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The Antiques Roadshow has come back to the banks of the River Clyde near | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
Lanark in Scotland to this picturesque World Heritage site. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
The village of New Lanark was built in 1785 during the industrial | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
revolution, and at the time, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
was the biggest cotton manufacturer in the country. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
In the late 18th century, factory workers tended to live close to | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
their place of work. This meant | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
housing had to be provided close to the mill. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
The exterior of the buildings were constructed using | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
locally-quarried sandstone, using a style known as random rubble, which | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
used the natural shapes of the stone. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
This room has been reconstructed as it would have looked in the 1800s | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
and all the family would have lived | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
in this one room with its one window, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
and the cooking happened over here, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
and everyone slept on this side. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
And look at this bed with its wheels. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
It's called a hurley bed, and it would have been pulled out at night | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
and then pushed back under during the day to make space. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
In the 1861 census, Mr and Mrs Gallagher recorded four children, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:50 | |
a sister-in-law and two lodgers | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
all living together in this small space. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
Wow! | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
At its height, there would have been around 2,500 people working | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and living in this village. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
High-density, tall tenements were the housing solution. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
The names of these buildings tell you all you need to know about them. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
So this is Long Row. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Over there, that's Wee Row. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
And then just beyond it is Double Row | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
because the houses are twice as wide. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Double Row, as you can see, is covered in scaffolding as | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
New Lanark Trust continues with its mission to restore and regenerate | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
these historic buildings. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
So, I'm putting on this hard hat because I've been given special | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
permission to take a closer look. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
This house was occupied by the same family from 1901 until the 1970s. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
It was a lucky find because many of the original features remain intact, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
like the bed spaces here. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:43 | |
And then the wallpaper. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
The different layers go back through the years, all the way back to 1900. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:50 | |
This is the original sink that one of the members of that family, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
now in his 80s, remembers being washed in as a child. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
And I can imagine quite a few | 0:02:59 | 0:03:00 | |
children were washed in this sink over the years. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Today we're welcoming the people of South Lanarkshire and beyond to come | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
help us peel back the layers of | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
a few more stories on this week's Antiques Roadshow. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Do you know, this is one of the finest claret jugs I've ever seen. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
Absolutely gorgeous. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
But, what have you stuck that in there for? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
Yes, honestly, we don't know how long | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
that has been there with the jug. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
The jug originally belonged to a family member on my gran's side. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
He was given it as a retirement gift when he left Seamill Hydro. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:41 | |
When he died, he left it to my gran, and my gran's now in her mid-90s. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
And, a few years, ago she gave it to my dad. A lovely gift. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
Gosh, I wish I could be given a jug like this! | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
But it is superb. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
With so many claret jugs, you find the glass is doing something | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
entirely different to the rest of it. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Look at what's going on here. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
We've got the face engraved at that point and then again we see it at | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
the head of each strap. Everything is tying up. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
These scrolls pick up the scrolls there. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
It's a unified design. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
And it just oozes quality. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
When you look at the top here, the sculptural group, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
the female there and little bacchanal with the bunch of grapes, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
it's stunning. Actually, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
it's going to be even more stunning when you've cleaned it! Yes! | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
Of course, this surface here is silver-gilt. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
So, the whole piece, apart from the glass, obviously, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
is made out of silver and then, in this case, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
it would have been electrogilded. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
So it's silver covered with gold. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Now, we've got... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
..a nice set of marks here. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Which are actually quite intriguing. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
I mean, they're London, we've got the London Leopard's head there. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
And they're for 1891. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
OK. So we're right towards the end of the reign of Queen Victoria. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
But what I find fascinating is, the maker's mark is WK... | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
OK. ..which is for Keith Co. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
OK. Now, Keith were absolutely fantastic makers of Church silver. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:20 | |
And this is certainly not a Church piece with all the bacchanals | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
and so on. Wouldn't be quite appropriate! | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
So when did you last use it? | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I don't think it's ever actually been used. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
As far as I know, the relative on my gran's side, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
he kept it in a pawn shop for safekeeping. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
A pawn shop? Yes, because it was a retirement gift, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
he didn't want to use it, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
he wanted to keep it as long as possible in its good condition. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
But when it went to my gran, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
it then went to a shelf and it stayed on that shelf until | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
she moved house and now it sits on a shelf in my parents' house. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
So it's probably never been touched or ever been used. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
So what about the value of it? | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
I think, auction estimate, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
I think, would be | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
?2,500 to ?3,000. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
Wow! | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
Wasn't expecting that, to be honest! | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
And I wouldn't be surprised if it went higher. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
OK. It is so good. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Wow, that's... My dad will be very pleased to hear that. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
He's always said that it was of value and had a lot of history, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
and I always said it had nothing! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
So, unfortunately, he's now right and I'm wrong! | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Right! So you're going to change your view of it? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
I think I'll just go back and tell him it's worth nothing, yeah! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
A wonderful exotic lady in Lanarkshire. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Where did she come from? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
She came from a beauty salon in | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Newcastle which was run by my grandmother. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
And how did she end up in Newcastle? | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
Now, that's a love story! | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
She started off in Somerset... | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
..with quite a significant landed family in Somerset. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
And she actually fell in love with a chauffeur, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
much to the displeasure of her parents. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
She ran away with him | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
and subsequently became disinherited by the family. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
So, they moved up to Newcastle | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
and life grew from there, and how she managed to get | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
figures like that and artefacts like that in her beauty salon, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
which she developed in Newcastle, we have no idea. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
This is an exceptional piece. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It's made by the Lenci factory in Turin. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
And they started off, 1919, making little felt dolls. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
Then 1928, they moved into | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
ceramic figures and they were highly desirable. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
This was high Art Deco. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
This particular figure was made around 1932. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
And she's a very exotic character. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But you imagine how in, you know, 1930, I mean, she's naked... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
Yes. ..which was a bit shocking. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Except for this elaborate headdress. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
The figure is called Lui Tu, as in Chinese L-U-I, new word, T-U. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:16 | |
And, the thing I love about this is the details. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Look at these wonderful Chinese pots. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
She is designed by somebody called Helen Konig Scavini, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
who was THE designer. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
They're very desirable. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
This is a particularly rare one. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
And they embody the Art Deco style. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Unfortunately, we can see she's badly damaged, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
and with lots of ceramic figurines, that would destroy the value. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
But interestingly, not so with Lenci. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
If this figure came up for sale, with this considerable damage, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
she would still command a figure of ?5,000. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Good grief! | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Really? | 0:08:57 | 0:08:58 | |
Wow! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
57.5 pounds of meat. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
33 pounds of carrots. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
4 pounds of onions. 14 pounds of flour. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Now, what kind of a cookbook am I reading? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Whose is it? It was my father's, who was in the Second World War. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:22 | |
And this was his log, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
his daily log of his daily chores and cooking and everything else | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
that went on in his daily life. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
So he was in the Army Catering Corps, or the equivalent of? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Yes. And is this a picture of, this is not him in uniform, is it? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
But it's him off duty. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
Yes, it was him off duty, my mother and my father... | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
Great. ..many years ago. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
And looking at this book, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
it's written so... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Precise. ..beautifully, isn't it? | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
I mean, the actual hand that it's in. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Yeah, and it goes all the way through the whole entire book. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
So yes, pages and pages of tightly written | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
instructions and advice and drawings and cuts of meat. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:11 | |
I mean, it just goes... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
It's a wonderful insight into, you know, a cook's life in the war. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:19 | |
And it's not just the writing that's so lovely, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:24 | |
there's also beautiful drawings of the sort of really very rudimentary | 0:10:24 | 0:10:30 | |
ovens and things that he'd be using presumably every day, and out | 0:10:30 | 0:10:36 | |
on the field if he was ever called into action. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
Yes. The other thing that I love, | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
which I just caught looking through here, is his daily log. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Here we have, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
really by every quarter of an hour almost, his day planned. Yes. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
So we've got parade, knife drill, peeling, dicing, prep yeast dough, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
prep veg soup, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
prep baked pudding, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:01 | |
make tea for break. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Ten o'clock, break. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
Phew! Every day. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
Every day, on and on it goes. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
And when you go through it and touch the pages... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
It's just beautiful. It makes me really emotional, it does. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
And I think today, just even more than ever, it's just... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
It's fabulous. It just feels really close to him, you know. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:26 | |
It's great. It's really nice. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Well, it is a fabulous thing and it makes me feel very privileged to | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
turn these pages too, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
something that was created with obviously such love and dedication. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
And it's not a valuable thing, we're not here to talk about the value. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
No. The value is really tiny. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
But as far as stacking up memories and reflecting on a really important | 0:11:45 | 0:11:51 | |
role, it's got it all. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
You know, the Spitfire pilots get all the glory. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Yes. But actually, an army marches on its stomach. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Yeah. On its stomach, it's true. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
The glorious Scottish countryside is depicted so beautifully in this very | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
large oil painting by Joseph Maurice Henderson. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
And you have brought in perhaps the biggest canvas that I've ever seen | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
by this artist. The sun is shining, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
you've got lots of gentlemen stacking hay. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
Tell me where this has come from? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
It's actually a family painting. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
The story goes, it was purchased by my grandfather to cover a wedding | 0:12:24 | 0:12:30 | |
that the Hendersons were having for one of their daughters. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
Purchased around about 1930s, as far as I'm led to believe, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
and that's stayed in the family since then. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
And there's a label on the back of the picture | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
that says ?160, so do I take it that it was ?160 in the '30s? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
We assume it was, yes. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
That was an enormous amount of money, and of course the Hendersons, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
you know a lot about the Hendersons. What's the connection there? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
The connection with the Hendersons is my great-aunt is actually | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
a Henderson and a lot of the paintings have come through | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
that side of the family. How amazing. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Glasgow-based, Glasgow artist. Yes, that's right, they were. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
And Joseph, the father, and John and | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Joseph Maurice Henderson were the sons. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
They were all the sons. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
And, you know, a really fabulous artist, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
and to see the Scottish landscape | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
sunny and breezy and light... | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
And of course this is painted by the son of Joseph Henderson. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Yes. The whole family were artists. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
And, of course, you probably know all of them. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
We've heard... We've read a good bit about the family, there's been | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
several exhibitions done with the family paintings. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
This one was taken for a painting exhibition years ago and there is a | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
brochure confirming it was shown. Right, where was it shown? | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
I think it was actually shown through in Edinburgh, but, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
as I say, this one's stayed within the family since then and it's | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
the only one we've got that's got a farming-type scene on it, as such. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Most of the rest of the family paintings are a lot of seascapes, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
he loved water and seascapes so there's a lot of water and seascape | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
paintings. Yes. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
This is painted in a very impressionistic way. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
The sun is shining, there is a breeze. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
You get a very good feeling about this big landscape. Mm-hm. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
And I suppose artists of this type, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
this was probably painted around the 1920s - he dies in 1936 - | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
they were inspired by the really great | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
Impressionist landscape artist William McTaggart. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
And, of course, McTaggart was a great marine painter. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
And you often seen Joseph Maurice Henderson painting very lovely | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
pictures of children by the sea. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Yeah. So what have we got? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
We've got a really fabulous country landscape by Maurice Henderson, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
I think this would make at least ?6,000 - ?8,000 at auction... | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
Really? ..in the present market. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Oh, oh, dear. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Well, that's got to be a surprise now. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Yeah, cool. Thank you very much. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
I really think it's possibly one of the nicest pictures I've seen by | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
the artist, and over the years I've handled quite a lot. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Really? I haven't seen any like this, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
this is the only one I've seen. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Really super picture and I hope you enjoy it at home. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Yes, we do, thank you very much, indeed we do. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
We're in a time when we're thinking a lot about the Centenary of | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
the First World War, quite rightly, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
but there are aspects of it that | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
don't seem to come into our consciousness. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
And one of the ones that has always meant a lot to me is | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
conscientious objection. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
It was a very strong cause in the First World War and yet no-one | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
seemed to talk about it. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Now, I can see I'm looking at a conscientious objector here, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
now, who he was he? Well, this is my grandfather, William Tetley, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
who I never knew, unfortunately. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
But he was a conscientious objector, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
he was a Quaker and he was quite strong in the socialist movement. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
What was he? He was a photographer. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
So here he is, he's got an established profession, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
where are we talking about? He was in South Shields at this point | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
but he was actually born in Leeds. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
OK, so along comes the First World War and what does he do? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
In 1916, conscription began so he was called up | 0:16:12 | 0:16:17 | |
and refused to go to war | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
so he was arrested and sent to a military tribunal | 0:16:20 | 0:16:25 | |
and the process just kept going on over the next few months. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
He would be called up, he would refuse to go, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
he would go to yet another tribunal, he would spend a few weeks in a | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
jail - Wakefield, Wormwood Scrubs and ultimately Dartmoor Prison. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
The Quaker tradition of antimilitarism is very strong | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
and, in fact, it goes back into the 18th century when | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
there was a tolerance of what were then not called, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
but were conscientious objectors, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
they didn't have to serve in the militia. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
Nothing then happened until the 19th century, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
we come to the First World War, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
1914, 1915, in effect nothing happens | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
cos all those who were | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
fighting were volunteers and if you simply didn't volunteer, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
you run the risk of a white feather, but you didn't have to do anything. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
Conscription comes in in March 1916, and suddenly there's a problem. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
And the conscription act did consider - | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
how do we deal with conscientious objectors? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
And there was a process, as you say, you could object, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
file your objection, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
you went before a tribunal and if you were exempted, you had choices. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
As a Quaker, you could serve up to a point in the military, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
you could be a stretcher bearer, you could become a medical orderly. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
You could also join something called the Non-Combatant Corps which meant | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
you could be a dock labourer, you could build roads, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
you did nothing military. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Now we've got a letter here, tell me about that. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
This letter was written to verify that my grandad had always been... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
..a seeker of peace, not war. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
And this gentleman wrote and explained | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
that William Tetley had always been | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
a seeker of peace, not war, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
and that he wasn't jumping on | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
an anti-war bandwagon just at that time. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
So you had to be supported at the tribunal by images like this? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
Yes. I mean, the photographs are interesting, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
I'd never seen photographs taken inside prisons showing groups. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
I mean, here we have a group of conscientious objectors. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Is he in this photograph? Yes, he's the one with the moustache there. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
Right. And this is in October 1916. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Now, here we are in Dartmoor, shoesmith's and tinsmith's shop. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
I think the prison didn't really know what to do with these people | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
because they weren't conventional criminals. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
That's right. They had to be employed and so they were put to | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
work wherever they could, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
and I think it's a tragedy that so many people who | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
were driven by their conscience | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
ended up actually outsiders in society. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
More importantly, outsiders in their family. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Yes. What do you think about him now? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
I just stand in awe, really, of all that he did, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
not just in conscientious objection | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
but in other areas of social justice. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
And it's that link between | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Quakerism, religion, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
political principle which fired so many people at that time. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
Yes absolutely. It's an extraordinary archive | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
and I think because I've never seen anything like it, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
it's actually worth quite a lot of money | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
to the history of the conscious objection movement. Right, yeah. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
There's obviously much more than we've got here, so we're looking at | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
several hundred pounds, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
just as a historical archive, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
but actually it's really showing the spotlight into your family. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
To us it's priceless, really. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
Boring plate, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
interesting plate. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Do you have any connection to the Staffordshire Potteries? | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
No. OK. I'm afraid not. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Well, this does. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
Wenger's were a very well-known colour manufacturer so this is | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
a sample plate and it says here, "Wenger's, Etruria, Stoke-on-Trent, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
"specimen underglazed colour 421." | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
So this is colour 421. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
And that's why it's got a hole in there, so in a pottery, they could | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
hang this on the wall, and when they came to make colour 421, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
this was the sample which they mixed the colour to. Right. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
So this is a real piece of ceramic history. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
So, as a boring plate with nothing on the back, it's worth 30 quid, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
but with that on the back, it's worth ?300. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
Wow. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
So the back makes a big difference. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
This is the sort of thing a ceramics historian like me gets giddy over | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
because they're very rare, because when potteries closed down | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
they often were smashed, so it's a really | 0:20:54 | 0:20:55 | |
rare thing, a real bit of ceramic history, so look after it. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
You've no idea how many scores of these I've seen that I wouldn't give | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
a second glance, but this one made me do a double-take because it's | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
the best one I have ever seen. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
Lovely. Where did you get it and why did you bring it here? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Well, it was given to my parents as a wedding gift in 1933. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:41 | |
Wow. I don't know who gave them it, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
but it's always been known as Reggie. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
And he's always lived in either | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
my mother's front room or my own front room. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
He had cigarettes in him and a box of matches for visitors. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
My father didn't smoke cigarettes, he smoked a pipe, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
but they were always there and I can always remember the cigarettes | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
being in it. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:05 | |
Well, Reggie is a blackamoor stand and he's a revival | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
of a renaissance popular object | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
that was used for proffering exotic things | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
like sweetmeats in Renaissance times in the 15th century, and so on. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
And they were more exotic, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
they had turbans and so on, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
and black people were exotic and admired for that | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
and, therefore, as objects they were used to proffer exotic things. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
That exotic theme goes back to Greek and Roman times - | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
they've always been exotic - | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
and this is a revival in the 1920s and '30s | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
which fits in with what you're saying. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
But this isn't so much as for proffering something exotic, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
this was connected with the jazz era. Oh! | 0:22:57 | 0:23:03 | |
The Negro revues in Paris and the jazz age. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
And he represents a black bellboy that possibly would stand outside | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
a Parisian or London hotel, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
but the quality of this is unbelievable. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
You've got fruitwood here, you've got a kind of rosewood here, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
you've got coromandel here, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
you've got another wood as a sliver just joining the head and you've got | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
what looks to me like palm wood buttons and palm wood base. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:35 | |
And it's even got inlaid teeth. Yes. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
I mean, it's extraordinary. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
They're normally just, as I say, painted plywood, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
they're really boring, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
they're worth about ?40-?50, if you're lucky. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
But I can see this one gracing the apartment | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
of someone very fashionable | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
in Paris, this would have shown guests where they were, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
how fashionable they were, | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
cigarette smoking, as this one has been used for, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
as a sort of compendium, was "de rigueur", | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
it was the height of fashion. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
It's fantastic and it's great decoration, it's so period, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
it's very Art Deco and it's got a value. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Right. Horrible plywood ones are ?40 or ?50. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
One like this would be | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
?350. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Well done, Reggie. I love him. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
When one first looks at these you think, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
"Now, is that an oil or is it a watercolour?" | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
And then you look closely and then | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
you suddenly realise that it's stone. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
And I know it as "pietra dura", which means hard stone. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
Which, of course, is Italian, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
so tell me how they came to be with you from Italy? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
My father worked in Italy before the First World War and he hurriedly | 0:24:55 | 0:25:03 | |
came out of Italy and came back to Britain | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
to join the Army and he was able to bring these | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
and other paintings, so I know that | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
they came to this country just about before the First World War | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
or during the First World War. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
From Italy? From Italy, yeah. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Wonderful. Well, this type of picture | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
is one of my favourite mediums, if you like, because, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
to me, there's a lot of work in it, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
as all pictures are, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
but these are beautifully crafted, handcrafted stones. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Some of them are semiprecious stones, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
hard stones inlaid into a base which is usually either green, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
white or black marble. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
And then they are slotted in, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
they're like a mosaic but they're a large mosaic, if you like. Right. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
It was started in the 16th century, King Ferdinando I | 0:25:51 | 0:25:56 | |
started the Museo Del Lavoro in Rome | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
in 1588, and that's when it all started - | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
in the 16th century in Rome - | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
but later it became bigger and better in Florence until by | 0:26:06 | 0:26:12 | |
the middle of the 19th century, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
there was a famous chap called Giovanni Montelatici | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
and he was churning them out and they | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
went all over the world with tourists. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
So the likelihood is that Giovanni Montelatici, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
it came from his workshop in Florence | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
between 1864-1930 | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
so it could well have been circa 1900. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
So you've got lapis lazuli here, which is one of my favourites. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
What's your favourite? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
I think the green one. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
You know what the green is? | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
No. It's malachite. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Malachite, oh, is it? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Which is again a semiprecious stone, rather like the lapis. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
There are people that collect these and I think we're talking about, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
for the pair, ?1,500- ?2,000. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
That's good. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Good? I didn't think that, I just had them hanging for a long time. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
Do you like them? Yes, I do. Good. I LOVE them. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
Clearly not a book, it's a banner. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
It's painted, I think, in gouache on cotton or linen, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
obviously very large format, the legend at the foot, "Leadhills." | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
Large motto, "And leave the rest to heaven." | 0:27:30 | 0:27:34 | |
A symbolic column with a dove perched on the top. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
And at the foot, these are mining tools, surely. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
That's right, yes. There's a pick, shovel and a bucket. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Well, this is the banner of Leadhills Reading Society | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
and it was founded | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
in 1741, and it's the oldest subscription library in Britain. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
So this banner would have hung in the library at a certain point, | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
the library was founded in 1741. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
That's right, yeah. So, that makes it, certainly, yes, the earliest | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
subscription library in the British Isles. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
It does. That's exciting in itself. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
This is a little bit later, isn't it? Let's be clear, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
this doesn't date from the 18th century, I don't think. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
To me, this looks early 19th century, 1820s, 1830s. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
Tell me about Leadhills. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
Leadhills is a village on the Lanarkshire, Dumfriesshire border | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
in south-west Scotland, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
and the reason it's there is because | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
for about 300 years the Leadhills area was a major centre of | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
lead mining, and this was a library for the miners. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
This really excites me because what you're saying is this takes us right | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
to the beginning of that tradition which we perhaps began to | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
take for granted. Well, very much so. In Scotland, we're | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
particularly proud of the fact that library activity in the 18th-century | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
involved quite ordinary people like these lead miners, who were pick-men | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
or lead washers or smelters or whatever, | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
they were very ordinary people. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
I think it's a really wonderful piece, a very emotive piece. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
I think anyone who is interested in books, in reading, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
in literacy, to see something like this which somehow takes us back to | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
the very origins of the way in which | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
we interact with books is very exciting. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:18 | |
Hard to value, but I can think of lots of people | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
who'd be very excited by something like this. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
At auction, ?6,000- ?8,000. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
My trustees will be very interested to hear that. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Obviously it's not for sale, but we're delighted to hear that. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
If anyone was going to win a prize today at the Roadshow for the most | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
romantic husband, I think you would win it. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
Really? And it's all connected to a chair, so tell me how it started. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
Well, we bought this old basket chair at an auction for about ?5, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
and at the time, well, it was in a filthy state, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
so we needed it reupholstered | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
so, at the time we couldn't afford it, so we decided to put it in | 0:30:00 | 0:30:04 | |
the attic for five years or so, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
forgot about it, and then when we eventually decided to have it | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
reupholstered, my husband thought, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
to save money, he would strip the chair first. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
So, that's what he did and we had it upholstered, came back, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
looked lovely and then, come two months later, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
our wedding anniversary, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
he presented me with a diamond ring and said, | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
"Guess where I found this." | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
And he'd found it inside about three layers of cloth inside the chair. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
So it was hidden inside the chair? It was hidden inside the chair. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
And you've got the ring there? I've got the ring here, yes. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
There you are. So this is it? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
So he presents you with this... | 0:30:45 | 0:30:46 | |
The ring? ..at your anniversary? | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
Yeah, and then, come following Valentine's Day, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
he presents me with diamond earrings... | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
And again these were hidden inside the chair? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
Hidden inside the chair. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
And then also a brooch. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Is there any more to come? Well, that would be nice, wouldn't it? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
I don't think so, I think that was it, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
but obviously somebody hid them at one time | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
and forgot about them or died or... We just don't know. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
You have no idea why? No. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
Joe Hardy, our jewellery specialist, I know would love to see these, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
but no matter how much they're worth, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
just a lovely story, so romantic. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
You never know what you're going to find | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
when you buy something at auction. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
I bought a chair for a fiver at an auction, it's now | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
in my son's bedroom, it never occurred to me to look inside it. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
I would get it stripped and see what you might find! I might have to! | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
That's right. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Well, you could have been standing in the paintings queue, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
couldn't you? I could have, with these scenes of slightly bawdy life. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:50 | |
Well, certainly this scene here shows gentlemen sitting | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
around a table drinking punch from this punchbowl, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
this fellow here's taken a fall. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
He's obviously had too much. He's had too much. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
Well, I can tell you, this is James Figg, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
the 18th-century prize-fighter | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
of whom it was said only alcohol could knock him out. Oh! | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
We know who he is, in fact | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
we know who the others are, but I'm going to have to skip round to | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
the other side and show you this scene. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
This is Tom Rakewell. And who is he? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Tom Rakewell is the antihero of a series by William Hogarth. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:29 | |
OK. And in this scene from The Rake's Progress, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
he's cursing his luck at the gaming table, and just to reinforce this, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
this black dog is looking at him and the black dog in the 18th-century | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
meant the same as depression, the black dog today. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
So it's an ancient, ancient sign. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
Now, let's put the lid to one side and look at the scenes | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
on the base. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
Now, here you have a scene of | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
what is called the election entertainment. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
What is that? Well, when politicians wanted to make sure that a vote, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
like, for example, a referendum, went the right way, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
they treated the voters to a great feast, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
in the hope that they would... | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
Vote for them. Vote for me. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
The election agent has just been delivered a blow by a brick | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
that's come through a window. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:15 | |
But, best of all, for medics especially, is this gentleman here. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
He's just eaten a surfeit of oysters. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
And he's not feeling very well. He's not feeling very well, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
and so the local physician has come along with his cure, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
which is always to be bled. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
And the last one here is this, a violinist. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
You can just see he's holding a bow. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
He's flung open his window, because outside there is cacophony. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
All of these people are making a noise. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
The milkmaid has come to town, shouting, "Fresh milk!" | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
The pig gelder is blowing his horn, a man with a toothache, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
a man sharpening a cleaver, a boy with a drum... | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
And the only moment of silence, there, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
a girl with a rattle. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
She's stopped cos she's horrified by what she's seen. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
Now, this is where | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
the 18th century meets the 19th century. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
I've told you that these scenes are Hogarthian. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Yes. And they are all recognised scenes from Hogarth's works from | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
the 1720s right through to the 1750s. OK. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
But by the time we get to the 19th century, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
people are rather more precious about the raucous, bawdy, | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
18th-century world. About the bad behaviour. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
About bad behaviour. And in the original version, here, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
the reason she has stopped rattling her rattle is that this little lad | 0:34:33 | 0:34:39 | |
in his red coat is relieving himself in front of her. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
We have been spared that scene by the tasteful decorator, | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
and the tasteful decorator, what nationality was he? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
I thought he might be German, but he obviously isn't. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
You're absolutely right. He IS German. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Because, turn it upside down, | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
there is the mark of the Berlin Porcelain Factory. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
So the question is, why English scenes | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
of an 18th-century artist on the 19th-century bowl? | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
And the answer is - the Germans loved Hogarth. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
Hogarth became an internationally famous artist in his own lifetime. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
There was a huge Hogarth revival, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
both in England and in continental Europe in the 19th century, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
and this bowl probably dates to around 1850. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
Why would they put a horrible cherub on the top? A horrible cherub? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
My goodness! Well, English punch bowls are open punch bowls, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
because we drank cold punch, but the German punch is served warm. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
That's why there is a cover, | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
and if you've got a cover you've got to have a finial. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
Valuation... Well, it's damaged - that has an effect on value. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:52 | |
It's a lovely thing. I'm a Hogarth nut | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
so I would probably put quite a higher valuation than another of my | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
porcelain friends down there. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
I'm going to say it's probably worth somewhere in the region of | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
?600 to ?900. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
Wow. For something we keep corks and party poppers in. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
Now, where have you got these from? | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
These were hidden in a chair we bought at auction, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
and my husband gave them to me. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
My goodness me. Well, I don't know... | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
I wish I had a chair, A, that I could find jewellery in, and B, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
have presents given to me... | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
Well, let's start with this beautiful little flower brooch. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Why I love it so much is because of this... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
this real movement that these petals have. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
You know, the goldsmith has really spent some time | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
to try and replicate nature. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
And it's made in silver and gold, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
and they're cushion-shaped diamonds. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
And there's a couple of rose-cut diamonds, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
and it's made in about 1890, that sort of... | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
that sort of period. I would say, at auction, | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
you'd be looking at about ?1,200 to ?1,500 for that. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
Right. Gosh. So that's very nice, isn't it? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
Very nice Easter present, yes. So, now, that's the Easter present? | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
That was the Easter present, yes. OK. OK. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
So we've got this ring here. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Slightly later in style. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
It's platinum and 18-carat gold. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
It's got cushion-shaped diamonds and it's about 1900, the period. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
Right. Very pretty, charming... | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
You'd be looking at about ?500 to ?700 for that one. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
And then we have this pair of earrings. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
There are rather superb, aren't they? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
I would say there are just under a carat in weight, though, again, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
cut at about 1900. OK. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:42 | |
So it's all the same sort of period, these three, these three items. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:47 | |
Because of the inclusions, you know, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
you're only really looking at about ?2,000 to ?2,500... | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
I say "only". Yeah! | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
I mean, I say only... It's quite a lot. But... Yes. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
But for the size... | 0:37:59 | 0:38:00 | |
OK. So, for a chair that cost you how much? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
?5. ?5! | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
Well, a chair that cost you ?5, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
out popped a collection of jewellery | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
which is worth around about ?4,000 to ?5,000. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Yes. Wonderful. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Thank you. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
So I understand that you acquired this | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
from a well-known online auction website. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
Yes, yes. Quite brave, I would say. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
It certainly was. Can I ask what you know about it? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
What you bought it as, even? What did they describe it as? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
It was just described as antique wooden Guan Yu statue. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
And I lived in China for some time, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
so when I was there I was looking for a statue of Guan Yu, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
and they were all really tacky-looking. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
I couldn't find anything I liked, so when I came home and I saw that, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
and looking at the photographs of it, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
all the time I was in China, I didn't see anything as old as that. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
They all got destroyed or stolen during the revolution, | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
so when I saw that, immediately I had to have it. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
Right. And they described it as that. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
So, Guan Yu, the god of war. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
Yes. And he was around in the, sort of, eastern Han dynasty... | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
Mm-hmm. ..way back in 200 BC. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
What attracted you to it? | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
I mean, what... Why this particular one? | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Well, I'd been in China studying martial arts, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
and Guan Yu is prayed to by police, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
law enforcement, martial artists, and, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
ironically enough, Chinese Mafia. But just from the martial arts side | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
of it and from the Daoism side of it, | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
I'd been quite interested in him, and him being | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
such a prominent figure in China, that when I saw it, I just... | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
I had to have it. Also he is known to bring good fortune and knowledge | 0:39:36 | 0:39:41 | |
and wisdom as well, so I thought it'd be good for my shrine. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
Rub off on you? Yeah, yeah. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
So... Be a good influence on me. I'd better be a bit careful about my | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
valuation later, if you're a martial arts expert. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:39:51 | 0:39:52 | |
So I'm going to ask, what did you pay for it? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
He was asking for 360. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
I offered him 240 and he accepted it. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
There you go. Good at bartering, obviously. Or did you persuade him | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
in other ways? I learned my haggling in China, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
so I managed to get the price down. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
They can be particularly good at it. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
OK, so what is it? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:11 | |
Well, it's from the Ming Dynasty... | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Excellent. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
..which gives us a fairly broad range, going from, you know, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
anything from 14th century up to 17th century, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
but this one's 17th century. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
OK. And it's a carved wood figure, and I can see, you know, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
traces of old paint here, some traces of old red paint, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
and indeed some traces of blue paint there. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
It's a softwood that it's made of, and then... | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Which is why they've... They would have polychrome painted this, | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
so it would have been quite ornate, possibly with some gilts, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
but certainly, as we can see, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
there's rich blue and reds and maybe some other colours in there also. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
I really like the, sort of, stance of him, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
and I like the way he's kind of stroking... | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
pulling his beard to one side, you know, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
ready to make a decision about his next... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Very bold. Very bold, and looking to make a decision about his next battle | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
and what he's going to do to, you know, his... | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
his armies that he's up against, or what he's going to do with his army. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Well, look, he's a wonderful piece, desirable today, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
and I think if that came up for auction, | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
I like the condition and I think other people would like | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the condition. I think he'd carry a presale auction estimate | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
of between ?2,000 to ?3,000. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:20 | |
That's all right. That's not bad! | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Everybody's going on this auction website later. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:28 | 0:41:29 | |
He's not for sale. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
Now, earlier on in the programme, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
Fiona was talking about life here at New Lanark, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
and about the lives of people who lived here, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
and actually we've got a photograph | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
of a group of people relating to New Lanark. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:49 | |
Now, who are they? | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
Well, the gentleman on the left is my great-grandfather, James Purvie. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
The woman is my grandmother, Margaret Graham. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
She has in her arms my mother, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
also Margaret Graham, and my two uncles are the two other gentleman. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:12 | |
On... On either side. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
On either side. And how long were they involved here at New Lanark? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
The family originally arrived in New Lanark in 1820, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:23 | |
and my grandmother was the last to leave in 1920, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:29 | |
when she moved to Lanark to live with her son and daughter-in-law. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
So they were here for 100 years. 100 years. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
That is extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
And I'm trying to imagine life here in New Lanark. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
I mean, it must have been a hard life, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
but obviously comfortable in a way that, perhaps, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
a lot of other working folks didn't have it comfortable, | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
in that everything was provided for you. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
That is correct. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
I remember my grandmother telling me that with the electric light, | 0:42:57 | 0:43:03 | |
it went on at six o'clock in the morning | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
and it went off at ten o'clock at night. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
And they thoroughly enjoyed their life. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
It was a simple life. On the table in front of us, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
we've got a number of things which actually relate to... | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
to that life of your...your forebears. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
Now, what I love is this little Valentine card. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:23 | |
On the front, you've got a lovely verse, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
pretty flowers, gold decoration, and it looks like a... | 0:43:26 | 0:43:31 | |
..a little envelope. You can't open it. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
It was given by my grandfather to my grandmother the year before | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
they were married, and they were married in 1860. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
Perfect. So, I mean, by that time, actually, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
the exchange of Valentine cards was quite, quite the thing. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
Wonderful to have that. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
And then we've got two ale glasses here, pressed glass, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
probably made in Newcastle, dating from the 1850s. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
Then, the other things on the table I like very much, too, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
because they also tell another part of the story. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
Because here you have two Staffordshire hounds. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:08 | |
That was nothing to do with food. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
It was nothing to do with providing for the family. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:12 | |
That was TOTAL, unbridled luxury. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:18 | |
Yes. You could only consider having something in your house that was | 0:44:18 | 0:44:23 | |
decorative when every other necessity had been ticked off... | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
..and they were as excited about owning those | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
as any millionaire would have | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
been at owning a piece of Meissen. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
It said exactly the same thing in their house, | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
so, lovely to have that. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
So it tells a really lovely story. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
So it tells a really lovely story. | 0:44:44 | 0:44:45 | |
What do we do about valuing them? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:48 | |
Well, the little Valentine, perhaps worth ?40, ?50. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:53 | |
The rest of the things on the table | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
perhaps adding cumulatively to ?250. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
But to me it's all about using these few things here | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
to open the door and to be able to | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
look in on a wonderful piece of history, | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
and that is working life here at New Lanark. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
Thank you very much indeed. Thank you. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
This is almost like a picture frame to me, | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
because it helps me date the contents. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
And a red leather box of this style | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
and this shape often heralds a jewel | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
from the 1840s. And we open it up and, yes, absolutely bang on, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:52 | |
a magnificent suite of seed pearls. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:55 | |
Tell me all about it with you. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:56 | |
Well, I wore them when I got married. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:58 | |
My grandmother, Dad's mother wore them to his Government House balls | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
in New Zealand, erm, with the Governor General, obviously. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
And she said to me, "Oh, maybe you ought to wear some of that when you get married," | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
and I said, "Well, absolutely." | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
And then she says, "Well, you can't wear the necklace cos I've worn that, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:14 | |
"and that's not looking good any more, and you can't wear a bracelet." | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
So it ended up I wore the earrings and the hairpiece. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
Well, that's wonderful, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:21 | |
and in a way that's exactly the job for which this was designed, | 0:46:21 | 0:46:24 | |
because pearls are absolutely magical - | 0:46:24 | 0:46:26 | |
since time immemorial they've been associated with Venus, | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
because they are born of the shell and the sea, | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
and so they are one of her attributes, | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
and so always associated with the amatory significance of jewellery. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
And here are masses of sea pearls, and it's a miracle of craftsmanship, | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
because the allusion to the shell | 0:46:41 | 0:46:43 | |
and the sea is doubled up on the back. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
We can see that this is sawn mother of pearl, | 0:46:45 | 0:46:48 | |
this the shell of some sort of mollusc. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
Oh, I see. And so the allusion, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:54 | |
the metaphor is extended beyond that. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:56 | |
But it goes deeper still. | 0:46:56 | 0:46:58 | |
One might suggest that this was a wedding gift for a girl in 1840, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
because it encapsulates everything she would ever need in later life - | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
the necklace, the bracelets, the earrings, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
and this frontlet - a tiara, if you like. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:11 | |
Were you frightened by it when you wore it or not? | 0:47:11 | 0:47:14 | |
No, not at all. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:15 | |
And then looking back now, 24 years later, | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
I'm thinking maybe that was a bit of a stupid thing to do. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:20 | |
Yeah, oh, no, well, it is horribly fragile, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
and actually one of the miracles | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
of discovering it today in such stunning condition | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
is that pieces turn up all the time and they're always broken, | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
and it's a great challenge to restore them, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
but I'm completely fascinated by the concept of you wearing it at your | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
wedding, because I think that you were acting instinctively here. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
There is an extended metaphor beyond the pearls. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
This is a...a sprig of roses. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
The central rose is en tremble - literally trembling | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
on a watch spring here. Yeah. The rose, too, | 0:47:51 | 0:47:54 | |
is sacred to Venus. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
And so there is a double emblem of love, | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
but equally these are ivy leaves, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
and ivy in the language of flowers is emblematic of marriage. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
Oh, I didn't know that. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
But the rose is good cos that was my maiden name. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
Was it? Oh, that's even better, isn't it? | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
So a piece of jewellery of huge amatory significance. | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
Where was it made? That's a big problem. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:16 | |
I think technically it's difficult to imagine that this is London work, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:20 | |
and I don't think anybody's pinpointed exactly where | 0:48:20 | 0:48:23 | |
these things were made, but maybe | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
perhaps somewhere in the Empire. But retailed in London. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:29 | |
I mean, this is... Or at least in the United Kingdom. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
This is an English box. It is. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:33 | |
And... | 0:48:33 | 0:48:34 | |
And a thrilling survival doing its job, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
the very job that it was supposed to do in 1840, doing it for you, | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
and possibly doing it for future generations. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
That would be wonderful too. Do you think it would hold together for future generations? | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
Well, frankly, no! | 0:48:46 | 0:48:48 | |
I think you've got to be hugely, hugely careful of it. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
It's immensely fragile. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
What we should say is that each element is actually strung with | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
horsehair onto a background of mother of pearls, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
and once the horsehair is broken, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
it's enormously difficult to restore it. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Here we can see that somebody's attempted it with a bit of cotton. | 0:49:04 | 0:49:07 | |
But this is collectors' jewellery, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:10 | |
and any collector would be very pleased to give you | 0:49:10 | 0:49:13 | |
well, in the region of ?7,000 for it, in my view. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:16 | |
Wow. Oh, right. OK. That's lovely. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:20 | |
Quite surprising. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:21 | |
Well, you have to admit, it's a very smart-looking, quality, | 0:49:25 | 0:49:31 | |
typically Art Deco cocktail watch. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:33 | |
Did you used to wear it regularly? I used to wear it a while ago, | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
but then I was given by my husband a nice new Rolex for having my second | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
child, so it's not really been worn since then. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
Well, that's a shame, isn't it? | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
It is. So you did used to wear it fairly regularly, and | 0:49:45 | 0:49:50 | |
the only thing I can fault on it at the moment | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
is that the strap is later. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:54 | |
It would have had a lovely black moire strap, | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
and you can imagine very elegant ladies in the '30s | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
wearing this sort of thing. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
The flappers would all have worn this sort of thing, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:06 | |
and that is seriously nice. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
Do you know anything about it? It was my godmother's, | 0:50:08 | 0:50:11 | |
and she gave it to me, and I used to play with it as a wee girl. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
You played with it? OK. I played with it. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
So you haven't actually opened it up and had a look at it. Oh, no. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
Oh, no. I didn't even know it opened. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
OK, OK, well, let's have a proper look here for you. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
That opens like that. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:28 | |
OK. And I'm just going to tease this movement out... | 0:50:28 | 0:50:32 | |
..and we can just pop it down there, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
and there you will see the magic name Rolex. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:42 | |
Oh! So you didn't realise it was a Rolex? | 0:50:42 | 0:50:45 | |
No, no, not at all. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:46 | |
OK. Well, not only is it Rolex, but it says "observatory quality", | 0:50:46 | 0:50:53 | |
so it is one of their really beautiful movements. Oh. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
And the case is also signed Rolex Watch Co, platinum. | 0:50:57 | 0:51:03 | |
So what we've got here is a lovely platinum endowment case, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
and this serial number on the back here... | 0:51:08 | 0:51:11 | |
..tells me... I'll just have to use this loop. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:16 | |
Very roughly, it's just in excess of 64,000. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:21 | |
That equates to a date of manufacture 1934, 1935. Wow. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:27 | |
Now, the Rolex company was started | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
in the early part of the 20th century. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:32 | |
In 1926 they produced the first Oyster, | 0:51:32 | 0:51:35 | |
the first waterproof wristwatch, | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
and in 1931 the Oyster Perpetual, which is what you're wearing now - | 0:51:38 | 0:51:42 | |
a modern version of the Oyster Perpetual. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
So that... | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
..type of watch was around before they made this. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:51 | |
Wow. But this is lovely. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
So... | 0:51:55 | 0:51:56 | |
Fully signed by Rolex. Lovely diamonds - | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
and these are not just chips, these are proper diamonds - | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
and I'll just slide it all back in. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
There we go. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:08 | |
Which would you rather have? As I look at your husband there... | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
They've both got very good sentimental value, so... | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
OK. I'll keep them both. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:19 | |
Roughly, how long have you had that one for? | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
21 years. 21 years. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:23 | |
OK. Well, this is, as we said, rather older. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
80-odd years. If you walked into a jeweller's or a saleroom, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:32 | |
they'd probably be looking at something between 2,500 and ?3,000. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:36 | |
Wow. Oh, wow. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
What pleases me is that I've shown you that it is Rolex, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
and you didn't realise you were | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
replacing one Rolex with another, did you? | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
No, I did not. I definitely did not. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:48 | |
Thank you very, very much. Thank you. Thank you. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
So, this is my 11th season on the Antiques Roadshow, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
and it's quite common when approaching a show, | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
when arriving at a show, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
to think in your wildest dreams what would you like to have brought in? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:08 | |
And this is the first time it's ever | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
happened that my dream has come true. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
So, what we have is an Irish decanter dating from about 1800... | 0:53:15 | 0:53:20 | |
..that has a legend behind it that | 0:53:22 | 0:53:24 | |
locks it right here to the people of Lanark. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
So I'm really grateful to you for bringing this in, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
and the reason that I thought about the "Land We Live In" decanter | 0:53:30 | 0:53:37 | |
is that they were used by Irish people abroad, | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
and if you look where we are in this mill, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
many of the employees would have been Irish. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
The Irish were driven out of their homeland by poverty, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
and came over to Scotland and worked in cotton, worked in the mills. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
That's an absolute classic. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
Thousands of Irish worked in the Scottish mills. | 0:53:56 | 0:53:59 | |
So where does it fit into YOUR life? | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
Well, I particularly like glass, | 0:54:03 | 0:54:05 | |
and I saw this in an antiques shop in the Grassmarket in Edinburgh, | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
it must be 15 or 20 years ago. | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
My brother is married to an Irish girl, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
and I recognised it as being Irish, and so I persuaded... | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
I didn't have the money to buy it, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:18 | |
but I persuaded my mother to buy it for him as a Christmas present. | 0:54:18 | 0:54:20 | |
It wasn't expensive. It'd be maybe ?50, maybe ?60 at the most, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:24 | |
but I'd thought it was unusual and rare. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
So therefore it belongs to my brother, but it doesn't live | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
in his house, because he's got grandchildren, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
so it stays in my mum's house where it's safe, as does the stopper, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
which I didn't bring today. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
So that's the story behind it. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:38 | |
OK, well, let's examine what we're looking at. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
So we have a decanter with the legend, "The land we live in," here, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
with the initials of the owner, WJ, here, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
and if we turn it round to here, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:52 | |
we have further wheel engraving, where we have the shamrock | 0:54:52 | 0:54:56 | |
and the thistle, | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
so this has locked it down to Irish-Scottish. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
There's the connection. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
So the meaning of this, "The land we live in," | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
is a toast, so you'd lift the glass, and you'd say, | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
"The land we live in," | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
and then you'd turn | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
round to the riposte, which is, "To the land we left behind." | 0:55:18 | 0:55:23 | |
Oh. They lived here! | 0:55:23 | 0:55:25 | |
They lived in Lanark. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:26 | |
They worked at the mills here, | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
and Ireland was the land they left behind, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
so those were the two toasts that this speaks of. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
Now, these are generally Cork Glass Co, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:38 | |
that's where most of them come from. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
There was one that was sold about ten years ago, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
at the peak of the Irish glass craze. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
It became the most expensive decanter ever sold at auction. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
Which, bearing in mind how rustic and... | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
..poor the glass is, really, | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
this isn't sold on the virtues of the splendid glass, | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
this is sold on the sentiment. Yes. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:03 | |
So that decanter sold for 14,000 euros at the time. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:07 | |
The Irish market's fallen back now, | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
but, nonetheless, the decanter that you bought in those days for | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
50 to 60 quid is worth between ?600 and ?800 | 0:56:14 | 0:56:18 | |
with its stopper at auction. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
So, what's the best thing to do with it now? Fill it up. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:25 | 0:56:26 | |
That's my kind of thinking! | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
Of all the things that have been brought along to the Roadshow today, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
what I was REALLY hoping to see was | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
items that belonged to the people | 0:56:38 | 0:56:39 | |
who used to live and work here, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:41 | |
when this place was a thriving | 0:56:41 | 0:56:43 | |
cotton manufacturer's, and, as you've seen, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:46 | |
their homes were so tiny, and people | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
were so tightly packed into them, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:49 | |
they didn't have neither room | 0:56:49 | 0:56:51 | |
nor money for objects. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
But, in fact, a few things HAVE turned up today. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
They've been very humble, but nonetheless treasured for that. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
From the Antiques Roadshow here at New Lanark, bye-bye. | 0:57:00 | 0:57:04 |