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This vibrant, busy street is full

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of incredible stories and real treasures.

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But back in the early part of the 1970s,

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it was like any other high street in the United Kingdom.

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So what happened to change it so dramatically?

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Well, before we find out more, let's head over to our valuation day

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to find some treasures of our very own.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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Today, we are in Leicester, one of the most ethnically

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and culturally diverse cities in the UK.

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Residents hail from over 50 different countries.

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Home to our valuation day is the city's impressive De Montfort Hall,

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a venue which, over its 100-year history, has seen a vast

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range of acts gracing its stage,

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from Tina Turner to Frank Sinatra, as well as hosting Navratri.

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The Hindu festival celebrations here in Leicester are some

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of the most popular in the UK,

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and we are hoping to see a truly eclectic mix of treasures, too.

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While hundreds of people have already turned up,

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just look at this queue - it goes right out of the grounds.

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We're going to have a busy day today.

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And, hopefully, someone here has got something in these bags

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and boxes that is worth a small fortune.

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Who knows, we could even have our first millionaire.

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Let's make Flog It! history!

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Hoping to find the star items are our two eager experts -

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the battle-ready Claire Rawle...

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Beats the opposition over the head, yes.

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..and Catherine Southon, who is already hunting out the characters.

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-My honest opinion?

-No.

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You mean, no, you don't want my honest opinion?

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-Where is the nearest rubbish bin?

-No, don't do that.

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Whilst everyone takes their seats

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and the experts search out their items,

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here's what is coming up on today's show.

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We've got three very different lots, which hail from far-off lands.

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But which of these foreign finds will fly?

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Will it be this stunning mother-of-pearl Japanese panels?

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The tribal South Pacific club and spear?

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Or the very cosmopolitan French Dougal toy?

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We'll find out later, as these well-travelled items go under

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the hammer, hoping to find homes here, in Leicestershire.

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And it looks as though Catherine has one of those cosmopolitan items

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on her table right now.

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Bev, good to meet you.

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Nice little cardboard box you've brought here.

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-Shall we have a look inside?

-Yep.

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Dougal! Little Dougal from The Magic Roundabout.

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Although I remember him being more...

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-sort of a yellowy colour...

-That's right.

-..rather than sort of white.

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So, where did you get him from?

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My mum bought it from a white elephant sale.

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What had drawn her to it was the fact it was French.

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-It was written in French.

-Right.

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Because the lid of the box is all in French.

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I mean, it's a little bit worn.

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And here, it just does say the equivalent of The Magic Roundabout.

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And you have got the pictures there of the roundabout.

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And on the top, the name Pollux, which I think is Dougal.

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I think that actually was Dougal, which is lovely.

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But generally speaking, he's not in bad condition.

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I mean, the thing is, with this,

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because it has been in its original box, this rubber

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is all in lovely condition, cos it does, sort of, tend to...

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break up a little bit and it does tend to tear.

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Now, it was actually produced...

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The Magic Roundabout was produced in England

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and in France in the '60s, so, sort of, mid-'60s, 1965,

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but the fact that it is from France, it just makes it, to me,

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-it makes it a bit more interesting.

-Yeah.

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And the fact that it is white, as well...

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What are your thoughts on it being white?

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Um, I did my own research and, apparently,

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it started in France, The Magic Roundabout,

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-and Dougal was white.

-Right, OK.

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So, he could be an early Dougal.

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-It could be.

-You don't have a soft spot for old Dougal?

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No, because I think

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someone who collects Magic Roundabout toys,

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it would be nice for them to have something a bit different.

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Where does he live at home?

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-In the loft. With the spiders.

-No. It is time to move you on, Dougal.

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It is time to move you on to happier places.

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I'm not going to give you a big estimate on this, I'm afraid,

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Beverly. Um...

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-It's only going to be about £40 to £60.

-That's fine, yeah.

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-With a £30 reserve, is that all right?

-That that's absolutely fine.

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Do we know what your mum paid for it?

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-I doubt...

-Probably only a few pounds.

-I imagine it was pence.

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-Thanks, Bev, for coming along.

-That's OK. Thank you.

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-And I'll see you at the auction. Thank you.

-Thanks.

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-Hi, Sylvia.

-Hello.

-Good to see you. Glad you came along today.

-Yes.

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With your pencil box. What do you know?

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I mean, have you just dug this out of the back of a drawer?

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Um, yes, it's been in my cupboard a little while.

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We've had it in the family for at least 70 years.

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-You didn't use it, then?

-No, no.

-Didn't keep your pencils in it?

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-No, no, I didn't.

-You just thought, Flog It! is in town?

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Yes, cos my granddaughter is hoping to go off to college soon.

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And I thought, if it makes any money to help with her fees

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-for the equine course she is taking.

-Oh, right!

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-So, do you know where it came from?

-No, I've no idea where it came from.

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It's always been around.

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It dates from probably about 1910, 1915, something like that.

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It's actually made of papier-mache.

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And then it was lacquered, to give it this black finish.

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And then, originally, you would have had some lovely,

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bright gilt paintwork round the side.

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And then, this wonderful chrome

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and lithographic panel in the centre of the flight of the zeppelin,

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being hailed as flying. I mean, it was a new thing.

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-It must have been a fantastic thing to have seen.

-Yes.

-Really.

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There is some really enthusiastic collectors of airships

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and all things zeppelin out there,

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because there are, sorts of bits of memorabilia with them on.

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So this, I think, will appeal, just to add to somebody's collection.

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It is one of those quirky objects that,

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if you put a sensible estimate on it, especially with online bidding,

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it will get picked up and, I think, do quite well.

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-My feeling is you should look for between £40 and £60.

-Righty-o.

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And I'd put a discretionary reserve of 40, the lower estimate.

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-Does that sound all right?

-Yes.

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I think it might go higher. I have seen items with zeppelins go higher.

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But there's no point in frightening everyone else off.

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-So, if you are happy with that, we will go forward.

-Yes.

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-And, hopefully, help towards the equine studies.

-Yes, right.

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Fingers crossed we'll get a sky-high price for this quirky little item.

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'Queen of the skies, seen here from a Universal newsreel camera plane

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'as it sped over New York.'

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The zeppelin became the cutting-edge form of air travel

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at the end of the 19th century.

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Passengers were transported under an enormous, rigid,

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balloon-like structure, full of highly-flammable hydrogen gas.

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The space age looks and the excitement of the new

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made this form of transport highly popular.

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But in 1937, the German airship Hindenburg made

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a transatlantic flight which was to hasten the demise of the airship.

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Due to land in Lakehurst, New Jersey,

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the voyage ended in disaster.

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'The Hindenburg appeared a conquering giant of the sky,

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'but she proved a puny plaything in the mighty grip of fate.'

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As she attempted to dock, the airship burst into flames

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and 35 people lost their lives.

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This tragedy quickly changed people's opinions

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of these giants of the sky.

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And in a few years, the zeppelin's glory days were a distant memory.

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There are hundreds of people here today with interesting items

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they no longer want.

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But I have been thinking about the things which are the most

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precious to us, those we'd never get rid of.

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While the queue are waiting for their valuations,

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I've been asking them a rather tricky question.

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If you had to leave your family home within a matter of days

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and put one or two precious items in a suitcase, what would you choose?

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Would it be something sentimental, something valuable

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or something that you made that you cannot put a price on?

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I've got a little questionnaire for you, which I'm going to hand out.

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If you had to pick one item to take with you, what would you choose?

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-My son.

-Your son. You can't squeeze him into a suitcase.

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But think of an item, think of an object.

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-What can I win?

-Well, you can't win anything.

-You're absolutely crazy.

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Just fill in that and I'll come back to you and see what you say.

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So, whilst the queue ponders this poignant question,

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Catherine is valuing a silver tea set,

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which the owner is more than happy to part with.

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June, this is a lovely, little, shiny tea set that you have

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brought into Flog It! today.

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Tell me about it, where did you get it from?

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Well, it was an inheritance.

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And I very much appreciated being left it,

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but I'm afraid it has been sitting in the attic for about ten years.

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-Or more.

-You inherited it from...?

-From a friend.

-OK.

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-Silver is not quite your thing.

-It is not quite my thing.

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-China is a little bit more my cup of tea.

-Right.

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-My house is full of different china.

-Right, OK.

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Well, let's have a little look at this.

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I mean, it's very typical of the period, late Victorian,

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-with this, sort of, half-fluted design...

-Yes.

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..on the sugar bowl, the milk jug and also on the teapot.

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Now, I have had a little look at them.

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They have got slightly different dates.

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One is 1899 and the other two are slightly later, 1901.

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But they are all of that sort of period.

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And they do go together as a set.

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-Yes.

-Now, on it, it has some initials on the front,

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like interlocking initials, each piece,

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with an R and I can't quite make out the other initials.

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Do you know where they come from?

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I think they must've been family pieces.

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I'm quite sure that they had been passed down through the family.

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Right. It's nice that you have got this gilding inside, as well.

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It is really nice quality.

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I mean, the sad thing is, when people buy these today,

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-they are often scrapped, which is very sad.

-I know.

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But there is a nice lot of silver there,

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a good heavy weight of silver.

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And the value of it, as such, would be about £300 to £500.

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-Would it really?

-What do you think of that?

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That sounds a lot more than I was expecting, because this

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sort of thing is not really desired much these days, is it?

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Well, it's not. I mean, that's the thing,

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-you wouldn't use something like this today.

-No.

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You wouldn't really have it on your table when you have people around.

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I would put this in with an estimate of £300 to £500.

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And as you are quite happy to sell,

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we will put a reserve on of 250. How does that sound?

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-Yes, that sounds good.

-Are you happy with that?

-Yes.

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So I'll see you at the auction, in a couple of weeks' time, raring to go?

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-Yes.

-Does that sound good?

-It does, it just sounds the job.

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And I'm quite familiar with auctions.

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-I started my working life in an auctioneer's.

-Did you?

-Yes.

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Oh, right. Well, you will be well at home there, then, won't you?

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So June is pleased to let her tea set go.

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But what things do our crowd really want to hang onto?

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It's back to our questionnaire.

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Any more pieces of paper to hand back?

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Oh, thank you. Look at that, you have all been busy.

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Thanks very much.

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OK, there's about ten here. Let's look at some of the answers.

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My engagement ring.

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My fretwork clock.

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Photos of the family in lovely silver frames

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and one of the family tree.

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That's really, really nice.

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Oh, my train set.

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Toothbrush. Well, you can put that in your pocket, as well.

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It seems to me people are thinking practically and sentimentally, and

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not really value wise, which, in a way, is quite important, really.

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It is all about the sentiment.

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It is all about your heritage and hanging onto it

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and that sense of belonging, which you can't put a price on.

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For all of us here at the valuation day,

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this questionnaire is just a bit of fun,

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but for many of the Asian community who live in Leicester,

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this exact scenario was a frightening reality,

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one we will be finding out about a little bit later in the show.

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We've already seen hundreds of people

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and we're only halfway through the day.

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So, now it is time to make our first trip to the sale room.

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And here's a quick recap of what is up for grabs.

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Bev's French Dougal might not be the right colour, but Catherine's

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hoping this makes him rare and, thus, a must-have for collectors.

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Will Sylvia's zeppelin pencil box soar or will it leave

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the bidders deflated?

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And June's tea set is definitely worth its weight in gold.

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Well, silver actually.

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Let's hope our experts have got their valuations right.

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It's time to find out.

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Today's auction comes from Gildings, in the quiet market

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town of Market Harborough, which is in stark contrast to the colourful,

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multicultural city of Leicester, which is 16 miles up the road.

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But we're hoping for some hustle and bustle here today at auction.

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And remember, at all sales, there is commission to pay,

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and here at Gildings, the rate is 15%, plus VAT.

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Well, that is what I love to see -

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a jam-packed sale room, full of bidders and fine arts

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and antiques up for grabs. This is where it starts.

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We're putting our valuations to the test right now.

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Mark Gilding is on the rostrum.

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I'm going to catch up with our first owners.

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Let's get on with the show.

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Well, I've just been joined by Sylvia and Claire, our expert.

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-This is for the granddaughter?

-Yes, that's it.

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-So she's going off to study at college?

-Yes.

-An equine course?

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Yes, that's it.

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-Does she have horses herself?

-She has got one, yes.

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I blame the parents.

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-That's an expensive hobby, that one.

-It is.

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We need top end of the estimate. Let's put it to the test.

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What is it worth? We are going to find out.

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Here's a papier-mache pen box with a printed design of an airship.

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There we go, showing with Gary.

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Interesting little box, this one.

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A lot of interest on the book here.

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So, starting with me at £40.

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-£40, I'm bid.

-We are in, Sylvia, we are in.

-£40 bid. To 45.

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At £45?

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At 45. Now, £50, I'm bid. 50 on my book.

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Five, I will take.

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50 bid, then. The bid is with me still and selling at £50.

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-It's gone, £50.

-Lovely.

-Can I honestly say?

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Congratulations, anyway.

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And thank you for bringing that in. But it just sparked a little memory.

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One of the main reasons why I got into the antiques trade

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was my uncle was an antique dealer. He had a shop and, in his shop,

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he had a grand piano.

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But underneath the piano,

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he had one of the wheels from one of the zeppelin airships.

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And it was like a ship's wheel, it was massive thing.

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And I, accidentally, when I was a little young kiddie

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of about six or seven, walked over and I trod on it, and he said,

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"Don't touch that, that's from one of the zeppelins that flew over."

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He gave me this big lecture and,

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"Oh, that is a bit of history there."

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And, you know, in a way, he inspired me to get into this business,

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and it was all because the zeppelin and standing on that ship's wheel.

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-So, there you go.

-Yeah, lovely.

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So, now you know where my love of antiques comes from. Thanks, Uncle.

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And now for another memory from my childhood.

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If I said to you, "It's time for bed, Zebedee," boing!

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You'd know what was going on about.

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Yes, The Magic Roundabout. Beverly, you have put a smile on everybody's

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-face at the valuation day.

-Yes.

-You did.

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With your white Dougal.

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I didn't think Dougal was white, though.

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-No, we thought he was yellow.

-I thought he was yellow.

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-This one is white.

-Golden colour.

-This one is special.

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-Well, I like his little face.

-He's nice.

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He has got character, hasn't he?

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Grew up watching that, Magic Roundabout. It was great fun.

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Right, we're going to see what he is worth. And here we go.

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Good luck, Beverly.

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So what do we say for this, then? Well, you tell me.

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I'm going to start at £5 and you tell me what you want to pay.

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At £5. I'm bid only at five. Eight. Ten.

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12. 15. 18. 20. 22.

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£22, I'm bid now. 22. At 22. 25 do I see?

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Watching all carefully, make no mistake. 22.

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-And away, then, at 22.

-We're not selling, are we?

-They were mean.

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We were barking up the wrong tree.

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We didn't get that reserve.

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Never mind.

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Such a shame, but sometimes you can only find out how desirable

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something is by putting it under the hammer.

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Now, let's see if Catherine has any luck with her next lot.

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-You inherited this from a good old friend.

-Yes.

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And there is quite a lot of it here.

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We are talking a fair bit of money here.

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A fair bit of weight.

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Yeah, there is a bit of weight there, which is where the value is.

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Well, let's hope we are valuing this for its artistic merit rather

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than its scrap value,

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because, you know, this deserves to be saved, really.

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I'd feel happy if it wasn't scrapped.

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Well, fingers crossed it won't be. OK? June has a fascinating story.

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If this is sells, we will tell you about it in just a moment.

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But first, let's see some hammer action. Here we go.

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Late Victorian, three-piece, silver tea set.

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Sheffield, 1899 to 1901.

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The bidding opens with me here at £360.

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-Lovely.

-Well, we have sold it, haven't we? Straightaway.

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420 in the room now. At 420.

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And all my bids are lost here, at 420.

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There is no bidding in the room.

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420. And a quick sale, then, at 420.

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-£420. That was short and sweet.

-That was very quick.

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Sold on its artistic merits, I think. That was a good result.

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-It was, I'm very pleased.

-With the money...

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This is so interesting, I'm going to hand it over to you.

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Come on, tell me this story, because it is wonderful.

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I would like to spend some of it in going to Holland.

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56 years ago, I threw a bottle in the sea, in the English channel,

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and it was picked up about six weeks later on one

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of the Frisian Islands, the largest Frisian island, Texel,

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by a beachcomber. And we have been friends, corresponded ever since.

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I have been over there, he has been over here.

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But I heard earlier this year that he had died.

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And I thought that was the end of a nice friendship.

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But his son, who I hadn't seen for 41 years, has got in touch with me

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and has been over and wants to continue the association,

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-and invited me over. I'd like to go over.

-Isn't that fabulous?

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-It's an amazing story.

-That's a great story, isn't it?

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So you are going to use some of the money to go over.

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And visit over there.

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That's brilliant, that's absolutely brilliant.

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Well, that is our first set of items under the hammer.

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Now, while we were in the area filming,

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I've been off to the city of Leicester to find out what

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makes it so vibrant and culturally diverse.

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And, as I discovered, back in the 1970s,

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an unbelievable act changed this city for ever.

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In the early 1970s, Leicester was much like any other city

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in the Midlands.

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But in 1972, some 6,000 miles away, in Uganda,

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a landlocked country in East Africa,

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one man's political beliefs were about to have

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a lasting affect on this city.

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Idi Amin was the president of Uganda from 1971 to 1979.

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He was a ruthless dictator.

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And in 1972, he announced a shocking policy -

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Africanisation of the country.

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Asians made up only 1% of Uganda's population,

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but controlled 90% of its wealth.

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So, Amin wanted them out, to return the country

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and its economy to the Africans.

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Amin ordered the expulsion of a staggering 80,000 Asians

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from the country that they called home.

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He believed that they were Britain's responsibility, as Uganda

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had been ruled by the British.

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And that is why I said that the responsibility of Asians

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in Uganda, it is the responsibility of Great Britain.

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The Asian community was given just 90 days to leave Uganda

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and were only allowed to take one 30kg suitcase

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and £55 in their pocket.

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All of their other belongings they had to leave behind,

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from homes to businesses, jewellery to graves.

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Jafar was expelled from Uganda

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when he was a young man of just 21.

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Today, he is a prominent businessman.

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But his memories of Uganda are still vivid.

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I remember Uganda as a beautiful country.

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I lived in a small village called Masindi.

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My father had built up over, sort of, 30 years a very thriving

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hardware, DIY, building materials business.

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And in first week in September, Idi Amin announced from

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the barracks that he had a dream

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and that he has been asked to expel all the Asians from the country.

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When we heard this, we thought this was simply a joke

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and we started laughing. How will this country survive without us?

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The professionals, the doctors, lawyers, accountants.

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But as the days went by, you know, he became very serious.

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So we started thinking,

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"Look, let's prepare for our departure from the country."

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We had so much to bring and we could only bring what we could carry -

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clothing, some photographs.

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My mother had a lot of china, cutlery and crockery

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and so on, very expensive items there.

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But in the back of our minds, we were saying,

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"Look, does it matter what we carry?"

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All we cared for was our lives, really. Because it was so bad.

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Now, imagine having to pack all the important and sentimental things

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that you have gathered throughout your entire life into one suitcase.

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How impossible would that be to choose?

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I'd find that extremely difficult.

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Not only would you have to put in sentimental things that give

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you a sense of connection to your past and your homeland,

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but also things for the future to prepare you for this new life

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in the UK. A lot of people had preconceived ideas

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about what it would be like here.

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So, not only would you put something in that is a family heirloom,

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but also something practical, to keep you warm

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in the freezing cold winters here.

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Something like a blanket.

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Almost a third of those expelled from Uganda came to Leicester.

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And 40 years on, the city has collected together

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some of those precious items that they brought with them.

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These two gold pendants just there - that horse and that elephant -

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and that tiny little carved wooden giraffe belong to Nisha,

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who was a young girl, aged just nine,

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when her parents were expelled from Uganda.

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Nisha is very passionate about her heritage and that inspired

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her to set up this expedition here at the museum, which she works at.

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-And she is with me right now. Pleased to meet you.

-Hi.

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It must have been such an emotional thing to do, put this together.

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I think, yes, it was.

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And it is quite a big story for Leicester, so it was important to us.

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But once I got into it, it became very emotional because,

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you know, the story is about yourself.

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And how did other people in he community feel?

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Were they forthright in coming forth and saying,

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"Yes, you can have this?"

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I think they were forthright in wanting to talk to us,

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and there were very, very excited about it.

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But, I think, 40 years on, memories fade.

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And somehow, they wanted to glorify what had happened

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when they came here, so they wanted just the good memories,

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none of the sort of hardships they experienced when they came here.

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And how did you go about selecting which items you would use?

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Obviously, that was a hard decision by you, not just by the owners.

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I think it was difficult to get objects, because what people

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brought with them was very, very little.

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They weren't sure about giving it to us because...or lending it to us

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either, because these are things that were very precious to them.

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I can imagine you had to be quite selective.

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Can you pick on one or two?

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Um, I think the Katanga shirt behind you.

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And that brought back a lot of memories about people

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wearing them, people going to events with them,

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something that was quite meaningful and special to them.

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And then, the other thing is this, sort of, Ugandan passport,

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because you always link passports and things to identity.

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-Yes.

-And this is about you.

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And, actually, looking at that, the stir of emotions you felt

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and people felt, as well.

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-You went through that as a young girl.

-That's right.

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At nine. What were your particular memories?

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My parents, kind of, disguised it as "We're going to go to London,

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"we're going to go on a holiday."

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So, when we got here, I think, initially, the first week,

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was fascinating.

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You know, just going round London on the tube with my older sister.

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We spent a few days in London and then we moved to Leicester,

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because we have some family here.

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Nisha's world was turned upside down by the expulsion from Uganda.

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But for her family, Leicester soon became home

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and they thrived and prospered here, just as in Jafar.

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The image I had of England in my mind,

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cos I was still very young,

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was that it was a very wealthy country and I expected

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gold-plated buildings and, you know, a land of milk and honey.

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We all lived in one house, three-bedroom house,

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with five brothers, two sisters, mother and father.

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My father, he had to bring all the groceries, everything on the bus.

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When I used to see him standing at the bus stop,

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it used to make me cry because I used to see him

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in a chauffeur-driven car back at home.

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So we had some very difficult times the beginning.

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As we went along, we found jobs and made some money.

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Then we had cars and our houses and so on.

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But that was a long way away.

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Now, who would've thought some 40 years ago, one man's action,

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and thus the arrival of the Ugandan Asian community here in Leicester,

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would change this city into the vibrant,

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multicultural place that it is today -

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a city that can rival any other in the UK.

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Welcome back to De Montfort Hall.

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As you can see, it is still pretty much a full house down there.

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Let's now catch up with our experts

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and see what else we can find to take off to auction.

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And battle commences with Claire.

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-Wow, Linda, you are onto the teeth.

-Yes.

-These are amazing.

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So, tell me a bit about them, their history, how you got hold of them.

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Well, I don't know an awful lot about the history.

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All I know is that, when we were growing up at home, they were

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always hung up on the hallway.

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-We were always told never to touch them.

-Right.

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-You weren't allowed to play with them?

-No, no, no.

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-Beat each other up with them?

-No.

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So, where did they come from, then?

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I think my father got them from the war,

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brought them back from the war.

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-But we don't know, because he has died now.

-Oh, it is difficult.

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Where did he serve? What was his history in the war?

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He served in North Africa and Italy and Palestine, I think he went.

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Oh, OK.

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Unfortunately, we never asked him. And now I feel really...

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-Isn't that always the way?

-Yes, I know.

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You always think, "If only I could ask."

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Let that be a lesson to people. Ask! Write it down.

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But it's interesting that he served in Africa

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and then went through to Palestine,

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because these actually are a little bit further east again.

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-Yes.

-That one is from Fiji.

-Right.

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And that is Maori, from New Zealand.

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Originally, they would have been made for war.

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So, the one in your right hand is a Fijian club.

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Now, it is known as the gun stop club, because, obviously,

0:27:270:27:30

it looks a little bit like the stop of the gun.

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-Yes.

-That's the end, then, sort of, the barrel end would be down there.

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-I expect they're both quite solid and heavy?

-Yes, they are.

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-Is your arm getting tired?

-It is a bit.

-I'll leave you holding them.

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-Yes, they're made with a very dense wood.

-Yes.

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These two will date from about 1900.

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They are not hugely old, in terms of tribal art,

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that goes back over the centuries, but the way they are carved,

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they really caught my eye, because they are beautifully worked,

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especially the Maori one, where you get this very,

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very distinctive scrolling pattern.

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And again, with the Fijian work,

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it is almost like a, sort of, chip carving.

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I think they have both been carved in a very traditional

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form by a traditional carver, rather than mass-produced for a later

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tourist market.

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-Have you got any idea, at all, of price?

-No.

-Nothing, at all?

-No.

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In fact, we nearly didn't pick them up when we cleared the house out.

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-Oh, wow. For the two - I estimate 300 to 500.

-Oh, right.

0:28:250:28:30

-So, glad you picked them up.

-Yeah, lovely.

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I think that is a very sensible estimate.

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I think they will sell together,

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-because they are from the same region of the world.

-Yeah.

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And I think, put a reserve,

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perhaps just dip it under the lower estimate at 280,

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which I think is a very encouraging price for people.

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If they see a price like that, they will think, "We'll go for those,"

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which at the end of the day, is what you want them to do.

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-Lovely.

-So I think they'll do well.

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That was an interesting valuation.

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You see, you can learn so much from listening to our experts.

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Before we look at our next item we're going behind the scenes.

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This is Aubrey. Hi, Aubrey. One of our off screen valuers.

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We've got six working.

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They basically do a little bit of preliminary research.

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What have you found out?

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We've got three lovely little bits of Victorian jewellery here.

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Gold, turquoise and seed pearls.

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Really desirable and very saleable objects.

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Do you weigh the gold?

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Do you look at the pearls, to see if they're good seed pearls?

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Look for quality, look for craftsmanship?

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There's a number of factors. The weight of gold is an important one.

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Together with the quality of the stones - how well made they are.

0:29:300:29:33

And also, the appeal of them.

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Whether they are commercial and saleable items.

0:29:340:29:36

-Yeah, and these are good?

-They're really nice.

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You've got a lovely little pendant with a heart, which is always

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popular. Rings always do well. And then you've got a lovely brooch.

0:29:410:29:44

In your opinion, what do you think? 2-300?

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200-300, maybe towards the top end.

0:29:470:29:48

Our off screen experts work flat out behind the scenes on a busy day

0:29:480:29:52

like today. They could each be seeing up to 400 unique items,

0:29:520:29:56

making sure everyone who comes through the door

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gets a valuation and some insight into their objects.

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These guys are invaluable to our screen experts.

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Talking of which, next up, it's Catherine.

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Helena, this is a lovely collection of Tunbridge Ware you've got here.

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There are some really nice examples. Where did you get it all from?

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I've been collecting for many years.

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I suppose I started collecting in the 1950s.

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Some of them I got very cheaply, years ago.

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I wasn't earning very much money and now they just sit wrapped up

0:30:230:30:26

and I don't have them out.

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What made you start collecting Tunbridge Ware?

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I've always collected something.

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From a child, there's always been something.

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As a child, you were always...

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First of all, it was stamps and then scrapbooks.

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I always had lots of those things.

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-Of course, where's the one from Hastings?

-That one.

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You used to see all these sort of things. Presents from seaside places.

0:30:450:30:49

-They were souvenir pieces, really, weren't they?

-Yes.

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Most of what you have here is late 19th century.

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This is a lovely tea caddy. I love the domed lid. It's very attractive.

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All individual pieces.

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Slivers of different types of wood that have been glued together.

0:31:050:31:09

Are there any here that are real favourites for you?

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I suppose this is my favourite. Cos I know it's beautiful.

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The workmanship in it is fantastic.

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As I'm looking at it, I'm saying it's all Tunbridge Ware,

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but we've got three pieces which aren't.

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This is one that, sort of, stands out. Lovely little box.

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Blonde tortoiseshell veneer.

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But what I would probably do is sell it all together, as one lot.

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-Would you be happy to sell it together?

-Yes.

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That is the most valuable piece, as you probably know.

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And I would say, something like this, on its own, is probably

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worth about £60-£80.

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But I would sell them together in a group lot, for £300-£500,

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with a 300 fixed reserve.

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And let's hope you can move it on and maybe buy something else.

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-Something different to add to your collection.

-Yes.

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And so from one type of holiday souvenir to another

0:32:060:32:08

of a very different kind,

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but no less intricate in their craftsmanship.

0:32:100:32:12

Hello, Allison, Harry. Good to see you.

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Glad you came in with your lovely screen panels.

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What can you tell me about them?

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They belonged to my great aunt.

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I inherited them

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and they were hanging in my flat for the years I was there.

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Got married, about ten years later, we downsized

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and a lot of things ended up in a cold, damp shed,

0:32:330:32:39

-including these two ladies here.

-Right.

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-They're not really appropriate for my decor.

-OK.

0:32:430:32:47

So, when you had them originally they were not in these frames.

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-Were they just separate?

-They were together. They were hinged.

0:32:500:32:55

As I remember them, they were a screen,

0:32:550:32:58

-which stood on the floor.

-They're definitely Japanese.

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They'll date probably from the end of the 19th,

0:33:020:33:04

beginning of the 20th century,

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when so much stuff was coming out of Japan.

0:33:060:33:08

So many people had contacts over there, family.

0:33:080:33:11

Don't know whether any of your family were possibly linked

0:33:110:33:14

-over there?

-Possibly. My aunt was one of 13 so...

-Oh, my goodness.

0:33:140:33:19

So she had some brothers who were travelling,

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so perhaps they came back from there at some stage.

0:33:220:33:24

They would have been brought back as souvenirs

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and they were made for the export market.

0:33:260:33:28

They weren't made for home use.

0:33:280:33:30

So, basically, you have the two figures

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and these areas are all bone.

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And you can tell that because you have the brown flecks,

0:33:350:33:37

because bone has blood vessels in it.

0:33:370:33:39

So you have the brown flecks there.

0:33:390:33:41

And then you have the engraved decoration, which is then inked,

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to give it the detail.

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But when you come up to the face, you can see it's a much smoother,

0:33:460:33:49

more glossy finish to it. They are ivory,

0:33:490:33:53

to give the proper skin tone,

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so she doesn't look like she has nasty blemishes on her face.

0:33:550:33:59

And again, carved and inked and, because they're old,

0:33:590:34:03

definitely pre-1920s, let alone pre-1947,

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you haven't got any issues with selling the ivory.

0:34:060:34:10

Just to highlight it, the areas around the collars

0:34:100:34:14

and the sleeves, you've got shell.

0:34:140:34:16

Mother of pearl.

0:34:160:34:18

You can probably see the light coming off it,

0:34:180:34:21

giving it that lovely satiny look.

0:34:210:34:23

Amazingly, they're not in bad condition.

0:34:230:34:26

-You haven't enjoyed seeing them on the wall, Harry?

-Not really.

0:34:260:34:30

They don't suit where they were.

0:34:300:34:33

They don't go in your bedroom, either? Strange that(!)

0:34:330:34:37

Have you got any idea, at all? Thought about price?

0:34:370:34:40

-Absolutely none. Which is why we came along today.

-Excellent.

0:34:400:34:44

I would suggest putting an estimate of 200-400 on them and I'm

0:34:440:34:47

always keen on putting the reserve just below the lower estimate.

0:34:470:34:52

-So, perhaps, about 180?

-Yep.

0:34:520:34:54

So, having got the money for them,

0:34:540:34:56

any idea what you're going to put it towards?

0:34:560:34:59

-What did we decide?

-Harry, what would you do with it?

0:34:590:35:03

-I don't really know, to be honest.

-You don't buy stuff for yourself?

0:35:030:35:07

-Games.

-Games, yeah. Are you going to allow him to do that?

0:35:070:35:12

No, I think he knows that. It will go towards the garden.

0:35:120:35:15

What a brilliant day we've had here at De Montfort Hall,

0:35:200:35:23

our magnificent host location.

0:35:230:35:25

Everybody has thoroughly enjoyed themselves.

0:35:250:35:27

We found some real gems, but sadly it's time to say goodbye,

0:35:270:35:29

as we have unfinished business in the auction room.

0:35:290:35:32

We're going over to Gildings for the last time

0:35:320:35:34

and here's what's coming with us.

0:35:340:35:36

Will the tribal spear and club stand a fighting chance in the sale room

0:35:360:35:41

and, potentially, make the long trip back to their homeland?

0:35:410:35:44

Amazing that that little bit of holiday memorabilia can be

0:35:460:35:49

worth hundreds of pounds.

0:35:490:35:51

Fingers crossed, Helena's examples are no exception.

0:35:510:35:54

And there's no home for the Japanese panels at Allison's place.

0:35:570:36:00

They've even been kicked out of the shed!

0:36:000:36:02

But before we see the auction in action, it's time to find out

0:36:030:36:07

what auctioneer Mark Gilding thinks about the club and the spear.

0:36:070:36:10

On the auction preview day, I took the opportunity to pick his brain.

0:36:100:36:14

Look what we have here. Some ethnographica.

0:36:140:36:17

All of our experts are frightened to put a value on this kind of stuff.

0:36:170:36:21

Cos this is a minefield. It's so complicated.

0:36:210:36:24

You really do have to know what you're looking for.

0:36:240:36:26

And after what happened to poor old Michael, with our aboriginal

0:36:260:36:29

shield, you can get it wrong.

0:36:290:36:32

At £30,000 - going once.

0:36:330:36:37

Going twice, you're last chance on the internet, for 32,000.

0:36:370:36:41

Third and final time.

0:36:410:36:43

-Sold, £30,000.

-£30,000.

0:36:450:36:49

High-five.

0:36:510:36:54

Apologies. We can't be an expert on everything

0:36:540:36:58

and I thought I'd given it my best shot.

0:36:580:37:01

So, with this tricky field,

0:37:010:37:03

does Mark agree with Claire's valuation of £300-£500?

0:37:030:37:06

Auctions are all about competition.

0:37:070:37:10

And having two objects where people can really get stuck in

0:37:100:37:13

and battle it out,

0:37:130:37:15

that's where we can achieve towards the top end

0:37:150:37:19

-or above the estimate for the vendor.

-Good luck, anyway.

0:37:190:37:22

We're not talking 5-10 grand here,

0:37:220:37:25

but, hopefully, we're talking 500.

0:37:250:37:27

A few hundred pounds is a pretty good value.

0:37:270:37:29

We'll just have to wait and see.

0:37:300:37:32

But first up, it's those delicate Japanese geisha panels.

0:37:320:37:35

It's great to see you again, Allison.

0:37:370:37:38

-Have you been looking forward to this?

-Yes.

-And where's young Harry?

0:37:380:37:42

-He's at school.

-He's missing all the excitement of the auction.

0:37:420:37:46

This is where anything can happen. These could be highly sought after.

0:37:460:37:49

-We're looking at £200-£400.

-Yeah, we'll hope so.

0:37:490:37:52

That's a lot of money for something in a cold, damp shed.

0:37:520:37:55

-They look beautiful.

-They are beautiful.

-Beautifully framed.

0:37:550:37:58

Yes, they are. Let's see if we can find them a new home.

0:37:580:38:01

We're putting them to the test right now.

0:38:010:38:03

Japanese panels. Mounted and framed. Lots of bids here.

0:38:030:38:08

-Sounds promising.

-£40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120.

0:38:090:38:17

130, 140, 150, 160, 170.

0:38:170:38:22

175, I'm bid.

0:38:220:38:24

180, and all my bids are out now.

0:38:260:38:29

At 180. we're in the room. at 180.

0:38:290:38:32

180, in the room and selling, at 180.

0:38:320:38:36

Just under reserve. Bit of discretion. We got them away. £180.

0:38:380:38:42

-Fantastic.

-That's a good sound, isn't it? That sold sound.

0:38:420:38:46

-The mallet goes down. Yep, good?

-Delighted.

-Job done.

0:38:460:38:51

Some lots just scrape through by the skin of their teeth.

0:38:510:38:54

I would have liked a little bit more for those pretty things,

0:38:540:38:57

but that's auctions for you.

0:38:570:38:59

Our next owner, Helena, who has been collecting Tunbridge Ware since

0:39:000:39:03

the 1950s, sadly cannot be with us today, but we do have her items.

0:39:030:39:07

All wonderful bits of micro mosaic, made in Tunbridge Wells.

0:39:070:39:10

And we do have our lovely expert here, Catherine.

0:39:100:39:12

Who has put 300-500 on them, which I think is sensible.

0:39:120:39:16

I think it's a good estimate. And the thing is, it's a dealers lot.

0:39:160:39:20

Definitely. Here to be split up.

0:39:200:39:22

Hopefully, a couple of dealers are going to go for it. Split it up.

0:39:230:39:27

Make their money on the best pieces. Good luck.

0:39:270:39:30

Let's hope we get the top end. Here we go.

0:39:300:39:32

I really like this Tunbridge Ware. Casket-shaped tea caddy.

0:39:330:39:38

Bit of inlay. Nice little collection of stuff here.

0:39:380:39:41

Bids on my book are starting at £190. 200, 220, 240, 260, 280.

0:39:410:39:48

We're racing away.

0:39:480:39:49

-We've sold.

-300 I'm bid now. 340. I'll stay in 20s, 360.

0:39:490:39:56

-Helena will be pleased.

-She will.

0:39:560:39:58

380, online now. 400, online. New bidder.

0:39:580:40:02

You're out at the back. It's 400 online.

0:40:020:40:05

At £400, I'm bid. Fair warning.

0:40:060:40:08

The bid's with the internet and selling, at 400.

0:40:080:40:10

£400, the hammer has gone down.

0:40:100:40:14

Mid-estimate, that's OK. We're happy with it.

0:40:140:40:18

And I'm sure Helena will be.

0:40:180:40:20

That's more like it and, finally, let's see how

0:40:210:40:23

the club and the spear do.

0:40:230:40:25

Going under the hammer right now, we have a bit of ethnographica.

0:40:250:40:28

A Fijian club and a Maori ceremonial spear, belonging to Linda,

0:40:280:40:33

who cannot be with us, but we do have her sister.

0:40:330:40:36

-What's your name?

-Hilary.

-Pleased to meet you.

0:40:360:40:39

Thank you so much for standing in at the last minute. Where's Linda?

0:40:390:40:42

-What's she up to?

-She's on her holidays.

-Where's she gone?

-Nice.

0:40:420:40:47

To Nice. How lovely. Do you have any other brothers and sisters?

0:40:470:40:51

I have two brothers. They're going to share it, if they go.

0:40:510:40:54

I think they ought to go.

0:40:540:40:55

Although they haven't got huge age, the quality is there.

0:40:550:40:58

I think they were carved by craftsmen

0:40:580:41:00

and not made for the mass market, are they?

0:41:000:41:04

But, unfortunately, the money is in the history side of it.

0:41:040:41:06

The social history, which is lacking because they are fairly new.

0:41:060:41:10

That's the sad bit about it, but, nevertheless, £500,

0:41:100:41:12

an awful lot of money, if we get that.

0:41:120:41:15

-Yeah.

-Let's try, shall we? This is it.

0:41:150:41:18

Lovely carving on these. A bit of interest on the books.

0:41:190:41:22

Opening with me at 180, 190, 200, 210, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260,

0:41:220:41:29

270, 280.

0:41:290:41:31

It's totting up in the right direction.

0:41:310:41:34

Have you got that on the internet at 280? 290, 300.

0:41:340:41:38

320, 340, 360, 380, 400.

0:41:390:41:45

420.

0:41:450:41:46

500.

0:41:480:41:50

550, 600.

0:41:510:41:52

In the room at 600. 650, 700.

0:41:540:41:57

And 50. 800.

0:41:580:42:00

850, 900.

0:42:020:42:04

-And 50. 1,000.

-Oh, my God.

0:42:050:42:10

1,100.

0:42:100:42:12

1,200.

0:42:130:42:14

In the room at 1,200. 1,300 online.

0:42:140:42:18

1,400 online, 1,500 online.

0:42:180:42:20

You're out at the back, I'm afraid. We're 1,500 online.

0:42:200:42:23

1,600 new bidding.

0:42:250:42:27

1,600 bid.

0:42:290:42:30

At 1,600. 1,700 online.

0:42:320:42:34

1,800 I'm bid.

0:42:360:42:38

1,800.

0:42:390:42:41

At 1,800, fair warning, internet.

0:42:430:42:45

£1,800.

0:42:450:42:46

At 1,800, we're with a telephone bidder, this time, at £1,800.

0:42:460:42:52

That's what we like to see. That was a great result.

0:42:560:42:59

You'll have to ring your sister up and tell your brothers.

0:42:590:43:02

I think you'd rather be here than Nice right now?

0:43:020:43:05

You're seeing that little golden moment.

0:43:050:43:07

Thank you so much for bringing that in and well done.

0:43:070:43:10

-Thank you.

-That's what we like to see.

0:43:100:43:12

That's what an auction is all about.

0:43:120:43:14

People getting carried away and the price goes through the roof.

0:43:140:43:18

Join us for many more surprises next time, but sadly we have run out

0:43:180:43:21

of time in Market Harborough and, so, until the next time,

0:43:210:43:24

it's goodbye.

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