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Manchester 35

Antiques series. Paul Martin presents from the Museum of Science and Industry in the heart of Manchester with experts Anita Manning and Michael Baggott.


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This is the site of the first passenger railway line in history.

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It was opened in 1830 and it allowed the working man to travel

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from Manchester to Liverpool in half the time and at half the cost.

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Just one of the reasons why Manchester has an esteemed legacy as

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the world's first industrial city.

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And the men in the mural over there, that's another story.

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We'll be finding out more from Manchester's Museum of Science

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and Industry later on in the programme.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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The Industrial Revolution in Manchester led to enormous wealth

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for some, but extreme poverty for others.

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The city's population quadrupled in just 50 years,

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at the turn of the 19th century.

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And as Friedrich Engels commented,

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living conditions for some were wretched, damp and filthy.

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But as Manchester city grew, so did the people's fight.

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And it's probably

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the relatives of some of these people here, in today's crowd,

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that played a major part in Manchester's working-class

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campaign for the right to vote,

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free trade and also better working conditions.

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But thankfully, our battle is a little less serious today,

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as our experts hunt out the best antiques and collectibles

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to take off to auction.

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And it could be you going home with a small fortune.

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We'll find out later on in the show.

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Fingers crossed and good luck, everyone.

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What a fabulous queue we have here today!

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Let's get the doors open and get on with it!

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ALL: Hooray!

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As our massive queue enters the MOSI,

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they are first struck by the impressive digital sculpture

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that shows some of Manchester's most important people and places.

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But today, it has been hijacked by our very own experts,

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who couldn't resist appearing on another TV screen.

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Pretty in pink and legend in the sale room, it is Anita Manning.

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And the man with an encyclopaedic knowledge of silver,

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Mr Michael Baggott.

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And today, they've found items from around the globe

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and throughout the decades.

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Anita has got a ship that sailed the China seas.

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And the seas were a wild, wild place.

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Michael has got his hands on an Inuit carving

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from a far-flung polar region.

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And I chance upon one of the most beautiful books I've ever seen.

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And the bidders love it, too.

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Well, everybody is now safely seated inside the venue.

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We have our experts in place. They've found their first items.

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So let's now catch up with Michael Baggott,

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who is first at the Flog It! tables.

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We'll take a closer look at what he's spotted.

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Jeff, I better not upset you with you my valuation today,

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cos you've brought this in.

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Where has this lethal weapon come from?

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Well, recently, in my bedside cupboard.

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It goes there at night?

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-Yeah. Just lying in a drawer.

-Have you had cause to use it?

-No.

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-That's good.

-We are very law-abiding people in Manchester.

-Marvellous.

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But where did it come from originally?

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-It belonged originally to my great-great-grandfather.

-Good grief!

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-His father kept a pub in Lancaster.

-Yeah.

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At the age of 19, he left to seek his fortune.

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Went down to London, married a London girl,

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-didn't work out for him. This is in the 1840s.

-Yeah.

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Came back, finally settled in Manchester,

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joined the police force at Ashton.

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Was then moved to a place called Farnworth,

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where he was promoted to police inspector.

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And it was there, I believe, that he was given that particular truncheon.

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Well, we are dealing with a very early period

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in, sort of, police history.

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And this is, sort, of a crossover.

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Cos people will think of a truncheon

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as a grip with a slender tapering for service.

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-This is far more decorative.

-Yeah.

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-And this falls into what we call a tipstaff.

-Hm-mm.

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And they are what is carried much earlier. They had a functional use.

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I mean, you could, you know, whack someone over the head with that

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-if you really had to, but it is more your badge of office.

-Yeah.

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-You've got VR - Victoria Regina.

-Obviously.

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You've got the crown, the warrant.

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On the other side, we've got

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a little shield with a coat of arms on it.

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That would be for the district that employed his service.

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-And we've got these initials here.

-Yeah.

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Sometimes they will be the initials of an officer, but very rarely.

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Often these initials will actually refer to a place.

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-So like, if we were MC, we might be Manchester city.

-Yeah.

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-I don't know what the arms are for or what the initials are.

-No.

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But I can guess there is a tipstaff collector out there that

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-probably does.

-Yeah.

-It's turned out of mahogany.

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And it has got all this decorative ring turning.

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And then it has been varnished.

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And, I mean, look at the colour of it.

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-Yeah, beautiful, isn't it?

-Lovely. And just wear, you know...

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A couple of hundred years of fingers have been around that.

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I mean, I have to ask the question, why have you decided to sell it?

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It's in my bedside cabinet. It's not on display.

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Absolutely. Let's say...

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£150 to £250.

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-If you are happy with that.

-Yeah.

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-And a fixed reserve of 150.

-Yeah, I'd like a fixed reserve.

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You know, it is a wonderful bit of social history.

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And I am delighted you brought it in today.

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Just as long as things don't go badly at the auction

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and I get the back of it on my head, but I don't think we will.

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-Thanks very much for bringing it in.

-You are quite welcome. Thank you.

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That's a real collector's item,

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but will the tipstaff fans be at the auction or bidding online?

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Wait and see. Next, Anita has found some old junk.

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Jackie, an interesting item you have brought along today,

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this little silver Chinese junk.

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Can you tell me, where did you get it?

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Well, my friend, Terry, bought it 20 years ago

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from a car boot in Cheshire.

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Did he tell you what drew him to it?

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He is very fond of ships and boats.

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Having been an engineer and designer,

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he likes anything interesting. Yeah.

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Oh, right, right. It was probably made in the 1920s.

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It would have been made of silver,

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but it would be a low-grade silver, it wouldn't be

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a sterling silver, and it would have been made for the tourist market.

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But don't let that put you off, at all, you know,

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these are quite positive things.

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When I look at that,

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I'm thinking about the South China Seas,

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around Hong Kong,

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and what was happening in the late 19th, early 20th century,

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and the South China Seas were a wild, wild place.

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When we look at the little boat,

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we can see the little cannons on the boat.

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And I find that fascinating.

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When you think of the traffic and the pirates,

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they would need some sort of protection here.

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And we have these marvellous sails.

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Oars, if they were becalmed.

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I mean, it's not a finely-made thing. It's quite crudely done.

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But it is a lot of fun.

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-What do you think it is worth?

-Um...

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-£60 to £70?

-You are quite good, are you looking for a job?

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So, we will put it into auction, £50 to £70.

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Will you be happy to sell it on at that?

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Oh, yes, that's fine, thank you.

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Let's hope that it sails beautifully into the sunset

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-and makes a lot of money.

-Yes!

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# When my ship When my ship, when my ship... #

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It may not be of the highest quality, but this ship has stacks

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of character and keeps a moment in history alive.

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And now it is back to the present day and Mr Michael Baggott.

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Jeff, where has this magnificent decanter stand come from?

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It came from my father, actually, he was in the antique trade years ago.

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Oh, he was a dealer? Was he dealing in silver or everything?

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No, just generally, everything. Furniture, all sorts of things.

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When he retired, he had quite a number of items, you know,

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and this was just one of them.

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And when he died, my mother took everything over.

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And when she died, my sister and I split everything between us.

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-But you decided to keep this.

-Yeah, I decided to keep that, really,

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cos it was such an ornamental thing and it looked nice on the...

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I had it on a bureau and it looked quite nice.

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So it has not been up to here with sherry, whisky and brandy.

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I never actually used it for that, actually.

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Just lately it has been put away in a cupboard, because of the cleaning.

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It got a little bit tarnished.

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So the polishing has, sort of, put paid to it in your house.

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-Well, it has really, yeah!

-I mean, it is typical high Victorian.

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-Is it? Yeah.

-You know,

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if you wanted a picture of what high Victorian was,

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-this would suit it perfectly.

-Right.

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-The decoration is all over the place.

-Right.

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I mean, we've got scrolls, anthemion shells.

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-There are little dolphins, stylised dolphins on the feet.

-Right, yeah.

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-And these immensely-fussy stoppers.

-Right.

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This one is a bit low and this one is a bit high.

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I never noticed that, I thought they were all the same.

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I just wonder if they are not the original stoppers.

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We've got the electroplate labels.

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-And the whole frame is electroplated.

-Right.

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-Sadly, not solid silver.

-No.

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And we've got the electroplater's mark of Padley and Parkin Limited.

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And they were working in about 1849 to about 1855.

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-Right.

-Which is slap bang

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-when you'd expect this sort of thing to be made.

-I see.

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I think it was probably a more popular thing

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when your father had it than it is today.

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So I think it would have to be

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put into an auction at an attractive figure to another trade buyer.

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-Right.

-I think...let's say, £100 to £200.

-Right.

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-Put a fixed reserve of £100 on it.

-That's OK, yeah.

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I think two people might just fall in love with it,

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wonky stoppers or not,

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and it might go on and make a great sum at the auction.

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-So thanks very much for bringing it in.

-Right.

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Jeff, you'll never have to polish it again.

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Wave goodbye to it now.

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You get a lot for your money with those decanters, but the market

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for elaborate Victorian ware is not what it used to be.

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How will it fare when it goes under the hammer?

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We'll find out in just a moment.

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But first, some precious treasure discovered, thanks to Flog It!

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-Carol...

-Hello, Anita.

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..in today's current market, I am always delighted to see

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gold coins coming in to auction.

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-Very good.

-Tell me, where did you get these ones?

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Well, it's my... My dad passed away two years ago

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and I got them then. They were just in a box.

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When I found out Flog It! was coming to Manchester town centre,

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I thought, "Ooh, I'll look in my dad's box."

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And I found these. I thought, "I'll take them with me."

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So, you didn't know that they were there, until this morning?

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Yes. It's... I never bothered to look in the box.

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The price of precious metals has risen substantially

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in the last few years.

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This is because people are not getting big interest in the banks.

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-Yes.

-The price of the property has gone down, stocks and shares

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-have gone down.

-Yes.

-At times like this,

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people go back to what they know, what they can feel in their hand,

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and that is gold.

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-We have two sovereigns.

-Yes.

-We have a half sovereign and we have

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-a sovereign in a ring mount.

-Right.

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Now, did your dad collect coins especially or is there anything

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that drew him to collecting gold or coins or whatever?

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He always had an interest in all different types of coins.

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-Even the old penny coins.

-Were you allowed to play with them?

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Sometimes we were, because he used to have them

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in special little packets and he used to slot them all in

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and we would go and say, "Wow, Dad, they're great!"

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Your dad was a very astute man, especially in buying the gold coins.

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-Yes.

-The nominal value of these coins...

-Yes.

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..was £1, at the time.

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-Right.

-So, what are they worth now?

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Erm...£50, maybe. Maybe £60 for the bigger ones.

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Well, they are more than that. They are more than that.

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-What I would do is I would sell these as a group.

-Right.

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I would put an estimate on these

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-of £550 to £750.

-That's amazing.

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-I didn't realise they were...

-550 to 750.

-Wow.

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For those little coins?

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-Wow.

-We will put a reserve price on these at 550,

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-but giving the auctioneer just a touch of a discretion.

-Right.

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-But you've got a wee fortune.

-I know, I can't believe it!

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-Thank you very much.

-I know they will do very well.

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Thank you very much, Anita.

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While everyone is busy here,

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I am off to do something completely different.

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CLASSICAL MUSIC

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Manchester is bursting with diverse buildings.

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From Italian-inspired palazzio structures

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like the old Free Trade Hall

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to the finest examples in neo-Gothic.

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Every building here helps tell the story of Manchester,

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from the development of the textile industry in the 18th century

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through to Manchester's colossal rise

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as the world's first industrial city.

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Each era brought new building styles for different purposes.

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Banks, warehouses and municipal buildings were used by businessmen

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as a symbol of their wealth and success, and these big architectural statements

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also said they had pride in their city.

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Many of those buildings are still standing here,

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in a city that's built on ambition,

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and today, I'm taking you on an architectural tour of Manchester,

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and what better way to do it than by a chauffeur driven limo?

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-Hi, John.

-Hi, mate.

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-Pleased to meet you.

-Pleased to meet you.

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Well, John, driving a taxi.

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John, how long have you been

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a cabbie driving the streets of Manchester?

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Oh, this year, Paul, I daren't think.

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-It's around about 30 years this year.

-Really?

-Yeah, really.

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-Gosh!

-You must have seen the city change a lot.

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Well, it's changed dramatically.

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It's still changing even as we speak, as you see,

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as we're driving round the city, all the new buildings

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and the old buildings all blend in nicely together, don't they?

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-Yeah, yeah.

-Fabulous.

-Where do we start?

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Well, what we'll do is, we'll start off and we'll break you in gently.

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We'll go the Friends' Meeting House,

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which is one of the early Greek revival buildings in Manchester,

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-and then we'll move on from there.

-OK.

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Manchester may have been established by the Romans,

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but no Roman buildings survive.

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What you do see here, though,

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is an abundance of buildings that may look old,

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but they're not nearly as ancient as they appear.

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Now, here we are. This is the Friends' Meeting House,

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built by the architect Richard Lane in 1828.

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It's a place where the Quakers would come and meet and worship.

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Now, although the building's not quite 200 years old yet,

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it has the feel and the presence of something

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that's ancient and prestigious.

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That's because it's built in the Greek revival style,

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and by mimicking the ancient Greeks with this perfect form and symmetry,

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wonderful columns with Ionic capitals at the top,

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you create a building that has real majesty.

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And another clever trick that the architects discovered

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by setting it back from that noisy road there

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with these wonderful steps that goes up to a raised ground floor,

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you have a building of such majesty,

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you could almost imagine you're in ancient Greece.

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Richard Lane's building marked the start of Victorian architecture

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in Manchester. The Victorians took inspiration from around the globe

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and throughout history to give their structures an air of antiquity.

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And no edifice did it quite as well as this - Manchester Town Hall.

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Now, you couldn't come to Manchester and talk about architecture

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without seeing this building, the town hall.

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It's absolutely awesome. It's a powerful-looking building,

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yet it's full of dignity

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and architectural detail and ornamentation.

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It's a symbol of strength and inspiration,

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and that's exactly what the architect and the town planners

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of the day had in mind.

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Alfred Waterhouse's town hall was built in 1877,

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but its style harks back to 13th century gothic.

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It echoes the power and the might of the UK's early cathedrals,

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and it said to the world that Manchester meant business.

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BELL RINGS

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What a fabulous building. It's what I would describe as

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an architectural gem, a real joy to walk around.

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But I love the fact that it tells the story of

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the most significant people throughout this city's history -

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scientists renowned the world over for their great achievements,

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people like John Dalton here, beautifully carved in marble

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right in the main entrance area.

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And whilst busts of businessmen and politicians adorn the corridors,

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the working man is not forgotten.

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On the outside, on the exterior of this fine building,

0:18:260:18:29

there's this massive, great big roundel

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which tells us the city's roots, based on the textile industry.

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Right down to the wonderful floors, all the mosaic work,

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the worker bees, thousands, thousands of them.

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This represents the hard graft that everybody put in

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throughout the Industrial Revolution,

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making this city what it is, really, today.

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The worker bees generated the wealth that paid for these buildings,

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and they did it from a far less salubrious environment.

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This is where the architecture most strongly evokes

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the story of Manchester.

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These disused mills either side of me were built in the 19th century

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to produce cotton on an unprecedented scale,

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and even by today's standards, these buildings are absolutely huge.

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These massive constructions were built

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for practicality rather than beauty,

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and conditions inside were often cramped and dangerous.

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The Ancoats area has a real atmosphere and feel to it.

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On one hand, you can imagine these mills being full

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with thousands of people working incredibly hard for long hours,

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in dangerous conditions, and on the other hand,

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it reflects the demise of the Industrial Revolution.

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This whole area has gone from representing wealth and industry

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to becoming a symbol of unemployment

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and the end of the textiles industry.

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Today, there is new life being breathed into Ancoats,

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and the city centre is thriving with buildings and investment.

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And there's one building in particular that you cannot ignore.

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Beetham Tower dominates the skyline

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as its 47 storeys cut through the blue.

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For me, it shows how the city has developed in the last 200 years.

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Thanks a lot.

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From its 23rd floor, you can see the Gothic, the classical

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and the contemporary buildings that tell the tale of that progress.

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The Victorians demonstrated Manchester's ambitions

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with the buildings they designed and erected.

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Power and strength symbolised in architecture, and it's a message

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that's still emblazoned across the city skyline today.

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Fingers crossed, everybody.

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Good luck later on in the programme, because it could be you,

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you or you going through to the auction.

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That's exactly where we're going right now

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for our very first visit. Our experts have worked flat out.

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They have been industrious.

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We're going to put those values to the test.

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And here's what we are taking with us.

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Hello, hello, hello. What have we here?

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It is a tipstaff from the 19th century,

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and is up for grabs today.

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The Chinese junk would make a great gift for a sailing buff.

0:21:330:21:36

It might go down a storm in the sale room.

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And Jeff's grandiose decanters won't match many modern interiors.

0:21:410:21:45

Will this deter the bidders?

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Gold prices fluctuate, so the sovereigns could make

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the top or the bottom end of the estimate.

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There's only one way to find out - it's off to auction, which is held

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in an old school hall 15 miles from Manchester,

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in the town of Knutsford.

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Frank Marshall Saleroom was established in 1947

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and sells everything from bronze beasts to chubby cherubs.

0:22:110:22:15

Nick Hall and Peter Ashburner are in charge of the sale today,

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and it's their duty to get as much money as possible for every item.

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The sale is online, so bidders from around the world will be

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logging on right now for our first Flog It! lot.

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Now, not only is this little truncheon in fabulous

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condition, from the Queen Victoria era, but we also have

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the gentleman who owned it, the policeman who owned it,

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and all of his career record!

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This is what you can't find out.

0:22:440:22:46

This is what is not written on the tipstaff.

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So this is probably one in, what,

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200 or 300 that we'll see that still has it.

0:22:510:22:54

-It makes a big difference.

-Yeah.

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Let's find out what the bidders think right now.

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It's going under the hammer. Here we go.

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The Queen Victorian mahogany turned wood tipstaff.

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What are we going to say for this?

0:23:040:23:05

Who's going to open the bidding for me?

0:23:050:23:08

I'll ask 150.

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150 anywhere?

0:23:090:23:11

£100 and away, surely.

0:23:110:23:14

Bidding, 100. At £100, on bid.

0:23:140:23:16

-And ten. 120.

-Right, we are off.

0:23:160:23:19

-We are in.

-That was short and sweet.

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At £120.

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Anybody got 30 now? At £120.

0:23:220:23:25

-You're out on the right, make no mistake.

-I can't believe this.

-120.

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Anybody got more? Anybody online?

0:23:280:23:31

At 120, then. Any advance now on 120?

0:23:310:23:35

I'm sorry, we're not quite there with that one.

0:23:350:23:39

Well, do you know something?

0:23:390:23:40

I'm absolutely pleased, really. Because...

0:23:400:23:42

Now you've brought this along,

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I think this makes the complete package.

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Get this photocopied and... Or when you do offer it up to the

0:23:460:23:49

next sale room, offer it up as a complete package. Yeah.

0:23:490:23:53

Because that did arrive a little bit too late.

0:23:530:23:55

We just found out about that while the auctioneer covered the rostrum.

0:23:550:23:58

-Yeah.

-I think it was not meant to go.

-Yeah, so do I.

0:23:580:24:02

-I think he probably had something to say about it.

-Yeah.

0:24:020:24:06

Now here's a tip.

0:24:060:24:07

If you've got some provenance that goes with an item,

0:24:070:24:10

make sure you get them both to the auction house in time

0:24:100:24:13

so they can be catalogued together.

0:24:130:24:15

It might mean the difference between a sale and a no sale.

0:24:150:24:18

And talking of sale...

0:24:180:24:20

Our next lot is that Chinese junk, belonging to Jackie.

0:24:200:24:23

And it is really sculptural, isn't it?

0:24:230:24:25

I remember it from the valuation day.

0:24:250:24:26

You can't forget this lot, can you?

0:24:260:24:28

-And you zoomed in on this, you loved it.

-I love it.

0:24:280:24:31

I was in Hong Kong at Christmas time, and I saw lots of these

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fabulous boats in the harbour, the South China Seas.

0:24:350:24:40

-And they really just sparked my imagination.

-Right.

0:24:400:24:43

Well, let's hope we can do the same to the bidders in the sale room.

0:24:430:24:46

Let's hope they have got a great imagination.

0:24:460:24:49

It's going under the hammer now.

0:24:490:24:50

Fine Chinese white metal model of a junk in glazed case.

0:24:500:24:56

Rather stylish, isn't it? Right, where were going to go over this?

0:24:560:25:00

Who's going to start me at £50?

0:25:000:25:02

Yes? 50. 50 bid. At 50.

0:25:020:25:04

Seated bid at 50. I'll take five.

0:25:040:25:07

At £50. Anybody else want a go?

0:25:070:25:09

-There is a bid in now.

-Is there a five? Anybody online?

0:25:090:25:12

-Come on.

-Anybody else in the room?

0:25:120:25:14

It is £50, seated in the centre of the room,

0:25:140:25:16

and I'm going to sell it.

0:25:160:25:17

Selling it, Jackie. £50, hammer has gone down.

0:25:170:25:20

-£50, just made it.

-Fine.

-It just made it.

-Right.

0:25:200:25:23

-Brilliant.

-Are you happy enough at that?

0:25:230:25:25

-Very happy.

-I'm sure Terry will be as well.

0:25:250:25:27

-Oh, yes.

-Over the moon, in fact.

0:25:270:25:29

Next, they were found under a bed

0:25:290:25:32

and brought along to the valuation day.

0:25:320:25:34

How much will they sell for?

0:25:340:25:35

Going under the hammer right now, we've got a lot of gold.

0:25:350:25:38

Two full sovereigns, one half-sovereign,

0:25:380:25:40

one full sovereign bound in a ring.

0:25:400:25:42

Carol, it's great to see you again.

0:25:420:25:44

Who've you brought along? Who's this?

0:25:440:25:46

This is my twin sister Anne.

0:25:460:25:48

Hello, Anne. Do you know what, I thought I was seeing double then!

0:25:480:25:50

Yeah, you are twin sisters. You can see it, can't you?

0:25:500:25:53

-You can.

-You really can.

0:25:530:25:54

I guess you've both got joint ownership of this, haven't you,

0:25:540:25:57

-so you're going to divide up the proceeds.

-Yes.

0:25:570:25:59

We're going to put it to the test right now. Ready?

0:25:590:26:01

-BOTH: Yes.

-Let's do it.

0:26:010:26:03

I can start the bidding at 560.

0:26:040:26:07

-560!

-Yes!

-I'll take 580 if you like.

0:26:070:26:09

580. 600.

0:26:090:26:12

620. At 620 in the room.

0:26:120:26:14

640 online.

0:26:140:26:16

640, 660. All online now.

0:26:160:26:18

680. At 680, online bidder.

0:26:180:26:20

Any advance now?

0:26:200:26:22

Both online now, 680, 700.

0:26:220:26:25

-(700!)

-£700 and 20.

0:26:250:26:27

At £720, all done?

0:26:270:26:29

Any advance?

0:26:290:26:31

Online at 720, selling at...

0:26:310:26:34

-740. 740.

-(740!)

0:26:340:26:36

-THEY LAUGH

-Come on, don't stop there.

0:26:360:26:38

760. 760.

0:26:380:26:40

And it's online.

0:26:400:26:41

GAVEL BANGS

0:26:410:26:42

-Sold.

-Yes!

-Top end of the estimate.

0:26:420:26:44

-Well done.

-Thank you.

-That's a good result.

0:26:440:26:47

-Are you happy?

-Yes, very happy.

-Yes.

0:26:470:26:50

Let's hope this next lot lifts the spirits in the sale room.

0:26:520:26:56

Right now we've got a bit of Victorian electroplate for you -

0:26:560:26:59

Jeff's decanter and stand.

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Why are you selling this, Jeff?

0:27:010:27:02

It has been in the family for such a long time

0:27:020:27:04

and it's never had anything in it, any spirits or anything.

0:27:040:27:07

It would add to the value right now.

0:27:070:27:09

-What are we looking at, about 100, 150?

-100 to 200.

0:27:090:27:12

I remember ten years ago these at auction making £500, £600.

0:27:120:27:16

-Really?

-Because of the high Victorian taste. It's gone.

0:27:160:27:19

It was all about showing off for entertaining,

0:27:190:27:22

-but now it is all about minimalism.

-Yeah.

0:27:220:27:24

Right, we're going to find out exactly what this packed

0:27:240:27:27

auction house thinks of the electroplate.

0:27:270:27:29

It is going under the hammer now.

0:27:290:27:30

Ready to go for gin, brandy and whisky, whatever's your flavour.

0:27:300:27:34

Where are we going to go? I've got commission interest.

0:27:340:27:37

I'm coming straight in on the book now at £100, firm.

0:27:370:27:39

We're now at 100.

0:27:390:27:40

110. 120. 130.

0:27:400:27:43

140. 150. 160.

0:27:430:27:44

Must have a couple of heavy drinkers in Knutsford.

0:27:440:27:47

Yeah, it has made its money straightaway.

0:27:470:27:49

It has literally made its money.

0:27:490:27:51

190. 200.

0:27:510:27:53

And ten. 210 now. It is against you online, it is against the room.

0:27:530:27:57

It is all on commission.

0:27:570:27:58

At £210, bids are with me.

0:27:580:28:00

At 210, I sell.

0:28:000:28:02

Last chance, all sure?

0:28:020:28:04

-Well, that was a great result.

-Brilliant.

0:28:040:28:06

I think that was a brilliant result, £210, Jeff.

0:28:060:28:09

-Very pleased with that.

-Yeah!

0:28:090:28:11

-I think we are in the right area.

-Nostalgia.

0:28:110:28:13

-Big Victorian houses with Victorian interiors.

-Yeah, nostalgia.

0:28:130:28:16

We've hit the right place with the right object.

0:28:160:28:19

That is a great result.

0:28:190:28:21

Maybe decanters are coming back into fashion.

0:28:210:28:24

Manchester has had many famous sons

0:28:240:28:26

and daughters throughout history, from Emmeline Pankhurst to LS Lowry.

0:28:260:28:32

But one of the most extraordinary men from this city charted

0:28:320:28:36

the history of 20th century America

0:28:360:28:38

and created a social record of unparalleled distinction.

0:28:380:28:42

Broadcasting House, in the heart of London, is the most famous

0:28:470:28:50

of all the BBC's buildings and its original home,

0:28:500:28:54

so it is a fitting place to talk about the work of one

0:28:540:28:58

of the BBC's most legendary radio broadcasters, Alistair Cooke,

0:28:580:29:03

born in Salford, near Manchester, in 1908.

0:29:030:29:07

For 58 years, Alistair Cooke presented Letter From America,

0:29:070:29:11

the world's longest-running speech radio programme,

0:29:110:29:14

from the BBC studios in New York.

0:29:140:29:16

Now, at the time of his death in 2004,

0:29:160:29:19

the then acting Director General of the BBC described him

0:29:190:29:23

as the outstanding commentator of the 20th century.

0:29:230:29:26

The Letter, which started on March 24th, 1946,

0:29:320:29:36

was originally devised as a 13-week series.

0:29:360:29:41

What follows is part of the very first episode that Cooke

0:29:410:29:45

re-recorded in 1996.

0:29:450:29:48

In it, he describes his trip over the Atlantic on a ship packed

0:29:480:29:53

with GI brides, leaving a war-weary Britain for their new lives

0:29:530:29:57

in the United States.

0:29:570:29:59

'I sailed back on the Queen Mary with a couple of thousand GI brides.

0:29:590:30:05

'And I recall now the great liner thundering its great horn

0:30:050:30:09

'as we slipped away from the dock at Southampton.

0:30:090:30:13

'All the mothers were clinging to the rail

0:30:130:30:15

'and all the babies were clinging to their mothers.

0:30:150:30:19

'Along the entire curving length of the ship's main deck,

0:30:190:30:23

'the handkerchiefs fluttered in an unbroken line,

0:30:230:30:27

'like washing day in Manchester.'

0:30:270:30:29

The formula for The Letter never really changed that much.

0:30:330:30:37

It broke all broadcasting records by reaching 2,869 episodes.

0:30:370:30:43

And remarkably, Cooke himself only missed three of the weekly

0:30:430:30:48

broadcasts throughout that entire epic run.

0:30:480:30:51

And the letters themselves acted like a secular sermon,

0:30:510:30:55

charting the history of the 20th century through the daily

0:30:550:30:58

life of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

0:30:580:31:02

Over almost 60 years, his 15-minute reflections

0:31:040:31:07

touched on everything from the assassinations of the Kennedys,

0:31:070:31:11

the civil rights movement, the Vietnam War, the Watergate scandal

0:31:110:31:16

and the terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers on 11th September.

0:31:160:31:20

'I found myself, by one casual chance in a thousand,

0:31:200:31:25

'on hand,

0:31:250:31:27

'in a small, narrow serving pantry

0:31:270:31:29

'of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.

0:31:290:31:32

'There was suddenly a banging repetition of a sound

0:31:320:31:36

'that I don't know how to describe, not at all like shots,

0:31:360:31:40

'like somebody dropping a rack of trays.

0:31:400:31:42

'There were flashlights by now,

0:31:420:31:44

'and the button eyes of Ethel Kennedy turned to cinders.

0:31:440:31:47

'And down on the greasy floor was a huddle of clothes,

0:31:470:31:50

'and staring out of it, the face of Bobby Kennedy,

0:31:500:31:53

'like the stone face of a child lying on a cathedral tomb.'

0:31:530:31:57

His proud assertion was that

0:32:040:32:06

until he sat down at his portable typewriter on Thursday morning,

0:32:060:32:10

he didn't actually know what he was going to write about.

0:32:100:32:13

This is his very typewriter here, at Broadcasting House.

0:32:130:32:16

So what you got was the texture of daily life, conversations with

0:32:160:32:21

cab-drivers and shopkeepers

0:32:210:32:22

and store holders that he bumped into and met.

0:32:220:32:25

His last letter was written four weeks before his death,

0:32:250:32:29

at the age of 95.

0:32:290:32:31

A reporter at heart,

0:32:310:32:33

Cooke not only wrote Letter From America for the BBC,

0:32:330:32:36

he worked as a foreign correspondent for The Guardian newspaper

0:32:360:32:39

for 25 years and he made memorable television programmes

0:32:390:32:43

in both the US and the UK,

0:32:430:32:45

including the monumental BBC series Alistair Cooke's America.

0:32:450:32:49

But he followed a strict regime - work always stopped at cocktail hour

0:32:490:32:53

and the evenings were kept for pleasure.

0:32:530:32:55

Letter From America is older than Radio 4 itself.

0:32:570:33:01

It started out life on the Home Service

0:33:010:33:04

and then moved over to the new station when it was created in 1967.

0:33:040:33:09

And now the programme has taken another remarkable turn.

0:33:090:33:13

The dusty old reels have been given a 21st century makeover.

0:33:130:33:16

It is now available on the BBC's website.

0:33:160:33:20

But many of the early episodes were not recorded by the BBC,

0:33:200:33:24

and these unique reflections could have been lost forever.

0:33:240:33:28

But thanks to 90-year-old Roy Whitaker, that's not the case.

0:33:280:33:32

Roy, can you explain how you helped the BBC with their archive?

0:33:320:33:36

Well, the BBC put out a request

0:33:360:33:39

for anyone who had any early

0:33:390:33:42

recordings of Alistair Cooke's Letter From America.

0:33:420:33:46

I got in touch with the BBC and, to cut a long story short,

0:33:460:33:50

two reps from the BBC came down to our home address to view

0:33:500:33:55

the quantity of tapes that I had.

0:33:550:33:57

And in all, there were over 200 cassettes.

0:33:570:34:01

And it worked out to well over 1,000 recordings altogether.

0:34:010:34:05

And when did these recordings start from?

0:34:050:34:08

Well, my recordings started from 1978. And almost without fail,

0:34:080:34:14

I didn't miss a recording until the day he retired.

0:34:140:34:17

What was it about Alistair Cooke? I mean, why were you such a big fan?

0:34:170:34:21

Because he is such a wonderful speaker.

0:34:210:34:24

He had such a wonderful way of putting things over.

0:34:240:34:26

And he had such quips that he dropped in.

0:34:260:34:30

I was just fascinated by his command of the English language.

0:34:300:34:35

His talks,

0:34:350:34:37

only 15 minutes every Friday,

0:34:370:34:40

and Sunday morning it was repeated again,

0:34:400:34:43

I could listen to them forever. Yeah.

0:34:430:34:45

Unfortunately, I've not got round to doing that.

0:34:450:34:48

But they are there. If I live

0:34:490:34:51

long enough, I'll do some of them, that's for sure.

0:34:510:34:54

'In no time at all, a new profession was born,

0:34:540:34:56

'that of marketing research.

0:34:560:34:58

'And the marketing researcher became to industry in this country

0:34:580:35:02

'what the oracles were to the Greeks.'

0:35:020:35:05

I ought to give credit to another gentleman, David Henderson.

0:35:050:35:08

He contacted the BBC, too.

0:35:080:35:11

-And he is responsible for a lot before the 1970s.

-Yeah.

0:35:110:35:14

The BBC, from the two contributions,

0:35:140:35:19

they were able to resurrect

0:35:190:35:22

620-odd recordings.

0:35:220:35:25

Well, it sounds like we are really in debt to both of you.

0:35:250:35:28

Thank you so much, Roy, it has been a pleasure to talk to you.

0:35:280:35:31

My pleasure. Absolutely.

0:35:310:35:33

Roy's recordings prove that antiques don't have to be silver or gold

0:35:330:35:36

to be valuable.

0:35:360:35:38

Maybe you've got something in the attic that is

0:35:380:35:41

precious beyond pounds and pence,

0:35:410:35:43

like Alistair Cooke's unique, historical records,

0:35:430:35:46

which can now be accessed by everyone.

0:35:460:35:50

The question is, what is that worth?

0:35:500:35:51

Well, the answer is obvious - priceless, of course.

0:35:510:35:54

Back at our valuation day,

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the engines of industry are still running, and the fuel

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for Michael's fire is a stunning carving from an indigenous people.

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Bruce, thank you for coming along with this very intriguing figure.

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Before I say anything about it, where did it come from?

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I bought him at an auction in Dorset. There was no bids on him,

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-so I went and made an offer to the people in the office.

-Really?

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How cheeky was the offer you made?

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I started off at five pounds and went up by 50ps.

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Did it take a long time to buy it at that rate?

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They gave up at £7.50 and told me to take it.

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-They told me I could have it.

-I'm going to remember that technique.

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You wore them down.

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I should've offered them 20p, I made a big mistake.

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And you'd have got it for six quid.

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We've basically got, as you know, a soapstone carving of an Eskimo,

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-or more correctly, an Inuit.

-An Inuit.

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And it falls into this very interesting group of Inuit

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carvings that were done, but done to be given as gifts,

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mainly due to the Western influence.

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Before probably about 1870, 1860,

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the carvings that they made were purely within their own culture.

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And they can be in soapstone or the more desirable

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ones can be in a species of slate called argillite.

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And that is very telling, when you see something in this material.

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-Does that give it a date, then?

-It can be earlier but it can be later.

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Dating is a problem. It is a thorny issue.

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I would imagine this to date from the first quarter

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of the 20th century. It has got a lot of wear to it.

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We've got the bone used. And we've got little bits of damage.

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-The base is cracked. And that has happened over time.

-Yeah.

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Now, this has got the sense of being handled, and soapstone does wear.

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It is quite a soft material.

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A value...

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when we are uncertain of date is an even bigger problem.

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Is it more than £7.50, Bruce?

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I think that's more than £7.50.

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Let's put it in at £100 to £200.

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And it is going to be photographed, it is going to

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be put on the internet.

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And it is going to be described as an Inuit carving.

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So basically, anybody in the world looks on the internet catalogues,

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and believe me, there are many,

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many people that type in "Inuit carvings" once a week,

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will see this, and they will probably know better than you

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and I when it was made, who made it and what it is worth.

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But I think for the moment,

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-if you are happy to risk your £7.50 figure...

-I will risk my £7.50.

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It is as much a learning experience for me

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as it probably will be for you on the day, Bruce,

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but thank you so much for bringing in such an interesting item.

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Thank you very much.

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Art and sculpture has always played a big part in Inuit society,

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and this carving represents that ancient tradition.

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I hope someone in the sale room recognises its worth.

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Thank you so much, everyone, for coming in today,

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because without you, we would not have a show.

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Hold up what you've got, let's see!

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Let me take my pick. Let me beat the experts to all the goodies.

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Well, I'm going for the nearest thing, actually.

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Wow, look at this!

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Look at that!

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Chis-chis. Chis-chis.

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That looks like a very early pair of secateurs,

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something for Alan Titchmarsh.

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-1920s or '30s?

-19...13.

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1913, pair of English secateurs.

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Look at that, still working, oiled up and cleaned.

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-Do you use them?

-Occasionally.

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-Put your finger in.

-Yeah. Chis. Oh!

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Prune the privet heads.

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Well, good luck with that. Well, what have you got here? Oh!

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-I've got a very old...

-Papillon, butterflies!

-Papillons.

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-And they're all hand-painted.

-Oooh!

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Can I have a look at these? What is your name?

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-My name is Kath Dawson.

-Kath, how did you come by these?

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Well, originally, in the 1960s, my first job was as an art designer,

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-a textile designer, at a mill up in the Rossendale Valley.

-OK.

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And when I was made redundant, which was only after a couple of years,

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I was asked, would I like to pick a book,

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and this is what I picked.

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I think the condition is superb, absolutely superb.

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This is how it was as I was given it, you know, so...

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This man, Seguy, was quite influential, you know,

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-with the colours and the designs.

-It is very good.

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I did take it to somebody about three years ago who was prepared to

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-buy it from me.

-And how much were they prepared to offer you?

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They were offering £1,000 three years ago.

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-Are they still about?

-Yes.

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I haven't contacted them, though.

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-And is it something you're hoping to sell in one of our auctions?

-Yes.

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It just seems such a shame that it's wrapped up

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in brown paper in my wardrobe.

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My gut feeling is there is a value here instantly of a round about

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£500, if you add up the individual sheets.

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There is around about 15 or 20 really good plates here,

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all in great condition.

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And if you think every plate might be worth

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-round about £30 to £40, you've already got £500, haven't you?

-Yes.

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I mean, I am quite happy to go with your valuation on that.

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-I do personally think it is a bit punchy.

-Right.

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I think what we should do is we should look online,

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look on the internet,

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-find out exactly if any of these copies have sold before.

-Yeah.

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Look after you, put you in our best interests.

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And then I'll go and do the rounds with our off-screen experts.

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This is where it could get quite interesting.

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If you wait here, OK? I'll be five minutes, and we'll do a quick recce

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-and we we'll come back with some kind of figure.

-Right.

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It will be interesting to know if any of them have heard of him.

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-I will let you know in a minute.

-OK.

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Right, so follow me. This is where it all happens here.

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These are the filming tables.

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But we've got some off-screen experts over there.

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Allison, Nick, you wouldn't mind just having a look at that,

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would you? It is complete.

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And just doing a little bit of research,

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-find out if any have been sold before...

-Yep.

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-..and what they've made.

-Very colourful.

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-The condition is very good. I'll be back in a couple of minutes.

-Sure.

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Stay with us to find out what the research reveals.

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Jim, when I saw this in the queue this morning,

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I thought, "That is a beauty."

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Is this the family silver, Jim?

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No, no, this is the charity shop silver.

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-You bought this in a charity shop?

-Yes.

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Do you go round to charity shops or was it just a chance buy?

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I go down and have a look all the time, but it was a chance buy,

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it was just dumped in, black.

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Maybe it looked like pewter, so I thought, I'll have a look anyway.

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-How much did it cost you?

-About a fiver.

-About a fiver.

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-Did you find out anything about it?

-No.

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But because there are no hallmarks, I wondered if it was silver or tin.

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I didn't really know, so I thought, "I'll bring it."

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Well, it is silver.

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Now, there are various aspects of the teapot that

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I look at just to make sure and to be reassure myself.

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The feel of it first of all. The feel of it is right.

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If feels like silver.

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If we look at the lid here,

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we can see this beautiful,

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well-finished little nut inside.

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That's denoting quality.

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They wouldn't do that if it was plate.

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We look at the shape of it.

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Now, this is what we call a drum teapot.

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And the date of this is about 1780.

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So it is an 18th-century piece of silver.

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I know the date of it because of the style.

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And the quality.

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And when we look at this engraving round here,

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this is bright-well engraving.

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And this is telling us that there is, again, quality to it.

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And in its time,

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it would have glittered like diamonds.

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And we look at the spout here.

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Again, it is very low in the teapot,

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and this is another indication of age.

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So all these little things are giving me hints,

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which will build up the whole picture.

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Now, why do you want to sell it now?

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We're thinking about emigrating in the near future,

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-so we need funds just to get us there.

-Oh, right.

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And you think we are going to get more than a fiver on it?

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-If you get a tenner, I've doubled my money.

-All right.

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Well, you are going to get more than a tenner for that.

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-Estimate, 100 to 150. Would you be happy to sell it at that?

-Yes.

-OK.

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100 to 150, a reserve of £100.

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And maybe give the auctioneer

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-just a little bit of discretion.

-Yep.

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But I don't think you'll need it. I think this will do very well.

0:44:540:44:58

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you for bringing it along.

-My pleasure.

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Now, some very unusual owls.

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Roy, thank you for bringing in this lovely pair of little pepper pots.

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You're welcome.

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How did you come by them?

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-I got them off the internet.

-A long time ago?

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-About three weeks ago.

-Three weeks ago!

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What was I doing... Why wasn't I paying attention?

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Do you buy a lot of silver on the internet, or...?

0:45:200:45:23

I've just started buying silver, yeah.

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About six months ago.

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-Right.

-Like, the babies' rattles

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and the Vesta cases and things like that.

0:45:320:45:35

So what started you off?

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I just like buying animal objects, so if it's in the form of an animal,

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I'll buy it.

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When you bought them, what were they described to?

0:45:430:45:47

1952 was the date that the guy put on them,

0:45:470:45:49

and just pepper pots, salt and pepper pots.

0:45:490:45:52

Right. Well, if we have a look here, we've got

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a full set of hallmarks just tucked on the tail,

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and indeed, we've got hallmarks for 1952.

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-And Chester.

-Yeah.

-Chester is an assay office

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that, in the '40s and '50s, started to produce less and less silver.

0:46:050:46:09

Right. Less was marked there, and in fact,

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it closed in the 1960s.

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So it's very unusual to get large novelty pieces marked that late.

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That's the first thing.

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And the second thing is, they're really good quality.

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They're copying the first novelty pepperettes in the form of owls,

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made by Charles Thomas and George Fox

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-in about 1840, 1850.

-Yeah.

0:46:310:46:34

Then towards the end of the 19th century,

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all these little pepper pots get much smaller.

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It's as if they're harking back

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-to the ones that were made 100 years ago.

-Right.

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They are handmade, the feet are cast,

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and they're engraved to simulate feathers.

0:46:480:46:51

I suppose the crucial question - well, two crucial questions -

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is, why do you want to sell them? Cos you bought them three weeks ago.

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-Cos they're not old enough.

-They're not old enough for you!

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You're a puritan. You're a man after my own heart, Roy.

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And the other big question is, what did you pay for them?

0:47:040:47:08

350.

0:47:080:47:10

-350 was not an unreasonable price to pay.

-That's with postage.

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With postage and everything included.

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In fact, you probably couldn't go into a dealer's

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-and buy those for 350 today.

-No.

-So that's good value.

0:47:200:47:23

Now, at auction, I think we would be sensible to put £300-500 on them,

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-and a fixed reserve of £300.

-Yeah.

0:47:280:47:30

And that gives them the best chance of getting up to that £500 mark.

0:47:300:47:34

Right, OK.

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So if these do well, you want something earlier and smaller.

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I'm going to go on holiday with it.

0:47:400:47:43

Oh, it's holiday!

0:47:430:47:45

-I suppose you can't spend all your money on silver, can you?

-No, no.

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They're lovely things, and they really are unusual at that date,

0:47:480:47:51

so thank you so much for bringing them in,

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and I hope they fly away at the auction.

0:47:530:47:56

Right, done a bit of research.

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It happens that one complete set, a set of 20, sold recently,

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in London, in auction,

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catalogued at £700 to £900,

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-and they made £600.

-Right.

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-So, are you happy with £500?

-Yeah.

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If I can get more, that would be better.

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Do you know what? Well, look,

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we'll put it in at £500 to £800,

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with an estimate of £500 to £800,

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a fixed reserve at £500, not a penny less,

0:48:260:48:29

because we know one made £600 recently.

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But the technique used for painting these butterflies

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-and textiles, we said they were all hand-painted...

-That's right.

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..is known as pochoir.

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-And it is basically paint going through stencils.

-Pochoir.

0:48:410:48:44

-I'm excited, aren't you excited?

-I really am.

-Good.

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And I hope they go to a good home.

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And I hope you get the top end as well. You see, you can learn

0:48:490:48:52

so much on Flog It! I have learned something today. Pochoir.

0:48:520:48:55

-Never heard about before.

-No. Thank you very much.

0:48:550:48:57

And that's a great example.

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Well, I have to say, everybody has thoroughly enjoyed themselves

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here in the Museum of Science and Industry.

0:49:030:49:06

We've found some real gems.

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Sadly, it is time to say goodbye as we head over to the auction

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room in Knutsford, and put those last set of valuations to the test.

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Here is what is coming with us.

0:49:140:49:15

Robert bought this Inuit carving directly from an auction house

0:49:150:49:19

when no-one else wanted it.

0:49:190:49:21

Now, will it set the auction room alight this time or will it

0:49:210:49:24

be left out in the cold again?

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The English teapot is a classic design and, bought for just a fiver,

0:49:270:49:31

what return do you think Jim will make on his charity shop bargain?

0:49:310:49:36

And the owls cost Roy £350.

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Will they prove to be a wise investment?

0:49:410:49:43

And I can't wait to see

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if the 1924 butterfly book metamorphoses into big money.

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I chatted to auctioneer Nick Hall about the stunning pochoir album.

0:49:540:49:59

-Well, my favourite lot of the sale.

-Are they, really?

-Yes.

0:49:590:50:03

-They're beautiful.

-Kath's hand-coloured prints.

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-I mean, she was in the textiles industry.

-Was she?

0:50:070:50:09

When she left, she was given this. And if you look through the book,

0:50:090:50:12

you can see, it's not about butterflies.

0:50:120:50:14

-The inspiration was the colour of the butterfly.

-Absolutely, yeah.

0:50:140:50:18

-How it makes these wonderful patterns.

-It's incredible.

0:50:180:50:22

Now, she was offered £1,000 for these not so long ago.

0:50:220:50:24

-That was a fair offer.

-I would've taken it.

0:50:240:50:27

-Yeah, I think I would, actually.

-The people that have offered that

0:50:270:50:30

-sort of money are coming to the sale tomorrow.

-Yeah.

0:50:300:50:32

Obviously, we've marketed this online.

0:50:320:50:34

So hopefully, we'll have the right bidders here.

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-There'll be some competition.

-There'll be competition.

0:50:360:50:39

Whether we get that £1,000 she was offered, I don't know.

0:50:390:50:42

Hopefully, we'll get around about £600 to £800.

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I feel confident we'll get that.

0:50:450:50:47

-If everything is right in the world, Paul, they should do.

-Good luck.

0:50:470:50:50

-Thank you.

-But the world of the auction can be a cruel one.

0:50:500:50:54

Let's see whether the bidders are kind to our Inuit hunter.

0:50:540:50:57

Michael and I have just been joined by Robert,

0:50:570:51:00

who purchased this for £7.50 in an auction room in Dorset.

0:51:000:51:04

We're hoping to get around £150 to £200 for this Inuit carving.

0:51:040:51:08

It is a wonderful little fishermen, fishing away.

0:51:080:51:10

I absolutely love it.

0:51:100:51:12

I totally agree with Michael, it is

0:51:120:51:14

a really hard thing to put a date on.

0:51:140:51:16

Look for a bit of wear, but being stone, it's not that obvious.

0:51:160:51:19

-It doesn't acquire a pattern.

-No.

-As to value, I haven't got a clue.

-No.

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But what it does have is wonderful shape and form.

0:51:240:51:27

It has got a lot to it and I can see why you were attracted to that.

0:51:270:51:30

-If it doesn't sell, I'm quite happy to take it home.

-I don't blame you.

0:51:300:51:33

Let's find out what the bidders think.

0:51:330:51:35

They might have a different idea. We could be making a lot of money.

0:51:350:51:38

It is going into the hammer now.

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Lot 495.

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It's a mid-20th century Inuit figure.

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Rare things, these Inuit carvings. Where are we going to go?

0:51:450:51:48

Have we got the buyers here today? I wonder.

0:51:480:51:50

Start me, where, at £100? £100 for it somewhere, surely.

0:51:500:51:53

Bring me the 100. 80. 50.

0:51:530:51:55

Get the ball rolling at £50.

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Who's in at 50?

0:51:560:51:57

Who's bidding on this lot? 50 online, thank you. 50 on bid.

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Any of the phones coming in?

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Someone's having a nibble on the lot.

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Any of the phones coming in, yes or no? At 50.

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Five with you, thank you. Back on the phone now. At £55.

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-Would you have a phone bid if you were only going to bid £55?

-No.

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Quiet online. 60 against you. Five.

0:52:130:52:16

70. That's 70 here, at 70.

0:52:160:52:19

75. 80.

0:52:190:52:20

80 now. 80 on bid. At 80.

0:52:200:52:22

85 on the phone.

0:52:220:52:24

95 with me. I'll take 100.

0:52:240:52:26

That is 95 against you, phone bidder.

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It is yours at £100. The book's out.

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It's on the phone at £100.

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Any advance on £100?

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With you then, on the phones, at £100, and selling...

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-All sure and done? Last chance.

-Hammer's gone down, £100.

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That's not a bad return, is it?

0:52:420:52:43

We didn't get the top end, but for £7.50,

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we turned that into £100.

0:52:460:52:48

I'm glad our fisherman caught a new owner.

0:52:490:52:52

Now, high-calibre English silver.

0:52:520:52:54

Well, I've just been joined by Jim.

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And going under the hammer right now, we've got a silver drum teapot

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with a value of £150 to £200, a reserve of £100.

0:53:000:53:03

And all the money is going towards a trip, a trip of a lifetime.

0:53:030:53:06

-In fact, you're emigrating, aren't you?

-I am indeed.

0:53:060:53:09

Well, look, good luck with that.

0:53:090:53:11

-I hope so.

-He's off to South Africa. Why South Africa?

0:53:110:53:14

-That's where my partner comes from.

-Oh, right!

0:53:140:53:16

-We're going back to her roots.

-So you've been there?

-Oh, yeah,

0:53:160:53:18

-I've been there a few times.

-You'll be in safe hands,

0:53:180:53:21

-you'll be looked after.

-I hope so.

0:53:210:53:22

-Are you selling everything you own in this country?

-Everything.

0:53:220:53:25

Everything's got to go, and this is a start.

0:53:250:53:27

A silver drum teapot. Let's see what we can do.

0:53:270:53:30

Let's see if we can get a couple of hundred pounds.

0:53:300:53:32

It is going under the hammer now.

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Argyle-shaped teapot, classic Georgian design about it.

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Unmarked, but we think almost certainly will be silver.

0:53:370:53:41

Where are we going to go? Start me at 150 for it.

0:53:410:53:44

-Thanks, at 150.

-Yes!

0:53:440:53:46

-Silver dealers are there, you see?

-Any advance from 150?

0:53:460:53:49

At £150, the bids are in.

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On my left at 150. Any advance? 160 online. 170.

0:53:510:53:56

170 now. Gent in the room at 170.

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170. It is against you online, come on, give me another.

0:53:580:54:02

It is 170, yes or no? Is that it? Short and sweet.

0:54:020:54:05

The bid is on my left, in the room, at £170.

0:54:050:54:08

And selling...

0:54:080:54:10

-Yes! £170. That's OK, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Every penny helps.

0:54:100:54:14

Must be a nice feeling, actually, thinking everything in your life,

0:54:140:54:18

you'll sell, you want as much money for everything - the house, the car,

0:54:180:54:21

the possessions. Get on a plane with just a suitcase full of clothes

0:54:210:54:25

-and start a new life.

-And a big suitcase full of money.

0:54:250:54:28

And a big suitcase full of money, yeah.

0:54:280:54:30

Now, Roy's owls.

0:54:320:54:35

Something tells me Roy here has been doing a little bit of sort of

0:54:350:54:39

-buying and sort of selling, a bit of speculating?

-Yeah.

0:54:390:54:41

Three weeks before the valuation day,

0:54:410:54:43

-you purchased these two little silver owls.

-I did, yeah.

0:54:430:54:46

-For 300...?

-350.

0:54:460:54:48

Which was sensible money, I think. I think that's bang-on.

0:54:480:54:51

Let's just hope we get your money back and a little big of profit, OK?

0:54:510:54:54

-Yeah.

-OK, here we go. They're going under the hammer.

0:54:540:54:56

Lot 575 is a pair of hallmarked silver pepper pots

0:54:590:55:02

in the form of owls. These are rather fun, aren't they?

0:55:020:55:05

1952, '53.

0:55:050:55:07

Right, who's going to start me at £300?

0:55:070:55:09

-And a deathly silence fell.

-Come on!

-Yeah.

0:55:100:55:13

A couple of wise old owls over there.

0:55:130:55:15

Surely you'll start the bidding. 300?

0:55:150:55:17

Couple of hundred to start me, then.

0:55:170:55:19

Yes? 200, I have. At £200. 10.

0:55:190:55:21

220. 230, 40, 50, 60,

0:55:210:55:24

70. 280, 290, 300.

0:55:240:55:27

300, front row, I've got. At £300, right at the back.

0:55:270:55:30

At £300, only bid.

0:55:300:55:31

Right at the front, seated bid at £300.

0:55:310:55:34

-I said late Chester silver.

-I know.

0:55:340:55:36

..otherwise I'm selling them. At £300, front row

0:55:360:55:38

will take them, then, at 300.

0:55:380:55:41

-Cor, they struggled a bit.

-Yeah.

-Got them away, but...

0:55:420:55:45

-You've lost a little bit.

-Never mind. You learn.

0:55:450:55:48

You've had the joy of owning them, though, and you've learned, exactly.

0:55:480:55:52

And you can only learn by your knocks.

0:55:520:55:54

No-one in this industry is born an expert.

0:55:540:55:56

It's something you have to learn.

0:55:560:55:57

If all I'd lost, Paul, was the difference between

0:55:570:56:00

what Roy's paid and sold for, I'd be a happy man.

0:56:000:56:03

And finally, the French designer book of butterflies.

0:56:030:56:06

You told me at the valuation day you were offered £1,000 for

0:56:060:56:09

-this a few years ago.

-Yes.

0:56:090:56:11

Now, I've talked you into putting it into the sale, you know,

0:56:110:56:14

at a lot less than that, but I think...

0:56:140:56:16

I just think, you know, opening it up to the market,

0:56:160:56:19

letting the whole world know this is available, I think

0:56:190:56:23

we could get some better offers.

0:56:230:56:25

-Hopefully.

-Hopefully. So, any regrets?

0:56:250:56:28

Do you want to go through and sell this now?

0:56:280:56:30

No, I just hope somebody can appreciate it instead of it being

0:56:300:56:33

-wrapped up in brown paper in my wardrobe.

-OK.

0:56:330:56:35

So let's get on with the sale and see what this lot think. Good luck.

0:56:350:56:38

Fantastic album of illustrations, papillons,

0:56:400:56:44

the butterflies, by Eugene Alain Seguy.

0:56:440:56:47

I've got commission bids. We've got phone bids.

0:56:470:56:50

-I'm going to start straight in on reserve at 500 now.

-Yes.

0:56:500:56:53

At 500, on bid with me at five.

0:56:530:56:54

At five. I've got 20 where? Who's in next?

0:56:540:56:57

I've got five. I've got bids coming online.

0:56:570:56:59

At five... 20, 40, 60, 80. Six.

0:56:590:57:01

20, 40, 60, 80. Seven.

0:57:010:57:03

20, 40, 60, 80. Eight.

0:57:030:57:05

820, 840, 860, 880. Nine.

0:57:050:57:07

20, 40, 960, 980.

0:57:070:57:09

-1,000.

-We've done it.

0:57:090:57:11

-1,100.

-You're off 1,000.

0:57:110:57:14

-1,250.

-1,250.

-It's going online.

0:57:140:57:16

13. 1,350. 14. 15. 1,500.

0:57:160:57:19

-These butterflies are flying away!

-And 50. 1,700.

0:57:190:57:22

At £1,700, the bid is online at 1,700.

0:57:220:57:25

The phones haven't had a look in yet.

0:57:250:57:27

-We did the right thing putting it into auction.

-At 1,750.

0:57:270:57:30

-Still bidding on the phone?

-I'm going hot and cold.

0:57:300:57:32

At 1,850.

0:57:320:57:33

These butterflies are flying online at £1,850.

0:57:330:57:37

1,900. Still going.

0:57:370:57:39

-Don't stop there.

-I've got butterflies.

0:57:390:57:41

1,950. Let's round it up, make it two.

0:57:410:57:43

£2,000. The bid's online.

0:57:430:57:45

At £2,000.

0:57:450:57:47

Any advance on two?

0:57:470:57:48

At 2,050. 2,050.

0:57:480:57:51

2,100. At £2,100.

0:57:510:57:53

The bid is online still at 2,100. Commissions are out.

0:57:530:57:57

-The phones are out. It's online.

-Breathe.

0:57:570:57:59

2,150. 2,200.

0:57:590:58:01

At £2,200.

0:58:010:58:04

The bid is online. At £2,200.

0:58:040:58:06

Anyone in the room waiting to come in, now is your chance to shine.

0:58:060:58:09

It's 2,200 here. Who's in the room? Who's to bid? 2,250.

0:58:090:58:13

Anyone coming in against it?

0:58:130:58:15

-At 2,250. Online at 2,250.

-£2,250.

0:58:150:58:20

Any further bids? Last call, last chance.

0:58:200:58:23

Selling away now at £2,250...

0:58:230:58:26

All sure and done?

0:58:260:58:28

£2,250!

0:58:280:58:31

-And it is all yours!

-Yes!

-Obviously, there's commission to pay on that,

0:58:310:58:35

but, wow, what a result!

0:58:350:58:37

-What's going through your mind right now?

-I don't know.

0:58:370:58:41

-I'm blank.

-I bet you are. You are speechless!

-Yes, I am.

0:58:410:58:44

Oh, but you know what?

0:58:440:58:45

-We did do the right thing putting it into auction.

-Absolutely.

0:58:450:58:48

Well done. There's tears in your eyes.

0:58:480:58:50

What a way to end the show here.

0:58:500:58:51

I told you there'd be one or two surprises.

0:58:510:58:53

If you've got anything like that, we want to see it.

0:58:530:58:56

But until then, from Knutsford, it is goodbye

0:58:560:58:58

from one very happy Kath and myself.

0:58:580:59:00

Bye!

0:59:000:59:02

Paul Martin presents from the Museum of Science and Industry in the heart of Manchester with experts Anita Manning and Michael Baggott, where the team picks out a selection of antiques and collectibles to be sold at auction. The selection includes an Inuit carving, a French book of butterflies and a ship that sailed the China seas.

Paul chances upon a rare and beautiful art book that is hugely contested in the sale room.