlaid gold. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
-I thought they were probably brass. -Nope. That's gold. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
-Good heavens! -Engraved on the back, it is a hunting sword. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
Bone handle. This incredibly distinctive shape. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:32 | |
It's a cutting sword. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
-It's very sharp. -It's designed solely for a draw cut. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
It's Indo-Persian, early 1800s. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
1820s, 1830s. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
It's fantastic. It's a beautiful thing. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
As I said, fantastic taste for a 12-year-old. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
We've really got to think about what it's worth now, though. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
So you paid seven and six, a princely sum. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
Yes, equivalent to 37½p now. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Right. It's not... | 0:36:57 | 0:36:59 | |
But it was 70 years ago, and there's been a bit of inflation. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
There has been a touch. A little bit. We'll factor that in as well. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
I would think I am holding... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
£1,200 worth of sword at the moment. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Oh, really? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:14 | |
So your seven and sixpence investment from your junk shop | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
has proved pretty good. And it's just a fabulous sword. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
I really, really envy you. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
We have a lot of Young Masters on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
from the 20th century. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
It's very refreshing to be bordered by two Old Masters, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
at least 400 years old. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Have you had them that long? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
Well, they've been in the family since about 1966. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
This one, '68. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:46 | |
-How did that come about? -Well, the Portuguese boy behind you | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
was probably bought at a saleroom my father frequented. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
And this one, from the great sale of Luton Hoo, in the '60s, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
via a well-known picture restorer at the time, Michael Leslie. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
And he sold it to my father. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
Well, let's start with the young man, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
because he's an early 17th-century portrait. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
I notice there's a label, rather usefully, on it | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
which says Portuguese School, and a nice enough piece. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
I don't think we need discuss that, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
as much as this rather more alluring, rather intense, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:23 | |
but also captivatingly poetic woman next to us. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Now, do you know who she is? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Well, she is Princess Mary. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
She's aged 12 in this picture. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
It's dated just here as 1641. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
She's the daughter of Princess Henrietta and Charles I. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
She later married Prince William of Orange, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
and they succeeded to the throne of England as William and Mary. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
What makes you think that? | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
It's been examined, 50 years ago, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
by a number of people. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
It was verified by the Rijksmuseum, a Dr Hannema, | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
who was the director of the Boijmans Institute at the time. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
Who also appended the artist's name as well? | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
Pierre Dubordieu, someone who worked with Rembrandt, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
and then started on his own in the 1630s and '40s. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
-Yes. -So, 50 years ago, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
-this was christened not only with an identity but a firm artist. -Yes. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
But art history moves on. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
This is no aristocrat, in my view. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
It doesn't have any of the attributes. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
She doesn't actually have the demeanour. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
I'm convinced that this is a Dutch, middle-class portrait, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
or perhaps upper-middle-class, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
if we want to try and elevate it a little bit. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
Because certainly the dress suggests someone of taste and advantage. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
This is a merchant's image. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
I suspect a merchant's wife. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
She's got all the attributes of luxury - | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
she's got gloves, hugely expensive things, | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
which she's holding in her left hand. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
A rather beautiful, exotic fan in her right. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
That silver bow. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
But, more than anything else, in her expression, in her demeanour, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
you can feel the imprint of Rembrandt. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Rembrandt, who managed to increase in a poetic and intense way, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
the whole language of communication. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
And, although she looks like a woman of her period, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
the more you look into that face, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:23 | |
the more you can actually feel depth, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
a sense of communication, a subtlety, | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
which is what Rembrandt brought to art. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
It is quite possible that it is by Pierre Dubordieu, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
because, certainly, there are characteristics. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
But when it comes to a valuation, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
I think I'll give you two. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
One which will be on the basis of what it is now in front of us, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
and the other on that little bit more work that we always need to do | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
with these portraits to try to nail it. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
So starting with the young man on my left... | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
The condition is not great, the quality is not great. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
It's only worth about... | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
£800 to £1,200. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Mm-hm. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
Our woman is of a different order altogether. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
So, on the basis that we don't know who the artist is, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
I would say it was worth somewhere between £20,000 and £30,000. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
I think there would be people out there who would pay that. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
Just because it's an alluring image from that period | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
with a Rembrandt-esque look, and it's in superb condition. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
If we were able to attach with certainty | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
the name that is written here, Pierre Dubordieu, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
then we could be talking about £50,000, £60,000, even £70,000. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:41 | |
We, you, will have your job cut out doing that, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
-but at least it's an indication. -Thank you. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
As far as carriage clocks go, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
this is an absolutely stonking clock. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
It's huge. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
It must weigh two, three kilograms at least. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
It was given to my aunt in the '50s. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
As part of two presents, two different clocks | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
that she got from her employer when she was in service. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
One was for long service, and the other one was when she got married. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
So she ended up with two beautiful clocks. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
She was very close to my father - her brother - | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
and she offered him one of the clocks. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
And, at first, he had this one. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
But they used to regularly swap the clocks over. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
She was in Ireland, he was in England. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
If he went to Ireland, he would take his clock - | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
whichever one he had at the time - over, swap them over. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
My aunt would also put a bottle of poitin in the package | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
because it was the only way he could get his poitin back to England. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
And that's how they swapped them over for getting on for 20 years. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
After that, they did make the decision | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
that my father would keep this one | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
and then, when he died, I inherited this. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
I was very happy to have it. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
I've got two children and they're both mad for it. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
So I think, when it comes to my passing it on to them, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
they'll have to share it, just like their grandfather did. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
I think that's a wonderful story, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:12 | |
and I'm so glad that the clock is appreciated and coveted. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:18 | |
Do you know anything about the clock itself? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
I know a little, because, um... | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
it was cleaned and regulated quite a long time ago. | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
I know that one of the plates in it has got the date 1861 on it. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:33 | |
There was talk about whether it was a French clock or an English clock | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
because of the way it was inside, | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
but I don't know much more about it than that, really. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
Well, from my point of view, 1861 is probably a good date for this clock. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:47 | |
It's mid-Victorian. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
The question over English or French, there is no question in my mind - | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
it's English through and through. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
This is so over-engineered, it's massive. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:59 | |
There were makers like McCabe, Dent, all producing this style of clock. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
And it is one of my favourite sort of clocks. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:08 | |
Carriage clocks are great, English carriage clocks are fabulous. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:11 | |
You've got this wonderful, heavy case, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
with this wonderful moulded cast brass. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
But then you come up and you've got this beautiful, delicate, | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
engraved dial mask with this inset dial. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:24 | |
This is all gilded. The whole clock would have been gilded. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
When it was new, it would have been really bright | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
and it would have said, "Look at me! I'm magnificent." | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
Then you come to the top and you've got this wonderful, detailed handle. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:38 | |
It's really, really a great piece of work. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
We can see inside, we have these heavy plates. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:44 | |
These beautiful turned pillars that most people wouldn't really notice, | 0:44:44 | 0:44:48 | |
and this lovely chain fusee movement with the platform on top. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
So this is a magnificent clock, and it is well loved. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
I can't imagine that you would | 0:44:56 | 0:44:58 | |
ever come to sell it or part with it in any way. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:01 | |
But if it was in an auction, I would say, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:04 | |
it could easily sit with an auction estimate... | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
of £5,000 to £8,000. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
Oh, my days! | 0:45:09 | 0:45:10 | |
Mm. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:13 | |
I didn't... I really didn't expect that. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:18 | |
I've had it... | 0:45:18 | 0:45:19 | |
..valued once, and it was a long time ago, at 1,000, | 0:45:20 | 0:45:23 | |
and I thought that was amazing then. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
But gosh! | 0:45:25 | 0:45:26 | |
Yes, well, it'll get dusted even more often now, I think. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
There's something wonderful about a walking stick, | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
in that you put your hand on it | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
and you're shaking hands with the previous owner. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:42 | |
Now, tell me who the previous owner was. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:44 | |
Well, the previous owner was Sir Walter Scott, | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
and this was given to his friend, William Allen, the artist, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:53 | |
the year before his death. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
Sir Walter Scott. He was THE perhaps best-known historical novelist | 0:45:55 | 0:46:00 | |
of his day, in the early part of the 19th century. | 0:46:00 | 0:46:03 | |
He wrote novels like Rob Roy, Ivanhoe, Waverley. | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
These novels that sort of created a heroic Scottish past. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:13 | |
And this is his walking stick. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:15 | |
Well, how did you get it? | 0:46:15 | 0:46:17 | |
My parents and I used to collect walking sticks in the early '90s. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
A walking stick dealer we used to buy the occasional stick from | 0:46:20 | 0:46:23 | |
had this and offered it to us. It's a unique slice of history - | 0:46:23 | 0:46:27 | |
it was an opportunity we didn't want to miss. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
No. Well, why would you? | 0:46:30 | 0:46:31 | |
I'm going to actually read the little band on here, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
which says, "Given by Sir Walter Scott, Bart., | 0:46:35 | 0:46:39 | |
"to William Allan at Abbotsford, 19th September, 1831." | 0:46:39 | 0:46:45 | |
It looks like a five on first glance | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
but, looking closely, you can see that that is a three. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
Well, Abbotsford was the house that Walter Scott designed and built, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:56 | |
where he in fact died the following year. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:59 | |
And William Allan, president of the Scottish Academy of Artists, | 0:46:59 | 0:47:04 | |
was perhaps... He was certainly a friend, | 0:47:04 | 0:47:07 | |
but he was also responsible for creating | 0:47:07 | 0:47:11 | |
some very memorable portraits of Sir Walter Scott himself. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
Is that one? You're grasping a piece of paper. | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
I'm not sure if that's one of his, but there are a number of paintings | 0:47:17 | 0:47:21 | |
of Scott with the actual stick. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
First of all, it's made of malacca and it's in certain... | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
a number of segments, which you can count on any of the paintings. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:29 | |
It's then got this eyehole where a string would have gone through, | 0:47:29 | 0:47:33 | |
which again you can see in the portraits. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
The other thing, of course, is it's a proper stick, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
because Sir Walter Scott needed a stick. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:42 | |
This wasn't a dandyism. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
I believe he had polio as a child. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
That's what I had heard. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
This is a strong stick on which a man could have rested his weight, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
and I'm rather excited about it, I have to say, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
to hold it and to know what a part it played in a great man's life. | 0:47:55 | 0:48:00 | |
Would other people think the same, I wonder? What did you pay for it? | 0:48:00 | 0:48:03 | |
In the early '90s, I believe it was £700. | 0:48:03 | 0:48:07 | |
The profile of Sir Walter Scott waxes and wanes | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
and there was a time when he was almost as popular as Robbie Burns. | 0:48:12 | 0:48:18 | |
I have to say, that is not the case now. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:20 | |
The big American institutions that were buying Robert Burns | 0:48:20 | 0:48:24 | |
and Sir Walter Scott material | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
are not so interested in Sir Walter Scott any more. | 0:48:26 | 0:48:28 | |
So, I'm going to be a bit, um... | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
conservative, I think, with the estimate. | 0:48:32 | 0:48:34 | |
I'm going to put it at between £2,000 and £3,000. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
-Oh, right. OK. -Because of who it belonged to | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
and because of his profile in the literary world. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
-It is a remarkable survivor. -Yeah. Thank you. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
So you're becoming a bit of a familiar sight at the Roadshow. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
Yes, indeed. Last year we were down at Walmer | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
and we brought something along but today I've got something different. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
I wondered if you can give us some history, anything about it, really. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
We just know nothing about it at all. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:05 | |
Well, you must know where you've got it from. | 0:49:05 | 0:49:07 | |
I inherited it from my granny. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
That's really all we know about it. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:10 | |
It's probably been in the family about 100 years or so. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:14 | |
One of the most familiar questions that's asked on the roadshow is, | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
-how old is it? -Yes. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:19 | |
A lot of stuff that we get, a lot of objects we get, are reproductions. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:26 | |
The period that we're talking here is 1760, is the sort of date. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:32 | |
The question is, is this one from 1760 or is this a later... | 0:49:32 | 0:49:37 | |
-Copy? -..copy? | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
Well, actually, that's really easy with this one. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
Now, if you look at that very carefully... | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
You've heard of the Leaning Tower of Pisa. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
This is called the Leaning Glass of Ightham, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
-because, if you look at it, it's all over the place. -Yeah. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
Now, if we come round here, there's some stuff on here. | 0:49:55 | 0:50:00 | |
Yes. I've always wondered what that is. I have tried to rub it off. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:03 | |
-It's called grot. -Oh, right. OK. -That's what it's called. -Excellent. | 0:50:03 | 0:50:07 | |
And there's another bit here. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
Basically, that is telling you that it's old. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:14 | |
Now, when we look at 18th-century drinking glasses, you think, | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
"What were they used for?" | 0:50:16 | 0:50:17 | |
Well, they were just a single mouthful. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
They don't fit into modern life. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:21 | |
Who drinks wine by the single mouthful before filling it up again? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
This one has an amazing asset, doesn't it? | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
-Which is... -A huge bowl. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | |
-It's huge. -Lovely. | 0:50:31 | 0:50:33 | |
This is, kind of, a third of a glass, isn't it? | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
-Yes. -So have you never used it? | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
No. I'm a bit clumsy. I daren't use it. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
I didn't actually wash it before I came here | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
because I didn't want to break it or anything. | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
It's just stayed in the cupboard out the way, safe. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
GLASS RINGS | 0:50:47 | 0:50:49 | |
Lovely! 270 years old. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
It's got an OXO-engraved border. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
OXO, OXO, OXO. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:58 | |
-You see how that goes round. -Yes. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:00 | |
It has a faceted stem. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
1760 to 1765 is the date. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:05 | |
It fits into the modern drinking habit of big glasses. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
So your nice, little legacy is, | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
um... | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
350, 400 quid. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
Ah! £350, £400 for that? | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
Wow! I'd better not drop it now. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Gosh! Thank you ever so much. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
I didn't realise it was as much as that. That is amazing. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:32 | |
Well, we're filming in the cricket season, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:36 | |
when you will hear the sound of leather on willow. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
And you've come today with the most incredibly | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
early-looking cricket bat. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:43 | |
-Tell me about it. -It's a bat that we believe is made by William Pett, | 0:51:43 | 0:51:48 | |
a local bat maker in Sevenoaks. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
It's owned by Sevenoaks Vine Cricket Club, | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
and we can trace history of cricket on the Vine | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
back to the 6th of September 1734. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:58 | |
Gosh! How fantastic! | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
So wuite an illustrious cricket club. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
Well, a bat of this age makes us speculate | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
on how old the game of cricket actually is. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:09 | |
It certainly stretches back many centuries | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
and, like many games, has undergone different changes. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
From a distance, you'd think it was a hockey club, or hockey stick, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:20 | |
because... Look at the sweep of it! | 0:52:20 | 0:52:23 | |
No shoulders. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:24 | |
We all get used to the modern, more modern, cricket bat shape. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
This was just made from one piece of willow from top to bottom. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
It's a lovely, curvaceous form. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
The name, "Pett", with the initials RT, appear on the top of the handle. | 0:52:34 | 0:52:40 | |
And it's seen some action. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:41 | |
We don't know who the owner was, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
but it is signed on the back there in 1745. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
So that gives some sort of a dating to it as well. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
This is clearly legible. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
-Richard Mitchell. -Yes. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:53 | |
1745. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
I mean...Jacobite rebellion and all that. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
It really does go back to the reign of George II. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
But it's a real, tactile thing. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
Now, what about the ball? | 0:53:06 | 0:53:08 | |
The ball is a silver snuff box, used at club dinners. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:12 | |
After dinner, it would be filled with snuff | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
and then thrown around amongst the members. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
Anybody who dropped it had to buy either a round of drinks | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
-or a bottle of port. -Oh! -So it's a bit knocked about. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
That's absolutely marvellous. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:24 | |
Let's have a look! Are you aware of how old is? | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
That dates, we believe, from the early 1800s. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:30 | |
We can trace sort of comment to it back to 1818. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:33 | |
Sadly, there's everything there except the date letter. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
We have the duty head mark of George III. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:40 | |
I think it's circa 1800. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:43 | |
That's really quite a scarce piece as well. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:45 | |
Well, having seen your bat, | 0:53:47 | 0:53:49 | |
I just thought this could never be bettered on the Antiques Roadshow. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
But, ten minutes later, along comes another cricket bat. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:56 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -And here is the offending bat. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
This is a family piece, I understand. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
This has been in my family for 100... exactly 100 years. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
Fantastic. To the year. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:08 | |
-To the year. -Great. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:10 | |
-Great. -1916. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:11 | |
Yeah. And it carries the signature | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
of perhaps one of the best-known cricketers of all time, WG Grace. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:18 | |
-Yes. -What was his connection with you and your family? | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
My great-grandfather, Charles Blundell, who lived at Halstead, | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
was a farmer at Halstead near Sevenoaks. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
He became a friend of Grace in his later years. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
Grace used to come down from Eltham to play... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
-Either to go shooting or hunting with beagles. -Yeah. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
That's, um, Grace. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
Yes, and wasn't he a big chap? | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
That's my grandfather there. Well, he was huge. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:46 | |
But my family were absolutely tiny. | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
-So the contrast is quite extreme. -Yes. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
My aunt said you would expect him to have a voice like thunder, | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
but actually he had a rather high voice. | 0:54:57 | 0:55:00 | |
We mustn't forget just what a celebrity WG Grace was at the time. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:04 | |
There wasn't a newspaper in the British colonial world | 0:55:04 | 0:55:07 | |
-that didn't have his photograph in on a regular basis. -That's right. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:10 | |
So quite an honour for your family | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
to have been associated with the great man. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
WG Grace has signed it, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
-but do we know whether he actually played with it? -We do. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:20 | |
He apparently played with it in 1912. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:23 | |
-Right. -Because, after his death, his widow, Agnes Grace, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:29 | |
donated it to a sale in Sevenoaks. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
In the letter, she says he played with it in 1912. | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
Fantastic! You have a letter in the family. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:37 | |
We've got the letter, yes - | 0:55:37 | 0:55:38 | |
with the black border, of course, because she was still in mourning. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
What I love is the fact there's impressions | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
-of where balls have been hit. -I love that, too. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
To think that Grace himself perhaps took a six with this. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:53 | |
So, really, the question is, what are they worth? | 0:55:53 | 0:55:56 | |
Which is the most valuable? | 0:55:56 | 0:55:59 | |
Who thinks the early one is worth the most? | 0:55:59 | 0:56:04 | |
-Yes. -So, obviously, it leaves all the rest of you with the Grace. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
You think that's... OK. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
Well... | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
This is an early one. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:16 | |
They do turn up at sales. | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
In an auction, that would carry... | 0:56:18 | 0:56:20 | |
..an estimate of £3,000 to £5,000. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
Turning swiftly to the Wisden bat, with the Grace connections, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:31 | |
this one's worth between £4,000 and £6,000. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
But, look, what's dividing the two bats is the toss-your-snuffbox ball. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:42 | |
I might be putting my neck out on the line a little bit... | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
£3,000 to £5,000. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
-Don't want to drop it. -LAUGHTER | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
So, howzat? | 0:56:51 | 0:56:52 | |
Thank you. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:54 | |
So, not one, not two, but three sporting treasures in one hit. | 0:56:55 | 0:57:00 | |
Before we go, here at Ightham Mote, | 0:57:00 | 0:57:02 | |
I just wanted to show you this bottle of champagne. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
It's a 1921 vintage. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
It was bought by the parents of a young Alan Lundy in 1943 | 0:57:08 | 0:57:12 | |
for his 21st birthday the following year. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:15 | |
He flew with the RAF | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
and, sadly, he was killed | 0:57:18 | 0:57:20 | |
before he managed to reach that important birthday. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
And his family have kept it and treasured it ever since. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:28 | |
I don't know about you, but I find that really moving. | 0:57:28 | 0:57:31 | |
From Ightham Mote and the whole Roadshow team, bye-bye. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:34 |