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We've got a wealth of experience from over 10 years of valuing and

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selling your antiques and collectables. If there's

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something you need to know, you can find it right here on Trade Secrets.

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Today we are looking at how makers of the fine arts have taken

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inspiration from birdlife.

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We Brits are a nation of animal lovers. That seems to apply

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to our antiques and collectables as well as our actual furred and

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feathered friends!

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And we have a flock of bird related items that you should be

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looking out for. Coming up, our experts are enchanted by your

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nature inspired collectables.

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Be still my beating heart! That is charming.

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It is just SO decorative.

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Anita gives the inside track on buying and selling at auction.

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Get into the bidding and battle it out with the other bidders.

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And one item flies high for Thomas.

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It went up and up and up and I was shocked!

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We humans have always been fascinated by birds,

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and I'm sure it's their ability to soar high up in the sky.

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Many cultures attach symbolic meanings to certain types of birds.

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The dove, for instance - the international symbol for peace.

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The eagle denotes strength and majesty.

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And I don't know about you,

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but I always salute a magpie when I see one

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to ward off bad spirits.

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But when it comes to antiques and collectables,

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what type of winged creature could bring you good fortune?

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I like Austrian cold-painted bronzes by Bergman.

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He did wonderful, wonderful parrots.

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And if you get them with their original patination

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and paintwork on them, they can be very collectable and very valuable.

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Well, I like anything to do with owls.

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We think of wisdom, don't we, with owls?

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I think it's also important to look at the actual character.

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The character of the owl.

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Pick the animal you're particularly keen on

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and collect it, no matter what.

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And don't be put off by people who say, "That's a strange thing to collect".

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Many of the bird-themed items we've seen on Flog It! over the years

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have been shaped like our feathered friends.

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But occasionally, an item of quality turns up where the motif of a bird

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has been used purely for decoration.

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-Mary, hello.

-Hello, Elizabeth.

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I've been sitting drooling over this lovely...

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what is called an object of virtue.

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This lovely gem of craftsmanship.

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I'd like to hear your story about it, because I think it's lovely.

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Well, I bought it in the 1960s, mid-1960s,

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from an antiques fair in Chichester.

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And it just caught my eye.

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I loved its sort of tactile shape.

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It sits in the palm of my hand.

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And I used to use it to put my make-up on before I went out.

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-I used to go round the folk clubs, singing.

-Really?

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I was part of that scene in those days.

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Yes, I've always loved it.

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I think you must have been the best-equipped folk singer

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at the time, then, because what we have here,

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which isn't obvious looking from the outside,

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is a little vanity mirror.

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I think that is just charming.

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It was in very good condition.

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It was very pleasing on the eye.

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Quite an unusual object, being the mirror in its little case.

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And it was a good, honest example of early Victoriana,

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which doesn't come up very often.

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The silver is so fine that it is impossible

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for it ever to have been assayed,

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so you cannot look for a mark to date it.

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-I see.

-The silver is inlaid,

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and then it's chased, so the bird, which I think is...

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I don't know what kind of bird you thought it was.

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I don't think it looks like a real bird.

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I think it looks like an imaginary one.

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I think it's part eagle, part hoopoe bird...

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But it's then chased. The silver is then chased

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to give the detail of the feathers,

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just to give it that three-dimensional appeal.

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-But you're thinking of selling it now?

-I think so, yes.

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-Yes?

-Yes.

-It is very much a collector's piece.

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And I think it would go to a specialist collector

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who would, at the moment, be prepared to pay somewhere between

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-£70 and £100 for it.

-Right.

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It was clear she was fond of it

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and it held memories and stories,

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but sometimes people reach the stage where

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to part with it when it's a happy piece

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is as productive

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as to part with it out of absolute necessity.

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12 bid.

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And 15 now.

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65. 70. 5, surely? 75.

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75 bid.

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80 bid. 5.

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90. 5.

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100. 10 now.

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110 bid. 120, surely?

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110 at the back of the room. 120.

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130. At 135, we may have an internet bidder. We do.

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Yes!

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140. Thank you, sir.

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145. 190.

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200.

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20 anywhere else, now?

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220. It's the last call.

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At 200, my bid's in the room.

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At £200, if we're all done and finished, selling in the room

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and definitely selling at £200.

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£200! Now, that's a real, true reflection of its value.

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Gosh, that was a good result at £200, and I was pleased with that.

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I was pleased for Mary.

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And that proved it was spotted by people who were avid collectors.

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That was a quality piece

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which deserved good money to be invested in it.

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That stunning vanity mirror was of such fantastic quality,

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it was destined to make a good price,

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and I'm sure it went to a very good home.

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Now, there is one wise old bird that all of our experts agree

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is top of the tree.

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And when it's represented in collectables,

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it comes in all shapes and sizes,

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as Mark Stacey found out.

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You've brought this lovely little owl in.

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Where did you get it from?

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It was my dad's. He used to collect lots of little bits and pieces

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-from jumble sales.

-Oh, right.

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I used to be a Scout, and we'd go along and help out the jumble sales.

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My mum would sort the clothes,

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and I'd probably play around more than anything!

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And he'd come along under the guise of helping

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and go through all the bric-a-brac and boxes.

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-So he had a little sneaky peek at all the goodies?

-He did.

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He'd buy them long before the doors had opened!

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That's not very fair. But it happens all the time!

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Fancy that!

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His dad cherry-picked this item

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from a jumble sale.

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Wouldn't be allowed to do that today, would you?

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Cheeky fellow.

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Well, he obviously had an eye

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for collecting little curious knick-knacks,

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because here we have a little brass model of an owl,

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which is rather sweet, with these little cabochon glass eyes.

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Sometimes these are made in silver,

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and when they're silver, they'd be a lot more money.

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But there's another purpose to this,

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because if we open his head up,

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you will see there's a little gap in there.

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And that's where you keep...

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-Matches.

-Matches.

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So it's a little vesta case.

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Then on his back, we can see where you'd strike the matches.

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The owl itself was quite nicely made.

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There's a lot of cheap vesta cases made,

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and a lot of cheap animal-related subjects,

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but this, although it wasn't silver or gold,

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it was only brass,

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it was nicely cast, had nice little glass cabochon eyes,

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and just had a little something about it.

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In terms of the date,

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I think we're looking at somewhere round about 1910, 1920.

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It's one of the mass-produced ones, but they are quite collectable now,

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particularly unusual shapes.

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Several markets for an item like this. You'd have collectors

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who want another owl-related addition to their collection

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or people who collect vesta cases.

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Or people who collect Victoriana.

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But tell me...you haven't had it an awfully long time.

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Why have you decided to bring it to Flog It! today?

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Well, I really love the programme, watch it all the time.

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It just happened that when I saw it in the paper, today was my day off.

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I thought, "Great - come to Dorchester, get involved in Flog It!"

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I went through a few bits and pieces,

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got some stuff together...

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There's no pressure on you,

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but you have to tell us who your favourite expert is.

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-Definitely you, Mark.

-Thank you very much!

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Well, let's put £30 to £50 on it.

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And we'll put a firm reserve of £30. We don't want to give it away.

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Hopefully, it'll fly on the sale and we can all say, "To-wit to-woo!"

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-Very good!

-See you at the auction.

-Thanks.

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286 is a brass vesta case in the form of an owl.

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Lovely little collectable thing.

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Tell me where. £20 for it?

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Thank you. 25.

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30. 35.

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40. 45.

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At £40 on my left. I'll take 5.

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-At £40.

-There's someone on the phone.

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5 anywhere for the vesta? 45 on the phone.

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50.

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At 45, the phone has it. I'll take 50.

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At £45.

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-Yes, it's gone - £45.

-Not bad, is it?

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Somebody got it on the phone.

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I don't know, really,

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what makes owls such a popular motif.

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I'm assuming, like the rest of us,

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they have this sort of...

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endowed wisdom about them, don't they?

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Maybe it's the big eyes and the fact that they sit there

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observing everything quietly.

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It's quite scary, really, isn't it?

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But I like them.

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What a great price

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for a brass vesta case.

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If it had been a plain design, it might have only made a few pounds.

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It goes to prove that you can never go wrong with an owl.

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At a valuation day in Belfast,

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I came across a little silver owl of a similar size,

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which really flew away.

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This owl is absolutely adorable.

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I think I love him more because his eyes are missing.

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But looking inside, it's been nicely wash-gilded.

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There's a gilding wash just put on there.

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So that's to stop the salt or pepper from corroding.

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Let's put it into auction with a value of £80 to £120.

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-Right.

-And I think this could do the top end.

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Even with the missing eyes.

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280.

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This is great. This is absolutely fabulous.

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300 quid!

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A definite tip from me -

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if you're out bird-spotting

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and find an owl antique or collectable,

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be wise and snap it up.

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Owls are the one bird species that seem sure to sell well.

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Christina Trevanion was delighted

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when she came across some very special eggs.

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Monica, be still, my beating heart!

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This is just fantastic.

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I never thought I'd see a piece of Stuart Devlin on Flog It!

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I am thrilled to bits that you brought them in today.

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It's something you don't see a huge amount of.

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So it was lovely, really lovely.

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Very modern and contemporary

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and very exciting.

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So tell me a little bit about them.

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-Where did you get them?

-Well, I inherited them

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from a very lovely aunt who died,

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and she had quite a few of these collections, limited editions.

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Because they are relatively modern.

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They've got hallmarks for the 1970s.

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So, obviously, relatively modern in our lifetime, really.

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So she obviously had great taste.

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I just love them. Look at this.

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The fact that you've still got the box

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and the certificates with them as well...

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The wonderful certificates in here. They're all limited edition.

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If you have the boxes and the certificates,

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it certainly adds to the value,

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so it's very important to keep them with them.

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This is known as the surprise egg.

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You can imagine why.

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As we take off the lid...

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And look at that!

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I would rather have that little Easter egg

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than a chocolate Easter egg any day of the week.

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-Would you really?

-Oh, yes!

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Definitely.

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You've got a nice hallmark on the top, which is London, 1971.

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So this is the earlier piece here.

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And tell me, do you like it?

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-I like it, but my favourite is the one with the hummingbird.

-Is it?

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We'll come to that one next.

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Let's take this lid off.

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And this, again...just beautiful.

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Look at that.

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Stuart Devlin was known as the man with the Midas touch,

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in that he produced some of the most beautiful goldwork and silverwork

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of the 20th century.

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He was born in Australia,

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so it's quite unusual for an Australian to come here

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and develop his style in the 1960s and 1970s.

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And just a fabulous, fabulous silversmith.

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-So why are you selling?

-For my sons. I've got two sons.

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-They can have the money.

-Good plan.

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I think at auction we're going to be looking somewhere in the region

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of £300 to £500 each.

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I would suggest that we sell them as two separate lots.

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I'd like that, please. Yes.

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Stuart Devlin certainly took inspiration from nature

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when creating his surprise eggs.

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But he also looked to the jewelled eggs made between 1885 and 1917

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by the Russian house of Faberge.

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Most of the Faberge eggs

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were miniatures that were popular gifts at Easter,

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with each containing a surprise.

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Today, the Faberge egg has become a symbol of luxury

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and that's reflected in the prices they sell for.

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In 2007,

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a Faberge egg that was made for the Rothschild banking family

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sold at auction for a world record

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£8.9 million.

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By comparison, a Stuart Devlin egg seems very reasonably priced.

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But did the bidders agree?

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Bid me for that, someone - the Stuart Devlin egg. Bid me 300.

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350.

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I'm bid 200. 210.

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210. 210. 210.

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210. 210. 210.

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At 210. 220.

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230. 230. 240.

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Any more?

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At £240.

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-Is it going to do it?

-No.

-Doesn't look like it.

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Oh, that's a shame!

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Let's keep our fingers crossed for this one.

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This is the hummingbird one.

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£230 only. At 230.

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-Is there any more?

-Just a little bit more.

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230. 230. Is there any more? Are you sure?

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At 230.

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At £230. Any more?

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Well, regrettably, they go the same way, I'm afraid.

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What a shame!

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Sadly, we didn't sell them, and I feel really, really sorry.

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-I feel like we've let you down.

-I'm not worried.

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I can enjoy them.

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I was desperately sad that they didn't sell.

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I don't really understand to this day...

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I don't really understand why they didn't sell.

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I really believed that, when Christina took these eggs in...

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Stuart Devlin was just starting to climb.

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I think she put the right money on them.

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Perhaps she was a little bit before the marketplace,

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but, you know, they would fly away now,

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because he really, really is

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a man to look out for.

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Those Stuart Devlin eggs

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were a classic case of right object, wrong time.

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But that's why it's wise to put a reserve on your item

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in order to protect it.

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It would have been criminal if those eggs had sold

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for £50 apiece.

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So, what do you need to know if you are in the market for a bird themed

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collectable?

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Always examine the workmanship of a piece.

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Aim for finely executed decoration,

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where the workmanship shows attention to detail.

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And I've said it time and time again - quality always sells.

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Timing is key.

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The world of antiques is one of fashions and fads,

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designers coming in and out of popularity

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and prices rising and falling

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like the tide.

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So, do your homework

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and pick your time to sell carefully.

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And if you've only enough money to invest in one feathered collectable,

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make it an owl.

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These wise old birds are so popular,

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they always seem to hold their value.

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These days, we're quite familiar with the world's flora and fauna.

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David Attenborough has played his part in feeding our fascination.

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But where did it start? David Fletcher can give us a clue.

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I have something here which tells us quite a lot

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about the Victorians.

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It tells us about

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their love of natural things...

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..in the sense that it's a parrot, of course.

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And it also tells us,

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I think this is very insightful, really,

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about their love of manufacturing objects

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which look like something,

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but are, in fact, something completely different.

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And here we have,

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believe it or not, a pen-wiper.

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But who would have thought that anyone would have chosen to make

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a pen-wiper in the form of a parrot?

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It's made of spelter,

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which is a type of zinc.

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It is hand-painted.

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It's probably Austrian,

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and it is typically Victorian.

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Had it have been bronze,

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it would have been worth quite a lot of money.

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As a piece of spelter, it's worth £50 or £60.

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Anita Manning has been a familiar face on Flog It for many

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years and she remains one of your firm favourites. When she's

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not giving you invaluable advice on valuation days, she is busy

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running her own saleroom in Glasgow. So, who better to give you

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the lowdown on buying and selling at auction?

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5 again. 5 bid. 10.

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All done at £10?

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Welcome to my auction.

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Today's the viewing day and the bidders have come along

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to look at the items which will be on sale tomorrow.

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I'm always a wee bit surprised

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at the Flog It! valuation days

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by the number of people who just have never been to an auction.

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Auctions are thrilling.

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They are exciting.

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They are a piece of theatre, with the bidders as part of the cast.

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What I'm going to do is to take you through the auction process

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to take away the mystique,

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so that that will encourage you to come along,

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see all these wonderful objects

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and to have great fun.

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So, what do you do if you want to sell at auction?

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Well, there are various different ways.

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Most auctions have valuation days.

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There will be experts there

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to look at your items, to give you estimates of value

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or you can send an image.

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The most important thing is, make that first contact.

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The cataloguers go round and write descriptions

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and estimated selling prices of all of the items.

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Every item is photographed, and this is a long and laborious process.

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And we don't just take one photograph.

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There has to be many photographs at different angles taken,

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because these photographs will be looked at

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by people who cannot attend the sale,

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but want to view the sale online.

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In a sale like this, with nearly 1,000 lots,

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the cataloguing is done over three days

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by perhaps eight people.

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So it's a lotta, lotta work!

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If you're viewing online,

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from home,

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and you see something that you fancy

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but you want a wee bit more information,

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you can phone up the auctioneer

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and ask for additional photographs

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or condition reports.

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But best thing is to come along to the sale

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and to look at the goods in the flesh.

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Buy a catalogue, look at the description

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and the estimated selling price.

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If you see something you like,

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pick it up.

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Handle it. Look to see if it's in good condition

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or if there are any small defects or flaws.

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Don't be afraid to rummage.

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There might be something there which will give you a big surprise.

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If you have any questions, if you have any enquiries,

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ask your auctioneer

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or the auction staff.

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They'll be delighted to help you.

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I adore coming to auctions. I've been doing it since I was very young.

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It's an inherited passion,

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which I got through my parents.

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I love the paintings,

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so today I'm here looking at the paintings.

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I'm in here to look at china.

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Some nice tea ware, dinner ware,

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coffee sets and maybe any nice collectables.

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I love the seagulls,

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the set of seagulls.

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So that's what I'm interested in at the moment.

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You've come along to the viewing,

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you've found something you've fallen in love with -

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what do you do next?

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Well, the auction house will ask you

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to fill out a registration form with all your details.

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Fill that out and take it along to the office.

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Hand it in there.

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And the pretty girl in the office will give you a registration number.

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It's my first time at the auction,

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so this is my first bidding number.

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If you can't come along to the auction,

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there are other ways of bidding.

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You can leave a commission bid,

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and that enables the auctioneer to bid on your behalf

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to the sum that you have left.

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I've got multiple bids on the book.

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Little bit of interest with me. What can I start the bidding at?

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I've two commissions. £100 with me.

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If you'd like to be a wee bit closer to the auction, you can make a telephone bid.

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We ought to get straight into this,

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because we've got all the telephones and all the net...

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But you can also bid online.

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700. 700. 750. 750. 800 now.

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Isn't technology wonderful?

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100 with me. 110.

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120. 130. 140.

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It's time for the auction. The moment of truth.

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I always advise new buyers to have a fixed price in their head

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and not to go beyond it,

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unless, of course, you can't live without it.

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But remember to factor in the commission.

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If you're buying something for £100,

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and the commission is 15%,

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that's £115, and there's VAT on top of 20% - another £3.

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So for every £100,

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you will be paying £118.

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Set yourself a limit. Because we all do it -

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you say, "Right, I'll bid £50", and you're still bidding at £70.

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So stick to your limit.

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Because you can get carried away.

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It's very exciting when your lot is coming up.

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My advice is to get near the auctioneer, watch what's going on,

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have your bidding card at the ready.

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When your lot is there, get into the bidding

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and battle it out with the other bidders.

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And, hopefully, you'll win.

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Start me at £50.

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50 bid.

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50 with you, sir.

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It's a good social thing to do.

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You get to come, meet your friends, come with your family.

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It's a good day out.

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I'm excited and looking forward to it.

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And I think it'll be good fun.

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I suppose the one tip is if you're going to buy, then buy quality,

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because it's only going to increase in value.

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60.

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70. 80.

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90.

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100.

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It's a thrilling experience,

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and, hopefully, you'll have won your lot.

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Enjoy the item that you've bought

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and, even more importantly, I hope you've enjoyed the auction.

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190.

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Our expert Thomas Plant also knows all about the fun of the

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auction. And just how unpredictable it can be!

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Miranda and Ruby turned up with this tin biscuit barrel.

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I thought, "This is rather nice."

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Our late mother owned it.

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-Your late mother. So you girls are sisters?

-Yes.

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I never would have guessed(!)

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-This...you're talking about your biscuit barrel.

-Yes.

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Well, if I take the lid off,

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it sort of helps us here.

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Look - "McVitie & Price, biscuit manufacturers.

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"To HM the King and the Prince of Wales."

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There we are. "Edinburgh and London."

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So, nicely printed there.

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Obviously, it is a biscuit tin.

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-Yes.

-But what I liked about it

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was the object itself.

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A biscuit tin can just be a plain, simple, rectangular or square tin.

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But people then decided,

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"No, we don't want to do that. We want to make interesting objects",

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and that's what important about this - the design

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and the lithography,

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which is the feathers, the painting,

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the printing on it.

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It was big.

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Big biscuit tin. You could get a lot of biscuits in there.

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It was a fabulous design.

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And also, it was for a company which we still recognise today.

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When was she married?

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1952.

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1952.

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So I think it could have been her mother's.

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-It might have been.

-I think it's Deco, yes.

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1920s, I would have thought.

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Maybe a little earlier.

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You've got so many collectors.

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You've got the people who collect birds,

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you've got the people who collect McVitie's biscuit items,

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you've got biscuit tin people,

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and you've got the printing people.

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This early form of printing onto metal,

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which is really quite difficult and quite rare.

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So, you know, there are four sets of people collecting,

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and then you've got the fifth - the one with the money - the decorative market.

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Because it's just SO decorative.

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So I think it was a win/win situation.

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And poor old TP didn't think about that, did he?

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He just put £50 to £80 on it, £40 reserve.

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"Sisters, I think you'll be lucky if you get £50,"

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I thought to myself!

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How wrong was I?!

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So...what happened at auction?

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Very unusual little item, this is.

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I can start at £80. At £80.

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180, we've gone. 180.

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I thought,

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"What's going on here? 180?!"

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And then it just started... 190, 200, 210...

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It started going up.

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290. 300. 320.

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340.

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360.

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I didn't expect that much.

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400. 420.

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420? 420.

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440. 460.

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-Is this our lot?!

-Yeah!

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620.

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And then in the audience, you see somebody like this, with their card.

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I mean, you LOVE those people as an auctioneer,

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because they're just holding it up.

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There's none of this... It's "I want this!"

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And it went up and up and up

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and I was shocked.

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And then I looked at them,

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and one of them had a grin so wide, it sort of

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took over her face!

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It was just so much fun.

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900. 950.

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950. 1,000.

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£1,000!

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1,050 it is. By the stairs, 1,050.

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Are we all done and finished?

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The hammer's gone down at £1,050!

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Well done, you two!

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What's going through your minds right now?

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I don't know!

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It's just shock, really.

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The biscuit tin flew at auction because it was rare

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and appealed to a wide range of collectors.

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That's when you hold your hands up.

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But you saw the joy on their faces. And you think,

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"Well, you know, that's why it's not an exact science."

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That's why I'm not in a lab!

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It just goes to show, with all the research and advice in the

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world, when you are buying or selling antiques, you cannot

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always be sure what will happen on the day. And that's the

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excitement of the auction. Remember, your furred or feathered

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collectables could earn you a few pounds and prove to be your

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best friend. Join me again soon for more Trade Secrets.

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