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Hello and welcome to Cash in the Attic.

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We treasure family possessions that have been handed down the generations,

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but in the end there comes a time when you just

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have to have a clear out, even if it's to make some more space.

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And that's when we're often called in, to help sort out the wheat from the chaff.

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Coming up on Cash In The Attic, my valuation for a Victorian miniature dictionary is spot on.

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Jonty, I've never, ever been right before. Ever.

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No. There's always a first.

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And our host tells us what she had in mind for some silver and maybe even gold watches.

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I always remember them being in a drawer

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and I put them in a box and I was going to throw them out.

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At auction she gets very excited after a particularly good sale.

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-Isn't that fantastic?

-That's wonderful.

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-Here I come, Canada.

-It's one to remember when the hammer falls.

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-224.

-Today, I'm in Hampshire.

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I'm on my way to meet Karen Ross,

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who wants to raise some money for a very special trip.

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Karen's house is home to many family heirlooms she's inherited from her parents.

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Her German mother and English father were both keen collectors.

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She and her husband, Malcolm have three children - Kerry, Danielle and Adam, plus two grandchildren.

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Karen and Malcolm will be celebrating

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their silver wedding anniversary next year and that's why we've been called in.

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Jonty Hearnden is with me today, and he's itching to start valuing the family's treasures.

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Helping her mum is eldest daughter, Kerry.

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-Hello?

-Hi!

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-Karen? Yes.

-Yes, it is.

-And Kerry?

-Yes.

-Well, it's very nice to be here,

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thank you for inviting us.

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-You're very welcome.

-Did you do that, or did you put her up to it?

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-That was me.

-So why have you put your mum up to this?

-Well, she's hoping to go to Canada next year.

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It's not the cheapest destination to fly to, so we thought it would help towards the air fare.

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-Why Canada especially?

-I've family over there.

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I've got two cousins that emigrated over there in the '70s

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and we thought we'd like to go and see them. Do New York as well and it's our 25th wedding anniversary.

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Ah! There we are.

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So, it's a silver wedding anniversary celebration?

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It certainly is.

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-So, how much do you think you might be able to raise?

-Probably about £400.

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-All right. Do you think we can do it?

-Yes!

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OK. Let's go and have a look. Show me around the house, will you?

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Karen's parents both had an eye for collecting.

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So, hopefully, that means we should find plenty of valuable possessions

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to raise the money for that special trip. Jonty's had a chance to have a quick look around and something

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has earned his seal of approval.

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I love it. We have a little natter and he gets stuck in. This is Karen.

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-Hi, there. How are you doing?

-Very well, thank you.

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Well, I have found a really interesting collection of stamps. Whose are these?

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-They belonged to my dad.

-Lovely.

-So can we sell them?

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-Yes.

-Have a look at those, Jen.

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What an old-fashioned hobby this seems to me!

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Though, I don't know, do people still collect stamps a lot?

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-They do and it's a growing market all of a sudden.

-Is it?

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It went through a quiet period, but now it's really quite big business all over again.

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Coins and stamps are at the top of the tree in collecting.

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So, do you remember your dad sitting at the table going through his stamps?

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-Yes. All the time.

-It was a real passion?

-It was, yes.

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Now, I see a lot of collections of stamps and a lot of them are of used stamps.

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Sometimes from around the world, but they have so little value, but because all of these

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are in such good condition,

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most of them are in mint, if not all of them are in mint condition, then they do have value.

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-Any really rare ones?

-I haven't found any particularly rare stamps.

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Let the dealers... Let the people who really know their market, let them decide.

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But I think that our collection's worth roughly

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between £50 and £100 at auction.

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-Good start!

-That is a good start.

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-I'll put these away.

-You can lead us on to somewhere else.

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Where shall we go next? Come along, Jonty.

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Wait for me. Wait for me!

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Fingers crossed there'll be some philatelists bidding on the day.

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People are always storing things away and then forgetting about them, so I make a habit

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of rummaging around wherever I can to see

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if there is anything worth taking to auction.

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A search of the cupboard under the stairs proves fruitful for Karen,

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as she finds a Carlton ware biscuit barrel in the shape of a cottage.

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Her mother bought it from Woolworths in the late '60s and she remembers it on display in the kitchen,

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along with this matching butter dish.

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They've never been used. Their estimate today is £10 to £20.

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'I love discovering new words, so I'm delighted with my very dainty find on the window sill.'

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Oh, look what I have here. It's extraordinary!

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-Look. It comes in its own little box.

-How lovely.

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-It's an English dictionary. Are there really all the words in there? I can't see it.

-I think so.

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-Can you read it?

-Not with MY eyes. No.

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Well, YOU won't be able to either.

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Well, the lid of the case here, should be

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-a magnifying glass.

-You've seen one like this before?

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Yes, I have. But on the back...

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What have we got here?

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30th of the 12th '93. What do you know about this?

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Well, I always remember it being tucked away. It belonged to my nan or my granddad.

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We were never allowed to touch it.

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If you open up the inside cover,

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which will be very, very difficult to do, you have to be so careful,

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-but it does say the smallest English dictionary in the world. Can you just see that?

-Yeah.

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You said the 30th of the 12th, '93?

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-That's right.

-1893?

-1893, yeah.

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Amazing!

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That really is superb.

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Now, it's lost... There is a little catch here, which would allow you to just swivel this around.

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So it's technically broken, but the case here is hallmarked, so this is a silver case.

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-What do you think it might be worth?

-I don't know, £30 or £40.

-OK. So, Jen, what do you think?

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Well, I'd like to think, I really would like to pay £100...

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£200 for it. That's what I think.

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-Well, you're spot on.

-Am I?!

-I will stop you there

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because that's the sort of price I would put on it - between £100 and £200.

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Because it's damaged, I'm not really quite sure. Got to let the market decide.

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-Jonty, I've never been right before. Ever.

-No. There's always a first.

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It's only taken about ten years!

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And when that tiny offering goes before the bidders, they like it big time.

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Any advance on 90, 110?

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But we'll have to wait a little longer to find out

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what words the auctioneer utters before he brings down the gavel.

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224.

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As we all get on with the business in hand, Kerry decides to tackle this chest of drawers.

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'But what catches my eye is this pretty little heart-shaped compact.

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'It has a Japanese scene on the lid and Karen thinks that her father may have brought it back from Singapore

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'where he was stationed when he was in the RAF. He'd always bring back gifts for his wife.

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'It was made specifically for the tourist trade,

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'which is reflected in the estimate of just £20 to £30.'

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What have you got there?

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A camera of some description.

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Ah! So, whose camera was this?

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I think that it belonged to my granddad

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that was given to him by my nan's father, who was German.

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What we need to do is have a jolly good look at the camera. I need to take it

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out of the leather casing to see if we can have a good look.

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There we go. I've just seen on the back there "Franka" and it says "Made in Germany, US zone."

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So that's obviously post the Second World War,

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but this particular range-finder camera was probably an early '50s version.

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So probably around the time that your grandparents got together.

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I would imagine so, and I would imagine it was a gift of some description.

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And this was a very popular make of camera in Germany.

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They started at the beginning of the 20th century and they finished in 1966.

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On a good day, we are looking at £20 or £30.

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But on a bad day, we might not get a bid. So shall we give it a try? Let's be positive.

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-Yeah, take it.

-Great!

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Let's hope we do make that estimate to help us

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reach the goal of £400 towards the silver anniversary trip to Canada.

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In fact, going by Jonty's lowest estimates up to now, we stand to make £200 at auction.

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So we decide to leave our expert to it for a while an take the weight off our feet.

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-We're doing quite well so far, but we deserve a break, don't we?

-Yes.

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-How did you meet your husband, Malcolm?

-Malcolm, met him in a pub

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in Winchester and, as I say, next year we've been married 25 years.

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-And was it love at first sight?

-He'd probably say no,

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but I've grown on him, I think, over the years, yeah.

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I can see just from the two of you that you're obviously a very, very close family.

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You don't live here anymore, but you seem to pop round quite a lot?

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Yeah, I'm just down the road, so any opportunity and she's home, we'll pop in. Cup of tea.

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Do you like having the kids around?

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I love it. Sundays are wonderful. We always have Sunday lunch together and they're always here.

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The house is always full.

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-I just love having them around, especially my two grandchildren.

-I bet.

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How wonderful!

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Now, you look through and through British to me, but in fact,

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your mother was German. Did she teach you the language?

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She didn't, which made my dad quite cross.

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I used to pick it up when we went on holiday, then obviously

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we'd come home and I'd forget it, but he learned to speak German quite fluently,

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but, no, I do know a little bit, but not enough to get by, I don't think.

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So, the family you're going to see in Canada, are they from the German side or your father's?

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No, they're from my dad's side.

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We recently went to a 90th birthday party, my aunt's, and her two sons came over from Canada.

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They both emigrated in the '70s and they always said, you know,

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"If you want to come over, come and visit," so that's what we want to do.

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Well, hopefully we'll be able to get them there and they'll have 25 years of planning to pack into the trip.

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Kerry's been having a thorough search of the kitchen and has come across a Royal Albert tea set.

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Her German grandmother bought it to sit in her display cabinet, along with lots of other similar pieces.

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They all remember dreading being roped in to help on dusting day.

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Unfortunately, this set is not complete, but we hope it'll raise at least £20 to £40 on the day.

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And Jonty's keen eye has spotted this silver pill box with a flip-up lid.

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It has a Birmingham hallmark, which dates it at about 1910.

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It's another of Karen's mother's possessions,

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but she believes it may have belonged to her grandmother and been handed down.

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Jonty's estimate is £10 to £20.

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-I've got some watches, Jonty. Can I show you?

-Yeah, sure.

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-Hidden away.

-They are.

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-I don't know whether they're...any good.

-Let's have a look.

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Ooh, we have a complete collection.

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We've got four. One little pocket watch. That's the oldest one, of course.

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So, where do they come from?

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-From my dad's side, I believe.

-Shall we have a look at them on the bed?

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We can have a look.

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So, that would be dated around the turn of the century. That's roughly 100-years-old.

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-Really?

-You can tell it by the style.

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This one here is a nice watch here.

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This is a wristwatch that would have been made between the wars. This is made by JW Benson,

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who were very important clock and watchmakers

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towards the end of the 19th century and well into the 20th century.

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They had royal warrants and they had shops in Bond Street, etc.

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I assume that that isn't a gold case, but we need to test it first.

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So that is what that is all about.

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Then these two here look like they're post-war.

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So, do you remember your dad wearing any of these at all?

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No. I always remember them being in a drawer.

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I actually put them in a box

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and I was going to throw them out and a friend said "No, don't throw them out.

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"What's your rubbish, somebody else could be interested in."

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That's really good news you didn't throw them away. Very sound advice

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because they do have some value.

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Not a great deal, but we are looking here

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at between £20 and £40 at auction.

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-For something I was going to throw away. That'll be OK.

-So, you're happy to do that?

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Absolutely. I'm glad I kept them now.

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And if Jonty's hunch about the JW Benson watch

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being gold is correct, who knows what the sale price will be?

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He's staying upstairs, but Karen has found some Beswick horses.

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There are four of them in total and they belong to her mother.

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This Staffordshire-based pottery company was famous for its ceramic animal figures.

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It started in 1894, but all production ceased in 2002.

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I've seen so many examples of Beswick selling for high prices at auction.

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So this could be a great find for Karen.

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The estimate for this little lot is £30 to £40.

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Guys, look what I found for you.

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Come have a look.

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-What have you got?

-A pair of watercolours.

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There we go. Where were they from?

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They were my dad's and he used to have them in the lounge at home.

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They were there for years. Pride of place.

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Not pride of place in your house?

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No. I like them, but they don't go with what I've got.

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So rather than put them up in the loft, they've been in the drawer.

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-What do you think of them, Kerry?

-I think they're a little boring, to be fair.

-I do have to agree.

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There's the most enormous expanse of rather boring sky.

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-There is, isn't there?

-I tend to agree with you.

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I'm holding my hand up, these are not most exciting pictures I've ever seen.

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But what is exciting is that we've got a signature down at the bottom.

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There's one faint here, but there's one very clear here, A Hulk.

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In fact there were two artists, they were both Abraham. One was senior, one was junior.

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His father was a known artist, but Abraham Jr was much better known,

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and he did oil paintings and he also did watercolours.

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He also exhibited at the Royal Academy towards the end of the 19th century.

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-So he's a well-known artist.

-That's great. That's really good, isn't it?

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So, our incredible A Hulk pictures with the signature, let's hope that we can get between £100 and £200.

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-Well, that's brilliant. No, that's lovely. Thank you.

-OK.

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Well, I think, actually, that means we can end our day of rummaging. Have you enjoyed yourselves?

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Had a lovely day, thank you, yes.

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We were looking for £400 at the start of the day

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to try and send your on your way to Canada for your silver wedding.

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Well, based on Jonty's lowest estimates, you're not quite there,

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but things could change on auction day.

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-We hope you'll get £380.

-That's all right, isn't it?

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-Yeah.

-Excellent. Lovely, thank you.

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-Not bad for a day's work, is it?

-Not at all. No.

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And you never know, we may do even better, because going to the saleroom

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will be that miniature English dictionary

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in a silver box, complete with its own magnifying glass.

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I have high hopes for this at £100 to £200.

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And there's Karen's father's stamp collection,

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including many first-day covers.

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It could bring us £50 to £100.

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And what about the four watches?

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They were valued at £20 to £40, but if one of them does turn out to be gold, as Jonty suspects,

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Karen and her husband could be flying to Canada first class.

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Still to come on Cash In The Attic, will the bidders be impressed

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as I am about one of our very special items?

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Now, this is absolutely, positively my favourite lot.

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A no sale turns this auction into a bit of a roller coaster.

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That's a bit of a knock-back, actually, as it's a big hole in your target.

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Join us for the ride until the hammer finally falls.

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224.

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Well, that was quite a busy day we spent with Karen.

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We found some interesting pieces to put towards the silver wedding anniversary fund.

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Today we brought them here to Duke's Auctioneers in Dorchester,

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where we're hoping to beat that target of £400 and send her off to Canada in style.

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The historic and very pretty county town of Dorset has much to attract antique hunters.

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Duke's general sales take place every three weeks in the Grove.

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Now, if you're interested in buying or selling at auction, do bear in mind that charges

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such as VAT and commission will be added to your bill, so it's always worth checking

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with the saleroom first.

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I'm glad you're in here because it's pouring with rain outside.

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-You have your lovely paintings.

-Certainly have.

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-Yeah.

-I wasn't sure they were so lovely, cos there's a bit too much sky,

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-but they're kind of growing on me.

-Are you going to miss them?

-No.

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Very positively said.

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What about reserves? Are you going to put reserves on the pictures at all?

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I've left it to the auctioneer.

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-So he has discretion?

-Yes.

-I think they probably will sell, don't you?

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Let's hope. I never really can tell.

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No. Let's hope so.

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Karen and Kerry have never been to an auction,

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so we want to try to give them a really positive experience.

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The first of their family heirlooms to come up is some Carlton ware, which has an estimate of £10 to £20.

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-Where are they from?

-They were from my mum, and she bought them

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-from Woolworths.

-That might be a bit vintage.

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Yes, it will be now that Woolworths is closed.

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£10 to start. £5 is bid. £5.

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£8 anyone?

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5, 8, 10.

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10, anyone want? At 8. 10. 12.

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14, 16. 18. 20.

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-That sounds better, doesn't it?

-Yes, it sounds much better.

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-I've got £18. I'll take £20 from anyone now, if you will.

-Please.

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Selling at £18. £20 right at the back, thank you, sir.

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Last minute, £20. Going then now at £20 at the back of the room.

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-Thank you, sir.

-Wasn't that good?

-Not too bad at all.

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A perfect place to sell, here in Dorchester, because the whole surrounding area

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seems to be full of little cottages just like that one. So, good.

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A great start, and Kerry's very excited already.

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So how's their next lot going to fare?

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It's the mid-20th century German Franka camera in a leather case.

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I was a little wary

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about whether it would sell or not.

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-Hmm.

-How do you feel about it now?

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I'm a little bit nervous that it won't, but I don't want to take it home.

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£10, please, for this old camera.

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10 is bid. 10. 12 anywhere now then?

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I have £10. £10. £10. Old camera.

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Interesting, what a nice collection it might make! Old cameras.

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He's trying. He's trying.

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I'm flogging the proverbial dead horse here. Going at £10, 12.

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Anyone for 12? 14 anyone now then? 14 anyone? Nope?

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-Please.

-All done?

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Unsold, I'm afraid.

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I don't want to take it home!

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Never mind. Never mind.

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The auctioneer obviously thought that the camera was worth more

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than the £12 it reached today.

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So, it's a no-sale for us.

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I love this little compact. It's a pretty little thing.

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The shape of the heart. It's lovely. Where did it come from?

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That was a present from my dad to my mum.

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I know she had it for sort of over 30 years, but it's very, very pretty.

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I put £20 to £30, so let's see if we can get that.

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-Let's hope so.

-10. 12.

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14. Any advance on £14? 16, anyone.

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At 16 is bid. 16. 18.

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-Please.

-I'll do 18.

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20 for you, ma'am? I've got £18.

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I'll take 20 now then.

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Selling and going at £18, we're done.

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-Never mind.

-18.

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That's not bad. It's not too bad. That's OK.

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Well, I don't think we can grumble at that.

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I wonder if it is going to become a special gift for a sweetheart again.

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Now it's time for those four watches, and Jonty has some good news.

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One of the watches is a gold watch.

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I've put £20 to £40 on the whole collection, but I'm convinced that it should do

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a lot more than that.

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£60, will you say? 60. 70 commission. 80.

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90. 100. 110. 120. 130.

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140. 160. 170. 180. 190. 200.

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We're out at 210. 220. 230. 240.

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£230 this stands. Any further bids?

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I can't believe it.

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OK, then. £230.

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I can't believe I nearly threw them in the bin!

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-I'm going to cry!

-You are, aren't you?

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I can't believe it.

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-How about that?

-Oh, my God. I was going to throw them out!

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-Oh, my goodness.

-Isn't that fantastic?

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That's wonderful.

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Here I come, Canada.

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It just goes to show, even damaged or broken collectibles could still have a useful sale value.

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I expect Karen's counting her blessings that she didn't ditch these in the bin.

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And she's just about time to compose herself before the next of her lots comes up.

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I'm feeling quite hopeful about this lot of all your stamp collection, which was your father's

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-stamp collection.

-That's right.

-A lot of them were in good condition.

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-I put on £50 to £100, so let's see what happens in the room.

-30.

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Five at the back, thank you, sir.

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35. 40. 45.

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55. 60. 65.

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75.

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85. 95.

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100.

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-I think I'm going to cry.

-Going at 110. On the side at 110.

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That's brilliant. I'm very happy with that.

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I'm sure her father would have been delighted

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that his prized collection sold so well, helping bring about a family reunion.

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Karen's almost made her target already, but we'll keep that as a nice surprise for later.

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The incomplete Royal Albert tea set is coming up next.

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My mother always told her off because she always tried to get it out of the cabinet to play with it.

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And now she's going to give it away!

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Have a bid at this. £5 to start me.

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A fiver is bid. Ten now then?

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A nice lot of pots here at £10.

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-Please!

-12. Any advance on 12? 14. Are we done at £14?

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16 anyone?

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-That's OK.

-I have 14.

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16 is bid. Are we done at £16?

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If there is no further bid, we go at 16.

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Thank you very much.

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-You will never play with it!

-No.

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Poor Kerry. Still, she never has to get roped into

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dusting it again, so that's a bonus.

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Another lot that belonged to Karen's mum is about to come up.

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It's those four Beswick horses with an estimate of £30 to £40.

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Yours, I sell for £50.

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A very good result. I knew we could rely on Beswick

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to do well for us.

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Now it's those two watercolours by A Hulk Jr,

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the prolific Victorian artist who exhibited at the Royal Academy.

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So, even if Karen and Kerry are not keen, maybe an art lover will still snap them up.

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I've put them on at £100 to £200.

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They're worth that, but we are selling them here at a general sale.

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So are they going to be picked up by the people in the room?

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Are they going to fully appreciate what they are looking at?

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Not quite sure. We're about to find out.

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At 50. 60, 70.

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Any advance on 70? £70 for these.

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80. Anyone, now, then. Come on, 80 anywhere.

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Everybody done at £70.

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So, those are unsold.

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That's a bit of a knock-back actually,

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cos it's a big hole in your target!

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The auctioneer obviously decided £70 wasn't enough for them.

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This is turning into a classic roller coaster ride,

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and when the early 20th century silver pill box,

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a family heirloom from Karen's mother,

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comes up for £10 to £20...

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I'm going at £40. Everybody out at £40?

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..it's double the top estimate.

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So there are smiles all round again. And it's taken us to our final lot.

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Now this is absolutely, positively my favourite lot.

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Your gorgeous, tiny little dictionary! Very ancient.

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I do hope it sells well. We want at least £100 for it.

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What I have got for this, start me off, please at £70 to get on with it. 70's bid.

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80 I'll take now then. At 70.

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80? 80.

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90. Any advance on 90? 100,

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110. Any advance on 110?

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120, 130 now then. 120, 130, 140.

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£140, and now at £140.

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Is everybody out and clear?

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To go at £140. Thank you very much.

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That's fine. That's lovely. I am really, really pleased.

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-That's excellent.

-That is fantastic!

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-No, I'm really, really happy with that.

-Good.

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What a great result and a really fantastic way

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to end Karen and Kerry's day here.

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Am I going to Canada?

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-You know you are, and some!

-You've done brilliantly.

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You were looking for £400 to get to Canada for your silver wedding.

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Well, you can go home and tell your hubby, that actually, you've made £624.

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Brilliant. Excellent. That's lovely.

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-That's lovely. Thank you.

-What a journey we have had today!

-We certainly have, yeah.

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I feel like I've been to Canada and back.

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It just remains for us really to wish you a very happy silver wedding.

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I'm absolutely delighted. Thank you.

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-Great result.

-Absolutely brilliant.

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Thank you.

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Karen and her husband Malcolm are planning how to spend their auction earnings.

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They brought grandson Louis for a walk in the park while they discuss

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their silver wedding anniversary trip to Canada and America.

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We want to do Niagara Falls when we get there.

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With having family out there, it is great to catch up with them.

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They're planning to sort the itinerary a little bit and the journey will end

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with a trip to New York and we'll fly back from there.

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Once Karen's done her inevitable shopping,

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-of course.

-I'm going to do lots of shopping, I can assure you.

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And what about their children and grandchildren?

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-Will they be going with them?

-No.

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We will make sure that we spend lots of money on them

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and bring them back lots of little pressies and that'll be lovely.

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It will be a wrench not to have them with us,

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but we're having the opportunity to have some time for ourselves.

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But a nice family meal before we go, I think, to celebrate 25 years will be brilliant,

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-and you'll be a part of that, won't you?

-Absolutely.

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