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Now, we've all got things tucked away in cupboards

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or in the attic.

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Treasures that have been forgotten about for many years.

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But if you take a closer look, you might just find something

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of real value.

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Something a collector will be waiting for.

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I have an automatic gold detector in my fingertips!

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Over the last 11 years on the show,

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you've literally brought in thousands of items

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for our experts to wax lyrical over.

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And now I want to share some of that knowledge with the rest of you

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to help you get in the know.

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On today's show, we're looking back at childhood memories.

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-It's lovely, isn't it?

-Where did you get it from?

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And lifting the lid on some items

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to which there's more than meets the eye.

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Wow!

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Look at that fantastic workmanship.

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We'll be looking at two kinds of everyday possessions -

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boxes and toys.

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What have you all brought in? Look!

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We've all got them lying around the house

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and we'll show you just how valuable they can be to collectors.

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Boxes aren't always what they seem.

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They can be full of surprises,

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if you know the ins and outs.

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Wow!

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When it comes to toys, we'll tell you just what to look out for.

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This is all her original dress, which is marvellous.

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Wonderful glass eyes. Later, they were plastic.

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If we knock them against our teeth, we can tell they're glass.

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Elizabeth Talbot shares her top tips on the king of soft toys.

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Gorgeous! He's waving, look.

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And Philip Serrell really demonstrates his expertise.

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-I think these were made in Germany.

-Right.

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-Do you know how I know that?

-No.

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I know that because it says here, "Made in Germany"!

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I'm an all-seeing expert here, Norman!

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One of my favourite toys from my childhood has to be my Dinky and Corgi cars.

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Every time I see one at a Flog It valuation day,

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it brings back memories of a happy childhood for me.

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I think that's what the collectors are looking for.

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Evocative of a time before computer games

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when you had to use your own imagination to play with your toys.

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But what separates a collectable classic

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from something of just sentimental value?

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Things that are original and retain their original packaging

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and is in as good a condition as possible are more valuable.

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So often, especially with Dinky toys,

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a Dinky toy might be worth £50, but the box it came in might be worth 100.

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I suppose that's condition, isn't it?

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Toys and games have got to be in good condition. Sadly, not played with!

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Sad to think of a toy or game that hasn't been used,

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but the more mint-like the condition,

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the more value it will have.

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And boxed, if possible.

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So the message is loud and clear.

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Condition, condition, condition!

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Now let's take a closer look at some of the most exciting

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and pristine toys we've ever seen on the show.

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-What a wonderful treasure you've brought in!

-It's lovely, isn't it?

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-Where did you get it from?

-It belonged to my father.

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But the strange thing was, we none of us saw it when we were children.

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We only, unfortunately, discovered it after he'd died.

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-We were going through his things to sort through them.

-No!

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-Never got it out at Christmas or anything?

-No.

-So the family could play along?

-No.

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The other nice thing to see straight away is the inset brass plaque here,

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engraved with the maker's name. Which is?

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"Toulmin & Gale, from Cheapside in London."

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There's nothing cheap about this box, is there?

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Toulmin & Gale, actually, were a very long-established firm,

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founded in the early part of the 18th century.

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They went right through the 19th century,

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even winning a gold medal in the 1862 International Exhibition.

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We've laid it out here, just to touch on some pieces in the set.

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-We've naturally got a whole set of chess.

-Yes.

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-We've got a set of dominoes.

-Yes.

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A full set of draughts.

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Games, of course, are common, and have been common for thousands of years.

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A compendium of this quality

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and range of games

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would not have been common.

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It would have been for the upper classes.

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Then we've got a Bezique game, which I never know how to play!

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-No!

-But my favourite, I have to say, and I'm not a betting man,

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-but I love this horse-racing game.

-It's lovely.

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We've only put a few horses out, and a few of the jumps,

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-but there's more fitted inside.

-Yes.

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And even the beakers for shaking the dice, it's just absolutely superb.

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There are so many fragile, breakable, and, of course, small pieces

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that could have been lost.

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So when you open a box like this,

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and find it virtually intact,

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and untouched,

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well, it's a collector's dream.

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So we've got to think of a price. We're quite excited about it

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and have to think of a price.

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But I would put it in with a "come and get me" estimate.

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-To get their taste buds watering, if you like.

-Yes.

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-So I would put something like 400 to £600 on it.

-OK. That's good.

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'Mark might not be a gambling man,

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'but he is hedging his bets.

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'The name and the quality will surely raise the stakes?'

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-It's a real collector's item.

-It is.

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This is it.

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£300. 250 to start. 260 bid.

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280 now. 300.

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320 bid. 340 against you in the room.

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-Climbing.

-360.

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If you want something like this, of the quality and complete nature,

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you certainly need to have a decent few counters in your wallet.

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Cos they don't come cheap.

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600 on my right. Going 620?

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-620 with you. Thank you.

-This is great.

-Good advice.

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660 now. 680. 700.

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Look out for unusual objects in there. You know,

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little games pointers made of ivory or silver.

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All those little things add value to pieces.

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-900 seated. Lady's bid at £900.

-Brilliant.

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-900.

-920.

-920 offered.

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940, the lady. 940 I'm bid.

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-Absolutely brilliant. 940... 960.

-Still going strong.

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We might get to a thousand!

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-£980. Lady's bid at 980.

-1,000.

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-1,000.

-1,000!

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Fantastic!

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£1,000 against you. Lovely lot. Don't let it go.

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1,050. Thank you.

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1,050 I'm bid. I'm looking for 1,100.

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If you're all done? At 1,050 I'm selling.

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-Amazing!

-Crash! £1,050. Margaret, I'm tingling.

-Amazing.

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One of the best games compendiums I've ever seen.

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Not bad for something she didn't even know was in her father's house!

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And there was another treat for the collectors

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when Michael found a pre-war toy complete with its original accessories.

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I remember seeing a Chad Valley doll at Llandudno.

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If you want to get your end, and I'll get mine. We'll have a look.

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Right. Oh, isn't that lovely!

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So we've got the little girl in her bed. How did you come by this?

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It was donated to St David's Hospice

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and I asked if I could take a few things along today.

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-They said, "Take our pretty doll."

-Right.

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Everything we need to know about this little doll

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is actually on the box here!

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It's The Chad Valley, which is an English company

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that specialised in making toys and especially dolls with this felt covering.

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This is all her original dress, which is marvellous.

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'Chad Valley is one of those companies'

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that's immediately recognisable as a British toy manufacturer.

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Being in a country where the toys were made

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leads to an appeal within that market.

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It's the "Bambina", which is not a doll I've come across before.

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But what's super about this little doll,

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is even though someone's had her out and played with her,

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they've put her back in the box. It's all in card, all terribly fragile.

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But it's all been kept in wonderful condition by this box.

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The one thing you learn is, the more ephemeral the object,

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the more valuable it is.

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So the toy might be kept, but the box it comes in

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is the first thing on the fire, in the bin, in the skip.

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And even though this box is dreadfully tired,

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-I cannot tell you how many times these get thrown away.

-Yeah.

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Have you got any idea when it was made?

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Not really, but we had a bit of paper with it

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and that said 1934.

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I wouldn't argue with your bit of paper!

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-No.

-I wouldn't be that specific as your bit of paper.

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To have all of this, to have the original label,

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to have the box, which is almost, from a graphic design point of view,

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I like the box more than the doll!

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-I think we can put it into auction at 50 to £80.

-Yeah.

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Put a £50 reserve on it, and see where it goes from there.

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It's always important when you're selling something for a charity

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that it does as well as it possibly can.

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It adds a bit of pressure on to us.

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-I've been joined by Heather. Who have you brought along?

-Marie.

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Marie, hi. Love the blue T-shirts. St David's Hospice.

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-It's a charity.

-Yes. We have to raise 1.3 million

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to actually keep the hospice running.

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So we do a lot of work to fundraise towards that.

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It's going under the hammer now.

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Lot 394, folks.

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A 1930s Chad Valley soft-bodied cloth doll Bambina.

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It starts, though, at £50.

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Five. 60. Five. 70.

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Five. Eighty. Five.

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Toys are strong collectables now

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because people are trying to recapture

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some of the innocence of youth. Some of their childhood.

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But it's also very much a collectors' market.

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So once you feed into it, once you collect dolls,

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which are all in different numbers

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of heads and sizes and styles,

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you want the rarer and rarer ones.

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It's like collecting coins or stamps, in a way.

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-150. 160.

-Fantastic.

-170.

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180. 190. 200.

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-Great feeling.

-For charity, isn't it?

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As, of course, collectors start their collections and go on,

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they're willing to spend more and more money.

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A market that probably didn't exist 50 years ago for collectable toys

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is now very strong with lots of specialist sales throughout the country.

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280. 300.

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At £300.

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Anybody new? At £300.

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Fantastic. That can't be bad, can it!

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£300 for charity.

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-I'm exhausted!

-Thank you so much.

-Don't set me off!

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With toys, the maker is always important.

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Even if they look well loved.

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-Are these your toys?

-Those were my toys.

-Were yours. Do you remember playing with them as a child?

-I do.

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-Were they in the family? They weren't bought new.

-They came down through the family.

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And you want to sell them now?

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-Yes.

-Your childhood memories, out through the window?

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-That's it. Yes.

-Dear me!

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-You can't do that!

-I'm the last of the Anderson line.

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-I think these were made in Germany.

-Right.

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And I think they were made in the '20s.

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They work from clockwork, and our little pig here plays the drums.

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And our little violinist, he's on the fiddle!

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-Right.

-They're German. Do you know how I know that?

-No, no.

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I know that cos it says here, "Made in Germany"!

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-So I'm an all-seeing expert here, Norman.

-Yes.

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They were made by a company called Schuco.

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'They made little motor cars that you wound up.'

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They made little pigs and teddy bears where the head came off

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with scent bottles inside.

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They made all manner of good quality little toys like that.

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And their wares are sought after.

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-Have you got the key to wind him up?

-I haven't.

-You haven't?

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There are specialist toy hospitals,

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and if you go to people who restore teddy bears and this type of thing,

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if you go to a specialist,

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finding a spare key shouldn't be too problematic.

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What are they worth? I think they'll make 40 to £60 estimate.

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-For the two?

-For the two, yes.

-Yes.

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Put a reserve on of £30?

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-Right.

-Are you happy with that?

-Yes.

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Let's hope they drum up a bit of interest at the auction!

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-It's going under the hammer.

-Lot 136

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is a lot comprising two Schuco tin-plate toy clockwork pigs.

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On the floor at 35. Fresh bidder.

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-40. 45.

-Oh, come on.

-50.

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Animals, in particular, are collectable,

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because you get people that collect any type of animal.

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-Come on!

-60, fresh bidder.

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65.

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And for some reason, don't ask me,

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pigs are very collectable.

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Good.

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85.

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90.

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-Any advance on £90?

-Come on!

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All done at 90... 95 back in.

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£95. Any advance on 95?

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95.

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It trotted on, didn't it? 95.

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I loved them to bits. Great fun. And to tell the truth,

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I had a wee play with them myself!

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So Schuco is definitely a name to look out for.

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But when it comes to toys, there's one that touches all our hearts.

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# For every bear there ever was

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# Will gather there for certain cos

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# Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic! #

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Oh, teddy bear! Look at that teddy!

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We've all got one at home. They come in to every valuation day

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and they can be very valuable.

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-Have you given your teddy bear a name?

-Yep. Albert.

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-Albert. Ah. He's not for sale, is he?

-No!

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No. You just want a valuation.

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You've brought in today these wonderful bears.

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The Farnell's bear, for me,

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every time, was the most fascinating toy.

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Just beautiful, and in such good condition.

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Tell me where they're from.

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-They've been passed down through my wife's side of the family.

-Right.

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Was she allowed to play with them as a child?

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She was allowed to play with them at the bottom of the stairs,

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because Granny didn't like noisy children!

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Should be seen and not heard!

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-That's right.

-Were you allowed to play with them?

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I wasn't. I was allowed to hold them at some point,

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but we weren't allowed to play with them, cos of Granddad.

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The fact you weren't allowed to play with them means they are in excellent condition.

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The wonderful thing about this one is he's actually still got his growler.

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-He has.

-Can you make him growl for me?

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FAINT GROWL

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LOUDER GROWL

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Any kind of original features that antiques still have,

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for example, the growler in the bear that was still working,

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certainly add to the value.

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That's what collectors want. It ticks so many boxes for collectors.

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That's terrifying! You wouldn't want to meet him in the woods!

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Oh, no!

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But I've rather taken to him, I have to say.

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I think he's absolutely wonderful. He's got this lovely label here

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which tells us he's actually a Farnell bear.

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Now, Farnell's was basically the English equivalent of Steiff.

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In 1906, with the craze of teddy bears,

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they were credited with producing the first English teddy bear,

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which, I believe, went on to rival Steiff's bears in Germany as well.

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But they are fundamentally important in the history of the teddy bear.

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He's quite an early chap. We've got wonderful glass eyes.

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Later, they were plastic. If we knock them against our teeth,

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we can tell that they're glass.

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Nice felt pad, there. Original stitching.

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So I would date him to around the 1930s, 1940s.

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-He's got the most wonderful expression on his face.

-Yes.

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It must have been so tempting to play with him when you were younger, and not be allowed!

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My grandma was always stood guard over Tony and me.

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-Was she?

-Yes.

-Yeah.

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Then this little chappie, unfortunately, we can't attribute him to any particular factory.

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-But he looks like he's around the same sort of date.

-Yes.

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Unfortunately, with teddy bear collectors, the name is pretty much everything.

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If you can attribute them to a particular factory, that's fantastic.

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A nice, 1930s, 1940s bear.

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We're looking somewhere probably in the region of 100 to £150.

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Purely because unfortunately we can't attribute him to a particular factory.

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The Farnell's Alpha Bear, I think he is gorgeous.

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We're looking somewhere in the region of maybe 300 to £500.

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-OK.

-But you never know.

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As long as they go to someone who looks after them. That's what I'd like.

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Exactly.

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# Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic! #

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'Despite that wonderful pedigree, my favourite was our second lot,

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'the less distinguished cousin!'

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I think he's been duffed up a bit and needs a lot of love!

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He's the cheaper of the two,

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but I think he looks more expensive, put it that way.

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But it's just my opinion.

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Let's see who's going to put their paws up. Here we go.

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The Alpha Toys teddy bear, the Farnell's.

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I've got 320 on the net.

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390.

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It was incredibly nerve-racking, cos the bidding was quite slow,

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initially.

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One, two, three, four telephone bids.

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One, two, three, four.

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This one's going to fly, isn't it?

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530.

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550, now.

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Already it's eclipsed the top end.

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-I'll take 580 in the room.

-Brilliant.

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I've got 570 now on the net.

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600, now.

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I found other similar comparables of Farnell's bears

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that were selling for that sort of region, the three, four, five, £600 region.

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But I don't think I particularly appreciated

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how good a condition that bear was in

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and how much of a premium it would have added.

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780.

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800.

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And 20.

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850.

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-880.

-I can see you willing this on!

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Your head's nodding with the bidders!

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"One more, one more!"

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It was wonderful. I was thrilled to bits.

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1,300.

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Wow!

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-1,350.

-Gosh!

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It's a bit special!

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At 1,300... 1,350 back in. 1,400?

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1,400. 1,450?

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No? At 1,400, then. On the steps at 1,400.

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Selling, then, at 1,400.

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-Fantastic!

-That's one down!

-Lovely.

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One more to go. My favourite, next!

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'How much difference did that lost label make?

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I think we all loved the second bear

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because he probably wasn't going to make as much and because he lost his label at some point.

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-The mohair teddy bear.

-Here we go.

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Someone's got good taste out there.

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£100. Finished.

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Well, I still prefer that one!

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That was the right money, £100.

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A grand total of £1,500.

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Keeping them in good condition is incredibly important for their future value.

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So it's very difficult. It is very sad about a bear that hasn't been cuddled.

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That's what they were made for, at the end of the day!

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When it comes to collecting toys,

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here are some handy hints on how to play the market.

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Fortunately, if you want to get into the games collecting market,

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there's many price points to start with.

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You can find something as simple as a 1970s Rubik's cube.

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Make sure it hasn't been done, of course!

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If you can find an original Monopoly, with the old shoe and the iron.

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Nowadays, I don't know what they have - racing cars and things.

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But if you can find an immaculate and complete old Monopoly set, you're into money.

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And now here are some of my trade secrets.

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With toys, quality is always important.

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Watch out. Missing pieces in games and jigsaw puzzles will really put the collectors off.

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And they don't come much more fussy than doll collectors!

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So, does it have its original clothing and accessories?

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That's the detail they're after.

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But with enough charm, even mass-produced, damaged toys

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can still find a new home.

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With teddy bears, it's all in the name.

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So make sure you check the labels.

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Elizabeth Talbot will be sharing more teddy bear know-how shortly!

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We've all got something at home, that one special item that we're particularly attached to.

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But I want to know what's the one thing

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our experts would rescue from a burning building!

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Today, it's the turn of James Lewis.

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If there was a fire at home,

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I would probably save something that belongs to my daughter.

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Assuming she was out of the house already!

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It's a little stuffed rabbit that she calls Rabby.

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My life would not be worth living

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if anything happened to that!

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It's just a little... Probably a collectable of the future,

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worth absolutely nothing at the moment apart from for her.

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I think that is probably the most precious, loved thing in the house.

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A toy in good condition is a rarity indeed

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because it's in their nature to be played with too hard,

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to be bashed around a bit and enjoyed.

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Teddy bears are especially prone to being cuddled into a state of disrepair!

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But what makes a good teddy bear in the first place?

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Flog It expert Elizabeth Talbot went down in the woods to find out.

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I like teddy bears because they are very much individual personalities.

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Little characters, very much like these ones!

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Hello, chaps!

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Traditionally, there are certain firms of teddy bear manufacturers

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who make teddy bears out of alpaca hair.

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Farnell was probably the most famous company that did that.

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They had a special range.

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But I do know one other company that still includes alpaca hair in some to their teddy bears.

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It's not very far from here.

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I'm hoping I might be able to take up an invitation I received from them

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to go and have a look.

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Merrythought has been making teddy bears

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at its Victorian factory in Shropshire since 1930.

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It's a family-run firm, and the last remaining British manufacturer

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still producing bears by hand.

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Elizabeth is meeting Sarah Holmes,

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who runs the company with her sister, Hannah.

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-Morning, Sarah.

-Hello.

-Lovely to meet you.

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I'm so excited to be here.

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I've rushed over from the alpaca farm.

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I'm surrounded by the most amazing selection of bears.

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This is a joy to me.

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Here we have a sort of snapshot of what Merrythought manufactures here.

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First thing I noticed is that, unlike being surrounded by shelves full of dolls, for example,

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where it's a spooky feeling,

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this feels like we're surrounded by lots of warm love and friends,

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because they're all very welcoming and friendly faces and little characters.

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Absolutely. That's always what Merrythought have been keen to achieve.

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The expression of our teddy bears is what people really buy into.

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How did it all start?

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-You've been here since 1930?

-1930, yes.

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My great-grandfather established the business in 1930.

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And it's been in Ironbridge and part of Shropshire ever since.

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The classic teddy bear that people are familiar with,

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it's arguable in terms of who really established that.

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Alpha Farnell and Steiff were two of the very earliest.

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The Alpha Farnell teddy is what is commonly associated with as being the classic teddy bear

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with the long limbs and the hump on the back.

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They're the most expensive and sought-after English make.

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-Yes.

-No disrespect to Merrythought, but they were the forerunner.

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Exactly. Alpha Farnell was the first British teddy bear manufacturer.

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They ceased production in the late '60s.

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So hence their original designs from pre- that era are very sought after.

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Then Merrythought took on the brand

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in the mid-1990s.

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Which was great, because it means we are able to bring Alpha Farnell back to life.

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From my perspective, there are some serious collectors

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who look for the Cheeky and the punky head and the different ones.

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Where did they come from? Whose inspiration were those?

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They are so different.

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It was actually our original designer, Florence Attwood,

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who was wonderfully talented in designing teddy bears.

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So this would be the very first Merrythought teddy bear.

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-This was designed by Florence?

-Yes.

-How wonderful.

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And he is from about 1930 in age?

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This particular bear is from 1931.

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So he would have been one of the very first to be produced.

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But Florence went on to design a huge array of different styles of teddy bears.

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Rather famously, the cheeky bear

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and the punky bear

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in the late '40s

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and early '50s.

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Yes, the punky bear is a very unique teddy bear!

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It still has a very strong collectors' following today

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and they are quite sought after at auction.

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Yes, I've seen some of those make quite amazing prices,

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along with the cheeky bear.

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I wanted to ask you, do you have any alpaca bears here?

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-We certainly do.

-Do you?

-We use alpaca quite a lot, actually.

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Obviously alongside mohair.

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There's one little white teddy bear here, made from alpaca.

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Oh, he's so fluffy. He's lovely.

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It's a very fine fibre and creates a very soft finish.

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They're quite distinctive. He's made from alpaca.

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I can certainly show you a few more.

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I'd love to see a few more, please!

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Oh, my goodness, Sarah. This is amazing.

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-Totally unexpected.

-It's quite a collection.

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Reel after reel of fabrics and all the colours.

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Absolutely. We carry quite a large range of different materials.

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-But I must ask, do you have any alpaca that I can handle?

-We certainly do. Absolutely.

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This is some of our alpaca fabric.

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That is adorable. That is just so heavenly. It's lovely.

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Just looking at it you can see the difference between that and mohair.

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Absolutely. It's a very fine, soft fibre.

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So I can show you how they're made.

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This is a hive of concentrated activity. Amazing.

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What's actually happening in this room?

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This is where we make all our teddy bears.

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Everything we produce is made from start to finish under this roof.

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Just to give you an idea of the process,

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we start by cutting out each of the shapes that make our pattern for our teddy bear.

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Those shapes are then sewn together.

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And then we move on to the next stage where the eyes are put in.

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The bears are part stuffed.

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Then the joints are put in. A fiddly process.

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And then the bears are assembled. The arms, legs and head are all attached to the body.

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And then the final stage is hand embroidering the nose

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and the smile on the teddy bear.

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-Very important part.

-Absolutely.

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-It brings it to life.

-Yes, gives it its character.

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-Ah, the all-important eyes.

-Absolutely.

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They're put in by hand as well.

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So that's why some bears have this wonderful expression where maybe their eyes are not quite level

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or they're a bit close together.

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But it actually adds to the bespoke nature of them.

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-Though a Merrythought bear wouldn't pass quality control if his eyes weren't level.

-OK.

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But I notice from a collector's point of view

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they will often spend money where they feel there is a personality,

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to purchase a bear with a bit of a quirk.

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-It isn't always a bad thing.

-No. Absolutely.

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But it's fascinating to see how that's achieved.

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Teddy bears' eyes are magical

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because they're the window on the teddy bear's soul, being very romantic!

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But teddy bears' eyes are important in dating them.

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The earlier ones, from the 1904 period of Steiff

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and the early Farnells

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were the little metal boot button eyes which were black painted.

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But through the early 20th century, glass was used in different colours

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to give the pupil and the surround in a nice coloured way.

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Then as the 20th century developed

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the synthetic man-made plastics were inserted and used

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because they were cheaper and easier to mass-produce

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but also increasingly it was a safety element, which was important.

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We've now reached the stuffing part of the process, which intrigues me.

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Sharon is stuffing each part of the teddy bear individually.

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We put wood wool into the front of the head and nose

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to give the definition and solidness.

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The robustness of the face.

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So the whiter cotton wool-type stuffing,

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that's nice and soft and pliable and goes into the nooks and crannies

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and makes it nice and cuddly. A cuddly bear.

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Have you got a collection of bears at home?

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-I've got a few!

-Have you?

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That's the standard answer. "A few", with a nice knowing smile!

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Obviously means "quite a lot"!

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-This is the assembly.

-Yes. We call it fitting up.

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Is this how a bear in 1931 would have been assembled?

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-With the pins?

-Absolutely.

-Just the same.

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This technique wouldn't have changed since teddy bears started.

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Have you ever put a leg on back to front?

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Yes!

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That was a special edition, that one!

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Penny's got a lot of responsibility,

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because the expression and personality of the bear comes out first through the eyes

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and then it's enhanced by the facial features, the nose and mouth.

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And although they are working to a pattern,

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you cannot but help have slight variations

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because every stitch is unique. It is unique.

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Therefore each bear has a very slight kind of individual nature which sets it apart.

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Expression has always commanded quite an important consideration for collectors.

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A bear that looks appealing, whether it looks sad or lonely,

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or quite mischievous,

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can tempt people to bid that bit more at auction and pay more.

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It's like the cherry on the top of a cake.

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Just kind of finishing it off.

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Oh, look at him. He's gorgeous!

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He's waving, look!

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Happy bear.

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Sarah, I have to say I've had such an amazing day.

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I'll enjoy teddy bears even more after today.

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That's nice to hear. You're very welcome.

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I've had the most magical day here in Ironbridge.

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I've learned such a lot. It's been a wonderful experience

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which I'll remember for years to come.

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But I've learned such a lot about parts of teddy bears I'd never even considered!

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To see these craftswomen at work has brought the whole thing to life for me. It's been wonderful!

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You've heard our experts' trade secrets on your old toys and games.

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Coming up, we look at other family treasures

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that may be knocking around your home.

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"First pair of boots.

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"Too small for her little feet."

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That's dated 1873.

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He hadn't even looked in the boots!

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'Find out how James turned his passion for one type of box

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'into an impressive collection.'

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Do you think we should try some?

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-I didn't know you were a nosologist!

-Is that what it's known as?

-Yep.

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A snuff taker in the 18th century was known as a nosologist!

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And we unearth some rather unusual family stories.

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This is a mechanical version of a leech, I guess.

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On Flog It, we've had over 900 valuation days,

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and during that time, we've seen all kinds of antiques and collectables.

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But there's one thing that still gets me very excited when I see it.

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And that's boxes!

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Yes, you bring them in, boxes of all shapes and sizes.

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Boxes made of wood, boxes made of antique ivory and leather.

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And there's something quite satisfying about opening up a box

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and peering in and seeing the treasures that lie there.

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So if you've got an old box in your attic or your chicken shed,

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it may be worth getting its contents valued.

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Here are a few of the surprises we've found

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when lifting the lid.

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You often find that a very tatty exterior

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can be protecting a jewel of an interior.

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When I first saw this in the box,

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I thought we'd have half an hour while you set it up.

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-But you've put it together like an expert. You've done that a few times!

-Two or three!

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It was towards the end of the valuation day

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and he almost didn't bother bringing it along.

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Whenever we're looking at optical instruments,

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and in particular, microscopes or telescopes,

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there's one name that really does ring out above all the others.

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And that's Dollond of London.

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Dollond of London are one of the most important optical instrument makers

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of all time in Britain.

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They're now Dollond & Aitchison, spectacle makers.

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If we look at this box that this microscope came in,

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we see this wonderful flush brass handles on the sides.

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And that indicates that it was made to be packed away for travelling.

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Look at that box. Wonderfully fitted.

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'The more you looked at this microscope,'

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the eye pieces were there, the slides were there...

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You often find the most gruesome things. What's that?

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A leg of something, by the looks of it!

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But they're contemporary with the microscope.

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So it's what we call a monocular microscope, for obvious reasons.

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It has one lens. Binocular or monocular.

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And this alters a rack and pinion. There we go.

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-But we've got a couple of bits missing.

-Yeah.

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-Yes.

-Tell me how you came to have it.

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-It came out of a skip.

-Who on earth would put this in a skip?

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My son!

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-Your son put it in a skip?

-When they cleared the house.

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-No!

-And then he took it back out and looked in it and said, "My dad would like that".

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So he said, "Here's part of your Christmas present."

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Really, it is the most fantastic quality thing.

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You've saved it, and I'm so pleased.

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But it is the best of makers. In its original box.

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OK, we've got a few bits missing.

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But you've got a lot left, too.

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So I think we ought to put an estimate of 400 to 600.

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I've seen them sell before, complete, at 1,000 to £1,500.

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Thanks very much for bringing it in.

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Been nice being here. I love it.

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But that was a classic example of putting a low estimate

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to try and get the best end result.

0:34:280:34:30

I don't ever like to get people's hopes up.

0:34:320:34:34

But come on, just stick your neck out!

0:34:340:34:36

-Well...

-You're with friends!

0:34:360:34:38

I think it should make 12 to 1,500.

0:34:390:34:42

-Right.

-Really?

-Dave, are you shaking?

-Yeah!

0:34:420:34:46

Early 19th-century monocular compound brass microscope.

0:34:460:34:49

Lots of interest here.

0:34:490:34:51

I have to start at £380.

0:34:510:34:53

380. 400 now. 420.

0:34:530:34:55

440.

0:34:550:34:57

Telephone bids on it, internet bidding, absentee bidding.

0:34:570:35:00

600.

0:35:000:35:02

And 50.

0:35:020:35:03

700.

0:35:030:35:05

-And 50.

-Yeah, keep going!

0:35:050:35:07

-800.

-It's making a good steady climb.

0:35:070:35:10

900. And 50.

0:35:110:35:13

1,000.

0:35:140:35:15

1,100. 1,200.

0:35:150:35:17

1,300. 1,300 in the room.

0:35:180:35:20

At £1,300. We have £1,300.

0:35:200:35:24

Yes! £1,300!

0:35:250:35:27

That's auctions for you!

0:35:280:35:30

Fantastic! And to find it in a skip!

0:35:300:35:32

Why don't I ever find those in skips?

0:35:320:35:34

Not every box is full of delights,

0:35:360:35:38

as Elizabeth was to discover with this macabre medical instrument.

0:35:380:35:42

This is a very unusual item, Lynne. What can you tell me about it?

0:35:420:35:46

Well, as far as I'm aware, it's a cupping set.

0:35:460:35:50

And it's for blood-letting.

0:35:500:35:53

It actually belonged to my great-grandmother

0:35:530:35:57

who used to assist with births.

0:35:570:36:00

-So this was hers, was it?

-Definitely, yes.

0:36:000:36:03

So it will have seen a certain degree of hard work in its time.

0:36:030:36:06

-You've never seen it actually used?

-No, no. No.

0:36:060:36:09

It had served a cause and probably had a few stories to tell, probably.

0:36:090:36:15

I'm sure whoever saw this being put together would have been daunted!

0:36:150:36:18

Victorians loved the concept of blood-letting.

0:36:180:36:21

Letting out badness from the body by cutting and drawing off blood.

0:36:210:36:26

They used leeches a lot.

0:36:260:36:28

This is a mechanical version of a leech, I guess.

0:36:280:36:31

We draw back the little knives by this lever here

0:36:310:36:35

which primes it, a bit like priming a flintlock pistol.

0:36:350:36:39

You hold it onto the skin, and by releasing the button,

0:36:390:36:41

the little knives shoot through

0:36:410:36:44

and score the skin.

0:36:440:36:46

At which point you rush up with this

0:36:460:36:49

and put it onto the skin and draw back to pull out the blood you require.

0:36:490:36:55

In some cases, they would take dangerous amounts of blood out.

0:36:550:36:58

They were so carried away with forever attaching leeches or sucking out the blood

0:36:580:37:03

that actually it was making the patient too weak.

0:37:030:37:06

Not for the faint-hearted, is it?

0:37:060:37:08

So you've inherited it, have you?

0:37:080:37:10

No, it still belongs to my mother, but she's happy to sell it.

0:37:100:37:13

She wants to sell it. OK.

0:37:130:37:15

-Has it been pride of place...

-No, not at all.

0:37:150:37:18

It was, unfortunately, until very recently,

0:37:180:37:21

it was down the chicken shed!

0:37:210:37:23

It had been carefully passed down the generations

0:37:250:37:27

until the recent ten years when it was in the chicken shed!

0:37:270:37:30

Well, you've obviously got a very clean and dry chicken shed,

0:37:300:37:33

because it's in surprisingly good order.

0:37:330:37:35

Value, I think, will be limited to around about...

0:37:350:37:40

I'd think on a bad day £40.

0:37:400:37:42

On a good day, it might make £80.

0:37:420:37:44

OK.

0:37:440:37:45

I based my estimate on not enough knowledge, as it turned out!

0:37:450:37:50

You can play the game properly at home now.

0:37:550:37:57

Doctors and nurses!

0:37:570:37:59

40 quid? 20 I'm bid. 20.

0:37:590:38:01

Five. 30. 35. 40.

0:38:010:38:03

45. 50. 55. 60.

0:38:030:38:06

65. 70. 75. 80.

0:38:060:38:08

-At 80 now.

-80.

0:38:080:38:11

85. 90.

0:38:110:38:12

95. 100.

0:38:120:38:14

-100!

-110. 120.

0:38:140:38:17

130. 140.

0:38:170:38:19

150. 160.

0:38:190:38:21

170.

0:38:210:38:23

180. 190. 200.

0:38:230:38:26

210. This side at 210.

0:38:260:38:28

The auctioneer did very well.

0:38:280:38:30

He kept encouraging people to bid that little bit more

0:38:300:38:33

and that's the sign of a good auctioneer.

0:38:330:38:35

290.

0:38:350:38:36

300.

0:38:360:38:38

Going to burst a blood vessel in a minute!

0:38:380:38:40

330.

0:38:410:38:42

340. At 340 now.

0:38:420:38:45

-350.

-It wasn't even named.

-360.

0:38:450:38:47

370.

0:38:470:38:49

I did think that to find a name

0:38:490:38:50

would have given it quite a significant uplift in value. I couldn't find a name.

0:38:500:38:55

So kept the estimate very modest at 40 to £80.

0:38:550:39:00

-380. 390.

-Wow. Must be quite rare.

0:39:000:39:03

400.

0:39:030:39:04

At 400 now. Are you in on the phone?

0:39:040:39:07

-400?!

-At £400 over here.

0:39:070:39:09

Do you want to keep it? At 400.

0:39:090:39:12

Just another tenner.

0:39:120:39:13

410.

0:39:130:39:15

-410!

-It's a lucky charm.

0:39:150:39:17

£420. Finished and done at 420.

0:39:170:39:19

If one's going to be caught out,

0:39:190:39:21

it's better to be too pessimistic than over optimistic,

0:39:210:39:25

and have a positive result rather than a terrible flop.

0:39:250:39:28

Your last chance at 420. Who have I missed?

0:39:290:39:32

Oh, and it's all down to Great-Gran there.

0:39:330:39:36

-She brought you luck today.

-Absolutely. Mum will be over the moon.

0:39:360:39:40

There you go. Live and learn!

0:39:400:39:41

But sometimes there are clues to what might lie within.

0:39:430:39:46

As Catherine found out in Plymouth.

0:39:460:39:48

I remember this gentleman coming up to me

0:39:490:39:51

with this rather rugged tin box.

0:39:510:39:55

And he plumped it on the table.

0:39:550:39:58

It was a little bit rusty.

0:39:580:40:00

But it had the name painted on the top, of a naval officer.

0:40:000:40:05

So I thought, "Hmm. This is going to be something quite exciting."

0:40:050:40:09

Chris, what's inside this rusty box of tricks?

0:40:090:40:12

It's a naval bicorn hat, or a cocked hat.

0:40:120:40:16

Oh, this is quite special, isn't it?

0:40:170:40:19

Wow!

0:40:190:40:20

It really got me going. Very exciting!

0:40:200:40:24

And I just remember the epaulettes, a sort of golden colour.

0:40:240:40:28

And they were really shining through.

0:40:280:40:31

So when you opened this box,

0:40:310:40:33

it was just like you were looking at treasure!

0:40:330:40:37

A-ha!

0:40:370:40:38

There are two of these epaulettes.

0:40:380:40:41

Just in the most fabulous condition.

0:40:420:40:45

-This pops out like that.

-That's beautiful.

0:40:450:40:47

-What a great colour, as well.

-Beautiful.

-Wonderful amber colour.

0:40:470:40:52

The braid coming down here and the lovely buttons with the anchor on.

0:40:520:40:57

And as you say, the epaulettes, which were obviously worn on the shoulder.

0:40:570:41:00

How did you come about this? Was it passed down through your family?

0:41:000:41:03

No. I was doing a house clearance with a friend of mine,

0:41:030:41:07

and this was part of what was being thrown out.

0:41:070:41:09

I think we should give it a conservative estimate of probably 150 to 250.

0:41:090:41:13

Let's hope that it attracts a lot more interest and really surges up.

0:41:130:41:18

'And Chris has unearthed some useful information about the name on the box.'

0:41:180:41:23

Did you do any research to find where he was, where he was stationed?

0:41:230:41:27

Yes. He served on lots of ships during his time.

0:41:270:41:30

-One of them was The Hood.

-The Hood!

0:41:300:41:33

HMS Hood, which was an important ship during the Second World War

0:41:330:41:37

which had been sunk by The Bismarck.

0:41:370:41:40

This is it. This is your lot now

0:41:400:41:42

I'm bid £160. Against you all at 160.

0:41:420:41:45

Five if you like. 165. 170.

0:41:450:41:47

Five. 180. Five. At 185.

0:41:470:41:51

190. 200.

0:41:510:41:52

Wow! This is exciting!

0:41:520:41:55

And ten. 220. 230. 240.

0:41:550:41:58

250. 260. 270.

0:41:580:42:01

280. 290.

0:42:010:42:03

At £290 there.

0:42:030:42:04

-Yes.

-At 290, then.

0:42:040:42:06

All done at 290?

0:42:060:42:08

-Brilliant.

-Excellent.

0:42:090:42:11

-Bang on top. 290 quid.

-Good.

-Fantastic.

-Very good.

0:42:110:42:14

That's what was nice about this box.

0:42:140:42:16

It had the name of the naval officer on.

0:42:160:42:19

So you could research it. I think that's what people really picked up on.

0:42:190:42:23

There are boxes for tea, boxes for snuff and boxes to carry clothes.

0:42:230:42:28

But it's not always about what's inside.

0:42:280:42:30

Sometimes, the beauty is the box.

0:42:300:42:34

You've been standing in the queue holding this very heavy box for rather a long time.

0:42:340:42:39

It's always thrilling to see a box.

0:42:390:42:41

You automatically think there must be something rather special in there.

0:42:410:42:44

-It used to belong to my grandmother.

-Right.

0:42:440:42:48

And it was handed to my mother when she died in about 1970-ish.

0:42:480:42:51

-My mother handed it on to my daughter.

-Yes.

0:42:510:42:55

-So it's the fourth generation in the family.

-Right.

0:42:550:42:58

-Your daughter's instructed you to bring it along?

-Yes.

0:42:580:43:00

-To sell it?

-She's getting married next year

0:43:000:43:03

and it would be useful towards the honeymoon.

0:43:030:43:05

-Does it come with any story?

-All I know is it must be something like 110 years old.

0:43:050:43:10

That's pretty accurate. It's late 19th century.

0:43:100:43:13

-But where does it come from?

-I don't know.

0:43:130:43:15

-Put your hand over it. It's Indian.

-Oh. Right.

0:43:150:43:18

-Do you know what it's made of?

-No.

0:43:180:43:20

It's very black. I thought initially it was probably ebony.

0:43:200:43:23

But I can see a bit of flecking in there.

0:43:230:43:27

I think it's a wood called coromandel.

0:43:270:43:28

Coromandel has this wonderful flecking of brown through it

0:43:280:43:32

which gives it a particular charm.

0:43:320:43:34

It's not easy to carve because it is so hard.

0:43:340:43:37

But if you can do it well,

0:43:370:43:39

it then has this wonderful patination.

0:43:390:43:41

It's exotic to look at.

0:43:410:43:43

Wow!

0:43:450:43:46

Look at that fantastic workmanship.

0:43:460:43:48

It's got the most wonderful ivory inlay.

0:43:490:43:51

When I say wonderful, it's not Japanese quality.

0:43:510:43:56

And then it has different woods laid into it.

0:43:560:43:59

There's some probably tiger wood in there.

0:43:590:44:04

There's some rosewood, I think.

0:44:040:44:06

'And it was complete.'

0:44:060:44:08

I think every lid to every compartment was still there.

0:44:080:44:11

Which is a rare thing in itself.

0:44:110:44:13

There should be a compartment in the bottom.

0:44:130:44:16

Oh, my gosh. It's full, isn't it?

0:44:160:44:18

-Um...

-I don't know anything about them.

-You don't know anything about them?

-No.

0:44:190:44:24

Well, lo and behold, inside one of the bootees

0:44:240:44:27

was a name.

0:44:270:44:29

"Dear Rosa". Does that ring a bell?

0:44:300:44:32

-There was an Aunt Rosa, yes.

-Aunt Rosa?

-My mother's Aunt Rosa.

0:44:320:44:36

"First pair of boots. Two small for her little feet."

0:44:360:44:40

And that's dated 1873.

0:44:400:44:42

He hadn't even looked in the boots to see that piece of paper himself.

0:44:440:44:49

I find that quite extraordinary.

0:44:490:44:50

No wonder he wanted to sell it. He had no interest in it at all.

0:44:500:44:53

Well, coming back to the box,

0:44:530:44:56

did you daughter say, "If it's worth more than ten quid, sell it"?

0:44:560:45:00

-Or 500 quid or...

-She just said, "Take it and sell it. I have no use for it."

0:45:000:45:04

-Right.

-I suggested it might be worth in excess of 100.

0:45:040:45:08

-Well, I think it's worth about £100.

-Really?

0:45:080:45:10

-How does that sound?

-Reasonable.

0:45:100:45:13

Reasonable? Were you hoping for more?

0:45:130:45:15

Well, always!

0:45:150:45:17

Let's hope the bidders are excited about the box and its contents.

0:45:190:45:23

Next up, the embroidery box with a value of 100 to £150.

0:45:240:45:28

It belongs to Michael. He's brought his daughter Heidi along.

0:45:280:45:31

-Hello.

-Hiya.

-I love the hair! What does Dad think?

0:45:310:45:34

I had a shock when I saw it!

0:45:340:45:36

It's going under the hammer now.

0:45:370:45:39

Numerous commission bids here. Start me straight in at...

0:45:390:45:42

Come on.

0:45:450:45:46

£160. 160 I have to start.

0:45:460:45:48

I think when I got to the sale room

0:45:480:45:50

I really had thought to myself, "Charlie, you've undervalued this lot."

0:45:500:45:55

170. 180.

0:45:550:45:57

190. 200.

0:45:570:45:58

210. 220. 230. 240.

0:45:580:46:01

-Heidi, it's because you're here!

-270. 280.

0:46:010:46:04

290. 300. 310 takes me out.

0:46:040:46:08

Because it's a rare wood, it's particularly collectable.

0:46:080:46:11

340.

0:46:110:46:13

-350.

-Oh, they like this.

0:46:130:46:15

360. 370.

0:46:150:46:17

380. 390.

0:46:190:46:20

-400. 410.

-Charlie, what did we miss?

0:46:220:46:24

I know nothing!

0:46:240:46:26

£410. Back of the room at £410.

0:46:270:46:29

At £410. Are we all done, then?

0:46:290:46:32

At £410.

0:46:320:46:34

How exciting was that?

0:46:340:46:36

-Oh, my word.

-That'll go a long way towards your honeymoon.

0:46:360:46:39

Yeah. I can eat, now!

0:46:390:46:41

So when it comes to boxes, what are the key points to look out for?

0:46:430:46:45

The box, although it was a beautiful object in its own right,

0:46:450:46:48

it was actually made to protect what's inside.

0:46:480:46:50

People often say, "Oh, dear, the box isn't in very good condition."

0:46:500:46:53

That doesn't matter. If it's done its job,

0:46:530:46:55

what's inside has survived really well.

0:46:550:46:58

Just because it's tatty doesn't mean it's worthless.

0:46:580:47:01

We often call it "country house condition" if it's a bit shabby.

0:47:010:47:06

I like to have a really good look at it and think about the material that it's made from.

0:47:060:47:10

So if you've got something that's made from quite a rich material,

0:47:100:47:14

I think that's going to tell you you've got something special inside.

0:47:140:47:19

Isn't it amazing how much they know?

0:47:200:47:22

You've heard their tips. And now here's some of mine.

0:47:220:47:25

Always look inside your boxes, no matter how fabulous.

0:47:250:47:29

There could be even more valuable treasure hidden within.

0:47:290:47:32

-I don't know anything about them.

-You don't?

-No.

0:47:320:47:35

Whatever your item, look for a name.

0:47:350:47:37

A known maker will always attract the collectors.

0:47:370:47:40

It just goes to show, there's a market for almost everything.

0:47:410:47:45

So think before you bin!

0:47:450:47:47

As you know, provenance is key in antiques.

0:47:470:47:50

So if your trunk or suitcase has a name or monogram,

0:47:500:47:53

as they often do, check it out.

0:47:530:47:56

The previous owner could be very significant.

0:47:560:47:59

But sometimes it's just the box itself which is of interest.

0:47:590:48:03

Something I learned more about in 2008 when I visited an old snuff factory.

0:48:030:48:07

I've come here to Wilsons & Co,

0:48:070:48:10

one of the last remaining independent snuff manufacturers left in the country.

0:48:100:48:15

The family-run business, here at Sharrow Mills in Sheffield

0:48:150:48:19

has been producing snuff from a secret recipe

0:48:190:48:23

which dates back as far as 1737.

0:48:230:48:26

The original machinery used to grind the tobacco to make snuff still survives.

0:48:280:48:33

It's left as a testament to a bygone age.

0:48:330:48:35

Although snuff-taking isn't as popular as it used to be,

0:48:380:48:42

one aspect of it still is very popular and extremely collectable.

0:48:420:48:45

And that's snuff boxes.

0:48:450:48:47

And to tell us a bit more about it

0:48:470:48:49

is a familiar Flog It face and good friend of mine, James Lewis.

0:48:490:48:52

James, thanks very much for bringing a small part of your collection.

0:48:520:48:57

-I know it's massive.

-It is.

0:48:570:48:58

I think I've got about three to 500, four to 600 altogether. Something like that.

0:48:580:49:05

-I'm not sure exactly.

-When did you start to collect snuff boxes?

0:49:050:49:08

Well, when I was younger, I had a passion for wood, just like you.

0:49:080:49:13

And the problem is, when you're a schoolboy or just about to go to university,

0:49:130:49:17

you've got nowhere to put furniture.

0:49:170:49:19

If you're going to collect wood, or treen, or anything like that,

0:49:190:49:22

you have to collect things that are small.

0:49:220:49:24

I thought, "What better than snuff boxes?"

0:49:240:49:26

So I had an interest back as a teenager.

0:49:260:49:30

But the passion for snuff boxes

0:49:300:49:33

really came from one of my first ever visits I made as an auctioneer.

0:49:330:49:37

I went to see a lady in a little tiny cottage

0:49:370:49:40

and halfway through the valuation, I heard this...

0:49:400:49:42

SNORTS

0:49:420:49:44

I turned round to see this lady

0:49:460:49:49

with snuff dribbling down the nostrils!

0:49:490:49:52

All over herself.

0:49:520:49:53

And she went, "Want some, lad?"

0:49:530:49:56

-And did you?

-No, I didn't.

0:49:560:49:58

I didn't. Today I probably would have done.

0:49:580:50:01

But back then, I was too shy and I said, "No, thank you."

0:50:010:50:04

And I left her to it.

0:50:040:50:06

But it started a strange sort of fascination.

0:50:060:50:09

Gosh. Let's talk about some of the varieties.

0:50:090:50:13

-Maybe pick on half a dozen.

-OK.

0:50:130:50:15

There are two types, really. You get the pocket snuff.

0:50:150:50:17

It always has a very tight fitting cover, for obvious reasons.

0:50:170:50:21

And then you have the table snuff.

0:50:210:50:22

Table snuff is normally bigger and sometimes has a loose cover.

0:50:220:50:27

These three at the front are all table snuff boxes.

0:50:270:50:30

They're by one of the most important snuff box makers

0:50:300:50:34

of the early 18th century,

0:50:340:50:36

a chap called Jean Obrisset.

0:50:360:50:38

He was the son of a Huguenot silversmith

0:50:380:50:41

and he specialised in working in horn and tortoiseshell.

0:50:410:50:46

He was snuff box maker to Queen Anne.

0:50:460:50:49

Really. So that's a name to look out for.

0:50:490:50:51

Queen Anne herself was a snuff taker.

0:50:510:50:54

Can we have a look at one of those?

0:50:540:50:55

Wonderful detail.

0:50:570:50:59

-That's nice, isn't it. Hold it up to the light.

-Yeah.

0:50:590:51:02

You can see right through it. Look at the detail.

0:51:020:51:05

Great quality.

0:51:050:51:07

Just as we find today that smoking is a really controversial subject,

0:51:070:51:11

snuff-taking itself was controversial throughout the ages.

0:51:110:51:15

And although Queen Anne was a snuff-taker,

0:51:150:51:18

100 years earlier, King James, he despised it with a passion.

0:51:180:51:23

So if you were caught taking snuff in the presence of King James,

0:51:230:51:26

-you'd end up in The Tower.

-Really?

0:51:260:51:28

Oh, he loathed it.

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In its heyday during the 18th century,

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snuff-taking developed into an important social grace.

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It remained popular well into the 20th century.

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It was said you could tell a lot about a man's social status

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by the way he took his snuff.

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Open the lid and take a pinch between the finger and thumb.

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Hold it there for a moment

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so the warmth of the finger brings out the bouquet of the snuff.

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So you get the benefit of the flavour. And inhale it.

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Close the snuff box.

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And then, if you like, just a little flourish with your handkerchief.

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I'm not a snuff box snob.

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I know a lot of these people say, "It's a silver gilt",

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"It's solid gold", it's this, it's that.

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"It's encrusted with rubies."

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To be honest, that actually leaves me quite cold.

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-You like the tactile items.

-I do.

-The working man's snuff box.

-Absolutely.

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I've seen a few of those. That's the poor man's pinch, isn't it?

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Yeah. You generally call these Scottish snuffs.

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I'm pleased YOU said that!

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I can get away with it because I'm 100 per cent Scot!

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-I can get away with it.

-A mean pinch.

-That's what they're called.

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A mean pinch. They were made in brass and horn and treen.

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The idea was that you would close the gap in the centre

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so that when you take the pinch of snuff, you can't take too much.

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Very eye-catching. I love the rams' horns.

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They're brilliant.

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A classic Scottish ram's horn snuff mulls they were called.

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With a lovely silver mount.

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That's quality, isn't it, all the way through.

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I think I've got about 30 of those, altogether!

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They come in different shapes and sizes.

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Interesting. Somebody has attached a silver watch chain to that.

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So they can carry it and put it over their arm.

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Because that one doubles as a snuff box on the top there,

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but also the end screws off and you can fill it with whisky!

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That's a good idea, isn't it?

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A lot of these are English and continental. Where else in the world were they made?

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They were made almost everywhere.

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The interesting thing is that in China they don't have snuff boxes,

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they have snuff bottles.

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Simply because a sign of status in China was to have wonderful, long, decorative fingernails.

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If you have massively long fingernails, you can't take snuff from a snuff box.

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-You can't pick the box up.

-No. You have a little shovel and straight up!

0:53:480:53:52

Now you're talking about that,

0:53:520:53:54

we're in the best location possible

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to show this sort of thing.

0:53:570:53:59

This is obviously ground down tobacco. Should we try some?

0:53:590:54:03

-I didn't know you were a nosologist!

-Is that what it's known as?

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A snuff-taker in the 18th century was known as a nosologist.

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-I don't fancy trying any of this stuff.

-Go on.

0:54:110:54:14

No, no, no. I think we should try some fresh stuff when we get outside.

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-Otherwise we'll sneeze our heads off.

-We're antiques people. We should try the old stuff!

0:54:180:54:22

-Gosh.

-Go on.

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I don't rate that at all!

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No. Whatever you do,

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don't try that at home!

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The great thing about boxes, like other small items,

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is they're a perfect starting point for a budding collector.

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And it doesn't have to be expensive

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if you know what you're looking for.

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If that's inspired you, here are some tips on collecting the small and the beautifully formed.

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Look for an area you find interesting.

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It could be nutmeg graters.

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It could be Vesta cases.

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But don't be narrow-minded

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and look for a year.

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Look at that whole section of nutmeg graters or Vesta cases.

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The key word when collecting treen

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is the patina, the colour of a piece.

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That's really what buyers of this kind of thing are looking for.

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Serious collectors are a special breed.

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We tracked down a few to get their take on the art of collecting.

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Douglas came to our Stroud valuation day in 2009

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with a beautiful print and an extraordinary story.

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Doug, I'm a big fan of Paul Nash.

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Tell me how you came by this Shell poster.

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Many years ago, in the late 1970s,

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we were on holiday with some ruralists, Graham Ovenden and so on.

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And he brought a friend along.

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And this friend went into the sea. A bit daft, cos it's a very dangerous coastline.

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And my wife looked out and said, "This guy is in trouble. He's drowning!"

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So we clambered over the rocks, the tide was coming in.

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I held onto his legs, and he grabbed this guy by the hair

0:56:040:56:08

-and we both pulled him out.

-Wow.

0:56:080:56:10

This poster came from him as a thank you present for having rescued him from drowning.

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And to me, it was a great joy.

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What can I say? Paul Nash was a war artist in the First World War.

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He worked for the air ministry in the Second World War.

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He was a great advocate of British modernism.

0:56:260:56:29

He really pioneered the surrealist thing in the 1920s. Pushed it to the forefront.

0:56:290:56:34

-Yep.

-It's rather a large furnishing picture.

0:56:340:56:36

I could see this in a big studio.

0:56:360:56:37

Right. That's why we're going to sell it, cos our sitting room wall is too small for it.

0:56:370:56:41

-If we put this into auction, I'd like to put it in at 1,000 to £1,500.

-Right.

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Lot 312 is the Paul Nash.

0:56:460:56:51

900. 920 there.

0:56:510:56:53

940. At 940. 960, if you like. 960.

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-Getting there.

-980.

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1,000 and 50 now. Sure now.

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At 1,000.

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He sold it at 1,000. We got it just at the bottom end.

0:57:040:57:07

-That's all right.

-We're happy.

-Absolutely fine. Absolutely fine.

0:57:070:57:10

It was a success for me. It was a telephone bid. Obviously a collector

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who'd seen it on the internet and wanted it.

0:57:140:57:17

So with the cash, Douglas was on the hunt for smaller Paul Nash works.

0:57:170:57:23

I keep a lookout all the time for stuff to do with Paul Nash.

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But it's hard to come by these days.

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What I've focused on is getting graphic work of his.

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Limited edition books, limited edition pamphlets and so on

0:57:340:57:37

which contain his work, contain his writing.

0:57:370:57:40

The money we earned from Flog It went partly towards getting this.

0:57:400:57:45

In its time, this must have been absolutely extraordinary

0:57:450:57:50

because it was before abstract art,

0:57:500:57:53

it was before people painted canvases black and white.

0:57:530:57:56

It's really unlike most of his work

0:57:560:57:59

which is surrealist in places

0:57:590:58:01

but also representational.

0:58:010:58:03

So he obviously just took out the feeling of Genesis,

0:58:030:58:07

the feeling of what he read

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and then translated it into very, very simple powerful images.

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It's one of the most extraordinary books ever published, I think, by an artist.

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Certainly in that era.

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Now, that's a truly passionate collector for you,

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trading in one piece to expand the overall collection.

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That's it for today's show. I hope we've given you some food for thought.

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Join me again soon for more inside information and surprising sales.

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But until then, it's goodbye.

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