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One of the things I love about Flog It! | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
is meeting you, members of the general public and together, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
we've taken hundreds of trips to auction houses all over the country, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
putting our experts' valuations to the test. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
In this series, we're pooling all of that knowledge together | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
to help you get some inside information. Welcome to Trade Secrets. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:23 | |
In today's show, we're taking a look at items | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
originally from other parts of the world. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
By 1922, the British Empire - the largest in history - | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
held sway over a fifth of the world's population. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
It stands to reason that many wonderful treasures | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
have made their way to our shores. And thankfully, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
some of them have made their way to our valuation days. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
Coming up, Thomas marvels at the history of one object. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
That's a pint of rum at midday. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
And we explore how our other vices | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
have spawned a whole area of collecting. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
Nowadays we all have sugar in enormous quantities. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
We all have too much of it. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Tobacco and snuff taking has always been a controversial subject. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
And we catch up with Ann, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
whose story proves we should never take things at face value. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
Sold! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
-The whole room... Everybody started applauding. -Lewis! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
Now, do you know what this is? | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Well, if you've been watching Flog It! you probably do. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
It's a little, tiny tea caddy. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
This was brought back to the country when trade was opened up | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
throughout the 18th century and tea became rather fashionable. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
And, as well as tea, other valuable and exotic commodities | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
came back to the mother country. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
Things like spices and tobacco and sugar and coffee, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
we couldn't get enough of them. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
This demand is reflected in the antiques of the day. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
The British really got a taste for tea in the 17th and 18th century | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
and by the 19th century, it was still very expensive | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
and only the very wealthy and privileged could afford to drink tea. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
These are the sort of people that would have had caddies | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
and this teapoy is a version up from the tea caddy. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
This is, of course, an elaborate teapoy, a tea caddy on a stand. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
There we are. It's a beautiful satinwood interior. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
It's in really, really lovely condition. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
These lift out and they are wonderfully made. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Mahogany and then satinwood... | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
So it's a very high-class item to keep one's valuable tea locked away. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
-I don't suppose you've got a key. -We have no key. -No. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
It's a complicated lock but it's a sign of great quality. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
-Keep the servants out! -That's right. Lock the servants out | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
and keep your green and black tea separate. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
The problem with it commercially, I suppose, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
is that it's a bit useless in the modern home. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
It's very pretty, it's very decorative but it's quite big. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
I suppose you could put a plant on it or something, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
but you can't then open it and have a look at that wonderful interior. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
Perhaps that represents a slightly limited market for it. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
You told me you wanted £1,000, really. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-It's in my head. -Yeah. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
-If we put an estimate of 800-1,200. -Mm-hm. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
It's likely when we go to the auction, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
the auctioneer may say, "Oh, you're quoting us ten years ago prices." | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
I think we're going to sell it. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Genuine teapoys like this one we had was a beautiful example | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
and they don't come on the market very often. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Did its rarity guarantee the teapoy a sale? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
I had a chat to the auctioneer and he said it's not a popular piece of kit. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
You know, if it was a tea caddy, people would want to own it. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Because it's a teapoy, it becomes a piece of freestanding furniture. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-What do you do with it? -Yeah. But, I mean... -That's the downside. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
At £600 for the teapoy. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
At £700... | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
It looks like it's going home. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
Sorry, unsold. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I'm quite upset that the teapoy didn't sell because I thought it was | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
a fabulous example of its kind and I thought we had it exactly right. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
In fact, I think it should make £1,450 | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
and I think if it was represented in another auction, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
perhaps with other items of a similar nature, caddies ideally, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
then it should make over £1,000. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Yeah, yeah, Adam. But seriously, he has a point. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
An item is more likely to sell if it's presented with other, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
similar pieces as the collectors will be circling. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
For some collectors, the sky's the limit. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
A George II tortoiseshell and silver tea caddy | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
sold at auction in 2012 for £17,000. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
So what other consumables landed on our shores as a result | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
of the trade triangle? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Nowadays we all have sugar in enormous quantities, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
we all have too much of it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
In the 18th century, the British developed a tremendous sweet tooth. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
At the beginning of the 18th century it was a very expensive, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
luxury commodity. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
As the decades went on, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
the price started to come down | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
but it was still precious enough that in the 1770s and 1780s | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
you would quite often have a silver receptacle, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
either to store or serve it in. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-Mum used to keep sweets in it, actually, which I suppose is... -That's fair enough! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
It would have had originally a blue glass liner | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
which is why it's pierced, so the sugar wouldn't fall out. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
It's typical of the period of Adam design. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
You've got all this intricate classical piercing. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
You got a Vitruvian scroll, erm, urns. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
I spotted the urns, they're rather nice. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
They're beautifully done | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
but we've got one place here where it's solid, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and that's so you could put the owner's crest or initials on, when you brought it to the silversmith. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
Commercially it's better that there is a blank cartouche there, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
especially if you are giving it as a gift to somebody else. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
What I would be very cautious of | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
is that, because there is a premium, a slight premium | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
to pieces that haven't been engraved, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
there's a great temptation to remove original engraving. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
When you see a blank cartouche like that, you should always check | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
that the thickness of the silver is the same as the rest of the piece. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
I noticed there is a little bit of damage around the foot. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
It wouldn't normally matter that much, you'd knock it out | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
but you've got the same piercing on the foot | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
as you have on the body of it. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
It's just found a weak spot and it's started to crack and split. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
-Can that be rectified? -It can be done. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
It can be done by a competent silversmith, but it's not cheap. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
It will affect the final sale value of it. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
If the basket hadn't been damaged, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
I would have been far more comfortable in putting | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
an estimate of £300-500 on and I would expect it to make | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
the top end, maybe £100 more. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
What impact did that damage have an the sale price? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
170? 175. 180. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
Take 185. The bid's at £180 in the room. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
At 180 and selling... | 0:07:11 | 0:07:12 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-That was a great result. -It was in that state. Someone must think | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
they've a really good silversmith that can put it right. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
If you're considering restoration, consider it very carefully. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
If it's done badly, that's worse, especially for you, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
because it won't be cheap. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
So you'll have thrown money away to make the object you own worse. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
If you're in any doubt, leave things alone! | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Our heritage as a trading nation means that there are | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
collectables out there whose value lies in that history. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
The bronze pint measure from Jamaica, St Andrews, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
was just a piece of colonial history, which was so special. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:55 | |
-Marjorie. -Hi. -Hi. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
-You've brought along something quite interesting. -Is it? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-It is really interesting! -I've got no idea what it is. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I want to know about it, from where you got it from. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
Well, my sister found it in one of her packing cases | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
when she moved to America. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
-You and your sister are from Jamaica. -Yeah, originally. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
You were there and you wanted to keep it. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
I wanted to have a look at it. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
She was getting ready to put it in the bin. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Marjorie's sister was going to throw this measure away. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
And to be honest with you, it didn't surprise me | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
because it did look like nothing. I mean, it looked like a bronze pot. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
It's probably the best thing I've seen all day, if you want my honest opinion. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
It's doesn't mean it's worth a tremendous amount of money, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
but I think it's rather special. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Such care had been taken in making this piece. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
And it was struck, as in struck, with all the right strike marks - | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
William IV, the Customs and Excise mark. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
And the lettering on the front was superb. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
"St Andrews, Jamaica, Imperial Pint." | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
Everything about it just screamed quality. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
-I reckon it's a pint measure for rum. -Right. -And it's a naval piece. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
So if you're on the ship, I think the ration was a pint a day. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
-A lot, isn't it? -Well, it was quite a lot. But they did drink quite a lot. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
-Yeah, probably. -A bit of Dutch courage as well. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
-If you had a pint of rum, you be able to conquer anything. -Right. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
The rum ration is a naval tradition. It stems back to our beer ration. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:25 | |
The beer ration was a ration of beer, a pint of beer | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
you'd get at midday. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
Now, in the 17th century Britain had a scrap with the Portuguese | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
and the Spaniards and we conquered the West Indies. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
The beer ration was superseded by the rum ration. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
That's a pint of run at midday. Whew! | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
Fascinating. I think it's a really interesting object. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
One of the nicest things I've seen. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
-And I would suggest this would be worth £70-£100 at auction. -OK. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
I think I was extremely conservative with my £70-£100 estimate. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
-170... -They love it. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-They absolutely love it. -It's such a rare thing. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
£170. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
It's going to be sold, make no mistake, you'll miss it. All done. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
GAVEL BANGS | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
Lovely thing! | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
It was our heritage, so to speak. And Jamaica's heritage. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
That's what was so special about it. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
It just encapsulated Britain as a whole. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Rarity and a great story can increase an item's value. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
I can't believe Marjorie's sister | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
nearly threw that rum measure away. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
The lesson there is always have a closer look before you throw | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
anything away. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
The rum ration continued as a Navy tradition right up until 1970, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
so there's no need to worry about | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
what to do with drunken sailors today! | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Another commodity that was shipped to Britain from the Empire | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
was tobacco. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
Now, Ann, there are antiques that look amazing, they look decorative. | 0:10:53 | 0:11:00 | |
There are antiques that are useful | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
and there are antiques that just speak history. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
And you just close your eyes and feel that | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
and you can feel 300 years of history. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
It is an absolutely wonderful object. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
'That circular snuffbox that Ann brought in' | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
is one of the things that | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
you look at and you don't need to be an expert. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
It tells you everything. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
You know that old phrase, "It does what it says on the tin." | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
It's got who owned it written on it. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
It's got a date bang in the middle of it and it's quite obvious | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
that it's either a snuff or a tobacco box, really. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
The history of snuff goes way back into the 16th century. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Tobacco and snuff taking has always been a controversial subject | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
and when we look back in history, in 1604, King James I visited | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
Cambridge University and they said, if anybody is caught taking snuff | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
in front of King James, he'll take them to the Tower. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
He hated it that much. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
Then 100 years later, the reign of Queen Anne, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
she was herself the biggest snuff taker in England. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Really, throughout the 18th century | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
was the real time of growth of the taking of snuff. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
And as the snuff became more readily available to the masses, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:18 | |
then the variety of snuffboxes again became more and more varied. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
This is a wonderful thing. It's a combination snuff. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
So you move each dial and each wheel to a certain position | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
and then that allows you to pull the moon down and open it. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
Our only problem is we don't know the combination. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
-No! -So we haven't been able to get into it today. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
-Do you know the combination? -I have no idea. I have no idea. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
I've got about 30 or 40 of those combination snuffboxes | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
in my collection, and the most frustrating thing is | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
when you've actually cracked it, you shut it and you forget. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
And then you go, "Oh, no! What was that?" And you start all over again. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
I should think it's going to make £200-£300 at auction. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Something like that. I think we ought to put a reserve on it. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
A reserve of 200. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
If it doesn't go for that then take it out, take it home and enjoy it. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
And who cares? If it doesn't sell, who cares? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
I'll have a gamble. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
James has spent hours trying to open up the secret formula to unlock it, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
and he couldn't and nor can I. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
-Well, I cracked it. -You cracked it? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
-Do you agree with the valuation first? -No. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
We've put in an estimate of 300 to 400. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
-Right, so James is a bit under there? -Oh, yes. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Not streets away, but I think possibly the price has been | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
-helped by the fact that we got it open. -Go on, explain how. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Two little hands... | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
And you set them at about three o'clock, or horizontal. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
And then there's a smiley face there. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-You can just about see it, or at least I can. -Yeah. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Now, hopefully, there we are, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
the moon slides up and in you go to your box. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
-How long did it take you to work that out? -Well, I was there... | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
-a day or two, actually. -Did you take it home? -I did, I did, yes. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
Whose estimate proved right on the day? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
500 anywhere? At 500. 520. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
540. 560. 580. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
600. 620. 640. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
660. 680. 680 anywhere? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
I have £660 behind me. Anyone else? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
We're finished at £660. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-I can't believe it! -That was pure quality. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
It's all about who loves it more, rather than what it's worth. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
And two people just purely loved it. I loved it too. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
Lots of other people love snuffboxes too, and we see them | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
at most of our valuation days. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
Because snuff taking was originally an elite pastime, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
many of them are beautifully made and decorated. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
But as the masses took up the habit, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
snuffboxes became more rudimentary. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
So if you're looking to collect, there's something for every budget. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
The record auction price for a snuffbox was set in 2011 | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
when a magnificent Meissen | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
gold-mounted royal example, made for Augustus III, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Elector of Saxony and the King of Poland, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
sold for a staggering £900,000! | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Paul and Chris's sugar basket was a beauty, but had seen better days. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
If you've got some damaged silver, | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
be wary about getting it restored, as you may cause more damage. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
And look out for blank cartouches on silverware - | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
an engraving may have been removed. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Check that the thickness of the metal is the same | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
all the way around the piece. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
And if you are in the market for some tea-related paraphernalia, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Adam has a word of advice. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Watch out for teapoy marriages, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
where someone's just got a tea caddy and stuck it | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
on the base of an occasional table and converted it into a teapoy. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
So always have a good look at those. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
British colonists have deemed it their duty to bring a civilising | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
influence to their subject peoples. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
The English language, Christianity, and railways were all exported | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
across the globe under the Empire. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
But there's one thing in particular that's remained | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
associated with England, and that's cricket! | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
We're always pleased to see your sporting memorabilia at our valuation days. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Football, rugby, cycling - we've seen it all, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
but cricket does seem to have a particular place in the hearts of the Flog It! fans. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
Two of our best-loved Flog It! experts, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Adam Partridge and Charlie Ross, are devotees of the game. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
So they went along to the MCC museum at Lord's to find out what | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
makes an iconic piece of cricket memorabilia. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
MUSIC: Test Match Special Theme "Soul Limbo" by Booker T & The MGs | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
When did your love for cricket start? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
-From a very small boy I was playing with a cricket bat. -Yeah. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Introduced by my father, of course, like most of us were. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
-Then you went on and played at school? -At school, Ealing Cricket Club, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
played for the Taverners, I have my own company team that we play. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
-And you're captain? -Of course I'm captain! | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-Can I bring my team along? -Perhaps you could. -Challenge! -There we are. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
What about you, tell me about your cricketing history. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
I'm a mad, mad enthusiast for cricket | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
but I'm also an extremely poor player of cricket. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-I don't believe that. -It's true. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
I was quite good when I was about 15 and I opened the bowling at school | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and I remember being quite fast and I just got steadily worse, really. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-You're a member here, are you not? -33 years I've been a member here. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
As a member here you have certain privileges and you opened | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
a few doors for us today like the door to the museum, hopefully. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
It's a general misconception that the museum is not open to everybody. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Anybody can visit the museum. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
People from all around the world come to the museum to see the wonderful exhibits. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
# I don't like cricket... # | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
As well as being the spiritual home of cricket, Lord's also boasts | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
a staggering collection of over 15,000 pieces of cricketing history. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
This looks like a bit of old wood, doesn't it, to the average person? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
To some people it will and they'll wonder why we are getting so excited about this. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
There's a name on the back, what's the name? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-Dr WG Grace. -Dr WG Grace. -The most eminent Victorian. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
He was, he was an enormous man and he was a doctor | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
and had a huge great beard. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-And a great celebrity of the period? -He was. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
He played for England in the first ever Test match | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
here in England against Australia in 1880. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
-And, I don't know... -Do you remember that game, Charlie? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
CHARLIE LAUGHS | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
How dare you! | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
It's absolutely wonderful and it's dated 1901. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
That's the king of cricket names. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
If you're looking for things today, if you're looking at current players in the England team, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
-people like Cook, people like Pietersen... -Mmm. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
If you are lucky enough to get them to sign a bat, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
even if it's a bat they haven't used, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
get them to sign it, tuck it away. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Do you know what, Charlie, they sign more nowadays, don't they? | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Players are constantly signing, so I don't know | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
-if they are ever going to be as important as anything like this. -They won't be, you're quite right. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
Serious collectors in any field are always on the lookout for oddities. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
The more weird and wonderful, the better. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
In 1936 there was a game here | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
and a chap from Cambridge University, Jehangir Khan, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
was apparently bowling and killed the sparrow mid-flight | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
on the way to the wicket. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
Either that, or the batsman hit the ball into the sparrow. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
I think it's a romantic story because no-one really saw this happen. They just... | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-Did they not? -..found a dead sparrow. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
It's a great example to show the eccentricity of the game. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
What makes this particularly special, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
-this is very well-known throughout the cricketing world. -Yeah. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
Therefore, the provenance would have given it value. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
I think it's a wonderful item. I'm just glad it's not a partridge! | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
This is the complete collection of the world's most famous sporting book. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
You've got quite a sizeable collection, haven't you, Charlie? | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
I've got over 100. This is the cricketers' Bible. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
If you want to know anything about anybody that played Test cricket, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
school cricket, minor county cricket, anywhere in the world, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
you'll find them in the Wisden's Almanack. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
A full collection like this would be worth well in excess of £100,000. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
-This year, 2013, is the 150th edition. -It is. It is. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
Why do you say that with a grin on your face? Come on? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
I've got to show you, if I may. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
-You're not one of the five cricketers of the year, are you? -I'm not quite Charlie, no. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
-I am in the Cricket Around The World section. -Wonderful! | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
-For Poland. -Are you Polish? -My mother's Polish. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
-I have played cricket for Poland. -You're an international cricketer? | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
-I am. -Shake me by the hand, that's marvellous. I never, ever realised. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
"In 2008, an 11 made up of players of Polish descent, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
"starring auctioneer Adam Franciszek Partridge | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
-"from BBC antiques show Flog It!" -That's absolutely marvellous. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
A, we've got Flog It! in there and B, coupled with your name. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
It shows how cricket has travelled to countries, emigration has | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
taken cricket to other places where they've never thought of it. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Who would've thought Poland would play cricket? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-How do you feel seeing the Ashes there? -It's so small! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
So tiny for such a famous object. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
The most famous cricketing object in the world. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-Perhaps we should explain why it's called. -When did it all start? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
This came about as a result of England losing to Australia | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
for the first time on home soil. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
-It was a matter of national disgrace, wasn't it? -In 1882. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
It certainly was. It had never happened before. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
This was the end of cricket. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
So a sporting newspaper did an obituary for English cricket | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
saying it had died that day and the body was going to be cremated | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-and the Ashes were going to be sent to Australia. -Yes, indeed. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
-An England team went to Australia. -The next time they toured. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
The next time they toured | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
and, actually, England won when they were ahead 2-1 in the series. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:18 | |
The Ashes were then presented to the honourable Ivo Bligh | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
and so he then brought back the Ashes of English cricket. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
It's only ever left here once, has it not? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
I think it's only been to Australia once in its life. Otherwise, it lives here. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
This is completely priceless. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
I don't think anybody could put a value on that. It is a one-off. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
Well, it's not every day that our Flog It! event throws up | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
something that's worth many thousands of pounds, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
and when it does, we like to follow it up on Trade Secrets. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
So here's what happened when Michael Baggott met Ann | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
in Lincoln back in 2012. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
I went along to Flog It! at Normandy Hall in Scunthorpe to flog | 0:23:03 | 0:23:09 | |
what I thought was African artefacts. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Ann, you're obviously not a lady to be messed with. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
No, not at all! | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
Not with all these lethal weapons on the table in front of me! | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
They don't look like the sort of things you'd have gone out | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
and bought intentionally. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
No, a friend gave them to me. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
A family member had brought them back from Africa some years ago, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
so they've been handed down to him. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
There were two spears and an axe and a shield and we thought they | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
were African origin, we thought they'd been brought back from Africa. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
There were two sorts, broadly, two main sort of tribal artefacts. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
The first type is items that were made for use. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
The others are those that are made for the tourist market. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-Right. -So this group, to me, has a look of functionality about it. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
I've no idea of the value of the items. No idea whatsoever. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
We took them along because they've been stored in | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
a cupboard for years and just to see, you know, what they were worth. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
I think this, to me, this shield and the calabash are the nicest things. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
I think as a group let's put them in at... | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
£200-£400. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
-Really? -Yeah, yeah. -Gosh! | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
Tribal art is a very difficult thing to value, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
so a nice broad estimate reflects the fact that you're saying | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
to the person, "Well, it's really up to you what you | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-"think they're worth," and they'll make their bids accordingly. -OK. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
1,100 by the door. £1,100. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
We went off to the auction | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and we was having a nice day, just looking around and enjoying the day. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
-At £400. -GAVEL BANGS | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
When it was time for us to go on, we joined Michael and Paul... | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
Going under the hammer right now | 0:24:54 | 0:24:55 | |
we have a little group of ethnographica. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
You're probably thinking, "What's he on about? | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
"What's ethnographica?" Well, Ann can tell us, can't you? And who have you brought along? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
-This is Lewis. -Hello, Lewis, shake my hand. How old are you? -11. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
When it came to our turn to go on, it was just amazing. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Let's get straight to this, we've got all the telephones and the net. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
ALL the telephones? Nice property! | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
Who's going to stop me first, put me straight in at £500? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
500, whose first? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
It went straight in at £500, so it was a really nice feeling. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
I thought, "Oh, this is really good!" | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
850, 900... 900, 950 bid... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
And on it went. And then it started going up in the thousands... | 0:25:31 | 0:25:36 | |
-4,200... -It's £4,200! | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
4,600. 4,600 now. 4,600. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
4,800 now. 5,000 bid. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
At that point I was oblivious to everything that was going on | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
around me, I was just amazed. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
I'm looking for 10,000. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
10,000 bid. 11,000, may I say now? 11,000 bid. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
The bids were coming through | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
on the telephone and on the internet | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
and from Australia, France... | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
20,000 bid. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
£20,000! | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
22,000 now. 22,000. 24,000 now. 24,000. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
The excitement in the room, it was buzzing. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
The whole room was buzzing and everybody was just amazed. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
28,000. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
-At 28,000. -I'm shaking. -£30,000, may I say now? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
30,000. 32,000 now. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
At £30,000. My original telephone bidder is in at £30,000. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
Is there anyone else now? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
And then when it reached the 30,000 and the hammer went down, it was | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
just incredible. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
Lot sold! £30,000! | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
The whole room, everybody started applauding and... | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
Lewis, high-five! | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
Just unbelievable. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:55 | |
£30,000! That is absolutely incredible! | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
I'm shaking, look! | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Wow! | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
-We just got £30,000! -I can't believe it. I can't believe it. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Missed something. Missed something really big. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
I'm flabbergasted. I really don't know what to say. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
It turned out the winning bid came all the way from Australia, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
where an eagle-eyed curator at Sydney's Primitive Art Museum | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
spotted the shield on the auction website | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
and recognised it as Aboriginal Australian. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Once I received the money, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:28 | |
cos it's hard to believe | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
until you've actually got the cheque in your hand, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I popped it in the bank and I treated the children. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
I'd been refurbishing my dining room, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
so that was done far quicker than I'd intended. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
On the day, we had a wonderful experience at the auction | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
and at the valuation. It was amazing. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
I'd recommend people to do it. Just take their items, cos who knows? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
They might be as lucky as I've been, and you just don't know what | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
you've got hidden in them cupboards and in your attic. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
High-five! | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
Well, if we've learnt anything on Flog It!, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
it's "take nothing at face value." | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
And I hope we've inspired you to take a closer look | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
at some of the things you have lying around your home, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
especially if they've travelled thousands of miles to get to you. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
Well, that's it for today's show. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Do join me again soon for more Trade Secrets. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 |