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Meet Oakham, he's a rare Suffolk Punch horse.

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They're known as Suffolks for short.

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And if you haven't guessed where the show is coming from today,

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the clue is in the name.

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And I don't mean Oakham. Welcome to 'Flog It!'

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Today's valuations come from Ickworth House,

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which I'm sure you've guessed is in Suffolk.

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Ickworth is an Italianate palace built for the extravagant

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Hervey family - the Marquises of Bristol.

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Created in 1795,

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the Hervey family were surrounded by a community of staff

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and villagers, who made the estate a self-sustaining

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way of life for nearly 200 years.

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Now a Grade I listed building, the National Trust look after

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the house and the estate for all of us to enjoy today.

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And they've certainly got their work cut out today.

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We've got a wonderful crowd that have turned up,

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laden with antiques and collectibles.

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All hoping they're one of the lucky ones to go through to the

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auction later on in the programme.

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But before that can happen,

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our two experts have to get busy with those stickers.

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I'll give you a yellow sticker.

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Can we have a look in your bag, see what we've brought along?

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-What colour are you, yellow?

-Yellow today, look.

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I can see more than four or five yellow stickers from here.

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I've been up early.

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We've got the ever-eager Will Axon...

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Right, the late arrivals at the back of the queue.

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What was it, lie-in today, was it, this morning?

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What have we got? Come and show me your treasure.

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And the equally industrious Adam Partridge.

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Anyone fancy a pinch of snuff?

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THEY LAUGH

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-Go on, then.

-No chance!

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Today 'Flog It!' have the run of Ickworth,

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with valuations taking place within the West Wing,

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inside the splendour of the rotunda and amongst the Italianate gardens.

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So, what are we waiting for? Let's get everybody in.

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On today's show we've got two unloved items.

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He saw it and took a bit of a gamble on it,

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and paid far too much, I think.

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You've brought along this lovely glass vase.

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Whatever you say. SHE LAUGHS

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-You don't like it?

-I don't like it.

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50, I'll take five.

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But which one will raise the roof over in Yorkshire?

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Yep.

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LAUGHTER

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He's just wanting to steal the show, isn't he?

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You'll just have to wait and see.

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Fingers crossed, everybody. I hope you have a great day.

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As you can see, everybody's safely seated inside the West Wing

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which, at one stage, was used by the Hervey family to play squash in.

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The 4th Marques installed the court.

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Right now it's time to catch up with our experts

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and get on with the valuing.

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And talking of the Marques of Bristol, we are

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heading over first to the elegant surroundings of the rotunda,

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where the Hervey family are watching over Will Axon in the dining room.

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Colin, I've been reliably informed that the 4th Marques,

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who is hanging on the wall down behind us there,

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had a Wolseley Super Six in his garage.

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But I think what he should have had is the old Mercedes Kompressor.

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I mean, it's quite a bit of kit, isn't it?

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-Yep.

-Tell me, are you a toy collector?

-Yes, I do like my toys.

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I go to the car boots and have a look about. Get what I can.

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-So you are a car booter?

-Yeah, definitely.

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-Ever going to auctions to buy?

-No, I haven't been to auctions yet.

-OK.

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My initial thought was that it was a Schuco clockwork car.

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But it's not.

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-I suppose it's pronounced Gescha.

-Yeah, Gescha.

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The firm was established in Germany, in Nuremberg, circa 1923.

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That sort of period. As we always say with toys,

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the box is as important almost as the toy that's in it.

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So you've got the original box, which is nice.

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Let's call it a little bit scuffed.

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It's certainly not in mint condition, is it?

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Let's open it up and see what's inside.

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-Look at that, the car inside is in lovely condition.

-Yeah.

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And I see here as well in the box we've got the original key,

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that's always nice to have as well.

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This is a bit of fun as well. The old sort of starting grid.

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-Yeah, a pit board starting grid.

-Yeah, a pit board starting grid.

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With a few names there, probably F1 drivers at the time.

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-At the time, yeah.

-Campbell - that's Malcolm, I think.

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-Is it Donald's father?

-Yes.

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Fagioli, we all know an Italian racing car driver, don't we?

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I imagine he would have been in the Ferrari, not the Mercedes.

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-Yeah, I should imagine so.

-We know you got it from a car boot.

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I'm going to be cheeky and find out how much you paid for it.

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-Tell me, go on.

-The grand sum of five pounds.

-Oh, dear, a bluey.

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-You had to pull a bluey out, did you?

-Yeah, a bluey out, yeah.

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I did try and knock them down but they were not going to have it.

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I would say, on your fiver, let's stick a nought on the end.

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-How do you think a sort of £50-£80 as an estimate?

-Yeah.

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-Yeah, you happy with that?

-Yeah, 50 to 80.

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-Let's reserve it at that £50, yeah?

-Yeah.

-Good.

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-I tell you what, does it work?

-Yeah, it works fine. It's fine.

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Let's have a look. Hang on, let me get this key.

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If I give it a wind up...

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I won't wind it up too much, because I don't want it to do

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is go flying through that door, into the library

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-and knock over the priceless vase.

-Nor do I.

-Exactly, yeah.

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It's still yours, you are liable for this. I'm doing it under duress.

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Let's pop her on the carpet and off you go, Mercedes.

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TYRES SCREECH

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Phew! No damage caused.

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It's a bit more dent-proof over in the West Wing,

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where Adam has found some reassuringly robust silverware.

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-Well, Jackie, what a lovely set of bonbon dishes here.

-They are.

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-Now, tell me, where did you get them from?

-They were my grandmother's.

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But they've been in the family for a long time.

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-They have, haven't they? I think they are delightful.

-Yes.

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-And they are nice quality as well.

-They are unusual.

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They are very nicely worked. I'll just pick one up.

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Some of these are paper-thin.

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These ones, I'm putting force on them there

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and they are not bending an inch. So they are quality.

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They are nicely worked, pierced and embossed.

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They are by a decent firm of makers.

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There is a D&F on the bottom, which stands for Deacon and Francis.

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Which was a Birmingham manufacturer. The date letter there is for 1891.

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-Right.

-They are lovely. And you've got a set of six.

-Yes.

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-In the original case. Do you use them at all?

-No. No.

-Why not?

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The occasion doesn't really arise to put them out now.

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I think you've put your finger on it there

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because people don't really use them.

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And you're not going to think, oh, I must get those out the side board,

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those six silver dishes, and fill them up with things.

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Which is a great shame. It would be nice to get them out.

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You need other things to go with them.

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-You know, beautiful glasses, beautiful china.

-You are quite right.

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But clearly, they have

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-some sentimental value as well, don't they?

-They do.

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-Down to the price then.

-OK.

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We've had our off-screen valuers look at them.

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-They've told me £150-£200.

-Mm-hmm.

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-Definitely.

-Not enough, is it?

-No, no.

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-I think they will make about £300.

-OK.

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-How does that fit with your expectations?

-Yes, that's better.

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-Better?

-Much better, yeah.

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I'd like to put an estimate of £200-£300 to encourage interest.

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-What do you think about that?

-Yep, that would be fine.

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What's the very minimum you think you'd take for them?

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-250.

-Yeah, I think that's sensible.

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In which case, we'll have to put the bottom estimate at 250

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because you cannot mislead people. £250-£300.

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-And they go on the internet?

-Oh, yeah. Photographs on the internet.

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-I shall make sure of it.

-Good.

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What would you do with the money if it made £300?

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Well... My son is getting married next year.

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-Oh! Congratulations!

-Yeah, so...

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-A trip up there, I guess.

-OK. A wedding next year.

-Yes.

-Very good.

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-And you are happy about that, I presume?

-I am, yes.

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-Good choice, has he made a good choice?

-Oh, yes, she's lovely.

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I'll be very happy to call her daughter-in-law.

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Oh, good! What a lovely story. And thanks very much for coming.

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-You are very welcome.

-OK.

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Now, behind the cameras on evaluation day, there's

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a whole team of 'Flog It!' crew making it all happen.

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But what happened behind-the-scenes in a stately home?

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The history of Ickworth isn't just restricted

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to the grand rooms upstairs.

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We all know life was just as busy below stairs.

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Where I am now would have been the busiest part of the house.

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It connects the main kitchen to all the little service stations

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that you can see here.

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Stations were preparing food, game cupboards, dough bins,

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dairy areas, cold storage, you name it, it's all here.

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You can just imagine, can't you, scullery maids, chambermaids,

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footmen - all under the watchful eye of the housekeeper and the butler.

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So, in an orderly fashion,

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let's make our way to the sunshine of the pleasure grounds.

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Well, Georgie,

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we are standing in this wonderful garden before this 18th-century

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Italian-inspired rotunda, which is quite something, isn't it?

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And you've brought along something that's been

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inspired by a culture on the other side of the world.

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Why don't we open it up

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and show everyone at home what you've brought in today.

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A rather special, I think, travelling easel clock.

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Where does it come from?

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We only found it when my parents passed away

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-and we had to sort the place out.

-Yes.

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We found it in the wardrobe or drawer, I can't remember.

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So it's never been out on display, you don't remember it?

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-Don't remember it at all.

-No?

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-Do you have any idea where your parents got it from?

-No.

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The only thing I could think of is that

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-it's possibly from their parents.

-OK.

-My grandparents.

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Because it's actually got a rather good pedigree, shall we say.

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We've got a mark here on the inside of the cover -

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Callow of Mount Street in Mayfair. Really top-class retailers.

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I mean, you're talking, you know, this is where

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the moneyed folk went to buy their goods.

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And then, the clock itself, it's certainly striking, isn't it?

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I mean, this is what we call chinoiserie decoration,

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inspired by the sort of Western interpretation of Chinese designs,

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very popular around the time of this clock, circa 1920, should we say.

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You've got this shagreen background. Shagreen is ray skin.

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It's an expensive material - it's a sign of quality.

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Then you've got this rather fine lacquering.

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You can see it is almost proud of the surface, it's 3-D.

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That's just a building up of layers of lacquer

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that takes some time and certainly skill.

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Then you've got this faux bamboo border.

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Which, again, is just a little touch that lifts it above the rest.

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Georgie, your parents obviously didn't think much of it,

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-cos they had it tucked away.

-Mm-hmm.

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Tell me, do you like it?

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-I'm not sure, really.

-You haven't made your mind up?

-No. No.

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-Maybe when I tell you what it's worth.

-Possibly.

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SHE LAUGHS

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I'm going to try and see

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if I can get it into sale with an estimate straddling that £200 mark.

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-OK.

-Could we say £150-£250 as an estimate?

-Yes.

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-You are happy with that?

-Yep.

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Let's have a bit of confidence on my valuation

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-and fix the reserve at 150, what do you think?

-Yep, that's fine.

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Georgie, it's really nice for you to bring this along to us today.

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All that's left now is for Elizabeth to do her job on the rostrum

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-and hopefully get it away at the auction.

-Yeah.

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-Georgie, thanks very much.

-Thank you. Thank you.

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Up until 1914, the 4th Marques employed over 50 staff

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here at Ickworth House.

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Before we head off to auction,

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I want to show you one of the two back staircases that the

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servants would have used to move around the house unseen.

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Hip baths were still used in the bedrooms right up until 1910.

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The servants had to carry hot and cold water up

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and down these stairs to service them.

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Nowadays the stairs are still in use by the National Trust staff

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and, of course, me. But right now, we are heading off to auction.

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Here's a quick re-cap of what's going under the hammer.

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I'm sure this 1950s clockwork racing car will get off to a flying

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start in the auction room.

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Adam disagreed with the off-screen valuation

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and put a higher estimate on these bonbon dishes.

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Let's see if he's right.

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Georgie's travelling clock truly is a work of art.

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Will it bring in the chinoiserie collectors?

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We've jumped over the county boundary into Norfolk, to the

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historic market town of Diss, for today's auction at TW Gaze.

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There is already a good crowd browsing the saleroom.

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But before the bedlam of the auction, I caught up with

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today's auctioneer, veteran 'Flog It!' expert Elizabeth Talbot.

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I've got one particularly favourite lot that I want to show you, really.

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-OK.

-It's the bright red Mercedes sports car.

-Oh!

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-And it's not your one parked outside.

-Mine is a green one.

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-It's this one here.

-Oh, yes.

-I think that is tremendous.

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And I think it's a bargain at 50 quid.

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I think this is a little gem, actually,

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because not only is it in lovely condition, and with its box,

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but I have never seen one personally with its little scorecard.

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-I think for a collector that is just...

-It's a must-have.

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-Yeah, absolutely.

-That's a must-have.

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Colin paid a fiver for that.

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I'd like to buy that for a fiver. I really would.

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-I'd give him a profit right now.

-Yes, it's a super little piece.

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Albeit 1950s, but I think there's a nostalgic thing about it.

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I think increasingly there is a lot of coverage about 1950s racing

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memorabilia at the moment. And that fits beautifully into that era.

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-And it looks iconic, doesn't it? It really does.

-Yes.

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Yeah, well, good luck with that.

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Now it's time to see how Colin's little gem fares

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as the auction gets under way.

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Unfortunately, Colin is a bit poorly today,

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but his car is in pole position.

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Vroom, vroom, we're all revved up, aren't we?

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-Yes, ready to go.

-It's just a shame Colin cannot be with us.

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He couldn't make the sale

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but we do have his little red Mercedes sports car.

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-A sweet little thing.

-It's boxed, it's complete.

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And if it was mine, I would not be selling it.

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Now, it's sweet, isn't it?

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-I wouldn't mind scaling it up for the real thing. Imagine that.

-PAUL LAUGHS

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This is lovely. A boxed 1950s German clockwork Mercedes Kompressor.

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Start me at 50.

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-50 straight in.

-Oh, good.

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Gallery at 50. I'll take the five. Surely must go further than that.

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At £50. Where is five?

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60. Five. 70.

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£70, looking for five now.

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70 in the gallery. At 70. Any advance on £70?

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Anybody else can join in at 70. It's a lovely collector's item.

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-Gone. £70.

-He'll be pleased with that.

-Spot on.

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-Well done, Will.

-Thank you. I hope he gets better soon.

-So do I.

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I hope he enjoyed his little moment watching it.

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Well, it was certainly a healthy profit for a £5 outlay.

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How much 21st century interest will there be for a silver set from 1891?

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-Good luck, Jackie.

-Thank you.

-Every penny will help.

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All the money is going towards some flights up to

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-Scotland for your son's wedding.

-That's right.

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Congratulations. I think it's going to be a brilliant day.

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-We're selling six silver bonbon dishes.

-Yes.

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Adam has just said we should get £50 per item.

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-Yes, I think so. They are a proper matching set, in a case.

-Boxed.

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Very nice. If they don't sell today, I'll be amazed.

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We have a set of six silver bonbon dishes

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with pierce and scroll detail.

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There is good interest here. I start at £160.

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They are worth more than that.

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170, 180. 190 Gallery. 200.

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210. 220.

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230. 240.

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250 now in the gallery. It's 250 above.

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The gentleman has bid at 250. Are you all done?

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It comes as a bit of a shock, doesn't it?

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It's fast and furious in an auction room.

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It's like... Blink and you'll miss it.

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-Yeah.

-OK, we're £50 short of our golden target of £300,

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-but, look, they have gone.

-They have gone.

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And that's the main thing.

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-I think we valued them right on the money there.

-Sure.

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-I've got a real thing about silver.

-Job done.

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THEY LAUGH

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Up next is Georgie's superb travel clock from the 1920s.

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Why are you selling this?

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I found it when we were sorting out Mum and Dad's place.

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-It's been sitting in the drawer ever since.

-Fingers crossed, here we go.

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The early 20th century Callow of Mount Street in Mayfair

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chinoiserie travel clock.

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I start at £100. 110. 120. 130. 140.

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150...

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Right, we're in.

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At 150, a quality piece. 160. 170. 180.

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190. 190 in the middle. 200 in gallery. 210.

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220. 230.

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Downstairs at 230. Where is 40? It's 230, middle bid. Any advance on 230?

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-240, new bidder.

-New bidder altogether.

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260.

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300. Fine, £300.

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£300 in the middle bid now. £300. The lady is out.

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Any advance on the £300?

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Yes, hammer has gone down! £300. Top end.

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-Well done.

-That's good. Well done, you, for bringing it.

-Yes.

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-Goodness me.

-That was a nice surprise, wasn't it?

-It was.

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£300, nice round figure.

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She thought she was going to take it home. I told you no, it's away.

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-Georgie, it's gone.

-I know. Ooh!

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I think Georgie can't quite believe it. A great result.

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That's it, that concludes our first visit to the auction room today.

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We are coming back later on in the programme.

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Now, the wonderful thing about salerooms like this is,

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we're surrounded by fine art and antiques.

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It's all here to be sold. Which means it gets a new lease of life.

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It's not consigned to the past.

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And that's exactly what a group of volunteers are doing with

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a very important part of Suffolk's regional history.

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And it also plays a major part with Ickworth's history as well,

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as I found out. Take a look at this.

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When the 1st Earl of Bristol inherited the Ickworth

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Estate in 1701, the Italianate palace hadn't been built.

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At the time, the family could only afford to enhance the park

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and create the walled garden.

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When eventually the family did find the funds to start building

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the house - nearly 100 years later -

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they chose a site much further up the hill.

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Quite a distance from the walled garden,

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whose produce was needed to feed the family, staff and guests.

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The head gardener would telephone the cook

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and the housekeeper daily to find out what produce was required.

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And also, what colour dinner service was going to be used.

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Then he would pick the appropriate vegetables

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and fruit and the right coloured flowers to match the dinner service.

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And all this would be sent up to the house. How did it get there?

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Well, with the help from a very hard worker.

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And that hard worker was a Suffolk Punch horse called Kitty.

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In the 1920s, Kitty hauled produce from the walled garden

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up to the house every day.

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Fred Astridge, whose uncle worked in the gardens, remembered Kitty well.

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She was the most gentle creature that you could ever wish to meet.

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And she became a 15-year friend of mine. I loved her.

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And I never failed when I'd walk through the garden to stick

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a couple of windfalls in my pocket, walk round Kitty's paddock,

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and Kitty knew straightaway when I was there.

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She'd come and push her muzzle into my pocket.

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I used to take the apples out and give them to her.

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Suffolk Punch horses, or Suffolks for short, hold a unique

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place in the history of the county after which they are named.

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Once in widespread use, today they are extremely endangered.

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Their survival status - critical.

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The Suffolk Punch Trust in Woodbridge is trying to safeguard

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the future of this unique animal.

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And the chairman Philip Davies has invited me to see

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some of the work they do with the horses.

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What makes this breed, the Suffolk Punch,

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a standout from other heavy horses?

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-Why are they so different?

-This extraordinary history.

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They have been bred on this farm for 250 years. That's quite exceptional.

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The other thing is, in East Anglia they really fit into the countryside

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because so many people had fathers or grandfathers who worked with them.

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So it's really rather more than a horse in this area.

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It is an icon of this countryside, really.

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Yeah. That's quite unique, isn't it,

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having an unbroken chain for 200 years?

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-It's completely unique.

-Nothing compares to it, does it?

-No.

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As well as being used for farm duties,

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the breed were also used for laying roads.

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And pulled non-motorised commercial vans and buses.

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Some examples of which the Trust have rescued for posterity.

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However, there is one missing today.

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-Tracey, thanks for the lift.

-No problem.

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Tell me a little bit about the work you do with the horses on the farm.

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The work that we do ranges from the traditional farm work...

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..right through to doing cart rides, cos we have the public in.

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-How many are there on the farm?

-We have 15 at the moment. 15 Suffolks.

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We are expecting, hopefully, fingers crossed,

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another four to arrive with us.

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It's nice making a connection with them

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-when they are foals, watching them grow up, isn't it?

-Oh, yes.

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-Then starting to school them.

-Personally, you can't beat it.

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You can really, really see them change, develop their characters.

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Not one horse is the same.

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Generally they have great natures. They are gentle giants, aren't they?

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-Well, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree.

-Are you?

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You've got the odd bad one, have you?

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It really does come down to the amount of input that goes in

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when they are young.

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They need to be used to you, they need to be used to being handled,

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which is how you can work with these horses

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as quietly and as calmly as we are

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-without getting hurt.

-Yeah.

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-They are too big.

-Yes, they are.

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THEY LAUGH

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Suffolks are actually one of the oldest breeds

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of carthorse in the world. With the longest written pedigree.

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And by the time of the First World War, the Suffolk Punch was

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one of the most popular work horses in East Anglia.

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All Suffolk foals were registered in stud books.

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Such as this one from 1880.

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Creating a stud book is a practice that continues to this day.

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This is quite interesting.

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There are quite a few volumes here of stud books for different years.

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Look at this. A nice, weighty book. Plenty of horses. That's 1940.

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But look at the difference to 1960. Look.

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There's nothing there, virtually. From the Second World War,

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the numbers of Suffolk Punches spiralled into decline.

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And it was because of this. During the 1950s and 1960s,

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almost all of the Suffolk Punches were replaced by the tractor,

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and in particular, its hydraulic lifting gear.

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You see, with horses, when you finished ploughing the field,

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you had to pull the plough back to the farmhouse.

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If you went over country tracks and rough terrain, you had to

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manually lift the plough, put it on the cart and pull it.

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With a tractor, you just raise the lifting gear.

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And off you trundle. It is hassle-free.

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Or I should say, harness-free.

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So it raises the question,

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what does the future hold for the Suffolk Punch?

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Tracey, I can see you are putting a plait in the horse's tail.

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-Are you getting ready for a show?

-Yes. Yes, I am indeed.

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Now that their farming days are predominantly behind most

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of the Suffolk Punches, what is their main use today?

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Believe it or not,

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there's an awful lot of people who have now got into forestry work.

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-Yeah.

-Where they are using the horses...

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-To get into areas where you can't get a tractor.

-Exactly.

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They are obviously much, much kinder on the actual ground

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than what a tractor would be.

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Not only that, the other thing that has actually proven to be

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quite popular is that they are becoming ridden horses.

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There is no reason you can't ride these horses.

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You just need to take into consideration their build

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and what they are able to do.

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They are designed to be the weightlifters

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as opposed to the athletes.

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-That's the way, really, you should think about it, isn't it?

-Yes. Yes.

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-Look, good luck with that.

-Thanks very much.

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I can see that's going to take a good, what, half an hour.

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Yes, well, I'll be here for a little while longer

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cos I've messed it up because I kept looking at you. THEY LAUGH

0:25:470:25:51

-I'll let you get on with it. Thanks for a lovely morning out.

-Thank you.

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Thanks very much indeed.

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The Suffolk Punch is an important part of this country's heritage.

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And it's marvellous to see the love the local people have

0:26:050:26:08

for these gentle giants.

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And I'm sure, left in their capable hands, there is going to

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be a bright future for the Suffolk Punch.

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Welcome back to our valuation day, here at Ickworth House.

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As you can see,

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hundreds of people are still waiting here for a valuation.

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Let's now catch up with our experts

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and see what else we can find to take off to auction.

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Will Axon has headed back inside the rotunda to find

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a fitting setting for his next item.

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Angela, here we are in the wonderful dining room at Ickworth House.

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Surrounded by these large artworks hanging on the wall.

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Let's just scale it down a little bit to what you've brought in

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to show us today.

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You've brought in two, I think, charming 19th-century pictures.

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Very different but equally charming.

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Tell me what you know about each picture.

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Well, they've been in the family for many, many years.

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-I just remember growing up with them.

-Yes?

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Now I find that they don't fit in with the present modern-day

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accommodation I have.

0:27:180:27:20

-Right?

-I think it's time to pass them on.

0:27:200:27:23

They are just the sort of slightly quirky, genuine pieces that I like.

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So let's start up at the top here.

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We've got this charming little 19th-century silk work picture.

0:27:310:27:34

Originally, when I first saw it, I thought

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it was a little pen work on the silk.

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-But I looked closer and it's all hand-stitched, isn't it?

-Yes.

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We've got the old rural family group there with the dog,

0:27:420:27:45

making their way perhaps to market

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or perhaps on the way back.

0:27:470:27:49

Slightly sort of romanticised early 19th-century image.

0:27:490:27:52

Underneath we've got this very sort of bacchanalian scene of cherubs

0:27:520:27:58

and fawns getting drunk and cavorting in the garden.

0:27:580:28:03

I noticed in the corner there...

0:28:030:28:05

-Here's a rotunda!

-You've got your own little rotunda.

0:28:050:28:07

Wonderful that that echoes everything about the building

0:28:070:28:11

that really stands out and makes it special.

0:28:110:28:14

They are just good, genuine items.

0:28:140:28:16

To be honest with you, the sort of thing that

0:28:160:28:18

I would perhaps put my hand up at an auction for.

0:28:180:28:21

-They are not worth a fortune.

-No.

-But I like them.

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I think they are sweet.

0:28:230:28:25

I would say maybe the little needlework is worth £20 or

0:28:250:28:29

-something like that.

-Right.

-Probably £30 for the little plaster cast.

0:28:290:28:35

-Right.

-I would like to think that for the two

0:28:350:28:37

we should be looking anywhere in the region of £50-£80.

0:28:370:28:40

Right.

0:28:400:28:42

-Well, I'm revamping my patio.

-Ooh!

-So I need every penny.

-Yes.

0:28:420:28:48

-So anything I get from the sale...

-Yes, will go towards that.

0:28:480:28:52

-Absolutely.

-We are agreed at £50-£80. Let's reserve them at 50.

0:28:520:28:56

-With a bit of discretion.

-Yes.

0:28:560:28:58

-Rather than not sell them for the sake of a bid.

-Sure.

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And hopefully we'll be able to put a few pots

0:29:010:29:05

-and plants towards your patio fund.

-Yes, that would be very good.

0:29:050:29:11

Back in the West Wing, the crowds are still streaming in

0:29:120:29:15

and our off-screen experts are busy valuing all manner of items.

0:29:150:29:19

Look at that, it wouldn't be 'Flog It!'

0:29:210:29:23

without a Pelham puppet, would it?

0:29:230:29:24

-What's your name?

-Lindsay.

-How long have you had the puppet?

0:29:240:29:27

-Probably all my life.

-Have you?

0:29:270:29:29

Probably since I was about five or six.

0:29:290:29:31

-Did you give him a name?

-I don't think so, no.

0:29:310:29:34

-I can't remember when I was that age.

-He's great, isn't he?

0:29:340:29:36

-He is fantastic.

-He's in very good condition, actually.

0:29:360:29:39

-It is, isn't it?

-Yeah, it looks to be an early 1960s one.

0:29:390:29:43

It was Bob Pelham who started making puppets in 1947.

0:29:430:29:48

All the early puppets were made from recycled materials often

0:29:490:29:52

found in scrapyards.

0:29:520:29:54

From their factory in Marlborough, in Wiltshire, they produced more

0:29:540:29:57

than nine million puppets over a period of nearly 40 years.

0:29:570:30:01

And today, Pelham puppets have become very collectable.

0:30:010:30:05

I think that fella is great. I really do. Have you got the box?

0:30:080:30:11

I don't know, I may have. I can't find the box. It could be at home.

0:30:110:30:16

-The box is worth 30% of the value of this puppet...

-Is it?

0:30:160:30:19

..if it's in good condition.

0:30:190:30:20

Value wise, with the box in good condition,

0:30:200:30:23

this fella is worth about £150-£160.

0:30:230:30:25

-Thank you.

-Because he is in great nick.

0:30:250:30:28

Thank you.

0:30:280:30:29

I'm sure Lindsay will have a good search

0:30:290:30:32

when she gets home for that all-important box.

0:30:320:30:34

Adam is sat with another 'Flog It!' expert.

0:30:360:30:39

-Jan, I believe this isn't your first time on the programme.

-It isn't, no.

0:30:400:30:44

You've come back for more,

0:30:440:30:45

so the first experience must have been all right.

0:30:450:30:48

-It was fine.

-Was it? How long ago was it?

-At least ten years.

-Was it?!

0:30:480:30:52

Actually, it was back in 2002, Jan.

0:30:520:30:54

I'm selling at £275.

0:30:550:30:58

-Superb. Hat-trick. What a hat-trick.

-Great.

-That's brilliant.

0:30:580:31:03

'Gosh, that takes me back.'

0:31:030:31:06

We are back in the area and you thought you'd give it another go.

0:31:060:31:08

I certainly do, yes.

0:31:080:31:09

So you've brought along this lovely glass vase.

0:31:090:31:12

-LAUGHING: Whatever you say.

-You don't like it?

-I don't like it.

0:31:120:31:16

Why don't you like it, what's wrong with it?

0:31:160:31:18

-Em, I don't know. It's a bit garish, isn't it?

-A bit garish?

0:31:180:31:22

-It's nothing that I would put out on show.

-No.

0:31:220:31:25

How did you come to own it?

0:31:250:31:27

I think it belonged to my husband's great-great-aunt.

0:31:270:31:32

-It ended up with you, did it?

-I don't think anybody else wanted it.

0:31:320:31:35

-It's lovely quality. It's Bohemian glass.

-Oh, right!

0:31:350:31:39

-Which is now the Czech Republic area.

-Right.

0:31:390:31:42

But we will refer to it as Bohemian glass.

0:31:420:31:44

-It's end of the 19th century. So over 100 years old.

-Right.

0:31:440:31:48

-And super quality.

-Amazing.

-Overlaid to get that effect you see.

0:31:480:31:53

That milky effect on the top.

0:31:530:31:56

And with these gilded, decorated panels.

0:31:560:32:00

But it's super quality. It's a really nice thing.

0:32:000:32:02

-But there is no marking on it.

-There is no marking on it.

0:32:020:32:05

But in our terms, it doesn't need a mark cos it's written all over it.

0:32:050:32:09

-Is it growing on you yet?

-More.

0:32:090:32:11

THEY LAUGH

0:32:110:32:13

-Clearly, you're on the table here, it must be worth something.

-Hmm.

0:32:130:32:17

I'd have thought £100-£150.

0:32:170:32:19

-Right.

-Which is presumably a bit more than you thought.

-I've got no idea.

0:32:190:32:23

-I had no idea.

-Do you want a reserve on it or...?

-No.

-No?

0:32:230:32:26

Great! I like that. You are definitely going to flog it then.

0:32:260:32:29

-Yeah, OK.

-It'll definitely make 80 whatever happens.

0:32:290:32:33

And it could go on and make a bit more than 150,

0:32:330:32:36

-but I reckon we are about right with the estimate.

-OK, that's fine.

0:32:360:32:39

That's great, thanks for coming. What would you do with the money?

0:32:390:32:42

-Give it to my grandchildren.

-How many have you got?

-Five.

0:32:420:32:45

Right, so split it between them. They can do what they want with it.

0:32:450:32:49

-Yep.

-Very good.

0:32:490:32:50

Maybe Jan's grandchildren could start their own collection

0:32:500:32:53

with the money, a pastime that was popular with

0:32:530:32:55

certain members of the Hervey family,

0:32:550:32:58

as I discovered inside the splendour of the rotunda.

0:32:580:33:01

Earlier on, we found out about the Suffolk Punch horses.

0:33:030:33:07

But it's a different type of animal I want to show you right now.

0:33:070:33:10

And it's right here in the library.

0:33:100:33:12

A collection of articulated silver fish.

0:33:120:33:15

Amassed by Geraldine, the wife of the 3rd Marques.

0:33:150:33:19

This is just a small part of it, believe me, there are hundreds.

0:33:190:33:23

These wonderful little scent bottles,

0:33:230:33:25

or vinaigrettes as they are known,

0:33:250:33:27

contained an aromatic liquid used by women of the upper echelons

0:33:270:33:31

throughout the late 1700s, right through the 1800s,

0:33:310:33:34

as a way of repelling the smells of human waste, which you would

0:33:340:33:38

find quite frequently in the streets of the cities.

0:33:380:33:41

Not to be mixed up with perfume bottles

0:33:410:33:44

by calling them scent bottles.

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It wasn't to open up and dab on your neck, this was literally just

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to smell, to take away the horrendous smells of the streets.

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Or to dab on your clothing to neutralise the spots of waste

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that flicked up from the horse and carts on rainy days.

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Now, as you can imagine, the craftsmanship is superb.

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The best silversmiths of their day showing off their talents.

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Things like this became very, very collectable.

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All hallmarked,

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all assayed in different assay offices around the country.

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And they've all got their maker's initials, because the craftsmen

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that made these were proud to stamp their initials on them.

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And if you've got one of these at home, we'd love to see it.

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Why not bring it along and get it valued?

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Now, over in the Italianate gardens is another example

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of fabulous craftsmanship.

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Just looking at this box when I spotted it in the queue,

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it smacks of quality, doesn't it?

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And here we are in front of Ickworth House,

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and you can just imagine the 3rd Marques, in the 1870s when this

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was produced, going through his correspondence and paperwork.

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Tell me, how have you come by this?

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Is this something that's come to you through the family?

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It's my son, actually.

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As a sideline, he likes to buy little old wooden boxes to refurb

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and sell on cos him and his girlfriend are trying to get

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a deposit together for a house.

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-Which, as we all know, is quite a task.

-It is.

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-That's a lot of boxes he is going to have to refurbish.

-Definitely.

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He saw it and took a bit of a gamble on it and paid far too much, I think,

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and his girlfriend wasn't very pleased.

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So when they heard you were coming here today,

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she asked me if I would bring it on his behalf.

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-And see if we can get his money back?

-Exactly. Yeah.

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Let's open her up and have a look inside.

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What first strikes me is the condition.

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I mean, it's almost as good as the day it was produced, isn't it?

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We've got marks here - Patent ABC - despatch box.

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And we've got a wonderful mark here from the retailer.

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We've got Jenner & Knewstub. They were "to the queen."

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So you are talking really top-end retailers.

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We've got various loops here to perhaps hold pens, rules and so on.

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Nibs.

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If we open this up, this flap folds down nicely.

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We've got a little aid memoir here for taking notes,

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as well as a little blotter here for writing letters and so on.

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It's been well used.

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-Look, it's probably authentic to the box itself, isn't it?

-Fabulous.

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And a nice touch here. Look at that.

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The quality of that sliding across.

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And then you've got these rather nicely...with gilt tooling,

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index cards.

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Either for correspondence or invoices, that sort of thing.

0:36:200:36:24

Your son obviously took a shine to it. How much did he pay for it?

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-£200.

-OK, well, I think he has paid fair money for it.

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Because that is the kind of level I see it at.

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-I see it at about £200-£300.

-Oh, wow!

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We will fix the reserve at £200.

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Elizabeth is obviously going to take her commission

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so it might end up with him making a small loss.

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But all we need is two people on the day to really fall in love with it.

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And who knows, it could make top estimate.

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In which case, he is quids in and he can go back

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to his girlfriend and wave the 20s in her face,

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and spend the money himself.

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That's it. As you've just seen, our experts have now made their final

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choice of items to go off to the auction,

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which means it's time to say goodbye to Ickworth House,

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our wonderful valuation day venue.

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We've been surrounded by heritage and history.

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It's been marvellous to be here. Have you enjoyed yourselves?

0:37:180:37:21

-ALL: Yes!

-Yes, and we've all learned so much as well.

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And that's what it's all about.

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But right now it's time to say goodbye,

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as we head over to the auction room in Diss.

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And here is what we are taking with us.

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I'm sure there will be interest in the saleroom

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for the 19th-century silk work and those cavorting cherubs.

0:37:350:37:39

It isn't to Jan's taste,

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but this glass trumpet vase is superb quality.

0:37:420:37:45

And campaign writing boxes originally travelled abroad

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with their serving officers.

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Let's see how much mileage this one has at the auction room.

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Welcome back to Diss, where auctioneer Elizabeth Talbot

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is conducting the bids from the front of the house.

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Going under the hammer right now, we've got a 19th-century mixed lot.

0:38:050:38:08

A wonderful little silk work and a plaster cast belonging to Angela,

0:38:080:38:12

who's just joined me right now in a packed saleroom.

0:38:120:38:15

Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

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Hopefully, we'll get around £80, top end. Fingers crossed, here we go.

0:38:170:38:20

The late 19th-century framed plaster plaque.

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And the associated embroidered silk landscape.

0:38:240:38:26

There we go, that's pretty pieces there.

0:38:260:38:29

Starting at 50.

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£50 surely. Come on!

0:38:320:38:34

Nice romantic collectables there. 30, I'll take.

0:38:340:38:37

Come on, where are you at £30? 30. 32.

0:38:380:38:41

35. 38. 40 gallery.

0:38:420:38:45

42. 45. 48. 50.

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50. Now where we started at 50. I'm looking for five.

0:38:480:38:51

55 is gallery. 60. Five. 70. Five.

0:38:530:38:58

75 is now centre gallery. At 75, looking for 80.

0:38:580:39:02

Are you all done at 75?

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Yes, the hammer has gone down!

0:39:060:39:08

-That's a good price. Well done.

-Happy with that.

-Brilliant.

0:39:080:39:11

-That's a very good price.

-Very good estimate there!

0:39:110:39:13

-We get it right sometimes.

-Anyway, that was good. That was successful.

0:39:130:39:18

-Yes.

-Happy with that?

-Very happy. Yes.

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That will certainly help towards Angela's patio fund.

0:39:200:39:25

From the back garden to Central Europe with Jan's Bohemian glass.

0:39:270:39:31

-I don't like it.

-I was just about to say that.

0:39:330:39:35

-There is a clue there, isn't there?

-It's an acquired taste.

-No reserve.

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-If someone doesn't like it and they want to

-flog it... No reserve.

0:39:380:39:42

-Don't hold back.

-If suddenly you find out it is worth a couple of hundred pounds,

0:39:420:39:45

why would you want a reserve? You want to flog it. Get it sold.

0:39:450:39:48

-Yes.

-Absolutely.

-I really admire that.

-Do you?

-Yeah.

-Good.

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The late 19th, early 20th-century Bohemian glass trumpet vase.

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Beautiful gilt decoration for this.

0:39:570:39:59

See, she likes it.

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Elegant vase. Interest on the sheet shown here.

0:40:010:40:04

I'll start at £55. Bids are in at 55.

0:40:040:40:07

60. Five. 70. Five. 80 in the room. I'm out.

0:40:080:40:13

-Come on, come on. A few more bids.

-£80.

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At £80, back left, any advance on £80?

0:40:210:40:23

Jan, it's gone. It's gone at the lower end.

0:40:270:40:30

A bit disappointing, but nevertheless, you didn't like it.

0:40:300:40:33

Let somebody else enjoy it.

0:40:330:40:35

The danger was that if it struggled and you took it home,

0:40:350:40:38

-it'd probably end up getting damaged or smashed, wouldn't it?

-Probably.

0:40:380:40:42

And as we know, Bohemian glass isn't to everybody's taste.

0:40:440:40:48

However, I'm sure our last lot of the day will be something to

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write home about.

0:40:510:40:53

Well, all the fun of the auction!

0:40:540:40:56

Right now we are ready to do battle with our campaign writing box

0:40:560:40:59

belonging to Mandy, who's with me right now.

0:40:590:41:01

-It's your son's really, isn't it? He collects.

-Yes.

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We know the story, of course,

0:41:030:41:05

that he's in trouble with the missus for spending £200.

0:41:050:41:07

-So fingers crossed we'll get his money back.

-Here we go.

0:41:070:41:10

-There's enough people here.

-Let's get the young lad out of trouble.

0:41:100:41:13

THEY LAUGH

0:41:130:41:14

The late Victorian Jenner & Knewstub campaign writing box.

0:41:150:41:19

This is lovely.

0:41:190:41:21

I'll start at a very low £75...

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Gosh, that's low, isn't it?

0:41:240:41:26

£75 is bid. At 75. Now I'm looking for 80.

0:41:260:41:29

80 bid. 85. 90. Five. 100.

0:41:290:41:33

110. 120. 130.

0:41:330:41:35

140. 150. 160.

0:41:350:41:38

170. 180. 190.

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-200.

-He's out of trouble.

-And I'm out.

0:41:400:41:43

It's now £200 in the room. I'll take the ten.

0:41:430:41:46

-£200 I have. Is the phone coming in?

-210.

-210 is bid.

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220. 230. 240.

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250. 260.

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He's either got phone or the internet.

0:41:550:41:57

270. 280.

0:41:570:41:59

290. 300. I'll take 20.

0:42:000:42:03

320. 340.

0:42:030:42:05

-What's his name?

-Damon.

-Damon.

0:42:050:42:08

360. 400. 420.

0:42:080:42:10

-Here we go.

-My goodness me!

0:42:100:42:12

-He's going to be so pleased. She's going to be so pleased.

-Good.

0:42:120:42:15

Any advance on £420?

0:42:150:42:17

Yep!

0:42:170:42:18

-Oh, made me jump!

-LAUGHTER

0:42:180:42:21

440?

0:42:210:42:22

460.

0:42:220:42:24

In the room at 460. Any advance on £460?

0:42:240:42:28

Yep!

0:42:280:42:30

LAUGHTER

0:42:300:42:32

He's just wanting to steal the show, isn't he?

0:42:320:42:35

-Is that 70 or 80?

-470.

-470. 480.

0:42:350:42:38

-Round it up again.

-No.

0:42:390:42:41

480 in the room. I don't believe him.

0:42:410:42:43

LAUGHTER

0:42:430:42:44

480 standing in the front very patiently. At 480.

0:42:440:42:47

Any advance on £480?

0:42:470:42:50

£480. We turned up for battle and we won the fight.

0:42:500:42:53

-Damon, you've got talent, mate. He's got some talent, hasn't he?

-Yes!

0:42:540:42:58

Oh, my goodness!

0:42:580:42:59

He's going to be so pleased. She's going to be so pleased.

0:42:590:43:02

-Thank you.

-That's great.

0:43:020:43:04

I suggest he puts the money towards buying more little boxes to do up.

0:43:040:43:08

You can tell her that. THEY LAUGH

0:43:080:43:11

I hope you're watching

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and I hope you've enjoyed the show because certainly we've

0:43:120:43:15

come to the end of our day here in the auction room in Diss.

0:43:150:43:17

And what a wonderful way to end. Everybody is happy. We are happy.

0:43:170:43:20

Join us next time for many more surprises.

0:43:200:43:22

But until then, from Diss, it's goodbye.

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