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# I left the North I travelled South

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# I found a tiny house And I can't help the way I feel... #

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Today, we've travelled to a city famous for its music scene.

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It's produced such great bands as New Order,

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Oasis and The Smiths, so let's hope we can add to that illustrious list

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as we hit the high notes right here in Manchester.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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Our valuation day venue is certainly making the right noises.

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We're at the Museum Of Science And Industry,

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a venue devoted to Manchester's glorious industrial past

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and the city's achievement in the world of science.

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The museum is situated on the site

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of the world's first railway station,

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and trains are still a big feature of the museum,

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with one still in operation.

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TRAIN WHISTLES

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As a music fan, it's really great to be here in Manchester.

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Everyone from The Hollies to Take That,

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Morrissey to The Stone Roses, originate from this patch of soil.

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The list of musical accolades seems endless

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and so does our queue here today.

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Let's hope our experts are in full voice.

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Joining me in the hunt for the finest antiques,

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it's the rhythmical Caroline Hawley.

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And the songbird herself, Anita Manning.

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A squeeze-box?

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And on the show today we transport you to the coast of Malta

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with this exquisite Mdina vase.

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It's signed and in perfect condition,

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so it could make huge money.

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And Caroline's with one of the biggest names in music.

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Well, his signature, at least.

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Who will it be?

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-Shall we turn it over and have a look?

-Yes.

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So, we'd better let the people in.

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We've squeezed hundreds of people in here today.

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Talking about squeezing, let's catch up with Anita Manning.

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Elaine, Steve, welcome to "Flog It!"

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I love this type of threepenny bit box.

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I was drawn to it and I know what's inside it.

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A wonderful little concertina. Tell me, where did you get it?

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My mother used to clean for an old chap next door to her,

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who was on his own, and I used to go in with her

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when I was four, five, six

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and my job was to clean all the brasses with Duraglit.

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-When you were just a tiny, wee girl?

-When I was just a little girl.

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And then when he died, apparently, he must have said to me mum,

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"Let Elaine have this,"

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and me brother got a piano accordion. I was seven.

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-So it's 54 years ago.

-So, are you musical?

-No!

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Steve, have you had a go at it?

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We've managed to get a few notes out of it, but, no, we can't play it.

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The dog runs a mile!

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I love concertinas. Let's pull it out and have a closer look at it.

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This is a Lachenal concertina.

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Lachenal was a London company

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and it was started by a Swiss man called Louis Lachenal in 1830.

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Went on for about 80 years

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and he was the most prolific of concertina makers.

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So about 40,000 of these were produced every year.

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So that's telling us something.

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They aren't the Rolls-Royce of concertinas.

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They're not the best of concertinas.

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So we've got to take that into consideration.

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We have a registration mark.

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Now, concertina enthusiasts love to see that,

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because that can tell us exactly the year that it was made.

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I know you've done a wee bit of research on this, Professor.

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Yes. I checked it online. There is a site you can go on to get

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a rough idea of the date and that one,

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-it works out roundabout 1875.

-1870s.

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-So it is an old one.

-It is an old one.

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It's got a good age about it.

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We have some losses here on the strapping.

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Yeah, we know, that's always been there.

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The collectors will take that into consideration.

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Let's put it to auction then,

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-let a collector have the opportunity of buying it.

-Yes.

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-We'll put it in with an estimate of £100-£200.

-That's fine.

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-Elaine, would you be happy with that?

-Yes, I will.

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-We'll put a reserve on it of £100.

-100, yeah. Right, let's go for it.

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-Shall we go for it?

-Yeah, let's go for it.

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Well, I like to think that this will play

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a fine and lovely and cheerful tune again.

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It'll be interesting. I'd love to hear it being played, I really would.

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I think the dog would, as well.

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ANITA PLAYS A FEW BUM NOTES

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Well, I don't think that was the sort of playing

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she was talking about, Anita. Next, more music history.

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Can you guess whose autograph Anne hunted down in 1963?

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-Hello, Anne.

-Hello.

-So, here we are in the Power Hall.

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And if I turn over this little invitation,

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there's the signature of a very powerful man in the world of music.

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-Shall we turn it over and have a look?

-Yes.

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Paul McCartney. I'm jealous.

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Tell me, Anne, how did you get Paul McCartney's signature on this card?

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In 1963, I went to a little club in Manchester called The Oasis

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and I was dancing to The Beatles.

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Obviously, it was before they became famous.

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And I just got his autograph.

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I could have got all the autographs, but I just chose him.

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-And it was a small club, was it?

-Yes. Yes.

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And they were playing and you were dancing away in your miniskirt?

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-Yeah.

-And your boots?

-Yes.

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-Kinky boots.

-Yes, probably.

-Fabulous!

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And do your remember the music they were playing?

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Oh, yeah, well, they had just made one record,

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I think it was Please Please Me.

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-And I know they sang Twist And Shout.

-Oh, did they?

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How exciting! And what's this, the ticket it's on?

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It's a Christmas party at the Grand Hotel.

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Yes, that was just in the December just before,

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-but I had that in my handbag at the time.

-So you whipped it out...

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-So I got it out, yeah.

-..ready for him to sign it for you.

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I didn't... You know, you don't think of getting autographs, do you?

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-You don't, no. Did you have any idea they were going to be huge?

-No, no.

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I'm sure this is priceless in some ways, but put a value on it we must.

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I think if we put a value of £80-£120.

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If we put a reserve on it, just to protect it. If we said £70 reserve?

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-That sounds fine.

-Discretionary, is that OK with you?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-If we get that, and I'm sure we will,

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-you will have something to Twist And Shout about!

-That's right.

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-Lovely.

-Have you still got your skirt and your boots?

-No, no.

-Oh!

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Autographs from names as big as Paul McCartney

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are sought the world over.

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Could a simple signature make more than £120? Find out later.

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So many people have travelled for miles to get here today,

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carrying unwanted antiques and collectables.

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Many of them are small, in handbags and carrier bags, but look at this.

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Look what's being opened now, look at that,

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a massive, great big suitcase on wheels. Let's be nosey.

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-Hello, there.

-Hello.

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I spotted you in the queue and I said, "Are you going on holiday?"

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-Oh, no, my towel's out, don't!

-What's your name?

-Tracey.

-Tracey.

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-Are you both here together?

-Yes.

-Are you sisters?

-No.

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Just good friends, just good friends. OK.

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Come on, let's get in there. Do you need a hand?

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-Oh, that's nice. It's a little inlay cabinet, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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With a bit of a brass inlay.

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Oh!

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-This is clingfilmed up now.

-Oh, that's nice. Look at that.

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A wonderful little serpentine front to it.

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THEY OOH

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Is this something you want to sell?

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-Yes.

-Well, it looks complete, as well, doesn't it?

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-So how did you come by this?

-I bought it from the internet.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-Just under 700.

-Just under?

-Yeah.

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-There is one thing, there's only 15 gilded glasses.

-Is there one missing?

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There is one, but it's not gilded.

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It's very impressive when you open the cabinet.

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It is, yeah, especially the little decanters decorated in gilt

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with the trailing grape and vine.

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You know, it's a nice little touch, it's a beautiful little touch.

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I just like this inlay.

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-It's a good interior piece.

-It's a very good interior piece.

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It has a serpentine top and a serpentine front.

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So it's quite stylish. So typical of the period.

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We could put it in with a value of £600 to £800

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with a reserve at six.

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-And hopefully it might make £1,000.

-Yeah.

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There's three experts here going, "Go on, go on, go on!"

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I just think it's very, very pretty. It's a nice piece.

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And if you're not using it at home

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and you don't know what to do with it.

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There's a lot of detail there. There's an awful lot of detail.

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Tracey bought the 19th-century decanters for £700,

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but she's happy to set the reserve at £600 in the hope

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that it'll make more money. Will the gamble pay off?

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Only one thing to do, take it off to auction.

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Also coming with us are the two musical items.

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Do you think the squeeze-box or the Paul McCartney autograph

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will reach number one in the sale room?

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Our auction today comes from Knutsford in Cheshire.

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The legend has it that King Canute forded the River Lily here

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in the 11th century, leading to the name Cunetesford or Knutsford.

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Five, I'm bid. 520. Phone's back in.

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Auctioneers Nick Hall and Peter Ashburner

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are sharing the rostrum today,

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selling 100 lots an hour in this busy sale room.

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While Anita and Caroline may look confident,

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their valuations are about to be put to the test.

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So the pressure is on.

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OK, going under the hammer right now,

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let's hope we hit the right notes with this concertina.

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It's a Lachenal, it belongs to Elaine,

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who sadly could not be with us today,

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but we do have our expert, Anita, and we do have the concertina.

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I thought a fair estimate was 100 to 200,

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-it wasn't in the best of condition.

-Strap's missing, isn't it?

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We really have to take that into consideration.

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I'm hoping it will do well.

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It was a little cheeky come and buy me, was it?

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-Fingers crossed.

-Fingers crossed.

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You see, you have been pushing the buttons, haven't you?

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And I hope Nick pushes the buttons with the bidders right now,

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because let's hand over to this packed saleroom. Here we go.

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It's the Lachenal & Co of London, 48-button concertina.

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I've got commission interest in this lot, as well.

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I'm going to come straight in at 70, 5

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80, 5, 90, 5, 100.

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At £100 I start. At £100.

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Bid for me at 100. Who's going to take 110? 110 online.

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120 in the room. 130, 140, at 140 now.

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Oh, it's slowed down a bit, hasn't it? Come on.

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160 now. 160 now.

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At £160. The bid's against you online at £160.

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170 is back in. 180 I have.

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On commission at 180. It's against you online. Try another.

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Come on.

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£190, commission's out. Room out. It's online.

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At £190, all done.

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-Spot on.

-That was just about the right estimate and the right price.

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Top end. Brilliant, brilliant. Elaine will be happy.

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-I think we should let her know, don't you?

-Yeah, I'm happy, too.

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No worries for Anita there, her first item was valued perfectly.

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She even said so herself!

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Well, so far, so good. Things have been flying out the door.

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This is where it could go horribly wrong.

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It's my turn to be the expert and I've just been joined by Tracey.

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How have you been since we saw you at the valuation day?

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Really good, thank you. Looking forward to it. Yeah.

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It's that wonderful decanter set with glasses. It is complete.

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One's wrong, though, isn't it?

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-One is slightly different.

-Yeah.

-You haven't come by yourself, have you?

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-No, I've come with my daughter, Jessica.

-She's over there.

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-There she is.

-Hiya.

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We need to find a new home for it.

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We're going to do that right now. This is it.

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A good quality 19th-century red and black lacquer

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travelling decanter set. Where will I go?

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Start me at 600. Five?

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Four, start me. Who's in at £400?

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Anywhere? Get the ball rolling at £400. Bid me now.

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Start me now at four. Four where? Where's four?

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Who will start the bidding at £400? Yes or no at 400?

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-It's not going to sell, is it?

-It's not going to sell, is it?

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Start me off at £400. Last call, last chance.

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Last opportunity for this lot at £400 to start me off.

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No interest, no bids.

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-It's got the wrong look, hasn't it?

-What a shame. Never mind.

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-I'm so sorry.

-Never mind.

-Gosh, that's auctions for you.

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I told you there'd be one or two surprises.

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I thought it would, you know, I thought I'd be bringing it home!

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Well, you can't win them all.

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Sometimes the bidders just aren't buying what you're selling,

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but it could all be different on another day.

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Now let's see if the collectors are more interested

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in the signature of one of music's greats.

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Well, our next item to go under the hammer is a real fab one

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and I do mean a fab one!

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Part of The Fab Four, Paul McCartney's autograph.

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-Fabulous. From The Oasis Club.

-In Manchester?

-Yes.

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-And they only played there two or three, four times, something like that?

-That's right.

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Now, you had the opportunity to get all four fab...

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-Could have done, yes.

-You missed it.

-Yes.

-What happened?

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Well, I only liked Paul McCartney at the time.

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-Oh, I bet you wish you liked all four of them now, don't you?

-I did.

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You're in good company,

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-cos there's a lot of pop and rock memorabilia here today.

-Yes, I noticed that.

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I can't wait to see this, let's get a number one smash hit with this.

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Going under the hammer now.

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Lot 260, a Paul McCartney signature from 1963,

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signed on the back of a ticket stub.

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-I can start the bidding at £130. Any advance?

-Wow.

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Love Me Do!

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140, 150. 160, 170, 180,

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190, 200, 210. 210.

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Here on commission at 210, 230 online,

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-240 on commission...

-240!

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240, 250, 260.

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260, 270.

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280, all online. 290, 300,

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320, 320 online.

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At 320. 330 on commission.

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At 330, is a commission bid. Anybody more?

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At 340, 340 online,

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commissions are out. At £340. It's on the internet.

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At £340, anybody got more?

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At 340, I am selling at £340.

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-Yes!

-£340.

-Yes!

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What's really nice about that signature

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is you can actually date the date

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with the ticket on the reverse side.

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And that's what it's all about.

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-It's the social history of what was going on there and then.

-Exactly.

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One of only four times they played there, and you were there.

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-You were that girl.

-What a great result.

-Brilliant.

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What a good result. Are you happy with that?

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-I thought it would be about 70.

-Oh, no!

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£340 for just two words.

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That's how important our musical legacy is to some collectors.

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And whilst The Beatles put Liverpool on the map,

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Manchester also has a great reputation for music.

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So I couldn't come here and spend a few days here filming

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without finding out what makes this place

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have such a chart-topping success.

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# Once upon a time, not too long ago

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# We took a day out in Manchester

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# We all fall down

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# There's not enough hours in a day... #

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Manchester's musical history is unique.

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It spans genres and generations.

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It's created movements in pop and rock

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that have swept right through the nation.

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But how can so much talent come from one place?

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And how is Manchester able to repeat that trick time and time again?

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Well, to find out, let's take it from the top.

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Our journey through Manchester's music history

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starts long before the rock 'n' roll revolution.

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In the 18th century, when the Industrial Revolution

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started to paint the town black, the emerging middle classes

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had an increasing appetite for the arts

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and so they were entertained with classical concerts

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by amateur musicians.

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This gentlemen's orchestra became a fixture in the city

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over the next century under the leadership

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of German-born Charles Halle.

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The first Halle concert was held at the Free Trade Hall

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on January 30th, 1858.

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Thus becoming one of Britain's first professional symphony orchestras.

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Until 1895, Sir Charles Halle conducted

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almost every concert in the city.

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His orchestra still plays today to international acclaim.

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Perhaps Charles Halle was Manchester's first music legend.

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Classical concerts and amateur folk music

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could be heard throughout Manchester well into the 20th century.

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But it was the Second World War

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that really upped the tempo of Manchester's musical heartbeat.

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American troops were based all over the city during the '40s

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and they brought with them American style, American lingo

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and the American sounds of the day.

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The troops gave out free records to the locals

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and soon young people were tapping their feet to RnB, jazz

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and the sounds of black America.

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This coincided with the rise of the teenager,

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and these newly liberated teens wanted a place of their own,

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their own fashions and their own music.

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And for the baby-boomers of Manchester,

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the jukebox played the soundtrack of their lives and the coffee bars

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in the city were a place where they could just hang out and

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dance to their own music,

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away from the constraints of the older generation.

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Out of these coffee bars sprang the first nightclubs,

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where young people in Manchester

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could listen to their favourite music all night long.

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Legendary club, The Twisted Wheel, was the place

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and it gave birth to a home-grown genre that took its influences

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from America,

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but which is unmistakably Manchester and it's still going strong today.

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I'm being joined by Ivor Abadi, who opened the club in 1963.

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Something extraordinary happened in the '60s.

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It was the young 16 and 17-year-olds, the baby boom,

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after the war and they suddenly wanted a place to go to.

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I recognised that from five years earlier.

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With my brother Jack and Phillip, we came to 1962

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and then we found this basement in Brasenose Street

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and we opened it up. It was a coffee-dance club and

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-unbelievably it was successful from day one.

-Tell me about the music.

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We didn't want to play very commercial...

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Like The Beatles, The Kinks? Stuff that was happening...

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Yeah. We didn't really... We played The Beatles,

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-but we wouldn't be playing too much of The Kinks.

-You're obviously playing a lot of blues,

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everybody wanted to hear blues, but it started to get into soul.

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-Absolutely.

-And that's when it really kicked off?

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Well, blues was sort of The Graham Bond Organisation,

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-which you may have heard of.

-I have, yeah.

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Sonny Boy Williamson, playing his harmonica.

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But from the blues, it slowly moved

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into something a bit more Tamla Motown and soul music

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with all the American acts that we brought over, as well.

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Towards the late '60s, The Twisted Wheel DJs

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played a particular style of soul

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that had a quick tempo and a heavy beat.

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The tracks went down a storm and a craze swept the nation.

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Just define to me what is northern soul

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and where did it originate?

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The term was coined, I think, by Dave Godin from Blues & Soul magazine

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and he came up from London and was just astounded at the atmosphere

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and the mood in the club.

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And he, you know, in his big article called A Thousand Dances,

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I think it was, called it northern soul,

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as in distinguishing between what was going on in London.

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I mean, people from all around, you know, Manchester

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really gravitated to this club.

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People came from all over the north-west and further afield.

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They came from Yorkshire. They even came from London, you know.

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-Sure, it was a big thing.

-We had coaches coming from London.

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And it was... The atmosphere was theirs.

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It was a sort of social scene. A fantastic time.

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You mention The Twisted Wheel to anybody and...

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Anyone in Manchester will have been. Not necessarily a regular,

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but everyone would have been once or twice.

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Throughout the '60s, Manchester was alive with music

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from home-grown talent like Herman's Hermits

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and Freddie And The Dreamers,

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having a string of top 10 hits and there were over 200 clubs

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in Greater Manchester to dance the night away in.

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But the Swinging Sixties didn't last for ever.

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Manchester in the mid-1970s was suffering as a post-industrial city.

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Its glorious past was just a distant memory.

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But whilst there was a backdrop

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of economic hardship and cultural malaise,

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the spirit in Manchester lived on with another flourish of music.

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The legendary Tony Wilson co-founded

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one of the most successful record labels in British history.

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Factory Records brought the country huge bands such as Joy Division...

0:22:480:22:53

# Radio, live transmission... #

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..New Order...

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# How does it feel... #

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..and the Happy Mondays...

0:23:050:23:07

# Hallelujah, hallelujah, Not sent to save ya... #

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..who kick-started a musical movement that put Manchester

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back on the map.

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And here's the late Tony Wilson.

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'The history of rock 'n' roll is a history of small cities.'

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And these cities have three years in the sun.

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For nearly 20 years, Manchester was THE music city in the world.

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These bands gave Manchester a sense of confidence and a new identity.

0:23:350:23:39

It provoked pride and inspired generations

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to bang the drum of musical expression.

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So what can we look forward to next?

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Well, it's impossible to predict.

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But if you want my opinion, whatever it is,

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it's going to be brilliant,

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because the appeal of Manchester for its musicians is

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there's an audience here that's ready to embrace them

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and they want to hear the next big thing.

0:24:030:24:06

Now it's back to our very own joy division,

0:24:120:24:14

the valuation day at MOSI.

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Later in the show,

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I'll be looking at some of the stunning artwork

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from Factory Records and three more lucky people

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get their item valued by our on-screen experts.

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First, it's David Sugden.

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When I see this, it brings to mind seas of azure blue,

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blue skies, wonderful climes.

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Tell me, what do you know about this?

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Well, I know a little bit.

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-It's a Michael Harris piece that was...

-The Magic Man Of Mdina.

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Indeed. My parents brought it back.

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Manufactured in Malta in the late '60s

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and he did sign a very few early models that he made

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and that is a signed, authentic edition.

0:25:010:25:04

-I am excited. That is a wonderful, wonderful piece.

-Indeed.

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The colours are evocative of the seas around Malta.

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Its name is a Fish Vase. As you can see, it's the shape of a fish.

0:25:130:25:17

Beautiful colouring and, as you rightly say,

0:25:170:25:21

it's signed on the bottom - "Michael Harris, Mdina, Malta."

0:25:210:25:26

He studied at the London School Of Art, but was frustrated by it

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so left to form the Mdina Glass Company in Malta in 1968.

0:25:310:25:37

-So, as you said, this is an early piece.

-Yes.

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This is the biggest size that he made, which does make a difference.

0:25:400:25:45

-And the magic name means everything. And the magic signature.

-Absolutely.

0:25:450:25:48

So it means he either made this himself

0:25:480:25:51

or he was overseeing someone that made it. He was there, right on it.

0:25:510:25:55

-Quite special then.

-It is. It's very special, yeah.

0:25:550:25:58

Do you have any idea of value?

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Not really, no. I'd like to think it was worth something significant.

0:26:010:26:05

What would you do with this significant sum?

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Well, the family are having a holiday in the Dordogne

0:26:090:26:12

-later this year.

-How nice.

-It would go towards that.

0:26:120:26:15

Right. Well, I would think,

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because of all the things we've talked about -

0:26:170:26:20

the size, the signature, magic name -

0:26:200:26:23

I would think it would be £600-£800, easily.

0:26:230:26:28

-Really?

-Absolutely easily.

-That's rather nice.

0:26:280:26:31

Yeah, that would get you to the Dordogne and...

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-It would help an awful lot!

-..a few bottles of wine when you're there!

0:26:330:26:36

-Yes.

-We'll put a reserve on it.

-Yes.

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I don't think we need to because I think this,

0:26:380:26:41

as soon as this hits the saleroom,

0:26:410:26:42

-there is going to be so much interest...

-Really?

0:26:420:26:44

-..this is going to fly.

-Wow.

-Yeah, it is.

-I'm delighted.

0:26:440:26:48

-Good, I'm so pleased. So we'll put a fixed reserve, £600...

-Yes.

0:26:480:26:53

-And it'll go. It's magic.

-Indeed. Thank you so much.

-It's a pleasure.

0:26:530:26:58

Thank you so much for bringing it.

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Well, you've made my day with that. Thank you indeed.

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It's all in the name with antiques

0:27:040:27:06

and this vase has a top signature etched on his bottom.

0:27:060:27:10

Next, Anita's found one of her personal favourites.

0:27:100:27:12

Helen, this is a great wee set of Victorian jewellery.

0:27:130:27:17

And it's in its original box. Did you inherit this?

0:27:170:27:22

No, no, it was a surprise gift from my husband for my birthday.

0:27:220:27:26

Quite a long time ago. My 50th birthday.

0:27:260:27:30

-Couldn't have been all that long a time ago!

-Oh, it was, I assure you.

0:27:300:27:34

-Did you wear it?

-I did once or twice.

0:27:340:27:37

But every time I wore it, he told me to be careful not to lose any of it

0:27:370:27:42

and I got so scared that I might lose it that I stopped wearing it.

0:27:420:27:47

See men?

0:27:470:27:49

-Yes.

-I think that these are very bonny pieces. They're all matching.

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If we look at the locket, these are Victorian.

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They'll be in the area of about 1880.

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If we look at the back, we see that there is a compartment,

0:28:040:28:09

which would have contained, at some point, a locket of hair.

0:28:090:28:14

So it's in commemoration of a loved one.

0:28:140:28:17

If we look here, we can see the Birmingham hallmark.

0:28:170:28:21

Now Birmingham was famous, throughout Victorian times

0:28:210:28:25

and even up to these days, for the manufacture of small silver items.

0:28:250:28:32

So it's quite nice to see that.

0:28:320:28:34

I think one of the best selling points in this, Helen,

0:28:340:28:38

is the fact that we have this matching set.

0:28:380:28:42

Now the Victorians loved that.

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They loved things to be in harmony.

0:28:440:28:46

And having a pendant, a brooch and the earrings,

0:28:460:28:50

having all your set complete, is an added selling point to that.

0:28:500:28:56

It's quite ornately decorated, and that's quite nice, as well.

0:28:560:29:01

The Victorians loved over-the-top decoration.

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It being a present from your husband,

0:29:050:29:07

do you think he is going to object to you selling it?

0:29:070:29:11

I don't think so, no.

0:29:110:29:13

-I think he would say it was mine so I could do what I wanted with it.

-Yes.

0:29:130:29:18

Going to auction, I think I would put an estimate...

0:29:180:29:22

And I'm considering that there are three pieces, brooch, pendant

0:29:220:29:26

and earrings, it is silver...

0:29:260:29:29

-I would still like to keep it in the region of £60-£80.

-Right.

0:29:290:29:34

-Would you be happy for it to go in at that price?

-Yes. Yes.

0:29:340:29:37

It will find its own level, but we will put a reserve of £60

0:29:370:29:42

and give the auctioneer maybe a wee bit of discretion.

0:29:420:29:45

-Yes, yes.

-I think it's lovely

0:29:450:29:47

and thank you very much for bringing it along.

0:29:470:29:49

Thank you very much.

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A great example of Victorian jewellery.

0:29:520:29:55

And now, I get a chance to get a look

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at some Factory Records archive

0:29:580:30:00

that's on loan to the museum from Tony Wilson's estate

0:30:000:30:03

and talk to archivist and fan Jan Hicks.

0:30:030:30:06

The artwork we have got here is by Peter Saville,

0:30:060:30:08

who was one of the early directors of the company.

0:30:080:30:11

He was new out of art college, he came along to one of the nights at

0:30:110:30:14

the Russell Club and said, I'm going to make you a poster, basically.

0:30:140:30:18

-And from then on, he was the in-house designer.

-Was he?

0:30:180:30:21

I can see who has inspired him. John Ruskin.

0:30:210:30:24

You look at this, look at that beech leaf floating down, late autumn.

0:30:240:30:28

Painting nature as you see it, beautiful objects meant to be

0:30:280:30:32

enjoyed and meant to look like what they are.

0:30:320:30:34

-You can see that's John Ruskin all over.

-Yes, you can.

0:30:340:30:36

What does Factory Records mean to you and people like you?

0:30:360:30:39

Factory is an important record label for people from Manchester

0:30:390:30:43

because it really put Manchester back on the map after a long

0:30:430:30:45

period of industrial decline and depression in the city.

0:30:450:30:49

It really kick-started the creative industries in Manchester.

0:30:490:30:52

And Tony Wilson described it as the second Industrial Revolution.

0:30:520:30:56

It was a new way of doing things.

0:30:560:30:58

You didn't have to go to London, you could come from Manchester and go

0:30:580:31:01

anywhere and say, "I'm from Manchester,"

0:31:010:31:03

and everybody knew the different bands that were on Factory

0:31:030:31:05

and they knew about the Hacienda.

0:31:050:31:07

So it was a real sense of pride and creativity in the city.

0:31:070:31:11

What is your favourite memory,

0:31:110:31:13

what was the band that you really loved to see?

0:31:130:31:15

-The band I really loved was Happy Mondays.

-Was it?

-Yes!

0:31:150:31:18

I adored Happy Mondays. I just loved everything about them.

0:31:180:31:20

# Hallelujah... #

0:31:200:31:26

But it's all gone quiet in the Textiles Gallery where

0:31:260:31:29

Caroline has found her last item of the day.

0:31:290:31:31

Tell me, what do you know about these?

0:31:310:31:34

Well, actually, when I bought them, about 40 years ago,

0:31:340:31:38

I didn't know anything about them. I bought them from an antiques fair.

0:31:380:31:41

Probably paid about £20 for them, something like that.

0:31:410:31:45

I didn't know what they were until just recently,

0:31:450:31:47

I saw them in a book and the book explained what they were.

0:31:470:31:52

And they are supposed to be burial mirrors to ward away evil spirits.

0:31:520:31:56

That's really all I know about them, really.

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So I was hoping that I would come here today

0:31:590:32:02

and find out a little more about them.

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That is exactly right, they are late 18th-century Chinese.

0:32:030:32:07

And they would have been beautifully polished, on the back here.

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And you are quite right, they were used to bury the dead with,

0:32:130:32:17

to ward off evil spirits in the afterlife.

0:32:170:32:20

But they were also worn in life.

0:32:200:32:23

If you look closely, this fabulous working in here.

0:32:230:32:26

There is a little hole through this middle bit here and that

0:32:260:32:30

would be to thread silk through and it would be worn on your garment.

0:32:300:32:35

So you would have one, two of them,

0:32:350:32:38

and it would ward off evil spirits in life, in the here and now.

0:32:380:32:42

They are cast bronze

0:32:420:32:43

and there is a lot of interest in oriental things at the moment.

0:32:430:32:47

-So people collect this sort of thing?

-Yes, people will collect them.

-OK.

0:32:470:32:50

-Now, you have obviously enjoyed these all these years.

-Yes, I have.

0:32:500:32:55

-Have they been in a display case or something?

-Yes, they have, actually.

0:32:550:32:58

But this one here, this one we used to use as an ashtray at home...

0:32:580:33:02

-As a what?!

-An ashtray, yes.

0:33:020:33:05

-There is probably a little bit of ash in there still.

-Oh, no!

0:33:050:33:09

-It's too good for an ashtray.

-I know, but we didn't know, then.

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We see quite a few of them. They are not uncommon.

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And the values range from £100-£1,000, depending

0:33:160:33:20

on the detail, the quality and the size, to a lesser or greater extent.

0:33:200:33:25

These, I would think, are worth £200-£300 for the two.

0:33:250:33:30

-That's nice!

-It is. It is. And you paid what, £20?

0:33:300:33:34

-It would be nice if they were worth £1,000 each!

-It would, it would.

0:33:340:33:37

If we put a reserve of £200, are you happy with that?

0:33:370:33:40

-Yes, I am, that's fine.

-Great. So we will see if they are...

0:33:400:33:44

-if they are magic when we taken to auction.

-Right. Thank you.

0:33:440:33:47

Well, there you are. That's it.

0:33:530:33:54

Our experts have now found their final items.

0:33:540:33:56

So it is time to say goodbye to our valuation day venue,

0:33:560:33:59

Manchester's Museum of Science and Industry.

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We have had a marvellous time here and we have learned so much.

0:34:020:34:05

But right now, it's full steam ahead

0:34:050:34:07

to Marshalls auction rooms in Knutsford.

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And here is what is coming with us.

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Will the exquisite Mdina vase be as sought-after as Caroline thought?

0:34:130:34:17

We will have to wait and see.

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And the Victorian jewellery may not be to everyone's taste,

0:34:210:34:24

but there is always a market for a complete set in its original box.

0:34:240:34:29

Caroline has valued these Chinese mirrors at £200-£300.

0:34:310:34:35

Will the auction house agree?

0:34:350:34:37

Well, it's back to Knutsford and auctioneer Nick Hall has

0:34:430:34:46

something to tell me about those mirrors.

0:34:460:34:48

Geoff's little Chinese mirrors. Now, we have got £200-£300 on these.

0:34:490:34:53

They came in as Chinese, late-18th century.

0:34:530:34:58

We have had a close look at them

0:34:580:34:59

and consulted with our head of Asian Department, Dr Worrall.

0:34:590:35:03

They are in fact 19th-century Japanese copies

0:35:030:35:07

of Chinese originals.

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If they were Chinese, they would be archaic, ie Tang Dynasty

0:35:090:35:13

and 1,000 years old.

0:35:130:35:15

But these are of a known type of replica made by the Japanese...

0:35:150:35:19

-Made to fool the tourist market.

-Made to fool them, right.

0:35:190:35:22

So these have been seen before, that's how we know, obviously.

0:35:220:35:25

Yes, they are of a known type that is around.

0:35:250:35:27

-So this obviously affects the value, does it?

-Yes, well, it does.

0:35:270:35:30

Funnily enough,

0:35:300:35:31

-I think the value is probably right.

-£200-£300?

0:35:310:35:34

But they are nice things, they will still appeal to the Asian market.

0:35:340:35:38

But I think nearer the £200 mark is about where we have to get.

0:35:380:35:42

Fingers crossed. The estimate is still right.

0:35:420:35:44

Hopefully we will get that top end, £300 plus,

0:35:440:35:46

because I think they still are very collectable, aren't they?

0:35:460:35:50

They are, lovely, lovely things.

0:35:500:35:52

It took an Oriental specialist

0:35:520:35:53

to notice the different origin of the mirrors.

0:35:530:35:56

Even experts like Caroline can't get it right every time.

0:35:560:35:59

A little disappointing.

0:35:590:36:01

They have turned out to be Japanese reproductions,

0:36:010:36:04

or copies of the earlier Chinese ones.

0:36:040:36:07

But there is still a lot of interest,

0:36:070:36:08

so I haven't lost hope of those.

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I think they are going to be all right.

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Well, we will find out in just a minute.

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And going under the hammer right now, we have a complete box set

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of earrings, brooch and necklace, belonging to Ellen.

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And I think this is a real little gem. It is ready to go.

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It is ready as a gift.

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Still in a beautiful box and the whole set is complete

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and in good condition. You have cherished it, haven't you?

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-I have, yes.

-And you did wear it, didn't you?

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-I did, yes. I have worn it.

-But the fashions change, don't they?

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-They do, yes.

-So hopefully, someone will think actually,

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this is a nice little gift set to give somebody.

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But it is also something that a collector will buy

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because it is high Victorian. And it is in its original box.

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Birmingham, isn't it? 1882, something like that?

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And it's just an example, a good example of the type

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-of jewellery that women wore at that time.

-Good luck.

-Thank you.

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We're going to put it under the hammer, now. See what happens.

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305 is the Victorian boxed silver pendant, brooch and earring set.

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Hallmarked for Birmingham 1882.

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Who is going to open the bidding at £60 for me? £60?

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-Come on, it's worth that any day of the week.

-£60 for this lot?

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Down to 50. I got 40. £40 I am bid.

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At 40... Take five? At 45. 50.

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Shakes his head already.

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At £50, any advance on 50, take another five, surely? 55 online.

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At 55 online, I am going to sell at 55.

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Any advance now on 55?

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-It's gone.

-He used a little bit of discretion.

-He did.

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-Just a little bit.

-Yes, yes.

-Are you happy with that?

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-You didn't want it any more?

-No. Well, I didn't wear it.

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And it was just in the drawer,

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so...I might as well get something that I do wear.

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And someone else will get the pleasure of your sale, Ellen.

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Going under the hammer

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we have got those two lovely Chinese bronze mirrors.

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Well, we thought they were Chinese, but they are Japanese.

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After a bit more research.

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And they are later than we thought, they are not 18th-century,

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Yes, late 19th-century, early 20th-century copies.

0:38:050:38:07

-Oh, Japanese!

-Yes!

-I thought they were Chinese.

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Copied, copied from the original Chinese earlier ones.

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So they have got the same symbols, they are just a century later.

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But I think they will still sell.

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Yes, and I had a chat to Nick, the auctioneer, yesterday.

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And he said actually the value is spot on. It won't affect the value.

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-OK, good. Good.

-But we are still in with the money, there. Good luck.

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Fingers crossed. Let's find out what they are worth. Here we go.

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Nice quality, nicely cast, good bit of patination.

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19th-century Japanese mirrors. Where are we going to go? £200 for them?

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£200? 150? 100? Come on, who is in? 100 I have, thank you. 100 I am bid.

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-I've got 110...

-It's a start.

-Straight in and out. That was quick.

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-110 I have got, then. 120. 130. 140.

-On, come on.

-140 is the bid.

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Nothing online? I have got 140, 150 online. 160, 160 I am bid.

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-At 160 now. At 160. Any advance on 170?

-Come on!

-It's creeping up.

-180.

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Against you, online.

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-At 180. 190.

-We are nearly there.

-Yes.

-I've got £190 online.

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I think that's all. 190, the bid is online. I am selling at 190.

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Make no mistake, the hammer is going down.

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-It has gone.

-That was all right.

-That was close!

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That was close, wasn't it?

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Oh, the things you do to get on TV!

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Nick Hall used his auctioneer's discretion to let them go at £190.

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So from magic mirrors to the magic man of Mdina.

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Right, if I said Mdina, you would say yes,

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the Silent City in Malta, but what about the glass? Hmm?

0:39:380:39:41

We have got a nice piece here, the fish.

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-The fish vase, brought in by David. Made in Malta, wasn't it?

-Indeed.

0:39:440:39:48

Yes, yes. So why are you selling this?

0:39:480:39:51

Well, parents bought it from Malta many years ago. Late '60s.

0:39:510:39:55

-Yes.

-I have no real interest in it,

0:39:550:39:58

so we have got grandchildren we're taking on holiday to the Dordogne...

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So that money is going to come in handy!

0:40:020:40:04

-And it is a wonderful signed piece, Michael Harris, the magic name.

-Yes.

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And the colours are reminiscent of the beautiful Mediterranean

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-coastline.

-And you can see on that moulded glass,

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the waves that almost attach...

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-You kind of want to dive in.

-Yes, it's lovely.

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It's going under the hammer right now. So good luck. This is it.

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It is the impressive Michael Harris,

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for Mdina, glass vase in the fish shape.

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Unusually and rarely signed by Michael Harris as well.

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We do have some commission interest, we do have a phone bid.

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I'm going to come straight in at a lowly £300.

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I have to start at 300 only. On commission at 300.

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At three, at three. Who is coming in next? Three with me. At 300.

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At 320 online. 340 against you. It's 320.

0:40:460:40:49

-This makes you a bit panicky, doesn't it?

-Just a little.

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380, 380 now. At 380, any advance on 380? Four. 420. It is online at 420.

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440. At 440. At 440, the bid is online at 440. 460. At 460.

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480. It is climbing, slowly online. Any advance on 480? Five I have.

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-£500 in on the phone.

-The phone has joined the party now.

0:41:120:41:16

-Oh, yes.

-The phone and the internet. 540. At 540, now. We are creeping...

0:41:160:41:21

-We are just going to do this.

-We have got to do it!

-560.

0:41:210:41:24

-560 here now. At 580, 580, the phone has it. At 580.

-Come on!

0:41:240:41:31

-Try another online. 600, there we go! Online at £600.

-Yes!

-620.

0:41:310:41:35

Back on the phone again. At 620 now. At 620. The bid is on the phone.

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At £620. 640. 640 here. 660 now.

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Back on the phone again at 660. At 660 phone bidder holds it.

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At 660 it is against you online. All on the phone. At 660 I sell.

0:41:490:41:54

-Yes. That was brilliant fun. Wasn't that great fun?

-It was good fun.

0:41:540:41:58

It was good fun, watching you almost thinking, "Oh, no,"

0:41:580:42:01

-and then all of a sudden, yes! Wasn't that great?

-Yes.

0:42:010:42:04

I thought it was more exciting watching you!

0:42:040:42:06

I thought you had a baby then! Yes!

0:42:060:42:09

-Relief, really.

-Yes, a lot of money.

-Dordogne. Here you go.

-Here you go.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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There is Isabel and there is Becca and her little brother Charlie,

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the grandchildren, who are all going to go this year. To the Dordogne.

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Well, enjoy this moment, won't you?

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Because Granddad has done you all proud. And have a fabulous holiday.

0:42:270:42:30

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

-And thank you.

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Well, that's it. It's all over.

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Another day in the auction room for "Flog It!".

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Some highs and some lows. But that is what it's all about.

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You can never predict what it is worth in the saleroom.

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So until the next time, from Knutsford, goodbye.

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