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This is an Avro Lancaster, a long-range heavy bomber,

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one of thousands that were used during World War II.

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Today, it is only one of three working Lancasters left

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in the world.

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Later on in the programme, I am going to be meeting the family

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who lovingly restored it for future generations to appreciate it.

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But right now, we are heading due north 30 miles

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to our valuation day.

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Let's start the engines!

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Welcome to Flog It!

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Lincolnshire became known as Bomber County during the Second World War.

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Its flat land and big skies made it the epicentre of RAF Bomber Command.

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And at the height of the War,

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there were more airfields here than anywhere else in the UK.

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This 350-acre estate, Normanby Park, was also used

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as a training base for the Army during the Second World War.

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But today, for one day only, the gardens

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and this magnificent

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English country manor house are home to Flog It!

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And all the people here in this magnificent queue

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are hoping it is their antiques and collectibles

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that will make a small fortune at auction.

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Stay tuned and you'll find out which ones will fly sky-high.

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The stage is being set in the house and the gardens

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and our experts are ready to greet the crowds.

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Touching down at Normanby today is Michael Baggott,

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and he has already found something priceless.

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It's worth a million pounds.

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THEY LAUGH

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Where's my car? Where did I park?

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And his trusty co-pilot today is Caroline Hawley.

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-What have you brought?

-No, he's with me.

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Oh, you brought him. You've brought each other.

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-What do you think of him?

-I think he's lovely. I think he's gorgeous.

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Is he a growler? Oh, he is! He's a squeaker.

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The crowds are arriving in the gardens,

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clutching the items they hope will be worth a hefty sum.

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But which of these will land a high price at auction?

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Will it be these handmade brass fighter planes?

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This striking Chinese necklace thought to be Buddhist prayer beads?

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Or this touching collection of World War II memorabilia?

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Well, whilst everybody is enjoying our fabulous garden party

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outside in the sunshine,

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Michael is enjoying the sumptuous interiors inside the manor house.

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Let's catch up with him now and see what he has spotted

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and who he is talking to.

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Jan, Joe, thank you so much for bringing these wonderful figurines.

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Are they something you have collected or have they come down

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through the family?

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No, my parents bought them in Hong Kong. And they came back in 1949.

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Were they there on holiday or...?

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No, my father was in the RAF and we moved out to join him

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-when he was posted out there.

-Oh, my word!

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Were these things that, at the time, your father collected

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-or were they souvenirs?

-I think they were souvenirs, yes.

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It's getting quite difficult sometimes to tell

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-whether these figures are Japanese or Chinese.

-All right.

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Just because they're bought in Hong Kong doesn't necessarily

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mean that they are going to be Chinese.

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And I think, whilst these are Chinese taste,

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I think they were carved for export.

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-Yes.

-I think, with this chap, with his very long forehead,

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that's usually the sign of sort of a deity.

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Because they think so much, they've got large foreheads. Um...

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This figure, which I think again is possibly another immortal,

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a Lohan, he is much better carved than this one.

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They're very similar, but the facial features here, I mean,

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the detail of the brow, the eyes.

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-He has got one inset eye missing.

-Yes.

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And he's got the most wonderful, elegant beard.

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If I could grow one like that, I think I'd be quite happy.

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-And they've got their original bases, as well.

-Yeah.

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I would think this would be turn-of-the-century,

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this would be about 1890, 1900.

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The downside is they are carved root wood figures.

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So, they are carved from a section of wood that grew underground,

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and you get this sort of rust colour.

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And of all the things, really, the ceramics are worth a lot of money.

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-Yes.

-The jades are worth a phenomenal amount of money.

-Yes.

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The root wood figures sort of support the rear

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in terms of value and desirability.

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-Kind of like me then.

-Don't...don't say that.

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-Value, have you given any thought either of you to the value?

-No idea.

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Cos we've never seen anything like them, so...

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I think we sell them together and I think we say

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£100 to £200.

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-And we put a fixed reserve of £100.

-Yes.

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The only caveat, so I don't look stupid on the day,

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-is that they are Chinese and they'll be on the Internet.

-Yes.

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-So, if they go and make £1,000, I suspected it all along.

-Wow!

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Don't get your hopes up.

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They really are worth about £100,

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but sometimes Chinese works of art can do funny things.

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Thank you very much for bringing them along.

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Not at all, thank you very much. It's been very interesting.

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Well, stranger things have happened on Flog It!

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You can never predict an auction. In another corner of the house,

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something rather fitting has landed at Caroline's table.

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And she is joined by Ken.

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Well, here we are in Lincolnshire, and what better thing to fly in

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than these two iconic World War II planes?

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Which look as if they could be just flying into one of the dozens

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of airfields that were around here in the Second World War.

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Now, I'm ashamed, and apologies to my father who would be horrified,

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who worked in the aerospace industry for over 40 years,

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I don't know the models. Can you tell me a bit about them?

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Well, I presume this is the Spitfire.

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And then I've been told it's the Mosquito.

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Look at the work that has gone into it and the detail in the cockpit.

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-Yeah.

-How did they come into your possession?

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Well, they have come into the family from my granddad,

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who worked in the railway yard at Doncaster.

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-He was quite a handy sort of chap?

-Yes.

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And he used to make old model planes,

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because he had a workshop.

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I've got my two boys, he used to make model planes for them.

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-So you think he made these?

-Well, we think so, yeah.

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I can imagine your grandfather in his shed,

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working lovingly for hours doing this.

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-And it comes off the base, doesn't it?

-That's right.

-Turns round.

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Solid brass. It is naively made.

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And this one, the detail in this, you can see underneath,

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the work that has gone into this.

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-He must have been very proud of them.

-That's right.

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-And they're working models, aren't they?

-Well, yeah.

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The propellers go around.

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Then, of course, at the time, he would have seen them

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going over, seen them leaving from here from his home,

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-probably from his garden shed.

-Yeah.

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As to value, Ken,

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I think that they will get quite a bit of interest round here.

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There's a lot of people that are interested

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in World War II memorabilia.

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There's a lot of people interested in planes.

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I think they could get £40 to £60.

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And if we put a fixed reserve of £40, and hope that they fly.

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-That's right. Yes, we hope so.

-Let's hope so.

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The de Havilland Mosquito bomber was nicknamed the Wooden Wonder

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because it was one of a few aircraft of its day to be made

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almost entirely out of timber.

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Sadly, the wooden frame was not built to last,

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and there are no flying Mosquitoes left today.

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The Spitfire, meanwhile,

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was produced in greater numbers than any other aircraft in the War

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and there are over 40 left today that are still in the air.

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So, let's hope we find some model plane enthusiasts

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at our Lincoln auction.

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Back outside, in case it rains, our crowd are sheltering in the marquee.

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Can I hold Munchkin?

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-You can, but she gets a bit naughty.

-Oh, does she?

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-She won't tiddle on me?

-No.

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-She won't tiddle on me?

-No, don't bother about that.

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I've got a corduroy suit on. Munchkin!

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-Shall we put a value on Munchkin?

-Now, that's a good idea!

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In a quieter part of the gardens,

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Michael has found a very personal collection of items.

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Jenny, Brian, thank you very much for bringing in this very poignant

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group of medals and documentation.

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Before I say anything about them, tell me the family history.

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You must have quite a lot with these.

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Well, this is my Uncle Ray. He was in the Navy in the Second World War.

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And I had all these documents and medals passed down to me

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through the family.

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Why have you brought them in to Flog It!?

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Well, we wanted to know a little bit more about it

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and also we would like to give him recognition

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-for what he did during the War.

-Absolutely.

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Well, it sounds sometimes odd but the people who collect these,

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they do have a sincere and genuine interest in the history of it.

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-Mm. That is what Jenny was hoping.

-Yeah.

-That is what attracts them.

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We have got the two standard stars

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and the standard medal that you get for the '39-'45 conflict.

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And we've got this very interesting medal here,

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which is the Naval General Service medal.

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And what is very important is

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we have got the additional bar for minesweeping.

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That makes it a very interesting group of medals on their own.

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But you have got this original photograph of him and you have got

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his original certificate of service, which is absolutely wonderful.

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So, we've got his name there.

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We can see that he joined up during the middle of the War.

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-Yes, 1942.

-And he was only 18 years of age then.

-Mm-hm.

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I mean, that's...

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It is a very young age to be thrust in to sort of the thick end

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of a terrible conflict like that.

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And we've got, there we go, the first ship that he was with,

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the Ganges. And he was a Second Seaman.

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And we've got the dates that he served on the individual ships.

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We go from Pembroke, Revenge...

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And there he's been made Able-bodied Seaman.

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Which he remains till the end of his service.

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And we have got a photograph here of him with the crew.

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And we think this is in training on the Ganges, don't we?

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-Yes. That's him, second from the left.

-That's marvellous.

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I mean, the thing about medals is people think,

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"Why are medals valuable?"

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And it isn't the medal that is valuable. Not to medal collectors.

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It's the associated history with it.

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And it is what a person has done. It is a section of somebody's life.

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Sometimes it can be a bit hard to put a price on these things,

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because it is our history.

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And a very important moment from history it is, as well.

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I think this group on its own,

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with the ephemera, wouldn't be greatly valuable.

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But when you add in the General Service medal

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and the bar for serving on a minesweeper,

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it becomes rare.

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-Oh, right.

-Wow.

-Had you had any thoughts as to value?

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No, not at all, really. It's just putting it all together, really.

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-That has been your interest in it, hasn't it?

-Yes.

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-Not the military side.

-No.

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I think we would be sensible to say £400 to £600.

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-Really?

-We'll put a £400 reserve on it.

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Um, but if it goes beyond that, I won't be surprised,

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because that's what those are worth

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on their own in cold hard cash.

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But this makes them much more attractive

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and much more interesting.

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-Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you for having us.

-Thanks very much.

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Well, we have been working flat out and now we are halfway

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through our day, it is time to put those valuations to the test.

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And here is a quick recap of what is going under the hammer.

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Will Jan and Joe's oriental figures shock us at the auction?

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They are definitely being sold in the right place,

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but will Lincolnshire's aviation history mean their price

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soars when they go under the hammer?

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And then there's the very personal collection of World War II history.

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Let's hope it goes to someone who can appreciate its true value.

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Lincoln is our destination for today's auction,

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and putting our items under the hammer is auctioneer Colin Young.

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The commission is 15% plus VAT.

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So, remember to factor that in if you're planning to sell or buy

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anything at auction.

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And the first lot to go under the hammer is Ken's model planes.

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-It is a nice little lot.

-It is.

-It is an unusual looking lot, as well.

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-And it couldn't be sold in a better place.

-That's right.

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Hopefully, these two little aircraft will fly out today at the top end

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of the estimate.

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That's what it is all about. Fingers crossed.

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They're going under the hammer right now. Let's put it to the test.

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Who is going to start me a £50? 50?

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50? 30 shall we go then?

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Surely. £30, anyone? 30?

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£30 bid. 32, now we go to two. At two.

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And five. Anywhere else? Five, 35.

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38. Bid 40 do I see now? 38 bid, 40 surely.

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40 it will have to be. I've already got the 38 bid. 40 coming in now.

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At 38 bid, 40 now, do I see it?

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-38 bid, 40 surely. At 38, bid 40. 40 on the Net.

-It's slow, isn't it?

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He's pushing it up, pushing it up. He is working his magic.

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-Selling at 40.

-£40, it is sold.

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-The hammer has gone down.

-Yeah.

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Not the top end they were expecting,

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but they are gone anyway, they're gone.

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-Happy with that?

-Yes, yes.

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-Please, yeah.

-Somebody is going to look at those,

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have fun with those and they'll be part of another collection.

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-That's right, yeah.

-Thank you for coming in.

-Yeah.

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Well, we thought they'd land at the higher end of the estimate,

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but they're sold anyway.

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The tension is building right now.

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We're about to put the medals under the hammer with all

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-the documentation. Wonderful personal story.

-Yes.

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Is it something that was a bit of a wrench to think about parting with?

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In a way. We really brought it to find out more about the photographs.

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It is what medal collectors want. They don't just want medals.

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-No, they want the history.

-The history.

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And you've got all of that with it. So, that makes the difference.

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-Hopefully, they will find a good home.

-Yes, I hope so.

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Here we go. This is it.

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There is a heck of a lot in this lot, so it is time to bid for it.

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Let's get on. Who's going to start me at £400 for it?

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400? Three to go then, surely. £300. 300.

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300. Two to go then, surely. 200. £200 bid.

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-220, surely.

-That's a low start.

-Mm.

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At £200 bid. 220 now.

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220 there. At 220. 240 now.

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-240.

-I'm rather hoping there are some commission bids on this.

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260. 280 now. 280. At 280.

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-300.

-We are getting there, come on.

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340. 360 now. At 340 bid.

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At 340. 360 do I see?

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At 340 bid, 360 now. At 340.

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You're out in the back row. At 340 bid.

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360 now, surely. At 340 bid. Last call then at £340...

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I'm afraid at that level, we have to withdraw it,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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In a way, I am delighted because the medals alone

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were worth £500.

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That is before you put all the documentation.

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-I'm very sorry.

-At least it didn't go for nothing.

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You know, that's the main thing, isn't it?

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-We haven't given them away.

-No.

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And that is why you fix a reserve,

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especially with a collection as personal as this.

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Jenny and Brian are still hoping to sell their collection,

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but are now looking at specialist sales for these items.

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Up next is another one of Michael's valuations.

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And after further research, the auction house has found out

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that, as Michael suspected, these are Chinese figures.

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A touch of the Orient comes to Lincoln right now with two Chinese

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carved root wood figures belonging to Jan and Joe.

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-It is great to see you again.

-Thank you.

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-How have you been since the valuation day?

-Brilliant.

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-Yeah? Enjoying the weather?

-Yes.

-Indeed.

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-What have you been doing with yourselves?

-Oh, all sorts.

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-I can't think.

-Clearing the house out for more stuff to sell

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-on Flog It!...

-That's right.

-..the next time we come to the area.

-Yes.

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-It's that magic word - Chinese.

-Yes.

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-You know, hard to put a value on.

-Yes, exactly.

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We put an estimate on and hope the buyers are there for it.

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Right. Now we are going to find out exactly what the bidders think.

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It's all down to them. Here we go.

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Two late 19th century or early 20th century Chinese root carvings.

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There we go, what shall we say for these?

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We ought to be somewhere in the region of what, £100 to £200?

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Who is going to start at 80, save the hard work?

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£80 anybody, 80?

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50 to go then, surely. £50 bid, at 50. Five anywhere else?

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Come on, come on.

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60. 65. 70. 70 is bid. And five. At 75.

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It is a good decorator's lot, this.

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-Five now. At 90 bid. 95. 100.

-We're there, yes.

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-Very good.

-We are on the market and we are selling, make no mistake.

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At £100 bid, are we all done and finished?

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Going then and selling at £100.

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-£100.

-That's wonderful. Brilliant.

-Spot on.

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-There we go, in and out.

-Yeah.

-Spot on.

-Very good.

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And they sold right on estimate. Good valuing, Michael.

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Right now, I'm going to meet a family who devoted their lives

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to sharing the history of Lincolnshire's Bomber Command.

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During the Second World War,

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over 100,000 young volunteers faced one of the most dangerous tasks

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of any British servicemen and suffered the highest casualty rates.

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Nearly half of them were killed.

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They were known as Bomber Command, the force who took on Hitler

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when air power was the only way of striking back at Nazi Germany.

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This cathedral, in the heart of Lincoln, was an important

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landmark for the men of Bomber Command, guiding them safely home.

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Lincolnshire's flat landscape and proximity to Germany made it

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the perfect place for Bomber Command to be stationed,

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earning it the nickname Bomber County.

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Thousands of planes flew from here,

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full of brave young man on dangerous missions deep into enemy territory.

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But despite their heroism,

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the men of Bomber Command found themselves ignored after the War.

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Their orders meant they led massive bombing attacks on Hamburg and

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Dresden in the later months of the War, killing thousands of civilians.

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It was after the Germans bombed the city of Coventry with such

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devastating consequences in 1940 that Commander In Chief

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of Bomber Command, Sir Arthur Harris, began a new

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and more controversial strategy known as area bombing.

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The aim was not just to destroy specific targets,

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but the people and places surrounding those targets.

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Now, many people thought these attacks unnecessary,

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as the War was virtually won by then.

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Whilst other servicemen received their medals, the controversy

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surrounding Bomber Command left these servicemen empty handed.

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For those young men who risked their lives night after night,

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it must have felt very difficult to swallow.

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But time has helped the nation realise

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the importance of Bomber Command's contribution.

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And one family especially is working hard to keep

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this memory alive.

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Harold and Fred Panton lost their brother, Christopher,

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during a bombing raid over Nuremberg on the 31st of March, 1944.

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They were all just teenagers at the time.

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To remember Christopher and the thousands of men who were

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killed fighting in Bomber Command, Fred and his family

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have set up their own museum

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and have given their lives for the last 25 years to transforming

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this old RAF base into what is now an incredible

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collection of stories and artefacts.

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The original control tower still stands and it is a stark reminder

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of the thousands of planes that flew out of this Lincolnshire airfield.

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The museum chapel has been set up to honour those men who didn't return.

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Of the 212 operations carried out from this airfield

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during the Second World War, 121 failed to come back.

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The family are very proud of their unique collection

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of World War II history, from the original buildings

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to the period vehicles.

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And their most precious antique is pretty special.

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It's only one of three working Lancasters left in the world.

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What an aircraft!

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From 1942, this mighty four-engined machine became

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the mainstay of the RAF during the Second World War.

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It carried the biggest bomb load of any other aircraft and it

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became the most famous and the most successful of all the night bombers.

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Fred and his family managed to get hold of one of the only

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Lancasters that didn't take part in active service.

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Just Jane is the centrepiece of this museum

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and has been the family's labour of love for nearly 20 years.

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She is a fine tribute to brother Chris,

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who was an engineer in Bomber Command.

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-Fred, that is the biggest antique I've seen in my life.

-Oh, is it?

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-And the biggest restoration project.

-Very good.

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You and Harold have done the most remarkable job.

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I know about your brother Christopher.

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Was really that the turning point for you to say,

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-"Right, one day I am going to do something..."

-Yes.

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-"..in his memory."

-It would be, yeah, and the Bomber Command.

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-Can you talk to me about Christopher?

-Yes.

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Tell me what happened.

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-He was on his last operation, really.

-Gosh.

-Yeah.

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And that night they went to Nuremberg.

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There should have been more clouds than what there was.

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40 miles from the target, they could see the streets in Nuremberg,

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shining about the width of your finger

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like pieces of ribbon, all the streets.

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And the German night fire took them underneath and got her starboard engine on fire.

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They lost power on one side and Nielsen couldn't hold it

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cos it still has got the bombs on it, you see.

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And, well, they didn't have a chance to get out.

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About, I don't know, four or five years ago, a German who lived not

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far from the crash site wrote to us to see if we minded him going

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-with a metal detector to see what he could find.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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-And did he find anything?

-He did.

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Well, he found this... this little adjustable spanner.

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-That was Christopher's, was it?

-Yeah, it was.

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When he went on ops, he took that.

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Just in case he had to adjust something.

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Yeah, he carried it in his pocket.

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Did he write to you before that flight or write to Mum and Dad?

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He did. Yeah, he did. The very last letter he wrote to my sister Gwen.

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And Chris, when he wrote, he never...

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he never put any kisses or anything like that

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in any letter, you know.

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In this particular... the very last letter,

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he put some kisses on it, big ones.

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I'm pretty sure he knew he wasn't going to make it, you know.

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-This...all your land here, this was an old airfield?

-It was.

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-Were Lancasters taking off from here?

-Oh, yeah, there were.

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I'd always wave to them.

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I didn't realise, I didn't know until probably two years ago,

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that a veteran said to me,

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did I know the worst thing that veterans didn't like to see?

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I said, "No, I have no idea."

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He said, "We didn't like when people used to wave to us."

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-To them, it was like waving goodbye.

-Do you know? I can imagine that.

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-One day, Fred, you and Harold are going to get this flying.

-Oh, yeah.

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Before anything happens to me, I want to see that flying.

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-I don't blame you. It'll happen. It will happen.

-It'll come.

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-You are a determined man.

-One step at a time.

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Although Just Jane taxies down the runway, she doesn't fly yet.

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But Fred's restoration project is nearing its completion.

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New engines have been ordered

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and the family hope it will be airworthy within a year.

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Here we are, right up in the cockpit.

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You know, the first thing that struck me

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was the lack of space inside.

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Secondly, now, once I have crawled the length of this aircraft,

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is there is not a lot of protection.

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I mean, you know, it's not bulletproof.

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The fuselage is very, very thin. There is glass everywhere.

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The pilot had no GPS, no satellite navigation system,

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no air traffic control, you know, telling him what to do.

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He relied on his navigator.

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And this chap had a compass, a map, a ruler and a watch, basically.

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It was crucial plotting out where precisely these bombs

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had to be dropped.

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These men, you have to remember, they were volunteers. They...

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They put their lives through hell to protect our country.

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I wouldn't have liked to have done it. I really wouldn't have.

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I don't think I'd be brave enough.

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And that bravery has finally been given the recognition it deserves.

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In June, 2012, a memorial dedicated to the men of Bomber Command

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and to the civilians who lost their lives

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in the controversial bombings was finally unveiled in London.

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-Lest we forget.

-VARIOUS: Lest we forget.

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Well, it's sad that it has taken so long for the men of Bomber Command

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to be officially recognised, but it is thanks to Fred and his family

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that their story has been told right here, in Lincolnshire.

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It is a fitting tribute to Bomber Command and to Bomber County,

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and I for one can't wait to come back in a couple of years,

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where hopefully I will take a flight with Fred.

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Well, we've landed back in the gardens at the Normanby estate.

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And the gems are coming thick and fast.

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I found something that is right up my street.

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-Janice, I love that.

-Mm-hm.

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British 20th century modern, that is my thing.

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-Yes, it's lovely, isn't it?

-I am drawn to that. Do you like it?

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I do like it. I have been looking at it for 15 years.

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-But not enough to want to keep it.

-No.

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-Because I believe you want to sell this, don't you?

-Yes, I do.

-Why?

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I think it's time it went to another home.

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-I've got other pictures to replace it.

-How did you come across this?

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I went to a church fete in a nearby village about 15 years ago

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and I got that along with two other paintings.

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Can you remember how much you paid for them?

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-I think they were about a pound each.

-That was bad, was it?

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You've got an eye for a bargain.

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There is something quite quirky about this injured rugby player,

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-the schoolboy.

-He has had a hard game.

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Yeah, but look at his perfect skin and his perfect lips.

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There is something quite... It's almost feminine how he is painted.

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-Yeah.

-Purvis, Tom Purvis,

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renowned as a poster painter

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in the early 1920s and '30s.

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He did a lot of work for the London And North Eastern Railways.

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And I would imagine this was done in the very...

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late 1920s, 1930s.

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"Only been having a game," quite cheeky.

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And that is done in pencil, which I think is really sweet.

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It's an afterthought, isn't it?

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Yeah. It's in its contemporary frame.

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I know his works have sold before.

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I've looked in the art index guides and some of his watercolours,

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which are a lot busier and larger than this,

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have sold for around about £600 to £900.

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Any thoughts about value now I've told you something?

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I haven't really got an idea, honestly, I haven't.

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Well, I think we put this into auction

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with a value of £80 to £120.

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Right, yeah. What do you think I should put on as a reserve?

0:27:370:27:40

-£80.

-£80, that is fine by me.

-Are you happy with that?

0:27:400:27:43

-I'm happy with that, yes.

-You can put a £100 reserve on it.

0:27:430:27:46

No, I'll put an 80 on it because I have enjoyed it for so long.

0:27:460:27:48

It only cost me a pound.

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-It's lovely.

-That is not a bad result.

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Somebody else will enjoy it, as well.

0:27:510:27:53

It's things like this that make my day on Flog It!

0:27:530:27:55

When you come across something like this,

0:27:550:27:57

something that you really are passionate about and you love,

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it's a joy to talk about.

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-Have you had one of his before?

-No.

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-Oh, well, that's great.

-And the great thing is, you know, for five minutes

0:28:040:28:08

of the day, this is mine,

0:28:080:28:09

I get to own this for five minutes while I am talking about it,

0:28:090:28:12

-you know?

-Well, I'm saying goodbye to it.

0:28:120:28:13

I get my fix and then someone can buy this at auction.

0:28:130:28:16

That's lovely.

0:28:160:28:17

Whilst I have been enjoying my 20th century art,

0:28:180:28:21

Caroline is working hard inside the house and has found an unusual piece of jewellery.

0:28:210:28:26

So, Sarah, you brought this along,

0:28:260:28:29

literally around your neck, and I spotted you in the queue.

0:28:290:28:32

-You did.

-It's beautiful! Now, tell me about it.

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My mother brought it back from China when she was working out there

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as one of the first ex-pats that was sent out way back in 1948.

0:28:400:28:44

She did a lot of travelling

0:28:440:28:45

and I believe she went to Tibet early on in the '50s.

0:28:450:28:50

And she brought that back with her then.

0:28:500:28:52

Well, I think these will date probably from a little earlier

0:28:520:28:55

than that, possibly the 19...late '20s, '30s.

0:28:550:28:59

-Right.

-And your mother, obviously, wore them.

0:28:590:29:02

And who else would have worn these, do you think?

0:29:020:29:05

I'm not sure anybody actually wore them.

0:29:050:29:07

I think they might have used them for like worry beads.

0:29:070:29:10

-Mm.

-For religious reasons when they think about or sit and meditate.

0:29:100:29:15

Yeah. And some of these fellows look pretty worried to me, don't they?

0:29:150:29:19

Do you wear it a lot?

0:29:190:29:20

Apart from to attract my attention today, which you did.

0:29:200:29:24

-Do you?

-No.

-No.

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It is beautifully and intricately carved. It is made of seed pods.

0:29:260:29:32

All of these are carved separately, by hand.

0:29:320:29:36

-Every expression is different.

-Absolutely.

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Have you seen, there's one I particularly like?

0:29:390:29:42

Screaming and shouting here.

0:29:420:29:45

-It is quite scary.

-It is quite scary, that one.

0:29:450:29:47

The rest, some of them are grimacing, some of them are smiling.

0:29:470:29:51

It is all tied with silk knots in between and it is a silver...

0:29:510:29:55

Chinese silver marked fastening here.

0:29:550:29:59

It's lovely. But as you say, it's not something you wear, so...

0:29:590:30:04

No, it's something we kind of have seen as children,

0:30:040:30:08

-but then put away.

-Yes.

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And then when my mother passed away, it went up into the loft.

0:30:100:30:13

-Where it has been until today.

-I think we could sell this quite well.

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Ten years ago if you had brought this to me,

0:30:180:30:20

I would say possibly not, there wouldn't be a great interest.

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But antiques, like most things, come in cycles,

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and Chinese items are very fashionable at the moment.

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And I think that this would probably sell quite well in today's market.

0:30:300:30:35

Would you be happy if we put it in to auction with

0:30:350:30:40

an estimate of £80 to £120, perhaps?

0:30:400:30:44

-Um...I guess so.

-Yeah?

-Yes.

-I mean, it could fly.

0:30:440:30:49

It could do a lot better than that,

0:30:490:30:51

but if we put it in at that sort of estimate

0:30:510:30:55

with a reserve of £80...

0:30:550:30:58

-How do you feel about that?

-Yes, OK.

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And, fingers crossed, on the day that we haven't got a screamer

0:31:000:31:04

or a grimacer, we've got this rather jolly, smiley fellow here saying,

0:31:040:31:08

-"Yes!"

-Absolutely, OK.

-That's great.

0:31:080:31:12

Worry beads or prayer beads date back to sometime around 500 BC

0:31:130:31:18

and it is thought that they originated from somewhere in India.

0:31:180:31:21

Traditionally, Buddhist beads would have been made from wood or

0:31:210:31:25

seed pod and the faces represent the Buddhist Arhats -

0:31:250:31:27

the 18 original followers of Buddha.

0:31:270:31:30

Let's hope we get a few followers of Sarah's beads at the auction.

0:31:300:31:34

Our Flog It! fans have brought some fascinating items

0:31:340:31:37

to the gardens today,

0:31:370:31:38

but inside the house, there are a few surprises, too.

0:31:380:31:41

When the Council took over the property in 1964, they had

0:31:410:31:45

a huge task on their hands of filling it with items

0:31:450:31:47

that evoke the period and create a visitor attraction.

0:31:470:31:51

The curator at the time, Michael Kirkby, was given £1,000

0:31:510:31:55

and asked to fill the house full of fine art and artefacts.

0:31:550:31:59

So, he set off around the country visiting auction rooms.

0:31:590:32:02

And this is one of his acquisitions.

0:32:020:32:04

It was catalogued as School of Titian.

0:32:040:32:07

Now, eagle-eyed Michael believed it to be the school of Rubens.

0:32:070:32:11

He paid five pounds for this.

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Now, some 21 years later, this has actually been verified

0:32:130:32:18

that it is painted by Rubens himself, in his studio,

0:32:180:32:23

and not by one of Rubens' studio artists under his guidance.

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This was painted sort of circa mid 1620s.

0:32:270:32:33

In 2002, another of Rubens' missing paintings,

0:32:330:32:36

The Massacre Of The Innocents,

0:32:360:32:38

became the most expensive painting ever auctioned in Britain

0:32:380:32:41

and it sold for almost £50 million at Sotheby's,

0:32:410:32:45

although it was a much bigger canvas than this one.

0:32:450:32:48

It is part of a series of paintings that Rubens did

0:32:480:32:51

on the first 12 emperors.

0:32:510:32:54

Here we have Emperor Otho.

0:32:540:32:57

Now, there are nine known in existence now,

0:32:570:33:00

so there are still three missing.

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So, keep an eye out, won't you, if you go to an auction?

0:33:020:33:04

You never know what you might find.

0:33:040:33:06

Now, let's catch up with our experts who are back out in the garden

0:33:060:33:10

and see what they are up to.

0:33:100:33:11

On Michael's table is a fascinating collection of medals,

0:33:130:33:16

but this time not from the War.

0:33:160:33:19

I think you must know all about them, can you tell me what they are?

0:33:190:33:22

They are actually my father's medals. He was a professional footballer.

0:33:220:33:26

He started life out in the pits

0:33:260:33:28

because he came from a mining village called Barlborough in Derbyshire.

0:33:280:33:31

And he left there when he was 16 and he went to play

0:33:310:33:35

for Frickley Colliery.

0:33:350:33:36

And then Notts Forest came and they signed him on.

0:33:360:33:41

Then he was transferred to West Bromwich Albion.

0:33:410:33:43

And he stayed there with West Bromwich Albion

0:33:430:33:45

round about five years.

0:33:450:33:47

But he had £1,000 on his head.

0:33:470:33:50

Because in them days, they put money on your head

0:33:500:33:53

if you're going to be transferred back into another league club.

0:33:530:33:56

-Good Lord!

-So, to get it off his head,

0:33:560:33:58

he came to a non-league club, and he came to Scunthorpe United here.

0:33:580:34:01

-Just down the road.

-Yes.

0:34:010:34:02

It must have been really exciting to have

0:34:020:34:04

your father as a footballer.

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Did you go to his matches and watch him?

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Well, the thing about it was, I mean, I was born in 1933.

0:34:080:34:11

-Right.

-And my father's playing career was up until about 1936.

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So, I can't remember very much about him actually playing the game.

0:34:170:34:21

-So, this is your father here?

-Yeah, Mr Pattison, Ernie Pattison.

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-Pattison, number nine.

-That's right.

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And we've got some of his original contracts, as well.

0:34:260:34:29

Yes, that one I think is the Scunthorpe contract.

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This is the Scunthorpe, the local interest one.

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But what is more important is we've got the medals.

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And we've got... These three at the front are really the most

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important, the crucial ones.

0:34:400:34:43

We have got the Central League, the Benevolent Cup winners here,

0:34:430:34:47

and we've got Doncaster and District FA Winners Cup.

0:34:470:34:52

-Yeah.

-And, of course, they're all gold.

-Yes, there are.

0:34:520:34:57

Now, I'm not a follower of football,

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but I think a few people are.

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And you have got the associated paperwork and programmes as well.

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And that, to me, if I had an interest in football,

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that would be a wonderful group to have.

0:35:100:35:13

I mean, they must have very strong sentimental attachments to you.

0:35:130:35:17

So, why, you know, haven't you sort of held on to them?

0:35:170:35:21

Well, there's a reason why I want to sell them.

0:35:210:35:23

Um, my mother actually gave them to me.

0:35:230:35:26

Now, my mother has got... This year, unfortunately,

0:35:260:35:29

she has had to go into a home.

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And she is quite old.

0:35:300:35:33

-105, or will be.

-105!

-Next Thursday.

0:35:330:35:36

-Next Thursday.

-Good grief! That's amazing.

0:35:360:35:39

There are certain costs that do occur.

0:35:390:35:41

If there is a good cause for selling the medals, I think that's it.

0:35:410:35:44

Um, right.

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Value, any idea?

0:35:470:35:50

Gold-wise, I had them appraised locally for gold,

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just the gold itself,

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and I think they said somewhere between £360 to £400

0:35:570:36:01

was the gold value.

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Thankfully, the interest in football takes them

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above and beyond that, you'll be glad to know.

0:36:070:36:09

I think we should put them in auction at...

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Reserve figure of say £700.

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And we'll put the estimate at 800 to 1,200.

0:36:160:36:18

And I think there should be interest across the board in these.

0:36:180:36:22

I don't mind the auctioneer having a bit of leeway on the price

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if we put a reserve on it... You know,

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if it's reaching near the reserve or something like that.

0:36:280:36:31

We'll put a discretion on that reserve of £700 for you.

0:36:310:36:35

June, Michael, thank you very much for bringing these in.

0:36:350:36:37

-Wonderful collection.

-Thank you, very pleased to meet you.

-Pleasure.

0:36:370:36:41

Our experts have now made their final choices -

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three wonderful items, all worthy

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of our magnificent host location for today,

0:36:500:36:52

Normanby Hall, which sadly, we have to say goodbye to now,

0:36:520:36:55

as it's off to auction in Lincoln for the very last time.

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And here is a quick recap of what's coming with us.

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I think the Purvis painting was a very clever one-pound purchase

0:37:030:37:06

for Janice.

0:37:060:37:07

She is bound to make a profit, but how much?

0:37:070:37:09

Sarah's beads definitely caught Caroline's eye,

0:37:130:37:15

but should we be excited or worried about the prospects at auction?

0:37:150:37:19

And June and Michael's collection of football medals and memorabilia

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is sure to find some fans, but will they score high in the sale room?

0:37:260:37:30

Let's find out.

0:37:300:37:32

Five, last call...

0:37:320:37:34

It is still bustling in the auction house

0:37:340:37:36

and we're hoping for bidding galore on all our items.

0:37:360:37:39

Everybody's out in the room now.

0:37:390:37:41

Fingers crossed for our next lot. Sarah, have you got them crossed?

0:37:410:37:44

I'm going to cross my legs, as well.

0:37:440:37:46

These Chinese beads are superb, they really are.

0:37:460:37:50

Or they could be Tibetan worry beads, I don't know.

0:37:500:37:53

But I love the little faces.

0:37:530:37:54

I can understand that, you know, these are valuable to you.

0:37:540:37:57

And you've obviously thought about the 80 to 120

0:37:570:37:59

with a fixed reserve of 80.

0:37:590:38:01

You've got in touch with Colin, the auctioneer.

0:38:010:38:04

-I did.

-You have raised that reserve now to £100.

-I have.

0:38:040:38:07

-Which has put the estimate up to £100 to £150.

-OK.

0:38:070:38:11

So, it can't sell for a penny under £100.

0:38:110:38:16

-What's your gut feeling, Caroline?

-I think they're going to do well.

0:38:160:38:19

-I think they are going to top the top estimate.

-OK.

0:38:190:38:22

I'm going to stick my neck out there.

0:38:220:38:24

-It is a come and buy me.

-It is, yes.

0:38:240:38:28

-Well.

-I'll hold you to that.

0:38:280:38:30

Over to Colin on the rostrum, and the bid is here in the room.

0:38:300:38:33

Let's see what we can do. Here we go.

0:38:330:38:35

Each bead carved with the head of an immortal.

0:38:350:38:38

There we go.

0:38:380:38:39

So, with this silver stamping on it, as well,

0:38:390:38:42

that ought to be over £100.

0:38:420:38:44

Who's going to start me at 100 for it? £100, 100.

0:38:440:38:47

80 to go then, surely 80.

0:38:470:38:48

£80, anybody? 80, who is going to join in? 80.

0:38:480:38:51

Thank you. Bid at £80. 90 now.

0:38:510:38:53

80 bid, 90. 90. £100 bid. At 100. 110?

0:38:530:38:56

110. 120. 130.

0:38:560:38:58

-Gone, they're away.

-150?

0:38:580:39:00

-150. 160. 170.

-Yes!

-Oh, wow.

0:39:000:39:03

170. 180. 190.

0:39:030:39:06

190. No more here.

0:39:060:39:07

-190 in the room.

-Fantastic!

-At 190.

0:39:070:39:09

It is only 190. Is there 200 anywhere else?

0:39:090:39:11

At £190 in the room. Then going at 190.

0:39:110:39:15

-Yes!

-Very happy with that, £190.

0:39:150:39:18

-Well done.

-Thank you.

-Well done, well done.

0:39:180:39:22

-Fantastic.

-That was worrying for your little bit, wasn't it?

0:39:220:39:25

I don't know about worry beads, worrying Sarah, here.

0:39:250:39:27

When he went down to 80, I was like, "Oh, no!"

0:39:270:39:30

But fantastic, thank you.

0:39:300:39:32

Great result for a fascinating item.

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And next, it's a favourite from the valuation day,

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Janice's stylish watercolour of the rugby player.

0:39:390:39:42

How have you been in the last few weeks?

0:39:420:39:44

Very well, excited about the auction.

0:39:440:39:46

So have I. Do you know what?

0:39:460:39:48

If I had a hat and this didn't sell, I would eat it.

0:39:480:39:50

Because I think this is wonderful.

0:39:500:39:51

We'll find out if it is going to sell.

0:39:510:39:53

Fingers crossed it will, and hopefully a little more than

0:39:530:39:55

what I said. It is going under the hammer right now.

0:39:550:39:58

What do we say for this?

0:39:580:40:00

Who is going to start me at £100 for it?

0:40:000:40:01

100? 100? 80 to go.

0:40:010:40:04

80? Well, if we started...

0:40:040:40:06

If they don't buy it, they've got no taste.

0:40:060:40:09

-It's going back home.

-£20 bid.

0:40:090:40:12

Oh, you can't start that low, can you?

0:40:120:40:14

28. 30. 32.

0:40:140:40:17

35. 38. Bid 40. Two.

0:40:170:40:19

-Has he got a bit on the book?

-Yes, lots.

0:40:190:40:22

He's looking down. Every alternate bid, he's looking down.

0:40:220:40:24

The book is not out yet.

0:40:240:40:26

Look, the book is not out. Someone has... Look. Book's out. £80.

0:40:260:40:30

At £80 bid. Five do I see now? At 80 at the back of the room.

0:40:300:40:34

-Come on.

-Are we all done?

0:40:340:40:35

-Selling this time.

-We're selling.

-£80...

0:40:350:40:38

-It's done, lower end.

-Never mind, that's wonderful.

0:40:380:40:41

That was a relief, wasn't it? Do you know?

0:40:410:40:44

I would be really annoyed if that didn't sell at £80,

0:40:440:40:46

-cos it was quality.

-It is. Is it good buy.

0:40:460:40:49

Well, it was at the bottom end of the estimate,

0:40:510:40:53

but Janice only paid a pound for it.

0:40:530:40:55

So, that was a good buy and a great profit.

0:40:550:40:57

Now, are we going to hit the back of the net

0:40:570:40:59

with this collection of football medals? Let's find out!

0:40:590:41:03

Originally, we had an estimate of £800 to £1,200

0:41:030:41:05

put on by Michael here.

0:41:050:41:06

-I know Colin, the auctioneer, has got in touch with you.

-He has, yeah.

0:41:060:41:10

-He has lowered the estimate.

-That's right.

-What did he say?

0:41:100:41:13

He said that he felt that maybe it was high, that realistically

0:41:130:41:16

he thought £500 to £700 was about the amount it would be at.

0:41:160:41:20

-So, we are looking at 500 to 700.

-It is one of these difficult things.

0:41:200:41:24

-It is difficult to quantify because people love football.

-Exactly.

0:41:240:41:27

-They love football memorabilia.

-And it's big business.

0:41:270:41:29

It's big business. And we as valuers known that

0:41:290:41:32

if something has got a football association,

0:41:320:41:34

that can transform a very ordinary gold badge worth scrap value

0:41:340:41:38

into something that is tremendously valuable.

0:41:380:41:40

-We've seen it happen before.

-Yeah, exactly.

0:41:400:41:43

It's a little archive, it's for a collector of football medals.

0:41:430:41:46

We just need two of them and I think we will see that top end.

0:41:460:41:50

Yeah, so do I. Fingers crossed. Here we go.

0:41:500:41:52

Lot number 275. Who is going to start me at £500? Five?

0:41:520:41:56

Four to go then, surely. £400, anybody?

0:41:560:41:58

400. 300? £300, anyone? 300.

0:41:580:42:01

-Not good.

-Mm.

0:42:010:42:02

At 320 now. 320.

0:42:020:42:04

340. And 360 on the book.

0:42:040:42:06

At 360. 380 now. 380. 400. 420.

0:42:060:42:10

You can't buy a gold football medal for 100 quid.

0:42:100:42:14

460 do I see? 460 bid now?

0:42:140:42:16

460 bid. At 460. 480.

0:42:160:42:19

At 480 bid. Any more bids now?

0:42:190:42:21

At 480 bid, any more now? At 480 bid. 500, surely.

0:42:210:42:24

At 480, 500 bid.

0:42:240:42:27

-At 500.

-Just teased us.

0:42:270:42:29

At 500. 520 now.

0:42:290:42:31

At £500, are we all done then?

0:42:310:42:33

-I think one interested bidder.

-Yes.

-Any more bids coming from the Net?

0:42:330:42:37

No. Any more from the room? All done and finished then.

0:42:370:42:40

And they are on the market and they are sold at £500.

0:42:400:42:43

Well done, Colin.

0:42:430:42:44

He teased that last bit out. He just got there.

0:42:440:42:47

Colin knew his market

0:42:470:42:48

and he was right to bring that estimate down.

0:42:480:42:50

-Surely.

-But it is always difficult

0:42:500:42:52

when you're just having one person who's bidding.

0:42:520:42:54

-Yes.

-Because you never know how far they will go.

0:42:540:42:56

-Thank you so much for coming in.

-Thank you, Paul.

0:42:560:42:59

-Thank you.

-Thanks.

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The final price was lower than our estimate,

0:43:020:43:05

but I'm sure Michael's 105-year-old mother will be happy

0:43:050:43:08

with the money, as well we know on Flog It!

0:43:080:43:11

It's not easy putting a price on an antique. Join us next time.

0:43:110:43:15

But for now, from Lincolnshire, it is goodbye from all of us.

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