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MUSIC: "FLOG IT!" THEME TUNE ON CHURCH ORGAN

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Today, we're in Guildford, pulling out all the stops.

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I've been practising my skills on the organ.

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PAUL CHUCKLES

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Well, I nearly got away with it!

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-HE CHUCKLES

-Well done! Welcome to "Flog It!"

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The venue for today's valuations is Guildford Cathedral,

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one of the most dominating structures on the Surrey skyline.

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It opened in 1961,

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after being completed with the help of the local congregation.

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And those same people are out in force today, hunting high and low

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for antiques and collectibles,

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and our experts will be looking out for quality and craftsmanship,

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but there's only one question on this lot's lips - which is?

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ALL: What's it worth? HE LAUGHS

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We've got the crowd, they've got their items.

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All we need now are our experts. And we've got James Lewis.

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It's dire!

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No, it's not! >

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That's the hand of the artist. To me, no, it's more than the image.

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-There's so much... That's amazing, I think.

-I...

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I'm so glad you're that side of the camera!

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And we've also got Mark Stacey.

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-What have you got in your shopping basket here?

-I've got my lunch.

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Oh, your lunch.

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-And my tea.

-Would you like that valued?

-Yes, please!

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So, as everyone makes their way inside,

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here's what's coming up...

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Today, we've got woodwork, glasswork and artwork.

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But which will do the best at auction?

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Will it be this decorative tribal staff?

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Or the picture that James disliked in the queue?

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Or this classic Lalique vase?

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Find out later.

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Now, here's a little bit of information for you...

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This iconic building was built by the architect Edward Maufe.

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It was built at the top of Stag Hill,

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which was donated by local nobleman, the 5th Earl of Onslow.

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And right here, where this little brass stag is,

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marks the pinnacle, the very top of the hill.

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Now, we're right behind James Lewis' filming table.

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He's our first expert who has found a real gem.

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So let's now catch up with James and see what he's got to say about this.

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Karen, let me take you back 400 years,

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to the time of King James.

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In 1601, the English East India Company was formed to try

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and bring spices and exotic products to Europe from the Far East.

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Spices, tea, tobacco, silks.

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And tea became the major product.

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In the 18th century,

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tea was more expensive per pound than gold or silver.

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So you had to have a container that you locked it up in.

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And if we open this up, we've got two compartments -

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one for black tea, one for green tea, and outside,

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this simulated casket,

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to represent the value of what is contained within.

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So, valued, but obviously not by you because it's here.

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-So, is this a family piece? Are you a collector? A tea drinker?

-No.

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It was given to my husband.

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He was working for a lady in London about 15 years ago now and

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she gave it to him as a present, and he brought it home and gave it to me.

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In other words, she didn't want it, he didn't want it, gave it to you!

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What have you done with it?

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Well, it was out on display for a few years

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and then it's been in the loft for about the last eight years.

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Let's hope that someday, somebody at the auction might want it.

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But we wondered what this is on top cos I don't think it is brass.

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It is brass, but it could well have been gold plated at the time.

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It would have been made to look like ormolu, which is gold plated bronze.

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And then here, on the top, we have a little polished stone,

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and this is banded agate.

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So there's a little section of agate on the top.

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In the 19th century, they're sometimes divided inside by

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a little circular aperture, which would contain a bowl.

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It used to be said that this was for blending the green

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with the black tea...

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But of course, it was for sugar.

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The tea was taken very, very sweet.

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And the idea of this...

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Tea wasn't taken in the way it is today, it was a ceremony,

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totally separate, wasn't drunk at the dinner table,

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you would be on a separate tea table and the lady of the house would wear

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the key around her neck,

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she would call the servant to take this tea caddy from the sideboard,

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she would bring it, unlock it, blend the tea, lock it again

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and send the tea caddy away.

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So it was very much a ceremony.

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-Date is about 1860. And a value, £60 to £100.

-Right, OK.

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-Is that all right for you?

-Yes, yes.

-Well, it'll buy you a bit of coffee.

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OK, yes! Thank you.

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All right.

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Let's hope that tea caddy can brew up a good result

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later on in the programme.

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Time now to see what Mark Stacey's got for his first item.

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-Jane, Michael.

-Hello.

-You've brought a lovely pair of dishes in for me.

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I know. They're rather sweet.

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They're fantastic. I love them. Do you know much about them?

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I know they belonged to my grandmother.

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I think I remember seeing them when I was about this high

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in her corner cupboard, which I've actually got now in my kitchen.

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And then my mother had them, and then I had them from my mother.

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-They're very, very Victorian.

-Oh, I suppose so.

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They've got a date mark on the back. The triangle.

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-But I've never found out.

-Well, we can tell you that.

-Can you?

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-Yes.

-Oh.

-They're made, of course, by one of the oldest...

-Minton.

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..factories in the country, Minton,

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-who were founded in the late 18th century.

-Right.

-And this...

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As soon as you see this type of colour and decoration,

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-it can only be one thing - Majolica.

-Yeah.

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They took the inspiration from much earlier Italian designers

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and they put a sort of Victorian twist on it,

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-so you get these very vivid turquoises and greens.

-I know.

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-That's a lovely colour.

-It's a really deep colour.

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And you can get bright pinks and bright yellows

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and reds, and these are perfect for Christmas,

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for putting sugared almonds or something like that in on the table.

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And they're realistically modelled.

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There's a sort of holly branch, with two little white birds on them.

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-They've suffered a bit though, haven't they?

-Yes, they have.

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They've got the odd chip.

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Very easily restored. That's the positive.

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And collectors of Majolica are willing to overlook

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a bit of damage on interesting pieces.

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If we look at the marks, they're fully marked underneath.

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-You have the shape number.

-Right.

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-Interesting, you have the word Minton there.

-Yes, I've seen that.

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Now, after 1872, they added an S.

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-So it became Mintons. So we know it's before 1872.

-Before 1872?

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-Gosh!

-We've got a registration lozenge as well.

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And we've got a date letter for 1869.

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-Oh, how lovely!

-What do you think of them, Michael?

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They're a little bit ornate, but otherwise...

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I suppose some people like them!

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-I don't think they're his cup of tea!

-I don't think he's keen, Jane.

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No, he's very polite.

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-But there are collectors still out there for them.

-Are there?

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Oh, yes, there are.

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Do you have any ideas yourself of what they might be worth?

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-Absolutely none. Have you?

-No.

-No?

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-I think we've got...

-Can I make a stab?

-Go on, make a stab.

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-£200, the pair?

-I don't know why I'm here.

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-I don't know why I'm here!

-It was a joke.

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No, you're absolutely right.

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-I was going to say because of the slight damage, I think we've got to be realistic.

-Yes.

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And if we put an estimate of £200-£300 on them,

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-with a fixed reserve of 200...

-Yes, OK.

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I do hope that on the day, because they're so humorous

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and they're so nicely done...

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-Like Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee.

-Exactly.

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-You're happy to put them in for that?

-Yes! Very happy!

-Great.

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-Well, I'm really pleased that we can take them to auction to see what happens.

-Good.

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Earlier on, we saw Karen, who brought along a tea caddy

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to be valued, but it turns out it wasn't the first time that we'd met.

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Now, this could be embarrassing.

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I bumped into two ladies this morning who told me they were next-door neighbours.

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-We used to live in the same little town, didn't we?

-Yes.

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-Inglesham.

-Inglesham.

-And you knew my older sister. You're Karen and you're Janet.

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I was a little bit younger than the two of you.

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-Now, what have you brought in? You've got something to show me.

-Photos.

-This is embarrassing.

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-But there I am!

-Yes, there you are.

-Look at that! Are you there? Is that you?

-Yes, that's me, there.

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-And that's my sister.

-That's your sister, Ann.

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-And there you are again.

-Oh, look at that! Is this your back garden?

-Yes.

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-Your mum and dad's.

-Yes.

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Look at that. There I am. Great shorts and with wellies.

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I was a fashion icon, even back then.

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ALL CHUCKLE

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-It's great to see you!

-Yes, and you.

-Can I have these?

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-Yes, you can take those.

-Thank you.

-They're for you.

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-Aw! I'll show my sister. Well, it's good to see you.

-And you.

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-What memories!

-ALL LAUGH

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Well, that was a blast from the past. And now over to James Lewis,

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who's found something even older than my childhood photos.

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Patricia, this is a really unusual thing

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because we've got a short umbrella, almost parasol-like,

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but the handle is carved with lovebirds

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and I've never seen a little handle like this.

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Carved with parrots, yes, but little lovebirds, I find really sweet.

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It's almost as if it was given as a love token

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from one person to another.

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-Anybody special in your life?

-Not in my life, no!

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I think probably it belonged to my grandmother.

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You're going to tell me where it came from cos I don't know.

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OK. I'll try. Yeah.

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I can see it's old and I think that's ivory, but otherwise I know nothing.

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It is. Now, the question is - is this a European umbrella

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in the Japanese style,

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or is it a Japanese ivory head on a European umbrella?

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Let's have a look.

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First thing to do... The terminals here are ivory.

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The piece at the section here...

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is bamboo.

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But there, look.

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Ben Cox.

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-Of London.

-Oh! I never noticed that.

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Right, so he's English. Um...

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So it's a Malacca shaft, with an ivory handle, a bamboo stem,

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ivory mounts, but made for a London retailer.

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So, it's a European thing with a Japanese ivory handle.

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Right.

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The birds have got glass eyes and it was carved in Japan,

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and in this period that we called the Meiji period.

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So, having said all that, good news and bad news.

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There are collectors for umbrellas,

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but there are far more collectors for walking sticks.

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-This one also has the tip off the head.

-Yes.

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So that's going to make a bit of a difference.

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In perfect condition, that's worth £100-£150.

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With the head off, and re-glued, 60-100.

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-That sounds...

-Is that all right?

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-..fun. Yes.

-Sure?

-Yes.

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-Well, it's doing nothing for me.

-Well, it's not raining outside!

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Over to Mark Stacey...

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-Jane, this is a heck of lump, isn't it?

-It certainly is.

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Tell me the history of it, please.

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I think my mother bought it from an auction house back in the '50s.

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I remember it a long, long time.

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She used to keep it in the cloakroom, full of umbrellas and walking sticks.

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-Wow! Well, it's big enough for that, isn't it?

-It is.

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-In the '50s, I suppose, this was considered out of fashion.

-Yes.

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People wanted the more modern designs, you know,

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the straight lines and things.

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But as soon as you see this type of pottery,

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with this very distinctive pink-y interior and these lovely

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subtle colours, there is only one factory you think of, really.

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-Yes.

-Poole Pottery.

-Absolutely.

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-Based in Dorset.

-Yes.

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It's beautifully decorated with these stylised flowers.

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-Such a lovely range of colours in there.

-It's a nice shape.

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It would take quite a lot to fire this. A big lump like this.

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If we have a look underneath...

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we've got a lovely set of marks there.

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We've got the marks for Carter, Stabler, Adams - Poole.

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-Which is the early mark, the 1920s-30s mark.

-Yes.

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So that fits in.

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They kept reducing these designs and sometimes you just see them

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-with "Poole Pottery," and they are slightly later.

-Later.

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But it's a really, really good piece.

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There's a little bit of damage, isn't there?

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-Yes, there is a slight chip.

-Which could easily be restored.

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Yes, that's always been there, I'm afraid.

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I think it really is a lovely object.

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-Why have you decided to sell it now?

-We've got six grandchildren now.

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And they love charging around.

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It was in the lounge and we have a new rescue dog as well,

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who plays with a ball.

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And I thought, "It's going to get smashed."

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It's such a shame if it got smashed beyond repair.

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You need the right space for it as well, don't you? Aesthetically.

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It's not going to be safe, I'm afraid.

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I must say, I must be honest with you, Jane, I think

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-a few years ago, this would have been worth a lot more money.

-I know.

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I think if it was absolutely perfect,

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-we would easily expect to get the £500 mark for it.

-Yes.

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I think we've got to take into account the small chip on it.

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-Yeah.

-And the fact that Poole isn't...

-It's not as popular.

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..quite as fashionable as it was.

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-I would probably suggest an estimate of £300-£500.

-Yes.

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-I'd be happy with that.

-And to put a reserve on it of 300.

-Yes.

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-So it protects you.

-No, that's fine.

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I really mean it, I love it and it's the most impressive

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-piece of Poole I've seen for quite a long time.

-Lovely, thank you.

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While everyone's busy here,

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I'm off to do something completely different.

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The Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew houses one of the most famous

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collections of plants in the world.

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And it attracts well over a million visitors each year.

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The curvaceous lines and perfect symmetry of Kew's Palm House,

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designed by architect Decimus Burton, has long been

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an instantly recognisable icon here at the gardens.

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And quite rightly so.

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But today I've come here to explore a much more modest building,

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one that I believe to be a hidden gem.

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And there it is, look, a Victorian pavilion.

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The Marianne North Gallery,

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tucked demurely away on the corner of the east side of the gardens.

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The question is, who was Marianne North?

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She was born in 1830 in Hastings,

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which is just a short distance from today's auction.

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Her parents were wealthy

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and she travelled abroad with her father, who was an MP.

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That wanderlust combined with the love of exotic plants,

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which she had seen here at Kew, would shape the rest of her life.

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At the age of 40 she began her astonishing trips around the world.

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She was very close to her father, and when he died in 1869,

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she decided to travel as a way of filling up her life

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and learning to live without him.

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And boy, did she globe-trot!

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Between the years of 1871 and 1885, she visited

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America, Canada, Jamaica, Brazil, Tenerife, Japan, Singapore,

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Sarawak, Java, Sri Lanka, India, Australia, New Zealand,

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South Africa, the Seychelles and Chile.

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Everywhere she went, she would paint.

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In total, she brought back 832 paintings.

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A snapshot of the world's flora and fauna in situ.

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She really was unlike most women of the Victorian era.

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She shunned marriage

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and travelled the world to follow her artistic passion.

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I can't wait to see inside now the restoration is complete.

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'I'm meeting up with author Laura Ponsonby,

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'who has written a biography about Marianne.

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'And we are going to take a closer look at her work.'

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-I'll get the door for you.

-Thank you very much.

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Come in. Come in and have a look.

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-Gosh!

-Isn't it amazing?

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It's very overwhelming. It's full of colour!

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-Have you ever seen anything like it before?

-No, I haven't. I have not.

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And I tell you something,

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my first feeling is there is not an inch of wall space.

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I think you are more or less right.

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And everybody who comes in, goes, "Wow! I never knew this was here."

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First thoughts when you actually focus on the artwork,

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they don't look like the sort of

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botanical, scientific paintings you would expect.

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-You know, the ones done in watercolour.

-Yes.

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-No, they are not that at all. You see, they are oils.

-And very rich.

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Oil on paper. And she absolutely adored colour.

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She started painting in oils when she was in her 30s.

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Before that time, she painted in watercolour.

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-Her basic thing was to show a plant in its habitat.

-It is in situ, yes.

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That's exactly how you'd expect to see it, isn't it, really?

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It's a snapshot. It's a little photograph.

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-Where is this? I think I've been there.

-Yes, you have.

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-That's in Sri Lanka.

-Yeah, I have been there.

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That's in the Kandy Botanic Garden.

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And this is, in fact, a jackfruit tree.

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And, like Kew, it's got a river going round it as well.

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Just look at the work! You can see the countries where she's been.

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Australia. You can see Jamaica, America.

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-She was an adventurous, tough woman.

-She was an adventurous, tough woman.

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But she spent months in some countries without servants,

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without any help.

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She did. In India, for instance, she spent nearly 15 months, I suppose.

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She had letters of introduction. She knew someone...

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Sure, and her father was well-connected.

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Yes, you are absolutely right. So she went all over the place.

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What does it tell you about her, really?

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That she was really determined?

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She was determined, she was very adventurous

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and wanted her own way, I think.

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-The sort of lady you'd love to meet, I bet.

-Yes, I would like to...

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I think she was amusing. She could be quite difficult sometimes,

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but a good sense of humour.

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And had known a lot of interesting people. Very determined.

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She showed that determination when she convinced

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the director of Kew to allow her to build this gallery in the grounds.

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Not only did she pay for it,

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but she took a year away from painting to arrange the pictures.

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It's probably a daft question, but do you have a favourite?

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Well, I mean, there is one

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in the little annexe at the back that I really like.

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-And it's interesting, too.

-OK.

-Yes.

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You know, it's not just scientific detail.

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As you walk past some of these images,

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you can see little river snakes and the eyes of crocodiles

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poking their heads above the surface of the water.

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Which you can easily miss, but they are there.

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Anyway, it's in here. It's just in the corner.

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This one.

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It's a plant which is called Northia. It actually named after Marianne.

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The first name, the genus name.

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She did it when she was in the Seychelles.

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-It's a lovely image, isn't it?

-Yes, it is nice.

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-You can see it's got a little bird in it.

-Yes, I've just spotted that.

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A couple of fruits. I think she brought that back...

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You have to look hard,

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cos some of these little animals are camouflaged.

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Yes, she hides them away. It's quite interesting, isn't it?

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Suddenly you see a monkey or a bird, or something of that nature.

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How would you sum up Marianne's legacy?

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I think it's unique, really. I don't think there is anybody else

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who has done anything quite like that.

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And of course, it's so interesting where she has been

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and all her experiences, and I think people enjoy that,

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looking at the places perhaps they've been to on holiday

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and they come and see what Marianne painted.

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-It's very interesting.

-I think so. It's most fascinating.

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I think this place is well worth a visit.

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I'm going to come and spend a few more hours in here.

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-Yes, you certainly could.

-Thank you so much for showing me around...

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-Not at all.

-..and being my guide today.

-Good.

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'Marianne often ventured to places

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'that were virtually unknown to Europeans.

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'And some of her paintings showed plants that were new to science,

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'helping to advance our knowledge of the natural world.

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'But the years of exhausting travel took their toll,

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'and she retired to Gloucestershire, still surrounded by flowers.

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'She died there in 1890,

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'a long way from the exotic locations that she loved.'

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Marianne North, the intrepid traveller, has provided us

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with an exquisite Victorian set piece,

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tucked away in this corner of Kew Gardens.

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And inside, the most extraordinary collection of botanical paintings.

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Although not classical, they are all the richer for it.

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I think we can safely say Marianne North and her gallery

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are definitely one-offs.

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And now a quick reminder of what's going off to auction.

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We've got the walnut and brass tea caddy, brought along by Karen.

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There's the Majolica bowls that Mark fell in love with.

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There's that huge ceramic vase.

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And we also have

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the ivory-handled umbrella.

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Today's sale, we've left Surrey and travelled a few miles south,

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to Washington in West Sussex, courtesy of Toovey's auction room.

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Now, down there is an eager crowd, waiting for our lots to go

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under the hammer, so let's get on with it and not disappoint them.

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And the man in charge of today's proceedings is Rupert Toovey.

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Going under the hammer right now, another "Flog It!" favourite -

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a bit of Poole Pottery.

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I remember my days when I went down to the factory

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down in Dorset, before they closed down.

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They are now open in Stoke-on-Trent, so they're still in business,

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-but this is from the 1920s, Jane.

-Yes.

-A really nice piece.

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I think it was painted by a lady called Anne Hatchard as well.

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-Oh, right. I didn't know that.

-Yes!

-Lovely colours.

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Right, let's put this to the test.

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Carter, Stabler, Adams - Poole Pottery vase.

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1920s. Painted by Anne Hatchard,

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and monogrammed with a Truda Carter patterned YT.

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It's a wonderful thing. Little chip to the foot, but lovely.

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Opening the bidding here at £220. 220 here. Can I see the 250?

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£220 here. 250? At £220. 250 can I see?

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£220. 250. 280. 300.

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300 now with the phone. At £300. Beating the book. At £300.

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At £300. Can I see 320?

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At £300. 320 can I see? £300. On the phone at £300.

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We are selling at £300.

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-Fair warning.

-BANGS GAVEL

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That gavel's just gone down. £300.

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-Jane, it's gone. You've said goodbye.

-Absolutely.

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-You don't have to take it home.

-No. That's good.

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-Yeah. Are you happy with that?

-Yes, I'm happy with that.

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'Yet again, Mark's valuation was right on the money.'

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Coming up now, we've got a Victorian dome-lidded tea caddy,

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belonging to Karen. I've known her a long time as well, haven't I?

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-Well, I haven't seen you for... possibly about 40-odd years!

-Yeah, that's right. Showing our age!

-Yes.

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You clobbered me back at Guildford Cathedral with a little photograph.

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We used to know each other when we were kids. Next-door neighbours.

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-Oh, my goodness!

-How amazing is that?

-I know.

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Right, let's talk about your walnut dome-lidded tea caddy.

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I like it because it's got that lovely gothic revival taste to it

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and I'm big on that, I love that.

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-But I agree with the valuation, James.

-Good.

-Right.

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Let's get on with selling antiques, shall we? Here we are. It's going under the hammer now.

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A late-Victorian burr walnut dome tea caddy with Gothic revival,

0:24:070:24:10

applied brass strap-work mounts. It's a lovely thing.

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What shall we say for this lot? Shall we say £100? 50, then, please.

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50, I'm bid. Can I see the five?

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At £50, can I see the 55?

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55. And 60 and five.

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At £60 now. At £60 and five? With you, madam.

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At £65, and thank you.

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At £65 now in the room. It's against you all. At 65.

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And 70 now with Glen.

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And 75. He makes us jump, doesn't he? 75 and 80.

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-Yes, sir.

-And five. And 90.

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90 and five. 100?

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-No, sir.

-95, it is, with the lady. At £95. Against you, Glen.

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That's right, isn't it? 95, all done. 95!

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-Sold at 95. We're happy with that.

-Very pleased.

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-Very pleased with that.

-Good.

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Would have liked three figures,

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but hey, we always want more than what we normally get, don't we?

0:25:030:25:05

No, that's brilliant.

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So, Karen's going home, happy, with one less tea caddy,

0:25:070:25:10

but a few extra quid.

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Next up, it's the pair of bowls.

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Going under the hammer right now,

0:25:140:25:16

one of the great names in ceramics, Minton Majolica.

0:25:160:25:18

We've got two dishes belonging to Jane and Mike and it's great to see you both.

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-I've got to say, you look very stylish.

-Thank you very much.

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-Equally as stylish as the little dishes.

-I love them.

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I know there's a few nibbles here,

0:25:290:25:30

-but Majolica collectors will live with that.

-OK, let's find out.

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They're going under the hammer right now. Good luck, both of you.

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A pair of Minton Majolica dishes, circa 1869 and 1870, of oval shape.

0:25:390:25:44

And we're opening the bidding here at £180. 180. Can I see the 190?

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£180 and 190.

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200. 220.

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£200 here on commission.

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-At £200, can I see the 220?

-Yes, sir.

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At 220 now online. 220 now online. Can I see the 240?

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£220. With you, Glen.

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-Any more out there?

-No, sir.

0:26:030:26:05

-220 it is, with you.

-220.

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At £220 and selling. 220.

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-220, at the lower end.

-I suppose it's the market.

-Just got them away.

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-Yes, good.

-Was that OK?

0:26:150:26:16

-Yes, of course it is.

-They've gone.

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So, Mark was within estimate,

0:26:180:26:20

but we've got another bird-themed item now.

0:26:200:26:23

It's that ivory-handled umbrella.

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Remember, there are restrictions on selling ivory,

0:26:250:26:27

but this item is fine because it was made before 1947.

0:26:270:26:32

It's absolutely stunning, isn't it? Made by Ben Cox of London.

0:26:320:26:35

-Apparently.

-Quality, quality, quality.

0:26:350:26:37

-And, James, this should do well.

-It should.

0:26:370:26:40

It's got a bit of damage, which is why I've put it down at 60-100.

0:26:400:26:43

Yes, cheeky little valuation. Why are you selling this?

0:26:430:26:46

I did have it in the hall,

0:26:460:26:47

but it was gathering dust and doing nothing.

0:26:470:26:49

-You thought, "Let's sell it."

-Yeah.

0:26:490:26:51

Bring it along to "Flog It!" and see what we can do.

0:26:510:26:53

Well, let's hope we get that top end.

0:26:530:26:55

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:26:550:26:57

An early 20th century ivory and Malacca handled umbrella.

0:26:570:27:01

And...a multitude of conflicting bids on this lovely thing.

0:27:010:27:04

And we're opening at £110.

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-Oh!

-120. 130. 140.

0:27:060:27:10

150. 160.

0:27:100:27:11

-Now in the room at 160.

-£160.

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-£160. Are we all done?

-Wonderful.

0:27:130:27:17

170. 180.

0:27:170:27:18

-190.

-Yes, sir.

0:27:180:27:20

200.

0:27:200:27:21

-220.

-Yes, sir.

0:27:210:27:23

220, I have. And 240, can I say?

0:27:230:27:25

And 260?

0:27:250:27:27

-Are you sure?

-Yeah, £260.

0:27:270:27:29

-Wow!

-260 now on the net. And 280, can I see?

0:27:290:27:31

280, I have. And 300 now?

0:27:310:27:33

-Yes, sir.

-300, I have. And 320.

0:27:340:27:37

Yeah? 320, I have.

0:27:370:27:38

-And 340.

-Yes, sir.

0:27:380:27:40

And 360.

0:27:400:27:42

Thank you, sir. 340, Glen, with you on the net.

0:27:420:27:44

-At £340. £340 online.

-£340!

0:27:440:27:49

£340.

0:27:490:27:51

-And the hammer's going down. Yes!

-That is a fantastic result.

0:27:510:27:55

Two people obviously wanted that, the collectors are out in force!

0:27:550:27:58

-Wow!

-So, reactions?

0:27:580:28:00

Ooh, I'll have a sit down! That's amazing!

0:28:000:28:02

Well done to Rupert, though.

0:28:020:28:04

-On the rostrum, delivering the goods for us.

-Yeah, brilliant.

0:28:040:28:06

Great auctioneering.

0:28:060:28:08

Well, that just goes to show you can never tell what's going to

0:28:080:28:11

happen at auction when they catch the bidders' attention.

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There you are. That's the end of our first visit to the auction today.

0:28:150:28:18

Fast and furious. We are coming back here later on in the programme. Don't go away.

0:28:180:28:22

Now, music has played a very important part in the history of our religion over the years.

0:28:220:28:27

Two instruments in particular, associated with the Church.

0:28:270:28:30

I went back to Guildford Cathedral to find out more.

0:28:300:28:33

Take a look at this.

0:28:330:28:35

CHORAL SINGING

0:28:380:28:41

When you think of music in the church,

0:28:430:28:45

this is probably the first thing that springs to mind -

0:28:450:28:48

the calm and soothing sound of a choir.

0:28:480:28:50

I'm going to be having a go at something a little bit louder,

0:28:510:28:54

assuming I've got the energy after climbing all these stairs.

0:28:540:28:58

BELLS RING

0:29:000:29:02

The history of bell ringing in churches can trace its roots back

0:29:040:29:07

to around 400 AD when the Bishop of Campania, in Italy, introduced it.

0:29:070:29:14

The art of bell ringing, or campanology,

0:29:140:29:16

takes its name from that region and is still used 1,600 years later.

0:29:160:29:21

I'm here to meet some modern-day campanologists.

0:29:210:29:24

Finally at the top!

0:29:240:29:27

And these are some of the bell ringers here at the cathedral.

0:29:270:29:30

We've got Justina, Maurice, David and Chris.

0:29:300:29:33

I can't wait to have a go myself.

0:29:330:29:35

I'm a complete novice, but hopefully, I can join in with you.

0:29:350:29:39

-David, can you show me a few things?

-Yes, come along here and we'll have a look.

0:29:390:29:42

-Do I need to take my coat off?

-Yes, take your coat off, please.

-OK.

0:29:420:29:45

'It takes a lot of practice to become an expert bell ringer,

0:29:450:29:48

'which is why I'm being closely supervised.

0:29:480:29:50

'If I get it wrong, I could damage the bells.'

0:29:500:29:53

So, if you'd like to take that rope, with your right hand on the bottom, left hand on the top...

0:29:550:29:59

Put your arms out straight, don't bend your body.

0:29:590:30:02

Now, we're going to pull the bell off.

0:30:020:30:04

The rope will go up to the roof, you're going to go up with it,

0:30:040:30:08

keep your arms straight, and then pull your arm straight down again.

0:30:080:30:12

-OK. You're not going to let go.

-No, I'm not going to let go.

0:30:120:30:16

I'm going to go up with you.

0:30:160:30:17

Look straight and look forward, straightforward.

0:30:170:30:20

-OK, here we go.

-Yes.

0:30:200:30:21

BELL RINGS

0:30:230:30:26

Right, OK. I can see it... I can feel the weight of the bell now.

0:30:280:30:32

-Oh, I didn't go right up there, did I?

-No.

0:30:330:30:35

Oh, it's not for the faint-hearted, is it?

0:30:350:30:38

That's for sure! Great form of exercise.

0:30:380:30:40

And what's the weight of the bell up there? Is that a big one?

0:30:430:30:45

-That would be five or six... Six or seven hundredweight, I think.

-OK.

0:30:450:30:49

Do you know what? It's starting to feel good now.

0:30:490:30:51

It's feeling really good and I'm sure after an hour,

0:30:510:30:55

you could let go of that...

0:30:550:30:56

We are not going to chance it right now. Thank you very much.

0:30:560:30:59

-I did enjoy that.

-OK. Good.

-It makes you feel good as well, doesn't it?

0:30:590:31:02

-It's good for your stomach muscles.

-Absolutely.

0:31:020:31:04

Good for the brain, good for the stomach.

0:31:040:31:06

Well, I'll let you all carry on.

0:31:060:31:08

I'm going to leave you now, but can you play me out as I walk out?

0:31:080:31:11

Thank you. Thank you. And cheerio.

0:31:110:31:13

Look two, trebles going. She's gone.

0:31:170:31:21

BELLS PEAL

0:31:210:31:22

And it's not just music that bells have been used for.

0:31:220:31:25

They were initially used as a call to prayer,

0:31:250:31:28

but they've also been rung to warn of impending invasions

0:31:280:31:31

by foreign armies and pass messages from village to village.

0:31:310:31:36

Well, ding-dong!

0:31:360:31:37

That was brilliant fun and now for something a little more soothing.

0:31:370:31:42

Bells may be a great way to make a loud noise,

0:31:420:31:45

but they're not good to sing hymns to,

0:31:450:31:47

but that's exactly what this next instrument was designed for.

0:31:470:31:51

It's believed this organ was originally built around 1866

0:31:510:31:56

and spent the early part of its history at a church in Yorkshire.

0:31:560:31:59

It was moved here and installed before the cathedral opened in 1961.

0:31:590:32:05

Katherine Deanish Williams is the organist

0:32:050:32:08

and master of choristers, here at the cathedral.

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Why are organs so synonymous with cathedrals and churches?

0:32:120:32:16

Well, effectively because they make a lot of noise.

0:32:160:32:19

-Any other instrument would get lost, wouldn't it?

-It really would.

0:32:190:32:22

Although we do have bagpipes here once a year.

0:32:220:32:25

One of the schools comes and brings a piper so that could be similar.

0:32:250:32:28

-But same principle.

-Same principle. Where do you start to learn?

0:32:280:32:31

Obviously, on the keyboards, on a piano.

0:32:310:32:33

-You've got to learn to play the piano.

-That's right.

0:32:330:32:35

You've got to have a fundamental level of keyboard skill,

0:32:350:32:38

really, to start, and then the worst thing

0:32:380:32:41

when you start is kind of your left hand and feet coordination.

0:32:410:32:45

-It just feels odd, you know? You feel slightly one-sided.

-Sure.

0:32:450:32:48

-A bit tipsy, almost.

-Yeah.

0:32:480:32:49

Then, you know, you've got to find your balance and it works.

0:32:490:32:53

It's very sort of centralising somehow.

0:32:530:32:55

So the hands are playing exactly what you would play

0:32:550:32:58

on a standard piano or keyboard

0:32:580:33:01

and the feet are enhancing something with more of a swelling noise, or...

0:33:010:33:05

Slightly different to that actually, Paul, because what you've got

0:33:050:33:08

down here, with your feet, you've got a complete keyboard in itself.

0:33:080:33:11

So you could play with just your feet only?

0:33:110:33:13

You can play with just your feet. Exactly so.

0:33:130:33:16

But, I mean, in order to play anything

0:33:160:33:19

you've got to draw a stop to make a sound.

0:33:190:33:21

So if I was to play some... one of these keys right now,

0:33:210:33:23

you can't hear anything.

0:33:230:33:26

So, in order to hear something, you have to draw a stop somewhere.

0:33:260:33:29

So if I put down one chord at what we would call normal pitch,

0:33:290:33:32

and I can add an octave above it, eight notes higher,

0:33:320:33:36

and more pipes are sounding...

0:33:360:33:38

Two octaves above it, higher still. I'm still playing three notes,

0:33:380:33:41

-but there's far more than three notes sounding.

-Yeah. Wow!

0:33:410:33:44

And the way the instrument has developed is very much in line

0:33:440:33:47

with the expansion of the orchestra.

0:33:470:33:49

How long did it take you to learn to pull out the right stops?

0:33:490:33:51

I mean, there are so many buttons...

0:33:510:33:53

The complicated thing is, every single instrument is different.

0:33:530:33:57

So what's over here on one instrument

0:33:570:33:59

might be over here on another instrument.

0:33:590:34:01

-So there's no standard organ?

-There's no standard organ.

0:34:010:34:04

And that's part of the challenge as a player

0:34:040:34:07

is to familiarise yourself with the instrument.

0:34:070:34:10

What connects these keyboards to the pipes over there?

0:34:100:34:14

Lots and lots of cabling.

0:34:140:34:16

So under the chancel floor, just beneath us,

0:34:160:34:19

-there's 30 miles of wiring in total.

-Wow!

0:34:190:34:23

You have pipes which are sitting on top of a wind chest

0:34:230:34:26

and when a palette is removed, the air goes through and the pipe sounds.

0:34:260:34:29

Times that by the fact that we've got, here, 4,398 pipes.

0:34:290:34:35

-A lot.

-So it's a massive piece of equipment.

0:34:350:34:38

Well, we've heard how highly complex this is and I can see it is.

0:34:380:34:42

Can I actually see what it can do

0:34:420:34:44

in the hands of a great professional like you?

0:34:440:34:46

-Go on, pull out all the stops.

-Right.

-Give it something!

0:34:460:34:49

-All the stops!

-Yeah.

-OK. Here we go. This is Widor's Toccata.

0:34:490:34:52

Quite a famous piece.

0:34:520:34:54

MUSIC: "Toccata" by Charles-Marie Widor

0:34:540:34:57

-So there's a lot of sound going on.

-Mm.

0:35:020:35:05

-And so on, and so on.

-That's fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.

0:35:150:35:18

-Thank you so much.

-You're welcome.

0:35:180:35:20

-It's really moving, isn't it, when you hear it played properly?

-It is.

0:35:200:35:24

-It is. Why don't you have a try?

-Oh, no!

0:35:240:35:26

HE LAUGHS If you're sure...

0:35:260:35:28

-Maybe when the cameras have gone.

-OK. You're welcome.

0:35:280:35:31

Music plays a huge part in religious worship in most faiths.

0:35:340:35:38

In fact, it's the main way that people have been introduced

0:35:380:35:41

to music throughout history.

0:35:410:35:43

Some of the tunes we hear today remain unchanged

0:35:450:35:48

since they were composed centuries ago.

0:35:480:35:50

It's a great way of keeping history alive

0:35:500:35:52

and a real connection to the past.

0:35:520:35:54

And that connection to the past is well and truly alive

0:36:040:36:07

at our valuation day, where the Guildford Cathedral Choir

0:36:070:36:10

are rehearsing for their next big performance.

0:36:100:36:14

# ..plenteous land

0:36:140:36:15

# Our fathers were oppressed

0:36:150:36:22

# But God Whose chosen folk they were

0:36:220:36:28

# Smote those who long enslaved them there

0:36:280:36:36

# And all their woes redressed

0:36:360:36:43

# And all their woes redressed. #

0:36:430:36:51

Well, from vocals to valuables now.

0:37:010:37:04

We need to find some more antiques and collectables

0:37:040:37:06

to take off to auction, and the best people to do that

0:37:060:37:09

are our team of experts.

0:37:090:37:10

So let's catch up with them.

0:37:100:37:12

-Kevin, Kevin.

-Mark.

-Where on earth did you get this thing from?

0:37:160:37:20

I found this in the back of my garage when I was cleaning out

0:37:200:37:23

after first moving in and it was under a layer of dust.

0:37:230:37:26

-Pulled this out, wiped it off...

-This is what you got?

0:37:260:37:30

-Yeah, it's lovely.

-I mean, it is the most...ridiculous item.

0:37:300:37:34

We've looked at it and there are several possibilities.

0:37:340:37:39

-It's obviously not English.

-No.

0:37:390:37:42

I think it's something tribal, but it's got this lovely,

0:37:420:37:45

-painted decoration on it, hasn't it?

-Beautiful.

0:37:450:37:48

Now, there are some marks on the top

0:37:480:37:50

-and the bottom, which might imply it was some sort of bow.

-Oh, I see.

0:37:500:37:54

I don't know how flexible it is.

0:37:540:37:56

There is a bit of movement, but I don't think it is.

0:37:560:37:59

The other thing is it might be just a decorative staff

0:37:590:38:03

to show your authority or whatever.

0:38:030:38:04

-Ceremonial maybe.

-A ceremonial thing.

0:38:040:38:07

-But I adore it because I love the decoration.

-Yes, lovely.

-You know.

0:38:070:38:12

Erm...and I think it's got a bit of age to it.

0:38:120:38:15

-I think it's certainly 19th century.

-Right.

0:38:150:38:19

If not a tad earlier.

0:38:190:38:21

But where it's come from, to be honest with you,

0:38:210:38:24

-or exactly how old it is, I'm really not sure...

-No.

0:38:240:38:27

..if I'm being frank with you.

0:38:270:38:29

I just think it's a very appealing object.

0:38:290:38:32

-Yeah.

-It's different.

0:38:320:38:33

-In salerooms, people like seeing interesting objects.

-Yeah.

0:38:330:38:38

And there will be people out there who will know what it is

0:38:380:38:41

and think, "I must have this."

0:38:410:38:43

But even from a sort of interior designer's point of view,

0:38:430:38:46

it's just a great thing to have propped up, mounted up on the wall.

0:38:460:38:50

This is where I had it, in the entrance hall, originally.

0:38:500:38:53

-And you got it for nothing, really.

-That's right, yeah.

0:38:530:38:55

-It was just in your garage of a house you bought.

-It's lovely.

0:38:550:38:58

-What do you think it's worth?

-A couple of million?

0:38:580:39:02

-A couple of million?

-Yeah, I would be happy with that.

0:39:020:39:04

Well, if we were talking sort of Turkish lira,

0:39:040:39:07

then we would probably be on,

0:39:070:39:08

-cos a couple of million Turkish lira is about a fiver.

-Yeah.

0:39:080:39:11

But I think we've just got to have a stab at it, if you excuse the pun.

0:39:110:39:15

Lovely. That's no problem.

0:39:150:39:17

Um...

0:39:170:39:18

-HE SIGHS

-100-150...

0:39:200:39:22

-Yeah, fine.

-You are happy with that, Kevin?

-I am indeed, yes.

0:39:220:39:25

I'm glad because you threatened to pierce me with it

0:39:250:39:28

-if it wasn't the right estimate.

-That's right.

0:39:280:39:30

-So we are both happy.

-Yes, we are.

0:39:300:39:32

-Fantastic.

-Lovely.

0:39:320:39:33

-We can hope.

-Yes, sir. Thank you.

0:39:330:39:36

From one unusual item to another, now.

0:39:360:39:38

-Over to James Lewis and THAT picture.

-Elaine.

0:39:380:39:42

Yes. THEY LAUGH

0:39:430:39:45

I am just about lost for words.

0:39:450:39:48

I look at this and I think it reminds me

0:39:490:39:54

of a sketch that I have with a magnet stuck to my fridge

0:39:540:39:59

that my four-year-old did a couple of weeks ago.

0:39:590:40:02

And I look at it again and go, "No".

0:40:020:40:05

It hasn't got the same talent as that.

0:40:050:40:08

But then, my director says, "He's fabulous! He's wonderful!

0:40:080:40:14

"You're underestimating this."

0:40:140:40:16

Apparently, he's big.

0:40:160:40:19

-Apparently so.

-David...

0:40:190:40:20

-Strigley.

-Strigley.

0:40:200:40:22

-AUDIENCE MEMBER:

-Shrigley!

-Shrigley.

0:40:220:40:24

See? We don't even know who he is!

0:40:240:40:27

But all I know is he can't even count!

0:40:270:40:30

He's put "DS 20001".

0:40:300:40:35

-Yes.

-Well, he really is futuristic cos that's 20,001!

0:40:350:40:39

It is. THEY LAUGH

0:40:390:40:42

I mean, he really... I mean, he is a big name. He's up with Damien Hirst.

0:40:420:40:46

I do take the mickey a bit,

0:40:460:40:49

but when you see things like this

0:40:490:40:50

that actually are quite important, because it's his hand,

0:40:500:40:55

and the artist's hand is important in so many ways...

0:40:550:40:59

and if you're going to collect paintings by an artist,

0:40:590:41:03

to actually have something like that is a good thing to own.

0:41:030:41:06

-Yes.

-Tell me about it. How did it come to be in your hands?

0:41:060:41:10

-Well, in actual fact, it belongs to my daughter.

-Right.

0:41:100:41:13

-And she has trained as an art teacher...

-OK.

0:41:130:41:16

And she did her training up at Sheffield Hallam.

0:41:160:41:19

-And he was there for one of the lectures.

-Yeah.

0:41:190:41:23

And she had a chance to speak to him afterwards

0:41:230:41:27

and she just said to him, she said, "Would you draw something for me?"

0:41:270:41:31

And he said, "Yes". And all she'd got was this little scrap of paper.

0:41:310:41:35

So he put his hand down, drew around it and that's what you've got.

0:41:360:41:41

-Smart. Smart to ask him to do it.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:41:420:41:46

-The flesh and the interior. Did he write that on there?

-Yes.

0:41:460:41:50

-Yeah.

-How interesting. I wonder what that means.

0:41:500:41:54

He's very much an artist that's obsessed with line, isn't he?

0:41:540:41:57

You look at his cartoons and his sketches,

0:41:570:42:01

it's very little shading, very little three-dimension.

0:42:010:42:06

-It's all about a flat, cartoon-type drawing.

-Yes.

0:42:060:42:10

And that's very much in his style. OK.

0:42:100:42:14

I mean, this guy has got works in very important collections

0:42:160:42:20

-all over the world.

-Mm-hmm.

0:42:200:42:23

Erm...

0:42:230:42:24

It's so difficult though,

0:42:250:42:27

because it is just a very silly sketch of a hand!

0:42:270:42:30

Let's say £300-£500.

0:42:320:42:35

-Now you're surprised!

-HE LAUGHS

0:42:370:42:40

-OK!

-Because, you know, we laugh at it,

0:42:400:42:44

I laugh at it and, in a way, it's very naughty

0:42:440:42:48

because art only has to be a few people that appreciate it.

0:42:480:42:52

-Of course it does.

-And Turner, way back in the 1820s, wasn't respected.

0:42:520:42:58

-No.

-Manet, Monet, they were laughed at.

0:42:580:43:01

But it is a crazy thing.

0:43:010:43:04

It's the worst thing I've ever seen on "Flog It!",

0:43:040:43:06

thank you so much for bringing it in!

0:43:060:43:08

BOTH LAUGH Thank you!

0:43:080:43:11

Mark. Nice to meet you.

0:43:170:43:19

Nice to meet you too.

0:43:190:43:20

And you've brought something in I've been dying to do for ages,

0:43:200:43:23

-a piece of Lalique.

-Yes, indeed.

0:43:230:43:24

-Where did you get it from?

-I bought it at a car-boot sale.

0:43:240:43:27

-No! Don't tell me... You paid nothing for it.

-£5.

0:43:270:43:31

-£5?!

-£5.

0:43:310:43:33

Did you know what it was the minute you saw it?

0:43:330:43:36

I had an indication as to the colour of the glass, etc,

0:43:360:43:41

because naturally, it wasn't until I picked it up,

0:43:410:43:43

looked underneath and I nearly fell over...

0:43:430:43:48

-And you couldn't get...

-Tried not to drop it!

0:43:480:43:50

-You couldn't get the fiver out quick enough!

-Exactly.

0:43:500:43:52

-I don't blame you, Mark!

-And I didn't even bid them down.

0:43:520:43:55

I should hope not at £5!

0:43:550:43:57

I mean, it is... As soon as you see it, you know that it's OK.

0:43:570:44:00

From a Lalique point of view, it's not the most exciting vase.

0:44:000:44:04

It's not full of naked women or interesting fish, or animals,

0:44:040:44:09

but it's interesting to me for two reasons.

0:44:090:44:12

It's very Art Deco. Of course, that slightly conical form.

0:44:120:44:17

You've got the etched leaves decoration going around it

0:44:170:44:20

-and then it's been sepia stained in that sort of brown colour.

-I see.

0:44:200:44:25

And it's opalescent as well.

0:44:250:44:27

And actually, when you see it under the light like this,

0:44:270:44:30

you see that lovely combination,

0:44:300:44:32

-that milky opalescence with the brown.

-Yes.

0:44:320:44:36

Date-wise, I suppose what we are looking at is sort of 1925,

0:44:360:44:39

-1930, that sort of period.

-I didn't realise it was as early as that.

0:44:390:44:43

I think it's quite a nice early piece, actually.

0:44:430:44:46

It's fully signed underneath, of course, R Lalique.

0:44:460:44:49

When we turn it upside down, you have to look in the light,

0:44:490:44:53

-but you can see R Lalique in a stencil mark.

-Right.

0:44:530:44:57

But I love Lalique. I've got several pieces at home,

0:44:570:45:00

-I'm pleased to say.

-Oh, right. Right.

0:45:000:45:01

And it's all in very, very good condition.

0:45:030:45:05

I think it's really wonderful, actually.

0:45:050:45:08

It's a nice, fresh piece as well.

0:45:080:45:10

Lots of collectors and dealers,

0:45:100:45:12

of course, are looking for Lalique vases.

0:45:120:45:14

They're a good thing to collect because they're decorative.

0:45:140:45:17

Some of the shallow bowls or plates are not as easy

0:45:170:45:21

to display as a vase.

0:45:210:45:23

What's your fiver worth at auction, do you think?

0:45:230:45:26

I would... One would hope three figures, but I just don't know.

0:45:270:45:32

Oh, so, £5.99?

0:45:320:45:35

-HE LAUGHS

-That's three figures. No...

0:45:350:45:37

No, would one move the point, please?

0:45:370:45:40

Well, we'd like to. I think we've got to be realistic.

0:45:400:45:43

It is a lovely piece, but, you know, some of the vases can make

0:45:430:45:46

many thousands of pounds for the bigger examples in bright,

0:45:460:45:51

vivid colours.

0:45:510:45:52

I mean, I think I would be happy

0:45:520:45:54

-putting something like 300 to 400 on it.

-My goodness!

0:45:540:45:58

I think that should be achievable, actually.

0:45:580:46:01

The thing is, you don't want to give it away.

0:46:010:46:03

You don't want it to sell too cheaply.

0:46:030:46:05

-We'd have to put a reserve on it.

-I would like a reserve if possible.

0:46:050:46:08

-And I would put the reserve, say, at 280.

-Would that be a fixed reserve?

0:46:080:46:12

-A fixed reserve for 280.

-That's amazing!

-If you're happy with that,

0:46:120:46:16

-I'm really looking forward to the auction.

-That would be brilliant.

0:46:160:46:19

Thank you very much indeed.

0:46:190:46:20

Time to see what other treasures are waiting to be found.

0:46:200:46:23

Back to James Lewis.

0:46:230:46:25

Lisa and Marion, let me take you back to the mid-19th century,

0:46:250:46:29

before the days of TV, before even "Flog It!" had started.

0:46:290:46:33

No radio, where the only music

0:46:330:46:38

that you could actually entertain yourself with,

0:46:380:46:40

unless someone was playing the piano or a violin,

0:46:400:46:42

was something like this.

0:46:420:46:45

Mechanical music started really in the late 18th century.

0:46:450:46:49

By the 19th century it was in full flight.

0:46:490:46:51

The best musical boxes are made in Switzerland.

0:46:510:46:54

-And this one is actually a Swiss one.

-Ooh!

0:46:540:46:57

But having said the best were made in Switzerland,

0:46:570:47:00

almost all of them were made in Switzerland.

0:47:000:47:02

Also the also-rans as well.

0:47:020:47:05

Swiss family or something that has been imported locally?

0:47:050:47:08

No, it's a family heirloom.

0:47:080:47:11

-It was my great-great uncle's.

-OK. Was this on your side of the family?

0:47:110:47:16

Yes, it was on my father's side of the family.

0:47:160:47:18

OK, let's look outside first...

0:47:180:47:21

The panel in the top here is, I think, papier-mache.

0:47:210:47:28

It's quite difficult to tell without seeing the reverse side of it.

0:47:280:47:32

And it's, of course, set into wood.

0:47:320:47:34

The majority of these musical boxes are ebony in border,

0:47:340:47:38

normally have a rosewood panel in the centre,

0:47:380:47:40

with a little arrangement of musical instruments in the middle.

0:47:400:47:45

I've never seen one with a mother-of-pearl inlaid

0:47:450:47:49

lacquer panel before.

0:47:490:47:51

But if we look at the little figures there, they are Chinese men.

0:47:510:47:54

Stereotypical Chinamen.

0:47:540:47:56

But very strangely, in an English or European landscape.

0:47:560:48:01

Already we've got a complete mix of styles.

0:48:010:48:04

Let's open it up.

0:48:040:48:06

There we are.

0:48:070:48:09

We've got the airs here. Ten airs. Ten musical tunes...

0:48:090:48:15

Whenever you are looking at a musical box,

0:48:150:48:18

the more tunes, the better. And ten is quite a good number.

0:48:180:48:20

Then you also look at how complicated it is.

0:48:200:48:23

Does it play on bells, on drums, on cymbals?

0:48:230:48:26

This one has bells, playing on three bells.

0:48:260:48:29

No drums. But a short cylinder.

0:48:290:48:32

The shorter cylinders are normally the cheaper boxes.

0:48:320:48:35

And if we open it up...

0:48:350:48:36

We can see a steel comb here.

0:48:380:48:40

And that steel comb, it's important that it is in good condition

0:48:400:48:44

because every little steel tooth that is damaged

0:48:440:48:48

is about £15-£20 to repair. So it soon starts to add up. There we go.

0:48:480:48:53

It's not a bad quality box. But it's not great. Do you play it regularly?

0:48:530:48:58

-Not regularly, no.

-Not regularly.

0:48:580:49:00

We go through stages where we get it out and want to listen to it again.

0:49:000:49:04

Then it goes back for safekeeping.

0:49:040:49:07

When it first came, we were fascinated by it.

0:49:070:49:09

And it was in very poor condition. My dad spent ages cleaning it.

0:49:090:49:13

I don't think we could even tell that the butterflies were coloured.

0:49:130:49:16

Oh, really?!

0:49:160:49:17

-And he painstakingly cleaned it all up for us.

-He's done a great job.

0:49:170:49:22

Really good job. OK. It will end up going to a collector, I'm sure.

0:49:220:49:26

-I hope so.

-Good.

-Value, I should think it's going to make £200-£300.

0:49:260:49:32

Something like that.

0:49:320:49:34

It's in working order, I presume, is it?

0:49:340:49:36

-BOTH: Yes!

-Are you happy to let it go?

0:49:360:49:39

Because once this starts, you've got no choice. Here we go then.

0:49:390:49:42

MUSIC PLAYS

0:49:440:49:48

Well, that's it.

0:49:580:49:59

Our experts have now found their final items to take off to auction,

0:49:590:50:02

so it's time to say goodbye to Guildford Cathedral,

0:50:020:50:05

our magnificent host location today.

0:50:050:50:07

As we head off to the saleroom, here's a quick recap just to

0:50:070:50:10

jog your memory of all the items we're taking with us.

0:50:100:50:13

There's that staff or bow which fascinated Mark.

0:50:140:50:18

And let's hope the music box hits the high notes in the auction room.

0:50:200:50:24

Will the bidders appreciate this piece of art by David Shrigley?

0:50:250:50:29

And there's that "Flog It!" favourite -

0:50:300:50:32

a piece of Lalique glassware.

0:50:320:50:35

We're heading back to Washington in West Sussex,

0:50:370:50:40

where today's sale is taking place.

0:50:400:50:42

Before the auction started, I had a chat with auctioneer

0:50:420:50:44

Rupert Toovey and we took a closer look at that piece of artwork.

0:50:440:50:49

-Isn't it an extraordinary thing?

-It is. What do you think of it?

0:50:490:50:53

I think it's rather marvellous but there's a great deal

0:50:530:50:55

of that sort of post-modern irony going on here, isn't there?

0:50:550:50:57

Eileen brought this in and it was her daughter's.

0:50:570:51:00

He attended the lecture and drew around his hand,

0:51:000:51:02

-which I think is absolutely wonderful.

-Wow! Wow!

0:51:020:51:05

That's very intimate, isn't it?

0:51:050:51:06

If that was my hand, I would be keeping this.

0:51:060:51:08

But we're only custodians of these things, aren't we?

0:51:080:51:10

Although I'd like to be a custodian for at least 40 or 50 years

0:51:100:51:13

of something like this, not just 15 or 12 years, or something.

0:51:130:51:17

-We've got £300-£500 on this.

-I think 300 to 500 is about right.

0:51:170:51:21

Because it's not exactly what the artist is well known for.

0:51:210:51:24

-No, it's more the cartoon work.

-Very ironic, modern humour, isn't it?

0:51:240:51:29

But how wonderful to see how work develops...

0:51:290:51:32

-So important for that reason, don't you think?

-I think so, yes.

0:51:320:51:34

And I'm with you. I think 300 to 500 is spot-on.

0:51:340:51:37

I'd like to see it at the top end, but I...

0:51:370:51:40

-I think it might be nearer the lower end, actually.

-Yes.

0:51:400:51:42

We'll come to that later...

0:51:430:51:45

First up, it's that music box.

0:51:460:51:48

Will it sell? That's what we want to know.

0:51:490:51:51

-You're looking really doubtful!

-Yeah. I am slightly doubtful.

0:51:510:51:55

I want this to sell, I really want it to sell.

0:51:550:51:57

But I am slightly doubtful.

0:51:570:51:58

I brought the bag just in case it doesn't.

0:51:580:52:01

-ALL LAUGH It's a big bag.

-Got the shopping trolley.

0:52:010:52:03

-ALL LAUGH

-I hope it goes. I really do.

0:52:030:52:07

A late 19th-century Swiss musical box, playing ten airs.

0:52:080:52:12

Lovely thing there.

0:52:120:52:14

Bids to match. We are opening at £250. 250 here. Can I see the 280?

0:52:140:52:19

£250. 280, can I see? 280. 300. 320.

0:52:190:52:24

£300 I have here with the book. At £300. Is there any advance on 300?

0:52:240:52:29

£300. 300.

0:52:290:52:32

Yes, the hammer's gone down! £300. Top end of the estimate.

0:52:320:52:36

There you go, your record is safe.

0:52:360:52:38

-James is right.

-Ye of little faith.

0:52:380:52:40

James is top of the pops. Well done. Thank you for bringing that in.

0:52:400:52:44

-That's very good.

-Gosh, I was worried.

0:52:440:52:46

'It turns out my reservations were wrong and Marion

0:52:470:52:49

'and Lisa are going home with smiles on their faces.'

0:52:490:52:52

Next up, our mystery object. Is it a bow or is it a ceremonial staff?

0:52:520:52:57

In the catalogue it's catalogued as Indian ceremonial staff,

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so fingers crossed that's worth an awful lot more than a spear.

0:53:010:53:06

-And you know what it's good for? It's a good decorative piece.

-Yes.

0:53:060:53:09

-We like that.

-Yes, we do.

-Thank you.

0:53:090:53:11

-Ethnographica, they call it, don't they?

-Have you been reading again?

0:53:110:53:15

-I learned that from Michael Baggott!

-ALL LAUGH

0:53:150:53:18

Tribal art.

0:53:190:53:20

Let's put it to the test, shall we? Here we go.

0:53:200:53:22

A 19th-century Indian polychrome painted ceremonial staff.

0:53:230:53:28

Very interesting thing. I'm opening the bidding here at £75. £75.

0:53:280:53:33

Do I see 80? £75...

0:53:330:53:34

-Come on, we need 100, don't we?

-We do, yes.

0:53:340:53:37

80. And five. 90, sir?

0:53:370:53:40

-A bidder in the room now.

-90, madam? 90. And five.

0:53:400:53:43

100, madam? 95, I have...

0:53:430:53:45

-We've got it. Come on.

-100, then?

0:53:450:53:47

At £95. 100, can I see?

0:53:500:53:52

-Yes, sir.

-100 now online. £100...

0:53:520:53:54

-100 online. So we've sold it.

-£100, can we see the 110?

0:53:540:53:57

At £100. Is there any advance? It's against you, madam.

0:53:570:53:59

You're sure, now? £100.

0:53:590:54:01

-This might do a bit more, potentially.

-£100...

0:54:010:54:04

It's gone for £100 and you said all the money is going to charity.

0:54:040:54:08

-Yes, it is.

-Which charity's that?

-It's Headway, Guildford, Surrey.

0:54:080:54:11

-And what does that involve?

-It's for people who've had brain damage through falling over,

0:54:110:54:15

-being knocked over by a vehicle...

-What a lovely idea.

0:54:150:54:17

-And my partner, Sue, works for them, so...

-Great cause, then.

-Absolutely.

0:54:170:54:21

-Every single penny.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:54:210:54:23

So, we're off to a good start with the tribal woodwork making its estimate.

0:54:240:54:27

Next up, it's something that really caught MY eye.

0:54:270:54:30

Hands up. Guess what I'm talking about right now? Yes, you've got it.

0:54:330:54:36

The David Shrigley. I like this.

0:54:360:54:38

-Had a chat to Rupert before the sale started. He likes it as well.

-Good.

0:54:380:54:42

Good investment piece. But Elaine, why is your daughter selling this?

0:54:420:54:46

She doesn't really want it any more.

0:54:460:54:50

-She's had it for 10 years.

-And she's off skiing at the moment.

0:54:500:54:53

-Yes, she is.

-She's having a jolly while we're doing the hard work.

0:54:530:54:56

You can get on the phone and ring her up because I know this is going to sell.

0:54:560:54:59

Had a chat to Rupert and he said it WILL sell.

0:54:590:55:01

He's very collectable and sought-after.

0:55:010:55:03

The big question is - how much for?

0:55:030:55:06

The David Shrigley.

0:55:060:55:07

The outline of a hand, inscribed flesh and interior.

0:55:070:55:10

Pen and ink. Initialled and dated 2000 and then one.

0:55:100:55:15

It's a smashing thing with lovely provenance and we've a multitude

0:55:150:55:19

of conflicting bids and we're opening the bidding here at £280.

0:55:190:55:22

280. 300. 320.

0:55:220:55:25

350. At £350 now. At £350.

0:55:250:55:30

At £350, and it is fair warning.

0:55:300:55:32

At £350...

0:55:320:55:36

-Wow!

-350.

0:55:360:55:38

-James didn't like it, did you?

-The world's bonkers.

0:55:380:55:41

Did you like it?

0:55:410:55:42

Personally, no.

0:55:420:55:43

-Personally, no!

-Now you admit it!

0:55:430:55:46

-You wound me up! I thought you liked it!

-Personally, no.

0:55:460:55:49

Thankfully for Elaine, someone did like it

0:55:490:55:52

and hopefully that image will be hanging on their wall.

0:55:520:55:55

Time now for today's final item.

0:55:550:55:58

Well, it was bought at a car-boot sale for £5

0:55:580:56:00

and hopefully we can turn it into maybe £200 or £300 and a bit more.

0:56:000:56:03

I absolutely love it. It belongs to Mark, who is right next to me.

0:56:030:56:07

And here's our expert, Mark. I'm surrounded by Marks!

0:56:070:56:09

-What a great find.

-Excellent, wasn't it?

0:56:090:56:11

And it's signed "R" underneath before his death,

0:56:110:56:14

which is the key factor to look out for.

0:56:140:56:16

I'm not a great big Lalique fan.

0:56:160:56:18

I don't really like that type of glass,

0:56:180:56:20

but I like this because it is sepia and it's a little bit different.

0:56:200:56:25

I'd like to see this do 400.

0:56:250:56:26

It is quite a small vase, but it's nice and fresh to the market,

0:56:260:56:30

the bidders should be out there for it.

0:56:300:56:32

-Good on you.

-Hopefully.

-Good on you.

0:56:320:56:34

Let's put it to the test. This is what it's all about.

0:56:340:56:37

This is what we've been waiting for.

0:56:370:56:38

An Art Deco Lalique sepia stained

0:56:380:56:41

and opalescent glass patterned vase.

0:56:410:56:44

1930s, this one. It's lovely.

0:56:440:56:46

And we are opening the bidding here at £200. At £200.

0:56:460:56:49

-Can we see the 220?

-We've got 200.

0:56:490:56:51

220, thank you. 250. 280?

0:56:510:56:54

280 now, standing in the room. 300, seated.

0:56:540:56:57

320. 350, sir? 380.

0:56:570:56:59

400. 420.

0:56:590:57:01

450. 480. 500.

0:57:010:57:04

520. 550.

0:57:040:57:06

520, I have.

0:57:090:57:10

£520. Are we all done at 520?

0:57:100:57:14

550 now. 580. 600.

0:57:140:57:17

-650, sir.

-650 now...

0:57:200:57:21

-650.

-650, Mark.

-700, sir.

0:57:210:57:25

-Yes, sir.

-700 now.

0:57:290:57:30

-And 720.

-The internet again, you see, Paul?

0:57:300:57:33

It's because it's sepia.

0:57:330:57:35

-Yes, sir.

-780.

0:57:350:57:37

780, I have. And 800.

0:57:390:57:41

-Yes, sir.

-And 820.

0:57:410:57:44

-Was this a "come and buy me"?

-Yes, it was.

0:57:450:57:48

I thought I was being realistic!

0:57:480:57:50

850, can I see?

0:57:500:57:52

-Yes, sir.

-850, it is.

0:57:520:57:54

880?

0:57:540:57:55

850 now, with Glen online.

0:57:550:57:57

£850. £850 against the room. At £850.

0:57:570:58:02

-Are you sure, now?

-800 and...

0:58:020:58:05

£850...

0:58:050:58:07

850.

0:58:070:58:09

-Yes! The hammer's gone down at £850.

-That's not bad, is it?

0:58:090:58:11

We've just turned a fiver into £850,

0:58:110:58:14

thanks to you, Mark.

0:58:140:58:15

Thank you very much indeed. Thank you, Mark.

0:58:150:58:18

I told you I loved it, Mark. Thank you for bearing with us.

0:58:180:58:21

-I was saying to Mark, it's hard to put a value on something when two bidders get stuck in.

-Absolutely.

0:58:210:58:26

-What a way to end the show.

-Wonderful.

0:58:260:58:29

I told you there was going to be a surprise.

0:58:290:58:31

You never know what's going to happen on "Flog It!", so join us

0:58:310:58:34

for many more, but for now, from West Sussex,

0:58:340:58:36

-it's goodbye from the Marks.

-THEY LAUGH

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