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Today, we're in West Yorkshire in the pretty and historical village of Saltaire. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:08 | |
It was created as a model village in 1853 | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
by Yorkshire industrialist Sir Titus Salt, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and it has a rich history of architecture and culture, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
so it seems to be the perfect place to meet up with all the locals | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
and look at their unwanted antiques. Welcome to Flog It! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
And this is where it all starts, a Flog It valuation day. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
And we are certainly blessed with a wonderful location - | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
the grand, the very imposing Victoria Hall. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
At nearly 150 years old, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
it looks as beautiful today as it did back then. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
In fact, the whole village is totally alluring. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
It's a magnet for artists, poets, writers, musicians and, of course, today, | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
hundreds of people laden with bags and boxes full of antiques. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
The lucky ones will go to auction and earn a small fortune. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
They've all come to ask that all-important question - what's it worth? | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
-And when they find out, what are they going to do? -ALL: Flog it! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
But first, we have to find it. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
And wasting no time getting stuck in are our experts, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Michael Baggott and David Barby. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Hugely knowledgeable in the antiques trade, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
I doubt their professional eye will miss anything of interest. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
This one guy that can remember all the letters and the dates. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
-Apart from that one! -That is an achievement! | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Today's programme is full of fabulous items from all over the globe, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
but can you work out which one of the following ISN'T European? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
There four Lalique-style light shades, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
this late 19th-century clock | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
or these porcelain scent flasks? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Everybody is now safely seated inside, and I must say, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
the interior of this building is as spectacular and magnificent | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
as the exterior, built in 1869. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
They certainly don't build things like this today, do they? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
Let's hope we can find some antiques worthy of such a venue. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
It looks like Michael has made a fantastic start. He's spotted a real gem. Take a look at this. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
-John, thank you very much for coming along today. -You're welcome. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
-It was David who called me over in the queue earlier. -It was. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
-He showed me this lovely purse... -Mm-hmm. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
..and then this wonderful little fellow inside it. But where did you get them from? | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
You don't look like the sort of man that has a lady's purse! | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
No. They came in a box of equipment which was going to our charity, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
-the Marie Curie one. -These were in the bottom of the donation box? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Yes, in the bottom, in a plastic bag, along with that. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
-So when your eye spied these... -I thought, "That's too good for the shop." | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
-The glint of silver alerted you. -The weight of it alone. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-That's a very good point. -It's very heavy for what it is. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
We'll look at the purse first. Basically, we've got a ladies evening bag. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
If you could afford it, in the early part of the 20th century, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
you would have a mesh bag made out of solid silver. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Most of these aren't made in this country. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
-This meshwork is a bit too fine and delicate. -It's very delicate. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
It was a speciality of French and German silversmiths. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
So we've got here a solid silver frame mount. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Because it was imported, we've got the import marks for London, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
-and the date letter for 1918. -1918. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
We do, I think, go mainly by the weight of this. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I think we're about four ounces, three to four ounces. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-On the kitchen scales, it was about four ounces. -Scales in my fingers, what can I say? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
-What's more interesting is what was in it. -That was in. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
-Do you know what that is? -It's a Vesta. -It is, it's a Vesta case. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-Basically, a case for matches. -Mmm. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
People wonder, "Why do you have cases for matches?" | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
They had a tendency to go off, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-and you'd be lucky to get out... -Set your jacket on fire. -Exactly! | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
So, as a safety feature, they put them in metal tins, and, of course... | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
-Logically. -..as soon as you do that, as soon as it becomes an accessory, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
you want to decorate it, and make it into various novelties. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
We've got, "Guild of St Aloysius, St Cuthberts." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
-So it's obviously had... -Church connections along the way. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Church connections, or an association. And we've got, "souvenir" on the top. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:45 | |
We have got hallmarks there, which are very nice. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-No maker's mark, sadly, which is a little unusual. -It's a shame. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
But we've got the hallmarks for Birmingham 1890. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Now, there is something unusual about those marks. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-1890 was the year when the duty on silver was abolished. -Oh, right. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
To show that the duty had been paid, you would have the sovereign's head, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
-George III, William IV, Victoria. -Queen Victoria. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It's marked there. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
Because this was the year when they abolished it, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
we know that those marks are only in use up to the 1st May, 1890. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
It probably won't make a great deal of difference to the value but it's just quirky. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:26 | |
What probably will make a difference to the value is the split. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Absolutely! That instantly takes some of the value off, not a lot, I hope. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
It's not all of it but it's a little job that needs to be done. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-I think, at auction, we would put these in together. -I would think so. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:42 | |
If they part on their separate ways after the auction, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
all the better for that. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:45 | |
Let's put them in at £80 to £120. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
I reckon that at 40 to 60 and I reckon that at 40 to 60. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
-It all the profit, that's what it's going to. -It's all for the hospice? -Absolutely. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-Thanks very much indeed, John. -Thank you for that. -It's a pleasure. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
It's a great cause and the more we can bag in the saleroom, the better. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
In the meantime, let's trot over to David Barby. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
-Mary? -Yes. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
-I've always liked Beswick figures. -Yes. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
Is this part of your collection you've got tired of, or what? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
No, it's a one-off. It was my step-mum's. She had it for a long time. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
-She passed away in the year 2000. -And you've had it ever since? -Yes. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
Do you not like it? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
Yeah, I do like it, but it's not to my decor | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
and I don't want it to get damaged. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
-It's too nice for it to be damaged by the children. -It is a very nice model. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
Beswick are very good, particularly the modelling of horses. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-I'm just going to check that it is Beswick. -It is. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Yeah, there's the mark. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
-It's not often you see them reclining like this. -No. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
This is a dappled mare, or stallion. That's rather a nice position. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Very attentive, as though he's just caught a noise or something like that. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
His ears are upright. It's a very well-observed sculpture. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
-I like the colouring as well and the fact that it's table level. -Yes. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Or cabinet level. I've seen cabinets chock-a-block with these horses, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
they look very good. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
-The value of these depends on the appeal at the time of auction. -Yeah. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
If you've got a lot of farmers in, they will bid high. Horses, very, very popular. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
Pigs are popular and sheep, anything to do with domestic animals | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
and the horse is a domestic animal. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
So there's a wide interest, a wide market. Everything has its price. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:30 | |
These figures are well documented, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
depending on whether they're cracked or damaged or chipped. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
This one's in lovely condition. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I think at auction this will sell somewhere between £50 and £90. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
That sort of price range. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:43 | |
They have made considerably more. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
-I'm just allowing for the state of market. -Yeah. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
-Would you be happy at that? -Yeah. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
I think we need to put a reserve. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Let's guard it from going below a figure that we really want | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
and put a reserve price at £50. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
-Is that acceptable? -That's fine. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
-Can I say £50 with discretion? -Yeah. -OK. So if he gets 48, the hammer will come down. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
-Yeah, that's fine. -OK. I think it's important not to lose a purchaser. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
If you get £50, what are you going to do with it? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
-I'm going to buy some ladies. -Some ladies? -Yes. -Doulton ladies? -Yes. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
Now is the time to buy, particularly at auction, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
because prices are not as high as a few years ago. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
There might be Doulton ladies at the sale when you sell this. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I'll be looking. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Well, it appears Michael was also looking and spotted some first. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
John, I can really have no complaint today | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
because you've brought me four scantily-clad ladies. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Where did you get them from? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I was working on the house due for refurbishment | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
and they were in boxes that were going in the skip. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
I delved into it and found one, delved a bit further and found the four glass things. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
I looked a bit further and found these and I thought... | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
-Those must go with those? -No, I didn't. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
-I brought them home, tried to fit them together and realised... -Bingo? -Yeah. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
It's scandalous that at any time these were heading for a skip. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
First of all, well done for stopping them going in there, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
because what a terrible loss. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
You got these home, they are signed here | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Muller Fres Luneville. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Did you look that up, or do any work on that? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
-When I got them, I took them to a local antiques dealer to find out... -What they were. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
He told me that Muller Fres was Muller Brothers. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-Luneville was light city... -Absolutely. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
And they were Art Nouveau, probably 1930s-ish. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Near enough, near enough. I can fill it out a little bit more. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
You've got the fantastic glassworks run by Emile Galle. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
And Muller brothers, before they set up on their own, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
worked for Galle, but they left him in about 1905 | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
and were working through the '20s and '30s and I think they closed in 1937. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
So, basically, you've got something that's very much like, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
if anyone seen any Lalique on Flog It, it's very much in his style. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
We've got press moulded glass, which is given this contrast | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
by this acid etching | 0:10:10 | 0:10:11 | |
and we've got the acid etched signatures on each one. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
And lovely that we've got the original mounts. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Whilst they trained under Galle and his wonderful techniques | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
and learnt their craft there, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
by the time these were produced, which I imagine is about 1925, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Lalique is the most fashionable glassmaker in France. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
He's the one they're imitating. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
Possibly, in some respects, surpassing. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
The figures are beautifully thought out and made. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I think we've basically got two pairs, rather than a set of four. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
This one sadly has had a bit of damage here, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
but when that is mounted in the frame and on the wall, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
I don't honestly think that'll make a great deal of difference. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Right, now we know all about them, it's really a question of what they're worth. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
You took them to an antiques dealer to find out what they were in the first place. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
He must have made you an offer, John. What did he say? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
He offered me £75 each for them. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
I think, at the time, that was probably quite a fair offer, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
although these things were very popular ten years ago. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
Bearing in mind the bit of damage here, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I want to be a little bit more cautious | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
and say £250 to £350 at auction | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
with a fixed reserve of £250. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I think that really is good value for whoever's looking to buy them. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Maybe they'll go on from that. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Why now have you decided to part with them? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
When I got them, we were doing a restoration at home | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and I thought possibly we may use them. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
We finished the restoration and never used them | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
and they've just sat in that box. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
That box that might one day make it back into a skip unless we get them into the auction. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
-Yeah. -Let's put them into the sale and hopefully they will fly on the day. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
-Thank you so much for bringing them in. -My pleasure. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
It's a hive of activity down there. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
We certainly have been very industrious. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
We've now found our first three items to take off to auction. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
Let's up the tempo. Let's put those valuations to the test. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
While we make our way to the saleroom, here's a run-down, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
just to jog your memory of all the items going under the hammer. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
Michael got the ball rolling with the evening bag | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and Victorian Vesta case, both donated to a charity shop. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
Any profits go to a good cause. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Next, the Beswick horse should have no problem galloping to its top estimate. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
And, finally, these glass light shades caught Michael's eye | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
and I've no doubt they'll find some admirers in the saleroom. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
It's auction time, and we're just outside Halifax, at Calder Valley auctioneers | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
with auctioneer Ian Peace. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
It is a jam-packed saleroom. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Take a look at this - hundreds of people, you just cannot move. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
There's not a seat to spare. Any moment now, the auction will start. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Ian Peace will take to the rostrum and sell the lots. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
Stay tuned, don't go away. This could get exciting. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
First up hoping to seduce the bidders are those desirable light shades. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
It's great to see you, John. I've been thinking about these ever since yesterday | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
when I chatted to the auctioneer. Ian fell in love with them, I like them... | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Obviously, great subject matter but it's pure quality. Pure quality. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
Not quite sure if the brackets were made for them. They look like a rough cast. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
-They do, but remember they're experts in making glass, not metal mounts. -OK. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
They do fit when they are up on the wall. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
-The thing is, they're very stylish. -Very architectural as well. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
Get a set of two or four in a row, and you've got this stunning look. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Found in a skip! That's unbelievable. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Let's find out what the bidders think. We know we'll get the top end. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
This could get exciting. Stay tuned, here we go. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Shades there, what am I bid for this lot here, ladies and gentlemen? | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
I've got two commission bids and I'm going to start this at £200. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
At £200. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
At 225 and £250. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
We're in. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
At 275, I have 300 here. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
At £320. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
At £340 on commission. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
At 360 in the room. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
At £360. At 360. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Are there any further bids? At £360. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Come on, we can go a bit. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
All done? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
-They've gone. £360. -Got those away. -Got them away. Well done, Michael. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
Well, they certainly attracted a lot of interest | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
and it's a good job John didn't sell them for the £300 he was offered. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
Next up, it's our old friend, Beswick. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
-It's got to go, hasn't it? -Yes. -It does. It doesn't fit the decor. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
That's what everybody's been saying. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
They're talking about that Beswick horse. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
Mind you, Beswick is contemporary, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
it does work with some modern situations. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
I can understand why people want to get rid of Victorian mirrors and over-the-top things | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
but there is a big market for Beswick horses. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
-We've seen it on the show before. Mr Barby, what do you think of this one? -I rather like this. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
Unusual because it's reclining - that's probably going to sell it - as opposed to reclining. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
-He looks good. I know you want to put the money towards some figurines. -Yeah. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
Fingers crossed, we need as much money as possible. This is it, let's see what this lot think. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
The Beswick model of a Shire mare. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Shall we say 50? £40. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-£40, thank you very much. -40, straight in. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
I'll go in fives, 45, 50, and 5, 60, and 5, 70. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
75 at the back of the room. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
-80, fresh bidder. -That's good. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Right over there at £80. Are there any further bids? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
You're back in, 85, thank you. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-That's good, isn't it? -Yeah. -£85, then, on my left. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
-Top end, well done. -That just shows how popular Beswick is. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
It always is. There's a big market for it. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
Well done on the valuation as well. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
It's a minefield, valuing Beswick, we've seen it on the show before. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
You could have a different colour, grey, and it might not sell. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
It could be a black mare and they fetch three times the money. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-Look, it's gone, you're happy. -Yes. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-You can get some figurines, hopefully. -Yes. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Well, so far so good. Let's hope that continues with John's charity lot. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:23 | |
Next up, something that's been found in a charity shop. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
It's a ladies evening bag with Vesta case. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
-It's been brought in by John. Did you find this yourself? -I did. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
A box of stuff came to the hospice and in the bottom was a plastic bag with this. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
I thought, "It's too good to put on the stall." | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
We would have probably got £4 or £5. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
It's a good trade lot, silver purse, silver Vesta. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
Nice things at antiques fairs. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
-There should be two or three bidders. -Yeah. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
-We'll see the middle or maybe the top end. -OK. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
-Oh, that's good. -It's positive, isn't it? -Absolutely. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
It's a good time to sell silver as well, the prices are high. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
Here we go. This is it. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
And the silver mesh ladies mesh evening bag | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
and it's with a Victorian silver oval Vesta case. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
What am I bid for this lot here? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
100? 80? 50, I have. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
We're in. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Low start, but it will climb. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
£70. 80, do I see? At 70 and 80. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
Oh! That's better. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
90, madam, £90. £100. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
That's even better. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
£100, any advance on 100? | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
£110 there. 120. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
They like it, that's the main thing. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
I think it's reached its value. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
First and last time... | 0:17:31 | 0:17:32 | |
-Good result. -Well done. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
That's a pleasure. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
Thankfully, the money is all going back to charity. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
And thanks to you, you spotted it. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
A lot of these things do sneak out, don't they? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
It costs us £9,000 a day to keep the hospice open. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-Does it really? -It does. -So every penny helps. -Of course it does. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
So that's it for our first visit to the saleroom. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
Now, one of the ways auction houses earn their money is to try | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
to authenticate items before they go under the hammer. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
It takes expertise and detective work and it's not as easy as you might think. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
I've come to Temple Newsam in Leeds to discover for myself | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
just how tricky certifying antiques can be, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
particularly in one of my favourite areas, furniture. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
For me, there's one name that always tops the list when it comes to good design and cabinet making. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
That name is as popular today as it was two and a half centuries ago - | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
the legend, Thomas Chippendale. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Chippendale was born in West Yorkshire in 1718. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
His wood furniture design and craftsmanship soon became renowned nationwide, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
like these examples at Harewood House. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
His name is famous throughout the world | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
but his work can be more difficult to identify than you may think. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
Even if you have got £1 million to spend, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
it doesn't guarantee you'll get a genuine, authenticated piece. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
Take this exquisite Harrington commode, for example. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
It recently sold at Sotheby's for over £3.5 million - | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
a world record for any piece of English furniture. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
Even with a price tag like that, is not guaranteed to be by Thomas Chippendale. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:14 | |
Rather, it was described as, "Almost certainly crafted by him." | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
However, this Rococo rosewood bookcase at Dumfries house | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
is authenticated as a Thomas Chippendale piece. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
It was estimated in 2007 by Christie's at £4 million. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
It's thought that if sold at auction it could triple that estimate | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
which would make it one of the most valuable pieces of furniture in the world. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
So how do you spot the genuine article? | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
It's estimated there are around 600 authenticated pieces | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
of Thomas Chippendale's work surviving in the world today. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
When I mean that, I mean works made by Thomas Chippendale | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
during his lifetime from his workshops in St Martin's Lane, London. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
Add to that, of other craftsmen working around the country | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
who merely emulated his work. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Take these four chairs as an example. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
One of them is the odd one out and it's really difficult to tell. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
All of them are beautiful works from the 18th century and are based on a Thomas Chippendale design. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
One of them isn't a genuine Chippendale, but which one? | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Well, there are clues. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
So, looking at this chair now, typical latticework back. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Obviously, the Chinoiserie period. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Wonderful carved cresting on the back rail. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Good, deep colour to the mahogany. Cuban mahogany, only the best. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
This was quarter sawn, the heart wood, very expensive to use | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
because there was a lot of waste. Thomas's chairs were expensive in their day. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
Wonderful carved open splat backs as well, which Thomas Chippendale was renowned for. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:55 | |
A little bit of French influence from the Rococo, the early period, here. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
High cab leg, crisp carving, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:00 | |
terminating in a wonderful dancing hoof foot. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Look at the broadness of the seats, no expense spared | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
because these chairs were made for wealthy gentleman. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Gentleman, who had made it in life. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
They were rich, they were portly, so it had to take their weight and their abuse. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I love this chair with this splat back look, that lyre. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
That's taken a great deal of skill to do. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
A bit of neoclassical influence - | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
the little roundel with the beads, typical of Thomas Chippendale. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
The C scroll here and that whole Robert Adam thing coming into play, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
the grand tour. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
We've got these neoclassical columns, fluted legs, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
terminating on a block foot. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
That looks like the pillar of a Roman temple. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
This chair, lastly - it's got a lovely splat back. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
It's a smaller proportion than the rest of the chairs. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
It's slightly lighter in hue. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I would say that's not Cuban mahogany. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
I would say the proportions aren't generous enough for Thomas Chippendale. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
They are mean, slightly pinched. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
So, for me, that one is the odd one out. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
I tell you what, it is so difficult to tell. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
So why is there furniture in the style of Chippendale | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
but not actually made by him? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
It's all because of a book he published in 1754 | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
called The Gentleman And Cabinet Maker's Director. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
It was extremely influential and a real marketing coup - | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
the first book to be published with deluxe furniture designs. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
The rich could choose which designs they wanted | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
and place an order, or any decent furniture maker could copy them. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
It was such a hit, two more editions followed. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Here at Temple Newsam, they have some wonderful authenticated examples of his work. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
Some are owned by the house and others by the Chippendale Society. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
The star piece is this writing table. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I caught up with Ian Fraser, the in-house furniture expert... | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
..who is also the Chippendale Society's honorary conservator, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and fellow furniture enthusiast, to tell me more about it. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
-Ian, hello. -How do you do? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I couldn't come to Temple Newsam without speaking to you | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-and seeing this magnificent desk. -It's good, isn't it? | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It really is the Holy Grail. How did it arrive here? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Harewood House, when it was still a private house, they sold it. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I guess perhaps the Lordship needed the money. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
It came up for auction in 1963 | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and it was acquired for Leeds City Art Gallery for display at Temple Newsam house. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
It's got that country house, lived-in look. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
-It's lost a lot of the colour on the marquetry. -It has. Inevitably, it has. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
It's lost the greens and the reds but I don't mind that. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
-How do you know it's a genuine Chippendale, are there receipts? -There are, at Harewood house. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
This is part of Chippendale's greatest commission for Harewood House. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
They have the documentary evidence. That's why we know it's Chippendale. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
-Absolutely no question. -Do you know what year this was made in? -1772, I think. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
The height of the neoclassical period. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
-You can see it's neoclassical, can't you? -Yes. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
-The wonderful applied architectural detail. -Swags and pinion, yeah. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
-Have you worked on this at all? -I have done some remedial works to it. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Lifting veneers, putting them back down. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
It was interesting because we were able to see | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
some of the original colours | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
when we turned the veneers over. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
You can learn so much just from looking at the joints. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
The quality of the cabinet making is outstanding, it really is. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Do the drawers slide as beautifully as they did...? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
-Yes, you're welcome to try it if you like. -Pull one out for me. -We can try. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
-Yes, they do... -Have a dovetail. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Let's take it out completely | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
and you can see the quality of the dovetail joints there. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Yeah. Look at that. The dovetails, yeah. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
-It's just outstanding quality. -Cut with a fine tenon saw. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
-You're from Canada, aren't you? -That's right. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
What do you think about Chippendale? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
-Does he make the grade over there? -Oh, absolutely. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
I mean, the name of Thomas Chippendale is synonymous with fine craftsmanship and design. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
It is incredible. If you're into cabinet making | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and find craftsmanship like this... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
He was light years ahead. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
-It's a religious experience, isn't it? -Approaching it, yes. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
The books were the key to his success. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
They reached a wider audience and he became a household name. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
He was really clever. He didn't just target the gentleman of the house, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
he targeted the ladies, making smaller, delicate pieces of furniture for them. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
In short, he was a marketing genius | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
and he didn't mind other craftsmen copying him. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
He even advertised the fact, and that is why today we see | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
so many pieces of furniture of the Chippendale style | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
and of the Chippendale period. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
But unless you have a piece of furniture that's made by Thomas Chippendale | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
in his workshops in St Martin's Lane in London, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
with documented evidence and a bill of sale, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
you will never know for sure if it's the genuine article. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
Welcome back to Victoria Hall, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
our valuation day venue here in Saltaire. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
I must say, there's still a crowd outside. The room is full inside. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
We really do have our work cut out today. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
But right now let's catch up with our experts | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
and see what else we can find to take off to auction. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
And David is up first with Catherine and her son Harry. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
I'm always surprised when people want to sell medals, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
because they are part of your history. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
In particular, for people like Harry's age, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
because he might want to ask you in years to come, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
"What did my grandfather do? "What did Great-grandfather do?" | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
-Yeah. -What can you show him from that period? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Do these belong to your family? | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
They did, but they weren't immediate family. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
It was my grandfather's father's... | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
-Was it grandfather's father's...? -Grandfather's brother's wife's brother. -That's it. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:27:10 | 0:27:11 | |
So very distantly related. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
I can understand why you wanted to sell these. They are interesting. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
They are part of our history and I like the idea that someone | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
is going to obtain that and these medals | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
and melt them into a collage with a description of the history of this particular gentleman | 0:27:24 | 0:27:31 | |
who died during the war and you've got this preserved for posterity. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
How did you get hold of them? | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
It was my mother that's given them to myself and my brother. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
-You know, she did say to sell them if we wished. -Right. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
I think they're going to make an interesting sum. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
What is so interesting is this gentleman here. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
Joseph Johnson Greenwood. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
He was only 19 when he died. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
He died in modern day Iraq - it was called Mesopotamia - | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
at a town called Amara. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
-This is all detailed for posterity in war records. -Yes. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
-We know also that he died at a hospital camp. -Yes. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
But all that is left of that gentleman is this bronze disc here | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
which was awarded, or sent, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
to all the families that lost loved ones at the front. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:25 | |
-Right. -That is why it was sent. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
In addition, there are two medals here. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
The Victory For Civilisation medal, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
and this is the Military Medal here. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
To accompany those medals, we've also got the certificates | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
which were sent in the box. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Those were sent together with ribbons so they could be worn. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
-These were all sent posthumously. -Yes. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
-Because he had died by the time these medals were struck. -Yes. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
From his person, we have this almost Bakelite tag. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:58 | |
So, if he was found, many years later, from his remains, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
that tag would have survived and we could tell who he was. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
And stamped into that we have the name "Greenwood, The King's Own". | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
Somewhere along the line, he acquired this one here, | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
which is War Munitions Volunteers. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
One wonders whether, in fact, he was given that because he volunteered underage. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
Oh, right, yes. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
Or whether he got through into the Army because he was a volunteer. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
Let's talk about valuation money. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
We're selling a little bit of English history here. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
There are collectors out there of militaria and in particular medals and medallions. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
When these go up for sale, with all the documentation, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
I think someone will pay between £100 and £120. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
I think we need to put a reserve on it | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
and it has to be either close to, or on £100, with discretion. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
Right. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
-Is that going to be invested in Harry? -Of course! | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
All I can see is ice creams! | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
I feel very privileged to have handled these | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-and looked at the documentation. Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
It's always a poignant reminder to what previous generations sacrificed | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
when we see medals like that on the programme. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Let's check in with Michael, who's found something from a bit further afield. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
Angela, Andy, thank you for bringing along these exquisite little vases. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
Is it a case of one each? Who do they belong to? | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
-We haven't discussed that, have we? -I think we'll share them, yes. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Marvellous. Where did they come from? | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
They were from my grandmother. My mother then inherited them | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
and then subsequently they came down to me. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
I heard that my grandfather collected antiques. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
They weren't antiques - they were probably new when he collected them, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
in the early part of the 20th century. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
About 1900, 1910? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
I would imagine that was about the period when he acquired these. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
If I could build a time machine and go back to buying then, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
that would be absolutely wonderful. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
-Are they treasured things? -I've always liked them, really. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
We did have a valuation done on them about six years ago. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
-Right. -They said that because there was some slight damage | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
on one of the necks and on the base of one of them, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
they would probably be valued around £200 to £400. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
That's a help for me, anyway. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
That was at the time, but I really don't know. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
We've got these two lovely designs. Angela, which is your favourite? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Definitely that one. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
-Andy, which one do you prefer? -I prefer the other one. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
I mean, I have to say, whilst the quality of this is breathtaking, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
-there is something in the aesthetic there that I love. -So delicate. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I'm with you on that, Angela. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
It's this attention on small items that appeals to the Japanese market as well. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
You've got the cherry blossom here or sakura. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
You've got probably another indigenous Japanese flower here. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
You've got these little covers | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
and hopefully, we've got... Yes, signatures. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
We've got a seal mark. That's the stylised signature of the artist. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
We've got... | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
Again, another one. That appears to be a different mark. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
It's a bit more finely executed. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
-Does that mean it's different maker? -Possibly, there's a potter that has produced this form | 0:32:20 | 0:32:26 | |
but independent artists decorated them in a different way. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
-Oh, right. -Yes. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
These things were made at the end of the 19th century | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
for the Western market. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:37 | |
When your grandfather bought these, they probably came in little fitted pine or cherry wood cases. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:42 | |
You would actually have more information about the vases | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
decorated onto the front. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
-As is the way... -They would be discarded. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
We being vulgar Westerners, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
we chuck the boxes away and put them on the mantelpiece. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
The Japanese aesthetic is to keep these things in the boxes | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
because they believe the more you look at an item, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
the more it devalues it aesthetically. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
It's the whole ritual of taking an item out in an box. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
It would have a silk cord around it. You would unwrap it, | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
and you would take your vase out, your friend would look at it, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
and then it would go back and live in the box. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
So, without the boxes and with the chips... | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
And believe you me, Japanese collectors do not like imperfection in any way or form, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:27 | |
-no matter how small those chips are, they will fixate on them. -Yes. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Still, I think they're lovely. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
I think they're probably the most beautiful bit of Oriental porcelain we've ever had on Flog It. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
The problem is the market has gone down slightly | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
in the last six or seven years. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
Japanese things used to be what everybody wanted and now it's Chinese things. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
Having said that, your initial valuation, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
even given the little bits of damage, was probably quite low. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
So let's give them a go. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:58 | |
Let's say £300 to £500. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
-Yeah? -Let's put a reserve, with a little bit of discretion, | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-so let's fix it at, say, 250. -Yes. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
-Which is more than the original valuation. -Yes. -Let's see if a couple of people | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
fall in love with them. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:12 | |
I know today I certainly have. Thank you so much for bringing them in. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
Thank you. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
-It's Jeff and Jane? -Yes. -Do you jointly own this? | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
Is it a family heirloom? From which side? | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
-It was given to Jane. -Yes. -Given to you by whom? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
By an eccentric uncle. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
-An eccentric uncle? -Yes. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
-It is a bit of an eccentric clock, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-Is this all that he left you? -He actually gave me it before he died. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
But he did leave lots of very interesting things. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
The things I'm looking for are the missing objects, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:51 | |
two vases or candlesticks either side. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Then that would complete the garniture de cheminee. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
In other words, a clock with two side pieces. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
-Do you have those at home and not recognised what they were? -No. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
It would be nice if we had the complete set. Now we're just looking at an unusual clock | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
and this would have been sold around 1870, 1880. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
What I like about this, first of all, it's a time piece | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
with a conventional movement, probably by Japy Freres. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Just think of the house that would have come from. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
Either a French property, or it's been imported into England, | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and this would have been standing, together with the two side pieces, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
on a walnut credenza, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
a rather ornate piece of furniture, for display. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
Because this is a display piece. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
What I like about it is the components. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
We have blue and white ceramic and these gilded metal sections | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
which at some time or other have been lacquered. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
We're not running into a vast amount of money. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
What I like about the ceramic is it is a copy | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
of a type of ceramic that existed | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
during the 17th and 18th century in Holland, Delft. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:04 | |
We are looking back to the 18th century for inspiration | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
for this ceramic piece. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
It looks slightly Oriental and that's because Oriental porcelain | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
was being imported into Europe and the Europeans copied the Oriental pieces. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
The actual movement itself is eight-day and it strikes on a bell. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:24 | |
That's a good quality movement. The actual face itself is decorated | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
with a sort of rose lancet design in the middle. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
Then you have all this decorative elements of lion heads | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
and ring handles mounted on this. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
It's made to look more expensive, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
more luxurious than actually it is. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
If you look at it, it goes against all the dictates of modern fashion. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
Modern fashion is minimalism and this is certainly not minimalistic. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:55 | |
We've got to aim it at a sensible figure to appeal to a wide market. | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
I'm thinking, in terms of the price range, of about £200 to £300. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
Hopefully, more up to about £400. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
-Would you be happy at that sort of price range? -Yes. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
I think we ought to put a reserve on this of £200. OK? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-We've got to protect your uncle's memory. -Yes. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
Our experts are now making their final choices of the day | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
and I have to say a big thank you to everybody who's turned up | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
and a fond farewell to this magnificent venue, Victoria Hall here in Saltaire. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
We do have to put those items under the hammer. Let's up the tempo. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
We're going over to the Calder Valley right now | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
and here's a quick recap of what we're taking. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
David reminded us all how important our social history is | 0:37:41 | 0:37:46 | |
with a collection of World War I medals. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
Michael sniffed out two beautiful Japanese porcelain scent flasks. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
And finally, this superb ostentatious 19th-century clock. | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
So we're back at Calder Valley auctioneers | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
and taking to the rostrum for us again is auctioneer Ian Peace. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Before we unleash the bidders, I had a chat with Ian | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
to get his take on the sweet little Japanese scent bottles. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
Thank you for this, this is one of our lots coming up in the sale tomorrow. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
Double gourd scent bottles, Japanese, early 20th century. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
Michael has put £300 to £500 on them, with a fixed reserve of £250. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:34 | |
Are we still on the money? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
No, since the original filming they have been increased to £300. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
I think that's a little bit high. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
Are the marks definitely Makuzu? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
We can't be certain. They are of that style. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
-There's a slight variation in each vase. -OK. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-There is not enough there to actually attribute to... -Makuzu. Right. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
-But we are on the money, still? £300 to £500? -Bottom estimate. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
That's OK, we can work with that. That's what auctions are all about. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
People get excited, they bid each other up, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
and before you know where you are, you've got a surprise. It could be the top end. Stay tuned. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:07 | |
So now it's sale day. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
The room is packed and our next lot under the hammer are the medals. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
We've got one bronze memorial plaque and some medals brought in by Catherine and her son, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
who can't be with us today because he is at school. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
-These have been in the family quite a long time, haven't they? -They have, yes. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Let's find out what the bidders think. These things normally sell well. Here we go. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
The First World War medals, together with the bronze death plaque. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
May I say 60? 60 I have. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
£60, thank you. 60, 70 do I see? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
At 70 here, then. At 80, at 90, 100. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
110, 120, 130, 140. £140 bid. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:49 | |
£140 bid. At 140 on my left. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
-150... -That's good, that's a late bidder. -160. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
£160 all settled. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
£160, the hammer went down. It was a very quiet hammer, going down. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
It wasn't the normal knock we have. It was £160. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
-I think it was the Iraq connection that made the difference. -Do you? -Yes. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
-Happy with that? -Very, yes. -You've got to be happy with that? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
-Yes. -Well done. -Is it going to Harry? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
It will be going towards the trip that we're going on together. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
For Harry. Harry, I hope you're watching this. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
Good luck at school as well. Keep studying. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Next it's time for Jeff and Jane's flamboyant clock. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
Good luck, good luck. Why are you selling this clock? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
It doesn't really go with our decor, really. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
-It's a lot to look at, isn't it? -I think so. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-It's a shame we haven't got the complete set. -Yes. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
The garniture de cheminee - we haven't got the two vases. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
-Then it would look great, wouldn't it? -Splendid, yes. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
A striking clock, put it on a plinth in a house, it would look marvellous. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:52 | |
-It's coming up now. -Let's find out what all the bidders in the room think, shall we? | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
The late 19th century continental porcelain mantel clock. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
Right, a couple of hundred, 150. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:03 | |
£100, 100. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
At 110, 120, 130... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
This guy's keen. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
150, 160, 170, 180. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-I think it's going. -190. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
-It's going. -190... | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Are we all done at 190? | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
-One more go. -At 190, 200 do I see? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
We're just short of the reserve at 190. 200 I can take. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
Is there a bid of 200, if not, at £190... | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
Not sold. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
He didn't sell it for the sake of £10. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
-I would have sold that. -So would I. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
-I would have used my discretion. Would you have done? -I would. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
I'm not so bothered, it will go back on my piano. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
Thank you for putting smiles on our faces, anyway. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
It was a lovely thing. Really nice. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
-Pleasure. -Never mind. -We nearly did it, we nearly did it. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
And now for our final lot - the Japanese scent bottles. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:56 | |
I wonder how Michael will react when I tell him what the auctioneer said. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
Andrew and Angela, good luck. I've been looking forward to this. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
And, Michael, it's good to see you again. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
The Japanese scent bottles, absolutely beautiful. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
I had a chat to the auctioneer yesterday. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
He said not quite an identical pair | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
and not possibly by the maker you thought. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
They're individual vases but they've been put together. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
-They are by Makuzu Kozan... -Right. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
..under the workshop run by his stepson, Hanzan. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Because they're so small, they've signed them | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
with the two-character seal mark instead of the standard four. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
See, he does know his stuff. I had a chat to the auctioneer and I was thinking, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
"Will this affect the value?" Ian said "No." He's still happy with the 300 to 500. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
He was more cautious on the lower end. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Let's find out what this lot here think, shall we? Good luck. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
A fine pair of early 20th century porcelain gourd-shaped scent flasks. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:50 | |
150, anywhere? At £100 to open. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
-100, I have. 125. -150, 175... | 0:42:52 | 0:42:57 | |
Oh, we're bit low yet. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:58 | |
210 here. 220, if you like. 210. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
At 210. Any advance at 220? 230... | 0:43:02 | 0:43:07 | |
There's a bid on the book, look. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:08 | |
250 here. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:10 | |
And 60, 260. 270, any further bids? | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
Going then at £270. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
He's using the discretion. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 | |
At £270, then. First and last time. | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
You're both right. Ian said yesterday the lower end, | 0:43:23 | 0:43:26 | |
but we're happy. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:27 | |
-Michael's happy. Yes? -Yes, oh, yes. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:30 | |
It's always the thing. Had they not been chipped, | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
then they appeal to a totally different Japanese domestic market. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
-Anyway, that made great telly. Is it, isn't it? Is it? -It is. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
And we did the business. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
That's it, it's all over. Another day in another saleroom for Flog It. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:51 | |
We've had a bit of a mixed day, some highs and lows but at least | 0:43:51 | 0:43:55 | |
everybody has gone home happy, and that's what it's all about. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
I hope you enjoy the show. See you next time for some more surprises. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
Until then, from the Calder Valley, it's goodbye. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
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